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May 11, 2018
Open Thread 2018-23
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jackrabbit.. was that the false flag you were looking for? Posted by: james | May 11 2018 17:43 utc | 1 B, wake up and smell the coffee. You are behind the curve. Comment sections at South Front and Sputnik are revolting. Even major russian bloggers are becoming embarrassed by Russia. Posted by: Passer by | May 11 2018 18:06 utc | 2 Korybko interprets Russian signals as message to Assad to “compromise,” which I don’t agree with at all as such a “demand” backwalks numerous previous statements about Syria by Russia, which isn’t normal Kremlin behavior. In essence, Korybko’s arguing that the relationship between Zionists and Russia is more important than Russia’s relations with Syria, Iraq, and Iran–a huge misread on his part, IMO. Posted by: karlof1 | May 11 2018 18:33 utc | 3 Where are the Scripals? How are they feeling these days? (68 days and counting) Posted by: Babyl-on | May 11 2018 18:38 utc | 4 Russia has tried to stay out of the conflict between Israel and Iran/Hezbollah and i suspect Russia has sought to keep a peace of a sort between those parties. That is wise. Posted by: alaric | May 11 2018 18:47 utc | 5 Disgusting, Posted by: Anon | May 11 2018 18:51 utc | 6 @passer by: Do us all a favour and PASS BY. If you don’t like what you see here at MoA, move on. b does a very good job finding info that seldom appears elsewhere, even in the more mainstream Russian outlets. Posted by: A P | May 11 2018 18:52 utc | 7 Too many cast Putin as Tsar; he is not. National security issues are discussed and solved by a council of same name through consensus. Same with Foreign Relations. One aspect of Russia that differs greatly from almost every Western nation is the Russian government acts in the best interest of all Russians, not just a select nomenclatura as in Outlaw US Empire and UK. Posted by: karlof1 | May 11 2018 19:09 utc | 8 Meanwhile, the SAA continues to clean out takfiri pockets with unprecedented speed, probably the real reason for the latest round of Israeli provocations. Sure, we’d all love to see Israel get what’s coming to them but as long as the facts on the ground keep trending in Syria’s favour, Russia isn’t going to up the ante. The Zio-FUKUS attacks are a display of weakness, not strength. Posted by: Peter Gose | May 11 2018 19:21 utc | 9 Corbett points out Netanyahu’s hypocrisy of being a nuclear parts smuggler while point to OLD information about Iran’s nuke program. Posted by: Curtis | May 11 2018 19:27 utc | 10 Passer 2:06:21 PM | 2 Posted by: Pnyx | May 11 2018 19:30 utc | 11 There has been a lot of commentry in the last few days on Putin being under the control of or in partnership with Netanyahu. To the contrary, it is more likely Netanyahu traveled to Moscow to sell his butt. This may be the main reason Russia announced it would reconsider selling S-300 to Israel. Nutty would have payed dearly to have Russia say it was no longer considering sending S-300 to Syria and Russia still hold that card. Putin let nutty blow off wind and save face as that has always been his way. Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 11 2018 19:35 utc | 12 If russia were to render the Israeli Air Force largely ineffectual by imposing an air exclusion zone over Syria, what would the Israeli leadership be most likely to do in their blind panic?? Posted by: APOL | May 11 2018 19:37 utc | 13 My post @11 should have read “Russia announced it would reconsider selling S-300 to Syria” Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 11 2018 19:43 utc | 14 Strategic Culture’s published a very powerful editorial. Teaser: Posted by: karlof1 | May 11 2018 19:46 utc | 15 IMO Netanyahu hoped that his presence in Moscow would give IDF the advantage of surprise in their attacks. Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 11 2018 19:52 utc | 16 Gaza Suicide Crisis Posted by: John Gilberts | May 11 2018 19:52 utc | 17 APOL @12– Posted by: karlof1 | May 11 2018 19:53 utc | 18 I personally believe that Putin gave Iran/Syria a green light to respond to Israel. Posted by: Alaric | May 11 2018 19:55 utc | 19 Russia’s catching a lot of blogger-flak regarding its failure to go to war with Israel. That’s not smart. Posted by: Don Bacon | May 11 2018 20:02 utc | 20 Jackrabbit @15– Posted by: karlof1 | May 11 2018 20:04 utc | 21 Defense became offense via preemptive strikes. The aggressor is not defending itself. By its nature, it is firstly the aggressor. Its strikes are offensive. Posted by: fastfreddy | May 11 2018 20:07 utc | 22 Interesting comparison of Gina Haspel’s Senate testimony and Adolf Eichmann’s at his trial. Not surprisingly, Haspel apes Eichmann. Posted by: karlof1 | May 11 2018 20:18 utc | 24 Don Bacon Posted by: Anon | May 11 2018 20:20 utc | 25 @3 karlof1 Posted by: Grieved | May 11 2018 20:29 utc | 26 @ 2 Wow, thought I was back in school for a minute… Posted by: Lochearn | May 11 2018 20:32 utc | 27 Reuters is reporting that Russia has backed off supplying S-300s to Syria. Posted by: Trisha Driscoll | May 11 2018 20:33 utc | 28 Putin speaking about the wailing wall and Jerusalem. Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 11 2018 20:57 utc | 29 @ 25 Grieved Posted by: Lochearn | May 11 2018 20:59 utc | 30 @ Grieved who wrote: “Miracles abound. But everyone is so damn gloomy. Is it a new CIA manic-depression drug? Radio waves? Crazy.” Posted by: psychohistorian | May 11 2018 21:11 utc | 31 @ 27
Unlike the West, RF does not pre-announce. Just do it! Posted by: Likklemore | May 11 2018 21:20 utc | 32 psychohistorian “The good thing about this situation is that we are in it because the old way is breaking down all around us” Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 11 2018 21:21 utc | 33 Also not a good sign that President Putin re-nominated Medvedev (not the URL) as Prime Minister. The Saker lays out the rationale for this view. Posted by: Trisha Driscoll | May 11 2018 21:22 utc | 34 Why antagonize Israel needlessly? Why risk WWIII? Why risk Russia’s World Cup – when sabotage and stealth are what the Israelis are best at? Posted by: Activist Potato | May 11 2018 21:25 utc | 35 34 Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 11 2018 21:26 utc | 36 Saker is brilliant on military matters, but he has not studied politics or finance in depth. Posted by: Lochearn | May 11 2018 21:33 utc | 37 Some people forget that jewish oligarchs control large parts of the russian economy and have people in the Russian Central Bank (Yudaeva). Posted by: T | May 11 2018 21:46 utc | 38 @Posted by: Grieved | May 11, 2018 4:29:09 PM | 25 Posted by: From the resistance | May 11 2018 21:48 utc | 39 Likklemore @32– Posted by: karlof1 | May 11 2018 21:52 utc | 40 Speaking of a watershed event in the world of finance, continuation and extension of the US sanctions on Iran is not popular in other countries, which may spark changes to the world financial system now US dominated.
Bloomberg
And here’s a lengthy 2007 study which examines countermeasures and other responses by foreign jurisdictions to U.S. extraterritorial economic sanctions imposed for foreign policy reasons.They include the Cuba embargo. Posted by: Don Bacon | May 11 2018 21:53 utc | 41 Such a massive organized aggression has been inflicted on Syria, so much effort has been put into sujugating and destroying Syria, the Syrians have suffered so horribly. Years of economic warfare – sanctions, tens of thousands of mercenary madmen from dozens of countries deployed against Syria, entire cities destroyed, massive amounts of arms and financing provided to the madmen, global mass media disinformation deployed, oil stolen, thousands of US bombs dropped, continual Israeli attacks and subterfuge, NATO special forces deployed, massive mercenary underground construction project at Douma, false flags, Turkish aggression, Saudi complicity, and more. Posted by: Robert Snefjella | May 11 2018 21:54 utc | 42 We recently talked about “glide bombs” used in Syria, here’s a powerful new small one that will be bought by the US in the thousands for “immediate combat needs.” These fit in the category of “stand-off” weapons that don’t need the immediate presence of a jet fighter to deliver them, they can be delivered by any type aircraft at distance, twenty miles in this case. Posted by: Don Bacon | May 11 2018 22:11 utc | 44 Robert Snefjella @43– Posted by: karlof1 | May 11 2018 22:20 utc | 45 @ babyl-on #4: Posted by: wendy davis | May 11 2018 22:26 utc | 46 Don Bacon 46 Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 11 2018 22:26 utc | 47 @46 Modern warfare is constantly evolving. Syrians/Iranians are currently busy turning out dozens of dummy missile batteries. Must be plenty of old trucks and bits of metal pipe laying around. Posted by: dh | May 11 2018 22:29 utc | 48 Karlof1 @ 41 Posted by: Likklemore | May 11 2018 22:32 utc | 49 Don Bacon @46– Posted by: karlof1 | May 11 2018 22:35 utc | 50 @ Peter AU 1 Posted by: Don Bacon | May 11 2018 22:35 utc | 51 karlof1 @20 Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 11 2018 22:38 utc | 52 Perhaps the Syrians are onto this: How to visit the Golan Heights from Tourist Israel. Posted by: Don Bacon | May 11 2018 22:40 utc | 53 Yes, separation of countries from the US has to be a major Russia goal, and Moscow has jumped major hurdles to do it with China and Turkey, for two examples. More to come. Germany, eventually? Posted by: Don Bacon | May 11 2018 22:49 utc | 54 Robert Snefjella @ 43: Posted by: Jen | May 11 2018 22:51 utc | 55 ZipperSnipper @ 45: Looks like our “Venezuelan” friend “Matt” indeed at 207 and 208 in the last comments forum. That’s enough to get him banned from MoA. Posted by: Jen | May 11 2018 22:58 utc | 56 “Medvedev is an Atlanticist”. Could someone please explain to me how this has shown up by what he has actually done or not done. He is a political leader and so he has to modify his public policy position on matters to maintain the support of his party. “…..Putin and Bashar al Assad have distinguished themselves as steadfast leaders during this time…..Syrian refugees have already returned to Syria to participate in the nation’s reconstruction “ Posted by: OJS | May 11 2018 23:07 utc | 58 As I have mentioned before, the seeds of Zionism were planted in Russia with the Bolshevick Revolution. From Hess/Marx/Engdahl to financiers in Germany, Britain and the United States Zionism prospered. It had great support from non Jewish elements as well as Europe lacked oil which was becoming a necessary fuel for War. Balfour Declaration issued to Lord Rothschild was agreed to months in advance of its release and led German financiers on Wall Street to join forces with British controlled financiers like JP Morgan to pressure Wilson to enter the war and ensure Germany would be defeated. Stalin was anti religion but not all Zionists were religious. Soviet Union sent many of the Torah following Jews to Israel and US, as well as the criminal elements who went on to create the Jewish Mafia, some of whom who are very influentional in US and Israel and now work with the mafia in the FSU and Russia (some of whom are oligarchs) where they also have influence Posted by: Pft | May 11 2018 23:18 utc | 60 @ 42 — More on sanctions avoidance — (fascinating subject)
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Posted by: Don Bacon | May 11 2018 23:18 utc | 61 I don’t give shits to any gods, Dr. Assad, Putin, Bibi, Trump, Erdogan or any players in Syria. My concerns is the helpless Syrians, Palestinians and elsewhere unable to help themselves. Posted by: OJS | May 11 2018 23:18 utc | 62 OJS Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 11 2018 23:53 utc | 63 Jackrabbit @54– Posted by: karlof1 | May 12 2018 0:01 utc | 64 Palloy @59– Posted by: karlof1 | May 12 2018 0:12 utc | 65 Don Bacon @63– Posted by: karlof1 | May 12 2018 0:20 utc | 66 I’m not running around SPOUTING hatred, but at this instance Russia Federation is the only force able to stops the endless killing. If Putin walked away or did not stop Bibi NOW this endless killing continue. Posted by: OJS | May 12 2018 0:26 utc | 68 Don Bacon @ 42 Posted by: VietnamVet | May 12 2018 0:40 utc | 69 With regard to Medvedev. Let’s just end this now. Posted by: Grieved | May 12 2018 0:50 utc | 70 Finally, a brief look at the Iraqi election, stressing its issue-oriented nature versus previous sectarian/ethnic divide, or so we’re told. Trying to find more in English, but that’s a rare bird. Even AngryArab’s silent about it, which I find odd. Posted by: karlof1 | May 12 2018 0:51 utc | 71 Putin has done more to stop, blunt or block US military aggression than any other country. Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 12 2018 1:02 utc | 73 Greece’s Ekathimerini interview with Assad. Posted by: daffyDuct | May 12 2018 1:37 utc | 74 I don’t understand why people think Russia is supposed to fight against all the FUKUSIS countries and their allies all alone? You cannot be serious. Criticizing Russia is OK, but not considering this fact is not OK. Where are the Chinese? India? Brazil and other big nations? Where are they? Are they all letting Russia step in the open fire. Nope that will not happen. Posted by: Б | May 12 2018 1:59 utc | 75 Hi All – I posted this in Saker’s comments and thought it fit the discourse here as well: Posted by: Citizen621 | May 12 2018 2:00 utc | 76 These nonstop attacks on Russia and Putin are completely unfounded and terribly unfair. Russia has to act with its own interests first aforethought, as must every country. Russia must act with the resources it has available and in the knowledge that they have to deal with the problems in Ukraine, North Korea, NATO troops in the Baltics, etc. and not just Syria. Posted by: Lysander | May 12 2018 2:14 utc | 77 Grieved 73 Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 12 2018 2:15 utc | 78 Remember this? All 17 U.S. intelligence agencies have agreed that Russia tried to influence the 2016 election to benefit Donald Trump.
Posted by: Don Bacon | May 12 2018 2:22 utc | 79 @ Pft 62 Posted by: ninel | May 12 2018 2:22 utc | 80 EU mission on rule of law in Kosovo will assume advisory role in June – PM
Eulex was not of any use there except to protect criminals in Kosovo “government”. They even were complicit in actual kidnapping of Serbian government official Marko Djuric lately.
Americans are eaching for yet another conflict on European soil…they are even pushing to make an Army there… Posted by: vbo | May 12 2018 2:24 utc | 81 Posted by: karlof1 | May 12 2018 2:41 utc | 82 From a Syrian Tiger Forces Commander , who thinks the deals have already been made between the US , Russia , and Turkey , and that the final subdivision of Syria will very much resemble the current distribution of the respective country’s forces/proxies (Much as I hate to say so , I think he’ll be proven correct , in the end) : Posted by: Marko | May 12 2018 2:46 utc | 83 OJS: “Russia Federation is the only force able to stops the endless killing.” Posted by: Charles R | May 12 2018 3:14 utc | 84 @86 Charles R, Posted by: Jonathan | May 12 2018 3:34 utc | 85 Russia has acted ingeniously to reduce the killing in Syria with its creative idea to offer anti-Syria forces a choice: Turn over your weapons and get on the bus to Idlib, or be killed. And mostly they got on the bus. Contrast that with the US method of destroying a city and everyone in it by aerial bombing. Posted by: Don Bacon | May 12 2018 3:41 utc | 86 @85 Marko. Yes, I’ve read that and am perplexed as this comes (apparently) from a Tiger Force commander. Could be only one man’s disapointment with his General Staff who under political pressure, are not focused only on military campaign goals.. Posted by: Lozion | May 12 2018 3:43 utc | 87 @89 lozion.. i was wondering about that myself.. Ivan Sidorenko was a Red Army officer and a Hero of the Soviet Union, who served during World War II. i am wondering why this guy has this name? my first thought was it looks like propaganda..he appears to have a presence of twitter for what that is worth but twitter seems like a pretty sketchy realm, what little i follow it.. Posted by: james | May 12 2018 3:53 utc | 88 @80 lysander.. good post.. i pretty well agree with all of it.. thanks for saying it.. Posted by: james | May 12 2018 4:00 utc | 90 @88 Exactly right. And note that this does not gel with the Western demonization of Assad as a dictator who cares nothing for the civilian carnage that is his fault, and his fault alone. Posted by: Yeah, Right | May 12 2018 4:41 utc | 91 Lozion 89 Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 12 2018 4:45 utc | 92 Jonathan, I was asking OJS. OJS is the one framing it as a duty for Putin. I promise I am too stupid to shill. 🙂 Posted by: Charles R | May 12 2018 4:55 utc | 93 Activist Potato @35; Posted by: Daniel | May 12 2018 5:04 utc | 94 @90 & 94. James, out of respect I suppose. He seems to be an “embedded” type journalist close to the TF and RU deployed troops. Been following him for awhile. Peter, yes I read it the same way.. Posted by: Lozion | May 12 2018 5:18 utc | 95 Lochearn #26. Totally agree with you. I too believe that Syria doesn’t need the S 300. Beef up the Pantsirs and Buks and some more upgraded S 200. There must be plenty of these in warehouses in Russia. S 300 being mobile are an advantage. US MIC kit isn’t what it use to be. IDF is not entering Syrian airspace except by deception flying east of the Euphrates, that says a lot. Syrian air defence forces have become a lot better thanks to Russia. Posted by: Tom | May 12 2018 5:52 utc | 97 Russia did deliver the S300 to Iran. Posted by: somebody | May 12 2018 6:17 utc | 98 somebody 100 Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 12 2018 6:36 utc | 99 Lockhearn @26. Posted by: Daniel | May 12 2018 6:38 utc | 100 |
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