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April 11, 2018

Trump Asks Russia To Roll Over - It Won't

Donald Trump may perceive these bad cop/good cop tweets as a serious way to negotiate with Russia. They ain't.

Donald J. Trump - @realDonaldTrump - 10:57 AM UTC - 11 Apr 2018
Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!
Donald J. Trump - @realDonaldTrump - 11:37 AM UTC - 11 Apr 2018
Our relationship with Russia is worse now than it has ever been, and that includes the Cold War. There is no reason for this. Russia needs us to help with their economy, something that would be very easy to do, and we need all nations to work together. Stop the arms race?

Russia said it would destroy the platforms that launch the missiles, not only the missiles themselves. Did nobody explain the difference to Trump?

There is reason that U.S. relations with Russia are now worse than they have been for some time and Russia is not responsible for these. The GW Bush administration killed the Anti-Ballistic-Missile treaty which guaranteed Mutually Assured Destruction and thus strategic stability. The Obama administration launched a trillion dollar program to ramp up U.S. nuclear capabilities and ballistic missile defense with the aim of achieving superiority in a nuclear conflict.

It is cynical to say that "Russia needs us to help with their economy". The U.S. under Trump is waging economic war on Russia by implementing more and more economic sanctions. The last round on Friday targeted Russian industrialists, many of whom are not even aligned with Putin. Aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska, disliked in the Kremlin, lost 15% of his fortune. The Rubel plummeted against the dollar for two days in a row. U.S. Treasury stooges are now traveling in Europe to press European banks to shut down all services for Russian companies.


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(Ironically both economic attack vectors will help Putin's program. Since 2014 Russia has been pressing its oligarchs to repatriate the billions the stashed in 'western' offshore banks. They will now do so out of fear of confiscations. The lower Rubel will increase local production and allow for cheaper exports.)

The U.S. incited Georgia to attack Russia. It 'regime changed' the Ukraine. It attacks Syria, an old Russian ally. Then there are the hoaxes that get attributed to Russia without any evidence. Russia did not influence the U.S. election. It did not poison the Skripals. There was no 'chemical attack' in Douma.

Russia has all kinds of reasons to be hostile to the U.S. but always stays calm and well mannered. It is stupid to mistake that for fear or inferiority. Taunting Russia like Trump now does will only increase its resistance to U.S. moves.

Is Trump trying to make an offer to really help Russia's economy and to stop the arms race?

If Russia would roll over and give up on Syria would Trump really lift the sanctions? Would he really stop the U.S. race for nuclear supremacy? Could he even promise to do such? And why would anyone believe Trump anyway?

Unlike western European countries, Russia is no led by yapping poodles. The Russian government and its people will not roll over. They have historically never done so. President Putin will start his period of governance on May 7 with a war cabinet structured and manned for conflict. He expects a long fight.

Russia will have to respond to any U.S. strike on Syria. It needs to do so to keep face and the faith of its allies. But it also needs to so in a way that avoids further escalation. Something that is very strong, in a different theater and not attributable? Or something that is openly targeting U.S. interests, but not U.S. soldiers, in the Middle East?

It is Israel which is behind the war on Syria and which is pressing for further conflict. There are one million Russians in Israel, many of whom are not even Jewish. Could Russia ask them for help to change the strategic picture? Or should it increase support for those who directly fight the Zionist state?

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It is a dire situation. On one hand the deep state is hell bent on the subjugation and colonisation of Russia, and at the same time desperate to purge its bowels of this Trump thing. Trump is doomed as he will be viciously punished if he declines to follow the instructions of Zion and Sunni fanatics in the middle east plus he is being white anted and castrated by the deep state antics perpetrated by his Attorney General, Deputy Attorney General and the Mueller inquiry.

He surely must realise that the UK government set out to back Clinton and sabotage him and that those antics have crippled his presidency. Why would he go along with their hysterics when the links between Skripal and Steele and the MI6 and the mysterious professor are so exposed?

Unless Trump instigates a vigorous prosecution of Clinton and her entire entourage and thereby appease his base and create a mighty distraction for some factions of the media to feast on he will be cursed for letting the statute of limitations set her free.

He has limited room to move (if in fact he seeks peace and detente with Russia) but should he get Mattis to come out strongly against blaming Syria with CERTAINTY then he may be able to advance a higher dialogue. To me that is possible but likely wishful thinking as I think he is captive of the Zion fanatics via his son in law and mesmerised by the lure of Sunni wealth.

Perhaps Qatar could assist with large loans to Kushner, thereby alleviating the pressure from the Saudis and mitigating the siren song of zion.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 12 2018 10:52 utc | 301

Reason prevailed for now.. Trump backed out, blinked, show himself blabbermouther of idiotisms and stupidity.

Generals told him last night that ALL attacks on Assad were cleared with Russia days or hours before attack on Assad, equipment moved people's relocated those unaware mostly civilians or base guards killed in those phony wag the dog stage theater events for consumption of all sides.

Now Russia stated she will not clear any attacks on Assad anymore and if activity detected they will irradiate with their defense systems S300/400 the launchers on the ships, if attacked they wiill be destroyed.

Generals explained to this moron that they will not attack any puny Assad bases to lose $200 mil a piece weaponry and risk sinking navy ships without attacking Russian defense systems first, hence directly attack Russia military.

They told him, prepared for hundred of coffins of US soldiers while Assad still will be still there and by that you got impeached Reps obliterated in midterm elections.

Posted by: Kalen | Apr 12 2018 10:52 utc | 302

test 299
The Atlantacists must be challenged at this juncture by China . If there is not commensurate response here the Persian , Russian and Chinese ambitions will be destroyed .
It is the difficult position for the Eurasianists ?

Posted by: ashley albanese | Apr 12 2018 10:53 utc | 303

I can't see the US bombing the site of the alleged chemical attack. This is being guarded by Russian MPs and would result in strong retaliation.

I think that what we are seeing is a stalling effort. The warmongers who want instant retaliation to hide their previous and current involvement in the Syrian war crimes are the same people in trouble at home. The Clinton/Bush, CIA, McCain/Howard Dean deep state. Mattis and the marines seem to be the main counter to this.

Posted by: financial matters | Apr 12 2018 11:03 utc | 304

Kalen /
Laserturk

Uh what? Of cours not only US will back now but France, UK have sent and making preparation for an attack too.
DOnt you understand that Trump is decieving you with this talk?

Lets be realistic, the war is coming, thinking that it will not helps no one.

Posted by: test | Apr 12 2018 11:04 utc | 305

typo, I meant of course the US/UK/France will NOT back down and there are not even any indications for that.

Posted by: test | Apr 12 2018 11:06 utc | 306

Akrotiri ..hit that Syria and Russia and oh so hard

Posted by: Devrin | Apr 12 2018 11:11 utc | 307

OPCW have announced that they confirm UK findings in Skirpel case but not source of nerve agent.

Posted by: Jim | Apr 12 2018 11:13 utc | 308

@ test

I think that it is not about alleged chemical attack, but about Iran and its presence. So I guess that deal is that iran tones down presence in Syria in an exchange for no attack to come. But of course that is just an assumption, while probably there are some other issues on the table.
To be able to bring the pressure US/UK/France move assets closer. But so far it all indicates that defusing is in progress.
Deals made, deals honoured. No war. But one never really knows for sure.
Wars start easy with a glitch or with a set of wrong orders. I doubt that Mattis and co. would let themselves into such mess.
Trump being unimportant along the way..

Posted by: laserlurk | Apr 12 2018 11:15 utc | 309

Here is someone Trump may listen to. He needs to be reminded of this analysis.


Donald Trump: Bush Admini"Everything is A Lie"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqA2Hs5dTFM&feature=youtu.be

"In 2007 in an interview with Wolf Blitzer, Donald Trump spoke about the Bush administration and the Iraq War, correctly predicting, "the day we pull out, it is going to explode." "Because they are in a civil war, whether we want to admit it or not."

"Look, everything in Washington has been a lie. Weapons of mass destruction. Was a total lie. A way of attacking Iraq, which he thought was going to be easy and it turned out it was the exact opposite."

"Everything is a lie. It is all a big lie."


Perhaps Tucker Carlson should play this video on Fox news tonight to ensure Trump sees it.

Posted by: hobo | Apr 12 2018 11:18 utc | 310

I hope that Trump tweet means the US is backing down. Once Russia had deleted a few of their launch platforms it would have been a toss up as whether the US would back off or go to mutually assured destruction.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Apr 12 2018 11:18 utc | 311

laserturk

Again nothing absolutely nothing points toward deescalation its the other way around.
Mattis is a crazy neocon, hes one of the crazies that want war the most.

Posted by: test | Apr 12 2018 11:19 utc | 312

Here we go:

Macron Claims to Have Proof of Chemical Weapons Use by Syrian Government
https://sputniknews.com/world/201804121063477090-macron-france-syria-chemical-weapons-use/


Ugly little murder Macron.

Posted by: test | Apr 12 2018 11:22 utc | 313

Jim 309
Do you have a link to the OPCW report?

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Apr 12 2018 11:26 utc | 314

Here is link to the OPCW report.

I notice it doesn't mention what the nerve agent was by name - it says that is in the "state" version of the document.

Posted by: Jim | Apr 12 2018 11:28 utc | 315

Did the jihadists in Saudiarabia give him the "evidence"?

Another Saad Hariri tweet features Macron, Saudi Crown Prince
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gulf/2018/04/11/Another-Saad-Hariri-Tweet-features-Macron-Saudi-Crown-Prince.html

Posted by: test | Apr 12 2018 11:29 utc | 316

I reckon the attack on Syria will be held off until enough time has passed for fukus to argue that they have analysed the remains allegedly retrieved from Douma despite tight security that has kept the headchoppers bottled up for months (ssh! enough of the awkward questions already)and that traces of the same novachok last seen in Salisbury have been found on the samples.

Why? Becauses the endless focus groups without which no fukus pol takes a shit, have revealed a significant number of citizens who say that it would be wrong to go ahead with an attack before there is 'concrete proof'.
The proof will be manufactured, sufficient types who are bored and lusting for a little excitement in their dreary lives will enjoy a conflict 'over there' ditto the racists islamophobes, zionists and most of the rest of the planet's social inadequates.

If they frame Syria and sufficient dingbats buy into it, this will spell game over in the West in a way that will be more authoritarian and draconian, and last a lot longer than the knee jerk nonsense over 911 ever did.

If fukusi invade, they won't bother to look for further evidence, they will claim "assad & putin destroyed it all", that means no Iraq style reveal.
Plus the big one,all the people who lapped up the 'evidence' will stick to their guns until they die - no one admits being taken for a moron if it can be avoided, especially not when their stupidity caused the death of so many.

A major ground war in Syria will kill millions. Especially if it is Syria, Russia & Iran V amerika, froggieland, england and apartheid israel, although I imagine both sides will want to confine the bang bang you're dead side of it to Syria if poss. Tho I doubt Syrians will favour that approach, still they will be marginalised by all the interlopers.
It will stay in Syria if fukusi appear to be winning except the zionists will attack Iran regardless. To the zionists, the largest jewish population in the ME outside the apartheid state are all traitors and deserve to be slaughtered with the rest of Iran. This will happen whether or not Iran decides to retaliate for the large & growing number of Iranians killed by the islamaphobes of the pariah state.

If fukusi don't get the upper hand quickly the war will be extended to Russia and Iran, a reality that limits President Putin's options.
Russia will be reluctant to attack Israel without direct damage done to the motherland by the zionists, because as we all know, Russia has a large politically engaged jewish population, many of whom are zionists. The Russian zionist lobby may play it a lot lower profile but they do rock the boat when told to by the zionist leadership.
That could become a major problem. The nazi governments of central (hungary) and eastern europe (ukraine) get along side the likuddiks no worries, despite having cabinet members fond of 'anti-yid' dog whistles but if angry russian citizens or the police begin investigating russian zionists for causing sabotage during a war, the corporate media will be demanding 'another nuremburg' within seconds.
Types (mosy likely the usual hasbara trolls) who insist Russia attack here, there and everywhere esp israel, have no idea of what it is they are demanding, much less what impact it will have on russian society long after the conflict has ended.
Yet I see this nonsense is being prattled in here by a coupla trolls.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Apr 12 2018 11:34 utc | 317

Live fire exercises indeed :-)
https://russia-insider.com/en/russian-navy-launches-live-fire-exercises-syrian-coast-amid-expected-us-strikes/ri23084

As well, take a look at the satellite photos indicating ship movement. Pay attention to the state of the docksides. The two photos aren't remotely close to each other in date.

Posted by: Bakerpete | Apr 12 2018 11:40 utc | 318

I'm sure this will make some of you here smile.

As they say "you can't make this up" especially if you are a bunch of amateurs who don't have a clue as to the details. This is a Twitter post from this morning.

Prof Ferrada de Noli @ProfessorsBlogg
Apr 11

Am I color blind? You?

From "Medical Diseases of the War" by Dr Arthur Hurst, MD:

After a CHLORINE gas attack,"When a man lives long enough to be admitted into a clearing station, he's conscious but restless; his FACE IS VIOLET RED and his EARS & FINGER-NAILS BLUE"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dae91kjWkAA4GIC.jpg

Posted by: JohninMK | Apr 12 2018 11:54 utc | 319

From the OPCW report Jim @316 linked to...

10. The results of analysis by the OPCW designated laboratories of environmental and
biomedical samples collected by the OPCW team confirm the findings of the United
Kingdom relating to the identity of the toxic chemical that was used in Salisbury and
severely injured three people.
11. The TAV team notes that the toxic chemical was of high purity. The latter is
concluded from the almost complete absence of impurities.
12. The name and structure of the identified toxic chemical are contained in the full
classified report of the Secretariat, available to States Parties.
.....

UK claimed Mirzanyanov's A-234 was the poison...

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Apr 12 2018 12:10 utc | 320

@321 Peter AU

We don't know what the government told them it was, they could have told them it was sheep dip, and they have confirmed it. and here's the coverup so we will never know-

"The name and structure of the identified toxic chemical are contained in the full classified report of the Secretariat, available to States Parties."

Posted by: TJ | Apr 12 2018 12:24 utc | 321

"The TAV team notes that the toxic chemical was of high purity."

Yet not fatal. WTF?

Posted by: JohninMK | Apr 12 2018 12:25 utc | 322

@Bob 275
Missiles by Russia into Israel is a possible scenario-I agree. Response of Israelis with missiles would end up in total destruction of Israel, Saudi Arabia.

@ Krollchem 290 Excellent analysis of the situation and a warning to Pres. Trump advisers.

@Aren Haich 142,165 I agree with your assessment except for the missile firing-too much of a risk. It looks to me that the war will finally be over in Syria , common sense will prevail. Should something go haywire , it may mean the end of Israel, Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: Friar Ockham | Apr 12 2018 12:30 utc | 323

Blood samples collected three weeks after they were poisoned and samples taken from site that were exposed to the environment for three weeks? Be interesting to see the full report.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Apr 12 2018 12:31 utc | 324

German state tv 2nd channel ZDF news: Merkel: "Germany will not participate in any military action...However, we see and support that everything is done for to signal that this use of chemical weapons is not acceptable." (The latter sentence sounding even more twisted in the original confused Merkel style - somewhat equivocal, possibly?)

((Allegedly, according to polls, 70-90% of Germans vote for rapprochement to Russia.))

Posted by: franziska | Apr 12 2018 12:43 utc | 325

Putin telling reporters straight out the CW attack in Ghouta is "a crock of shit"
https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/984395419382894592/video/1

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Apr 12 2018 12:48 utc | 326

The OPCW report does not once mention the word "nerve agent" when referring to the toxic substance. It always says "toxic chemical."

Also remember that the Porton Down statement said:

"Blood samples from Sergei Skripal and Yulia Skripal were analysed and the findings indicated exposure to a nerve agent or related compound. The samples tested positive for the presence of a Novichok class nerve agent or closely related agent."

(High Court Judgment)

This is what the OPCW has confirmed. I suggest that no nerve agent has been used.

Posted by: Cherrycoke | Apr 12 2018 13:04 utc | 327

If the state of Israel (a criminal "outfit" to be sure) disappeared tomorrow absolutely zero would change as regards to US policy and US interests (imperialism) in the Middle East. The trajectory of US capital is readily apparent long before the State of Israel even came into existence so your "theory" is a-historical and reductionist to say the least.

This isn't to say that Israel does not have a symbiotic relationship with the US but to suggest that Israel is "behind the war" conveniently exonerates the US/NATO of being the driving force in these international crimes.

Posted by: Allen | Apr 12 2018 13:26 utc | 328

"Never said when an attack on Syria would take place. Could be very soon or not so soon at all! In any event, the United States, under my Administration, has done a great job of ridding the region of ISIS. Where is our “Thank you America?”
[Twit-in-Charge]

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201804121063474655-trump-syria-twitter-attack/

Posted by: Rollback | Apr 12 2018 13:58 utc | 329

So twit Trump tweeted again this morning on Syria:

Never said when an attack on Syria would take place. Could be very soon or not so soon at all! In any event, the United States, under my Administration, has done a great job of ridding the region of ISIS. Where is our “Thank you America?”

Here's my take on this: Trump blasted Obama ad nauseum for telegraphing strikes, but Trump is as stupid as him in every way. Lately Trump Commander in Thief has been telegraphing this and that like the pompous ass he is. So in order to make himself look better than the hypocrite he really is, he tries to confuse and deceive the Syrians and Russians by tweeting out this maybe we will and maybe we won't, and if we do you won't expect it bullshit.

My advice to Russia and Syria: remain on high alert and don't let your guard down. Keep to the plan.

Commercial aviation has been warned to stay away from that area. Trumplies insulting everyone's intelligence.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 12 2018 14:04 utc | 330

Here's some news or maybe rumours:

#المرصدالسوري #SOHR
‏ @syriahr

The #SOHR received information that if #Russia succeeds in convincing #Iran, Lebanese #Hezbollah &non-Syrian militias loyal to the regime, to withdraw from #Syrian territory; #US &western countries will stop carrying out the strikes against regime forces &their allies in #Syria.

https://twitter.com/syriahr/status/984422001845657601

Posted by: arbetet | Apr 12 2018 14:13 utc | 331

@331 -- "Could be very soon or not so soon at all!"

Could be read as he does not know himself WTF is happening -- and will probably find out when he's told to report to the 'control room' for a group faux photo-op a la O'Bummer and the previous gang sitting around the monitor when they shafted the Arab leader du jour.

Posted by: imo | Apr 12 2018 14:19 utc | 332

@332
The Coventry clothier (SOHR) claims it received a message -- so what.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 12 2018 14:20 utc | 333

Breaking: Macron has proof Assad used chemical weapons and Trump is holding meeting today with NSC to address military action. Macron has yet to deliver his so-called proof, but will discuss military action with Trumpclown.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 12 2018 14:21 utc | 334

@332

Sounds like a crazy ultimatum Putin should laugh at. The moment Syria's allies leave, U.S., Israel, Saudi Arabia and Turkey will fill the vacuum.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 12 2018 14:26 utc | 335

What good is the world, if John McCain isn't around, and if Trump, May, and Micron can't rule it?

Posted by: Geoff | Apr 12 2018 14:28 utc | 336

@332 Not sure why they would use SOHR as a go between but it sounds like the Waco option. Surrender or die.

Posted by: dh | Apr 12 2018 14:42 utc | 337

OJS @240

Thanks for the youtube video and SCMP article about China.

On Sept 7, 1853, taking advantage of the confusion and lawlessness that followed an attack by a small army of rebels (the Society of Small Knives) against the Qing government in Shanghai, a group of British merchants and hired thugs raided the Chinese Customs Office in The Bund and looted all the goods which had been left there for duty assessment purposes. ...

...On the next day, when Qing authorities tried to enter the building, they were blocked by British marines sent there ostensibly to protect the interests and trading rights of British and other foreign merchants under the unequal treaty forced on China after the First Opium War .

The Qing government ruling China then protested but to no avail. Britain and later the United States simply took over the collection of duty on goods on the pretext that the Qing officials had proven to be inept at the task and were, in any case, unable to provide safety and security. But instead of handing over revenue collected in cash, they “paid” the Chinese government in promissory notes, which, as it turned out, were not worth the paper they were printed on.

Worse, by the end of 1858, after losing the Second Opium War, China had to cede all custom duty collection to the British. This continued for close to 70 years.

Are there any bigger bullies than these "high-moral-preaching civilised" drug dealing Britain, France, US & Co?

Before opium trade war forced upon China around 1840, Britain owed/had a trade deficit of 20 million tael to China. So they started the Opium War all for the purpose of rapaciously profiteering from drug dealings, no matter how morally corrupt it would render them.

Just like what the treacherous Perfidious Albion and its US cousin & France are doing in Syria, Libya and Iraq. Their rapacious, predatory and profiteering nature has never changed and will never.

Posted by: mali | Apr 12 2018 14:56 utc | 338

Nigel Farage breaks with ‘friend for life’ Donald Trump over military intervention in Syria
https://www.rt.com/uk/423845-nigel-farage-trump-syria/

Posted by: test | Apr 12 2018 15:20 utc | 339

At which time will US/France/UK strike?

This could give a clue:

Last years bombing:
The strike targeted Shayrat Airbase in the Homs Governorate, which was believed by American intelligence to be the base for the aircraft that carried out a chemical weapons attack on 4 April,[28][7] and was intended to destroy air defenses, aircraft, hangars and fuel.[1][7] The US avoided striking a suspected sarin gas storage facility at the targeted airport.[17] 59 Tomahawk missiles were said to have been launched from two U.S. Navy warships, USS Ross and USS Porter, at around 20:40 EDT (04:40 local time).[1][7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Shayrat_missile_strike

Posted by: test | Apr 12 2018 15:40 utc | 340

Laserlurk
Test
Peter AU1
Rollback
imo

Trump was criticized for giving Russia advance warning that there would be an attack (“missiles are coming”). His latest tweet (“I didn’t say when”) is just to cover for his gaff. IMO it doesn’ have any any other purpose - it should not be read as backing away from a strike on Syria.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 12 2018 15:46 utc | 341

Sergei Skripal and Yulia Skripal were analysed and the findings indicated exposure to a nerve agent or related compound. The samples tested positive for the presence of a Novichok class nerve agent or closely related agent."

Posted by: Cherrycoke | Apr 12, 2018 9:04:42 AM | 328
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The key question here is who took the blood samples from the Skripals? By the OPCW itself and OPCW was sent the samples by the British?

Posted by: mali | Apr 12 2018 15:48 utc | 342

Jackrabbit, Mattis seems to be winding it down. This from AMN

"US Defense Secretary Jim Mattis told Congress on Thursday that the US military does not have evidence that either chlorine or sarin were used in an alleged chemical attack in the Syrian town of Douma, adding that the Pentagon’s only proof that such an incident occurred has come from social media and media reports."

Apparently he is also saying and attack on Syria may escalate out of control.
A little while to go yet, but hopefully it is being wound down.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Apr 12 2018 15:59 utc | 343

344

Yes, but Macron says "He has proof"

So the ball is still being played.

Posted by: CarlD | Apr 12 2018 16:12 utc | 344

@Kalen | Apr 12, 2018 6:52:20 AM | 303

Good post, reasonable and believable. Can provide sources info?

I still believe eventually Putin will push Dr. Assad over the cliff. I'm trouble... Putin will do anything to get his oil/gas into EU especially Germany. There were fishy stuffs when SAA tried to take Dier Ez-Zor, and I feel RT or Sputnik hiding the truth why Putin allows/helps PKK and YPG to sized Syria's major oilfields. Watches RT 7/24 but no longer trusts RT 100%

Posted by: OJS | Apr 12 2018 16:19 utc | 345

@Peter AU 1 | Apr 12, 2018 7:18:43 AM | 312

Nope, US and NATO determine to destroy Putin or Russia Federation (and Xi China too). So long Putin still around, will remain a threats to "democracy"

Posted by: OJS | Apr 12 2018 16:20 utc | 346

The financial powers stand by China. Who does need 1 billion of useless spoiled comsumers in Europe and America?. The goal is simple : Create chaos and turmoils everywhere, start a global war and smash the american empire with all the white christians in a brotherly war which will be ultimately stopped by none else then the global synedrium of the UN, with its power based on the consensus of the global elite established over the remaining of the western world and a new eurasian powerforce of 3 billions slaves. They don't need american of european workforce because it is too costly, too demanding and too risky to manage. Geopolitical games are only played at the lower tables, the real powers play at another level.

Posted by: THE ROMAN | Apr 12 2018 16:29 utc | 347

UNCONFIRMED:

BNL NEWS
@BreakingNLive

BREAKING: Reports tells us that the US & France are backing off from their threats regarding striking Syria.
The UK and the Wahhabis are left, but are expected to do the same thing soon.

A possibility could be, that some kind of a deal has been reached between the West & Russia.


https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/984459756810194945

Posted by: arbetet | Apr 12 2018 16:42 utc | 348

@349

When I type France, UK and U.S. Syria in search engine the latest news is that France and U.K. are ready to back U.S. strike on Syria.

Russia and Syria should not let their guard down with phony statements meant to confuse. Think Operation Fortitude; same principle. Deception is an integral military strategy.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 12 2018 18:02 utc | 349

@274 FSFF... thanks ... i for one will be giving putin a huge amount of credit for being a stabilizing force in an increasingly erratic world, especially with regard to all we are witness to...

i apologize if i missed any other comments... this thread is now way too long!

Posted by: james | Apr 12 2018 19:28 utc | 350

It seems indeed that the us and it's puppies are backing down. I've been watching the news on bbc, france24 and dw. The rabid tone they've been using the last few days, has markedly changed, namely by now using the alleged qualifier whereas before there was absolutely no doubt about Assad attacking innocent babies. The most rabid of the pack has been f24, licking macron's ass with the same fervour he does to mbs.
Probably no missiles will be flying until the us carrier reaches the eastern Med. Maybe by then the OPCW will come to a conclusion that destroys the pretext for aggression.

A new Nuremberg is needed, we have reached surreal proportions.

Posted by: estouxim | Apr 13 2018 4:32 utc | 351

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Posted by: michael weddle | Apr 13 2018 6:22 utc | 352

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Posted by: michael weddle | Apr 13 2018 6:22 utc | 353

Time to point out that DHMO (dihydromonoxide) is a toxic agent at both high and surprisingly low doses including when merely externally applied rather than intravenously applied, inhaled, or ingested, and can incapacitate, induce coma, or kill with a myriad of different symptoms and causes (internal failures of just about any organ, trauma (blunt, sharp, and pressure), hypothermia, hyperthermia, asphyxia). So now we all "know" what the OPCW could confirm :P

It doesn't matter what the OPCW says, or what the WHO says, or what the Tramp says, or the Mayfly, or the Mutter, or the french literal Mother Fucker says.

All that matters is what they do or don't do and even more: what others do when they tell them to like for example "go commit 'suicide by Russians'".

At which point the correct action is to kill those giving the order.

[ For those unfamiliar with it DHMO is a technically correct but silly name for water (H₂O) used for jokes, be that as it is all I wrote is still true (drinking 28 liters of water or so in a short amount of time will cause internal failures, water is as hard as concrete when falling from a height of about 40 meters or higher, water jets are used to cut steel, water pressure can crush anything at deep enough depths as well as cause the bends, freezing water kills in seconds, boiling or steam can kill nearly as fast, and then there are BLEVEs as well, drowning in water is the most common form of asphyxia). Maybe I should have mentioned the potential deaths from deorbiting ice as well and of course if you're unlucky enough in a winter city an icicle can split you clean in half, you can slip on ice or a vehicle can and take you along, and snow blindness can cause all sorts of deaths by misadventure... the list is seemingly endless. DHMO is a killer! :P ]

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 14 2018 0:08 utc | 354

Well, after I read these comments, I now hate myself. Having said this, I will ally myself with SDF and commit suicide. Unless of course can postpone wwiii please.

Posted by: jxf5525 | May 6 2018 18:17 utc | 355

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