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April 08, 2018

Syria - Timelines Of 'Gas Attacks' Follow A Similar Scheme (Update II)

Updated below

An alleged new 'chemical incident' in Syria reminds of a similar series of events we saw last year. We are told to believe that each time the U.S. pulls back from the war on Syria the Syrian government is responding with a 'chemical attack' that pulls the U.S. back in.

March 30 2017
U.S. priority on Syria no longer focused on 'getting Assad out': Haley

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The United States’ diplomatic policy on Syria for now is no longer focused on making the war-torn country’s president, Bashar al-Assad, leave power, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations said on Thursday, in a departure from the Obama administration’s initial and public stance on Assad’s fate.

April 4 2017
Suspected gas attack in Syria reportedly kills dozens

World leaders expressed shock and outrage Tuesday at reports of a suspected chemical attack in northwestern Syria that killed scores of civilians, with one UK official suggesting the incident amounted to a war crime.

April 7 2017
Trump launches attack on Syria with 59 Tomahawk missiles

The U.S. military attacked a Syria-government airfield with 59 Tomahawk missiles on Thursday evening.

April 10 2017
US envoy Nikki Haley says Syria regime change is inevitable

The US ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, has told CNN that removing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad from power is a priority, cementing an extraordinary U-turn in the Trump administration's stance on the embattled leader.

The Khan Sheikhun incident had been faked. An international investigation found that half of the alleged casualties arrived in hospitals before the incident was said to have happened. Nothing followed after Haley's last announcement. The administration was apparently not willing to go beyond the one-off strike. The flip-flop was attributed to confusion or infighting within the Trump administration.

A year later the exactly same development can be observed.

March 29 2018
Trump says US will withdraw from Syria 'very soon'

Washington (CNN) President Donald Trump said Thursday that the US would "be coming out of Syria like very soon," just hours after the Pentagon highlighted the need for US troops to remain in the country for the immediate future. "We're knocking the hell out of ISIS. We'll be coming out of Syria like very soon. Let the other people take care of it now," Trump told supporters at an Ohio event on infrastructure.

April 7 2018
Syria poison gas attack kills at least 40, activists and medics say

A poison gas attack late Saturday on a rebel-held town near Syria's capital has killed at least 40 people, activists, rescuers and medics said.

April 7 2018
U.S. State Department On the Chemical Attack in Douma

We continue to closely follow disturbing reports on April 7 regarding another alleged chemical weapons attack, this time targeting a hospital in Douma, Syria. Reports from a number of contacts and medical personnel on the ground indicate a potentially high number of casualties, including among families hiding in shelters. These reports, if confirmed, are horrifying and demand an immediate response by the international community.

April 8 2018
Donald J. Trump

Many dead, including women and children, in mindless CHEMICAL attack in Syria. Area of atrocity is in lockdown and encircled by Syrian Army, making it completely inaccessible to outside world. President Putin, Russia and Iran are responsible for backing Animal Assad. Big price... pay. Open area immediately for medical help and verification. Another humanitarian disaster for no reason whatsoever. SICK!



Over the last months the Syrian army secured 90% of 'rebel' enclave in east-Ghouta right next to  the Syrian capital Damascus. Only the town of Douma, held by the Saudi financed Salafist Takfiris of Jaish al-Isalm, was left in enemy hands. Negotiations about an evacuation of the terrorist were ongoing. At one point last week the hard core leaders of Jaish al-Islam pulled their negotiators back from the talks and reportedly executed them. Jaish al-Islam wanted to essentially stay in place and keep all its weapons. The Russian negotiators did not agree with this. On Friday the negotiations failed.

Barrages of missiles and grenades from Douma hit Damascus. The 'rebel' supporting Syrian Observatory reported of several killed in Damascus and dozens of wounded. The Syrian army hit back with intensive air strikes and artillery fire on Douma.

The terrorist in Douma hold several thousand of hostages who were abducted in 2013 from the town of Adra. The prisoners were paraded around in cages. The abducted men were forced to dig the extensive tunnel network Jaish al-Isalm uses to hide its weapons and fighters.

Two years ago Jaish al-Islam admitted that it used chemical weapons against a Kurdish suburb of Aleppo. Just two days ago the Russian military command said that it detected 'rebel' preparations for new false flag gas attacks.

Now the terrorists and their supporters claim that a new "chemical weapon attack" happened and blame the Syrian government. A video of the alleged gas attack aftermath shows a basement with some 30 dead children between two and 10 years old. They seem to have suffocated, probably from carbon monoxyd. Astonishingly there are no dead women or men - only children under 10.

Russia, which has observers on the ground, rejects any claims of Syrian government involvement in the incident.

It is quite obvious that the "chemical weapon attack" is a false flag event. The terrorist commit the crime and blame the Syrian government. They want the U.S. to attack the Syrian government.

Will Trump fall for this stunt and attack Syria? Or had he and his minions planned this series of events all along?


Trump and the U.S. military claim to "fight ISIS" but have completely stopped doing so. There are some 3,000 ISIS fighter in east Syria near the border with Iraq. Most of these are north of the Euphrates where U.S. troops are stationed. If Syrian government troops cross the Euphrates northwards the U.S. attacks them. But ISIS can cross the Euphrates southward and launches large attacks on Syrian government positions in east Syria:

[I]n a surprise attack, the militants stormed Boukamal on Monday, triggering heavy fighting before Iranian-backed Shiite militias beat them out, according to a war monitoring group and Syrian opposition activists with connections to the region. Approximately 400 Islamic State fighters crossed the Euphrates River and ambushed the town, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitoring group, killed 11 pro-government fighters in clashes, and losing five of their own.

From their desert territory, the ISIS militants have harassed forces at oil stations, as well, according to Mohammad al-Ayed, director of the Palmyra News Network.

Another group of ISIS fighters is in the south-eastern corner of Syria and under protection of U.S. forces stationed in al-Tanf, near Jordan.

Despite large concentrations of ISIS troops, air attacks of the U.S. coalition against ISIS have practically stopped.

US led Coalition strikes update

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Trump is playing theater to the crowd that wants the U.S. out of Syria. He claims that U.S. troops will leave soon. At the same time he is asking the Saudis to come up with $5 billion to pay for the U.S. 'service' of occupying a third country. Trump claims that he wants to eliminate ISIS, but the U.S. military is doing absolutely nothing to achieve such. On the contrary - it protects ISIS from Syrian government attacks.

Russia has troops embedded with every Syrian unit. Russia had warned that it will attack U.S. launching platforms, ships and air planes, should the U.S. strike at Syrian forces and thereby endanger its own soldiers.

Is Trump really willing to escalate towards that?

Update II

Elijah J. Magnier, currently in Syria, relates information about the attack on the T4 airbase in Syria a few hours ago:

  • 8 missiles launched against the T4 could be #Israeli attack. Jet heard over the Lebanese city of Baalbek. #Damascus said the missiles came from the south. Syrian air defence managed to intercept 3 missiles. #ISIS advanced towards Sabaa-Byar simultaneously with the missile attack.
  • The information coming from #Syria T4 military base report at least 6 killed and 12 wounded by the 8 #Tomahawk missiles launched in the last hours.
  • The T4 military airport is situated in the heart of al-Badiya and serves to deal mainly with #ISIS pocket
  • In my [April 1] article I said Israel won't accept the ROE despite #Israel Chief of State - I would say tactical - denial: Israel won’t leave the Syrian sky alone and Damascus is ready for confrontation
  • The number/type of missiles launched against the military airport called T4 situated in rural #Homs and the count of casualties need to be confirmed. In few hours, #Damascus will issue a communiqué offering its version in details.
  • Many #Syrians celebrate #Israel attack against their own country. This is what #Assad #Iran and #Hezbollah are mainly fighting along with takfiree.
  • T4 military airport supports Deir-Ezzour & al-Badiyah battle against #ISIS. It is unrelated to "#Hezbollah supply of weapons". The attack is directly related to #Israel unwilling to see the end of the war in #Syria. Israel supports Jihadists in the south.
  • Because #USA #UK #France can't look weak and not bomb the #Syrian army in response to the "chemical attack" claim/staged in #Ghouta... Because #Russia can't look weak and not respond... Maybe the T4 #Isrtaeli attack is a compromise to halt a wider war?

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There have been some pretty radical reports at VeteransToday. is there anyone that can verify these claims? or even a good German speaker that can read the labels on chmeical munitions seized by the SAA...or any other supporting reports of captured US UK ISRAELI chemical experts in East Ghoutta?



Posted by: oldenyoung | Apr 8 2018 20:47 utc | 101


IIRC, Hersch suggested President Trump had to be restrained by intel officials in his choice of option for military response to Khan Sheikhoun. Whilst Pompeo recounted that Trump needed convincing on the strength of the evidence. So was it that Trump got so upset by the KS footage on the channels he calls 'fake news' that he had to be held back or did he have to be convinced into his public stance and taking military action?... Maybe the inconsistency reflects a split between Pentagon and CIA

Posted by: NS | Apr 8 2018 20:48 utc | 102

Posted by: Anon | Apr 8, 2018 4:18:09 PM | 96

Trump have recently added Bolton, Pompeo, I mean come on, its obvious that Trump have no "psychologically unwilling" traits about bombing another nation.
Of course I expected come-back on that. But I didn't want to repeat what I've said before. Trump is fine with Big Bangs, like the 59 Tomahawks, as long as there are no consequences. He's as aggressive as any, as long as there are no consequences. But his main preferred activity is fondling young thighs in Mar-a-Lago, and having to do it in a nuclear bunker would not be much fun. That's why the hard-line Russian response - he'll be allowed a Big Bang, as long as it doesn't do too much damage, but changing the course of the war, no.

Posted by: Laguerre | Apr 8 2018 20:50 utc | 103

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 8, 2018 4:22:27 PM | 98

They didn't, US-France-UK-(Turkey) did.
Don, my opinion is that if it were really a Western-directed operation, it would have happened earlier, when success of clearing Douma was more in doubt, as it would have given more credibility. Leaving it to the last moment, when many of the Jihadis have already been bussed out, suggests more a desperate act of the last hard-liners, leapt on by Trump et al. to make big noise.

Posted by: Laguerre | Apr 8 2018 21:09 utc | 104

One hopes that the transfer of jihadists is carried out in the shortest possible space of time, so they will not have the opportunity to properly dispose of the evidence of their crime - if indeed people were killed. I may be wrong but I think this is the first time in Syria that a false flag has almost coincided the evacuation of the perpetrators.

Posted by: Lochearn | Apr 8 2018 21:14 utc | 105

This looks like a get out of jail free card for the terrorists. Now Russia cannot get rid of them from Ghouta fast enough, all the captives they killed notwithstanding.

Posted by: cycloben | Apr 8 2018 21:15 utc | 106

Moreover, the dotard seems to need daily drama to spice up his silly reality show. I am so fatigued from his daily antics. If he's gonna ww3, then get it over already. Enough with the fuckin tweets.

Posted by: cycloben | Apr 8 2018 21:17 utc | 107


That is what the terrorists are hoping. They might even be able to take some of that $900 million Saudi money out for their master. That and the nato agents.

I was actually looking forward to the SAA wiping there vermins and their vermin families off the face of this earth. Looks like the false flag is doing its job. Either they can get isis air force to do their fighting, or they can get out of jail scott-free.

Posted by: cycloben | Apr 8 2018 21:22 utc | 108

Bakerpete 88

The third of Germany that had supported Communist parties and were savagely suppressed by ' National Socialism' always realized that with Hitler they had crossed to the other side of a moral line .

Posted by: ashley albanese | Apr 8 2018 21:34 utc | 109

re cycloben

Syrian policy is to ship out Jihadis to Idlib, in order to ease clearances, without too many fights to the death. Once the Jihadis assembled in Idlib, with many Jihadis together, but of different origins, and little unity, they'll be easy to push over the border into Turkey. It'll be more complicated than that, but that's what's likely to happen, sooner or later.

Posted by: Laguerre | Apr 8 2018 21:43 utc | 110

@ 108

I share your frustration regarding the terrorists, but there is a huge difference between some terrorists being moved to a different location, to be dealt with in due course, hopefully, and in a worst case scenario full-on thermonuclear war. In August 1914 people in Britain had no inkling a war was imminent. Sure, the drumbeats were sounding in the newspapers, just as they are now, but most people did not have a clue about what was about to happen, except for the dozen or so people who had been planning it since 1892. These included King Edward VII, Edward Grey, Foreign Secretary, Cecil Rhodes, Alfred Milner and last but certainly not least Nathaniel "Natty" Rothschild.

Posted by: Lochearn | Apr 8 2018 21:46 utc | 111

@100 Yes, that would be my take i.e. the Russians gave them a choice: you agree to leave now or I swear each and every one of you is going to die, slowly and very, very painfully.

Because that's the thing that needs to be remembered: the Russians have said - repeatedly - that they were in possession of intel that the jihadists were planning to fake a chemical attack.

So the Russians must have had contingency plans in place, and now that the fake attack has been announced the Russians have played their card. It had to be a good one, because the ain't-ever-gonna-leave jihadists reversed their position within 24 hours.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Apr 8 2018 22:01 utc | 112

SOHR is doing some solid reporting on Douma for an anti-SAG site. Better than Washington Post, New York Times and Guardian.
About 48 hours of massacres of the intensive aerial bombardment kill 82 civilians including 35 children and women in Douma in the Eastern Ghouta, injure and suffocate hundreds of persons
More casualties raise to 17, the number of people killed by the fall of shells within 48 hours on the capital Damascus
82 dead in Douma in 48 hours, 17 dead in rest of Damascus in 24 hours. Where are the protests about the people being killed by terrorists of Jaish al-Islam?
After calm lasted for less than 2 hours in the wake of killing and injuring hundreds of people in it…Douma city witnesses a resumption of the aerial and ground shelling by the regime forces and warplanes
In conjunction with negotiations about a new agreement in it… the massacres of Douma in the Eastern Ghouta leave about 100 casualties and hundreds of wounded
The first negotiations after the massacres of Douma lead to the revival of the old agreement between Jaysh Al-Islam with the Russians and the regime
Al Masdar News reports SAA has broken Jaish al-Islam defensive lines so Jaish al-Islam bugging out before they're killed.
Hundreds of demonstrators in front of house of Abu Abd Al-Rahman Al-Kaka calling for his exit out of Douma
Tens of buses arrive to Al-Wafddien crossing and preparations to implement the release of abductees and implement the last displacement in the Eastern Ghouta
In conjunction with preparations for getting out of Ghouta, Jaysh al-Islam informs Douma people about the exit of its fighters and leaders from Douma in response to “popular pressure”
Convenient excuse for Jaish al-Islam fleeing not that I have a problem with that.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 8 2018 22:03 utc | 113

Who stands to gain from the U.S. escalating in Syria?
List of the usual suspects with aerial delivery of chems: Saudi Arabia, Israel, and U.S. Ziocons.

Russia, Iran, and Syria would be shooting themselves in the foot inviting U.S. escalation with this kind of attack.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 8 2018 22:30 utc | 114

re Ghost Ship

SOHR often does have a lot of information. Curious that he doesn't mention the gas attack.

Posted by: Laguerre | Apr 8 2018 22:44 utc | 115

Bolton on board is extremely disconcerting. He'll want more than just some bang bang in the desert. Trump is a bit like Reagan - an actor playing to his mentally-challenged audience.

Posted by: fast freddy | Apr 8 2018 23:12 utc | 116

About a year and a half ago I went to Germany for the first time. I went to see my son who was working for a German company in a city in the Black Forest, so the nearest airport was Stuttgart. At the bus station I got talking to a German man. I said to him, “I have been waiting all my life to come to Germany and here I am. I can’t tell you how happy I am to be here” This was a sort of code, which he picked up on immediately, meaning I knew the real story of WWI and WWII. It turned out he was the owner of a large company. He showed me photos of his company, his cars and his private plane. “I invite you to come up with me on my plane,” he said. I felt honoured. But ever the cynic I asked, “So with so many cars, what are you doing at a bus station?” He said he was seeing off his now ex-Czech girlfriend on the bus. “And what are you doing on the Schiesse (shit) bus?” he asked. Good question. We were friends.

The Black Forest was staggeringly beautiful and well kept. Not a trace of litter. At periodic places they had installed spring water which was the most delicious I have ever tasted.

Posted by: Lochearn | Apr 8 2018 23:16 utc | 117

IMO, it's more likely that Nato terrorist advisors trapped in Douma tried to carry out their orders and stage the planned gas attack. I pray some of those Nato pukes did get captured and will be publicly displayed, tried as spies/terrorists, and executed. Harsh? Hell no!! They knew what they were doing and the consequences when caught.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 9 2018 0:52 utc | 118

b @39. SOHR claiming the "suffocations" were NOT a Syrian government gas attack, came with Army of God accepting (for the second time) a Russia-brokered evacuation of Douma. I surmise that somehow, those behind the attack were convinced to back off. Reports were that the Army of God negotiators who agreed to the first evacuation were murdered by more hardened terrorists who then ordered the shelling of Damascus. The agreement was based on the terrorists safely releasing the thousands of prisoner/hostages they held.

It could be as simple as Russia/Syria telling them that if you're going to kill the civilians we're trying to save anyway, we'll just turn all of Douma into a crater, clearing their thinking a bit.

But the videos released by White helmets clearly shows victims not crushed, and with foam (not shaving cream) caked around their nostrils/mouths. So this was intended to be a CW attack provocation.

Innocent people, most especially children do seem to have been murdered in the production of these propaganda videos.

These terrorists have kidnapped and murdered children many times in the past. Reports by real medical professionals find that as many as 20,000 children have been murdered to harvest their valuable organs. Others have been murdered for the propaganda videos.

If y'all can stomach it, watch this examination by real medical doctors of an earlier White helmets' "rescue" of an innocent little baby.

Posted by: Daniel | Apr 9 2018 1:08 utc | 119

I forget who it was, who mentioned that their in-law questioned them in disbelief - "are you saying the NYT is lying?!", but it would be beneficial to show such people Edward S. Herman's last publication before he passed, his article in Monthly Review: Fake News on Russia and Other Official Enemies: The New York Times, 1917-2017.

To show them, yes, the NYT lies regularly about foreign policy. I think the one thing that is most difficult for some to come to terms with is, the fact that our leaders and our esteemed media lie to the public all the time. Once this hurdle is jumped over, then a critical stance towards all official narratives can begin.

Posted by: George Lane | Apr 9 2018 1:20 utc | 120

Bakerpete. Once a nation is at war, the citizens tend to back their government, even when they don't agree with it. Look at what happened in the US after our second invasion of Iraq in 2003.

There was much open disapproval of Bush II early on. Enormous protests greeted his inauguration, and there were lawsuits against Cheney for holding his energy meetings and the plan they developed in private. The largest anti-war protests in world history occurred just before the war, and continued for a while afterwards.

But those of us who opposed the President and the war throughout sure seemed to become a minority. Yes, the corporate media marginalized us, but the marginalization and demonization was pretty successful.

At least in Hitler's case, the average German's life did improve from 1933 until late in the war. We were getting screwed and still backed our government.

Posted by: Daniel | Apr 9 2018 1:32 utc | 121

George Lane @120--

"I think the one thing that is most difficult for some to come to terms with is, the fact that our leaders and our esteemed media lie to the public all the time. Once this hurdle is jumped over, then a critical stance towards all official narratives can begin."

That's what I attempted to do during my short-lived teaching career, but I wasn't able to reach a large number of people--several hundred versus the many thousands required.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 9 2018 1:32 utc | 122

Syria reports attack has begun.

Posted by: Musburger | Apr 9 2018 1:44 utc | 123

Oh well. Apparently that's an Israeli strike. Pentagon strongly denies it is bombing Syria. Yet we know Trump and his pals might want to lob a few missiles on Syria soon enough.
Man, IDF sure loves to fuck people around. Trump will want his pint of blood to appear manly and big military leader. Yet at the same time, I can't see Putin allowing 2 strikes in a row without taking any action or retaliation - and that means hitting US assets. Unless he decides to down a few of the Israeli F-16 right now.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Apr 9 2018 1:50 utc | 124

@66 For immediate release, the WH: "Both leaders (Trump & Macron) strongly condemned the horrific chemical weapons attacks in Syria and agreed that the Assad regime must be held accountable for its continued human rights abuses." "...agree to exchange information etc." Pretty soft to me.

Posted by: Alain | Apr 9 2018 2:04 utc | 125

This is for the libertarian right-wingers here in the Moon of Alabama who thought Trump was some kind of reverse psychology genius that would open the gates for a Western revival based on world peace. Nothing like good old doses of reality to put them in their appropriate place.

Posted by: VK | Apr 9 2018 2:14 utc | 126

Let the speculation begin. How about this....Trump says to Israel 'you guys want WW3 so bad how about you start it? We may or may not join in.'

Posted by: dh | Apr 9 2018 2:20 utc | 127


Could be pre-planned Israeli attack.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 9 2018 2:54 utc | 128

@124 Putin would be better advised to give the Lebanese the means to down Israeli F-16s, because at the moment the Israelis can use Lebanon's airspace as if it were their own.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Apr 9 2018 3:21 utc | 129

So Trump alliterates Animal Assad but not an alliterate peep on sadist Salman bin butcher destroying Yemen AND Syria with Zionist U.S. munitions and intelligence.

Cover headline in Zionist Media: War Crimes in Syria... obliterating War Crimes happening on Gaza buffer zone with Israel while Zionist refuse watch and cheer.

CW attack real bonanza for Zionists who want U.S escalation in Syria and cover for slaughter on Gaza border. They could care less about Syrian children since they massacred countless Palestinian children in all their strikes on Gaza. Syrian children; Palestinian children - tomatoes, tomatohs for Zionists.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 9 2018 4:17 utc | 130

Syria getting bombed again,

is it the dumb Trump?
the heinous israelis?
the pathetic france?

Sigh, war after war, and no one cares, media support it, nice world.

Russia could have given S-400 to Syria and this wouldnt have happend.

Posted by: Anon | Apr 9 2018 5:25 utc | 131

Clueless Joe

Russia retaliate against US when they or Israel bomb Syria? Come on!

Posted by: Anon | Apr 9 2018 5:28 utc | 132

So how did WW3 start dad? “Gradually and then suddenly son.” Apologies to Ernest Hemingway.

Posted by: Tom | Apr 9 2018 5:36 utc | 133

gotta love israel bombing homs monday morning.. israel has been cheering for isis all along... i hope they get what's coming to them based on there actions.. meanwhile que up the special un meeting today for holding russia to account over the false flag in douma... at some point the insanity will stop, but it looks to be ramping up now as opposed to slowing down..

Posted by: james | Apr 9 2018 6:02 utc | 134


I updated the post above with tweets from Elijah Magnier about the Israeli(?) attack on the T4 airbase in Syria. It is currently the best available information.

Posted by: b | Apr 9 2018 6:13 utc | 135

thanks b...

Posted by: james | Apr 9 2018 6:25 utc | 136

The FAKE NEWS about the gas attack in Syria now is a part of a "smoke and mirrors" act in my opinion. Pres. Trump will get out of Syria soon-that is his plan. Someone is trying to interfere or it is a show to discredit Mrs. May et al, United Nations for their stupid wars.

Do not pay attention to words, but ACTIONS. Pres. Trump stopped FUNDING the war in Syria-that is the most important indicator of what is going on.

Posted by: Friar Ockham | Apr 9 2018 7:20 utc | 137

Thanks for the update b.

I find interesting the last thing Elijah Magnier wrote which was: "Maybe the T4 #Isrtaeli attack is a compromise to halt a wider war?"

I expect that Israel does not want the ISIS war in Syria to stop because then it must defend its position in the Golan Heights as well as its treatment of the Palestinians.

Will Israel be able to drag the US/NATO alliance into a war with Russia? I guess I see at some point that Russia will defend Syria from Israel and that is when it is looking like the decision moment about US/NATO involvement happens.

I agree with others that have speculated that there is a US/NATO hostage situation going on in Syria as well.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 9 2018 7:21 utc | 138

Anyone have a link where EU, NATO, western countries expel israeli diplomats? Where they condemn israel? (irony)

Remember this next time the same ^ groups mobilize against Russia etc.

Posted by: Anon | Apr 9 2018 8:07 utc | 139

It looks like Israel has just distracted the world from Gaza by bombing Syria again.
As for the "chemical weapon" incident in Douma, most in the West view this through western "glasses" and believe the terrorists in Syria to be fine, upstanding people who would never harm the locals, but the reality is quite different. Jaish al-Islam have held over five thousand people hostage for many years and used them as slave labour to dig the network of tunnels. Meanwhile other terrorist elements in East Ghouta planned to use suicide vest equipped members to create an "outrage" by blowing up buses transporting their own supporters out of East Ghouta. I could go on about all the other outrages the terrorists have committed.
Essentially, the terrorists in East Ghouta are as depraved as they come, so I wouldn't put it past them of planting a chemical agent such as chlorine in cylinders above a civilian shelter in a basement and then "persuading" the Syrians or Russians to bomb it by making the building concerned look like a Jaish al-Islam HQ. Syrians or Russians bomb the building thinking it's a Jaish al-Islam HQ and rupture the chlorine cylinders and chlorine being heavier than air sinks into the basement killing the occupants.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 9 2018 8:17 utc | 140

My suspicion seems to have been correct.

Trump will be meeting with Bolton on Syria. So it's probably not over. Trump wrote there would be BIG PRICE to pay. I'm sure Trump and Bolton will brainstorm big price.

Reality check: Trump/Bolton - the Kool-Aid delusion finally wears off. Welcome back to the real world.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 9 2018 8:18 utc | 141

Ghost Ship

Distraction? No, in these days even the dumb western media fully stand behind israel when they massacare protesters. They have nothing to fear from the west by bombing Syria. Not even arab world give a damn when the jewish state bomb another arab nation.

Posted by: Anon | Apr 9 2018 8:20 utc | 142

Official Russian evaluation of the strike via Maxim A. Suchkov @MSuchkov_ALM

#Russia's @mod_russia:Two #Israel/i F-15 aircrafts launched 8 guided missiles on #Syria's T-4 airbase.The aircrafs didnt enter SYR airspace & delivered strikes from #Lebanon's territory. 3 missiles hit West.part of T-4, 5 others intercepted by, air defense.RUS advisers not hurt"

Posted by: b | Apr 9 2018 8:28 utc | 143

>>>> frances | Apr 8, 2018 4:40:01 PM | 100

Reading the reports on SOHR makes it clearer.

Jaish al-Islam agreed to surrender and be given quarter.

The "chemical outrage" happens.

Jaish al-Islam withdraw from surrender agreement think the might see an immediate response from West, but the West does nothing except mouth some platitudes.

SAA with Russian backing break Jaish al-Islams defensive lines around Douma.

Russians probably threatened Jaish al-Islam with no quarter if they didn't surrender and hand over all hostages alive.

Jaish al-Islam with their defences broken have no option but to surrender and are given quarter.

Israel decides to distract the world from the war crimes it's committing in Gaza by bombing the Syrians and the West is happy because it doesn't have to do anything not that it needed to because the was no chemical weapon outrage.

The bit in italics above is just my hypothesis - we'll never know for certain what was really said as the Russians don't talk and the Jaish al-Islam negotiators probably can't talk.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 9 2018 8:35 utc | 144

Follow on to my comment @143

It is interesting that Russia is the first to officially respond to the Israeli strike. Unlike with earlier strikes Israel apparently did not warn Russia. This will have some bad consequences for Israel.

What could Russia do?
- Expand air defense over Lebanon and deny Israel access to Lebanese air space.
- Support Syrian attack on Israeli supported "rebels" in Golan heights.
- Work with Russian expats in Israel (more than 1 million) against Netanyahoo and Likud

Posted by: b | Apr 9 2018 8:44 utc | 145

Russia's MoD statement:

“Two Israeli Air Force F-15 jets fired eight guided missiles at the T-4 airfield.” The Israeli aircraft did not enter Syrian airspace and launched the strikes while flying over Lebanon.
That is bullshit. PopeeyeII has a range of 80 km, distance from Lebanese border to T4 about 100 km. F-15I can't carry more than 2 Popeeyes. If there were a long range variant, they could carry only one (like the old Harpoon).
So I wonder if it was a british attack.

Posted by: TomGard | Apr 9 2018 8:53 utc | 146

Thank you b all for the update!

Isreal fighter plane did not dare to enter Syria this time but used Lebanonese airspace. It just shows how weak and afraid it is when you get tough with it by fighting back.

"Expand air defense over Lebanon and deny Israel access to Lebanese air space" should be the best option Russia could do to protect Russian personals and Syrian war situation on the ground,since Russia obviously does not wish to start a war against Isreal.

Isreal has succeeded in turning the world attention away from its crime on Gaza. Hope US amry to wise up to not act as mercenaries for Isreal and its friends.

Posted by: mali | Apr 9 2018 9:12 utc | 147

>>>> TomGard | Apr 9, 2018 4:53:12 AM | 146

IAF has IMI Delilah air-launched cruise missiles with an operational range of 250kms. The weight of each missile is 187 kg. and the warhead weighs 30 kg. Not exactly heavy hitters but they'll do the job - making propaganda.

As for Russians or Syrians shooting down Israeli aircraft over Lebanon, that would be painted as an act of aggression against Lebanon and then Russia and Syria have a load of shit to deal with.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 9 2018 9:19 utc | 148

>>>> Ghost Ship | Apr 9, 2018 5:19:24 AM | 148

Further info on Delilah

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 9 2018 9:22 utc | 149

Ghost ship |148

"... but they'll do the job - making propaganda."
Would they? What if the usual suspects spread some photos? I doubt it.

As to the lebanese air space several S-200 struck there in the past. The IAF uses it illegally. The last syrian downing of an israeli jet obviously was in israeli air space according to a combination of crash location and pilot account (they had to eject shortly after the hit.)
But, yes, possibly the Kremlin interdicted engaging Israeli jets in the given situation.

Posted by: TomGard | Apr 9 2018 9:33 utc | 150

supplement to Israeli attack Feb.10th, "jet hit in Israeli air space"
(in german)

Posted by: TomGard | Apr 9 2018 9:55 utc | 151

@148 "IAF has IMI Delilah air-launched cruise missiles with an operational range of 250kms."

Looking up the stats on the Delilah and.... I'll be damned if the damn thing wasn't developed from an American target drone. LOL. The thing was actually designed to be swatted out of the sky. No wonder only three of the eight made it to the target.

"As for Russians or Syrians shooting down Israeli aircraft over Lebanon, that would be painted as an act of aggression against Lebanon and then Russia and Syria have a load of shit to deal with."

Nah, that's a tough sell. The Lebanese would be asked if they are OK with intruding Israeli jets being shot out of their airspace, and the answer is going to be "Am I!!! You bet. More please".

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Apr 9 2018 11:08 utc | 152

Russia vowed they will take appropriate actions towards projectiles & launchers after been attacked repearedly, losing planes & pilots, generals, advisors, hundreds of embeded forces recently in USAF massive aerial bombed.

Now regardless its USM or Israel do it is very much wanting if nothng done to the launchers. Will they strike USM or Israel back?

No, as usual, Russia way, speak with ambiguity to slip away. RuA:" Again, its some civilian tourist Russians happen to be there at wrong time wrong place with some camel tribes, without coordinating with RuA. We have warned not to do sightseeing in such desert. We never warn to strike back USM base if under attack, so now we cannot do. The launchers are no longer known, as which F15 & its pilots had committed are unknown, we can't strike the wrong innocent Israelis."

So more strikes awaiting from USM.

Why US UK Fr Nato israel are so hysteria suddenly like Allepo case? Their last baston in East Ghouta is about to be captured, where all thier military advisors & Special Forces are about to be caught & exposed.

If Russia agreed to let these lords of terrorists leave in dark tinted glass coaches like in Allepo case, they will strike a deal. Otherwise, more escalations. France will gone in to hysteria fit in UNSC as usual, backed by US UK. Same scripts, different actors.

Posted by: anonymous | Apr 9 2018 11:26 utc | 153

China new defense minister has spoken glaringly in his recent visit to Russia: China is here to lend support to Russia against US aggression on Russia, the diplomat expel crisis. Its very unusual for China to speak so blant, direct at US.

Now we will see how China tighten screw on US by escalating the trade war with its $4T war chest. It will not let Trumps off the hook until he left Syria & Iran alone.

US supposed to send high ranking official to visit Taiwan as trade bargain chip soon, more to see.

Posted by: anonymous | Apr 9 2018 11:36 utc | 154

Reality check about Lebanon which has been the meat in everyone else's sandwich for a long long time. Even if Hariri wanted too, which is pretty doubtful given his alignment with Saudi (He doesn't get along with mbs sure but mbs aint the only saudi in Riyadh)and the zionist leaning elements of Lebanon's confessional system, Lebanon challenging Israel's acts of war would end badly for his extended family most of whom are in Saudi Arabia, and for Lebanon who would lose much needed aid from amerika and europe. That is without even considering what the nazis in Teli Aviv would do. When the israelis got chased outta Lebanon they left a heckava lot of fish hooks and snares behind ready for just such a circumstance as this.

So Lebanon complains to the UN (cannot go to the international court as israel isn't a member), so they go to the UN and what happens? The nazis visit all sorts of evil shit upon the people of lebanon from false flag attacks to assassinations plus releasing enough dirt on Lebanese in positions of influence to keep the joint swimming in shit for months. When the case ends up in front of the security council as it certainly would and even if the englanders say yes the nazis have breached Lebanon's sovereignty as does France (doubtful), amerika will mos def veto the entire thing & tell a mob of lies about 'terrorist rockets' being sent into zionism's illegally acquired Lebensraum making the only outcome bad news for Lebanon accompanied by nazi piggy-sneering from TelAviv/Jerusalem.

I'm sure that payback will happen but when it does it will be planned, deniable and accurately targeted action from Iran, Russia and Syria, all of whom are playing chess while amerika, england, israel & france are tryin to remember the rules of checkers.
Line up trump, netanyahoo, may and macron and you don't see anything other than selfish derpitude which struggles to envisage the potential outcome of move one, let alone all the outcomes from the hundreds of possibilities just a handful of moves in.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Apr 9 2018 11:54 utc | 155

US threat Syria with attack

Posted by: Anon | Apr 9 2018 13:31 utc | 156

The burden of retaliation falls on Syria, not Russia. And it is a mistake not to retaliate in some fashion. Failure to do so invites further attacks and perhaps encourages the US to attack now.

Retaliation does not need to be elaborate. A mortar barrage against an Israeli border patrol would do the trick. Even if no casualties are inflicted it would at least show you will not be a doormat any more. Note, it is Syria that needs to do this. Not Russia.

Posted by: lysander | Apr 9 2018 13:34 utc | 157

or was it just mass food poisoning?

Posted by: ralphieboy | Apr 9 2018 13:55 utc | 158

Lysander, don't you think if RU replies to Isr they will see US and Isr bombs raining over Syria immediately? It has a 1956 flavor all over.

Posted by: Mina | Apr 9 2018 14:07 utc | 159

Mina, I think Syria needs to retaliate, not Russia. I think Israel would launch a few more strikes after that and then stop. No, I don't think the US would get involved, or is at least no more likely to do so than now. Failure to retaliate has a very negative effect on morale, much more than the actual damage of an Israeli strike. I often think that a strong retaliation back in 2007, even if follow on strikes by Israel were damaging, would have put Syria in a much better position during g these past 7 years.

Posted by: lysander | Apr 9 2018 14:14 utc | 160

It was a slip. I rather think that if Syria retaliates bombs will start to rain all over. This is just what they are waiting for to attack Hezbollah and destroy the Syrian state apparatus.
I cannot understand why the Russian answer is so soft. Of course Israel presents it as an attack on "the Iranian base" (per Haaretz quoting the autorities) but the timing, so-called retaliation in the context of international condemnation of chemical attack for which Russia has been held accountable too, makes Russia a target too. Summoning envoys, kicking out a few figures, cutting some ties would certainly have some value. I really can't understand why they don't just launch hundreds of legal actions wherever they can using the names of the culprits they know (SF/djihadists/trainers etc) and parade the prisoners they have or put them on a plane to London.

Posted by: Mina | Apr 9 2018 15:27 utc | 161

I expect part of the (Ru/Sy) retaliation will be in the form of substantially upgraded Syrian air defences. Another part will be covert and completely unknown to us, but known to its victims (US, Is, UK, Fr). Recently there was talk of some defence agreements between Russia and Lebanon, maybe that will go a bit further now.

Posted by: BM | Apr 9 2018 15:57 utc | 162

Trump is a moron a warcriminal, but this is what the neocons/media want:

'Nothing off the table' in Syria: Trump promises decision on US military action within 24-48 hours

Posted by: Anon | Apr 9 2018 16:00 utc | 163


Silent But Deadly CNN Over Syrian Mass Weapons, Chemical Weapons, and Grave Site!
Andrea Iravani

Posted by: Andrea Iravani | Apr 9 2018 16:10 utc | 166

Trump just stated decision on Syria will come in 24 to 48 hours.

"If it’s the Russians, if it’s Syria, if it’s Iran, if it’s all of them together, we’ll figure it out,” he said.

"We'll figure it out"? In 24 to 48 hours? How? He forgot to add: Or, if it's someone else. Maybe Israelis will volunteer some fake satellite images.

The Israelis bombed that military facility making it appear they were responding to chemical attack. So who's going to bomb the Israelis for the war crimes they're committing on Gaza border?

Posted by: Circe | Apr 9 2018 16:17 utc | 167


So now he even blames a free-fact chemcial attack not only on syria but on RUSSIA and IRAN! What a friggin idiot.

Posted by: Anon | Apr 9 2018 16:23 utc | 168

trump will figure it out like may figured it out on the skripal escapade... sure... what a moron he comes across as sometimes.. just like they figured out who was responsible for 9-11.. some folks will believe any bullshit handed them..

Posted by: james | Apr 9 2018 16:25 utc | 169

@ Mina, 161

I don't think Israel will launch any attack that changes the strategic balance as they know Russia simply won't allow that. Russia is very practical in its approach and it does not care if the US or Israel puff up their chests from ti.e to time. But an attack on Russian interests will illicit a much more serious response.

The US seems to be planning an attack or at least wants to frighten everyone. The one thing that would impress them the most is the knowledge that their enemy will indeed fight back. If Syria holds back against Israel, the US may think Russia will hold back against them.

Posted by: lysander | Apr 9 2018 16:40 utc | 170

When questioned before cabinet meeting this morning, Trump also stated: Everybody's going to pay a price.

Q. Does Putin bear responsibility for the suspected chemical attack in Syria? President Trump: “He may, yeah, he may. And if he does it's going to be very tough, very tough… Everybody's going to pay a price; he (Putin)will, everybody will pay a price...nothing's off the table.

And he said he may know in 24 hours maybe 48 who's responsible?

Oh and Bolton was sitting right behind just left of Trump.

Dangerous deception?

Posted by: Circe | Apr 9 2018 17:15 utc | 171

It is just as simple as that: they want to erase all trace of their crimes, i.e. the White Helmets etc. So Fr/UK/US are together in this and the London affair was just made to discredit Russia (and the timing of the so-called chemical attack right before OPCW report means they did not want to be fooled this time).

Posted by: Mina | Apr 9 2018 17:25 utc | 172

Going under-reported is the associated assault by Daesh on the T-4 surround just after Zionist missile attack, which was repulsed. Yet more evidence of networking within the terrorist coalition.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 9 2018 17:27 utc | 173

Let's take the bets; instead of carpet bombing Syria, the US and its criminal friends will declare Asad a criminal who must be caught. That was certainly in the script from day 1 (Cesar dossier etc). We just need to read the Empire lackeys (Guardian Le monde or the one here linked) to get the script:
This will have the advantage of not being too costly and that it will somehow ruin Russia's current diplomatic strategy involving all actors.

Posted by: Mina | Apr 9 2018 17:35 utc | 174

How convenient that this chemical attack happened just when Bolton assumed his office; (not much convincing required bomb away.). Why is it that when you look at say 9/11, the Israelis are always lurking around whether it's dancing Israelis in a moving van, or two jets bombing a site in Syria so soon after the chemical incident?

How can Trump say his generals will get proof in 24 to 48 hours? The only ones that could manage to deliver that kind of spontaneous intelligence are the Israelis that are in and out of Syria all the time.

Trump forgot to mention the other atrocity happening on the Gaza border. Only the Syrian atrocity matters. It's a great distraction.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 9 2018 17:35 utc | 175

Looking at the results of the Israeli attack it has a lot in common with the Trump Khan Sheikhoun attack: majority of the missiles intercepted, little damage, relatively small number of dead/wounded. Looks like Trump asked Israel to do his promised attack for him, so that he would not face the retribution promised by President Putin (he'll get some of that covertly anyway, of course).

Posted by: BM | Apr 9 2018 18:01 utc | 176

No trace of chemical weapons at alleged attack site in Douma – Russian military

Posted by: Anon | Apr 9 2018 18:16 utc | 177

>>>> Anon | Apr 9, 2018 2:16:57 PM | 177

Russia should now very publicly invite US, UK and France to send chemical weapons experts to Douma now it's under the control of Chechen police to participate in an open investigation of the allegations. If US, UK and France don't send anyone the rest of the world will know that the allegations are pure bullshit.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 9 2018 18:46 utc | 178

Columnist for Canada's Globe and Mail insists Elliot Higgins is an "independent analyst"

Posted by: jayc | Apr 9 2018 18:49 utc | 179

In my view, the goal, as always, is to support ISIS in its offensives. Israel attacked the T4 to try whether the Russians warning on attacking their allies in Syria is serious amd what kind of response it will follow.
Trump is just watiting for 24-48 hours for this reaction, to decide if they go all out in Syria,or not, according to the Russian response...

Posted by: Sasha S | Apr 9 2018 18:53 utc | 180


I disagree. Trump would not stick his neck out and promise a tough response if he doesn't plan to deliver.

Israel is playing another role in this. The excuse coming from a Israel is that this was a strike against Iranians in the area, and similar to the strike on February 10th when they claimed an Iranian drone entered Israeli airspace from that airbase.

This time there was no drone and the excuse seems really suspect, however, I do not believe at all that this was in lieu of a U.S. response, or Trump would not be promising a tough response at his meeting today.

The Israelis were up to something that looks suspect yesterday and early a.m., but its not clear what.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 9 2018 18:56 utc | 181

Ghost Ship

Facts dont matter for west so I dont see why Russia should push for a report, the sick hatred for Russia will end up in world war 3 no facts cant stand in the way for the western maniacs,
what Russia could do is give Syria S-400 and stop trying to please west, that time has come imo.

Posted by: Anon | Apr 9 2018 19:01 utc | 182

Any input on the resignation of Michael Anton?

Posted by: Sasha S | Apr 9 2018 19:08 utc | 183

For what it's worth -- and I think it's worth noting -- Russia officially reports no evidence of chemical assault in Douma.

I've lost the thread here, but wasn't this area under "rebel" control? When did Russia gain access? Was this part of the negotiated area being evacuated by the jihadists in just the last day or so?

Posted by: Emily Dickinson | Apr 9 2018 19:24 utc | 184

Glenn Greenwald on DemocracyNow! comes out clearly as a "useful idiot" for the AZ Empire.

“I think the evidence is quite overwhelming that the perpetrators of this chemical weapons attack, as well as previous ones is the Assad government.”

“The Assad government has killed more people than any other.”

Glenn absurdly claims Obama said, “we’re not going to get involved in Syria. We’re not going to devote efforts to regime change. The CIA under Obama did spend roughly $1 Billion per year to arm and train Syrian Rebels, but nowhere near enough to actually overthrow Assad - just enough to keep the war going because Obama was very afraid of confronting Russia in Syria, and also of the chaos that would ensue if Assad was removed… he allowed Assad to remain in power even after he had threatened to remove him if he crossed the ‘red line’ of using chemical weapons, which Assad then crossed.”

This is the man who has twice set up whistle blowers to be arrested after leaking information to Omidyar's The Intercept.

Posted by: Daniel | Apr 9 2018 19:57 utc | 185

I am watching the delivery of the Dutch representative to the UN that assumes
Syrian regime and allies are culpable of a chemical attack in Douma and that
measures must be taken to protect the Syrian population.

Prepared script in a rigged Jury.

Whitewashing the White Helmets and requesting chastisement of the guilty parties.

Definitely the Dutch are parties to the lynching of truth.

Truly scary.

Peace is in agony.

Posted by: CarlD | Apr 9 2018 19:59 utc | 186

Don't know what effect this will have in whether to launch attack on Syria or not; but:

Will this be a wag the dog strike on Syria? What an effing mess!

Posted by: Circe | Apr 9 2018 20:16 utc | 187

Nikki delivered a very powerful emotional appeal, totally devoid of any proof
of guilt and based on "previous chemical uses by the Syrian Regime and allies"
shaming Syria but blaming Russia for endorsing such attacks and shielding
the Assad's regime with its veto. Asking the UN to take action against Syria.

The comedy goes one with the intervention of the French representative with the
same script and assuring all that France will shoulder its responsibilities.

Same appeal by the Brit representative.

Rehearsed comedy by the very perpetrators of this calamity.

Wish to see what the others will say.

I believe that both the Russians and the Iranies and the Syrian should voice their
opinions and defenses in English as to be understood by all and not through
and interpreter.

Posted by: CarlD | Apr 9 2018 20:24 utc | 188

@ daniel 185...i quite agree...Greenwald is playing both sides of the just another mercenary surprise this was broadcast at DN...

I am suspecting that IDF is probing and provoking for the U$ on this one...trying to push trumpster into going "bigly", as well as reconning any response from Ru or SAA with this provocation...



Posted by: oldenyoung | Apr 9 2018 20:41 utc | 189

Yes, oldenyoung. The Likudniks and even more fascistic Israelis clearly are not ready to give up on their Oded Yinon plans regarding Syria. No doubt this is especially true since the Syria government has stated time and time again that they plan to restore "every inch" of Syria's territory, and some pro-Syrian sources recently suggested that a coming offensive was aimed at Golan.

I've actually been taunting some hasbarats that we expect them to leave Golan more neatly than they did Gaza when they bulldozed all their housing before pulling their "settlers" out.

Posted by: Daniel | Apr 9 2018 23:33 utc | 190

is this a false flag carried out by obamas' holdover cia? In coordination with the leftist media to fan the flames. "Trump needs to bomb Syria" If he falls for it then they will reverse talking points and attack him for it.

Posted by: lynn | Apr 11 2018 1:49 utc | 191

lynn. You know, you're using the exact same argument the Obama-bots used for the preceding 8 years? Otherwise brilliant investigative journalist, the recently departed Bob Parry, rightly criticized Obama's foreign policies, but consistently suggested that those were really because Obama had inherited Bush II"s NeoCons.

And no, neither President plays "4-D Chess" that we are all just too stupid to understand, either. What you see is what we get.

Posted by: Daniel | Apr 11 2018 4:28 utc | 192

President Trump is a businessman and a premier negotiator that is cunning in his moves to strike a " deal ". He will not be lured into any " false flag " that would prematurely draw the United States into an unconstitutional conflict. Only the Illuminati, the Deep State ( C.I.A., George Soros, the Clinton Family of Criminals, and above all many members of Congress that would reap profits from the deaths of American lives. President Trump wants these criminals apprehended and imprisoned for treason against the United States for America. The immortal words of President George Washington are more prevalent today, then ever before : be friends and trade with others, but stay out of foreign entanglements. And that is not being an " isolationist ", that is adhering to the Constitution for the United States of America. , written by God fearing men, emboldened by the Almighty Creator, Himself

Posted by: RALPH ARANA | Apr 12 2018 19:23 utc | 193

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