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April 13, 2018
Syria – Manipulated Videos Fail To Launch World War III – Updated

[Update April 14, 5:00 UCT]

Last night the U.S., UK and France launched a symbolic attack on Syria. It was not intended to hurt the Syrian government, its people or its allies. It did not hit any of Syria's allies. So far there is no report of anyone being killed or wounded.

This was a one-off:

Mattis […] said the assault was a “one-time shot,” so long as Assad does not repeat his use of chemical weapons.

The only purpose of the attack was to do 'something' and to somewhat calm down the warmongers within those three 'western' countries. It was probably insufficient for that.

As we wrote yesterday in the piece below. World War III had been called off.

A report from an observer on the ground in Syria:

Elijah J. Magnier @ejmalrai – 4:22 UTC – 14 Apr 2018

Wow:
#USA #France #UK: 3 countries to bomb 3 #Syria/n objectives in #Homs #Damascus? A centre of research, a Control & command and an ammunition warehouse? And before the OPCW investigation expected today?

A say In ME: Huge mountains moving to give a birth to a small mouse!

No "Political hits: (Presidential Palace or gov or security HQ)
No #Iranian objectives hits
No #Hezbollah objectives hit
No Syrian Army key capabilities hit.#
And of course no #Russian deployment w/ #SAA hit
#USA looks weaker than ever with this "strike".

The giants trio hit (#USA #UK #France) fired from US base in #Qatar is celebrated in #Damascus government controlled area with #Russian #Iranian #Syrian and #Hezbollah flags, dancing and mocking @realRonaldTrump's strike

This is the 1st time in history where a capital, #Damascus, is hit by foreign power and people celebrate it in the street few hours later, challenging the attackers and expressing their solidarity with the government by dancing in the street: #USA #UK #France boosted #Assad today

#USA #UK #France targeted empty objectives in #Syria since the entire #SAA was dislocated. @realDonaldTrump wanted to save his image: the Syria people's reaction (1000s in the street expressing solidarity with Assad) to the hit is seriously damaging him.

To limit the attack to the absolute minimum was a wise decision by U.S. President Donald Trump. The people who had faked the 'chemical attack' in Douma on April 7 wanted to pull the U.S. into a wider war with Syria and Russia. They failed. Russia's threat of retaliation for any attack was strong enough to deter the U.S. military. Secretary of Defense Mattis saved the situation when he publicly doubted the evidence and held Trump back from a spontaneous 'revenge' response. Netanyahoo will be furious and the neocons will now try to kick Mattis out.

[End-Update – the original post, written before the attack, follows below]

It seems to me that World War III has been called off – for now. Sanity prevailed over a stampede of warmongering which erupted after dubious but well timed claims of a 'chemical attack' in Syria.

Secretary of Defense Mattis let know of his doubts about the alleged 'chemical attack' in Douma which the 'rebels' attributed to the Syrian government. This changed the tone of Donald Trump's tweets and the international conversations on the issue. Several NATO countries, including Germany and Canada, said they would not take part in any threatened 'revenge' operation.

Today the Russian Defense Ministry accused Britain of having directed the staged attack:

Russian Defense Ministry spokesman, Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov, released statements by medics from Douma’s hospital who said a group of people toting video cameras entered the hospital, shouting that its patients were struck with chemical weapons and causing panic. The medics said none of the patients were hurt by chemicals.

Here are videos of that hospital scenes from the 'rebel' propaganda outlets. The 'treatment' by the 'rebels', dousing with water and administering some asthma spray, is unprofessional and many of the 'patients' seem to have no real problem. It is theater. The real medical personal is seen in the background working on a real patient.

The people in the video scenes were "rent-a-mob" actors which the Russians say they have found. They also found the medics and videotaped their statements. They Russian government claims to know the main culprit:

"Today, the Russian defense ministry has other evidence proving the United Kingdom’s direct involvement in the organization of this provocation in Eastern Ghouta," [Igor Konashenkov, the defense ministry’s spokesman] said.

An OPCW technical team has arrived in Damascus. It will investigate the scene and talk to the witnesses.

Cause of the recent panic were a few videos by several propaganda outlets associated with Takfiri 'rebels' in Ghouta. These videos immediately looked staged to me. Yes, they showed dead people – mainly children – in a basement or apartment. But the bodies were not in the place where they had died and were probably not, as was claimed, killed by chemical weapons.

In the videos some 20 dead children and a few women lie on the floor as if they were thrown in there. The scene was obviously manipulated several times. The various videos show the bodies in different positions. They have been moved around for presentation. Later videos show, for example, a baby in diapers on top of two older kids. In an earlier video that baby is not there.

The 'rebel' claim that the people were killed by chlorine and a nerve agent: "Look, the dead have foam at their mouth." (Foam at the mouth  is wrongly assumed to be a sure symptom of exposure to a nerve agent.)

Yes, they have foam at their mouth. But it seems to be shaving foam and/or some white gel, not a human secretion. We have seen this trick before.

Compare for example this video from the scene uploaded by فادي عبد الله on Apr 7, 2018 at 20:49:26 UTC with this video from the same scene by Yaser AlDoumani2 uploaded on Apr 7, 2018 at 22:43:16 UTC.

A screenshot from the first video (graphic):



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The corridor where the cameraman stands at that moment is filled with dead bodies. The body with the white bonnet on its head lies in a backroom. The detail picture below is turned 180 degree:


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A screenshot from the second video. The body with the white bonnet has been moved from the backroom to the corridor and added to a pile of other bodies.


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Detail of the body with the white bonnet turned 180 degree:


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It is the same body with the same cloth in a different position. It seems obvious that shaving cream or something similar has been added to the body after it was moved. The shaving cream simulates "foaming at the mouth".

Stephen McIntyre found and collected several other discrepancies between the various videos from the scene.

The people shown have died. They probably suffocated after a shelter collapsed as the Syrian Observatory reported on that day. But the videos were likely not made at the scene of that incident. The bodies had been moved and manipulated. There were likely no chemical weapons involved in their death.

It would have made no sense at all for the Syrian government to launch a 'chemical attack' on a nonmilitary target in the Douma situation. Its imminent victory was already guaranteed. The 'rebels' and their supporters had their reasons to fake such an 'attack'. It was an attempt to drag the U.S. into destroying the Syrian government and its army. It nearly succeeded.

The various 'leaks' and media claims around the staged 'attack' have reached comical grounds.

CNN headlined today: Biological samples from Syria attack site test positive for chlorine and nerve agent, official says:

Biological samples from the area of the alleged chemical attack in Syria have tested positive for chlorine and a sarin-like nerve agent, according to a US official familiar with the US analysis of the test results.

Medical sources and activists in Syria said blood, urine and hair follicle samples were smuggled in batches to Turkey after rebel groups and their families were pushed out of the area by the Assad regime, CNN reported earlier on Friday.

The sources did not know what happened to the samples after they reached Turkey.

That chain of evidence is joke and the claim is nonsense. There is simply no way to diagnose chlorine exposure in blood, urine or hair samples.

The Center of Disease Control notes of Chlorine exposure:

Laboratory criteria for diagnosis:

Biologic: No biologic marker for chlorine exposure is readily available.

Chlorine is highly reactive. When it enters the bloodstream it turns into chloride and associates with sodium and potassium and other basic elements. The natural chloride level in a body is already quite high and changes often. We all eat and naturally dispose of table salt, aka sodium chloride, each and every day. The chloride level in a body can be measured but it is not a criterion for chlorine exposure. The 'official' who made those claims to CNN is lying.

The evidence for a 'chemical attack' in Douma is simply not there. The videos provided by the 'rebel' propaganda outlets are manipulated. Medical personal in Douma dispute their propaganda claims.

Secretary of Defense Mattis spoke out and U.S. allies refused to swallow the faked evidence. Donald Trump pulled back from his earlier aggressive threats. There will likely be no bombing of Syria and in consequence no violent conflict with Russia. 

Trump already began to change the headlines. He just pardoned Dick Cheney's former errant boy Scooter Libby. He is preparing the grounds for pardoning his own staff should they be caught up in the Mueller investigation.

This will give the media enough material to cover throughout the weekend and to forget about attacking Syria.

The staged 'chemical attack' was designed to draw Trump back into the conflict over Syria after he announced that he wants the U.S. military to pull out. Has it changed his mind? Will those who initiated this stunt, probably the Brits, try again?

Will Russia be able to prove its claim of British involvement? If so could it free Yulia Scripal?

Comments

@Ian | Apr 14, 2018 5:55:08 AM | 283

Well, your death is instant if a Hellfire lands on your head. It’s a painful end with chemicals.

Then, why does US execute prisoners with an injection instead of the firing squad?
Apparently, that is more humane, according to the US understanding of humanity and human rights!

Posted by: ex-sa | Apr 14 2018 11:41 utc | 301

Protest! National Protests against the Syrian war April 14 & 15
https://iacenter.org/2018/03/30/nyc-end-u-s-wars-at-home-abroad-april-15/

Posted by: a bee | Apr 14 2018 11:43 utc | 302

is this what make uk/fr freak out?
http://www.europe1.fr/international/syrie-les-kurdes-menacent-de-relacher-les-djihadistes-francais-de-daech-3625727

Posted by: mina | Apr 14 2018 11:44 utc | 303

The propaganda surrounding this latest raid will sustain the idea that false flag operations work. Ever more of these will safely justify our ability to bomb any little country at will and suffer no lessening of support by the mass media and those who are taken in by it. Sad.

Posted by: Bart Hansen | Apr 14 2018 11:51 utc | 304

Much thanks to b, all the posters for keeping me up to speed, I missed all the action.
Take heart, recall Grieved’s hopeful message in a previous thread.
My take: all excellent news. As an ex. Macron played his France is Back cards, joined May in Jan ’18 with their new F-GB ‘joint force’ (Brexit provides oppos), and recently supported her 100% concerning the Skripal affair – after first saying more evidence was needed. (He wasn’t clued in at that point.)
Next, Manu jumped on the touted chemical-atrocity-Douma bandwagon with both elegant feet, and started to coordinate with The Donald (they got on from their first meet), and May, for ‘strikes’ against the child-killing monstah… I thought re. the last action Macron can’t be wasting political capital, nor being daredevil with possible escalation, he knows all will ‘settle’, he will come out OK.
Macron is shrewd, calculating, subservient and manipulative by turn, far smarter than the clumsy May. (With this move Manu also shows independence from his nanny, supervisor, Merkel, who refused to join the ‘strikes.’)
Only the F-US-UK took on ‘owning’ the missiles attacks – crossing Russian red-lines was absolutely out of the question. — Theatre, display. Why exactly, with what aims, under pressure from where, etc. is another topic.

Posted by: Noirette | Apr 14 2018 12:10 utc | 305

Re: @158 on Mattis saying the authority for the attack is from Article II of the Constitution . . . that’s all about the Presidency. Kind of a broad brush there, eh? Presumably he meant the commander-in-chief language in Section 2.

Posted by: jalp | Apr 14 2018 12:23 utc | 306

@283 Ian
Please, stop listening to some media pundits and, too, stop watching Hollywood.
Your statement is only true if it actually lands on you or close enough to put you into its primary blast radius.
In case one happens to be outside that radius that missile may ‘only’ shred the victims organs, burn away its skin thus condemning the victim to a quite nasty demise; or if somebody is unlucky enough chop of a limb or two even from a distance of a couple of hundred meters away. Talk about slow and painful then.

Posted by: Hmpf | Apr 14 2018 12:27 utc | 307

Here is the french release about the alleged evidences on the chemical attack one week ago in Syria, blaming Bachar Al-Assad. Sorry I can’t translate, my english is not quite good.
https://www.defense.gouv.fr/content/download/528742/9123389/file/180414%20-%20Syrie%20-%20Synth%C3%A8se%20-%20Les%20faits.pdf

Posted by: Paul | Apr 14 2018 12:30 utc | 308

Thank Heaven
Woke up this morning fearing what the headlines would be. It appears this was just a token strike by the cowards France, Britain and our US of A
The warmongers are furious, they wanted Total War. Netanyahu is likely seething.
However, this is the “perfect time” for the IDF to hit one of our (US) ships in a false flag that will easily be blamed on Russia (Russia warned they would respond if this attack happened). And that false flag could be the match that triggers wider war.

Posted by: Librul | Apr 14 2018 12:38 utc | 309

@309
Use Google translate-
text
“This document consists of technical analyzes of open source information and declassified information obtained by the French services. ”
Basically social media posted by WH, SAMS and other terrorist groups.

Posted by: TJ | Apr 14 2018 12:40 utc | 310

Anon @299:
Not following you. How has North Korea been sold out? I’m aware that China is trying to convince North Korea to modernize itself. I read that Kim wanted the same as well, but is prevented by internal politics.
In case of unwarranted attack, China publicly stated that they’ll defend North Korea. In addition, North Korea has a mutual defence treaty with China since the 50s and is renewed every 10 years which is up for renewal in 2021 (IIRC).
ex-sa @302:
Apples and oranges. In executions, the convict is put to sleep first, then the lethal dose is given. The cases of botched executions is due to incompetence.

Posted by: Ian | Apr 14 2018 12:41 utc | 311

Hmpf @308:
In your scenario, you’d be correct.   I believe death isn’t instant with chemical weapons.

Posted by: Ian | Apr 14 2018 12:45 utc | 312

I agree with this assessment and am glad I found it since I’ve had a growing sense recently that the tide is noticeably turning against the “deep state”.
http://www.theblogmire.com/from-skripal-to-syria-the-empires-new-realities-are-reaching-the-end-of-the-road/

Posted by: Bakerpete | Apr 14 2018 12:51 utc | 313

Ian
If you compare China’s support/stance on NK past decade you see that it is getting less and less strong, meanwhile China have getting closer and closer to western views, globalization and neocons stance on North korea even to the point they support sanctions against NK! Why would China be so supportive of that? They are digging their own grave, because for a long time China have “protected” NK, today they arent, and NK see that so now they suddenly want to de-nuclearize and pretty deserted to american demands.
Sure China one say shouldnt help this nation so much, but on the other hand, making NK soft by removing their nuclear weapons invite trouble.
Syria proves that, and next will probably be Iran. Does China really want the same on its korean neighbour state?

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14 2018 12:54 utc | 314

Can anyone here point us to a map showing where the missiles hit and where they were intercepted? Or a list of what alleged “chemical producing facilities” are allegedly destroyed?
I’m just an occasional visitor here, and you all have much better identified sources than I do — so I’d rather ask you before trying to look for myself . . . and maybe going blind on the road to Damascus.

Posted by: jalp | Apr 14 2018 13:07 utc | 315

This attack is a complete military failure and embarrassment to the US, France and the U.K.
Launching cruise missiles, usually at air defenses, is how all US campaigns start. That so many were neutralized is a game changer. Now imagine if the US were to try that on someone who was willing and able to hit their forward bases/ launchers. Russia could have done so but choose not to. The SAA air defenses are mostly old and they performed extremely well. US planners need to think about their chances against more modern Russian gear.
Sources from Almasdar claim part of the response will consist of SAA and friends crossing the Euphrates and taking back the oil wells there. Putin said Syria and “others” will get s-300
Who is others? Lebanon I hope.

Posted by: Alaric | Apr 14 2018 13:08 utc | 316

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Apr 14, 2018 5:05:45 AM | 273

This is a major blunder by the top brass in the Pentagon – it means that the OPCW inspectors face no barrier to their investigation, which will surely reveal that no chemical weapon attack ever took place.

Yeah, Right. Change your name here to Yeah, Wrong unless you’re being sarcastic.
That there will be no further action on either side is a feature of this particular shitpile. Mattis doesn’t want war with Russia because he understands what it will cost. Also, the White Helmets are a British MI6/Borgist CIA creation and I strongly suspect that Mattis wants nothing to do with the fuckwits moronic schemes. That pondlife such as Macron and May were also involved suggests that Trump and Mattis want to stick it to those shit-for-brains idiots.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 14 2018 13:10 utc | 317

Meanwhile here is the “most moral army in the world” who according to Netanyahoo are doing ‘holy work’. Bunch of f*cking psychopaths. Where’s the global outrage? Christ, it doesn’t even make the news anymore.
Motionless Palestinian Shot by Israeli Sniper to Sound of Soldiers’ Cheers (1.5 min)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjTkJIPKj80&feature=youtu.be

Posted by: hobo | Apr 14 2018 13:12 utc | 318

I’m afraid I was highly skeptical because I saw those videos of people doused with water. I thought it remarkable they would want to ditch the contaminated clothing, which doesn’t wash nearly as easily as skin. And I was surprised gas knew how to avoid hitting women. It seemed like the actors didn’t want to do nude scenes.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 14 2018 13:19 utc | 319

Bwah, Bwah, Bwah. Oh dear, the precious little jihadist lambs are upset that the coalition didn’t go further.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 14 2018 13:22 utc | 320

@318 Ghost. Agree 100%. Saved me having to write the same thing.

Posted by: Bill | Apr 14 2018 13:39 utc | 321

According to pentagon propaganda Syria managed to shoot down 1 missile.

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14 2018 13:39 utc | 322

“so long as Assad does not repeat his use of chemical weapons.”
Which is a green-light to the jihadi head-choppers to fake a chemical attack every week from now on, safe in the knowledge that the Commander in Chief of Al-qaeda Air Force will come and bomb Assad for them.

Posted by: DomesticExtremist | Apr 14 2018 13:56 utc | 323

Anon @315:
IMO, China is trying to get the best of both Worlds (East and West) and a degree of appeasement is needed.   The way I see it, China is trying to entice South Korea into the Sino-Russian camp, but naturally South Korea have a list of demands of their own, and on the top of their list would be reunification.   Due to North Korea’s social-economic situation, reunification would greatly negatively affect South Korea (see German reunification).    So, the solution is to uplift North Korea first, then reunify.   China likely used the UN to force North Korea to the table which also appeases Japan, who does not want a nuclear powered Korea.   Two birds, one stone.   By appeasing Japan, China believes Japan will throw Taiwan under the bus, thus not interfere with Taiwan’s reunification with the mainland.   Of course, it’s all a big gamble.
There is no doubt that China and North Korea is keeping a close eye on the Iranian-Syrian situation.   The relentless attack on Syria and Iran is giving North Korea pause when it comes to denuclearizing itself.   The last thing China want is have both North Korea, and maybe Taiwan, suffer the same fate as Syria.

Posted by: Ian | Apr 14 2018 14:00 utc | 324

I noticed the MSM still uses weasel words in describing the white helmets video from last week. They use words like “suspected.” It’s almost like they don’t trust their sources but want to cover their rear ends like with Iraq where they can blame the intelligence but not themselves for pushing it so much.
Also, NBC showed video of a Deanna Lynn who they claimed was an American living in Syria in the area with FSA moderate rebels. So there’s a woman in black hijab tending a child who said, “they need to be punished really bad.” She represents more of the propaganda team used to push the agenda.
a web page for Ghouta
http://ghouta.com/index.php/2018/03/03/american-in-eastern-ghouta-describes-constant-bombing/

Posted by: Curtis | Apr 14 2018 14:01 utc | 325

Interesting that Russia would announce that France did not in fact fire any missiles. Was it the Israelis who actually fired missiles under cover of being French? Or did Russia just announce this to stir the pot among the Coalition? Germany and Italy had already split off, this might be a tactic to split off the French as well.
Reminds me of an Uncle who was a rural deputy sheriff, who’s summer duties included finding the inevitable marijuana patches. One time he found a large patch, but could never catch anyone in it to arrest. So shortly before harvest time he went and pulled the entire crop, but didn’t make any official announcement. In no time all the local pot growers were at each others’ throats accusing each other of stealing the crop. He just laughed and laughed….

Posted by: J Swift | Apr 14 2018 14:09 utc | 326

Alaric @317:
Will get the S-300? I thought it was “consider”. I doubt Lebanon will get the S-300 as that would start a war between Israel and Lebanon.

Posted by: Ian | Apr 14 2018 14:10 utc | 327

b is a tremendous analyst. I really appreciate what he does. But his crystal ball could use some some cleaning.
Posted by: qualtrough | Apr 14, 2018 2:59:03 AM | 239

b always shares the info on which he bases his (sometimes tentative) conclusions. This allows others to evaluate the same info and draw their own conclusions. Nobody would bother coming to MoA if his analyses routinely ended with “I haven’t a clue what’ll happen next” because the purpose of gathering info and analysing it is to assist the forming of an opinion about likely outcomes.
Imo, there’s room for improvement in everyone’s crystal ball.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 14 2018 14:15 utc | 328

@TJ (311)
Thanks for the link 🙂

Posted by: Paul | Apr 14 2018 14:25 utc | 329

@324 “Which is a green-light to the jihadi head-choppers to fake a chemical attack every week….”
Yes but it may not work anymore. Not without a lot more shaving cream. It will take dead Americans to provoke Mattis.

Posted by: dh | Apr 14 2018 14:30 utc | 330

I won’t link to the ZK article but will include the following quotes from Trump in it

In a series of tweets, the president lauded the “perfectly executed strike last night” and offered a “thank you” to France and the UK for “their wisdom and the power of their fine Military.”
“A perfectly executed strike last night. Thank you to France and the United Kingdom for their wisdom and the power of their fine Military. Could not have had a better result. Mission Accomplished!”

One report on ZH said that Syria stopped 71 of 103 missiles and the next article from the US military said almost the opposite
We are into highly delusional land now and that does not bode well. Is the public waking up more? The protests, if they occur over the next two days, will be informative.
Are we about to redefine the phrase “Bull in a china closet”?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 14 2018 14:31 utc | 331

Hay fever or Syrian CW? Millions of runny noses demand a forceful response. Assad must pay for what he’s done!
/sarc

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 14 2018 14:39 utc | 332

– I think Trump wanted to attack Syria to distract attention from the upcoming book from one James Comey.
http://www.newshounds.us/fox_ainsley_earhardt_bombing_syria_distract_comey_book_041318
– According to one website right wing people in the US are getting fed up with the continuous wars in the Middle East. to be frank I am NOT surprised given the fact that the US economy is “not too strong”.
– Even Alex Jones seems to be fed up with these wars.
https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2018/04/12/alex-jones-i-see-russia-going-direction-1776-i-see-us-going-opposite-direction/219930

Posted by: Willy2 | Apr 14 2018 14:40 utc | 333

Russia claiming Swiss lab used by OPCW positively identified the toxin in the Skripal case: 3-Quinuclidinyl benzilate or BZ. It is not produced in Russia but is documented to be in use by US and U.K. Russia Times. I hope May burns.

Posted by: WJ | Apr 14 2018 14:52 utc | 334

Ziad Fadel / 57 mins ago posted his view of the MASSIVE FAILURE FOR TRUMP, MAY, MACRON AND THE USUAL GANG OF IDIOTS

Posted by: ex-sa | Apr 14 2018 14:52 utc | 335

Syria ‘chemical weapons facilities’ have been destroyed according to the Pentagon. So no more ‘chemical false flag attacks’!
The White Helmets must find something else to draw again the Colonial powers into a regime change.
The whole exercise’s aim sounds like a dramatic and noisy fireworks to comfort Israel, the Saudis, the Turks and the rebels. I doubt these countries expectations were fulfilled. In fact it seems just like a big fart on their face. It smells very bad for these countries now.They look ridiculous in front of Bashar al Assad’s growing popularity not only in Syria but in the whole Arab world.

Posted by: Virgile | Apr 14 2018 14:53 utc | 336

Mathis: Mr. President mission accoumplish all targets hit and destroyed.
Tomorrow we will sent Assad bill for extermination all the cocrochaes in Syrian desert.
We got them all Sir guaranteed.

Posted by: Kalen | Apr 14 2018 15:02 utc | 337

@335
From wikipedia-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-Quinuclidinyl_benzilate
“BZ was invented by the Swiss pharmaceutical company Hoffman-LaRoche in 1951”
So it’s “of a type developed by the Swiss”. oh and it’s commercially available, 18 vendors can be found at-
https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/3-Quinuclidinyl_benzilate#section=Chemical-Vendors

Posted by: TJ | Apr 14 2018 15:06 utc | 338

Are the “white Helmets’ still in Douma? I hope in a jail!

Posted by: Virgile | Apr 14 2018 15:07 utc | 339

@Virgile | 337
They can always find a new fake CW stockpile, hidden in Assad’s bathroom. Unlike with the real CW, they can invent unlimited supply of fake ones.
On a side note, Russia is really dragging its feat with giving S-300 to Assad, or better yet S-400. Russia is happily selling S-400 to Saudis, Turkey and everyone else, EXCEPT Syria or Iran, supposed friends and allies.

Posted by: Harry | Apr 14 2018 15:08 utc | 340

Any informed military analysis? I see a kabuki play. Normally I would think that the first targets in a strike are air defenses. Doesn’t seem to be the case here. Maybe that’s the reason for “100” missiles on 3 targets. Tomahawk and storm shadow cruise missiles and gbu munitions? Maybe laser guided bombs are responsible for the multiple explosions in one of the posted videos. Syria says they destroyed or prevented reaching target 90% of the incoming missiles using their repaired and upgraded soviet era defenses with help from Russian radars and tactics like building bonfires to confuse and blind missile targeting. Plausible? Also they reportedly had 6 hours notice of the impending attack and were presumably tracking the incoming missiles…

Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 14 2018 15:23 utc | 341

Just found evidence of chemical weapons!!! Google =white phosphorus . Press images sorted

Posted by: Mark | Apr 14 2018 15:28 utc | 342

Russia has lost any credibility to me, sorry, they would have the chance to make it clear to the empire that any attack on Syria would have be trated like an act of war against Russia itself. Now, they might as well leave Syria at once and Assad to same destiny as Ghaddafy. The empire won’t stop now, they have seen that Russia won’t do anything. What does a symbolic act mean anyway? The next time, the empire will require a still bigger symbol to be satisfied, and Russia will be happy to give it to them. Sorry, but this rationalization of such a defeat is ridiculous. Russia has shown to all the world that it has not the courage to confront the empire.

Posted by: salvo | Apr 14 2018 15:30 utc | 343

IM
April 14, 2018 at 15:48
Lavrov said a Swiss lab identified the Salisbury toxin as “BZ” [1], looking at signs and symptoms [2] they are more consistent with what was described (recall: one of the witnesses described Skripal-father as pointing at random objects in the air) and delayed onset. Incidently, vectors of toxicity of BZ are through (a) aerosol, (b) dermis, and (c) GI-tract (perhaps why Zizzi is quarantined?) [3].
1. https://www.rt.com/news/424149-skripal-poisoning-bz-lavrov/
2. https://emergency.cdc.gov/agent/bz/casedef.asp
3. https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/3-Quinuclidinyl_benzilate#section=Pharmacology-and-Biochemistry
From Craig Murray’s blog, from posting 4/14/2018.

Posted by: jawbone | Apr 14 2018 15:30 utc | 344

Oops –I see I posted info already available in this thread.
What WILL Haley say about such info??

Posted by: jawbone | Apr 14 2018 15:32 utc | 345

UN Security Council meet now live…
https://www.rt.com/on-air/
https://www.rt.com/news/424153-un-security-council-syria-meeting/

Posted by: OJS | Apr 14 2018 15:39 utc | 346

I would just say that all this is so sickening. Watching Security Council arguments falling apart, US warmongering as per usual, funny UK representative is out of the time and touch. I am just waiting for Russian representatives to seriously say to US, France and UK along the lines of: “Do not try this again or we will bomb you just once and it will be enough.”
Or why there is no better explanation there by any sources? Are there captured SAS soldiers in Douma? Can US be kicked out of Syria? What and why French have to peek and poke Syria? Nobody talks really what is going on for real.
Strikes against Syria were just a joke that everyone was expecting.
But also death trap for and an end of UK and French PMs. Trump dies on the end.

Posted by: laserlurk | Apr 14 2018 15:51 utc | 347

First I want to compliment you on your blog. By reading your blog I am less vulnerable, to the lies put forth by the mainstream media. regarding the missle strike, I am going to have to disagree with you. This strike is not going to satisfy the warmongers, and the war is going to example. I hope I am wrong.

Posted by: MusicalE | Apr 14 2018 15:51 utc | 348

United Nations – LIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVlLYOPMZhA

Posted by: ninel | Apr 14 2018 15:59 utc | 349

https://www.rt.com/news/424149-skripal-poisoning-bz-lavrov/
Lavrov: Swiss lab says ‘BZ toxin’ used in Salisbury, not produced in Russia, was in US & UK service

Posted by: venice12 | Apr 14 2018 16:00 utc | 350

Although there not be sustained violence at this time, I do not believe that this is a one-off attack. The warmongers are clearly in charge of the governments of the U.S., UK and France, and they have long term plans that do not involve being nice guys. More attacks will come under more false pretenses. A big question is how long Russia will remain patient and refrain from escalation. There is a war faction in their government as well, so we should not allow ourselves to feel too comfortable in that regard.
On the subject of Syrian anti-missile defenses shooting down incoming missiles, I would not take that seriously at all. Anti-missile systems are notoriously ineffective. Israel is constantly boasting about shooting down missiles coming in from Gaza, but almost no informed person believes them.

Posted by: Rob | Apr 14 2018 16:02 utc | 351

Finally, some news about the Skripal poison substance. See WJ, 335 and TJ, 339.
Reportedly: 3-Quinuclidinyl benzilate or BZ.
(I am not a toxicologist, have no special knowledge, just copy-pasta.)
RT. Lavrov on the matter, eng:
https://www.rt.com/news/424149-skripal-poisoning-bz-lavrov/
Lavrov, quote:
The OPWC ‘fudged’ or ‘falsified’ results. … BZ mentioned in NO reports, while it was discovered in EVERY sample submitted. If the OPWC now wants to deny results from Spiez, interested to know why ? (paraprase of F article below)
https://www.romandie.com/news/Skripal-l-OIAC-a-trafique-les-resultats-de-son-enquete-selon-Lavrov/908829.rom
wiki on BZ. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-Quinuclidinyl_benzilate

Posted by: Noirette | Apr 14 2018 16:05 utc | 352

Does anyone know what happened to the anti-war movement? It used to be around here somewhere, but I haven’t seen it for a long time. Must be that everyone is too busy checking their cell phones for the latest sports scores and Kardashian news.

Posted by: Rob | Apr 14 2018 16:08 utc | 353

I think Mattis was the ”dove” in the white house! And that’s pretty odd, but often the world is turned upside down.
As an old soldier, hard man and rough skin, he can also smell a rat miles away. At least looks like he can. He knows bottom down the gas attack was a simple list of war.
He’s not buying it.
Seeing him standing there, soldering on and lying, – it was clearly hurting his soul.
Restraining Trump, and arguing against Bolton, he is the hero of today.
I can just imagine, Trump promising Mattis; “please, just lie for me the one time, I promise, cross my heart, -I’ll never do it again. I just can’t turn back now, my own tweets are bitting my ass, I’ll look weak. Just one lie for me and the White house”
So Mattis standing there, feeling very uncomfortable, and telling a lie.
Written in his face.

Posted by: MW | Apr 14 2018 16:09 utc | 354

@352 Ron. Analysts are saying the Russia electronically jammed missile guidance systems and that is what is primarily responsible for most of them missing their targets

Posted by: JakeS | Apr 14 2018 16:23 utc | 355

@356 JakeS. If true, electronic jamming is more believable than shooting missiles out of the air. Also, it means that cruise missiles are no longer invulnerable to defensive action. Isn’t an arms race great?

Posted by: Rob | Apr 14 2018 16:31 utc | 356

Anti-war movement MIA since 9-11

Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 14 2018 16:31 utc | 357

@332 so you rather had more of the missiles actually hit their targets? If so we would have been closer to WWII.

Posted by: MusicalE | Apr 14 2018 16:32 utc | 358

Hoenig’s “Compendium of Chemical Warfare Agents” describes BZ as:
“BZ is usually disseminated as an aerosol with the primary route of entry into the body through the respiratory system; the secondary route is through the digestive tract. BZ blocks the action of acetylcholine in both the peripheral and central nervous systems. As such, it lessens the degree and extent of the transmission of impulses from one nerve fiber to another through their connecting synaptic junctions. It stimulates the action of noradrenaline (norepinephrine) in the brain, much as do amphetamines and cocaine. Thus, it may induce vivid hallucinations as it sedates the victim. Toxic delirium is very common.”
This describes the symptoms exhibitied by Sergei Skripal. It has a very high lethal dose to effective dose ratio of about 400:1 which means very small amounts are effective and the victim is unlikely to die unless massive amounts are applied.
The comment about aerosol dissemination is also very interesting. The CCTV showing the Skripals passing theough the covered arcade between Zizzi’s restaurant and the park bench where they were found showed a blonde woman leaving a shop after they passed and taking the same route as them. The Salisbury police initially declared this woman to be a person of interest, but she seems to have dropped off the radar once the complication of PC Bailey’s poisoning came up and the whole doorknob scenario was created.
Did she follow the Skripals and use a handheld spray unit to spray BZ into the Skripal’s faces? One commentator claimed she was carrying some kind of face mask as she left the shop. The very high lethal/effective ratio would make it a very safe agent to use in this way, especially as the antidote could be on hand in the case of accidental self-poisoning.

Posted by: Yonatan | Apr 14 2018 16:33 utc | 359

The Russian defence ministry said Russia observed 103 cruise missiles fired by US and British forces, 71 of which had been intercepted by the Syrian military.
“This shows the strong effectiveness of the equipment in Syria and the excellent training of the Syrian soldiers whom we trained,” the ministry said. It added that Russia had completely rebuilt Syria’s air defence systems and continued to modernise them.
Moscow said that in the light of the western air strikes against Syria, it no longer felt bound by promises to western governments to refrain from supplies of advanced missile defence equipment to Syria.
“Several years ago, in response to an urgent request of some of our western partners, we refused to supply Syria with S-300 air defence systems. Taking into account [Friday night’s air strikes], we think we can return to considering this question — and not just with regard to Syria but also to other countries,” the defence ministry said.
Anatoly Antonov, Russian ambassador to the US, wrote on Twitter soon after the attack: “We warned that such actions will not be left without consequences. All responsibility for them rests with Washington, London and Paris.”
https://www.ft.com/content/29698964-3f9c-11e8-b9f9-de94fa33a81e

Posted by: ninel | Apr 14 2018 16:34 utc | 360

Poor Anon—Russia and China have abandoned him.
Now he has to face the Hegemon all alone.
Stand back for Marvel Comics’ next SuperHero.
Ladies and Gentlemen, Anon!!! He has all the answers, the strategies, the tactics.

Posted by: Red Ryder | Apr 14 2018 16:37 utc | 361

Bolivia and Ethiopia speak in UN for Syrians people. While the rest of the pigs for US, UK and France. Live now permanent Representative of Ethiopia speak. China yet to speak…
http://webtv.un.org/

Posted by: OJS | Apr 14 2018 16:41 utc | 362

About the calls for an anti-war movement.
If you read these comments, above you will find one from A bee who provides links to the two days of protests currently scheduled, today and tomorrow.
I am going to attend the one today in Portland, OR and will report back. While I protested the Vietnam war I am not currently a big fan of anti-war protests because, IMO, they are focused on the wrong thing. Our problem is that the elite that own global private finance and everything else including the current Axis of Evil governments we see on display really are the folks behind the geo-political curtain. I continue to say here and to anyone that will listen that the best bang for our money (pun intended) is to make all of finance a public utility.
That would kill the funding for wars and the God of Mammon mentality attendant to it.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 14 2018 16:43 utc | 363

Equatorial Guinea Representative now speak for Syria.
In English UN Live here…
http://webtv.un.org/

Posted by: OJS | Apr 14 2018 16:45 utc | 364

at this stage we should all now know that assad and putin have many secret gas and chemi sites north south east west of damascus.
we should also be aware that these evil doers control many other sites which are known knowns that we do not know about not to mention the known unknown sites.
the free central bank bis swift nations of the world need to keep a critical beedy eye on assad new hitler and punish him every time he trangreses the unwritten unknown known rules.
this will be a hard slog but with patience and many public psy op distractions ukfrance usa zion can prevails.

Posted by: norm | Apr 14 2018 16:50 utc | 365

Asymmetrical Russian response? With S-300 systems at Deir Ezzor, Aleppo, Damascus, Syria can set up no fly zones of US kurdistan, Tanf, and also the Turk occupied areas.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Apr 14 2018 16:51 utc | 366

Haley: We are ready to strike again
https://sputniknews.com/world/201804141063564269-unsc-western-missile-attack-syria-russia/
Who can blame them? No one condemn them.

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14 2018 16:58 utc | 367

aleppo s 300 forget it not important
no putin needs those s300 and s400 systems for his partners in saudi,turkey,egypt and qatar it is vital that those innocent countries have those systems asap

Posted by: norm | Apr 14 2018 17:01 utc | 368

@2 ANON. I guess you were maybe right:)

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 14 2018 17:09 utc | 369

b writes: “Netanyahoo will be furious and the neocons will now try to kick Mattis out.”
Someone told me to check out Alex Jones since he was so angry about this attack… implying the Jones Shill was demonstrating some moral consistency and jumping off the Trump Train.
Well, I checked it out , and Jones is certainly acting very angry. But he”s blaming Mattis, calling him a “G*d Damned Liberal.”
So, we have the driver of the back-up clown car transforming Mad Dog Mattis into a “Liberal,” and measuring his neck for a noose…. or is it the sword the Saudis gave Trump to dance with?

Posted by: Daniel | Apr 14 2018 17:28 utc | 370

@Daniel 371,
Well from Jones’s perspective Mattis’ capitulation to the strike shows that he is a “Liberal”–a Zionist interventionist in other words–while from Nuttyyahoo’s perspective his restraint proves he is not “Liberal” enough. I think the honorable thing for Mattis to do would have been to resign. But you aren’t elevated to his rank in the military (or any other bureaucracy) by being honorable.

Posted by: WJ | Apr 14 2018 18:12 utc | 371

Maybe one last note on the BZ chemical identified as what fell the Skripals. From Wikipedia:
“BZ is odorless and nonirritating with delayed symptoms several hours after contact.”
That would certainly help make sense of the symptom-free hours the Skripals reportedly experienced after leaving home on March 4, and support the supposition that they were poisoned in that home.

Posted by: Emily Dickinson | Apr 14 2018 18:14 utc | 372

Forgive me if I’ve missed it in this behemoth thread, but has anybody analyzed the likely take away for Russia military intelligence from this strike? Was it too symbolic to relay any legit insight as to US ballistic capabilities and Russian ability to thwart them? The success of even the older technology manned by the Syrians (if Russia really did not use anything of its own) might lead one to infer that the S-400’s success rate against a similar volume of incoming threats (90-110) might near 100% effectiveness. Is the US worried that the only way to overcome the S-400 (given Syria’s own success) would involve launching missiles in such large quantities at a time (say 300-400 per wave) as would prove operationally difficult, perhaps impossible, to sustain in a limited theatre. Another way of putting this: might the US now think that no direct but limited attack upon Russian interests is even possible, given the superiority of contemporary Russian defensive ballistic technology?

Posted by: WJ | Apr 14 2018 18:26 utc | 373

@223 peter… i am with grieved @225!!! don’t press it! how about a change of colour with trumps hair instead? lol..
@228 john… spoken like a true idiot / ignoramus.. “It is clear to Canada that chemical weapons were used and that they were used by the Assad regime.”- Chrystia Freeland, Minister of Global Affairs Canada – what an ongoing embarrassment for canada..
@245 anon.. good comment… i don’t expect posters and people to change too much though..
too many posts!!! i can’t read them all!

Posted by: james | Apr 14 2018 19:09 utc | 374

@367 Peter. Well that would be symmetrical right? Asymmetrical would infer pulling Turkey further away from NATO or perhaps offering AA systems to Lebanon though that would antagonise Israel. Could be also financial means or simply consistently expose the US to its lack of respect for Intl Law & Institutions slowly isolating it in the eyes of all nations..

Posted by: Lozion | Apr 14 2018 19:59 utc | 375

@374 “….launching missiles in such large quantities at a time (say 300-400 per wave)…”
You are describing a Raytheon stockholder’s dream.

Posted by: dh | Apr 14 2018 20:27 utc | 376

@Posted by: dh | Apr 14, 2018 4:27:38 PM | 377
You are describing a Raytheon stockholder’s dream.
It was a dream indeed even with onet hird of missiles….
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Damg8OqXcAEIJWd.jpg:large

Posted by: From the resistance trench with love | Apr 14 2018 20:56 utc | 377

Southfront reports this “Mission Accomplished” was…. well, not so much. And what a joke that our Star President even Tweeted that phrase.
The Russian Defense Ministry said that it had detected 103 cruise and air-to-surface missiles, 73 of which had been intercepted by the SADF. The Russian military provided the following list of the targets with additional details on the strikes:
Four missiles were launched at the area of the Damascus International Airport. All these missiles were intercepted.
12 missiles were launched at the Al-Dumayr Military Airport. All these missiles were intercepted.
18 missiles were launched at the Baly Military Airport. All these missiles were intercepted.
12 missiles were launched at the Shayarat Military Airport. All these missiles were intercepted.
9 missiles were launched at the Mezzeh Military Airport. Five of them were intercepted.
16 missiles were launched at the Homs Military Airport. 13 of them were intercepted.
30 missiles were launched at targets in the areas of Barzah and Jaramani. Seven missiles were intercepted.
https://southfront.org/summing-up-results-of-us-uk-france-strike-on-syria-statements-and-speculations/

Posted by: Daniel | Apr 14 2018 21:40 utc | 378

https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/EC/87/en/ec87dg21_e_.pdf
I can’t get over it that US, UK and France played the prosecutor, judge and jury and took matters in their own hands (§§5, 6 7). It is a disregard of international mechanisms. I wonder if Russia is silently relieved, though, because this put an end to the SSRC matter? Would they not have had a teeny tiny bit of intelligence pointing to the fact that the SSRC was a target? Did Syria let those 2 facilities get destroyed to put an end to the saga? Look at the amount of missiles not intercepted that were targeting those 2 facilities, they make up the bulk of missiles that actually hit their targets. I don’t know what it is with the list of questions. There is always the possibility that questions were asked which could not possibly be addressed (i.e. an attempt at screwing the SAA and get them into non compliance which the Netherlands letter might be an indication of). But what if another false flag happens now that the alleged CW program of Syria is “thrown back years”? Something is going on here on a mighty scale.
Netherland letter: https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/EC/87/en/Netherlands_Statement_EC-87.pdf This letter shows the attempt to politicize the OPCW just as the UNSC has become a tool of the US, UK and France. It is in my view correct the OPCW is not in the business of attribution since it should focus on establishing facts in an impartial way. The moment you look to attribution you are risking politicization and thus, confirmation bias.

Posted by: BX | Apr 15 2018 9:22 utc | 379

I know now what Lavrov is referring to.
I recalled what happened with the OPCW report on the 2 incidents in East Ghouta in August 2013. This report is publicly available. These reports consist of the actual report in plain language that summarizes the results of the fact finding missions and subsequent analyses by OPCW accredited labs AND appendices containing tables listing the actual lab results.
Now, at the beginning, the report would describe where the investigators went, when they went and what the general circumstances were.
There were 2 sites claimed to be sites of Sarin attacks. On day 1 they went to the first site and collected a lot of environmental samples (I am not talking about biological samples aka medical reports and blood samples here as naturally, these can be easily moved from one place to the other) and that day was comparatively uneventful, meaning, while the general setting (jihadis all around) was not brilliant they were not actively under threat. So, they collected quite a few environmental samples. On the second day, the day immediately after they had been to site 1, they went to site 2, namely, Jobar. Here, they were threatened by snipers and although they collected environmental samples, they did not collect as many samples as they had on site 1.
Now, these environmental samples were analyzed and while samples from site 1 did show Sarin (and plenty of that), no sample from site 2, only a few miles (if at all) away, collected one day later, exposed to the same weather conditions (I cannot talk to local wind but samples were also taken from within house), no samples from site 2 came up with Sarin. No samples.
This becomes clear from the *tables* which are attached as *appendices* and are pretty technical. Now, if you look at the tables, with the results from all labs tasked by the OPCW with analyzing biological and environmental samples, you will nowhere find an indication of the site where the relevant environmental samples were taken from. They are only identified by the day the sample was taken. Only if you reference back to the first page of the actual report you realize that the dates identify those 2 different sites.
The report itself nowhere points to the fact that no environmental samples from site 2 showed any traces of Sarin. The OPCW covered themselves though since they can always point to the tables (“we hid nothing”). But no normal member of the public would study the tables, the member of the public would read the report and have no idea of this striking fact. I have proof of that. I discussed this with Mr. Higgins of Bellingcat and he had no clue either. *He had no clue* and I have the screens (he also hurled a few expletives at me). This shows how hard it is to understand what this report is actually saying:
There is no scientific evidence based on the environmental samples (taken from structures, i.e. the house, and I think a shoe and a cushion inside the house, it’s a while since I read it and I did not revisit the report for this post here) there was a Sarin attack in Jobar.
If it had been that easy for the public to find out about this, and compare this with the claims that were made, imagine what could have unraveled. You also need to look at the reported fact that it was made very difficult for the investigators to do their work in Jobar at all (sniper threat) as if they were to be deterred from taking samples. (The place was not prepped.) Of course, Sarin is volatile but with textiles, a little less so. It would also lead to the question why a day earlier there was that amount of unequivocal Sarin evidence to be found. You cannot have it both ways.
In summary, I believe the BZ results are listed in the tables which is what Lavrov is referring to but not discussed in the actual report. This is the same strategy that was applied for the 2013 report – while the facts are in the tables the report does not discuss them and makes it harder for the public to get to the facts. It is exactly the same strategy.
Lavrov’s comments did not make sense to me until I realized he must be referring to this strategy which I encountered in the 2013 report. People need to understand the bipartite structure of these OPCW reports, namely, the report/discussion/presentation and the table containing the actual lab results.

Posted by: BX | Apr 15 2018 11:32 utc | 380

In other words, what Lavrov is referring to is manipulation of the public by omission. If the OPCW had discussed the presence of BZ in samples taken early (Porton Down samples, before drug metabolism extinguished any trace) – and Lavrov is aware of the significance of the fact it was found in early samples – they would have been forced to detail the usage and effects of this substance. And from here, because of its relevance, they would have had to include it in the Executive Summary which is public, and the public would have learned about it. Is this why the report is classified; to prevent members of the public to find the BZ reference in the tables? Also, what we know about the Skripals’ stay in hospital fits in with BZ. BZ causes LSD like hallucinations (it is related) and the two NHS ladies were talking about hallucinations. BZ is also said to be “safe”, i.e. non lethal and reversible. Gary Aitkenhead said there is no known therapy to “novichok”. This is indeed a bombshell. And the fact they are hiding it makes it even more of a bombshell. Lst’s work from here.

Posted by: BX | Apr 15 2018 12:11 utc | 381

Anti-war movement MIA since 9-11
Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 14, 2018 12:31:29 PM | 358
Bush2-Obama-Trump all signing off on the 24/7/365 constant state of emergency year in year out since would have a chilling effect it seems.
***
I think Mattis was the ”dove” in the white house! And that’s pretty odd
Posted by: MW | Apr 14, 2018 12:09:28 PM | 355
Yeah strange days, though must be said Mattis being intimately familiar with war, has every reason to be dovish, knowing the horror and brutality he’s unleashed. Dovish today, but the moment the call is made we’ll no doubt see the ‘All In’ barbarian.

Posted by: MadMax2 | Apr 15 2018 13:37 utc | 382

I notice that in the rotated picture of the white scarf woman her face is bright red. This is consistent with CO poisoning.

Posted by: GaryK | Apr 15 2018 19:05 utc | 383

BX, great observations. The same tactic of hiding evidence “in plain sight” is in the 9/11 Commission Report.
eg. Inside the report, we find that the jet fuel burned off within minutes, and had no influence on the heat of the fires. The core columns did not even reach 250 C [480F].
So all the “debate” about whether the jet fuel melted the steel columns or just softened them enough to bend, causing collapse is misdirection.
In the OPCW report you linked, we find in both 2017 inspections of the Barzah and Jamrayah facilities, “that the inspection team did not observe any activities inconsistent with obligations under the Convention.”

Posted by: Daniel | Apr 15 2018 23:03 utc | 384

Isn’t it good that everyone has forgotten about SCL/Cambridge Analytica and their global activities. I haven’t seen a mention of what they were up to in Petersburg for a few weeks. The UK establishment blew that under the carpet fast. Perhaps they are waiting until Sergei recovers and rejoins the team.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 18 2018 0:39 utc | 385

@386 uncle tungsten.. yes – i think that is the idea…. the uk are so busy making more blunders and false flags, they have no time to look themselves in the mirror it seems.. i just finished reading the transcript karlof1 left on the open thread.. it is an interview with bbc and sergei lavrov… the bbc interviewer comes across as very foul, while lavrov responds very informatively… none of this seems to penetrate the uk institutions that are gunning for war with russia…

Posted by: james | Apr 18 2018 1:09 utc | 386

uncle tungsten and James. Yep. This Reality Show we’re in seems designed to keep us one step behind at all times.
“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

Posted by: Daniel | Apr 18 2018 5:29 utc | 387

ALL of you are so lame and ignorant.
The simple of it is, this is an obvious FALSE FLAG OPERATION of the many hundreds this FILTHY CLAN has pulled on humanity!!! case closed. All your stupid bickering is just keeping you away from the truth! All your speculations are UTTERLY USELESS!!!, only an exercise in who is the best at INTELLECTUALIZING… mosty 10 year old can do that! …and the CLAN sets you up for such lameness, because it keeps you divided with DIARRHEA while the truth is in your face!
– You respond as if you believe the events have at the base a credible level of good to CRIMINALITY(90%/10% ratio), as if governments are mostly righteous and well intended while fighting their mistakes and so-called corruption!
– You still think President-this President-that, nation versus nation, government vs government, oil here oil there(when it is ALL resources and control, not just oil[fckng IDIOTS!]), …
– You completely fail to see that the shadow JOOvernment EXISTs across nations! …and that all you utter should be that the reality of things is these JOO bought sold and paid for CRIMINALs in JOOvernments turn their eyes to the ORCHESTRATED constant sabotage of humanity!
– So many presidents of the U.S. have warned of this AshkeNAZIm JOO Rothschild/Rockefellons FILTHY JOO MAFIA that holds so many nations in their CRIMINAL CLAMP, one would think the GOYim(you) would eventually wake up and smell the JOO STENCH!
– the so-called ‘Chosen'(from their own writings) exercising their WORLD SUPREMACY CRIME in your face and you fail to see the deception(JOOstianism included especially)
– just go look at the JOO in congress who are trying to get the guns from the U.S. people
– What the PROTOCOLS of the LEARNED ELDERS of ZION cover is basically the blueprint of the TALMUD, the supposedly FILTHY NASTY JOO BIBLE(book of politics)
– in the PROTOCOLS is says that if the GOYim is to expose the FILTHY JOO CRIMINAL ways in one publication, they will put out 10 publications with 10 different opinions so that the truth becomes but a mere opinion!!!
– then they wash your head with the grandeur of producing a balanced report on the FILTHY CRIMINAL JOO NEWS media(completely JOO owned)…
WTF! is a goddamned balanced report… how about I found this, and that is the truth! …and it smells of CRIME!
– The CLAN controls PUBLIC money in their FILTHY JOO hands, the JOOderal JOOserve SCAM BANK is PRIVATE to the FILTHY JOO, they print money at will and charge the nations interest!!!
– if you, little GOYim were to print just a few bills and got caught, you are automatically in the slammer for 10 years.
– The IRS is illegal collector of that money, which goes straight to the JOO coffers!!! yeah… check the Department of the Treasury checks!!!
– welcome to .001% of what that callous hideous CLAN does!
The powers that be, THEY!(The Hideous Evil Yids), the FILTHY JOO specie!
THE CLAN who has been EEEjected from 85+ locations on Earth 135+ times! The only FILTHY PARASITE who holds this record with ZERO competitors! Just think about that!
The very CLAN that has held a region of RUSSIA(Birobidzhan) as their land since before WWII… bigger than JOOsrael. …yet they are RAPING the Palestinians of their land while you the GOYim stand and do nothing!

Posted by: Iamnotdumb | May 4 2018 12:43 utc | 388