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April 13, 2018
Syria – Manipulated Videos Fail To Launch World War III – Updated

[Update April 14, 5:00 UCT]

Last night the U.S., UK and France launched a symbolic attack on Syria. It was not intended to hurt the Syrian government, its people or its allies. It did not hit any of Syria's allies. So far there is no report of anyone being killed or wounded.

This was a one-off:

Mattis […] said the assault was a “one-time shot,” so long as Assad does not repeat his use of chemical weapons.

The only purpose of the attack was to do 'something' and to somewhat calm down the warmongers within those three 'western' countries. It was probably insufficient for that.

As we wrote yesterday in the piece below. World War III had been called off.

A report from an observer on the ground in Syria:

Elijah J. Magnier @ejmalrai – 4:22 UTC – 14 Apr 2018

Wow:
#USA #France #UK: 3 countries to bomb 3 #Syria/n objectives in #Homs #Damascus? A centre of research, a Control & command and an ammunition warehouse? And before the OPCW investigation expected today?

A say In ME: Huge mountains moving to give a birth to a small mouse!

No "Political hits: (Presidential Palace or gov or security HQ)
No #Iranian objectives hits
No #Hezbollah objectives hit
No Syrian Army key capabilities hit.#
And of course no #Russian deployment w/ #SAA hit
#USA looks weaker than ever with this "strike".

The giants trio hit (#USA #UK #France) fired from US base in #Qatar is celebrated in #Damascus government controlled area with #Russian #Iranian #Syrian and #Hezbollah flags, dancing and mocking @realRonaldTrump's strike

This is the 1st time in history where a capital, #Damascus, is hit by foreign power and people celebrate it in the street few hours later, challenging the attackers and expressing their solidarity with the government by dancing in the street: #USA #UK #France boosted #Assad today

#USA #UK #France targeted empty objectives in #Syria since the entire #SAA was dislocated. @realDonaldTrump wanted to save his image: the Syria people's reaction (1000s in the street expressing solidarity with Assad) to the hit is seriously damaging him.

To limit the attack to the absolute minimum was a wise decision by U.S. President Donald Trump. The people who had faked the 'chemical attack' in Douma on April 7 wanted to pull the U.S. into a wider war with Syria and Russia. They failed. Russia's threat of retaliation for any attack was strong enough to deter the U.S. military. Secretary of Defense Mattis saved the situation when he publicly doubted the evidence and held Trump back from a spontaneous 'revenge' response. Netanyahoo will be furious and the neocons will now try to kick Mattis out.

[End-Update – the original post, written before the attack, follows below]

It seems to me that World War III has been called off – for now. Sanity prevailed over a stampede of warmongering which erupted after dubious but well timed claims of a 'chemical attack' in Syria.

Secretary of Defense Mattis let know of his doubts about the alleged 'chemical attack' in Douma which the 'rebels' attributed to the Syrian government. This changed the tone of Donald Trump's tweets and the international conversations on the issue. Several NATO countries, including Germany and Canada, said they would not take part in any threatened 'revenge' operation.

Today the Russian Defense Ministry accused Britain of having directed the staged attack:

Russian Defense Ministry spokesman, Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov, released statements by medics from Douma’s hospital who said a group of people toting video cameras entered the hospital, shouting that its patients were struck with chemical weapons and causing panic. The medics said none of the patients were hurt by chemicals.

Here are videos of that hospital scenes from the 'rebel' propaganda outlets. The 'treatment' by the 'rebels', dousing with water and administering some asthma spray, is unprofessional and many of the 'patients' seem to have no real problem. It is theater. The real medical personal is seen in the background working on a real patient.

The people in the video scenes were "rent-a-mob" actors which the Russians say they have found. They also found the medics and videotaped their statements. They Russian government claims to know the main culprit:

"Today, the Russian defense ministry has other evidence proving the United Kingdom’s direct involvement in the organization of this provocation in Eastern Ghouta," [Igor Konashenkov, the defense ministry’s spokesman] said.

An OPCW technical team has arrived in Damascus. It will investigate the scene and talk to the witnesses.

Cause of the recent panic were a few videos by several propaganda outlets associated with Takfiri 'rebels' in Ghouta. These videos immediately looked staged to me. Yes, they showed dead people – mainly children – in a basement or apartment. But the bodies were not in the place where they had died and were probably not, as was claimed, killed by chemical weapons.

In the videos some 20 dead children and a few women lie on the floor as if they were thrown in there. The scene was obviously manipulated several times. The various videos show the bodies in different positions. They have been moved around for presentation. Later videos show, for example, a baby in diapers on top of two older kids. In an earlier video that baby is not there.

The 'rebel' claim that the people were killed by chlorine and a nerve agent: "Look, the dead have foam at their mouth." (Foam at the mouth  is wrongly assumed to be a sure symptom of exposure to a nerve agent.)

Yes, they have foam at their mouth. But it seems to be shaving foam and/or some white gel, not a human secretion. We have seen this trick before.

Compare for example this video from the scene uploaded by فادي عبد الله on Apr 7, 2018 at 20:49:26 UTC with this video from the same scene by Yaser AlDoumani2 uploaded on Apr 7, 2018 at 22:43:16 UTC.

A screenshot from the first video (graphic):



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The corridor where the cameraman stands at that moment is filled with dead bodies. The body with the white bonnet on its head lies in a backroom. The detail picture below is turned 180 degree:


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A screenshot from the second video. The body with the white bonnet has been moved from the backroom to the corridor and added to a pile of other bodies.


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Detail of the body with the white bonnet turned 180 degree:


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It is the same body with the same cloth in a different position. It seems obvious that shaving cream or something similar has been added to the body after it was moved. The shaving cream simulates "foaming at the mouth".

Stephen McIntyre found and collected several other discrepancies between the various videos from the scene.

The people shown have died. They probably suffocated after a shelter collapsed as the Syrian Observatory reported on that day. But the videos were likely not made at the scene of that incident. The bodies had been moved and manipulated. There were likely no chemical weapons involved in their death.

It would have made no sense at all for the Syrian government to launch a 'chemical attack' on a nonmilitary target in the Douma situation. Its imminent victory was already guaranteed. The 'rebels' and their supporters had their reasons to fake such an 'attack'. It was an attempt to drag the U.S. into destroying the Syrian government and its army. It nearly succeeded.

The various 'leaks' and media claims around the staged 'attack' have reached comical grounds.

CNN headlined today: Biological samples from Syria attack site test positive for chlorine and nerve agent, official says:

Biological samples from the area of the alleged chemical attack in Syria have tested positive for chlorine and a sarin-like nerve agent, according to a US official familiar with the US analysis of the test results.

Medical sources and activists in Syria said blood, urine and hair follicle samples were smuggled in batches to Turkey after rebel groups and their families were pushed out of the area by the Assad regime, CNN reported earlier on Friday.

The sources did not know what happened to the samples after they reached Turkey.

That chain of evidence is joke and the claim is nonsense. There is simply no way to diagnose chlorine exposure in blood, urine or hair samples.

The Center of Disease Control notes of Chlorine exposure:

Laboratory criteria for diagnosis:

Biologic: No biologic marker for chlorine exposure is readily available.

Chlorine is highly reactive. When it enters the bloodstream it turns into chloride and associates with sodium and potassium and other basic elements. The natural chloride level in a body is already quite high and changes often. We all eat and naturally dispose of table salt, aka sodium chloride, each and every day. The chloride level in a body can be measured but it is not a criterion for chlorine exposure. The 'official' who made those claims to CNN is lying.

The evidence for a 'chemical attack' in Douma is simply not there. The videos provided by the 'rebel' propaganda outlets are manipulated. Medical personal in Douma dispute their propaganda claims.

Secretary of Defense Mattis spoke out and U.S. allies refused to swallow the faked evidence. Donald Trump pulled back from his earlier aggressive threats. There will likely be no bombing of Syria and in consequence no violent conflict with Russia. 

Trump already began to change the headlines. He just pardoned Dick Cheney's former errant boy Scooter Libby. He is preparing the grounds for pardoning his own staff should they be caught up in the Mueller investigation.

This will give the media enough material to cover throughout the weekend and to forget about attacking Syria.

The staged 'chemical attack' was designed to draw Trump back into the conflict over Syria after he announced that he wants the U.S. military to pull out. Has it changed his mind? Will those who initiated this stunt, probably the Brits, try again?

Will Russia be able to prove its claim of British involvement? If so could it free Yulia Scripal?

Comments

Daniel 191 yess, I feel sick about the people killed as well. Wealthpower giants play with all our lives as if Humanity was a video game. I worry my friends in Gaza can’t take much more…today was awful there, too.

Posted by: Mother of God! | Apr 14 2018 5:05 utc | 201

Well, as stupid as I think the leaders of this country are, I’m not sure they’re stupid enough to believe their own bullshit. White House claims they relied on social media and “open source” reports as to the authenticity of Assad’s chemical attack because, well, because who could make up such propaganda:
https://www.rt.com/usa/424098-white-house-media-chemical-attack/

Posted by: Emily Dickinson | Apr 14 2018 5:06 utc | 202

I should have included the money quote from the White House assessment:
“It is unlikely that the opposition could fabricate this volume of media reports on regime chemical weapons use. Such a widespread fabrication would require a highly organized and compartmented campaign to deceive multiple media outlets while evading our detection,” the assessment stated.

Posted by: Emily Dickinson | Apr 14 2018 5:09 utc | 203

@all – I just updated the above piece.

Posted by: b | Apr 14 2018 5:16 utc | 204

WJ 151
Vanessa Beeley is on the ground in Damascus – Do you really think anyone here may possibly be more knowledgeable – really?

Posted by: m | Apr 14 2018 5:23 utc | 205

From what I have seen, critical facilities that had may have had close in air defense (Pantsir?) were ok. One wave of missiles may have hit a densely populated residential suburb. Have seen nothing more on that.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Apr 14 2018 5:23 utc | 206

Posted by: Circe | Apr 13, 2018 11:40:24 PM | 175
FFS Circe you’ve only been back here five minutes and already you’re straight back into the facile game of partisan finger pointing, your tongue n groove mate Hillary woulda been bombing the bejeezuz outta Syria for at least a year by now. Why even try to divert the conversation away from the essential issue which is that all amerikan pols of whatever stripe suck israeli dick, regardless of what team they claim to bat for.
Blaming one particular pol isn’t just a weak arsed attempt at diversion, it plays straight into the evil fuckers hands, They all love “tweedledee is bad, therefore tweedledum must be good’ because it means no matter who wins the vote, everybody on this planet who is halfway decent loses.
Anybody who spends more that a half second on that who isn’t a moron or a mercenary suckarse for one of the teams, inevitably concludes that the attempt to reduce the empire’s SOP down to which creepy politician I should vote for, is a total waste of time & energy. Every worthless blackhead squeezing waste of space who has a national profile in amerikan politics is a liar, cheat & thief, look at what each one does, ignore what they say and study what they actually do and you’ll understand that there is nothing else to be learned.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Apr 14 2018 5:27 utc | 207

Excellent update B which captures reality on the ground.
The mood and bloodlust has been deconflicted in typical Russian style. However, as they say “there will be consequences for this action”. Hard to see the May government surviving this act of insanity.

Posted by: m | Apr 14 2018 5:29 utc | 208

Until a golden stake is driven through the heart of the neo-cons this kind of event will happen over and over. They have their eyes on the prize, and the prize is the destruction of any possible threat to Israeli-US plans for the Middle East. Once they have accomplished their goal in Syria the next step is Iran. You just watch.

Posted by: qualtrough | Apr 14 2018 5:30 utc | 209

b, 4 civilians have been killed in the #Baraza housing complex for the poor. According to a place called Syria News Daily.

Posted by: Mother of God! | Apr 14 2018 5:33 utc | 210

Well, it sounds paradoxical, but I think we have Mattis and Dunford to thank, obviously encouraged by Gerasimov. At least the military men knew where this was leading and stopped it.
m @207 yes, very hard to see May surviving this, particularly if OPCW carry on.
On a night of mixed emotions, I am currently considerably heartened.
And we have just witnessed the beginning of the end for the hegemon.

Posted by: cdvision | Apr 14 2018 5:36 utc | 211

@204 m,
Lol. More knowledgeable than *me*, not her. For several reasons, I doubt that Israel really would involve themselves so straightforwardly as launching missiles over Lebanese air space into Syria. I don’t know the basis for Beeley’s claim and suspect it’s just an (understandable) false inference. But I do highly admire her reporting and was not meaning to impugn.

Posted by: WJ | Apr 14 2018 5:45 utc | 212

@203 b
Excellent update and thank you.
Yes, because of the real messages revealed from this act of nothingness, I feel like dancing in the street too.
I look forward to your next post.

Posted by: Grieved | Apr 14 2018 5:50 utc | 213

@202 “It is unlikely that the opposition could fabricate this volume of media reports on regime chemical weapons use. Such a widespread fabrication would require a highly organized and compartmented campaign to deceive multiple media outlets while evading our detection,”
While. Evading. Our. Detection.
If their own intelligence services are “organizing” this “campaign” then, of course, these activities will “evade detection” because – du’oh – the spooks in the dirty-tricks-department will be very carefully “compartmentalized” from the geeks in the analytical section.
The left hand won’t know what the right hand is doing, even if both are being directed by the same dick-for-brains.
The analytics guys will be getting their information from the same people who are orchestrating the mayhem that they are meant to detect. Junk in guarantees junk out.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Apr 14 2018 6:02 utc | 214

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Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Apr 14 2018 6:04 utc | 215

Doing a quick scan of sources, it seems like most US weapons were intercepted, very few people were impacted, the targets were empty land. The US showed its tactical hand and gained nothing from the exchange. Now the world knows how shitty the old US weapons are compared with modern defenses.
Theresa May attacked a sovereign nation without consulting Parliament, because she knew the vote could go against her – and the nation knows this.
This action,
so swiftly taken,
while its consequences
continue forever,
gently falling…
like tears in rain.

Posted by: Grieved | Apr 14 2018 6:04 utc | 216


If Russia really does have proof that this bombing is a cover-up for a false flag gone bad and it is able to bring it to the world stage, we may see a drastic change is the global lineup of nations aligning against the US/UK/France/Israel/SA/???? axis of EVIL
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 13, 2018 10:44:30 PM | 134

Not much chance of “bringing it to the world stage.” I’ve had the TV tuned to Malcolm Turnbull’s thoroughly Zionised ABC.au “News” for a couple of hours. It’s been a non-stop cavalcade of pro-Israel spin tankers and ‘academics’ spouting anti-Assad drivel direct from Tel Aviv.
ABC is reporting from Jerusalem (for Christ’s sake!!).
Moving images of Putin’s reaction are being broadcast but without audio. So we’re being thoroughly propagandised before the Russia perspective sees the light of day. ABC has repeated several times that “Putin has warned that there will be consequences.”

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 14 2018 6:05 utc | 217

@162, Circe
Because of Russia, Syria is going to survive. Because of Russia, the US and its euro poodles conducted a strike that they knew would have no effect on the outcome of the war in Syria. Because of Russia, much of even that limited attack was stopped by air defenses. Because if Russia, the west was called out in its false flags for the first time ever. What other country is doing more than Russia to restore some rule of law to the world?
Posted by: lysander @ 167
Nice response to the Russia Baiters!
I was wrong (more hopeful) in believing that no strike would occur. I felt that Russia would respond directly and that that knowledge would dissuade the Axis of Inanity. But, Trump being Trump, he could not back down and went ahead anyway. But it is telling how the attack went about.
I am ready to accept the possibility, voiced by some, that Trump is essentially a boorish, narcissistic hooligan; but part of me also clings to the hope that his pre-Presidential stance on international issues reflects his actual view and that he is acting a role right now to thwart his attackers. I don’t know.
The only thing I know is that this attack, as reported, did not alter the big picture. If one looks at the big picture, Russia is still winning. To criticize Russia under these circumstances is to be obtuse. Sure, we would all like to see “shock and awe” delivered back at its inventors immediately upon transgression. But maybe there are people wiser and better informed than we are calling the shots.

Posted by: Activist Potato | Apr 14 2018 6:06 utc | 218

b – thanks for the update.. i have been away all day… it would seem the conversation between trump and putin that peter was mentioning earlier, laid out an approach to take the pressure off the warmongers for the time being.. until the next dispatch, that is… meanwhile, so long as they didn’t bomb the douma false flag location, it will be interesting to see what the opcw come up with… i figured that might be one of their first targets…
the evil empire is losing it’s steam, thank god…

Posted by: james | Apr 14 2018 6:09 utc | 219

WJ 211
Given, as reported, that Israel was advised of the forthcoming attack do you not think (given their previous track record) they might just lob a few missiles towards targets that were ‘off limits’ (Russian) just to stir the pot a little? Think about that sunshine.

Posted by: m | Apr 14 2018 6:15 utc | 220

Well north korea need its nuke now.
Absolutely disgusting what just happend,
All the media, all the world support it!?
Its a friggin war of aggression!

Posted by: eric k | Apr 14 2018 6:22 utc | 221

@james, going by Magnier’s latest comments, my earlier take on Trump may still be somewhere near the mark. But at the moment, if I had one of those red buttons that would turn the US into a sheet of glass, I would press it.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Apr 14 2018 6:23 utc | 222

Do you not think (given their previous track record) they might just lob a few missiles towards targets that were ‘off limits’ (Russian) just to stir the pot a little?
No. Because Russia would know immediately (no missiles entered their air defense space at all during the attack) and it would not end well for Israel. At all.

Posted by: WJ | Apr 14 2018 6:26 utc | 223

@221 Peter AU 1
Please don’t press that button. I have plans for the weekend. And who would feed the cats? You would kill them too?

Posted by: Grieved | Apr 14 2018 6:31 utc | 224

You and Beeley may be correct though as there are several reports of a Hezbollah base near Homs being targeted. I could see Israel doing this. Just not a non-prearranged Syrian target much less anything Russian. So I am happy to agree w you.

Posted by: WJ | Apr 14 2018 6:34 utc | 225

Did you guys read the pathetic statement by UN leader?
” Following airstrikes on Damascus, UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres has said that all countries are obliged to ”act consistently” with the UN Charter, noting that the document is ”very clear on these issues.”
Warcrimes by 3 UNSC states have commited warcrimes you dumb US poddle!

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14 2018 6:36 utc | 226

Good doggy Canada…
Trudeau States Support For US-Led Strikes in Syria
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/syria-attack-chemical-weapons-trudeau-1.4619883
“It is clear to Canada that chemical weapons were used and that they were used by the Assad regime.”
– Chrystia Freeland, Minister of Global Affairs Canada

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 14 2018 6:36 utc | 227

Russia: US stopped peace in Syria, attacked the state that have fought terrorism for years!
Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova took to Facebook to condemn the act of aggression, saying, “The capital of a sovereign government, trying for years to survive under terrorist aggression, has been attacked.”
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/04/14/558446/Syria-Russia-United-States

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14 2018 6:38 utc | 228

What daylight was to Dracula, evidence has the same effect on FrUKUSI leaderships. Is there any LAW remaining to be attacked? Regime change is certainly needed, regime liquidation would be preferable.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Apr 14 2018 6:39 utc | 229

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 14, 2018 2:05:10 AM | 216
In the interest of Editorial Hygiene the beginning my last par should read
“Moving images of Putin and Assad are being broadcast…”
not images of Putin’s reaction are being broadcast.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 14 2018 6:41 utc | 230

@Grieved
If the cats were a pretty pattern in the glass, they would not require feeding :). Sounds like the way to go. But being a bit of a soft touch, I’ll hold off.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Apr 14 2018 6:44 utc | 231

For the first time I fully understand the invocation to drinking whiskey at the right hand top of the page

Posted by: tamlin | Apr 14 2018 6:44 utc | 232

Excuse me but this was not a bunch of nothingness to be dancing in the street about. Innocent people are DEAD! The proper human response is to GRIEVE for those robbed of their future everything if you ask me.
And I am with those who are waiting for Israel to commit their next atrocity in Syria as I said before. Because Eugenicists are the least moral people on the planet and the zionists ARE EUGENICISTS. They want nothing less than to sit astride the globe having power over everyone else because by definition they believe themselves to be superior to everyone else. If you are not a zionist, then according to their dangerous delusional creed YOU are their inferior. To them YOU are goyim/cattle. This is the fundamental pillar underpinning the barking mass of misconception they call their world view. Every dirty deed the israeli zionists do traces back to their Eugenics. If this sounds familiar it is precisely because the world has seen this before: the Nazis were Eugenicists, too. Did we tolerate the Nazis? No. The world said NO to Eugenics vile racism once and it’s time to do it again. Before they kill a thousand more Palestinians and/or Syrians would be good. Zionism is of course not to be confused with Judaism; zionism is the Jews worst enemy and zionism MUST be got rid of. Either the zionists repent of their intolerable delusion of superiority or the rest of us are justified in putting them behind bars where they cannot harm us. Or perhaps we should put all those who refuse to renounce Eugenics on a rocket and blast them to the moon so they can realize their dream to rule a globe; win-win! As President Drain-no-swamp says “So much winning!!”
God I am so sick of feeling every needless death.

Posted by: Mother of God! | Apr 14 2018 6:46 utc | 233

OK. Here we have missile strikes against a sovereign Nation based on analleged use of chemical weapons by dubious sources.
It is time to strike the US, UK and France for proven war crimes in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen and Syria.
The only values the West possesses are Fascist. People were stupid enough to believe that the defeat of the Nazis meant the defeat of Fascism. The opposite was the case. The Nazis disappeared (sort of) and Fascism received a wardrobe change and grew deep roots in the West.
Is WW III really the only way to end Fascism once and for all?

Posted by: notheonly1 | Apr 14 2018 6:48 utc | 234

WJ 224
Given the intensity and confusion of this type of situation it was just a thought. I keep an open mind on all possibilities.

Posted by: m | Apr 14 2018 6:48 utc | 235

Waelalrussi is reporting the following official numbers from the SAA:
The #Syria/n AD Forces used the following systems to engage the missiles:
Pantsir-S1/2
Buk-M2E
S-125/S-1252M
SA-8
SA-2
AA guns
And managed to down over 90 missiles from~97
That’s embarrassing for FUKUS if true.

Posted by: WJ | Apr 14 2018 6:54 utc | 236

He is also reporting casualties as numbering only 3 injured civilians at Homs. That is almost unbelievable given that at least two missiles were jammed away from targets into a housing complex.

Posted by: WJ | Apr 14 2018 6:58 utc | 237

b is a tremendous analyst. I really appreciate what he does. But his crystal ball could use some some cleaning.

Posted by: qualtrough | Apr 14 2018 6:59 utc | 238

@206
Hellooo? Guess you didn’t see my post @193 i.e. Hillary is a Zionist witch and Trump is a Zionist bitch (and quisling).

Posted by: Circe | Apr 14 2018 7:04 utc | 239

@214
Besides the history lesson; can you state the significance of copying Trump’s tweet in this context here?

Posted by: Circe | Apr 14 2018 7:09 utc | 240

@Mother of God 232
It is Syrians that are dancing in the streets. They have been at war, in the dirtiest war I have seen or read about, for seven years. I say the dirtiest war, because it has involved a massive pysops against the Syrian population from enemy states.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Apr 14 2018 7:10 utc | 241

So Russia managed to test the Syrian defense system they supplied.
Posted by: jawbone | Apr 13, 2018 10:07:39 PM | 98
RT has a live programme from Syria just interviewing a guy from Pakistan.
Trump (Britain, France) had an ejaculation but Russia now has the moral high ground, is in defense of international law, and will be able to sell their systems to many more countries.

Posted by: somebody | Apr 14 2018 7:13 utc | 242

The F-UK-US stance was: Syria gassed it’s own people. Russian official! stance with proof! was that UK had deliberately staged it to implicate Syria and Russia (and Iran). F-UK-US attacks nevertheless to drown out the proof but belligerent Russia had shown the proof. We all know UNSC will turn out to be nothing but a cheap theater show as it’s managed by F-UK-US and the Russians are fully aware of that. Magnier was able to tell what he saw, that’s nice but that still doesn’t tell what exactly was hit nor who and how many got killed. Russia’s red line was no Russian service men (or diplomats) get killed. There was also the hazy red line where Syria doesn’t get attacked in reference to previous unmerited assaults. I doubt Russia will be willing to hide or downplay it’s casualties, especially after that CIA ogre was gloating about dead Russians in eastern Syria so the Russians know exactly that even if they would hide it to prevent even further escalation, it would come out later on to redicule it. Russia’s response would be to take out the launchers which were probably submarines but even if they’re hiding under water in let’s say Greek territorial waters it’s really doubtful that Russia will not resort to a military response. When I read that Trump supposedly limited the attack which supposedly was a wise decision I can but think of the words cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: xor | Apr 14 2018 7:13 utc | 243

b is a tremendous analyst. I really appreciate what he does. But his crystal ball could use some some cleaning.
Unfortunately yes but he wasnt alone,
The nonsense some few of us here tried to point out came true:
* Russia would attack – They didnt
* WW3 was about to come – it didnt
* The war wasnt rejected – it came – hard
* Mattis wasnt a peace-dove while Trump was the hawk
I hope this will be a lesson for everyone not to speak so confidently next time..

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14 2018 7:14 utc | 244

To add to post 245 and the dirtiest war – The zombie armies used against Syria – ISIS, al Qaeda takfiri’s, zombies inserted, Syrians turned into zombies by the wahhabi clerics and the western pysops working in conjunction.
Syrians have withstood all that. They have mourned their dead, will continue to do so for some time, but they have survived and have a right to dance in the streets.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Apr 14 2018 7:17 utc | 245

Best analysis is from Craig Murray.

Posted by: somebody | Apr 14 2018 7:19 utc | 247

Disgusting behaviour by Russia, apparently the S400 wasnt even “ON” and they could have moved those the places where the bombings most likely would have occured. But this is Russia, they wont do anything to help “friends” when its about to burn, probably tell us how weak Russia is military/Politically. They cant do anything
RT report:”Russia did not deploy its air defense systems located in Syria to intercept the American, British, and French missiles.
Earlier, the ministry issued a statement saying that none of the missiles launched by the US and its allies reached the Russian air defense zones that shield facilities in the port city of Tartus and Khmeimim Air Base.”

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14 2018 7:20 utc | 248

Nasser Atta @nasseratta5 31m
Syrian army statement says “ 110 missile targeted syria early morning , many were dealt with and did not reach its target and some hit the research center near Damascuss, there was martial damage , but non was killed”

President Assad arrives at his workplace – vid.
McCain and Schumer made approving statements on Twitter. They seemed satisfied and are now off Trumps back on this issue. That was the sole purposes of the otherwise sorry affair.

Posted by: b | Apr 14 2018 7:22 utc | 249

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14, 2018 3:14:58 AM | 245
Yep, the stupidity of “the West’s” policies is always surprising.
Basically they depend on Russia’s and Iran’s rationality and rely on Saudi Arabia’s stability.

Posted by: somebody | Apr 14 2018 7:29 utc | 250

You cant make this up,
EU to consider fresh sanctions on Syria – report
https://www.rt.com/newsline/424062-eu-syria-sanctions-ministers/
These people are f*king disgusting.

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14 2018 7:38 utc | 251

b 250
thanks b. Looks like Trump rode his Dr Strangelove missile again and the drunken lynch mob cheers and says he looks very presidential.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Apr 14 2018 7:40 utc | 252

Peter AU 1
Matter of fact Mueller could charge this moron with whatever now, but I guess the Mueller will end the investigation now when Trump have bombed Syria and threatened Russia – just like neocons always wanted. Prepare for liberal media to hail Trump coming days, weeks now.Forever?

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14 2018 7:47 utc | 253

Anon, grow up. US were after readings on Russian systems. Russia has not put its S-400 nor its S-300 hundred into action in Syria and US does not know how to counter them. The Russian sytems will be saved for if their is a determined attack by the US.
The upgraded Syrian systems plus the pantsirs seem to have done a good job on this limited attack.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Apr 14 2018 7:51 utc | 254

@255 Peter AU,
Funny you should mention the S-300 as the Russian Defense Minister just said in his press briefing on RT that Russia will now reconsider providing “Syria, and other states” with the S-300 in light of the US attack.

Posted by: WJ | Apr 14 2018 8:01 utc | 255

Peter AU1
That makes no sense, if “US does not know how to counter them. ” as you claim then Russia could have easily shot down those missiles.
Next time Trump bomb he will of course escalate even further and bomb Assad, then the S400 will be useless anyway and your argument will look really stupid.

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14 2018 8:02 utc | 256

@216
I see I got crickets from you.
Trump shows he cares only about the Jews that were slaughtered but not even one crocodile tear for the millions more Russians and others who were slaughtered by the Nazis as well.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 14 2018 8:05 utc | 257

@Anon257,
The point I think is that you don’t want to give them the chance to study them in field if you don’t have to. Russia didn’t have to use them here. So it wisely didn’t.

Posted by: WJ | Apr 14 2018 8:07 utc | 258

Russian defence ministry on RT now. Roughly 65-75% missiles intercepted. Emphasis on NO Russian systems used, only SAA S200. Now considering speeding up delivery of S300 systems to Syria and “other partners”. If these intercept numbers are true – thats a major blow to FUKUS and thier plans. Russian ministry also says there was NO French participation.

Posted by: BillyfaeFife | Apr 14 2018 8:12 utc | 259

WJ 259
Well if there is ANY time you want to check how well your weapons-system work is when 1. they are not on your soil and 2. you are not directly attacked, That is the exact situation that occured now.
Any way does anyone know if this was only US attacking or did France/UK also attacked? Or are those attacks still to come?

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14 2018 8:17 utc | 260

Trump’s concern for child victims of war doesn’t extend to Yemeni children dying every day at the hands of that Animal MbS he courted in the Oval Orifice of the Empire. Trump’s hypocrisy: these children in Yemen and Gaza can be slaughtered for the Empire’s interests and those children slaughtered in Syria are tools for the Empire’s concern propaganda and tools for carrying out more and greater injustice. Trump compassion.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 14 2018 8:23 utc | 261

WJ 256
I am hoping we will start to see Russian tech joined to Chinese manufacturing power to pump out a lot of these systems so small countries can defend themselves.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Apr 14 2018 8:28 utc | 262

There is a large concentration of naval and aerial forces in the Eastern Mediterranean, far more than were required to administer last night’s slap on the wrist to Assad. The Pentagon declared it was a ‘one-off strike’ to serve as a warning, apparently to save face after all the preparations and bellicose rhetoric, but the Truman Carrier Group is still underway to the region. Why raise the stakes, and escalate the situation? Perhaps the real target is not Syria, but Iran? Or would it be inconceivable for the US naval forces, including submarines, to pass the straits and enter the Black Sea to confront Russia more directly? I submit that a false flag attack that can be blamed on Iran would indicate the former, while ‘developments’ in Ukraine could lead us to the latter nightmare scenario. In any event, Erdogan will have to go, in order to be replaced by ‘our man’ Fetullah Gulen, who will be able to accept an autonomous Kurdish region, keep Turkey in NATO orbit, and act as bulwark to expanding Russian and Iranian influence in the region. What do you think b?

Posted by: SPYRIDON POLITIS | Apr 14 2018 8:31 utc | 263

I live in Australia, originally from Hungary, an ex communist country. The ABC’s coverage of the events were a worse propaganda than I have ever witnessed in Hungary. When I came here 30 years ago, I though I will hear both sides of the story. How wrong I was.
My father had listened to Radio Free Europe, I listen to RT. How things have changed.

Posted by: Peter Schmidt | Apr 14 2018 8:42 utc | 264

France just started a desinformation campaign:
French Intel Alleges Syria Hiding Chemical Weapons Since 2013 – Report
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201804141063548921-france-syria-intelligence-chemical-weapons/

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14 2018 8:42 utc | 265

>>>>> | Apr 13, 2018 10:29:06 PM | 125

When exactly do we see the “very grave consequenxes” that Russia very publicly warned about?

When Trump, May and Macron leave office and Assad is still sat in the Qasr ash-Shaab in Damascus.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 14 2018 8:43 utc | 266

@265 Peter Schmidt. The saddest idea of all in the former soviet bloc is the idea that The West was somehow better. We could have told you 28 years ago

Posted by: JakeS | Apr 14 2018 8:51 utc | 267

You are being too optimistic, b!
US/UK/Fr (House of Saud sponsors) have just tested Russian weaponry and at the same time made fun of Russia…
These are indeed sad times and we must expect more strikes as deemed useful by those rogue states because somehow Russia is holding back in defense…

Posted by: Ana Q | Apr 14 2018 8:51 utc | 268

So far the only casualties I heard of were 3 injured in the Homs attack.
If that is so it means that this air-strike was feebler than last year’s.
3 buffoons joined together to make a little more rubble in Syria with very expensive (and quite ineffective) rubble making toys, just to get presstitutes to talk about how righteous and valiant they are instead of talking of real whores, brexit disasters or a nation on strike.
We do need a new Nuremberg…

Posted by: estouxim | Apr 14 2018 8:52 utc | 269

Several people tonight are chagrined because Putin/Moscow has not responded immediately. I think responding later, even much later, may well be best.
I agree. Give the world some time to realize the utter illegality of the attack. Let everyone realize how close we all came to dying. Then arrest the criminals, with the full support of the world.

Posted by: Cyril | Apr 14 2018 8:52 utc | 270

Oops, I forgot to specify to whom I was responding. Here’s another try….
@nyc 142
Several people tonight are chagrined because Putin/Moscow has not responded immediately. I think responding later, even much later, may well be best.
I agree. Give the world some time to realize the utter illegality of the attack. Let everyone realize how close we all came to dying. Then arrest the criminals.

Posted by: Cyril | Apr 14 2018 8:55 utc | 271

I just watched the Mattis/Dunford press conference and could not believe that they categorically stated that this was a one-off strike i.e. unless there is retaliation from the Syrians/Iranians/Russians then their will be no further air strikes.
Think about it.
Think about it.
Think about it.
The OPCW inspectors are now in Damascus, and the Russians are now in complete control on the ground and are categorically guaranteeing the safety of the inspectors.
Now that the US military have categorically stated that there is no further threat from the air then there is nothing – absolutely nothing – that can be used to prevent those inspectors from conducting their investigation.
By comparison, if Mattis and/or Dunford had simply said that “all options remain on the table” then the OPCW would remain susceptible to pressure to put a leash on those inspectors because – du’oh – so long as “all options remain on the table” then nobody can “guarantee their safety”.
This is a major blunder by the top brass in the Pentagon – it means that the OPCW inspectors face no barrier to their investigation, which will surely reveal that no chemical weapon attack ever took place.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Apr 14 2018 9:05 utc | 272

Anon @227/261:
Act consistently?   In other words, the US can continue whatever they’ve been doing for past decades.   IMO, the UNSG just wrote a blank check for further attacks.
The last I read, the Brits used four fighters during the attack.   No idea about the French.

Posted by: Ian | Apr 14 2018 9:07 utc | 273

Ian
Yeah, could you imagine the same UN leader say that if it was Russia, Syria, Iran that sent bombers to bomb Israel for their child killings past weeks?

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14 2018 9:15 utc | 274

So the US military saved itself a bloody nose by throwing in towel shaped missiles.
The question now is, how fast would the SAA now move towards its next target? Al-tanf?

Posted by: meme | Apr 14 2018 9:21 utc | 275

@265 Peter Schmidt
I too am Australian and have looked to news “from the other side” to try and get a balanced view of what is going on in the world. I’m a patriotic Aussie, but sometimes our foreign policy disappoints me. Hopefully this episode doesn’t run on for too long, although I feel that Russia must do something symbolic to balance the books. Please let the Yankees leave it at that for the time being. It’s nice to know that I’m not the only Aussie here.

Posted by: trepidacious | Apr 14 2018 9:24 utc | 276

Strike on Syria is why North Korea NEED nukes
http://www.kpax.com/story/37951314/trumps-syria-threats-are-exactly-why-north-korea-wants-nuclear-weapons

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14 2018 9:27 utc | 277

Re: “[Update April 14, 5:00 UCT]”
And the measured Russian response seems to be:
(a) call an emergency UN pow-wow and ink some more words in the history books; and
(b) agree to upgrade Assad to S300 (perhaps S200 stocks are getting low?).
Putin will use the ropes on the dopes for another round until his World Cup is finished. Then, with China signed on (and looking at progress with Taiwan and Korean unification), if the insanity does not calm down WW3 may well be back on the programme.

Posted by: imo | Apr 14 2018 9:42 utc | 278

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Apr 14, 2018 5:05:45 AM | 273
To me it says the May and Trump governments are on the ropes. I guess that’s the pressure of your lawyer going into custody and fake nerve agent story being found out. Really good going that… pounding a lot of sand on the back of fairytales. Sand. Haha, weak. Same shit a year on. The downing of 21st Century Wire, Fort Russ etc says as much as Tucker Carlson on Fox news and Jeff Sachs on CSNBC spouting the whole truth on Syria – the dark reasons behind the Syrian war are being well exposed and need to be hidden by….by…goddamit fire a missile or something…!

Posted by: MadMax2 | Apr 14 2018 9:44 utc | 279

Why should we trust these “OPCW inspectors”? Are they pure and clean, unlike everybody else?
This whole thing is absurd. “Chemical weapons” my butt. It’s better to get hit by a hellfire missile than to get hit with chemicals? The later victims are more dead?

Posted by: blues | Apr 14 2018 9:46 utc | 280

Could we expect the collusion/trump hysteria will die now? after all this is what the neocons wanted, a fight with syria and its allied Russia,
this trump/russia thing has been a mayor desinfo, psyop campaign no doubt to initiate what we saw in Syria.

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14 2018 9:51 utc | 281

@281:
Well, your death is instant if a Hellfire lands on your head. It’s a painful end with chemicals.

Posted by: Ian | Apr 14 2018 9:55 utc | 282

The west has established the chemical rationale ad infinitum…..this will be their excuse for the never ending attacks on Syria…the bastards!!!

Posted by: notlurking | Apr 14 2018 10:17 utc | 283

No it won’t die down, it just inflames the ghouls further. They revel in their power over the mainstream media, and in their seeming ability to use evidence-free disloyalty accusations and false flags to force Trump to bomb and kill the innocent. But there is much more killing to be done, on a much bigger scale.

Posted by: fairleft | Apr 14 2018 10:19 utc | 284

Sorry, 285 above was a response to #282.

Posted by: fairleft | Apr 14 2018 10:21 utc | 285

>> Ian | Apr 14, 2018 5:55:08 AM | 283
Who says the hellfire is guaranteed to land right on your head? Might not the hellfire missile land a bit to the left or right of your wedding party. Dying from half your body roasted is easy?

Posted by: blues | Apr 14 2018 10:23 utc | 286

Bill @ 46 Yulia wont be going to the Russian embassy. She has defected IMHO. She will turn up soon in New Caledonia or Australia. She has agreed to walk us all to the edge of destruction. Such is the price for her ‘escape’ from Russia. Please be sensitive and respect her privacy while she recovers from her ordeal.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 14 2018 10:47 utc | 287

China’s pathetic response:
China ‘opposes’ Syria attack, Iraq urges clear Arab stance
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/04/14/558474/Syria-China-Iraq
Well its the same country that sold out North Korea that of course also will be bombed sooner or later:
Pompeo says he could imagine a ground invasion of North Korea
https://www.axios.com/what-did-pompeo-say-about-north-korea-iran-russia-on-the-hill-confirmation-hearing-2f847e2f-a8ff-4e7a-91bf-8e5d028211fc.html
World is clearly f*cked since there i no one that stand up to this madness.

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14 2018 10:54 utc | 288

Thirdeye 166
‘Per @Partisangirl the attack was halted shortly after Russian jets went airborne. Inconsistent accounts on whether they were on an intercept path or headed towards Al Tanf.’
Excellent question.
It has a ring of truth.
I would have carpet bombed the USA terrorist training camps there as No1 target had I been Russia and had wanted to return fire.

Posted by: Emily | Apr 14 2018 10:58 utc | 289

I don’t think the attacks are finished. Mattis said this is not the end of the response, there will be more false flags to come unfortunately. I hope I am wrong.

Posted by: Bill | Apr 14 2018 11:03 utc | 290

Well, clearly, Bolton was hired on as a sort of temporary “consultant”. All the blame will go to Bolton, and then Trump fires him, and he becomes a literal scape goat.
What could be more obvious?

Posted by: blues | Apr 14 2018 11:07 utc | 291

@ 281,
What if the hellfire just lands in your building and you die slowly, crushed under the rubble? Or it sets fire and you burn to death? Chemical weapons are not nearly as damaging as conventional. It’s why no one uses them.

Posted by: lysander | Apr 14 2018 11:13 utc | 292

So now Trump can sack Sessions, Rosenstein and Mueller plus go after Clinton Foundation, plus prosecute the Awan brothers and Debbie Wasserman Shultz. Yeah well I wont hold my breath on any of the above. This goy is a klutz.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 14 2018 11:19 utc | 293

blues @287:
True. But wouldn’t the pressure wave knock you unconscious?
@292:
Interesting theory. Noticed the OPCW inspection will continue. They could come up with a report that Trump could use to nail Bolton to the wall. BUT, I doubt it. Trump, himself, is done as he lost a significant portion of his supporters after this attack.
Anon @289:
How has China sold out North Korea? Both North and South Korea clearly stated what they want during the Winter Olympics. And Kim’s first foreign visit was to China to meet with Xi.

Posted by: Ian | Apr 14 2018 11:21 utc | 294

>> Ian | Apr 14, 2018 7:21:34 AM | 295
I guess those hellfire missiles are very humane, since they just only kill people or leave them completely unharmed. What an amazing technological advance! /s

Posted by: blues | Apr 14 2018 11:25 utc | 295

There still isn’t info available on the casualties or damage which is worrysome. 3 Deaths and some destroyed buildings sounds like an intermediary report for people to swallow, to keep morale up. I think this night will be decive. If the main Russian red line was crossed, a response would occur unancounced and at night as do most military attacks. If everything remains calm we can be a bit more confident for now that on a short term, supra middle eastern escalation has waned. That would mean the Russian respons will be limited to providing S-300 (resulting in a no fly zone (not the newspeak one)), the attack would indeed have been meaningless and Mattis will get fired soon like b said.

Posted by: xor | Apr 14 2018 11:29 utc | 296

I remain sad about this moment and our immediate future. Yes, just one more escalation closer to a serious blunder when events take on that life of their own, that.has happened consistently throughout the ages. It’s tough to celebrate. I could “dread,” perhaps.
You grow older, even examining as many justifications behind this aggression as you can, it becomes increasingly difficult to attribute any kind of “actual intelligence,” to these “clever” conniving sorts. I wonder how previous generations of observers felt. This is decades (centuries) in “progress.” The past is prologue.

Posted by: Geoff | Apr 14 2018 11:33 utc | 297

Ian
China is following the neocon agenda on North Korea, havent protected NK one bit past years. “Little rocket man” will need nuclear weapons ohterwhise China will have Trump its neighbour sooner or later.

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14 2018 11:33 utc | 298

typo, I meant: “ohterwhise China will have Trump BOMB its neighbour sooner or later.”

Posted by: Anon | Apr 14 2018 11:33 utc | 299

>> Anon | Apr 14, 2018 7:33:51 AM | 300
Yeah this is really gonna make North Korea rush to give up their nukes. /s

Posted by: blues | Apr 14 2018 11:37 utc | 300