thanks b!
the full interview with putin and megan kelly.. emptywheel has also written a piece on it going over the minutiae.. i swear these folks can’t see the forest for the trees..

Posted by: james | Mar 11 2018 20:29 utc | 3

Maybe that one
Http s://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora_(social_network)

Posted by: Mina | Mar 11 2018 22:33 utc | 5

@5 Interesting Mina, have you tried it?

Posted by: Lozion | Mar 11 2018 23:18 utc | 7

This is a comment I wrote for the Korea thread below but by the time it was completed it looked like the thread was almost dead. The point is that a president outsider once before tried to solve the Korea problem.
Jimmy Carter in 1977 announced his intention to withdraw US forces and nuclear weapons from Korea. That did not go to far. The reasons for Carter’s failure might be interesting to consider. The following is from the abstract of an article in Diplomatic History published in 2017:
Jimmy Carter had a difficult time realizing his pledge to withdraw American ground troops from South Korea because of opposition from the U.S. Congress and insubordination among U.S. Army officials. Otherwise, Seoul did not disagree with the U.S. president in an ostensible manner. However, newly found evidence indicates that the South Korean leadership encouraged the split between the U.S. executive and legislature, the U.S. Army’s resistance toward its president, and criticism from Japan, another important diplomatic partner of Washington. This article highlights how various groups opposing American troop withdrawals undermined the president’s rationale for removing forces from South Korea.
Hopefully Trump is better positioned to pull this off today. First he has the backing of President Moon and doesn’t have to worry about about Korea’s president sabotaging the effort behind the scenes. So far Abe of Japan has remained quiet. Also, China is in a much, much stronger position to provide diplomatic and political support.
So which deep state players will work to undermine this effort? Hopefully, given that Trump has filled his Administration with Generals, he might not have to deal with insubordination from the military. I guess the biggest threat to making peace in Korea inside the US government will come from the intelligence agencies. Then, of course, the ubiquitous neocons scattered throughout the government and mass media will be working overtime to undermine any deals. The latter put Trump in such a tight box with Russiagate that it was impossible for Trump to improve relations with Russia. However right now, there is no way that anyone can accuse Trump of being Kim’s puppet. Or that Kim was responsible for Hillary’s defeat. This might mean the masses of deranged Democrats may not try to block efforts for peace in Korea. Let us all realize that it these masses of deranged Democrats that are keeping Russiagate alive.

Posted by: ToivoS | Mar 12 2018 2:52 utc | 9

Am I the only one who after seeing some particularly egregious meeting between reality and amorality, makes a mental note to write about it next MoA open thread, only to discover that come OT day, the mental note has erased itself or more likely, that the act which seemed so egregious just 3 days before is a mere bagatelle in comparison to what has happened since?
I suspect not this is the world we inhabit, one where every horror story is inevitably and rapidly superseded by 5 others.
No Bernard I’m not making a play for a continuous open thread. There are any number of reasons why that would be a bad idea, not leat among them that just as the acts by pols get awful, so do the hateposts from the sads.
Which reminds me that MoAites should reach around and pat themselves on the back for another week where everyone decided for themselves to force back the bile rising in their gorge due to posts by moronically feeble hasbara trolls and just ignore something that is only worthy of being scraped off their shoes at their door.
The issue which I do remember I had considered worthy of comment was the stunningly inhumane act of englander PM Terri the towel May, who during the visit by kidnapper, robber, racist and war crim MbS, announced that she had negotiated a sale of more than 40 ‘eurofighters’ to Saudi. Presumably all the better to kill Yemeni schoolchildren.
The hypocrisy is astounding the same filthy mouth which has been disparaging the Syrian government for taking action against the takfiri who have been shelling Damascus suburbs for 4 years on the basis of white helmet staged warporn, because she reckons children are being hurt, sells wartools to a mob of gangsters whose crimes against children are proven facts not takfiri generated, media enabled bulldust.
But then I remembered that Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and Dave ‘the pig-fucker’ Cameron also made noises about ‘cinching this deal’ when they too were apprehended kissing Saudi butt.
The ninnies are wittingly or unwittingly being strung along. Plus of course it is tough to see the englanders turning a quid from eurofighter sales once brexit gets up.
Plus the same nonsense happens in DC whenever the comtemporaneous prez needs to have a face to face with the financiers of 911. The amerikan deal is, if that were possible, even less believable than the englander one, since it is alleged that the saudi have committed more than $100 Billion for a chunk of vaporware that is unlikely to see the light of day in its promised form.
Now that is a good thing except circumstances being as described, it is inevitable that whatever cover story/pretext USuk does settle upon to explain their theft of billions from the Shia clans of Eastern Saudi who own the land where the rigs are sucking up oil like a $2 whore on payday, is likely to be something much worse than selling Saudi the means to lose a war.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 12 2018 4:42 utc | 11

I did in fact watch the entire Putin/Kelly interview; in which Putin said “So What?” 9 times.
Definitely NOT impressed by Kelly.
Putin was his usual, informed, confident, and patient self.
Looking at the corporate news, post interview; it’s clear the U.S. is in denial and still failing to listen to Russia/Putin.
Classic deluded ignorance and stupidity; some things just don’t change…

Posted by: V. Arnold | Mar 12 2018 6:35 utc | 13

Turkish millionaires’ daughters gettin wild in Dubai…
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/292614/World/Region/Iran-recovers-black-box-from-crashed-plane-carryin.aspx

Posted by: Mina | Mar 12 2018 11:07 utc | 15

As usual, the (interesting) survey of Churchill’s crimes omits any mention of his collusion with (instigation of?) Canada’s attack on indigenous nations after WWI. He bullied/threatened League of Nations members which supported the bid for national recognition made by the Haudenausaunee (Iroquois Confederacy) — which met all of the League of Nation’s membership criteria — and fostered Canada’s bid — which met few of the criteria, but which was desired by the crown because, NOT being an “independent” nation, Canada would vote the way England told them to vote. Canada’s violent removal of traditional governments and imposition of comprador colonial puppet-governments dates from Churchill’s tenure at the colonial office. As usual (yes, I know I’m being repetitive), crimes against the indigenous peoples of North America seem to be of no consequence to most people. However, those of us who have had to live with the consequences remember them.

Posted by: Roland Chrisjohn | Mar 12 2018 13:54 utc | 17

Has the Tharoor piece on Churchill appeared in the print WaPo? I’m a subscriber, and I have not noticed it there.

Posted by: lysias | Mar 12 2018 14:20 utc | 19

Noirette @20
What do you make of the QAnon phenomenon?
My take: it is similar to the Obamabots promising good things to come. Those ‘good things’ never came, of course.
Further proof, IMHO, that Trump is the Republican Obama. The play book is the same.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Mar 12 2018 15:28 utc | 21

In his March 9th show (thanks ben@2!), Jimmy Dore talks about how Obama’s has continued his neoliberal ways after leaving office. Obama was NOT forced into neoliberal positions by terrible Repugs like his Obamabot apologists claimed repeatedly.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Mar 12 2018 15:34 utc | 23

V. Arnold
The interview was amazing . A must-see.
Views on how well Kelly did vary and I think that it generally depends on what one thinks of Putin and what one’s cultural background is.
They both made important points.
I give her credit for conducting a real interview – in contrast to, for example, Maria Bartiromo who fawns over powerful men (Trump was interview by Bartiromo). And I give him credit for his willingness to be interview by a Western MSM reporter.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Mar 12 2018 15:46 utc | 25

@22 christian.. i agree with you..
@v. arnold / jackrabbit… i read the full transcript that i posted @3.. i don’t like watching videos, but i could learn from seeing the body language… putin is now being accused of anti-semitism, based on this line ““Maybe they’re not even Russians,” he said. “Maybe they’re Ukrainians, Tatars, Jews, just with Russian citizenship. Even that needs to be checked. Maybe they have dual citizenship. Or maybe a green card. Maybe it was the Americans who paid them for this work. How do you know? I don’t know.”
that is grounds for anti-semitism in the western msm… go figure..
meanwhile that witch haley retard is saying they don’t need the un, in order to bomb the shit out of syria…they are getting tired of waiting for the ””right”” outcome…
and in a switch up, russia is accusing those lovely moderate headchoppers the west loves to support, as using chemicals on the people of ghouta.. “Al-Nusra terrorists used chlorine chemicals in Eastern Ghouta – Russian envoy to UN”

Posted by: james | Mar 12 2018 16:44 utc | 27

@ 28
Megyn Kelly – NOT Meagan Kelly ~ my very bad, see what assumptions can do.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Mar 12 2018 17:00 utc | 29

more loopy demands and crazy shit from the uk duo – may / boris..
“”Either this was a direct act by the Russian State against our country, or the Russian government lost control of this potentially catastrophically damaging nerve agent and allowed it to get into the hands of others.”
She added that Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, summoned the Russian ambassador to the foreign office on Monday. He said Russia must explain which of the two possible explanations is the correct one. She says the ambassador must reply by the end of Tuesday.”

Posted by: james | Mar 12 2018 17:36 utc | 31

Breaking: UK give Russia 36hrs to answer why they murdered the agent or UK will make a response

Posted by: Anon | Mar 12 2018 17:54 utc | 33

@jr – what did you learn from the body language?

Posted by: james | Mar 12 2018 17:58 utc | 35

@ james | 31
“Either this was a direct act by the Russian State against our country, or the Russian government lost control of this potentially catastrophically damaging nerve agent and allowed it to get into the hands of others.”
__________________________________________
No more Mister Nice Guy! Presumably Boris will inform the Russian ambassador that he will not be allowed to leave the Foreign Office until he honestly answers a simple question: Is Putin still beating his wife?

Posted by: Ort | Mar 12 2018 19:10 utc | 37

So Russia is not the only source for Novchok (apart from Russia) – and guess which other country has access to it? ]
From wikipedia entry on Novchok:
One of the key manufacturing sites was the Soviet State Scientific Research Institute for Organic Chemistry and Technology (GosNIIOKhT) in Nukus, Uzbekistan… Since its independence in 1991, Uzbekistan has been working with the government of the United States to dismantle and decontaminate the sites where the Novichok agents and other chemical weapons were tested and developed.

Posted by: Still_Learning | Mar 12 2018 19:19 utc | 39

Institute for War and Peace Reporting https://iwpr.net/about
Legit or front? Thanks
(Tried sourcewatch, but they’re very scanty and outdated on this one.)

Posted by: Petra | Mar 12 2018 19:20 utc | 41

Lozion@40… No that’s not what I was trying to say. Twitter and FB can still be used to pass valid information… once the algorithmic thresh hold is reached tho all bets are off…..same with any new app…If things got real bad for TPTB it would all just get taken down…I would like to think that you and other’s with these valid concerns would have more analog (so to speak) methods of information transfer amongst yourselves and from there to a greater audience. An opponent that relies on technology is rather susceptible to the lack of technology, no? Being able to have comms above and beyond the regular or standard should be priority for all citizens of any counry

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Mar 12 2018 19:45 utc | 43

Jackrabbit you are seeing an edited version of the Megyn / Putin exchange.
I watched the first interview, I have watched numerous interviews conducted by Megyn Kelly as well as Putin’s marathon interview w/Stone and see that Putin exposes himself to annual hours long interviews in their version of ‘state of the union’. Putin is not sheltered. The term ‘mansplainin’ works both ways, you could say that Megyn was ‘mansplainin’ to Putin about how he is wrong to deny Russian interference because the CIA and now the FBI has a detailed indictment on the issue (one that they believe they will never have to defend in Court). So tut-tut Mr. Putin, I just informed you that you did interfere, so if you deny it I will simply repeat the accusation again, and again.
Rudeness is a matter of perception, so it’s pointless to say who was more rude. All I’ll say on the matter is that the confrontational style interview frequently makes the subject defensive and shuts down exchanges. So if you just want to here someone tell Putin off then the interview was a pleasure but nothing was learned.
Putin has been looking to endorse a successor since 2000, so what? In Stone’s interview, he got him to admit that he’s a bit of a micro-manager who can’t bring himself to delegate and retire. That is a flaw, I just hope a raving nationalist doesn’t succeed him.

Posted by: Christian Chuba | Mar 12 2018 20:35 utc | 45

Christian Chuba
I saw the full unedited 1 hr 28 min double interview (2 sittings).
She didn’t say he was wrong to deny Russian interference. She pressed him on why he wouldn’t do anything to prevent it.
“Pointless to say who was more rude.”
I didn’t think Putin was rude. The interruptions were (and Kelly immediately apologized). Also, I didn’t think Kelly was confrontational, just persistent about sensitive matters (IMO not rude in the context of an interview).
“Nothing was learned.”
There is a propaganda war going on. This interview was about breaking or reinforcing propaganda narratives. So it is not meaningless, even if “nothing was learned.” The interviews are a means for Putin to push back the warmongers that seek to demonize him.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Mar 12 2018 21:48 utc | 47

@41 Petra
I thought I had something bookmarked about the Institute of War and Peace but couldn’t find it. Couple of huge warning flags are:
1. The following statement on their site:

“IWPR fills a critical gap by helping local journalists to focus on human rights and justice issues. In the process, it contributes to democratic transitions, and demonstrates that the best war reporting is not about military conflict, but human consequences.”
Samantha Power
United States Ambassador to the United Nations

2. They retweeted a White Helmets tweet.

Posted by: Tobin Paz | Mar 13 2018 1:23 utc | 49

@37 ort.. the fact that boris represents the uk in any way, must be a real embarrassment to people of the uk!! i saw a picture earlier today of the uk parliament with may and a bunch of wax looking replicas of the typical boring, goodie two shoes, clean cut guys with ties and women dressed with glum looks on their faces.. not sure what they eat or do for fun in britian, but looking at this picture made me happy to know i am in a world apart of what they have to inhabit…
@38 jr… thanks.. based on what you have said, i think i don’t have to see it! the only thing i might have missed reading the transcript is the pause after he mentions grooming a successor… i picked up his annoyance at her constant repeating of western talking points.. i liked how he said she was impolite! she was! and, based off the transcript she comes across as a bimbo.. i don’t imagine she is, but i thought it fairly obvious he was so far ahead of her, that he didn’t seem to even try to dodge her bullshit.. if any of it had of been relevant, i think he would have responded differently… i am a staunch advocate for reading, as opposed to watching.. i read the full transcript.. i know nothing about megan kelly… i don’t watch tv ever… we are going to have to agree to disagree on the upside or downside to either!
i agree with your comment at the end @49.. that is so true and something that i imagine would be lost on megan kelly as well.. she spoke like the un ambassador nikki haley, or samantha powers before her… they are all accusatory women who come across as having their mind made up, and lacking in any insight or deeper understanding of the possibilities.. they have generally closed minds.. kelly came across this way to me.. she was only curious about what she had already heard and internalized… she was not capable of getting outside of her own cultures perspective to be able to appreciate the strength of a political leader from a different culture speaking with her in a quasi neutral way… frankly, i thought she was out of her depth here and better suited to interviewing some hollywood type… i don’t know what she does regularly, but i wasn’t impressed with her..

Posted by: james | Mar 13 2018 3:13 utc | 51

^^ Tobin Paz #49 ^^
Thank you for that information. (Powers endorsement; White Helmets prop)
Certainly useful pointers as to IWPR provenance / veracity.

Posted by: Petra | Mar 14 2018 5:02 utc | 53