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March 22, 2018
Open Thread 2018-12
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How many Ukrainian POWs and prisoners will Putin have to release to get Savchenko out of jail?
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 22 2018 18:26 utc | 1 Why would Mr Putin care what happens to Nadia Savchenko? Posted by: Tom Welsh | Mar 22 2018 18:34 utc | 2 And so it begins: The Trade War between Trump and China: Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 22 2018 18:43 utc | 3 “Meet The Man Behind Cambridge Analytica, Who Made Trump President” Posted by: ben | Mar 22 2018 18:43 utc | 4 via craig murray – a couple of stories on the parent company of cambridge analytica – scl.. goes right into the top echelon of powers in the uk… Posted by: james | Mar 22 2018 19:03 utc | 5 In light of Craig Murray’s post and the Bella Caledonia article, is this the anglo deep state in plain sight? Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Mar 22 2018 19:15 utc | 6 The Salisbury story has changed again – Posted by: TJ | Mar 22 2018 19:26 utc | 7 NOTAMs have been issued for the eastern Mediterranean relating to significant issues with GPS signals. The Nicosia FIR is the main area affected. The issue has existed for several months, but has increased significantly in the last 48 hours. The problem involves either loss of signal or incorrect position indication. Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 22 2018 19:34 utc | 8 The globalists have been transferring US tech know-how to China, the globalists’ new fav cocoon. A big fight is about to erupt. 20th century-ists (make America great again) vs 21st century-ists (great modern socialist country). Posted by: ConfusedPundit | Mar 22 2018 19:43 utc | 9 USN jamming their own navigation system? Russia operates its own system, GLONASS. USN hiding where their ships are from everyone but the Russians? Russians trolling the USN causing more collisions? That would saves having to sink them. Endless possibilities. Posted by: Tom | Mar 22 2018 19:53 utc | 10 8 Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Mar 22 2018 19:54 utc | 11 So here is the actor Bill Murray with a bit of wisdom about the power of the kids going up against the NRA…and all of us for that matter Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 22 2018 19:55 utc | 12 The Chinese will break Trump’s electoral base (agricultural regions exporting enormous amounts of agra-products to China) before he hurts their steel and aluminum industries. Posted by: Red Ryder | Mar 22 2018 20:05 utc | 13 No collusion between Trump campaign and Kremlin, so investigation being terminated. Apparently, Mueller’s special prosecutor investigation is still alive. Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 22 2018 20:13 utc | 14 Newsbud (an alternative media outlet founded by FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds) recently published a video on their YouTube channel attacking independent journalists Eva Bartlett & Vanessa Beeley. My question is, why? Does Newsbud have reporters on the ground in Syria? Why is the Newsbud video citing sources like Medicins Sans Frontier and Rania Khalek (a limited hangout fake “left” op a la Max Blumenthal and Glenn Greenwald?) Posted by: David | Mar 22 2018 20:36 utc | 15 Could a GPS failure have caused the collisions of U.S. Navy ships off Asia in recent months? Posted by: lysias | Mar 22 2018 21:14 utc | 16 Now is a good time to survey the lay of the land. Posted by: C I eh? | Mar 22 2018 21:29 utc | 18 “This ramps up my suspicion that Edmonds is controlled opposition or disinformation of some sort.” Posted by: Fatima Manoubia | Mar 22 2018 21:38 utc | 19 #4 Posted by: jo6pac | Mar 22 2018 21:55 utc | 21 @18 Here is a Muraselon article as a follow up to your and Meyssan’s post. I sure feel relieved nothing occured this past week. Posted by: Lozion | Mar 22 2018 22:23 utc | 23 Posted by: Lozion | Mar 22 2018 22:24 utc | 24 Tillerson caught red handed in conspiracy to bring harm to the state he was sworn to serve..the US of A. Posted by: Whorin Piece | Mar 22 2018 22:28 utc | 25 Oh no Bolton to replace McMaster.. Drain the swamp by filling it? Posted by: Lozion | Mar 22 2018 22:40 utc | 26 McMaster’s out, war criminal John Bolton to take his place!! Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 22 2018 22:40 utc | 27 Hi TJ, Posted by: cj | Mar 22 2018 22:41 utc | 28 Gareth Porter (today) on Bolton–concluding comment: Posted by: Sid2 | Mar 22 2018 23:07 utc | 29 Breaking News! Posted by: Circe | Mar 22 2018 23:08 utc | 30 Bolton & Trump Trump & Bolton = Crazy & Crazier Posted by: Circe | Mar 22 2018 23:19 utc | 31 John Bolton new National Security Advisor…F–k me we’re all dead, what an arsehole. Posted by: harrylaw | Mar 22 2018 23:22 utc | 32 John Bolton named as national security advisor, the illiterate orange clown is filling the swamp with more filth. Iranians and hezbollah in lebanon better take heed, I fear more americans will die to make israel great again. I wonder what his base of inbreds in flyover country will gin up to rationalize Chump’s latest nomination. Posted by: Augustin L | Mar 22 2018 23:35 utc | 33 would another commenter try to connect to NEO…new eastern outlook… Posted by: oldenyoung | Mar 23 2018 0:02 utc | 34 @34 oldenyoung Posted by: David | Mar 23 2018 0:23 utc | 35 NEO has been unavailable all day. It has been knocked out by a Denial of service attack, similar to that beinmg mounted against Craig Murray. Posted by: bevin | Mar 23 2018 0:48 utc | 37 on a search for why was McMaster fired, this (written prior to) is interesting: Posted by: Sid2 | Mar 23 2018 0:49 utc | 38 This from ZeroHedge… Posted by: Michael | Mar 23 2018 0:51 utc | 39 Circe 30 Posted by: sleepy | Mar 23 2018 1:00 utc | 41 An Imaginary Conversation…. Posted by: Allen | Mar 23 2018 1:02 utc | 42 Jared gets $1B arms deal with the Saudi Wahhabist headchoppers, Jared gets 1% as standard arms deal fee. Now Bolton. Bolton’s sole political experience is as a UN undersecretary, responsible for answering phones, stuffing mail, and setting 4PM tea service. The former UN undersecretary of the teapot is now a top spook. Oh Sweet Jesus Mother Mary, no wonder the market dropped 700!! War with Iran is virtually certain now. Or should I say, virtually bin Salman? Posted by: Chipnik | Mar 23 2018 1:03 utc | 43 @ Allen with the conversation…. Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 23 2018 1:17 utc | 44 Circe Posted by: Jackrabbit | Mar 23 2018 1:20 utc | 45 Let’s get over the McMaster ouster. The fact is that he was completely unqualified to be the National Security advisor. McMaster was uneducated in history and international politics. McMaster (1) was excellent as an army unit leader and (2) obtained a PhD with a thesis that claimed that the US lost in Vietnam because generals weren’t listened to, which is complete BS. Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 23 2018 1:20 utc | 46 as others have noted, we, I mean the world, is so f*cked Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 23 2018 1:35 utc | 47 I expect that with a more ‘moderate’ voice like Tillerson gone…. & now now with crackpots like Pompeo, Haley, Bolton and some of the other generals still around, that we will have a military confrontation and escalation with Russia, starting in all likelihood over something in Syria Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 23 2018 1:43 utc | 48 Very interesting. Where I can read more about how money works? Posted by: jinvo | Mar 23 2018 1:45 utc | 49 Don Bacon Posted by: Jackrabbit | Mar 23 2018 1:45 utc | 50 Why is Trump making nice with Russia?
And then besides hypersonic missiles there are from Russia Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 23 2018 1:45 utc | 51 @42 Allen Posted by: jinvo | Mar 23 2018 1:47 utc | 52 @46 Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 23 2018 1:47 utc | 53 @42 Allen Posted by: Grieved | Mar 23 2018 1:55 utc | 54 @jr 49 Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 23 2018 1:57 utc | 56 Bevin @ 37: Seconding Sid2 @ 40, thanks very much for the news, Bevin. Posted by: Jen | Mar 23 2018 2:01 utc | 57 Petri, I read the BBC article on “war hero” Savchenko’s arrest in Ukraine, and it somehow failed to mention that she had just revealed in a foreign TV news interview that the snipers at Maidan were brought in by the “pro-democracy peaceful protesters.” Posted by: Daniel | Mar 23 2018 2:04 utc | 58 usa daily propaganda briefings… Posted by: james | Mar 23 2018 2:14 utc | 59 David @15. I was just on Sibel Edmonds’ Newsbud Twitter feed and saw a thread that was most interesting. Sibel had posted a screen shot of a post from either Vanessa or Eva (I forgot which), that made it look like she was supporting terrorists. But someone had gone to the source and posted the uncropped shot, and it was someone else defending terrorists, and Eva/Vanessa called them out on it. That is, it was the EXACT OPPOSITE of what Sibel portrayed. Posted by: Daniel | Mar 23 2018 2:16 utc | 60 @45 Don Bacon Posted by: Grieved | Mar 23 2018 2:18 utc | 61 Reuters staff have photographed two people voting twice in the Russian presidential election. Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Mar 23 2018 2:31 utc | 62 May has declared that there is no pausible alternate explanation for the Skirpal attack other than that Russia has done it. Posted by: Sushi | Mar 23 2018 2:52 utc | 63 Grieved: “Power is the ability to force things to your will, and it’s backed up by a gun or it fails in the end.” Posted by: Daniel | Mar 23 2018 2:57 utc | 64 @ Grieved 60 Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 23 2018 2:57 utc | 65 MoA is the first place I look for when I wake up (still in bed…) and the last one I check before sleep (already in bed…). Posted by: Permafrost | Mar 23 2018 3:30 utc | 66 How is ineffectual John Bolton going to be any different/worse than bumbling AND ineffectual neocon/JEW McMaster? Deck chairs…this one has a furry fringe skirt on it. Posted by: NemesisCalling | Mar 23 2018 3:31 utc | 67 I don’t know much about nerve agents but I find it strange that the Skripals didnt feel sick enough to seek help while Officer Bailey was sickened after much less exposure and either was overcome or sought help. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Mar 23 2018 3:48 utc | 68 @66 addendum/error Posted by: NemesisCalling | Mar 23 2018 3:59 utc | 69 @ jivno who keeps asking how money works Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 23 2018 4:06 utc | 70 @66 Say what you will about Bolton he is a shrewd political animal. Here it looks as though he is trying to appear sane and reasonable….perhaps even likeable. Posted by: dh | Mar 23 2018 4:13 utc | 71 @69 dh Posted by: NemesisCalling | Mar 23 2018 4:32 utc | 72 Posted by: Daniel | Mar 22, 2018 10:57:09 PM | 63 Posted by: somebody | Mar 23 2018 4:35 utc | 73 The worst thing about the appointment of anti-Iran hawk John Bolton is that the Clinton wing of the Democratic Party 100% supports war with Iran. In fact Hillary was attacking Trump from the war hawk right on this issue in 2016 (of course alienating key voters as she did so). So, just like in 2002 with Iraq, the two-party mainstream and all the mainstream media will be overwhelmed by pro-war voices, and the arguments in favor of peace and basic sanity will be ostracized. Note in the RT piece below that the only Democrats expressing real, concrete concern/revulsion are the usual, sheepdog leftie suspects. Posted by: fairleft | Mar 23 2018 4:37 utc | 74 @70 ‘How could Trump possibly listen to that blowhard?” Posted by: dh | Mar 23 2018 4:43 utc | 75 James, I was asking if USAmericans could get behind mass strikes (and targeted boycotts) in order to begin to take Power away from “the money changers” who control most of this country and the world. Could we endure the inconvenience and unite to “hit them where it hurts?” (Their wallets). Posted by: Daniel | Mar 23 2018 5:01 utc | 76 @59 Daniel Posted by: David | Mar 23 2018 5:03 utc | 77 Some sober look at Londongrad reality from the Independent
Posted by: somebody | Mar 23 2018 5:44 utc | 78 Russian general gives US general some intel. US general gets the word up to Trump. Trump gets Pompeo to investigate and as a result sacks Tillerson. US generals tell Russian generals. Russian generals tell Syrian generals. Syrian generals – or perhaps Russian generals (unlikely) tell french journalist Therry Meyssan. Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Mar 23 2018 6:12 utc | 79 jinvo @48 Posted by: hojo | Mar 23 2018 8:11 utc | 80 PLEASE, IF YOU DO NOTHING ELSE TODAY, READ THIS ARTICLE FROM SEPTEMBER 2005 AND REALISE THAT SCL IS THE PARENT COMPANY OF CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA Posted by: zhanglan | Mar 23 2018 8:53 utc | 81 @Peter AU Posted by: Alexander | Mar 23 2018 8:56 utc | 82 @ 53 Grieved | Mar 22, 2018 9:55:17 PM Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Mar 23 2018 10:22 utc | 83 80 Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Mar 23 2018 11:09 utc | 84 Trump is fooling the neocons> Posted by: Christian Chuba | Mar 23 2018 11:24 utc | 85 Trump is fooling the neocons Posted by: Christian Chuba | Mar 23 2018 11:25 utc | 87 Gunman takes 2 hostage at supermarket in south France claiming allegiance to ISIS. France prosecutors treating supermarket hostage situation as terror incident after gunman shoots at police Posted by: mali | Mar 23 2018 11:44 utc | 88 Petri, I read the BBC article on “war hero” Savchenko’s arrest in Ukraine, and it somehow failed to mention that she had just revealed in a foreign TV news interview that the snipers at Maidan were brought in by the “pro-democracy peaceful protesters.” Posted by: mali | Mar 23 2018 11:57 utc | 89 (Skripal/ Nerve-Agent Saga) BREAKING NEWS: THE BMW DID IT
http://www.gov.uk/government/news/public-health-england-statement-regarding-events-in-salisbury Posted by: cassandra | Mar 23 2018 12:11 utc | 90 @81 Posted by: amfetamine | Mar 23 2018 12:18 utc | 91 Not only does the US protect ISIS in Syria, ISIS online news site Amaq still operates under US protection. Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Mar 23 2018 12:23 utc | 92 How come Porton Down’s experiments on people have gone down the memory hole?
However, of course, only Russia is evil. Posted by: somebody | Mar 23 2018 12:31 utc | 93 add to 91
Duh. Posted by: somebody | Mar 23 2018 12:40 utc | 94 @ 89 amfetamine | Mar 23, 2018 8:18:48 AM Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Mar 23 2018 12:44 utc | 95 I used to read and watch Sibel Edmonds’ writing and talking. The turning point of her change started since the failed coup in Turkey, IMHO. Posted by: mali | Mar 23 2018 12:59 utc | 96 @93 Posted by: amfetamine | Mar 23 2018 12:59 utc | 97 Now the French hostage-taker injured one policeman, uncofirmed 2 death, demanded the release of Salah Abdeslam, the only surviving terrorist suspect behind the Paris attacks, BFMTV said. Abdeslam is currently in prison awaiting trial for his alleged involvement in the 2015 Paris terrorist attacks. Posted by: mali | Mar 23 2018 13:26 utc | 99 In the against the grain category, consider that tensions have eased with Syria, Russia and Korea. Next up, Iran and China. Also of importance Posted by: financial matters | Mar 23 2018 13:47 utc | 100 |
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