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January 16, 2018
Open Thread 2018-03
The post I worked on today is unsatisfying. I'll leave you with your own news & views …
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It’s wonderful to find someone with some humility on the internets. Posted by: ambrit | Jan 16 2018 19:24 utc | 1 this would complicate the syrian conflict even more… Posted by: michaelj72 | Jan 16 2018 19:43 utc | 2 the guy is whacked out… Posted by: james | Jan 16 2018 19:54 utc | 3 Tillerson reverses freeze-for-freeze North Korea policy. Hmmm…maybe China will roll out that oil future contract on Thursday. Posted by: Ian | Jan 16 2018 19:56 utc | 4 @ Ian who wrote: ” Hmmm…maybe China will roll out that oil future contract on Thursday.” Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 16 2018 20:37 utc | 5 The Kissinger Report was the boot camp and jump start for world population control. A program of US Government Coercion to depopulate targeted 3rd world countries while stealing their natural resources. Posted by: John | Jan 16 2018 21:00 utc | 6 Worth keeping an eye on these two developments. Taken together it could mean that any excessive reaction by the US or NATO to Turkish efforts to take Afrin – can be rapidly reacted to. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42711985 Posted by: Mina | Jan 16 2018 22:00 utc | 9 Wouldn’t it be awful if the entire plan to set up an island of trouble in Syria were a put up job between amerika and Turkey to get an invasion force of Turks to occupy North Eastern Syria? Posted by: Debsisdead | Jan 16 2018 22:00 utc | 10 The BBC continues to assert, seems like daily, that Bashar al-Assad is guilty of the massacring his own people (& dropping barrel bombs). From what I have discovered it seems that the Syrian people absolutely adore him & his approval rate is well above 70% (100% for women). Posted by: kweladave | Jan 16 2018 22:06 utc | 11 psychohistorian @7: (re: Behind the scenes) Posted by: Ian | Jan 16 2018 22:06 utc | 12 Hero 2 Posted by: ashley albanese | Jan 16 2018 22:10 utc | 13 @b
Posted by: Den Lille Abe | Jan 16 2018 22:40 utc | 14 I normally would never suggest that people on one blog hop over to another (could cause “cross contamination”) but I trust the folks here, and do believe that all of what I wrote on the other blog (forum, actually) may be of serious interest to the people here. Plus, I am actually trying to start a movement. My (three) topics have “by blues” on the left side next to the empty “speech balloons”. One of the topics, about redistricting, involves a bit of second degree algebra, and another, about proportional representation, involves some very simple “tiling geometry”. The “topic” “Strategic Hedge Simple Score Is The Only Worthwhile Method” is likely to be the most relevant for people here. The forum in which my work appears is at: Posted by: blues | Jan 16 2018 22:46 utc | 15 @13 debs.. yes.. this is the kind of treacherous thinking that erdogan motivates.. hard to know what’s what here.. maybe centcom went off the reserve and trump is letting them do their thing? Posted by: james | Jan 16 2018 22:53 utc | 16 @Debs 13 Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 16 2018 23:28 utc | 17 Plus Turkey has a legitimate gripe. A fellow NATO member (USA) is installing a military force of Turkey’s enemies on Turkey’s border, and NATO won’t do anything about it. Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 16 2018 23:31 utc | 18 Oscar perez was killed yesterday in Venezuela. He was the excop/ special forces who stole a helicopter and bombed the interior ministry. He captured the last minutes of his life on facebook so it is there for everyone to see. Posted by: Garrett | Jan 16 2018 23:37 utc | 19 Re: Posted by: kweladave | Jan 16, 2018 5:06:00 PM | 14 The meeting in Vancouver regarding the nuclear situation in North Korea (DPRK) includes the UN command members involved in the ongoing war, since 1953 under an armistice agreement.
The US has indicated that one principal purpose of the meeting is that it wants to start interdicting ships bound for DPRK including boarding, and wants to get its UN Command allies to agree and participate. Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 17 2018 0:12 utc | 21 Don Bacon @24: Posted by: Ian | Jan 17 2018 0:51 utc | 22 Things have been most unsatisfying for a while … you richly deserve at least a day off! Posted by: Trisha Driscoll | Jan 17 2018 1:25 utc | 23 “Gandhi taught us that a country’s greatness is measured not by its richest, but by how it treats its most vulnerable members. By this measure, the U.S. is a certified shithole.” Posted by: ben | Jan 17 2018 2:04 utc | 24 James…some British guy… ha ha, wrong). By some American guy, bno Bausman. Posted by: Plod | Jan 17 2018 2:06 utc | 25 Btw, I happen to know that bausman and the other (few) on the staff do in fact live in moscow. That in itself does not mean much but it’s not some outfit emanating from the swamp.(@james) Posted by: Plod | Jan 17 2018 2:12 utc | 26 @plod… thanks..news article i read said the guy was from geenwich….. if you say he’s an american – okay.. it seems like a lot of outlets have an agenda.. just what it is at this point, i am not sure.. reminds me of radio free europe and shit like that.. pure propaganda stuff basically… for all i know, they all get their education at langley, or chatham house before setting up shop elsewhere.. Posted by: james | Jan 17 2018 2:45 utc | 27 I am getting the impression that this Turkish “invasion” may be a put up job between the US and Turkey to allow Turkey to establish a permanent base in Syria. Further, the US is saying they have no involvement in the area Turkey is about to invade, it does appear it is part of the Russian managed sector. If so, Turkey carves off a piece of Syria and Russia (as well as Syria)are undermined in region and have yet another problem:( Posted by: frances | Jan 17 2018 2:53 utc | 28 @31 frances Posted by: financial matters | Jan 17 2018 3:15 utc | 29 @Don Bacon (24) Posted by: ambrit | Jan 17 2018 8:02 utc | 30 @32 financial matters Posted by: Den Lille Abe | Jan 17 2018 8:42 utc | 31 @16 ashley albanese
A quote from the important article I linked to in @4 above, that could be written specifically about you:
Its okay to be white. Posted by: Heros | Jan 17 2018 9:41 utc | 32 Rabid warmonger Molly Mckew delivers more bs about Russia, Posted by: Anon | Jan 17 2018 9:49 utc | 33 @ Heros | Jan 17, 2018 4:41:42 AM | 35 Posted by: Hausmeister | Jan 17 2018 9:59 utc | 34 Heros 35 Posted by: ashley albanese | Jan 17 2018 11:14 utc | 35 Suggested viewing for barflies. Andrew Feinstein on the Arms Trade I love the comments that “Speak in tongues”, they are usually the ones that spout the most incoherent nonsense often with a xenophobic overtone directed at some particular group of people. And then there are the ones with religious overtones, they are quite rambling too, more coherent, but completely rambling. But it does obscure all the ones with a interesting point of view. Sigh ! Posted by: Den Lille Abe | Jan 17 2018 11:35 utc | 37 Posted by: Heros | Jan 17, 2018 4:41:42 AM Posted by: Debsisdead | Jan 17 2018 11:50 utc | 38 Ian@25. Turkey does not have access to US nuclear weapons, never has had and never will have. All nuclear weapons in Turkey are under US control, including weapons codes. Posted by: harrylaw | Jan 17 2018 12:08 utc | 39
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Alexandrovna_Ulyanova
Lenin, like his mother and Grand father was a cryto-jew, even (((wikipedia))) agrees. Posted by: Heros | Jan 17 2018 12:21 utc | 40 @ Heros | Jan 17, 2018 7:21:30 AM | 43 Posted by: Hausmeister | Jan 17 2018 12:55 utc | 41 @38 ashley albanese @41 Debsisdead
http://www.fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/WSC/WSCwrote1920.html Posted by: Heros | Jan 17 2018 13:17 utc | 42 Heros Posted by: Anon | Jan 17 2018 13:57 utc | 43 Heros | Jan 17, 2018 8:17:54 AM | Posted by: Debsisdead | Jan 17 2018 14:01 utc | 44 “can only mean you believe that human behaviour is defined magically by blood even though there has never been any way of determining race by DNA analysis, blood analysis, brain dissection or whatever.” Posted by: Smithy | Jan 17 2018 14:55 utc | 45 @46 Anon, @45 Heros… Posted by: xLemming | Jan 17 2018 15:04 utc | 46 I have a theory of my own, which of course is not scientifically prove able, bur probably empirically: Too much religion corrodes your brain. Even reading about it, much worse writing about it can further the damaging process. The worst are those preaching or proselyting religion, even there also using just religious words will cause your brain to decay until finally you only able to babble incoherent. Posted by: Den Lille Abe | Jan 17 2018 15:21 utc | 47 @49 DLA Posted by: xLemming | Jan 17 2018 16:07 utc | 48 news report – Reuters: Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 17 2018 16:13 utc | 49 DB @51– Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 17 2018 16:31 utc | 50 @51 The Vancouver conference loos a little inconclusive. Participants agreed to ‘consider’ new sanctions and prefer a diplomatic solution. Nothing new there. Posted by: dh | Jan 17 2018 16:41 utc | 51 @karlofi 52 Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 17 2018 16:42 utc | 52 Further to the excellent points above re: DPRK, not sure if this has been said already, but Why on earth would ANY sane leader of any country eschew national self-reliance & put all their goods & services needs into the “free trade” basket – only to potentially face sanctions down the road by a capricious country like the US or collection of countries like EU/NATO/UN – it makes no sense, especially after seeing the well-worn sanction card being played repeatedly against Russia, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Yemen, etc Posted by: xLemming | Jan 17 2018 16:47 utc | 53 Posted by: dh | Jan 17, 2018 11:41:54 AM | 53 Posted by: somebody | Jan 17 2018 16:52 utc | 54 add to 57 Posted by: somebody | Jan 17 2018 16:55 utc | 55 @58 I am aware of that. In fact Tillerson agreed to unconditional talks back in December but he got ‘corrected’. He blinked. Posted by: dh | Jan 17 2018 16:57 utc | 56 @50 xLemming Posted by: Grieved | Jan 17 2018 17:10 utc | 57 Heros Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 17 2018 17:12 utc | 58 @Grieved61 Posted by: financial matters | Jan 17 2018 17:30 utc | 59 Posted by: Heros | Jan 17, 2018 12:04:20 PM | 60 Posted by: somebody | Jan 17 2018 17:45 utc | 60 Some good news from Korea:
Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 17 2018 17:58 utc | 61 @55 an abrupt lesson on national self-reliance: Posted by: chu teh | Jan 17 2018 17:58 utc | 62 Don Bacon @51:
It should be obvious to anyone by now that both North and South Korea are negotiating without (or with limited) US interference. So, is Washington trying to take credit for something that they don’t deserve? Are we going to see Washington on the podium claiming US diplomacy was the reason for both Koreas coming together? Posted by: Ian | Jan 17 2018 18:02 utc | 63 More good news, from Hawaii where “I Survived the Hawaii Ballistic Missile” tee-shirts are for sale. Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 17 2018 18:03 utc | 64 @ Ian | 67 Posted by: Harry | Jan 17 2018 18:09 utc | 65 @Ian 67 Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 17 2018 18:12 utc | 66 from Jerusalem Post via southfront:
“Called on world powers” = Washington, we have a problem, what are you going to do about it? Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 17 2018 18:21 utc | 67 With regards to religion, read, reflect, and then make up your own version. They did.. Posted by: ben | Jan 17 2018 18:21 utc | 68 Heros@60. Churchill was greatly distrusted by the British people who threw him out of office in 1945. His long career was punctuated by moments of almost sadistic policy decisions- using armed force to break up a miners strike at Tonypandy being but one of many. His responsibility in the creation of the famine in Bengal in WWII has been well documented-he was responsible for the deaths of millions there. His admiration for Mussolini and Hitler was so deep that he describes Hitler positively in a 1941 publication. They shared his love of the British Empire which they strove to emulate. Posted by: bevin | Jan 17 2018 18:27 utc | 69 Posted by: Heros | Jan 17, 2018 1:06:58 PM | 69 Posted by: somebody | Jan 17 2018 18:29 utc | 70 38;Puppet master is the zionists.goddam. Posted by: dahoit | Jan 17 2018 18:31 utc | 71 @Heros | Jan 17, 2018 8:17:54 AM | 45
https://twitter.com/crimesofbrits/status/950786277661728768 Posted by: elsi | Jan 17 2018 18:38 utc | 72 As far as I know Denmark was invaded by German troops on the 9th of April 1940 at 0510. Posted by: Den Lille Abe | Jan 17 2018 18:51 utc | 73 re: Don Bacon | Jan 17, 2018 1:03:56 PM | 68 Posted by: Perimetr | Jan 17 2018 19:06 utc | 74 @Perimetr 80 (yr hyperlink doesn’t work) Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 17 2018 19:25 utc | 75 Posted by: Heros | Jan 17, 2018 1:55:53 PM | 79 Posted by: somebody | Jan 17 2018 19:33 utc | 76 add to 83
So this is quite likely a Western disinformation campaign to smear Russia with antisemitism. Posted by: somebody | Jan 17 2018 19:38 utc | 77 Veterans Today: Russia Insider: CIA Israeli front
Add the Saker. Posted by: somebody | Jan 17 2018 19:42 utc | 78 @ somebody | Jan 17, 2018 11:55:07 AM | 58
i know it sounds unlikely, but they did! ’56 till ’64 Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Jan 17 2018 19:43 utc | 79 Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Jan 17, 2018 2:43:52 PM | 86 Posted by: somebody | Jan 17 2018 20:15 utc | 80 Heros @69: it was France and England that declared war on Germany in September 1939”” Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 17 2018 20:46 utc | 82 @57/58 somebody.. yes – highly symbolic and fascinating to see at this moment… usa seems to need ongoing conflict to keep the military and financial industry going.. Posted by: james | Jan 17 2018 20:51 utc | 83 There are several very interesting things happening right now, but this thread is full of noise about a very stale ‘debate’. Successful derailment? Posted by: Dr. Wellington Yueh | Jan 17 2018 21:33 utc | 84 Of the strange things Heros has said in this comments forum, the oddest is @ 43 where in that comment s/he states that Joseph Stalin’s original surname Dzhugashvili means “son of a Jew”. Posted by: Jen | Jan 17 2018 22:11 utc | 85 @63 financial matters Posted by: Grieved | Jan 17 2018 22:23 utc | 86 @93
What was in this book, by one of 20th century’s best historians, that earned its nickname as one of the most banned books in the world? Why is it such taboo to open discuss it? Posted by: JS | Jan 17 2018 22:27 utc | 87 Hero Posted by: James lake | Jan 17 2018 22:27 utc | 88 @98 Posted by: JS | Jan 17 2018 22:34 utc | 89 @99: Posted by: JS | Jan 17 2018 22:42 utc | 90 Strange… I wanted to look up some of Heros’charges, but I can’t find a timeline which shows the mobilisation dates of respective nations in the early stages of World War Two. Posted by: xaderp | Jan 17 2018 22:50 utc | 91 @99 Tannenhouser Posted by: Grieved | Jan 17 2018 23:00 utc | 92 @101 Posted by: James lake | Jan 17 2018 23:04 utc | 93 RI has a tabloid feel, for me it’s like Brietbart for sensationalism. Disinfo? They’re all guilty. Posted by: TSP | Jan 17 2018 23:08 utc | 94 @Dr. Wellington Yueh | Jan 17, 2018 4:33:10 PM | 92 Posted by: elsi | Jan 17 2018 23:11 utc | 95 @97, @103 Posted by: benny | Jan 17 2018 23:15 utc | 96 Heros @91 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 17 2018 23:16 utc | 97 @109 Posted by: benny | Jan 17 2018 23:23 utc | 98 @111 Posted by: xaderp | Jan 17 2018 23:28 utc | 99 So, the US stays uninvited in Syria until they own it. Posted by: x | Jan 17 2018 23:32 utc | 100 |
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