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November 10, 2017
Saudi Arabia – This “Liberal Reformer” Is An Impulsive Tyrant

It is becoming more difficult to hide the mess the Saudi clown prince Mohammad bin Salman creates. The propaganda about the "liberal reformer" is too inconsistent with his obviously tyrannical behavior.

The clown prince of Saudi Barbaria practically abducted the Prime Minister of Lebanon, blackmailed him to resign and holds him since under house arrest. This is an unprecedented attack on the sovereignty of Lebanon and all other countries. Yet the U.S. and some European leaders cowardly pretend that Saad Hariri is free to go where he wants:

A French official says that Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri has told foreign ambassadors that he is not a prisoner in Saudi Arabia, where he has been holed up since an unusual resignation announcement.

An official in French President Emmanuel Macron's office said on Friday that the French and U.S. ambassadors in Saudi Arabia met with Hariri, and that Hariri "says he is not a prisoner, the (Saudi crown) prince says he is not a prisoner."

Macron paid a surprise visit to Saudi Arabia on Thursday night and met with the crown prince, notably about rising tensions in Lebanon, a former French protectorate.

Hariri may not be "a prisoner" but he is as free to leave his current residence as Julian Assange in free to leave the Ecuadorian embassy in London.

Macron did not even meet with Hariri but slipped over into the United Arab Emirates. There an unexpected sale of two French corvettes was signed. The president of the UAE, Mohammed bin Zayed, is the mentor of the Saudi clown prince Mohammed bin Salman. Macron took the thirty pieces of silver and let Hariri and Lebanon hanging.

It is obvious that Hariri did not travel to Saudi Arabia last Saturday with the intent to resign from his job:

Hariri had scheduled meetings in Beirut on the following Monday – with the IMF, the World Bank and a series of discussions on water quality improvement; not exactly the action of a man who planned to resign his premiership.

The unofficial version of Hariri's meeting with the U.S. and French ambassador is diverging from the one above:

Mr. Hariri, a dual citizen of Lebanon and Saudi Arabia, met the ambassadors of Britain and the European Union and the chargé d’affaires from the American Embassy on Wednesday and Thursday at his Riyadh residence. Other Western diplomats, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said that those envoys, too, came away with the impression that he could not speak freely.

Even the State Department spokesperson lets slip that Harairi is not free to go:

"We have seen him. In terms of the conditions of him being held or the conversations between Saudi Arabia and Prime Minister Hariri, I would have to refer you to the government of Saudi Arabia and also to Mr Hariri's office."

Hariri's own political party in Lebanon has united with its enemy Hizbullah and the Christian President Aoun in a call for Hariri to come back and explain himself to the Lebanese people:

“The return of the head of the Lebanese government, the national leader and the head of al-Mustaqbal Movement Saad Hariri is necessary to restore respect for Lebanon's balance at home and abroad, in the framework of full respect for the Lebanese legitimacy represented in the Constitution and the Taef Accord and in respecting the Arab and international legitimacies,” said Mustaqbal in a statement issued after an emergency meeting for its parliamentary bloc and political bureau.

The Saudis have told their citizens in Lebanon to leave the country. Its allies Kuwait, UAE and Bahrain have followed suit. There have been some four such orders during the last five years and the move is in itself not significant. Should the Saudis start to block the Gulf money flow to Lebanon or take other measures the economic damage in Lebanon could be quite larger If the Gulf states expulse Lebanese workers the economic damage to Lebanon would be huge. But these Lebanese workers are the people who actually run the businesses in the Gulf states. Without the 160,000 Lebanese book keepers and managers the Saudi economy would probably collapse.

The similarities with the idiotic Saudi campaign against Qatar is obvious. The Saudi made an impulsive hostile move without having thought through the second or third step. He soon found himself out of ammunition but had left no way out to solve the issue without losing face.

The French and other countries' cowardliness towards the clown prince extends to the starving of Yemen. UN flights with immediately needed medical supplies and food have been blocked by Saudi authorities. The ports for food shipment are blockaded. UN officials warn of an imminent massive famine and are begging everyone to intervene. But nothing has been heard from Macron or any other "western" politician.

Meanwhile the Saudi tyrant's purge of all potential internal competition continues. Some 500 people have been arrested with the higher ups being held in the Ritz Carlton hotel in Riyadh. The hotel has now been "booked" until the end of January. But its 300 rooms are too few to hold the growing pile of rich trash. The Mariott hotel next door has now also been booked by the Saudi authorities. Regular guests were told to leave. A sure sign that the purge campaign will continue.

One important aspect of the purge is the open robbery that is part of it. Everyone arrested is accused of "corruption". This in a country where taking a share of every state contract is seen as an inherited right of the ruling class. The Wall Street Journal reports that the people around MbS expect to steal up to $800 billion in assets from the ultra rich businessmen and princes they have now under their control. They will probably need the money to keep the country afloat:

[E]ven a portion of that amount could help Saudi Arabia’s finances. A prolonged period of low oil prices forced the government to borrow money on the international bond market and to draw extensively from the country’s foreign reserves, which dropped from $730 billion at their peak in 2014 to $487.6 billion in August, the latest available government data.

The central bank sent a list of hundreds of names to lenders, asking them to freeze any accounts linked to them, according to people familiar with the matter.

As a precautionary measure, authorities have banned a large number of people from traveling outside the country, among them hundreds of royals and people connected to those arrested, according to people familiar with the matter.

Who will be willing to invest even a penny in Saudi Arabia after such a shakedown? There is no rule of law and there are no reliable courts. Everything depends on the whim of one man. The shakedown of the rich might bring some money into MbS coffers but all his huge projects and investment plans will now lack the necessary sponsors.

Trump had voiced full support for the Saudi moves. But it is obvious that such a purge and the external adventurism will not have a happy ending. Secretary of State Tillerson is finally rowing back Trump's grandstanding. He cautions MbS about the handling of his prisoners:

“It’s my understanding that they’re characterizing these as not really arrests at this point but they’re presenting people with evidence of what they think the wrongdoing is to see if there’s a willingness to want to make things right.”

It raises a few concerns until we see more clearly how these particular individuals are dealt with,” Tillerson added.

On Lebanon Tillerson warns Israel of any intervention. He takes the Lebanese side in the Hariri discussion. He does not recognize the compelled "resignation":

The United States was watching the situation [with Hariri] “very carefully,” supporting “the legitimate government of Lebanon” and “asking other outside parties to stay out of it,” he added.

If he’s going to step down, as I understand it, he needs to go back to Lebanon to make that official. I‘m hopeful that if that is still his intent to leave that he’ll do that so that the government of Lebanon can function properly,” Tillerson said.

The two steps on Lebanon and on the internal purge seem too impulsive to be part of a greater plan. They begin to look like the other "adventures" MbS started in Qatar and Yemen. Aimless campaigns in which the second and third order effects eventually turn against the aggressor. In all these cases the long term damage to Saudi Arabia will be huge.

Any day now the clown prince will become king of Saudi Arabia. In theory he could then rule for 50 years. But his country is unlikely to survive another five years of such impulsive and tyrannic behavior. Chances are that one his guards will be merciful enough to solve the problem with a single bullet.

Added:

As another example of MbS' impulsiveness re-consider this episode. In 2016 Salman spontaneously bought a used motor-barge for $550 million (€500m):

While vacationing in the south of France, Prince bin Salman spotted a 440-foot yacht floating off the coast. He dispatched an aide to buy the ship, the Serene, which was owned by Yuri Shefler, a Russian vodka tycoon. The deal was done within hours, at a price of approximately 500 million euros (roughly $550 million today), according to an associate of Mr. Shefler and a Saudi close to the royal family. The Russian moved off the yacht the same day.

The boat had been constructed since 2007 and launched in 2011. Its price then was $330 million (€300m)

The $330 million mega-yacht, which is reputedly owned by Russian vodka titan Yuri Scheffler, was spotted off the coast of Venice, California.

After five years of use its the fair value was probably two-third of the original price. MbS paid 250% of the actual value because he wanted the boat right then and there and because he could. A thirty year old, who has never worked to make money, wasted $330 million on an impulse buy. Money that would rightfully belong to the people of the Arab peninsula. The same dude now claims to care about "corruption".

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@100
Probably phrased it very poorly; I’m not at all claiming that in order to eliminate these individuals, it is necessary for MSB/etc to enlist the aid of their proxy militants. Of course it isn’t required at all if the goal is only to eliminate these individuals. They could separate heads from bodies or let them rot in lovely facilities for the rest of their lives if they want, all official as you said.
Only speculating that if MBS or others are very stupid, as seems to be possible, they could drastically escalate the current madness by enlisting the aid of their HTS or other militants to bomb the hotels in a false flag endeavour in which they simply blame or fabricate “proof” that Hezbollah/Iran/insert Shia bogeyman here did it.
Apologies if I was unclear.

Posted by: Sandy | Nov 12 2017 7:17 utc | 101

Krollchem@97 –
“Any attack by Saudi Arabia/UAE would either overfly Syria or Jordan.”
No UAE jets unless repainted – it has to look like a Saudi-only operation. Jordan won’t be a problem. They have turned their heads while the Saudis have run head-choppers and supplies through their country for years. Syrian air defenses along the Golan were destroyed by Israel’s hired head-choppers a few years ago. Russia will see them and send data to Syria’s network around Damascus, but Syria is running low on SA-2s and might not have much of shot if the jets stay far enough south. Israel is a toss-up, but might let them cross considering their intended targets.
“In the case of Jordan, one must recognize the role of Jordan in trying to bring peace to the Children of the Book…”
That role apparently didn’t involve shutting down the US Military Operations Center in Amman that ran the southern Syrian head-chopper hordes for years. Allowing rat lines of arms to go across the northern border to head-choppers in Syria doesn’t sound especially peaceful. And why doesn’t Jordan let the refugees starving in the Rukban Death Camp into Jordan? Are they not Children of the Book?
I understand the difficult position Jordan is in and how the King’s hands are tied in many ways, but I’m not sure he could/would really do much about a Saudi overflight. Especially if that overflight was way out in the west to get into Syria.
If MbS housecleaning was a Trump/.mil demand to support their unfolding purge here in the US, then the CIA (who is furious that this happened at all in SA) will try to crowbar some kind of nuttiness like this out of MbS before disposing of him. The CIA and shadowy cronies intend to reclaim their Saudi Arabian piggy bank and they’re working on that right now. The only thing that will stop them is if MbS starts chopping heads off of the wealthy CIA ‘assets’ he has locked up.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Nov 12 2017 7:34 utc | 102

>>>> Jackrabbit | Nov 11, 2017 9:24:48 AM | 71
There’s your problem in the first line. The Guardian for whatever reason is now a mouthpiece for MbS among others, or perhaps more accurately Martin Chulov is.

This Guardian article describing the crackdown in September that preceded the latest roundup links detention to Qatar:

The Guardian is not worth the paper it’s printed on which is why I gave up on the printed version after reading it almost every day for 47 years a few years back.
It continues sinking into the swamp which is a shame because outside of eastern Europe, the Middle East, the 2016 US presidential election and anything to do with Trump its reporting is good.

On the frontline of Europe’s forgotten war in Ukraine
Four years since Russia incited an uprising, Europe’s focus has moved on to Brexit, Isis and migration

No, it was the United States that incited an uprising against a democratically elected president which people in eastern Ukraine are even now resisting.

Posted by: Ghostship | Nov 12 2017 9:24 utc | 103

>>>> PavewayIV | Nov 12, 2017 2:34:54 AM | 102

No UAE jets unless repainted – it has to look like a Saudi-only operation.

Why? The UAE has assisted Saudi Arabia militarily elsewhere so why not against Hezbollah.

Jordan won’t be a problem. They have turned their heads while the Saudis have run head-choppers and supplies through their country for years.

Jordan has recognised the realities of Syria – that the terrorists are not going to win and Jordan is now desperately trying to ensure that the terrorists in south east Syria are not pushed across the border into Jordan once the shit pile in Idlib has been disinfected. Allowing the Saudis to use Jordanian airspace to attack Hezbollah might persuade the Russians and Syrians the recent de-confliction agreements with Jordan are a waste of time as Jordan can’t be trusted.

Russia will see them and send data to Syria’s network around Damascus, but Syria is running low on SA-2s and might not have much of shot if the jets stay far enough south.

As I’ve written elsewhere Russia is in the Middle East to bring stability and keep the head choppers as far away from Russia as possible. Hezbollah and Iran fighting Israel and Saudi Arabia brings instability and postpones the day the head choppers in Syria are liquidated. Russia has reason enough to intervene already.

Israel is a toss-up, but might let them cross considering their intended targets.

One of the two major objectives of this conspiracy is to get Hezbollah to attack Israel so that Israel is not seen as the aggressor when it attacks Hezbollah. Saudi and UAE aircraft flying part of their route through Israeli airspace is a feature of the conspiracy.
The following is conjecture:
An operation like this requires considerable planning and training and Qatar got wind of what MbZ and MbS were up to and being right in the front line between Saudi Arabia and Iran, Qatar decided this was not for them and told the Iranians about it. Perhaps explains the “conflict” between KSA/UAE and Qatar. KSA/UAE wanted Qatar off the GCC.
The Iranians could have gone public but who would even listen?
So the Iranians decide to disrupt the conspiracy and to do this they need to have a high-level representative of the Supreme Leader talk to the Lebanese government in Beirut. So President Rouhani makes a speech in which he says:

“Where in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, North Africa and the Persian Gulf region a decision can be made without Iran’s comment?”

Someone re-translates this sentence and forwards it to various Lebanese politicians resulting in an uproar:

“Where in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, North Africa and the Persian Gulf region a decision can be made without Iran’s consent?”

The Iranians then send Ali Akbar Wilayeti to meet with Hariri in Beirut, clarify Rouhani’s statement and disclose the Saudi conspiracy. Saad Hariri decides he doesn’t want to see Lebanon damaged again particularly with the connivance of Arabs. Following that the Hariri organ, Al-Mustaqbal, came out with this big headline:

Tehran clarifies from the Serail: We Support Lebanon’s Independence.

Not what the Saudis wanted to hear from Hariri given the current shit storm of claims from them that Lebanon is “occupied” by Iran. so they “sacked” him the very next day and have since being trying to replace him with the supposedly more compliant Bahaa Hariri. The only problem, Aoun and Berri have refused to accept Saad Hariri’s resignation until he is returned to Beirut. Until he is, Aoun and Berri make the decisions and since the Saudi conspiracy depends on the Lebanese government not asking for outside help the conspiracy is disrupted because Aoun and/or Berri just have to call the Kremlin if they haven’t already.
Given past Saudi actions against Russia, I’m fairly certain that the Russians would be quite happy to shoot down Saudi planes over Lebanon which are there as part of an illegal aggression particularly if the Lebanese asked them for help. The Russians like to keep their payback legal.
End of conjecture.
As for who put together this conspiracy, my best guess the Israelis. The CIA might have provided some assistance but they’re too stupid and bureaucratic to come up with a conspiracy like this. Jared Kushner is arrogant and dumb enough to get involved but he’s most likely freelancing (Tillerson is briefing against destabilising Lebanon). The US military wouldn’t go anywhere near it, it’s far to risky and might result in a war with a country that can and does shoot back.
Meanwhile Martin Chulov of The Guardian keeps spewing MbS talking points:

Tension mounts in Lebanon as Saudi Arabia escalates power struggle with Iran
The resignation of prime minister Saad Hariri is the latest shot in a regional crisis
— picture —
Former Lebanese prime minister Saad Hariri with Saudi King Salman in Riyadh.

Saad Hariri is not the “former Lebanese prime minister” until President Aoun accepts his resignation.

Posted by: Ghostship | Nov 12 2017 11:16 utc | 104

@ 15 PavewayiV
Quote:
“They will be the same targets Israel would choose to strike if they could get away with it. Israel can’t do this themselves though, without expecting missiles raining down on their infrastructure, military installations and possibly civilian population centers. If Hezbollah is convinced its a purely-Saudi op, then they’ll be gunning for Saudi Arabia, not Israel. By time they figure out they’ve been duped (if they ever do), it will be too late.”
Seriously? Don’t you think that Israel/US would have done so if they had been able to long ago? Especially at the beginning of the Syrian war when there was hardly any air defence system in place. Now with the Russian control of Syrian air space I don’t see how this will be possible.
And furthermore it is absurd to think that especially Hezbollah would fall for a false flag like that and not seeing the handwriting of Israel all over it. The missiles will be raining down on Israel and rest assured Iran will not stand by and watch.
For actions like the one you describe it is too late to be crowned by success but certainly there is always the danger of some desperate maniacs who will throw it all in because they got nothing to lose. That will be tragic in terms of more loss of innocent lives.

Posted by: Demeter | Nov 12 2017 13:44 utc | 105

Checked out Hariri news this morning and found two conflicting accounts. Reuters points out obvious, that Hariri refused to go along with Saudi plan on Hezbollah. ArabNews (biased) says he did the right thing because Lebanese want to be rid of Iranian influence. Of course, the latter is a biased English language output that originates in Saudi Arabia.
Reuters: How Saudis Arabia turned on Hariri
Arab news: Hariri has done the right thing
(I apologize if my attempts to insert links backfires.)

Posted by: Curtis | Nov 12 2017 14:38 utc | 106

Posted by: Sandy | Nov 12, 2017 12:25:31 AM | 99:

Haven’t seen anyone posting about this possibility- is anyone else nervous of some sort of “terror attack” on the two hotels that are housing royal detainees or whatever you’d like to call them in Riyadh?

In previous thread (in reply to frances who thought that MbS might behead those whom he detained) I wrote:

An alQueda or ISIS attack on the hotel that now holds dozens of high-value targets would allow the prince to escape blame. Such an attack on Visiting Day would kill people also kill people who are closest to those being detained.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 12 2017 14:40 utc | 107

Ghostship @103
I’m aware of Guardian’s bias. Virtually every other report of the September crackdown cites Muslim Brotherhood (sponsored by Qatar) and/or the rift with Qatar as a major reason for the crackdown.
Reuters (September 10): Saudi clerics detained in apparent bid to silence dissent

“It seems today in Saudi Arabia that not supporting openly and enthusiastically what is happening against Qatar basically makes you an agent of Qatar,” said Lacroix.
“People who don’t take a stance stand in the middle, and there’s no middle ground for the Saudis now.”

Bloomberg (September 13): Saudi Crackdown on Dissent Wins Backing From Religious Body

After news of the arrests surfaced, the State Security Presidency said it had “neutralized and arrested” Saudis working for “the benefit of foreign powers” …
Saudi papers have joined in. Okaz and Al Watan accused those detained of being supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood and working for Qatari intelligence. One of the men arrested was “one of the most famous faces of the Muslim Brotherhood” …

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 12 2017 14:57 utc | 108

Any attack by Saudi Arabia/UAE would either overfly Syria or Jordan. Any fighter jets crossing into Syrian airspace would be dusted by the integrated Syrian/Russian air defense command without any blow-back.
I doubt that Jordan would approve any flyover by hundreds of Saudi/UAE aircraft. …
Posted by: Krollchem | Nov 11, 2017 7:04:24 PM | 97
Solid air defense exists only for Russian bases. Israel bombed a number of times in south Syria. However, Hezbollah is prepared for retaliation in the case of being bombed in Lebanon, which could happen within minutes after being attacked, and in the unlikely eventuality that the bombing was not by Israel, they are probably prepared to live with consequences of a mistake.
The other possibility is Iranian retaliations against Saudi and/or UAE targets that may include ships. Bombing of Yemen was “on the request of the internationally recognized government of Yemen”, but no such fig leaf exists for Lebanon.
Finally, an attack would require some casus belli that the West would choose to believe. Currently there is some head scratching if it would be better to replace MbS or not — he arrested some of the largest shareholders of western companies. So an amicable resolution of the conflict following the untimely demise of MbS could make everyone happy.
On one hand, what I wrote are speculations, on the other, they are risks that MbS has to take into account. There were some rumors that members of Qatari dynasty that are in exile in KSA and UAE were being recruited to replace the current rulers, but the idea was nixed as the Pentagon did not like it.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 12 2017 15:16 utc | 109

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Posted by: Liam | Nov 12 2017 16:06 utc | 110

@104 Ghostship – “since the Saudi conspiracy depends on the Lebanese government not asking for outside help the conspiracy is disrupted “
Fort Russ reports that Lebanon is indeed asking for help (although no one is saying from Russia at this point):

“Lebanese Foreign Minister Gebran Bassil has held series of talks with a number of international politicians and diplomats in recent time to assure the return of the outgoing Prime Minister Saad Hariri who is currently staying in Saudi Arabia.”
Lebanon still on the lookout for its outgoing prime minister

There are international treaties that prescribe for the safety of officials traveling in other countries. It would be an interesting development to see this move into the legal arena.

Posted by: Grieved | Nov 12 2017 17:48 utc | 111

Ghostship @ 103/4: Martin Chulov, of the Guardian, knows of a body of water called the Arabian Gulf which, to judge from the context, should be somewhere around Iran and the Arabian peninsula. I have not yet been able to find it on any map. Or am I looking at the wrong maps? What a put-on the man is!

Posted by: Quentin | Nov 12 2017 18:56 utc | 112

@104 Ghostship Outstanding conjecturing. Sounds very plausable. Meanwhile, according to SF:
« Arab League To Hold Urgent Meeting On Iran As Saudis Reportedly Mobilize Fighter Jets « 
https://southfront.org/arab-league-hold-urgent-meeting-iran-saudis-reportedly-mobilize-fighter-jets/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Posted by: Lozion | Nov 12 2017 19:16 utc | 113

Thanks for responding. You are correct that the King of Jordan is in an economic bind and also has a lot of radical Islamists that have taken up residence in Jordan. He will still lose a lot of political capital by rolling over to a Saudi attack of Lebanon.
There is apparently an agreement that Israeli fighter jets are not allowed to overfly Syria ( firing missiles into Syria to take out arms bound for Lebanon is still fair game). The last time Israel to enter Syrian air space from the sea they were chased out of Syrian airspace by Russian fighter jets. Thus, I doubt that Saudi Arabia would try to test the air defenses. If, however, the Saudi F16 planes would overfly Syria they would be shot down, either by Russian shipborne S-300s, land based S-200VE, S-300s and S-400s or by SU-31 and even SU-35 air superiority fighters. Iraq might even get into the fray against Saudi Arabia with their latest version of the F16.
All of Syria is covered by the S-200VE and S-400 (range of 400km). If Saudi Arabia chooses the, retaliate the planes will also be shot down by S-300FM and BUK-M2E systems and perhaps the Osa-AKM, S-125 Pechora-2M and Pantsar-S1 systems.
Besides both the EU and the US have warned Saudi Arabia not to attack Lebanon so any downing of Saudi planes by Syrian and Russian forces would have political cover (at least until Tillerson is fired)
I suspect the Saudi and UAE saber raddling is to occupy the Saudi Army to prevent an internal coup. Perhaps it is about time for a major war/mass extermination based on the power curve of conflicts, however, I hope not: http://cassandralegacy.blogspot.cz/

Posted by: Krollchem | Nov 13 2017 2:06 utc | 114

>>>> Lozion | Nov 12, 2017 2:16:17 PM | 113
We shall see but expect no blockbuster revelations from Hezbollah or Iran as they understand the benefits that accrue from keeping your mouth firmly shut. For instance, the amount of damage caused to the Iranian nuclear program by Stuxnet can only be guessed at as the Iranians have released no information that I’ve come across as to the outcome.
>>>> Piotr Berman | Nov 12, 2017 10:16:48 AM | 109
Solid air defense exists only for Russian bases.
Aircraft entering Lebanese airspace from the south will most likely be flying in the general direction of the Russian Khmeimim Air Base and the southern tip of Lebanon is about 162 miles/263 kms away. It seems to be within operational envelope for S-300 and S-400 there. Also S-300 and S-400 are supposed to be highly mobile so anyone flying into Lebanese air spaces wouldn’t know where they might pop-up if the Russians have been invited to assist.
And then there are the RuAF’s BVR capabilities.
What I really came by to mention is that this conspiracy might date back a couple of years rather than a couple of months. Tabuk air base, the one closest to Lebanon has grown an extra runway in the military section along with some extra buildings. The work started in 2016 and was complete sometime in 2017. Tabuk would be of little use for operations over Yemen being over 1300 kms away. Also, Tabuk air base must be one of the most heavily photographed sites from space in the world. Terraserver is showing that commercial satellite imagery has been gathered about every four days for the past couple of years. Someone is very interested in what has been going on at Tabuk.

Posted by: Ghostship | Nov 13 2017 2:23 utc | 115

good posts ghostship and others.. thanks..

Posted by: james | Nov 13 2017 4:44 utc | 116

Ghostship@115
Thanks. Great post on specific Russian BVR capabilities and the amazing terraserver website.
https://www.terraserver.com/

Posted by: Krollchem | Nov 13 2017 7:39 utc | 117

>>>> Grieved | Nov 12, 2017 12:48:03 PM | 111

Fort Russ reports that Lebanon is indeed asking for help (although no one is saying from Russia at this point):

Russia might not have been asked but it just very discretely volunteered its full support:

Russia shows solidarity with Lebanon regarding Hariri crisis
BEIRUT, LEBANON (7:25 A.M.)- Russian Ambassador to Lebanon, Alexander Zasypkin, reaffirmed his government’s support for President Michel ‘Aoun during a seminar in ‘Aley.
“Today we are witnessing a dangerous development in Lebanon, and Russia stands with President of the Republic Michel Aoun and House Speaker Nabih Berri,” Zasypkin statd (sic).
Zasypkin added that Russia praised the national positions of the Lebanese leadership and the state, the army and security apparatuses, parties and businessmen, saying “Lebanon will overcome the difficulties due to the social cohesion of the Lebanese people.”

Anyone who ignores this message is an idiot in my opinion, but then Washington, Tel Aviv and Riyadh have more than their fair share of idiots

Posted by: Ghostship | Nov 13 2017 15:05 utc | 118

@ B Logical thanks a lot of your insights that make a lot of sense.
Don’t worry about the official smokes and mirrors here, everything is well planned. 🙂
It’s obvious to anybody with modicum of intelligence and good will that recent great world positive developments wouldn’t be possible without Trumps acting as the POTUS.
Apparently Saudi Arabia switched sides, just as Turkey after the pre-emptive coup there. Probably the same threat was developing in the Wahhabi kingdom.
What is left are the Commonwealth states; Canada, Australia, UK are big problem.
The US will be soon under total control of the good guys, supervised by the military. Some say that both McCain and Clinton are hiding GPS bracelets for criminals on their right ankles.
But you are wrong about the socialism being the problem – Obamacare is not socialism, it’s ruthless corporatism exploiting the customers of the insurance and medical companies.
Recent happening is just a tip of the cesspool is vast, disgusting as I’ve been warning for years:
“Orgies with underage girls, heavy drug and alcohol abuse” – Saudi princess unveils the Kingdom’s dark side

Posted by: PeacefulProsperity | Nov 13 2017 15:12 utc | 119