Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
September 28, 2017
Storm Hits Foreign American Island – Reveals System’s Failure

A new example of how little Americans know about their own country – Washington Post, September 28

Puerto Rico is not a foreign country, at least it isn’t if you live in the United States. It is a U.S. territory, and those on the island who were born in Puerto Rico are American citizens (though, like denizens of the District of Columbia, have no voting rights in Congress).

But a new poll by an outfit called Morning Consult, as reported in the New York Times, found that only 54 percent of Americans know that people born in Puerto Rico are American citizens.

Someone belonging to the 46% of uninformed Americans is headline editor for the print edition of the Washington Post.

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(The print edition headline, ‘Why can’t we get out of here?’ asks stranded American, was changed to ‘Why can’t we get out of here?’ Airports in Puerto Rico, other islands, damaged and slow to recover for its online version.)

On September 20 Puerto Rico was hit by hurricane Mary, then a category 4 storm. The U.S. has a professional civil defense organization called FEMA. It seemed overwhelmed, which is normal in the immediate aftermath of a large devastation. But the hurricane hit Puerto Rico 8 days ago and it the event had been predicted several days before. There was ample time to prepare and to get ready for recovery action. Why were there no distributed emergency depots for food, gasoline and diesel? Now hospitals are still shut down for lack of emergency power.

The problem with FEMA, it is said, is that it is too centralized and bureaucratic. Local disaster managers need full authority and readily available goods and funds they can spend right away, without asking higher ups. Meanwhile there is enough aid on Puerto Rico, but for lack of available transport, it is stacking up at the harbor and the airport. Now, a week too late, the U.S. military gets called in. It is incompetent at winning wars, but it traditionally knows a bit or two about logistics. In a few weeks Puerto Rico will be swamped with military trucks.

On September 10 the category 5 hurricane Irma hit Cuba very, very hard. A week later MEDICC reported:

87% of the population affected now has both electricity and water. No outbreaks of infectious diseases are reported, and cleanup is prioritized in both the capital and hardest-hit central provinces. Food processing centers are operating in all these provinces, and cooked food is being distributed in shelters (where 26,000 remain of the 1.7 million evacuees) and in areas without electricity.

Teaching activities have resumed throughout the country as of September 18, …

Tarik Cyril Amar, of the history department of Columbia University, remarked today:

Tarik Cyril Amar‏ @TarikCyrilAmar

catastrophe in puerto rico reminiscent of late-Soviet chaos. Except, USA hasn't lost a Cold War and is much richer. How ARE they doing it?

In 1976 the French anthropologist Emmanual Todd predicted the fall of the Soviet Union. Fifteen years later his prediction came true. In 2001 he predicted the The Breakdown of the American Order:

Todd notes some disturbing American trends, such as rising stratification based on educational credentials, and the "obsolescence of unreformable political institutions."

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@65 paveway… thanks for your many posts and way of making humour out of it too.. what else can one do short of feeling a sense of despair?

Posted by: james | Sep 30 2017 0:41 utc | 101

@89 Jen – “FEMA still doesn’t have a national emergency plan and response set-up”
Makes you wonder if FEMA was set up to handle a different kind of emergency. I haven’t studied any of this, but one hears about the camps, for the real emergency, if the people get uppity.
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It’s actually a pretty deep question, since we’re talking here entirely about incompetence. Could it instead be a totally callous and strong-willed neglect? A willful desire to destroy starting to slip its leash, a disdain that gleefully consigns the non-privileged to the abyss? What is this storm showing us, far beyond the borders of one island? Is this a glimpse of how powerful the hate actually is in the ruling orders for the ordinary people?
It seems to be incompetence for the poor and inconsequential, versus efficiency for the rich and powerful. Are we simply seeing glimpses of the true condition of the US, here and everywhere around the world? Not incompetence but a pure and saturated lack of caring anymore by the leaders, because what’s endgame for us is simply retreat for them? The privileged are in retreat, but by retreat they mean a nice place to be away from all the cares of the world – the people, the noise.
Wasn’t this forecast as the ultimate development of capitalism? Are we really this much on our own now, in the US? We see now that our effect on national politics is gone. And we know that no one helped the people after the 2008 crash. Any people still standing have repaired their equity by their own efforts. We’re still in the 2008 crash, with a thin surface layer of resilience on top from the people struggling to stay afloat. The sooner we develop our own money – nod to psychohistorian here – the better.
It would be easy to be cynical and say it was always this way but that doesn’t explain why we’re seeing it so clearly now. If the Internet has torn away the veil, and we now see what always was, that still makes it different because the observed is affected by the observer, or at least the observation. I don’t think the privileged like to be looked at. They will try to smash either the mirror or the observer.
Up until now, in viewing the actions of the US around the world, we’ve talked about incompetence versus the goal of chaos. But it could be more than chaos. It could be simple hate.
Apologies if this is simply naive musing.

Posted by: Grieved | Sep 30 2017 0:48 utc | 102

Trump has finally chosen to issue a waver of the Jones Act to increase aid to Puerto Rico. The following link includes a video.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-what-is-jones-act-how-could-it-help-puerto-rico-20170927-htmlstory.html
As Paveway IV has pointed out, the aid consists of food, water and other supplies (medical). A plan to repair the damage and financial assistance to those affected appears not to be in the cards. We wouldn’t want to appear to be like socialistic Cuba or, heaven forbid, Venezuela.
It is a shame that Trump refused Cuban aid. In Haiti, Cuba had about a thousand medical staff working following the earthquake. The US had one doctor for the whole island and he was there as part of a news crew and chose to actually practice medicine.
I expect the US NGOs will profit from the Puerto Rico disaster as they did in Haiti. Just the US Red Cross raised 500 million in donations and used the money to build six homes. The rest went for administration stateside. I won’t even go into how much the Clinton Foundation profited from Haiti.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/04/red-cross-haiti-report_n_7511080.html
There is no way out for Puerto Rico as America has other plans to become great again. I suspect that bombing little brown people and aid to Israel to build settler communities has a higher priority. Ultimately, America will also be hollowed out financially and morally.

Posted by: Krollchem | Sep 30 2017 1:13 utc | 103

@99 Deb
I’m going with “bad microwave”
There’s something they’re not telling us here, right? Only US diplos in Cuba. Not localized. Damned frustrating for armchairs warriors like myself. Even if it were device-driven, like a hacked cell phone that suddenly screams 22,000Hz at 125dB, how would it only affect just individuals and not anyone nearby? I mean, this would take out mice and parrots, right?

Posted by: Stumpy | Sep 30 2017 1:22 utc | 104

Change in driver.
@91 @96
Or because there was a hurricane churning bad juju on the ocean and air?

Posted by: JaimeInTexas | Sep 30 2017 2:06 utc | 105

JamesIn Texas, ZH cites The Mises Institute
“3 Ways To Help Puerto Rico Right Now”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-29/3-ways-help-puerto-rico-right-now

There is a lot to learn from the slow and painful post-hurricane recovery that is going on in Puerto Rico right now. One of Puerto Rico’s biggest problems is that it is by far, one of poorest areas of the United States. The median household income in Puerto Rico is approximately $18,600. The median household income in the United States, by contrast, is around $57,000.[.]
Repeating this fact to Puerto Ricans, however, does them little good in the short term. So we must explore ways that Puerto Rico could be helped right now in gaining greater access to badly needed goods and service
One: Repeal the Jones Act
Unbeknownst to many Americans, shipping in the United States exists under the shadow of highly protectionist and archaic regulations passed as part of the Jones Act. The Jones Act was originally passed in 1920 as part of an effort to increase the number of merchant marine vessels produced by the United States. It restricts trade between American ports to vessels built and owned by Americans, and to vessels whose crew is at least three-quarters American. Unfortunately, as Gary Galles notes, the Act “works against its stated goals, and does so at a steep cost.”
The Jones Act drives up the cost of goods and services by restricting shipping options for merchants.[.]
Two: Declare Puerto Rico a Free Trade Zone
Why stop with just a repeal of the one protectionist measure that is the Jones Act?
Puerto Rico is subject to American customs and trade laws, and thus importing goods and services into the island is limited by tariffs, quotas, and other protectionist measures — thus driving up the costs of goods and services. [.]
Three: Remove Restrictions on Physical Cash
In times of emergency, when the electricity is out, access to physical cash becomes extremely important in facilitating a functional economy. In the wake of Hurricane Maria, ATMs ceased to function and armored car services had difficulty reaching banks. “Demand for cash [in Puerto Rico] is extraordinarily high right now,” a Federal Reserve spokesman noted on Wednesday.
While it is a good thing that the Fed believes it can soon ensure a working amount of cash in the region, the problem would have been largely avoidable were United States banking regulations not so geared toward restricting the use of physical cash. [.]

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Trump, our twatter-in-Chief, stopped only a few seconds from bashing athletes’ freedom-to-protest to waive the Jones Act.

Posted by: likklemore | Sep 30 2017 2:11 utc | 106

@ Krollchem who ended their comment with: “Ultimately, America will also be hollowed out financially and morally.”
I believe that the hollowed out morally and financially have already occurred but are only now being recognized as such by some Americans. The rest of the world has experienced the hollowed out US morality since WWII.
In response to Grieved above about their insightful musing.
You name the feeling that the elite have for the rest of us as hate which I want to challenge. I think the feeling is more a feeling of being better and entitled to better. I think the basis for that is faith based religion……monotheistic mostly. The monotheistic religions have gods that were/are “human”. This makes humans more like gods than other species and flora/fauna….at least in the minds of those of faith….at least that is what the Jesuits taught me.
So I think that it is a slippery slope from the BELIEF that we are better than other meat sacks or matter we know about to extension of that belief to differences in human capability and that these differences should be “compensated for”.
I would further posit that this attitude of better than others is a mainstay lie of the empires of past and present. We refuse to recognize our own evolutionary leftover anti-social tendencies.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 30 2017 2:13 utc | 107

Greived @101
Naive musings no. But, maybe not quite common enough..just yet. The ingredients are there for a civil event of some description. The internet playing the role of Enlightenment, ridiculous levels of unserviceable debt… the critical mass of affected woke folk required can not be that far away. The debt ceiling won’t be raised for humanitarian crises, that much we now know.

Posted by: MadMax2 | Sep 30 2017 2:34 utc | 108

DiD @ 93: Great post, thanks. Relevant and true. An excerpt:
“now enemies have been created everywhere and will continue to be created until amerika behaves like a responsible member of the global community and pulls back behind its continental borders.”
Yep, and all so the already wealthy can become more wealthy.

Posted by: ben | Sep 30 2017 2:38 utc | 109

To JaimeInTexas: I think what you’re looking for is a Puerto Rico that is more or less self-sufficient to the extent that its natural resources can support X numbers of people and is able to trade with its neighbours and other countries without accumulating too much debt and other financial obligations to others. At the same time, this is a Puerto Rico whose politics is structured so that everyone who can participate by voting or standing for election, can do so, and government is answerable to the people and not controlled by a distant power.
This Puerto Rico hasn’t existed since 1898, it seems. The Puerto Rico that has existed for more than 100 years has been a colony of the US.
If you don’t know what colonialism is, you’ve probably lived under it for too long to know what “normal” should look like.

Posted by: Jen | Sep 30 2017 4:06 utc | 110

Grieved @ 101: Thanks for your musing and no, naive it isn’t.
Hate? … I think the behaviour and incompetence spring from fear: fear that finally people realise they’ve been exploited and manipulated, and payback time has come.
But the powers that (should not) be don’t know how to deal with the rising tide and their response is either to dissipate it or destroy it.

Posted by: Jen | Sep 30 2017 4:12 utc | 111

Counterpunch who usually coast on republishing other site’s journalism have an original publication by Indiana grad student Miguel Cruz-Diaz called:
Memento Mori: a Requiem for Puerto Rico .
It is one of the most cogent, well argued yet subjective (Cruz-Diaz is a native Puerto Rican) takes on the disaster that has befallen amerika’s oldest colony.

“President Trump’s message to Puerto Rico was clear: pay up and drop dead. The island is expected to pay its imaginary debt for the dubious “privilege” of being an imperial colony in the way it’s always done so: in blood. Wall Street’s interests have priority over securing the very survival of nearly four million people. God forbid that millionaire Wall Street bondholders suffer the horror of payment forfeiture over a minor inconvenience like Hurricane María, only the worst storm in eighty years!
The president initially denied full federal assistance to the island and refused to suspend the Merchant Marine Act of 1920, or Jones Act, that has for nearly a century strangled commerce to and from Puerto Rico. Because of this stubbornness an obviously colonial World War One-vintage piece of legal protectionism continues to choke the island as its inhabitants are left to fend for themselves. Colonialism is a self-perpetuating state of exception that thrives on crises precisely because the beneficiaries are always the colonizers and their local flunkies who maintain and benefit from the illusion of “self-governance.”
While Homeland Security steadfastly holds on to its refusal to wave the Jones Act, Herr Trump was later forced by public pressure to amend his remarks on aid, and the USNS Comfort hospital ship is now scheduled to arrive on the island in three to five days (as will our bloviating commander-in-chief himself at some point) any help received from the American imperial mainland now carries with it a stigma, a sense of being a discarded, second-hand lifeline. This is extremely revealing. It’s been over a week since Hurricane María cut a path of destruction in Puerto Rico nearly beyond the scope of living memory, a week that passed before Trump made any remarks at all. It was a week filled by hysterics over kneeling, Russia and North Korea, a week of forgetting that Puerto Rico even existed.
American colonialism is not just confined to its territories or its Native American population. A successful empire can choose to either exalt itself to its population, thereby becoming an object of national pride, or hide itself by dulling that population’s senses and intelligence, negating that it has an empire in the first place. The United States pursued the second path. Successfully, I might add. Puerto Rico’s imperial masters also relied on their own profoundly ignorant population on the mainland that, fueled by the systemic racism on which the United States is built on, and a blinding allegiance to patriotism, considered Puerto Ricans to be just another group of Hispanic vermin. To this day nearly half of Americans do not even know that Puerto Ricans are “fellow citizens”, at least in name.”

Cruz-Diaz makes the point that Puerto Rico is actually the world’s oldest colony, since it was an early addition to the Spanish empire transferred over to amerika following the 100% illegal & inexcusable amerikan-spanish war.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 30 2017 4:17 utc | 112

flankerbandit@95 – It looks like the San Juan airport was only closed on the 21st. They announced that it was open on the 22nd for commercial traffic but were only reserving a few slots/day for them. The tower was operating and communicating with aircraft. Long-range radar was out, but that wouldn’t prevent the tower from lining up flights for approach and landing or sequencing takeoffs. It would only reduce the number per hour they could handle safely.
I had called the few commercial flights in ‘chartered’, but the airlines and FAA were calling them either relief flights or humanitarian flights. As far as I can tell, that means only relief cargo and non-paying passengers coming in. These were the normal-sized passenger jets the airlines usually flew to Puerto Rico, not small charters. This article gives some details of the airlines and flights. The airport was already handling many military flights per day on the 22nd and dozens more on Saturday and Sunday – presumably leaving empty after delivering cargo.
On a more positive note, Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines cancelled a scheduled cruise departing this weekend from San Juan and instead sent the empty 3800 passenger, fully-staffed ship filled with humanitarian aid to Puerto Rico on Wednesday. It picked up around 1,700 ‘evacuees’ and has continued on to the Virgin Islands to deliver more aid and evacuate another 1,700 before returning to Ft. Lauderdale this Tuesday.

“..The evacuees include locals, tourists, and friends and family of Royal Caribbean employees, said Celia de la Llama, a spokeswoman for Royal Caribbean. (RCL) Passengers weren’t charged to board, and the food and entertainment are free. Alcohol is not — though it is being sold at a discount…”

How often do you ever hear of this happening? The ship probably had few bookings for the cancelled cruise, but could have easily just let the ship sit somewhere to save money. Gives me hope that there are still a few healthy humans out there.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Sep 30 2017 4:51 utc | 113

The Royal Caribbean effort described above in this article: What it’s like on the cruise ship full of hurricane evacuees

Posted by: PavewayIV | Sep 30 2017 4:54 utc | 114

@ PavewayIV who has hope that there are a few humans left
I know this link is OT but it gives me the kind of hope that PavewayIV refers to.
Xi calls for profound understanding of Marxism

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 30 2017 5:42 utc | 115

Debsisdead @99
Sounds like it could be infrasound.
A broken fan in the ventilation system emitting a low frequency noise could cause all the listed symptoms, yet not be audible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrasound#Human_reactions

Posted by: anonymous | Sep 30 2017 7:49 utc | 116

Trump, incredibly, sneered at Puerto Rico’s impoverishment – he omitted to mention in hand in that impoverishment which is touched on below:
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/trumps-cruel-indifference-puerto-rico/
‘Second, Trump himself is part of the problem in Puerto Rico’s economy. His business made money from taking over a failing golf course on the island. After promising to turn it around, Trump International called it quits. Snopes.com explains: “His role in the bankruptcy of the company, which ended up costing Puerto Rican taxpayers $32.6 million, was significant but limited.” Corporations similar to Trump’s have taken advantage of subsidies and handouts in Puerto Rico, leaving islanders saddled with more problems and more debt.’
Here is the transcript of the plea from San Juan’s Mayor which surely should go far and wide – I have searched for it on local admin sites, but can’t find it, only this in full:
San Juan mayor’s harrowing plea: ‘Mr Trump, I am begging. We are dying here’
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/29/san-juan-mayor-plea-donald-trump-puerto-rico

Posted by: Felicity | Sep 30 2017 10:05 utc | 117

psycohistorian 114
Castro stressed that Xi was the most knowing exponent , and scholar of Marxism he ever spoke with . High praise indeed ! !

Posted by: ashley albanese | Sep 30 2017 10:08 utc | 118

Debsisdead @99, anonymous @115
There is a somewhat enlightening report on the „mysterious“ issue coming from AP 15th septiembre, translated into Spanish at CENAE, Centro Andino de Estudios Estratégicos. Link:
http://www.cenae.org/penetracioacuten-del-mar-afecta-equipos-lrad-existentes-en-la-embajada-de-eeuu-en-la-habana.html
Roughly translated into English (apologies, I‘m not a native English speaker):
An official from NASA who does not want to be identified says that NASA is about to
prepare a lawsuit against American Tecnology Corporation, the manufacturer of LRAD-RX = the equipment used in the US embassy in Habana for communication with the representatives.
The lawsuit relates to those ominous health problems of US diplomats in Cuba „caused by these equipments“.
NASA has therefore ordered to not continue using LRAD-RX in the embassy.
The entire problem got more complicated through the huge flooding on coastal Habana caused by huracán Irma, including the flooding of the US embassy in Habana, where parts of the equipment were (still are?) underwater. Which would make it difficult or impossible for technicians and experts to verify the factual conditions of the equipments, according to NASA, „it wouldn‘t make sense right now“.
I‘ve found the CENAE link from a commenter at Cubadebate, very popular website in Cuba. By the way, Cubans with their proverbial sense of political/historic humor have already given the shady acoustic incident in the embassy an appropriate name: they call it „La Maine acústica“ (the famous American naval ship that exploded and sank in Habana in 1898 under suspicious circumstances).

Posted by: Mrs. Mop | Sep 30 2017 11:42 utc | 119

@PavewayIV 112
I was delighted to see your write up on the cruise ship. My son, his wife and baby were on another of Royal Caribbean’s ships at the time of Hurricane Irma and which couldn’t get back to port in Ft Lauderdale. Along with about 15 other cruise ships from various lines, they retreated to the western Caribbean and hung around for a few days waiting for Irma to clear out of the way. Their 7-day cruise ended up being 10+ days.
But as my son said, the crew was great, the food was great, the entertainment great and lots of stuff to do (ship even had an ice rink) and best of all, he had electricity and air-conditioning that he wouldn’t have had back home near Ft Lauderdale.

Posted by: forgetful | Sep 30 2017 11:56 utc | 120

Hi, I’m an unemployed Italian, if you have a paypal account I can send money to Puerto Rico?
You have to publish in the media what’s going on in Puerto Rico and ask for help around the world.
The peoples of the world are better than the politicians who govern them.
Thank you
Claudio

Posted by: Claudio | Sep 30 2017 12:27 utc | 121

Paveway 4 @112
Thanks for the additional info and article, which I read…
So clearly airliners were coming in and out of there on ‘relief’ flights or whatever…that means that emergency charters could have got those people out instead of letting them twist…
FEMA is nowhere to be found in this…with even a little push from FEMA the airlines could have organized evacuation flights…
I believe FEMA has the authority to take charge like this and take whatever resources are needed…
Military too could have taken people out…at least ones most at risk in such an ordeal…
Bottom line is that people are right to be very angry…it’s not just about Puerto Rico, but the way that ordinary people are treated with such disregard…
People are being squeezed until they bleed…by banks, corporations, govt and right down the line…
After that they are disposable…
Here is a good assessment from Paul Craig Roberts…

‘In America Government is not in the hands of its people. Government is in the hands of a ruling oligarchy. Oligarchic rule prevails regardless of electoral outcomes. The American people are entering a world of slavery more severe than anything that previously existed. Without jobs, dependent on their masters for trickle-down benefits that are always subject to being cut, and without voice or representation, Americans, except for the One Percent, are becoming the most enslaved people in history….’

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/09/29/us-economy-failing-paul-craig-roberts/
PS…I would not discount the idea some have mentioned about the true nature of FEMA and detention camps…let’s not forget that DHS bought 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition…for what…?

Posted by: flankerbandit | Sep 30 2017 14:23 utc | 122

Puerto Ricans speak Spanish just like Cubans, Mexicans and Venezuelans. Anybody with a lick of sense knows real Americans speak only English. They are lucky we haven’t bombed them, sanctioned them or built a wall around the island and made them pay for it.

Posted by: RenoDino | Sep 30 2017 14:33 utc | 123

flankerbandit cites Paul Craig Roberts:
… Americans, except for the One Percent, are becoming the most enslaved people in history…
yeah, and in at least one sense, they already are!
Americans account for 99 percent of the world’s hydrocodone (Vicodin) consumption, 80 percent of the world’s oxycodone (Percocet and Oxycontin) consumption and 65 percent of the world’s hydromorphone (Dilaudid) consumption, according to the New York Times (link)
the article has a bit of self-righteous spin in it, but the numbers are really staggering.

Posted by: john | Sep 30 2017 15:16 utc | 124

…except for the One Percent…
the pharmaceutical industry brought in more than one trillion dollars in 2014!

Posted by: john | Sep 30 2017 15:27 utc | 125

Katrina was the emblematic ex. as many have pointed out. Blacks die lose their homes whatever etc. who cares.
What is missing from the analytic stabs is, being ‘mild’ here, relating a certain form of liberalism (economic not the ‘left’) to disasters. Ok this is general.
Tough luck shit happens; a matter for personal charity at best – e.g. helping a neighbor not drown, giving some money for stranded children, praying for xzy, etc.
Closer to the ground any “natural” disaster presents multiple glorious opportunities!
There are bodies, desperate ppl, children left alone, —> trafficking — and humanitarian aid can make a bundle – even light support from charity funds, for the smaller grafters the oppos are excellent, e.g. in the ‘refugee’ ‘asylum seeker’ ‘catastrophe victim’ biz, to for now bundle all that together.
Salvage and theft is a low tier yet lucrative biz with some organisation needed i.e. transport and client lists. It can go larger scale with some specific aim, org.
Then, one tier up, there is confiscation / take over / buy-over of resources, legal or not or forced, such as real estate / land / productive facilites, others such as drug production, banking and money laundering, etc. A small and clever crowd can totally take over the devastated area, even a country.
A last aspect is the re-building, relief, etc. contracts.
They don’t call it catastrophe capitalism for nothing.
Nobody is really interested in ‘saving’ anybody, the sob-sob TV stories are ersatz justificatory emotion..

Posted by: Noirette | Sep 30 2017 17:29 utc | 126

More on Puerto Rico’s corrupt government, FEMA stupidity and abusiveness and the slow medical support response by the US Government. Seems like the USNS Comfort hospital ship may actually arrive in 3-5 days.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/09/29/memento-mori-a-requiem-for-puerto-rico/
In other news. the US military officer being hung out to dry as a scapegoat (Paveway IV comment) for the Trump administration is calling the relief effort inadequate.

Posted by: Krollchem | Sep 30 2017 17:52 utc | 127

Relief supplies piling up at port; no way to distribute. Roads a mess..etc. I hear excuses! Why are there not squadrons of Army and National Guard Blackhawk helicopters (including the many DHS flies), V-22 Ospreys, and Navy helicopters lifting containers of food, water, shelter and distributing them to regions? On return flight they can bring in the injured, sick and old to get help. Or are they only reserved for dropping explosives on non-white poor people?

Posted by: Pajarito | Sep 30 2017 18:13 utc | 128

@127 noirette.. quote “They don’t call it catastrophe capitalism for nothing.” that was driven home recently in naomi kliens book ‘no’ where she points out vp pence role in trying to capitalize on others suffering… read her book for more info.
whether they are intentionally doing this to puerto rico – i will say this… some folks want to be connected with others which implies helping others.. some continue to live in a world of ‘me against them’.. the financial system at present favours the later… until it changes, we will continue down this divided road… what i am hopeful is that more people will realize how we are in it together.. the 1% will be the last to ever recognize this.. no use waiting – we must get on with building a better world that is inclusive, as opposed to exclusive..
@129 pajarito… the armed forces role seems primarily for making war in other parts of the world… humanitarian actions come across as very secondary to me, although that is also how the wars get pitched..

Posted by: james | Sep 30 2017 18:23 utc | 129

@JaimeInTexas | Sep 29, 2017 1:33:33 PM | 70
You say: “The time to prepare is before the crisis. Well, the crisis is here, winter has arrived, and because they chose and wrongly now they want all who sacrifice to make prudent choices in their life to come, nay, demand we rescue. This apply not just to PR.”
Shouldn’t you compare this to the Harvery response by Trump in Texas?

The Trump administration on Friday asked Congress for a higher-than-expected $7.85 billion as part of an initial request for funds in response to Hurricane Harvey, with an additional request expected by the end of this month.
The initial amount requested for Harvey relief was higher than the $5.95 billion figure administration officials floated earlier in the day. The bulk of the initial request will go to FEMA, which is rapidly burning through cash as the primary agency handling disaster relief. The remainder of the emergency funding request, about $450 million, will go to the Small Business Administration, which is doling out disaster recovery loans to homes and businesses damaged by the storm. – CNN Sept 2 2017

This isn’t supposed to be some partisan politics game, this is supposed to be a basic function of government, assisting recovery after a disaster. Good discussion here:
Miami Herald FEMA in Puerto Rico
The larger point is, we have a corrupt government that can’t even handle infrastructure upkeep, let alone infrastructure improvements. That’s why a lot of the country is sliding towards Third World status.

Posted by: nonsense factory | Sep 30 2017 19:29 utc | 130

@Bolt | Sep 29, 2017 11:39:55 PM | 110
It should not be that difficult to figure out that organization of that scale must be of centralized character. It is just plain logic.
Now, I admit, if you are coming from the US it not be that logical. But there are governments that help its people and not kill them with goons in police uniforms. It is not concept it happens in real life.
To leave local people to handle disaster relief efforts is out of question since they do not have a resources nor abilities.
http://www.cubagob.cu/otras_info/minfar/defensa_ingles/idefcivil/idefcivil.htm
This link provide clues and evidences that the Civil Defense IS part of National Defense.
From their website:
“Civil Defense is envisaged as a state system of defense measures, carried out in peacetime and during exceptional situations, with the aim of protecting the population and the national economy against enemy destruction and in cases of natural disasters or other types of catastrophes, as well as of the consequences of environmental degradation”
http://www.havanatimes.org/?p=81239
“The secretary of the Communist Party in the affected province becomes the head of Civil Defense and organizes all measures aimed at the protection of the public and material resources.”
“However the provincial secretary of the Communist Party couldn’t do anything without the “Defense Zones,” the organizational foundation on which the National Civil Defense system is built. It is a hierarchical structure composed of the residents and exists in each neighborhood or town on the island.”
So the National Civil Defense system is part of the Ministry of Defense that handle, in this case, natural disaster and otherwise may handle help of victims of Amerikkaans bombing and the like.
To say that local people handle relief effort alone is just ridiculous and stupid.

Posted by: Chauncey Gardiner | Sep 30 2017 22:06 utc | 131

@ pscychohistorian
I take your point about monotheistic religions, but humans create those religions.
I always go back to English enclosures and how the English aristocracy ousted their own peasants from their lands, when no other aristocracy that I know have ever done that to their own, and how this started in a period when Jews had been expelled so we can’t exactly blame them for it. When they had been deprived of the means to live and were essentially homeless, English rural dwellers of modest means were then treated with unspeakable cruelty when they tried to forage for a living; their ears were cut off for a first offence and they were either hanged or transported for later offences as benign as fishing in a river (See Barbara and J.L. Hammond’s The Village Labourer). The barbarity continued in Ireland and in Scotland (the Highland Clearances – see the brilliant work of John Prebble on this).
The English then exported their barbarity far and wide, to supersede the Spanish in places like Puerto Rico, which remained independent for twelve hours between the Spanish and American takeovers. The brilliant and late lamented Eduardo Galleano charted what occurred in Latin America in his “Open Veins of Latin America.”

Posted by: Lochearn | Sep 30 2017 22:27 utc | 132

@ Lochearn who wrote: “I take your point about monotheistic religions, but humans create those religions.”
Exactly my point. The hubris of a species that knows a little bit about this stuff we call matter that makes up less than 5% of the universe to create mythical gods in its likeness centuries ago and demand fealty to them to this day is laughably sad. And add to that blind faith BS to the centuries old fealty to the God of Mammon, its acolyte families and our subsequent social structure.
As you report and provide literary references to, the evolution from the Feudal era with enclosure rules and the shrinking Commons and codifying of private property and inheritance laws set the social organization we exist under today in the Western world….mostly.
As a species I think we don’t do a very good job at looking at ourselves in evolutionary context, nor have we built social systems that are designed to evolve with our changing socio/economic situation. I see the reason we don’t because those in ownership of the various parts don’t want to lose power and control. I was brought up being told that the rich were the best and brightest and their inherited leadership abilities were a given…..One of the Big Lies we live as a species.
I believe we can be a civilization that would respond to Puerto Rico with the same compassion and immediacy the would be provided to any/all in such dire straights because of mother nature.
The US infrastructure is not in much better shape that PR and both are being thrown under the bus so the military can impose/maintain Western Democracy (read under jackboot of prIvate finance) in the various nations.
I am hopeful that what we are seeing is the end of our God of Mammon/private finance social system. Anything has to be a humanistic improvement.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 1 2017 2:53 utc | 133

Its a matter of priority.
‘Conspiracy theory’ aside,
You really couldnt fault the USN’s [sic] efficiency in R2P during the Asian tsunami.
‘As if by magic, the Pentagon managed to have two battle groups ready to sail at an instant’s notice from Hong Kong and Guam during the normally chaotic Christmas to New Year period. Crikey! Military discipline has come a hell of a long way since my day, when everyone including the ship’s cat was sleeping it off at some highly questionably hostelry or another. Not these 10,000+ Americans though, who must have been standing rigidly to attention beside their hammocks day and night, tugging furiously at their forelocks whenever an officer of NCO came in sight.’
http://www.reformation.org/joevialls.html

Posted by: denk | Oct 1 2017 2:59 utc | 134

It seems it took the US 2 days to get 8000 troops into Haiti, but 8 days to get 4000 troops into Puerto Rico.

If I recall correctly, the US military was coincidentally (?) already doing exercises related to going into Haiti at the time of the earthquake. (Personally, I suspect the earthquake was man-made, but that’s just a suspicion. It does appear that the US was looking for an excuse to go into Haiti again, however.)

Posted by: RudyM | Oct 1 2017 16:21 utc | 135

More precise details here (that wasn’t too hard to find): https://www.globalresearch.ca/a-haiti-disaster-relief-scenario-was-envisaged-by-the-us-military-one-day-before-the-earthquake/17122
Apologies if this posts in duplicate. Can’t seem to get it to post.

Posted by: RudyM | Oct 1 2017 16:27 utc | 136

Even if it were device-driven, like a hacked cell phone that suddenly screams 22,000Hz at 125dB, how would it only affect just individuals and not anyone nearby? I mean, this would take out mice and parrots, right?

@stumpy, it certainly reminds me of things I’ve read over the years from various “nuts” (including, for instance, 9/11 researcher Gerard Holmgren’s reports of experiencing something like these attacks). God knows what sort of things the CIA, etc. actually have access to, but the idea of it being pinpoint and very directed seems plausible. Perhaps some sort of directed energy weapon.

Posted by: RudyM | Oct 1 2017 19:13 utc | 137

As for federal government relief efforts: too little too late, to say the least. It was obvious pretty quickly that this was a major disaster. Have been sending messages to elected officials reminding them that Puerto Ricans are US citizens and we don’t seem to have trouble mobilizing troops for wars of aggression world-wide, so how about a serious disaster response?

Posted by: RudyM | Oct 1 2017 20:21 utc | 138

RudyM 138
William Cohen, 1997
‘ some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. ‘
INDEED.
‘there are plenty of ingenious minds lowlifes out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. ‘
Say who ???
[hint]
If ‘others’ {sic] are doing it, do you think uncle sham would sit on his ass and do nuthin ?
Pentagon’s doctrine is to keep at least one generation ahead of the competition innit ??
hhhhhh

Posted by: denk | Oct 2 2017 1:59 utc | 139

>>>>> Ghostship | Sep 29, 2017 5:02:34 PM | 89

Cholera could soon be a problem

Well it is for Paul Krugman:

NYT’s Paul Krugman Falsely Blames ‘Trumpie’ For Non-Existent Cholera Outbreak In Puerto RicoPaul Krugman, the anti-Trump New York Times columnist, blamed President Trump — who he derisively referred to as “Trumpie” — for a cholera outbreak in Puerto Rico that has not actually occurred.
The Noble Prize winning economist claimed on Twitter Saturday that cholera had spread through the U.S. territory in the wake of Hurricane Maria, a devastating Category 4 storm that hit on Sept. 20.

He has grudgingly admitted his mistake but as usual, the original tweet gets far more coverage than the correction. 14K retweets & 32K likes v 559 retweets and 1.6K likes respectively.

Posted by: Ghostship | Oct 2 2017 8:57 utc | 140

denk 135
Another ‘humanitarian’ mission thats superbly
efficient,
‘The highly coordinated and massive military response from the US makes sense if it took only one “switch” to mobilize 20,000 US troops, an aircraft carrier, the USS Bataan prison ship, CIA drones and a vast array of high-tech equipment in what is unmistakably a sophisticated plan of invasion. Other revelations compound the sinister implications of the Pentagon’s “exercise.” Lt. Gen. Ken Keen, deputy director of U.S. Southern Command, flew into Port-au-Prince on the morning of the 12th and was outdoors along with all but one of his team of officers when the quake struck at 5pm. Keen is now overseeing U.S. military operations as commander of Joint Task Force Haiti. ‘
https://www.sott.net/article/202731-Connecting-the-Dots-Mass-murder-in-Haiti-plane-madness-in-the-skies

Posted by: denk | Oct 4 2017 8:46 utc | 141

2008 Cyclone Nagis devastated Myanmar…….
The U.S. government has been insisting that the Pentagon be given the right to deliver assistance with its own personnel and equipment. Evidently, this rich imperialist country has no other way to deliver humanitarian relief except at the end of a bayonet.
Many other countries, however, have found non-military ways to provide immediate assistance. The Myanmar state radio has reported that international humanitarian aid has poured in from China, India, Japan, Singapore, Italy, Bangladesh, Laos and Thailand. Arriving at the Yangon International Airport with their respective aircraft were tents, mosquito nets, power generators, medicines, water purifiers, dry potato and pork, instant noodles, biscuits, cloth, zinc sheets, hammers and nails, and candles.
The U.S. government expresses outrage that Myanmar, while it accepts aid, will not allow foreign personnel to oversee its distribution. The government-run newspaper New Light of Myanmar on May 9 explained why this is so: “The Pentagon is desperate to station their military bases in our country.”
U.S. Air Force and naval vessels, including the US C-130 military aircraft now in neighboring Thailand, and the USS Kitty Hawk and USS Nimitz naval warships, are currently on standby in nearby waters. … Policymakers in Washington are now no doubt weighing the potential pros and cons of a pre-emptive humanitarian mission in a geo-strategically pivotal and suddenly weakened country.” (Asia Times 0nline, May 10)
In any ‘humanitarian’ mission,
Here’s the bottom line….
UNCLE SHAM,
Whats’s in it for ME ?
[Using the excuse of a humanitarian mission in famine-stricken Somalia, the U.S. pushed through a U.N. resolution allowing Marines to occupy the capital of Mogadishu in December 1992.]
hhhhhhhhhh
https://www.globalresearch.ca/myanmar-cyclone-u-s-hostility-hampers-relief/9003

Posted by: denk | Oct 7 2017 16:14 utc | 142

Black Hawk Down
‘How many here saw the recent Hollywood movie Black Hawk Down? Some of you . . . For those who didn’t get to see it, the plot, or that which passed for one, was pretty much your standard GI Joe type flick. It takes place in 1993 famine stricken Somalia, and the soldiers are there to provide humanitarian relief and catch some bad guys. Some of the soldiers believe wholeheartedly in the mission, and some say they’re just there to kill, or because they really dig being around other soldiers. In any event, the mission goes haywire, and 19 U.S. soldiers get killed, along with at least 1,000 Somalis.
The movie paints the U.S. intervention in Somalia as a humanitarian one, but one that unfortunately, proved unsuccessful because the Somalian people were, at best, prevented from benefiting from this benevolence due to the interference of Somalian warlords, or, at worst, were just too plain stupid and belligerent to resist looking a gift horse in the mouth. As a result the U.S. pulled out of Somalia.
But Hollywood has been known to distort things in the past……………
http://web.archive.org/web/20091026191804/http://www.geocities.com/arcticreds/somalia.html

Posted by: denk | Oct 8 2017 1:39 utc | 143

long time no post, forgotten MOA doesnt like
webarchive link !
Sorry b ,
feel free to delete that messed up link,
here’s the abridged one.
http://bit.ly/2gjrIH1

Posted by: denk | Oct 8 2017 1:44 utc | 144

Beware of Trojans (or Googlers) bearing gifts.
http://sainthoward.blogspot.com/2014/

Posted by: denk | Oct 10 2017 3:39 utc | 145

wrong link above !
http://sainthoward.blogspot.com/2017/10/what-good-is-wireless-if-you-cannot.html

Posted by: denk | Oct 10 2017 3:57 utc | 146