The Neocons Are Pushing the USA and the Rest of the World Towards a Dangerous Crisis
The Saker

Posted by: virgile | Aug 20 2017 19:06 utc | 3

@ # 2 & 3: Thanks for both links. Utterly cogent and relevant articles.

Posted by: ben | Aug 20 2017 21:26 utc | 5

I have used Simone Weil’s “On the Abolition of All Political Parties” in a philosophy class. Her argument, as I’ll try to summarize: the impetus to grow and gain size and influence is essential to any political party, and sustaining this inertia overrides the thinking and living of the individual in favor of the coherence of the party itself as a mass; thus, we must eliminate the political party.
My students found this “contradictory” or “stupid.” People, they tell me, will naturally form groups, and because of this the group will operate just like she’s claiming parties do, so she’s not really saying how to get rid of this. I point out that she’s very deliberate to talk about fluids versus crystals, between how things form associations that are fluid, and thus on some issues folks connect on on others they disconnect without the pressure to sustain these changes as a stable identity —she points to literary circles as groups that ebb and flow with members and associations that do not conform to the logic of the political party. These are distinct from associations that are crystal, where aggregation and homogeneity and stable arrangement are more important for the whole to remain itself. So, I take it my students, despite getting up in one class, walking around campus, and sitting down in another class, believe that there is little to no difference in one collection over another so long as the reason for the collection is what defines the collection. (How they take their intuition as expressed in my class and think through intersectionality as expressed in another class is something I was trying, through conversations with them, to work out, because I find it helps me when I find my own intuitions about all of this so very different from theirs.) But I think the implicit part of their reasoning was that all of this dealt with force, the force they feel inside as pressure to conform on the outside with others, who are at this point for them undeniably also undergoing these inward pressures to regulate their outward expression.
But then I point out that music, or sports, or lovemaking, or dance, or a lot of other ordinary things we do enjoyably with others, show us how to form and move through groups because we share a similar drive or interest in something outside of both of us, and they seem to get that idea. I find myself coming back to this website just to read the comments, because I find it a refreshing change of pace, a host of interesting exchanges, and a good opportunity to face the perennial challenge of sitting within conflict, finding reasonable the disagreeing voice, and owning what makes myself uncomfortable with strangers.
If enough people share the desire to talk about things from conflicting perspectives, the conversations continue, but as people move in and out, the conversation itself changes and evolves. To shut down the conversation is to lock it in place, to keep it rigid and total. To walk away from the conversation in good spirits, is to hope that it will continue, in some spirit, some form, resembling how it was going before. To walk away from the conversation in bad spirits, is to hope it will change into something that either once was —in which case it can’t naturally and so only through artifice— or should be —in which case, being based on the limitations of our own perspective, won’t be open for the wonderful possibility of something entirely new and inconceivable happening in a conversation.
I sometimes wish politics were just conversations. I found Hannah Arendt to be one of the few thinkers who set the terms in such a way that I was liberated. Leftist thinking taught me a lot about fashion, I didn’t realize until later. Paleoconservative thinking taught me a lot about how much either gets suppressed or gathers dust in the libraries, and yet still smolders underneath the haunted foundations of our civilization. I come back to Zhuangzi over and over again. I come back to these rambling conversations under heaven, over earth, within the noosphere.
But eventually the conversation does end, and you have to hammer a nail to keep the walls up. Winter is coming. Wood needs cutting. Grains need grounding. Papers need grading.

Posted by: Charles R | Aug 20 2017 21:44 utc | 7

August 19, 2017
Will The New NAFTA Benefit Ordinary Citizens or Corporations?
From TRNN:
http://therealnews.com/t2/story:19808:Will-The-New-NAFTA-Benefit-Ordinary-Citizens-or-Corporations%3F

Posted by: ben | Aug 20 2017 23:14 utc | 9

Abby Martin speaks the plain truth about the Zionist regime in Palestine
http://thesaker.is/abby-martin-speaks-the-plain-truth-about-the-zionist-regime-in-palestine/

Posted by: ben | Aug 21 2017 0:05 utc | 11

Yves Smith & Naked Capitalism, utterly clueless, join the anti-free-speech fascists:
Speech I don’t like is the same as incitement to violence

Posted by: fairleft | Aug 21 2017 0:12 utc | 13

@3 Thanks.
Words do matter. The Saker is about the best observer of the emerging multi-polar world. The USA has been dumped in the trash. We are witness to whether multi-national corporations and their supra-national institutions will continue to rule or if mankind will survive their break up.
Donald Trump and his family have been contained; encircled by retired military and Goldman Sachs associates. However, Globalists and Neocons can’t help themselves with their deep-seated contempt of the little people plus the need for war for profit. Tearing down the symbols that reunited the nation after the last Civil War is a sure bet way to start a new one.

Posted by: VietnamVet | Aug 21 2017 0:43 utc | 15

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The Market Ticker ® — Karl Denninger — The Impending Eclipse: IMPORTANT
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=232312
You’ve probably seen various sites talking about safety issues. The issues are real, and what I’m sharing with you on this post is important. Read it, understand it, do not believe for one second that any of this can be trifled with and if you have young people around you make damn sure they understand all of this as well.
There will be thousands of people who will either damage or entirely lose their eyesight tomorrow and there is exactly zero that a doc in the ER or anywhere else will be able to do for you if you wind up screwing yourself by being ignorant, stupid or both.
Please do not be one of the people that have that happen.
Ok, here we go.
1. You have no pain receptors in your eyes. What this means is that if you destroy or damage your vision you will get no warning before the destruction occurs.
2. During the partial phases of the eclipse, all the way up to totality and when it ends — the sun’s intensity is enough to damage or destroy your eyesight in seconds or less. Worse, because the disk is partially obscured, your usual reaction to bright light which causes you to blink or avert your gaze may not protect you. Do not look at the sun during the partial phases of the eclipse, even momentarily. Your vision can be permanently impaired or you could even be blinded and the effects will probably not be instantaneous; the worst of the damage from infrared exposure takes several hours to show up after it happens. There are very cool visual effects that occur on the boundaries of totality but you are taking a considerable risk looking at them with your bare eyes. In particular there are two effects that occur right on the edge of totality — these are safe, but the boundary between “safe” and “unsafe” is literal seconds and you’re playing with the only two eyes you get.
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Sadly, a lot of innocent people will get eye injuries or even go blind. This is a complex event, and a lot of the light is invisible infrared and ultraviolet. People will get hurt and not even feel the slightest pain.
You can see the sun with a pinhole “lens” — it’s just a tiny hole in, say cardboard, and it projects an image onto a piece of white paper. You must not look directly at the sun!!!

Posted by: blues | Aug 21 2017 2:10 utc | 17

What the fuck is wrong with the USN?

Posted by: Ghostship | Aug 21 2017 2:35 utc | 19

@ PavewayIV with his Taco Tuesday Tin Foil Hat promotion in response to Charles R@7 comment about political parties
I am reminded of the movie “Being There” with Peter Sellers as Chauncy Gardner. Chauncy Gardner has spent enough of his life inside so that when forced out on the street he carries a TV remote control and tries to change the channel when the situation starts to get dicey……Unfortunately, I see most Americans responding like Chauncy Gardner and keep banging on their TV remotes hoping the reality they see changes.
Does Waco Wednesday follow Taco Tuesday? or are you staying with a food meme?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 21 2017 2:49 utc | 21

@4 @Madderhatter67.. thanks… i guess we can wait and see, so long as the planet is still around!

Posted by: james | Aug 21 2017 3:38 utc | 23

@18 ghostship.. good question.. bizarre how this has happened back to back with the fitzgerald a few months ago..

Posted by: james | Aug 21 2017 3:48 utc | 25

@23 almand.. you are not the only one thinking those kinds of thoughts..
i can’t remember where i read it, but quite sure it was someone here at moa the past few days mentioning how growth is fairly static nowadays.. the need for shocks to the system to shake up the markets for the disaster capitalists to profit has increased.. it unrest can be fomented in the usa or where ever, there is a good chance it will show up adversely in the financial markets.. now, who would want something like that? obviously not ordinary people.. however those folks who have made it their stock and trade to capitalize on exceptional situations would very much like to see exceptional situations develop for the monetary possibilities built into them.. that would include a number of the folks you have named in your post..

Posted by: james | Aug 21 2017 3:55 utc | 27

And under the list of further depths of hypocrisy there is this
Prominent U.S. religious conservatives defend Trump after Charlottesville

Would Jesus have owned slaves?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 21 2017 4:18 utc | 29

@ me who should have prefaced the last snark with condolences for all affected by this “accident”….sorry

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 21 2017 4:52 utc | 31

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High tech vegetation and substances?

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Aug 21 2017 6:25 utc | 33

https://sputniknews.com/asia/201708211056636043-us-navy-collision-singapore/
No cargo ship crew injured.
Cargo ships are doing well. Cargo ships 17, US navy 0.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Aug 21 2017 6:32 utc | 35

Ref Barcelona from the Spanish papers:
the “imam” who piloted the group had been caught with 12 kg of hash in 2012 and spend 4 years in prison. When he got out, he tried to find a imam job in Belgium, but when the Volvoorde imam asked him for a clean judiciary paper, he vanished. Next thing he was imam in Spain, no problem (where he had been in jail).

Posted by: Mina | Aug 21 2017 7:42 utc | 37

V.Arnold @33
White supremacy is at the root of the U.S. educational system; a thoroughly failed system, I might add.
that is why Obama sent his daughters to exclusive white girls school instead of the inner city violence infected schools

Posted by: papa | Aug 21 2017 10:00 utc | 39

Well, the U.S. Navy is showing its continuing incompetence; this should not have happened, twice, in 2 months!
I worked aboard a salmon troller in the north pacific and we had both visual and radar watches; this level of incompetence is beyond belief for any military force.
The U.S.’s enemy’s must be rejoicing at this level of neglect.
May the god’s help the U.S.; or not…

Posted by: V. Arnold | Aug 21 2017 10:13 utc | 41

Re: Posted by: V. Arnold | Aug 21, 2017 6:13:56 AM | 40
Frankly you are right, there’s no way this should have happened twice in such a short space of time, even more frankly, it’s actually all but impossible.
There are no such things as coincidences.
If you believe the likes of what the Fake News BBC are reporting what’s happened here accurately you have rocks in your head and probably also believe a bunch of Arab numpties brought down the Twin Towers LOL.
No, because of the simple impossibility of this happening twice so quickly using Occam’s Razor one has to conclude we are dealing with some sort of False Flag scenario.
Can anyone explain why the Deep State would see fit to attack their own ships and murder their own naval personnel in such a wanton manner?

Posted by: Julian | Aug 21 2017 11:19 utc | 43

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Posted by: ERIC BASILLAIS | Aug 21 2017 12:42 utc | 45

@44 ERIC BASILLAIS: what kind of virus will me computer be infected with when I open those PDFs?

Posted by: rush | Aug 21 2017 13:38 utc | 47

I must admit that I hastily misread that Navy is using hookathons for recruiting. Sadly, they do not. Plus they stopped making port calls in Pattaya. But there really seems to be a problem in the part of the Navy that is based in Yokosuka.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 21 2017 13:54 utc | 49

From good old days when the Navy had high morale:
6,000 U.S. naval forces invade Pattaya
By Vittaya Yoondorn January 12, 20120900
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The mobile ATMs and money changers did brisk business when the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72), accompanied by the guided-missile cruiser Cape St. George (CG 71), arrived in Laem Chabang for a port visit Jan. 6. Nearly 6,000 U.S. sailors invaded Pattaya for a five-day holiday.
Nearly 6,000 U.S. sailors invaded Pattaya when the USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier group pulled into Laem Chabang for a five-day holiday.
“There isn’t a place better that the sailors love to come than Pattaya,” carrier Capt. John Alexander told the media Jan. 6. “They get good value for their money, there’s a lot to do, and they can stay at hotels without breaking the bank.”
[what this story does not tell is that Pattaya was famous of something more than ATMs]

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 21 2017 14:00 utc | 51

Changing the subject.
I intend to watch closely what Brand New Congress is doing. It looks good.
If they manage to transform what they did in the Sanders and Corbyn campaigns to elect real people to Congress next year, the US electoral system has been changed.
I also like them going beyond the culture wars and supporting Republicans with the right economic and social agenda.

Posted by: somebody | Aug 21 2017 14:09 utc | 53

If we had the ancient Athenians’ system of choosing representatives and officials by lot ftom the whole citizen body, there would be no reason for political parties.

Posted by: lysias | Aug 21 2017 15:30 utc | 55

Re: Somebody @51
You misread my misreading. I misunderstood as “hookathons”, “recruiting hook up parties”. Hackathons do not help in finding crews for ships.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 21 2017 16:15 utc | 57

As expected:
America First? With Steve Bannon Out, Globalists Push for More War Abroad
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/08/21/america-eventually-bannon-globalists-push-war-abroad/

Posted by: Anon | Aug 21 2017 16:35 utc | 59

Russia’s New Ambassador to the US Is an Ex-Deputy Defense Minister Sanctioned by the EU
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/russias-new-ambassador-us-ex-deputy-defense-minister-sanctioned-eu/ri20713

Posted by: Anon | Aug 21 2017 17:08 utc | 61

I’m wishing good health for all, and thanks b.
Words and deeds together to see bigger views. Often The Word blinds us. Eg in some shitty little country, the folks stab or stone their own tribe mistakenly thinking them for Them Others. They can’t really tell how so very similar we all are, and where the cattle wear wolve’s clothing they only hear dog whistles and cattle calls. The story-teller’s role “is to shed light and not to master.” (Terrabin Station)
The Good Book was fake news from Babylon. The Abrahamic tradition is to loot the treasury, take the long way out of town, and write a story about how they were screwed over. Surely if we add a numeric system to the bs book we’ll find divine messages (value addled)! So, like , you know, right? Bang your head against a wall looking for hints, way better than the floor. God doesn’t live there anymore but we’ll take 20 % just the same.
What would Genghis do?

Posted by: failure of imagination | Aug 21 2017 17:23 utc | 63

Charles 7
That the American people should reject the current two hopelessly corrupted political parties is something I’ve thought of in recent years. What would replace them? No parties? or parties that have as a basic platform no money from lobbyists, no members of secretive groups, etc.
One of the things I got from Washington’s Long War On Syria is the idea of the Ba’athist party as nationalist and socialist but not of the Hitler model. The idea from Assad’s government (especially the 2014 election) was to allow parties but not ones divisive of the Syrian Nation State (like Islamist parties like Muslim Brotherhood).

Posted by: Curtis | Aug 21 2017 20:21 utc | 65

“The Pentagon has ordered a temporary halt to operations of the US Pacific fleet and a full safety review, after the second serious collision in two months involving its ships. ”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/21/us-destroyer-uss-john-s-mccain-damaged-after-collision-with-oil-tanker
The only rational explanation is the likelihood that there was a total lack of control – USS Donald Duck strikes again?
http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html
The whole of the US Navy – impotent? Directed Energy weapons?
From Wikipedia: “USS Donald Cook (DDG-75) is an Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer in the United States Navy named for Medal of Honor recipient Colonel Donald Cook.”
NB It’s the same class of destroyer – conveniently disabled in front of an oncoming vessel?

Posted by: fredjc | Aug 21 2017 21:32 utc | 67

@51 Well PB the annual visit to Pattaya may have been fun but it could be very demoralizing for young sailors. Fortunately these young men now have female officers to keep them away from temptation.

Posted by: dh | Aug 21 2017 22:05 utc | 69

Making America Great Again
Trump knows how to work a good hustle
While Americans who follow politics were obsessing over the latest ups and downs of the Trump Show this summer, real policy changes that are important to wealthy business interests continued to roll out of DC. In late July, for instance, the Senate confirmed David Bernhardt to serve as deputy secretary of the interior. Bernhardt was previously a lobbyist with the firm Brownstein Hyatt Farber Schreck, where he represented, among other clients, Nestlé Waters. Nestlé is not particularly nationalistic, but they do enjoy selling bottled water. Luckily for them, last Thursday the Interior Department decided to reverse restrictions on bringing bottled water into national parks.
The Trump administration was also hard at work last week on making it easier for nursing homes that provide substandard care to avoid legal liability. Like Trump’s effort to let Sinclair Broadcasting violate longstanding media concentration rules, make workplaces less safe for the people who work in them, reduce workers’ overtime pay, and make it easier for financial advisers to rip off their clients, there hasn’t been a lot of tweeting about these two regulatory actions.
Instead, Trump feeds the public a steady diet of racial conflict hoping that if he punches nonwhite America hard enough, white America will be so busy gawking they won’t notice their pockets are being picked too.
This is a time-honored hustle in American politics, and Trump grasps its operation intuitively. And he also grasps in a way that Bannon may not that “economic nationalism” is useful as an extension of the hustle and no further. Adding immigrants and the Chinese to the scapegoat list alongside the traditional African-American targets makes for a more compelling narrative, and it’s let him bring the scam to parts of the urban North that have traditionally been too overwhelmingly white for the standard race hustle to seem compelling.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/21/16165348/steve-bannon-economic-nationalism

Posted by: Rodger | Aug 22 2017 0:43 utc | 71

Piotr Berman | Aug 21, 2017 10:00:03 AM | 51
Indeed, during the Vietnam war the U.S. military turned Pattaya into the festering shithole it is to this day.
Well done USA!!!

Posted by: V. Arnold | Aug 22 2017 1:53 utc | 73

Charlottesville car-attack incident, 12 Aug 2017. Not a deep, thorough examination! (Mostly from raw footage on YT.)
The basic general description is of a strange 3-vehicle accident. Doing more, going further is a huge time comittment, notably to establish a time-line which is missing here. (I found it too difficult.)
Act One. The Antifa protestors are gathering at an intersection. They are all over the street. Around them, around the main scene, the streets are quite empty. A maroon SUV drives along the street, to the middle of the intersection where it halts. Driving very slowly, yet, it is hard to judge if this was nevertheless too fast for such a situation, with so many ppl milling about on the roads.
Ppl are sprawled on the bonnet of the SUV, and ppl are rolling away ‘below it’. (Enlarge as much as poss.) It looks like the SUV plowed into the crowd. The SUV stops; one can see ppl rushing towards those who ‘might’ have been / are injured, others are running away. Chaos and ‘injured’ at the intersection are already present at this point, or that is the impression one gets.
Indeed, many TV / news outlets showed this vid (or a brief glimpse!) saying “a car plowed into protestors…”
1. https://youtu.be/SQ-s3U38SpE
more on demand? It is long and will clog the thread…

Posted by: Noirette | Aug 22 2017 13:15 utc | 75

Act Three. Next, car 3, driving too fast, comes down the same street in the same direction and crashes into the back of car 2. It is clear that car 3 is not following car 2: car 2 was already in place. Car 3 is a Dodge, greyish, license plates GVF 1111 (Ohio) belonging to James Alex Fields. It crashes into the white Toyota and then rapidly reverses and scoots away backwards.
3. https://youtu.be/bdGlVyCWYAA — https://youtu.be/2K-Wtxmh1O8

Posted by: Noirette | Aug 22 2017 13:40 utc | 77

Another propaganda piece from Martin Chulov of the Guardian sourced from Reuters trying to tie Syria to North Korea.
The giveaway:

The report by a panel of independent U.N. experts, which was submitted to the U.N. Security Council earlier this month and seen by Reuters on Monday, gave no details on when or where the interdictions occurred or what the shipments contained.

So, a report compiled and submitted by God knows who to the UNSC becomes an UNSC report. Pathetic.

Posted by: Ghostship | Aug 22 2017 17:18 utc | 79

So, a report compiled and submitted by God knows who to the UNSC becomes an UNSC report. Pathetic.
Posted by: Ghostship | Aug 22, 2017 1:18:52 PM | 79
By the way of contrast, I was impressed. How to make an article out of thin air. Almost as impressive as an article behind the paywall of Daily Star (.com.lb):
A graceful gesture
Aug. 18, 2017 | 12:11 AM
Saudi Arabia, in its tradition of magnanimity, has refuted all the venom that has been aimed at its policies, traditions and values.
[the rest beyond the paywall, illustration shows a border crossing gate]

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 23 2017 4:03 utc | 81

77 Noirette, I looked at those videos and the drone video.
Surely, the two cars Alex Fields smashed into were stuck within the protests and faced his car ie stopped him. The beginning of the drone “video” clearly shows this.
The first video you show under 3 shows this, too.
The Alt-Right don’t claim he did not smash into the protesters. They claim it was an accident, he was threatened by them and panicked. Which obviously was not the case.
As I understand the strategy of these supremacy people – they want to start a race war in the US. Provoking university towns is part of the plan. Problem they have is that they largely provoke white people.

Posted by: somebody | Aug 23 2017 10:03 utc | 83

Act Three cont. The force of the last crash is transmitted to the other two cars. The commentary spews Oh my God Oh my God that Nazi was…ppl were pinned between cars… – on the spot at the time nobody could have know anything about the identity of the last incompetent driver (or perhaps it was assumed, why?) + imho nobody was pinned between cars. (Vid. 5. does show a black girl in position for this but she hops away. Later footage of the front of car 3 shows no blood etc., merely damage typical of a banal fender-bender.) Car reverses and driver is arrested some time later.
There is evidence that car 3 was hit with bats well before it accelerated and crashed (but won’t review that).
4. https://youtu.be/lU0K0KmSfBs
Details
Just before car 3 crashes into car 2 it appears to knock several ppl into the air, down, and round about. See from 2.04 to 2.08 in vid. 5 which is a compilation and follows no time-line. If this is ‘show’ with stunt bozos or represents some part of what took place Idk.
5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU0K0KmSfBs
All the ppl ‘fall’ back into the street. The first picture in the Sun article (as an ex. of a very well-chosen collection of stills in MSM) comes from this instant, but the pic was taken from behind by a pro (not phone vid), and arranged, imho. For ex. see the two Stop Signs. Both facing the same way — there is only one stop sign at the intersection, which is easy to check. There are many other anomalies.
Sun: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4233368/charlottesville-white-supremacist-rally-virginia-woman-killed-car-heather-heyer-first-picture/
bigger of first pic:
http://image.cleveland.com/home/cleve-media/width960/img/plain-dealer/photo/2017/08/12/-4f02cf1fe374fe45.jpg
Immediately after the crash of 3 into 2, several male figures approach the back of car 3 and start hitting it with bats, see vid 5 at 1.50. (Yes the time is span is long enough, if v. brief, to be congruent with other vids.)
The death. We see one smaller figure – a woman – sort of close by / holding on to the back of the car. Normal body-shape, not very tall or small, wearing tight dark pants, runner type shoes, most likely with white soles, her top is light colored, and she probably has a small backpack. (see 1.54.) At one point 1.54 she is horizontally in the air, with her head on the car, and her body straight out. She is knocked away, down, on the right side of the street (if one is facing the intersection.) A clearer view at 2.35 – 2.36 shows that she has a backpack and is wearing a cap with a visor. Later on, one can catch a glimpse of her face, at 3.05. The pic, very hard to isolate, corresponds to one of two Heather Meyers or perhaps to either. What was Heather wearing that day? Who was she with?
5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU0K0KmSfBs
I was not able to find the license plate of car 1, the Maroon SUV. Two people, the presumed driver, a woman with white pants with black zig-zag design, light T-shirt top and another woman with a dark skirt with white floral design and a blue top, can be seen exiting the SUV on the right hand side. Their faces are not visible. https://youtu.be/ZVUdjo7M0Oc at 0.10. Innocent ladies are spoofed by a crowd which ‘pretends’ to be attacked by crawling on bonnet etc. and thus come to a halt, having lost their way or whatever (?) Stage one of sketchy plot that is going to call in other participants (?).
The occupants of car 2, the Toyota, two sisters, are suing the Gvmt. for “serious injuries to their heads and extremities” as they were ‘shunted’ to this scene by various road-blocks. (They were indeed touching or almost touching car 1.) The driver of car 3 has been denied bail.

Posted by: Noirette | Aug 23 2017 13:40 utc | 85

I know I said before that I wanted to quit posting in comment sections, but I caught this on 4chan and it’s absolutely brilliant.. I recommend everybody to watch this. Whether right or wrong, the observations from Mr Atzmon are quite illuminating about zionism and modern society for that matter
Gilad Atzmon: The Cognitive Elite of Jewish History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hWl8jq4zLI

Posted by: aaaa | Aug 24 2017 3:07 utc | 87

aaaa | Aug 23, 2017 11:07:34 PM | 87
Zounds; what a listen. Thanks for that gem.

Posted by: V. Arnold | Aug 24 2017 4:39 utc | 89

Jim at 88. Yes I saw that story. It might very well be true. From here, during the Kosovo war, we had young ppl running away to fight. Under 14s could be apprehended, and were, 15-18 was very difficult. (After 18 nobody could do anything.) “We” tried. These young ppl who went off to fight — and many lost their lives and never returned — Kosovars and Serbs — rented buses which they shared, and packed full, to save money. Once arrived at destination they changed clothes (out of civvy gear) and separated. In the bus, in CH and Italy, they were civilized ‘Swiss-type’ kids, good at singing, sharing food, etc. Once on Yougoslav territory, they belonged to different camps. True story.
From what little I saw in the vids (but was not my topic, not what I tried to analyse this is just an impression) the slogans, speech, actions, and confrontations were very ritualistic and rather empty of heart-felt content. Not violent, beyond a silly stagey skirmish, which is actually what I (not in the US so?) would expect. Both groups obviously ‘paraded’ for an audience (cameras but not only, friends pix, selfies, stories to tell, being questioned, interviewed, etc.)

Posted by: Noirette | Aug 24 2017 16:13 utc | 91

@Noirette pooling your funds to hire a bus to cart you off to your own destruction at each other’s hands. That’s… sobering.
Thinking about the car incident, according to the interviewee the alley was full of both BLM (the very white BLM if the video is a guide) and innocent bystanders who were led out of the restaurant, and possibly other stores lining the alley as well. We ought to be reading and watching a lot of testimony from these bystanders and not having to rely on the segment of footage from this Brennan character, which seems devoid of context. If he wasn’t expecting to catch footage of a crime, it’s reasonable to believe he had been filming for some length of time and just got lucky that he caught the crime. In that case, the preceding footage might be able to show how the disturbance developed.
Do you follow Red Ice Radio? I caught the clip Henrik uploaded after the fact, where he talked about RIR’s websites going down and his iPhone losing all its data. iPhone isn’t verifiable, but the website attack is. That speaks to a serious effort on the technical side. Ironically, RIR dropped off my rotation because he had decided to focus more on the race issue and less on the wild, wacky, and weird. I don’t think he’s a supremacist, though.

Posted by: Jim S | Aug 25 2017 8:47 utc | 93

I am posting this link about India because of the last two sentences which I will quote after the link
Death toll of violence rises to 28 in India following “spiritual leader” rape conviction

”
Fearing mobilization of crowds and rumourmongering, authorities have snapped internet in Haryana and Punjab, reports said.
A high alert has been sounded in Punjab, Haryana and New Delhi.
”
Is the rest of the world ready for your government deciding if/when to “snap” the internet on you?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 26 2017 2:54 utc | 95

psychohistorian | Aug 25, 2017 10:54:33 PM | 95
Is the rest of the world ready for your government deciding if/when to “snap” the internet on you?
Hell no!
But given our collective sloth; what’s to be done?
After years of watching the lies presented as truth; and activism defeated; I got the fuck out; which was exactly the correct decision.
It’s worse now, due to apathy and a sense of impotence.
I see no solution; it’s too late except for those willing to die; but for that, there must be hope…and I see none…

Posted by: V. Arnold | Aug 26 2017 11:13 utc | 97