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Venezuela Coup “Could Blow Up Huge In Many Nations Of The Region”
by Debs is Dead
lifted from a comment
I see somebody has been blathering about the lack of 'democracy' in Venezuela as if it was the Chavezists who were to blame.
The president was elected by the people in a fair election and Chavezists also won the majority in the parliament/constituent assembly, the moment that happened the elitists financed opposition coups pushed out propaganda that was no more than libelous lies and began a programe of overt subversion.
They have continued this for the last 19 years and the irony is of course that if they hadn't done so and instead conducted themselves democratically they may have had a look in at government or coalition by now, but they chose what they thought was the easy way to gutting Venezuela's economy.
The result of the corporate capitalists activities has been the same as it always is when they push illegal acts of insurrection to try and force a reactive oppression – people lose and get hurt.
It is interesting to note that when the coalitions of street kids angry at everything and the sons and daughters of the once protected bourgeoisie hit the streets in their tiny bands to throw rocks and Molotov cocktails the police are very muted in their response – police in Venezuela don't normally carry sidearms but the riot police carry weapons that can only fire anti riot projectiles that are designed to hurt but not main or kill, they also have plastic shields but their actions have been much less violent than those of say the amerikan police – especially when you consider that more than 20 police have been killed in these riots.
I didn't get this info from RT news or any other oppositional news service I got it from the BBC who were desperate to find a shock horror story. They found a kid who had been arrested for throwing bricks at the police and he said that while he was locked up his interrogators demanded that he tell them the leadership or they would rape him "Did you tell them?" says Mr Beeb, "No" says the kid "so did they rape you?" asks Mr Beeb "NO but one of my cellmates had a black eye!" the kid responds.
Yeah right horrible oppression by those commies eh! The fact the beeb were in there trying on this story and running it on englander TV last night suggests that b may be correct when he says amerika is about to try and kick something off. The shots of protesters were all filmed up close – no wide views lest viewers see how few people were protesting, the entire piece could be regarded as a farce except that there is an undercurrent of amerikan violence.
As for the military – yes Cubans were brought in to train the army at the start of the Bolivaran revolution because the army was recruited from the ordinary people – not the usual younger sons of the bourgeoisie so outsiders were needed to train them. Some Cubans liked it so much they elected to stay on but the vast majority of Venezuelan military are local and if they seriously wanted to stage a coup it would be trivial to round up Cubans in a night and go in hard, but the military don't have any such intention, they are loyal to the head of state they swore an oath to.
I really hope that Trump and co don't decide that Venezuela be the victim of his need to divert attention away from his own travails – the result will be much worse even than the bloodthirsty contras of Nicaragua. The war will be long and bloody and it is highly doubtful that amerika could win without terrible violence. Even though the current governments in Central and South America are more 'sympathetic' to amerikan imperialism than those of a decade ago, it is highly unlikely that many if any will openly assist amerika because their own populations will go ape-shit if they do.
This (amerikan interference) could blow up huge and destroy the fragile agreements in place in many nations of the region.
For what? So that rich arse-holes can get richer?
#33. The Soviet Union did not collapse. It was sabatoged by the US puppet Gorbachev and party members who realized that the elites in the West had it much better than they did. Low oil prices that Reagan helped bring about that helped devalue the ruble helped convince more of them
China under Deng was coming to the same conclusion at the same time but chose a different path, paying lip service to socialism and keeping intact authoritarian rule to prevent looting by the neoliberal hawks in the West.
In Russia it was simply a free for all with the top party members carving up the wealth among themselves while the drunken Yeltsin pretended to be a force for Democracy and let the West run all over the economy. If not fir the US intervention in the elections he would have been a one term President
Putin has helped reverse some of the carnage but the damage was done and not totally reversible since the neoliberals had a hand in writing the constitution. Many Russians today look back on Soviet rule as the good old days despite its shortcomings. The same is true in much of Eastern Europe
Russia’s recovery from the disaster of the 1990s came about with the reorientation of the economy to one centered around public control of its oil and natural gas resources — much like Venezuela. Putins crackdown on a number of “oligarchs” helped. The smarter oligarchs compromised to keep much of their wealth and control and some are waiting to return to the good old days , so he has to be cautious. Putin reestablished a strong state to control the economy and Russia’s gross domestic product increased by 70 percent during the first eight years of Putin’s administration. From 2000 to 2008, poverty was cut in half, and incomes doubled. Of course, oil price increases helped in this period sanctions plus lower oil prices have reversed some gains
Venezuela was an absolute mess under IMF neoliberal edicts in the 90’s and is why Chavez was Democratically elected. His policies improved the standard of living tremendously , helped along by high oil prices.
Privatizations mandated by the neoliberal controlled IMF made life in Venezuela almost unlivable during the 1990s. Garbage wouldn’t be collected. Electricity would go off for weeks.
Chavez took office on a platform advocating a path between capitalism and socialism, much like China. He restructured the government-owned oil company so that the profits would go into the Venezuelan state, not the pockets of Wall Street. With Venezuela’s oil exports, Chavez funded a huge apparatus of social programs.
In 1998, Venezuela had only 12 public universities, today it has 32. Cuban doctors were brought to Venezuela to provide free health care in community clinics. The government provides cooking and heating gas to low-income neighborhoods, and it’s launched a literacy campaign for uneducated adults.
Between 1995 and 2009, poverty and unemployment in Venezuela were both cut in half.
“Housing Missions” have been built across the country, providing low-income families with over 1 million modern apartment buildings being constructed by the end of 2015.
The problems plaguing the Venezuelan economy are not due to socialism, but to artificially low oil prices and sabotage by neoliberal forces. Sanctions have exacerbated the problem.
At the same time, in Venezuela private food processing and importing corporations in the hopes of reinstating neoliberal policies have launched a coordinated campaign of sabotage. This has resulted in inflation and food shortages. The artificially low oil prices have left the state cash-starved, prompting a crisis in the funding of the social programs. Again, not an accident
Starting in 2014, the US puppet Saudi Arabia flooded the market with cheap oil. This was a calculated move coordinated with U.S. and Israeli foreign policy goals. Despite falling deep into debt, the Saudi monarchy continues to expand its oil production apparatus. The result has been driving the price of oil down from $ 118 dollars per barrel.
The goal is to weaken these opponents of the US which is controlled by neoliberals and Israel. These are primarily Russia, Iran and Venezuela whose economies are centered around oil and natural gas exports.
The problem is not big government and the evil is not socialism. The problem is government who cares more about
the neoliberal and elites interests than the general welfare of its people . The evil is the elites religion of neoliberalism and those who blindly follow this ideology -like parrots repeating words it can not understand
Neoliberal Economics is a tool of the elites to increase their wealth and power and has led to the corruption of Capitalism , turning the US and even the global economy to one controlled by monopoly (cartel) power from its ideal based on competition.
In a a perfect world you have a good blend of socialism and also both forms of capitalism (monopoly and competitive). The neoliberal ideology as turned this into a world looking more like 1984. An Orwellian dystopia.
Look at some of the countries which have embraced neoliberalism. Mexico, a mess of drug cartels and poverty. Nigeria, where oil exports are massive but the population remains in dire conditions. Already mentioned most of Eastern Europe.
Bangladesh, Honduras, Guatemala, Indonesia, and the Philippines have done everything they can to deregulate the market and accommodate Western ”investment.” Their populations have not seen their lives substantially improve as promised by neoliberals.
The hope of the West and World was that the Social-Democrat policies in Europe would a spread. Alas, they have been infected with the neoliberal virus and terrorism sponsored by Us-Israel and Saudi Arabia has cowed them into following the madness in the US. They are already doomed but its progression to US levels of dystopia will always be a step behind unless the merchants of death bring another World War to the continent
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Look at some of the countries which have embraced neoliberalism. Mexico, a mess of drug cartels and poverty. Nigeria, where oil exports are massive but the population remains in dire conditions.
Bangladesh, Honduras, Guatemala, Indonesia, and the Philippines have done everything they can to deregulate the market and accommodate Western ”investment.” Their populations have not seen their lives substantially improve as promised by neoliberals
If one compares the more market-oriented economy of the U.S. with more social-democratic governments, the inferiority of the “free market” can also be revealed.
The U.S. is rated 43 in the world in terms of life expectancy, according to the CIA World Factbook. People live longer in Germany, Britain, Spain, France, Sweden, Australia, Italy, Iceland — basically, almost every other Western country. Statistics on the rate of infant mortality say approximately the same thing. National health care services along with greater job security and economic protections render much healthier populations.
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The US has sold a bill of goods that fuels the perception that socialism or government intervention automatically create poverty, while a laissez faire approach unleashes limitless prosperity. Its Orwellian.
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#33. The Soviet Union did not collapse. It was sabatoged by the US puppet Gorbachev and party members who realized that the elites in the West had it much better than they did. Low oil prices that Reagan helped bring about that helped devalue the ruble helped convince more of them
China under Deng was coming to the same conclusion at the same time but chose a different path, paying lip service to socialism and keeping intact authoritarian rule to prevent looting by the neoliberal hawks in the West.
In Russia it was simply a free for all with the top party members carving up the wealth among themselves while the drunken Yeltsin pretended to be a force for Democracy and let the West run all over the economy. If not fir the US intervention in the elections he would have been a one term President
Putin has helped reverse some of the carnage but the damage was done and not totally reversible since the neoliberals had a hand in writing the constitution. Many Russians today look back on Soviet rule as the good old days despite its shortcomings. The same is true in much of Eastern Europe
Russia’s recovery from the disaster of the 1990s came about with the reorientation of the economy to one centered around public control of its oil and natural gas resources — much like Venezuela. Putins crackdown on a number of “oligarchs” helped. The smarter oligarchs compromised to keep much of their wealth and control and some are waiting to return to the good old days , so he has to be cautious. Putin reestablished a strong state to control the economy and Russia’s gross domestic product increased by 70 percent during the first eight years of Putin’s administration. From 2000 to 2008, poverty was cut in half, and incomes doubled. Of course, oil price increases helped in this period sanctions plus lower oil prices have reversed some gains
Venezuela was an absolute mess under IMF neoliberal edicts in the 90’s and is why Chavez was Democratically elected. His policies improved the standard of living tremendously , helped along by high oil prices.
Privatizations mandated by the neoliberal controlled IMF made life in Venezuela almost unlivable during the 1990s. Garbage wouldn’t be collected. Electricity would go off for weeks.
Chavez took office on a platform advocating a path between capitalism and socialism, much like China. He restructured the government-owned oil company so that the profits would go into the Venezuelan state, not the pockets of Wall Street. With Venezuela’s oil exports, Chavez funded a huge apparatus of social programs.
In 1998, Venezuela had only 12 public universities, today it has 32. Cuban doctors were brought to Venezuela to provide free health care in community clinics. The government provides cooking and heating gas to low-income neighborhoods, and it’s launched a literacy campaign for uneducated adults.
Between 1995 and 2009, poverty and unemployment in Venezuela were both cut in half.
“Housing Missions” have been built across the country, providing low-income families with over 1 million modern apartment buildings being constructed by the end of 2015.
The problems plaguing the Venezuelan economy are not due to socialism, but to artificially low oil prices and sabotage by neoliberal forces. Sanctions have exacerbated the problem.
At the same time, in Venezuela private food processing and importing corporations in the hopes of reinstating neoliberal policies have launched a coordinated campaign of sabotage. This has resulted in inflation and food shortages. The artificially low oil prices have left the state cash-starved, prompting a crisis in the funding of the social programs. Again, not an accident
Starting in 2014, the US puppet Saudi Arabia flooded the market with cheap oil. This was a calculated move coordinated with U.S. and Israeli foreign policy goals. Despite falling deep into debt, the Saudi monarchy continues to expand its oil production apparatus. The result has been driving the price of oil down from $ 118 dollars per barrel.
The goal is to weaken these opponents of the US which is controlled by neoliberals and Israel. These are primarily Russia, Iran and Venezuela whose economies are centered around oil and natural gas exports.
The problem is not big government and the evil is not socialism. The problem is government who cares more about
the neoliberal and elites interests than the general welfare of its people . The evil is the elites religion of neoliberalism and those who blindly follow this ideology -like parrots repeating words it can not understand
Neoliberal Economics is a tool of the elites to increase their wealth and power and has led to the corruption of Capitalism , turning the US and even the global economy to one controlled by monopoly (cartel) power from its ideal based on competition.
In a a perfect world you have a good blend of socialism and also both forms of capitalism (monopoly and competitive). The neoliberal ideology as turned this into a world looking more like 1984. An Orwellian dystopia.
Look at some of the countries which have embraced neoliberalism. Mexico, a mess of drug cartels and poverty. Nigeria, where oil exports are massive but the population remains in dire conditions. Already mentioned most of Eastern Europe.
Bangladesh, Honduras, Guatemala, Indonesia, and the Philippines have done everything they can to deregulate the market and accommodate Western ”investment.” Their populations have not seen their lives substantially improve as promised by neoliberals.
The hope of the West and World was that the Social-Democrat policies in Europe would a spread. Alas, they have been infected with the neoliberal virus and terrorism sponsored by Us-Israel and Saudi Arabia has cowed them into following the madness in the US. They are already doomed but its progression to US levels of dystopia will always be a step behind unless the merchants of death bring another World War to the continent
#33. The Soviet Union did not collapse. It was sabatoged by the US puppet Gorbachev and party members who realized that the elites in the West had it much better than they did. Low oil prices that Reagan helped bring about and devalue the ruble helped convince more of them
China under Deng was coming to the same conclusion at the same time but chose a different path, paying lip service to socialism and keeping intact authoritarian rule to prevent looting by the neoliberal hawks in the West.
In Russia it was simply a free for all with the top party members carving up the wealth among themselves while the drunken Yeltsin pretended to be a force for Democracy and let the West run all over the economy. If not fir the US intervention in the elections he would have been a one term President
Putin has helped reverse some of the carnage but the damage was done and not totally reversible since the neoliberals had a hand in writing the constitution. Many Russians today look back on Soviet rule as the good old days despite its shortcomings. The same is true in much of Eastern Europe
Russia’s recovery from the disaster of the 1990s came about with the reorientation of the economy to one centered around public control of its oil and natural gas resources — much like Venezuela. Putins crackdown on a number of “oligarchs” helped. The smarter oligarchs compromised to keep much of their wealth and control and some are waiting to return to the good old days , so he has to be cautious. Putin reestablished a strong state to control the economy and Russia’s gross domestic product increased by 70 percent during the first eight years of Putin’s administration. From 2000 to 2008, poverty was cut in half, and incomes doubled. Of course, oil price increases helped in this period sanctions plus lower oil prices have reversed some gains
Venezuela was an absolute mess under IMF neoliberal edicts in the 90’s and is why Chavez was Democratically elected. His policies improved the standard of living tremendously , helped along by high oil prices.
Privatizations mandated by the neoliberal controlled IMF made life in Venezuela almost unlivable during the 1990s. Garbage wouldn’t be collected. Electricity would go off for weeks.
Chavez took office on a platform advocating a path between capitalism and socialism, much like China. He restructured the government-owned oil company so that the profits would go into the Venezuelan state, not the pockets of Wall Street. With Venezuela’s oil exports, Chavez funded a huge apparatus of social programs.
In 1998, Venezuela had only 12 public universities, today it has 32. Cuban doctors were brought to Venezuela to provide free health care in community clinics. The government provides cooking and heating gas to low-income neighborhoods, and it’s launched a literacy campaign for uneducated adults.
Between 1995 and 2009, poverty and unemployment in Venezuela were both cut in half.
“Housing Missions” have been built across the country, providing low-income families with over 1 million modern apartment buildings being constructed by the end of 2015.
The problems plaguing the Venezuelan economy are not due to socialism, but to artificially low oil prices and sabotage by neoliberal forces. Sanctions have exacerbated the problem.
At the same time, in Venezuela private food processing and importing corporations in the hopes of reinstating neoliberal policies have launched a coordinated campaign of sabotage referred to above. This has resulted in inflation and food shortages. The artificially low oil prices have left the state cash-starved, prompting a crisis in the funding of the social programs. Again, not an accident
Starting in 2014, the US puppet Saudi Arabia flooded the market with cheap oil. This was a calculated move coordinated with U.S. and Israeli foreign policy goals. Despite falling deep into debt, the Saudi monarchy continues to expand its oil production apparatus. The result has been driving the price of oil down from $ 118 dollars per barrel.
The goal is to weaken these opponents of the US which is controlled by neoliberals and Israel. These are primarily Russia, Iran and Venezuela whose economies are centered around oil and natural gas exports.
The problem is not big government and the evil is not socialism. The problem is government who cares more about
the neoliberal and elites interests than the general welfare of its people . The evil is the elites religion of neoliberalism and those who blindly follow this ideology -like parrots repeating words it can not understand
Neoliberal Economics is a tool of the elites to increase their wealth and power and has led to the corruption of Capitalism , turning the US and even the global capitalist economy to one controlled by monopoly (cartel) power from its ideal based on competition.
In a a perfect world you have a good blend of socialism and also both forms of capitalism (monopoly and competitive). The neoliberal ideology as turned this into a world looking more like 1984. An Orwellian dystopia.
Look at some of the countries which have embraced neoliberalism. Mexico, a mess of drug cartels and poverty. Nigeria, where oil exports are massive but the population remains in dire conditions. Already mentioned most of Eastern Europe.
Bangladesh, Honduras, Guatemala, Indonesia, and the Philippines have done everything they can to deregulate the market and accommodate Western ”investment.” Their populations have not seen their lives substantially improve as promised by neoliberals.
The hope of the West and World was that the Social-Democrat policies in Europe would a spread. Alas, they have been infected with the neoliberal virus and terrorism sponsored by Us-Israel and Saudi Arabia has cowed them into following the madness in the US. They are already doomed but its progression to US levels of dystopia will always be a step behind unless the merchants of death bring another World War to the continent.
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