E.J. Magnier – Why ISIS Will Persist

June 11, 2017

Elijah J. Magnier has decades of experience as foreign policy and war correspondent in the Middle East.

Here is an excerpt from his latest piece:

The danger of ISIS will remain even after the liberation of Syria and Iraq: why?

ISIS benefited from immeasurable experiences of sympathisers who chose to join the ranks; doctors, engineers, university degree holders and many from all walks of life, including experts with large competence in propaganda. Those served ISIS and managed to create a regular magazine, radios and short films in many languages. They integrate the widespread electronic games with pictures of battles and killing in real life. An abundance of informative materials emanates daily from ISIS through the Internet to deliver ideas and messages to every home and continent no group ever had access to before.
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The way mainstream media is handling the war in Iraq and above all the war in Syria has had a devastating role and negative influence on various communities around the globe, mainly those previously considered as passive radicals but who never went into action. The media coverage has encouraged “lone wolves” and contributed to providing valid reasons for large convoys who joined in the exodus to “Caliphate land”. The media have helped mislead young people by adopting unverified and fake news related to the war in Syria, and in so doing, disregarded their responsibility towards the profession.
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In all places, US soldiers were part of the events, on the ground or in the sky participating in regime changes, building military bases and occupying more territories but leaving behind a fertile ground for terrorist organisation to proliferate and grow, like ISIS and al-Qaeda. Still today the US and Europe have not learned from history and still want to occupy territory: they set up four new military bases in Syria and are prepared to plant roots in Bilad al-Sham under the excuse of recovering ISIS-occupied areas. But ISIS will not be totally annihilated and these new occupying forces will face stronger and more experienced insurgency: history will repeat itself.
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More here …

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Deregulation, neutered anti-trust laws, begat media consolidation which created legal monopolies. The Mainstream Media – legal monopolies – owned by 6 corporations “parrot” and create disinformation. They are subsidiary holdings of the Congressional Military Industrial Complex.
They benefit from war contracts. They promote nationalism, patriotism, privatization, union-busting, low wages for the commons, and military recruitment.

Posted by: fast freddy | Jun 12 2017 19:37 utc | 101

Saudi Arabia becomes pro-Kurdish after Turkey sides with Qatar
http://hpub.org/Saudi_Arabia_becomes_pro-Kurdish_after_Turkey_sides_with_Qatar-59088/

Posted by: Daniel Bruno | Jun 12 2017 20:10 utc | 102

In my opinion, an important piece of the djihad construct is “imamism” of a special nature where agents disguised as Imams, instructed in the ways of the Quran as “entrismes”, direct their young or not so young faithful into the acts desired by the establishment at the right time.
Note that the remotely controlled actors are killed or blown to pieces, while the hate spewing “inspirators” are left alone to continue their nefarious preachings. After the fact one learns that the guilty were known to the authorities” or were “under watch”.
So the loop is complete. Those special mosques where these “radical Imams” profess are in fact intelligence agencies recruiting stations that are purposefully set up to provide the “chair à cannon” that will propel their agendas.
Then it is easy to understand the way so many acts happen at the “right” time.

Posted by: CarlD | Jun 12 2017 20:17 utc | 103

ff @ 101:Yep, Succinct synopsis of the reality here in the U$A. Can’t speak to problems elsewhere.

Posted by: ben | Jun 12 2017 20:50 utc | 104

CD 103 The FBI, CIA and other government agencies have historically worked similarly via agents provocateurs which join and infiltrate groups like the Quakers, for example.
This element of provocation was discovered in many terrorism cases (and downplayed in the media, of course). The agents often supply the equipment and materials for the unwitting dupe (patsy) to use.
Your theory is sound.

Posted by: fast freddy | Jun 12 2017 21:18 utc | 105

Re.91 :I read of a new mine in Pennsylvania that 400 applicants turned up for work but they had difficulty selecting the 70 men needed because the applicants with drug addictions could not be taken on because of responsibility needed at work for which they could not be relied upon.

Posted by: jocelyn braddell | Jun 12 2017 21:40 utc | 106

‘ISIS benefited from immeasurable experiences of sympathisers who chose to join the ranks; doctors, engineers, university degree holders and many from all walks of life, including experts with large competence in propaganda.’
so what we have her are sunni muslim professionals who know ISIS are brutal murderers massacring sunni shia and christians yet happy to join their ranks to fight what they claim is a brutal syrian dictator? does that make sense?

Posted by: brian | Jun 12 2017 21:56 utc | 107

@102 db
the saudis are just returning the favor … SDF Boosts Relations With Saudi Arabia, Praises Its Role In “Stabilization” Of Syria. the so-called yinon plan is now publicly embraced by the israeli-us-ksa axis. and the kurds are crushed in between them all.
any turkish troops in qatar yet? or is that just another of erdogan’s paper plays? the qataris need help so they can tell the us to move their – troops, not their base, which is qatari – to the uae, or where ever. i think the qataris ought to go with the iranians longterm. neither the turks nor the pakistanis can be trusted.

Posted by: jfl | Jun 12 2017 22:11 utc | 108

Pat Lang said something interesting on his site at Sic Semper T which was that Jihadi violence will erupt every 100 years or so because that is the nature of Islam. This seems to chime with what maybe Noirette was trying to say earlier in the thread or maybe not (see james’s comment).
I have throughly enjoyed b.’s baiting of the Colonel, at the same time as recognizing that Pat L knows what he is talking about and does have the balls to stand up to the dominant narrative, even though he is almost hopelessly lost ideologically…
There is so much of communism in jihadism. The Cheka bursting in on some guy who has more than three books and shooting him in the head, the Islamist who beheads the Shia or the guy smoking a fag. Both have an ideology which is seductive to the young.

Posted by: Lochearn | Jun 12 2017 22:30 utc | 109

@102 db
last line from your link …

It is still far too early to say that a new alignment has emerged but as the United States continues to lose control over its allies, it is increasingly likely that events could take charge of themselves. If this is the case, Russia which is the only major power to maintain good relations with all states in the Middle East, could come out as the clear winner.

…the us continues to lose control over its ‘allies’ … and is now just tossing bombs in the region. the empire of chaos. death, devastation, destruction, and deceit are now its only export products. i think the author is on the right track – russia … could come out as the clear winner – except that that view is too narrowly us-cold-war dominated. maybe lebanon, syria, iraq, iran, and russia could come out as the clear winners. maybe qatar and kuwait, too. and that last – representing the breakup of both the sunni/shiia fake conflict and the gcc – would be a real milestone.

Posted by: jfl | Jun 12 2017 22:31 utc | 110

The West created many violent organizations to aid their Imperialistic pursuit over roughly the past 200 years, Daesh merely being the most recent. It’s taken people almost that long to see what’s created in their name has no relation to advancing their true interests. Massive amounts of wealth are squandered by elites to fuel their pursuit, which includes masking their intent and involvement. But since Operation Northwoods was finally initiated in 2001, the world’s people have connected the dots, with few residing outside the Outlaw US Empire and its vassal states wholly swallowing the decades-old recycled propaganda. The new G-8, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, has the war to destroy Western-made terrorism at the top of its agenda; and as Putin stated, is under no illusions as to what area of the planet it will target next, as it’s already there. That’s why NATO will never willingly withdraw from Afghanistan; it must be forced, as that’s where it will centralize its support for Daesh in its next series of proxy invasions.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 12 2017 23:45 utc | 111

…
so what we have here are sunni muslim professionals who know ISIS are brutal murderers massacring sunni shia and christians yet happy to join their ranks to fight what they claim is a brutal syrian dictator? does that make sense?
Posted by: brian | Jun 12, 2017 5:56:53 PM | 107
Of course it doesn’t. For one simple reason.
Everyone is afraid of mentioning the inventors of the Fake War on Terror & Traditional Enemies Of Peace…
Jews.
One need look no farther than Jewish Occupied Palestine to see how Jews apply Divide & Conquer to people they hate, lie about and treat as sub-human. They’ve got the Palestinians divided into ter’rist groups (and only ter’rist groups) and have the gall to get self-righteous and indignant about the reaction of people whose land they’ve stolen, whose children they slaughter and whose lives they’ve been systematically diminishing for 70+ years.
The Jews who don’t object loudly and publicly, about what their Crackpot Tribal Bedfellows are doing in Palestine, are just as guilty of the theft and murder as the Jews doing the thieving and murdering.
If people want to debate the ins and outs of the Fake War On Terror, they should at least have the decency and wit to put the Jews front and centre of the debate. A Jew-free debate about the FWOT is as pointless and pathetic as the Palestinian Peace Process/Piece Process.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 12 2017 23:51 utc | 112

Here’s Ron Paul on US support for ISIS — and permanent war.
Why Are We Attacking the Syrians Who Are Fighting ISIS?
By Ron Paul | June 12, 2017
https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2017/06/12/why-are-we-attacking-the-syrians-who-are-fighting-isis/
Here’s Ron Paul’s last paragraph.
When you get to the point where your actions are actually helping ISIS, whether intended or not, perhaps it’s time to stop.
It’s past time for the US to abandon its dangerous and counterproductive Syria policy and just bring the troops home.

Posted by: Ronald | Jun 12 2017 23:55 utc | 113

@112 hoarse … ‘fixed it for ya’, as they say …

Everyone is afraid of mentioning the inventors of the Fake War on Terror & Traditional Enemies Of Peace…
Zionists.
One need look no farther than Zionist Occupied Palestine to see how Zionists apply Divide & Conquer to people they hate, lie about and treat as sub-human. They’ve got the Palestinians divided into ter’rist groups (and only ter’rist groups) and have the gall to get self-righteous and indignant about the reaction of people whose land they’ve stolen, whose children they slaughter and whose lives they’ve been systematically diminishing for 70+ years.
The Jews who don’t object loudly and publicly, about what their Crackpot Tribal Bedfellows are doing in Palestine, are just as guilty of the theft and murder as the Zionists doing the thieving and murdering.
If people want to debate the ins and outs of the Fake War On Terror, they should at least have the decency and wit to put the Zionists front and centre of the debate. A Zionist-free debate about the FWOT is as pointless and pathetic as the Palestinian Peace Process/Piece Process.

or are you really a Jew-hater?

Posted by: jfl | Jun 13 2017 0:04 utc | 114

Lochearn | Jun 12, 2017 6:30:11 PM | 109
“There is so much of communism in jihadism.”
There is so much of a Nazi in you dear Lochearn, or you are liberal therefore Nazi, the same shit.
It must be you have read the CIA’s scholar Hannah Ardent and her The Origin of Totalitarianism where she equates crimes of Hitler with crimes of Stalin. It is still popular in Eastern Europe regimes in particular supported by Berlin who would like to see Hitler in new rewritten “history”. That much about your quasi-knowledge.
And now there is new actors: jihadist, in old roles of the Einsatzgruppen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXC0wtejOg8. New home of Einsatzgruppen is the USA since WWII, a death is so much celebrated and new face of it is Trump.
As for Col. Lang, I honestly believe if you ask him where is the origin of Parmigiano-Reggiano he would say Wisconsin.

Posted by: Chauncey Gardiner | Jun 13 2017 0:05 utc | 115

@111 karlof, ‘That’s why NATO will never willingly withdraw from Afghanistan … that’s where it will centralize its support for Daesh in its next series of proxy invasions.’
that does seem to be the only explanation for the us’ dogged determination to stay … to ‘surge’ if mcmasters has the rump’s ear … in afghanistan.
but i agree, too, that ‘The West created many violent organizations to aid their Imperialistic pursuit over roughly the past 200 years, Daesh merely being the most recent’. daesh by any other name will smell as foul.

Posted by: jfl | Jun 13 2017 0:09 utc | 116

@116
… and there’s hope for afghanistan … afghanistan’s there, right next to iran, an observer state of the sco.

Posted by: jfl | Jun 13 2017 0:14 utc | 117

L @ 109 said: “Both have an ideology which is seductive to the young.”
Seductive to the young, especially after the empire, or one of their minions, has blown your family into a red mist, because of their lust for resource hegemony.
liberal, a definition:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/liberal
Demonizing the word liberal is getting old. Oh well tis’ the age of semantics.

Posted by: ben | Jun 13 2017 2:46 utc | 118

jfl @ 114: Thanks for asking that question of Hoarsewhisperer.

Posted by: ben | Jun 13 2017 3:25 utc | 119

Thucydides | Jun 12, 2017 2:18:03 PM,
It is not the Deep State doing it. (As far as I can tell). It is a people movement.
You will note if you pay very careful attention that Democrat politicians at the Federal level are going as slow as possible. Especially Hillary. She has been Deep State/drugs since Mena, Ark. and Barry Seal.
Hillary is owned by the drug companies. BTW a bit I did on the Deep State and their drug running.
https://www.spartareport.com/2016/04/trillion-dollar-drug-war-scam/
ben | Jun 12, 2017 3:15:19 PM
Nothing can regulate human behavior unless the humans are already into the behavior to be promoted. See Prohibition, Alcohol and Prohibition Drugs.
In general Prohibitions last on average about 50 years. Coffee Prohibition is an interesting example.

Posted by: MSimon | Jun 13 2017 4:03 utc | 120

karlof1 | Jun 12, 2017 7:45:53 PM
Islam has been imperialistic for 1400 years give or take.

Posted by: MSimon | Jun 13 2017 4:08 utc | 121

@114 I’m sure Hoarse meant Zionists..
@115 Arendt nor Ardent but your analogy to the Einsatzgruppen is spot on. If you can, watch the Russian movie Come & See for a chilling depiction of the Dirlewanger Brigade roaming the Belarussian countryside killing at will.. Much like Daesh are today, these sociopath were the bottom of the barrel of humanity, the tools to be used by a certain Elite just as sociopathic who believed and still believes in eugenics, the epitome of fallacies..

Posted by: Lozion | Jun 13 2017 4:15 utc | 122

Lochearn | Jun 12, 2017 6:30:11 PM,
T. E. Lawrence in “The Seven Pillars of Wisdom” said the same thing (every 100 years). Around page 148 in the edition I’m reading.
You can look for it in this (free) edition Seven Pillars of Wisdom – Laurence pdf
He also had unkind things to say about the “Wahabi heresy”

Posted by: MSimon | Jun 13 2017 4:16 utc | 123

jfl | Jun 12, 2017 6:11:59 PM,
The Israelis are very Kurd friendly. And more than a few Kurds admire Israel. The US is running arms to the Kurds. And “advisors”.
I think the Kurds will be given as much ISIS territory as they can take.
ISIS has served its purpose and will now be destroyed (if possible – at the very least run out of Syria).
You see – the Arabs and Persians have an incentive to quit fighting and make a deal. The coming Israeli pipeline. https://www.spartareport.com/2017/06/its-a-gas/

Posted by: MSimon | Jun 13 2017 4:35 utc | 124

@115 Chauncey
You know it is possible for a collection of dumbasses to misinterpret and then appropriate the work of a great mind for their own deluded ideas. Nitzsche comes to mind with Hitler himself coopting the great philosopher for nazism. And Arendt wasn’t excusing the evil of the Reich. She was addressing the cold and passionless death machine in its beauacratic ruthlessness. You can’t tell me that the communists weren’t organized in the same manner with regard to their gulags.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 13 2017 5:37 utc | 125

…
or are you really a Jew-hater?
Posted by: jfl | Jun 12, 2017 8:04:09 PM | 114
No.
I referred to Jews as Jews and not Zionists because you don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist. Being a “good friend of Israel” is sufficient.
Please feel free to continue the hair-spitting and obfuscation.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 13 2017 6:56 utc | 126

Brian 107
it makes perfect sense when you have been brainwashed that “the red are atheists are devils as are also the shiites” all plotting to destroy “pure islam” and that you did not receive sufficient education from school to understand that there is a contradiction between what you are told about the existence of “pure islam” and reality. there is a divide in your brain you cannot cope for and you try to find some answers (and look for somewhere with “pure islam” which usually is supposed to be an ingoing attempt at reproducing the prophet’s time, with companions and conquests).

Posted by: Mina | Jun 13 2017 7:32 utc | 127

Bhadhra had a post on US letting Daesh slip out of Raqqa
http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2017/06/12/russia-warns-us-against-attacks-on-syrian-forces/

Posted by: Mina | Jun 13 2017 7:36 utc | 128

NemesisCalling 125
Yes I can tell you the Soviet gaol system spread across nine time zones and seven decades was quite different to the irrational racially driven psychoses of the Nazi thugs .Start with Arch Paul Getty , Sheila Fitzpatrick and read through E H CARR and Westwood’s ‘Endurance and Endevour’ and a fairly accurate picture emerges.

Posted by: ashley albanese | Jun 13 2017 11:12 utc | 129

For those who doubted it, farewell Ignatius
http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/leaked-emails-expose-how-uae-and-saudi-arabia-work-us-media-push-war

Posted by: Mina | Jun 13 2017 11:50 utc | 130

Interesting articles about Iran having or being on the verge of having secured a northern route from Iran to the Med.
I include the Turkish article because the resulting claim that Iran is now supporting PKK was all over the Turkish news yesterday …
Whether true or not, I can’t say, but if it is it raises questions of Turkey’s growimg isolation – in concert with Qatar’s? – and Russia/Iran pressuring Kurds to their side … Interesting.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/iran-extends-its-reach-in-syria
http://www.yenisafak.com/en/world/irans-plan-to-form-a-terror-corridor-reaching-the-mediterranean-2715267
(Yeni Safak – yeah! But it was the best english language coverage i could find to post here. The story was carried by most ‘as-impartial-as-it-gets news outlets in Turkey …)

Posted by: AtaBrit | Jun 13 2017 12:00 utc | 131

And I suppose Christianity has never experienced any associated periods of violence…
https://www.usna.edu/Users/history/abels/hh315/crusades_timeline.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albigensian_Crusade
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_colonialism
Etc etc.

Posted by: PVP | Jun 13 2017 12:11 utc | 132

@131 atabrit

The news of the Iranian breakthrough comes from officials in the Kurdish Regional Government, the semiautonomous area in northern Iraq, and from an expert in Washington who has been tracking the Iranians’ progress. Kurdish officials have briefed the Trump Administration on the developments.
“The corridor is done,’’ a Kurdish official told me, speaking on the condition of anonymity. “The Iranians can go from the Iranian border all the way to the Mediterranean.” Officials with the K.R.G. oppose the Iranian road. In 2012, they rebuffed an Iranian request to transit their territory to Syria. They want the Trump Administration to help block it now. “It’s an Iranian road,’’ Fabrice Balanche, a visiting fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, said.

… the new yorker is a tool of empire as well. still no solid news on this item, in my opinion.

Posted by: jfl | Jun 13 2017 12:36 utc | 133

I will join those who thank b for posting this article, but not for the reasons most avow, which is that it is a great article – I think it has been part of the neolib narrative all along, though it has taken some reflection to be able to say that, and thanks to all comments here for helping me come to this conclusion.
I was also helped by staying up to watch Charlie Rose last night. The first segment was helpful, a well spoken Qatari who defended his country well and was politely addressed, mainly I suspect because Rose was hoping to have the Trump administration shown in a bad light, though I think the interviewee successfully dodged that trap. Second interview with a blowhard NYT reporter I turned off the sound after the first exchange. Third one was why I was watching, Oliver Stone. Well, I think he had all of five minutes to state his case for his Putin interview programs. Fine, Charlie – I won’t be bothering with you again.
But as others have been suggesting – the article was disengenuous, didn’t mention funding at all, and that’s crucial. I don’t care about ideology or even the shock of losing family to our horrendous bombing – if you don’t have money, you can’t do much. I don’t buy the ‘bad’ influence of the internet, because where would we be without it? Whistling in the dark, that’s where. And above all, I NEVER buy TINA. There is always an alternative, always!
For anyone who can watch Stone’s programs (I can’t, but will rely on the internet to send snippets) the crucial segment in last night’s showing was with Putin saying terrorism started in Chechnya with US support. Kudos to jfb@30 who stated that it started to emerge after the collapse of the USSR. Right on. Not, as Magnier and Obama opine, with the Iraq War!
FOLLOW THE MONEY

Posted by: juliania | Jun 13 2017 15:20 utc | 134

@132 PVP
For a closer look into the criminal history of the catholic church I recommend the historian and author Karlheinz Deschner (1924-1914), who wrote an enciklopedija (10 books) with the title “Criminal History of Christianity” (orig.: Kriminalgeschichte des Christentums). Many videos on You Tube (mostly in German) about the author reading from his books and various comments. And I agree: before pointing our fingers in the direction of other religions or believes, we shall consider the deeds of our culture(s).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karlheinz_Deschner

Posted by: maningi | Jun 13 2017 15:47 utc | 135

@129
Ashley, I am not going to try to conflate the Soviet system to the nazis in terms of atrocity (I am too unread and ignorant to try that). What I am getting at was the attack on Arendt, as if it was her fault for being brilliant and misinterpretted. Arendt’s main thesis was the institutionalization and mechanization of dealing with a government’s “unwanteds.” Both systems, regardless of the time it took to be refined and to be put in place, had it in them to employ overly harsh and wicked means of dealing with these impurities and employed ruthless propaganda to coopt the minds of otherwise normal and decent human beings into serving the death machine. We are talking doctors, lawyers, normal people who passionlessly condemned their own countrymen to death by overwork and starvation. But I guess the Soviets never did anything like that.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 13 2017 16:16 utc | 136

@128/130 mina.. thanks for the articles.
about iran extending it’s reach into syria…
why is it the west never discusses how it wants to extend it’s reach into syria?
of course the big difference is the west has altruistic intentions and all of irans intentions are evil – according to the west.. oh yeah, and the other big difference ignored by the west – syria has invited iran and russia into syria to help deal with the usa/uk/ksa/isis rats – but this will never be discussed in media outlets like the new yorker, and etc. etc.. all that money spent on propaganda is not having the desired effect on this poster…

Posted by: james | Jun 13 2017 16:40 utc | 137

MSimon @121–
Yes, but what’s known as Christianity has it beat by several hundred years, has inflicted far more damage globally, and continues to do so at a rate far exceeding anything accomplished by Islamic Imperialism.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 13 2017 17:38 utc | 138

138 cont.:
Andrew Korybko provides an excellent overview of where Daesh is likely to invade next from its base in Afghanistan: Tajikistan–“Looking forward, Tajikistan is without question the weakest and most vulnerable state in Central Asia to Hybrid Warfare,” http://theduran.com/tajikistan-the-next-front-in-the-iranian-saudi-proxy-war/

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 13 2017 20:40 utc | 139

Posted by: juliania | Jun 13, 2017 11:20:27 AM | 134
(Oliver Stone’s Putin interviews)
Yes, I’m optimistic. He got 5 minutes to promote it on ABC.au Oz last week, too. He said that Putin didn’t lay down any ground rules and didn’t ask to see, or revue, the footage which left Russia with him. He described Putin as frank, reasonable, and misunderstood in the West. Stone also nominated AmeriKKKa’s intel agencies as by far the most profound (and blunder-prone) threat to Humanity. He’s no fan of Trump but thinks Bush II was MUCH worse.
SBS.au is broadcasting the 1 hour part I of II on Sunday June 18.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 14 2017 5:21 utc | 140

@136 nc
i think the fact that arendt took cia money after the war while her assessment of stalinism as totalitarianism developed in parallel with that of the cia has given the old-time stalinists the ammunition they feel they need to pack up arendt with heidegger. i read her stuff and am impressed with her analysis. am unimpressed with anyone taking cia money … but she was far from alone in those days … The Cultural Cold War – The CIA and the World of Arts and Letters.

Posted by: jfl | Jun 14 2017 11:49 utc | 141

@141 jfl
Yes, guilt by association is a wickedly effective tactic of smearing those who speak truth to power with regards to the PTB’s false narrative.
I have read much on Heidegger’s involvement with nazism and am convinced that much like the majority of Germans caught up in the excitement, there was no intent or desire to annihilate jewry. Heidegger mistrusted both Americanism and the Soviet system for their Aspiritual approach to technology and human culture. Hitler, he believed was going to annihilate the detestable financial rigging of the world economy and restore Europe, most importantly, of course, Germany. Hard to argue with that train of thought, irrespective of it’s ghastly end result.
I am glad he never apologized for his involvement in the nazi party.
With regards to Arendt and the CIA: is it safe to assume that the CIA had yet to descend to the level of an assassin organization at that time shortly after the war? She also believed that alienating Palestinians would result in a Jewish militarism that would have end in calamity. Not far off.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 14 2017 16:48 utc | 142

A free preview of War Nerd interview with Elijah Magnier. In the main, the segment focuses on Iraq.
https://www.patreon.com/posts/preview-radio-88-11730847

Posted by: lally | Jun 14 2017 19:40 utc | 143

karlof1 | Jun 13, 2017 1:38:08 PM
Lawrence in his book “The Seven Pillars of Wisdom” noted that the Arabs didn’t have any mineral resources because otherwise it would be better if Britain colonized them. Since they were a pastoral people arming them for revolt was in the British interest since they could not arm themselves.
Then oil was found. Brits colonized with British Petroleum. They would just run the oil patch. No need to “officially” run the whole country.

Posted by: MSimon | Jun 15 2017 16:11 utc | 144

NemesisCalling | Jun 14, 2017 12:48:22 PM | 142
Israel offered peace many times. It was rebuffed every time. It probably started out as a bad deal for the Arabs and the deals got worse as the years passed. After about 50 years the Arabs figured out that no deal was ever going to be made so covert alliances were started. And now they are very near overt.
The Palestinians are being jettisoned by all involved as an inconvenience.
Also the Israel-Europe pipeline has altered the European calculus. Not to mention Syria. Notice “official” Europe getting a bit Israel friendly? You will see more of that as the pipeline gets closer to completion. About 2025. After completion it will be a defacto alliance. Dejure will take longer.

Posted by: MSimon | Jun 15 2017 16:23 utc | 145

The sign that the war in Syria is over? Iran is buying Boeing airliners.
What is going on now is the liquidation of current inconveniences to the desired future situation.
The Saudis will be giving up (some) terrorism.
T. E. Lawrence called it “the Wahabi heresy”.
So should we.
Seven Pillars of Wisdom – Laurence pdf – page 378 of this edition.

Posted by: MSimon | Jun 15 2017 16:27 utc | 146

The pipelines and partion phase of Syria’s war
Posted by: R Winner | Jun 11, 2017 7:07:22 PM | 64
There is no “pipeline phase”
There never was.
Anyone telling you otherwise is either uninformed, in denial or just plain ol’ lying.

Posted by: Just Sayin’ | Jun 15 2017 17:40 utc | 147

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