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May 22, 2017

The Orb - Wahhabis And Zionists Urge Trump To Regime-Change Syria To Fight Iran

There is something deeply wrong with what you do when even Satan feels the need to distance himself from you:

The picture is cropped but the original is even worse - the Wahhabi orb rules them all:


This swearing of an oath to the Wahhabi death star was part of the opening of the potemkinesk "Global Center for Combating Extremist Ideology" in Riyadh.


It is likely that all those flat-screens have by now been packed up again and the extras sent home.

The Saudis arranged the whole theater to flatter Trump into fighting Iran for them. The hope to have bought Washington's obedience. For Trump the whole visit to Saudi Arabia was just a show that enabled the weapon deal which allows him to keep one of his election promises. He knows such artificial backdrops from his TV experiences. He is used to superficial flattery. He uses it himself to convince others into a deal. I doubt that he will fall for it.

The Saudis and their Wahhabi brethren in Qatar are the root of extremist Takfiri terrorism all over the world. They finance the most radical and brutal groups of conservative Muslim head-choppers. This includes the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan, the culprits of 9/11, al-Qaeda, ISIS and whatever may be their next incarnation.

The U.S. knows this. Trump knows this. An email Hillary Clinton sent to her election campaign manager John Podesta correctly noted:

[...] the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, [..] are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region.

Trump prostitutes the U.S. and himself to the Saudi Wahhabi nuts to sell them more weapons. He hopes this will help him to fulfill his "jobs, jobs, jobs" promise to his voters. But half of the announced $110 billion deal is supposed to flow into "local content" of those weapons. It will have to be produced in Saudi Arabia. It is a way for the Saudis to build their own independent weapon industry with U.S. know-how. Over a decade or two the country will have achieved some independent production capabilities and will thereby be harder to control by potential weapon embargoes. It will proliferate its products to its terrorist proxies. The weapon deal is shortsighted and bad long-term policy.

The Saudi family dictatorship fears the Iranian example of a democratic political system within a Muslim constitutional framework. Iran's example threatens the justification of al-Saud family rule. Soon after the revolution in Iran the Sauds started a war by proxies against the country. The Iraqi-Iranian war was instigated and financed by Saudi money with the help of the U.S. and British oil interests. When that war failed to defeat Iran the Saudis moved their fight into a sectarian framework. They depict the Iranians as Shia unbelievers who are not real Muslims. They claim that their own Sunni-Wahhabi sect represents a majority view in the Muslim world. This is far from the truth even though Saudi money is doing its best to convert mainstream Sufi-Muslims societies like Indonesia into Wahhabi protectorates. It is funny how "western" analysts repeat the "Sunni majority" claptrap but never point out that Shia Muslims are actually the majority in the relevant Persian Gulf region.

The only sectarian forces in Iraq, Syria, Yemen and other places in the Middle East are ISIS and other Saudi financed "rebels". The Saudis claim that the Iranians are "terrorists" and "sectarians" only to divert from their own misdeeds. If the Saudis would really want to "combat extremist ideology" they would have to commit suicide. That indeed would solve the problem.

The east-European colonists in Palestine do their best to promote and amplify the Saudi view of the Saudi-Iranian fight. As longs as Arabs and Persians are busy with each other they will have no time to evict the Zionist occupiers. Their mouthpieces in the U.S. are now trying to convert the U.S. fight against the terrorists of ISIS into a fight against Iran. Witness the neoconservative propagandist Josh Rogin in today's Washington Post:

[T]he United States now finds itself in the middle of an escalating battle in the [Syrian] south that last week led to a clash between the U.S. military and Iranian-backed pro-government forces. If he can seize the opportunity, Trump could deal a blow to Iranian regional influence and help save Syria in the process.
Perhaps by accident, Trump is moving toward a Syria policy that is tougher on Iran and the Assad regime, and it’s having real effects on the ground.

“The United States has two major adversaries in Syria, that is Iran and ISIS. Both represent huge risks to U.S. national security and interests in the region,” said Mouaz Moustafa, executive director of the Syrian Emergency Task Force.

The battle for Syria’s south is on, and the Trump team must decide if the United States will play a decisive role. Trump could fulfill his promises to thwart Iran and bring greater stability to Syria — if he acts fast.

It is pure propaganda to depict the fight against ISIS Takfirs as a chance for a fight against Iran. Mouaz Moustafa is a Muslim Brotherhood stooge on the Saudi's pay-role, not a legitimate representative of Syrian opinion. Iran supports the Syrian government because Syria is an old ally. It was the only Arab country that supported Iran in the war with Iraq. There would be little if any Iranian influence in Syria if the country were not under attack by foreign supported radicals. Syria is a Sunni majority country. Most of its Sunnis support their legitimate government, not the Saudi paid radical "rebels". The Syrian government is fighting ISIS, the purported number one enemy of the U.S., with the help of Russia, Iraq and Iran. While Iran supports Iraqi and Lebanese militia fighting on the side of the Syrian government there are no Iranian soldiers there.

If the U.S., as it claims, wants to fight ISIS in Syria it can not fight "Iran in Syria". No Iranian force is there in any recognizable number. To propagandize such is merely a new push for regime change in Syria which would install Saudi proxy terrorists as the new rulers in Damascus. How that is supposed to bring "greater stability to Syria" is a Zionist mystery.

We can hope that the Trump administration will not fall for such claptrap. Trump is a salesman. He prostituted himself to the Wahhabi Orb to close a deal. I doubt that it will influence his mind with regard to any other deal he wants to make. Trump is still aiming for detente with Russia. If he launches a fight in south-east Syria against Russian supported Syrian forces under the disguise of a fight against Iran any deal with Moscow will be off. That is not in his nor in the wider "western" interest.

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To sum up US foreign policy: "Iran bad-bad-bad".

Posted by: Mina | May 22 2017 14:57 utc | 1

the Angry Arab has excellent info on the Trump visit to Saudi land.

Posted by: mischi | May 22 2017 15:09 utc | 2

Over a decade or two the country will have achieved some independent production capabilities and will thereby be harder to control by potential weapon embargoes. It will proliferate its products to its terrorist proxies. The weapon deal is shortsighted and bad long-term policy.

True, it is a very bad policy, but knowing who Saudis are it is difficult to imagine them dealing with anything which requires serious scientific and technological expertise. Producing hi-end weapon systems requires way more skills than just code writing in C+ or C#, those are industrial skills which Saudis never had and, most likely, will not develop to a sufficient level. Theirs (Saudis) shtick is to beat women, buy expensive overpriced junk from the West, run banks and avoid real productive labor at all costs. We already saw an ample evidence of Saudis being a "great" combined arms warfare "warriors" with all their expensive and shiny, mostly US-made and British, military toys. A disaster. But then, of course, Saudis can always hire some third world people to man their CNC, assembly lines etc. This is the Saudi way.

Posted by: SmoothieX12 | May 22 2017 15:26 utc | 3

Pepe Escobar's rather blunt in his op/ed about sTrumpet's visit to Headchopper Central, and ought to be compared to his story about the Iranian re-election of Rouhani,

Meanwhile, SAA continues its advances on several fronts, although the news blackout is still in operation as Canthama reports from the back online SyrPers:

"As mentioned few times, the black out info continues on eastern Syrian offensives (Central Homs-Palmyra and by the Jordanian border) and the ISIS collpase in Syria-Iraq.

"The last facts confirmed are:
– Troops continue to amass in Palmyra, Liwa al Quds (fought in Aleppo so far) are now active NE of Palmyra.
– Qalamoun Shield joined the fray by the Jordanian border.
– Iraq Golden Division about to move to Anbar to attack al Qaim border town.
– Iraq PMU clearly stated the will to help the SAA and allies, mentioning coordination in Anbar and Nineveh with the SAA.
– Yazidis fighters joining PMU in Nineveh, creating a unsustainable situation for Barzani’s thugs.
– Some Iraq Kurds joining PMU in Nineveh, clearly indication fraction on the so called united Kurds.
– Iraq PMU has advanced in Nineveh as a block offensive toward al Ba’aj and it is now some 40-50 kms from Syria/Der ez Zor Province border.
– SDF is attempting to advance in Der ez Zor, but few troops available may create an issue. ISIS is also trying to gain SDF ground in Hasaka.

"Regarding the front lines:

"Eastern Aleppo:

"The Tiger Forces continue to advance toward Maskaneh and Ithriyah crossing, recent gains have placed the Tiger Forces and allies in the outskirts os Maskaneh, flanking from west and north, while east faces the Euphrates. It is believed that the Tiger will repeat Deir Hafer all over, encircling and isolating it, not losing time in urban warfare.

"Around Palmyra

"5th Corp has re started the push SW of Palmyra, south of Mount Abtar, near the Phosphate mines. The intention seems to be to link up the front lines with the SAA forces coming from Zaza crossroad, thus cutting ISIS out of western Qalamoun and blocking the moderats there as well for future reconciliation.

"Liwa al Quds active in NE Palmyra, advancing toward Arak Gas field.

"Eastern Damascus/SE Homs/Suweida

"The SAA and allies advance in the Syrian desert is way deeper than showed in maps. The Syrian desert, as explained before, has very few villages, mostly small farms and small military bases. Controlling the roads and the supply lines are vital and means control of a vast area. This is happening as we speak, 3 different axis are in play, from Zaza crossroad toward al Tanf bordercrossing, from al Seen airbase toward the Jordanian border and a 3rd from Suweida bordering Jordan toward al Tanf.

"Currently the SAA and allies are some 40 kms to close a huge pocket which would trap moderats in a very dire situation in eastern Damascus. The roads out of the pocket are completely under the SAA control meaning there is in fact a pocket formed and moderats are trapped.;373548889;330052085;0;0;1098632;4090399

"Syrian and allies high command are building forces to the major push toward Der ez Zor, it is going to be a major operation and it is linked to progress in the Syrian desert (protect Damascus and avoid being flanked), cutting ISIS from Iraq, while pushing from multiple directions and pressing ISIS agains the Euphrates and and what it seems SDF as well. This is more likely a summer campaign."

Posted by: karlof1 | May 22 2017 15:29 utc | 4

Trump has fully abdicated ANY anti-Empire ideas he mouthed in the run for the White House.

To hear him talk about the evils of Iran, while sucking-up to KSA is sickening. Is there any doubt in anyone's mind, that Trump is the same kind of puppet as his predecessors?

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

I can barely wait, to see and hear the depth of his ass-kissing, while in Israel.

Posted by: ben | May 22 2017 15:41 utc | 5

Russia is facing a moment of truth. Soon now the Syrian forces will confront the US forces. This seems inevitable. Russia can no longer pretend to be for sovereignty and at the same time bestest pals with the forces (Turkey, US, Israel, Saudi Arabia, etc..) that are tearing its ally Syria apart.

Russia's two faced game is up, it seems.

Posted by: paul | May 22 2017 16:15 utc | 6


Hi ben!

I can barely wait, to see and hear the depth of his ass-kissing, while in Israel.

It's already happening, and he's not finished with the Zionist donkey yet; more to come.

This pathetic display of servility to the worst criminals and terrorists on the planet, KSA,
and Israel is vomit inducing and hard to witness.

Posted by: Circe | May 22 2017 16:20 utc | 7

I think it'll all be forgotten once the hullabaloo dies down. The Saudis have paid with contracts to be defended by the US. The US has got Saudi to sign, and also to continue supporting the petro-dollar. But nothing else. Neither Saudi nor Israel will have persuaded the US to attack Iran. It just is not in US interests to launch another war, a risky one, and the generals in Washington will be advising against it. Also it's not Trump's character. He likes a big, showy, bang, but he hasn't got the attention span to pursue a new military policy seriously.

Posted by: Laguerre | May 22 2017 16:34 utc | 8

thanks b.

what is wrong with the usa? their political class are a group of horrible liars and their servitude to saudi arabia/israel defies logic.. the fact that saudi arabia is terrorist headquarters can't be pushed aside thanks weapons sales and lousy propaganda from the zionist press... meanwhile the usa continues to spiral down into a deep hole.. i don't believe it can last long the way it is going.. trump is a liar and a jackass..

Posted by: james | May 22 2017 16:36 utc | 9

@9 laguerre... trump has delegated to the jackasses running the military.. there is no telling the level of depravity these dupes will stoop to..

Posted by: james | May 22 2017 16:37 utc | 10

Ah paul's back again I see @6.....same line....gleefully hoping for a few dead Americans. Just can't wait for Putin to step into the trap.

Posted by: dh | May 22 2017 16:58 utc | 11

Be interesting to know what weapons are in the deal. Planes, tanks, ships ect? or the sort of kit that can be loaded on a jihadi technical. Looks like Trump is screwing a few dollars out of the wahhabi's and trying to push them into a war with Iran.

Posted by: Peter AU | May 22 2017 16:59 utc | 12

@13 Anti-missile stuff would be top of the list. They will certainly need protection for Ras Tanura.

Somehow I can't see a fleet of Saudi landing craft making it to Iran.

Posted by: dh | May 22 2017 17:05 utc | 13

Meanwhile a cholera outbreak in Yemen may kill thousands.. You know I'm starting to think Syria/Irak/Iran should just obliterate Saudistan..

Posted by: Lozion | May 22 2017 17:24 utc | 14

re James 11

trump has delegated to the jackasses running the military.. there is no telling the level of depravity these dupes will stoop to.."
He hasn't had time to get rid of all the previous generals, even if he were making the effort, which I'm not sure he is.

Posted by: Laguerre | May 22 2017 17:27 utc | 15

No news regarding USA and Norway occupying or departing from the base at al Tanf. Here is an obvious powder keg waiting for a spark.

No telling what Trump really believes or what he will do, except to note that the most likely course of action (based on past performance and educated guesswork) points to the dumbest, most ham-handed move (which favors Israel, of course) and place your bet accordingly.

It is likely that his ignorance about worldly matters (like Dubya) is not act.

Posted by: fastfreddy | May 22 2017 18:08 utc | 16

17 "It is likely that his ignorance about worldly matters (like Dubya) is not act."

His irrational hatred of Iran is not act. A number, if not most of his appointees have the same irrational hatred of Iran. I've noticed this for some time and Mercouris at the Duran has an article on it.

Posted by: Peter AU | May 22 2017 18:21 utc | 17

mr trump is he man
by the will not of grey skull but chabad
he has the power and he serves knesset well.

what is wrong with ritual
before word we had sin bull.
thousand points of light or orgasmatron gay orb.
the empire of the city of london
created israel and the royal house of solomon saud.
what greater way to divide and conquest
trump said it today called the bearded man in a skirt king soloman of saud not salman.
no mention of donmeh here.

iran new hitler
we cannot allow israel to be pushed into the sea
by all the brutes and bullies of alquada and isis isil dash.

we cannot llow another 1939 like before.
israel will be fed the power of cern,operation ice cube,gran sasso neutrino stations italy.
the energy created from the french sun the iter tokamak will be direct into the greatest computer on the planet.
jerusalem and tel aviv will be the home of the king for the world.
what better homecoming for satan than energies harvested from all over the world
energy negatives.
mobile haarps and static beams directed for oded yinon.
it is all in place.

admiral bird talked of little america and the warm waters deep under the ice.
paradise below and vast areas not map drawn.

bibi is the one
all must kneel before the chosen
goy tremble when trumped and nuttyahoo say iran new hitler
they said it
it must be true.

Posted by: tony romaa | May 22 2017 18:39 utc | 18

if someone comes up for a word to describe this irrational hatred from the us-israel-saudi hatred towards iran, let me know... it's completely irrational on the surface, but a real specialty of the usa political class.. what a group of 'paid for' sickos...

Posted by: james | May 22 2017 19:00 utc | 19

@ Peter AU 13

In realty, the touted $350 billions arms deal is not what it appears on surface.

The arms delivery, whatever the make-up, will be in lieu of the Saudis’ excess USD trillions held hostage in the ESF. Do the math – over 45 years. Among other shenanigans, the ESF funds (off the books) maintain markets’ stability - paint the close green and other such illusions.
Saudis’ USTs will not be repaid directly, only through barter.
U.S. gets to eat cake and keep it. Also, U.S. needs to interrupt the budding China – Saudi alliance putting the RMB in play in payment for oil supplies. Saudis are on the short leash; the petro dollar maintains reserve currency status just for a few more until the inevitable collapse.

Extend and pretend.

Posted by: likklemore | May 22 2017 19:03 utc | 20

@6 I think Russia has sent some commandos to that area to provide political cover, so there might not be much more coming out of Tanf. USA kind of blew its own cover by attacking IMHO

Posted by: aaaa | May 22 2017 19:13 utc | 21

Syrian troops continue to mass on or near the Iraq border while Iraqi troops are making corresponding rapid advances on their side of the border.

Large convoy of Syrian Army reinforcements arrive in SE Homs for Iraqi border offensive

A large convoy of pro-government reinforcements arrived in the southeastern countryside of Homs, Monday, the official wing of the National Defense Forces (NDF) reported tonight.

I was confused at first by what Homs had to do with Syrian securing the Iraq and Jordan borders until I looked up the extent of Homs Governorate:

Homs Governorate

SE Homs Governorate is all the way down to the upper part of the Syria/Jordan border and extends almost up to the Euphrates River.

Posted by: sandra_m | May 22 2017 19:26 utc | 22

The Orb meme

It's just a hair drier for those bad hair days.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 22 2017 19:37 utc | 23

>>>> paul | May 22, 2017 12:15:47 PM | 6

Soon now the Syrian forces will confront the US forces.

Why do the Syrians need to confront the Americans or even their allies, the New Syrian Army NSA)? After all the Americans have claimed they are there to fight ISIS. Why should the Syrians make life easier for ISIS? Instead the Syrians should be rendering the NSA all the assistance they can to get them into the fight with ISIS, even providing transport to the front for them. And it would be very rude of the Americans to decline such assistance

Posted by: Ghostship | May 22 2017 19:40 utc | 24

A video of the rebels/terrorists the US has been training at the base near al Tanf. The leader refers to the US providing anti-aircraft weapons. It is not clear whether this means anti-aircraft canon typically mounted on technicals or the more dangerous MANPADS. The Hesco blastwall containers visible are a dead giveaway for a fortified western military base. They claim to be heading towards the battle for Deir ez Zor. Given the liberal reference to snackbars, I guess they won't be fighting with the Syrian Arab Army.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 22 2017 19:45 utc | 25

In Front of Trump, Al-Sisi Exposes Supporters of Terrorism

Posted by: ALAN | May 22 2017 19:49 utc | 26

how the crypto jewish actors
take the glowing life essence
from nuttyahoos
glowing ball.

all seeing globe
collecting data for the
jeffrey epstein and rabbi rupurt murdoch mossadick
super computer.

globe globe what do you see.
eye see old men raping children
for babylon talmud show.

Posted by: tony romaa | May 22 2017 19:49 utc | 27

The Orb movie

Serried ranks of Saudi princely offspring search Teh Interweb for evidence of extremism - namely anything anti-Wahabbist and anyone critical of the Saudi monarchy.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 22 2017 19:51 utc | 28

As a Tolkien fan, this peculiar orb-worship evokes middle-Earth's "seeing-stones", aka palantíri-- crystal balls that allow users to see far-off things and communicate with other palantír-users.

More specifically, it looks like the assembly in the photos is gazing into the palantír possessed by the Dark Lord, Sauron, and receiving further orders in the Dark Lord's quest for world domination.

"Lord of the Rings" is fiction, but it's noble, worthy fiction.

OTOH, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" is a vile fabrication. I'm a bit surprised that no one responded to #8 "patriot"'s ignorant, bigoted reference to it.

Posted by: Ort | May 22 2017 19:55 utc | 29

@30 - Ort

"The Protocols..." might be fabricated (the burden of proof is yours), but Coudenhove-Kalergi's and Oded Yinon's plans are there to remind us of who our real enemy is.

Posted by: LXV | May 22 2017 20:11 utc | 30

What an awful day

1. Trump aid ISIS supporting Saudis
2. Trump warmonger against Iran
3. Nato countries Nato, US invade Syria
4. Media is in complete silence of #3, where are MSM now? Why arent they blasting Norway's violation of syrian land? Disgusting.
MSM is nothing but propaganda for western nations. Obvious evidence right here
5. Meanwhile, Trump visit Israel and support the same annexation regime, and level more threats against Teheran.
6. Where is EU? Why arent they condemning Trump on Iran? No threats against certain nations and violations of their sovereignty is just fine by these pathetic hypocritical western politicians!

Posted by: Anonn | May 22 2017 20:28 utc | 31


"This swearing of an oath to the Wahhabi death star was part of the opening of the potemkinesk "Global Center for Combating Extremist Ideology" in Riyadh."

It makes perfect sense as long there're one or more enemies called Iran or .......... (take your pick). Or as long as there's anyone who isn't a Wahabi muslim.

Posted by: Willy2 | May 22 2017 20:36 utc | 32

EU is busy courting Iran and wait for Trump to help the US fall down definitely. Germany paid lip service but no one believes it

Posted by: Mina | May 22 2017 20:47 utc | 33

@31: And don't forget these two:

Posted by: Gesine Hammerling | May 22 2017 21:14 utc | 34

b, 'I doubt that it will influence his mind with regard to any other deal he wants to make'

nothing influences the rump's mind with regard to any other deal he wants to make. there's nothing there where 'the mind' is supposed to be. nothing but a 'deal' making facility, with the 'owner' of the facility the sole - intended - beneficiary thereof.

i cannot imagine anything good coming out of all this demonic pretense ... but i never read the hobbit either. i may have an insufficiently developed imagination.

Posted by: jfl | May 22 2017 21:39 utc | 35


Indeed, nothing changed under Trump, I do wonder when he begin with threats, warmongering against Russia? Within 6 months we will see I guess.

Posted by: Anonn | May 22 2017 21:42 utc | 36

Should be pointed out that the Church of Satan doesn't actually worship Satan. It doesn't even believe in Satan. It's basically just an edgy atheist club that mocks Christianity.

Posted by: Merasmus | May 22 2017 21:53 utc | 37

Washington Post and New York Times urge pullback on calls for Trump impeachment

In editorials published simultaneously for their Sunday editions, the New York Times and the Washington Post called for caution in the anti-Trump campaign they have been spearheading with claims of nefarious connections between the Trump presidential campaign and the Russian government.

... gee, what a difference a séance makes. the devil is back in control of his marionettes.

Posted by: jfl | May 22 2017 21:56 utc | 38

Trump is a puppet of some segment of the PTB - mainly the MIC. He seems to have pissed off BigSpy, Inc., but I suppose they'll come around, if Trump is sufficiently reigned in.

Yes, yes, this dog 'n pony show is just that. Circuses (but no bread) for the masses. It's all still shamelessly hustling for the usual evil suspects, SA and Israel.

Then Trump can skip over to that other evil empire, the Vatican, and kiss some RC ass and maybe try to make some sort of deal with them, too. After all the RC "Church" is one of the wealthiest (and powerful) entities on the planet.

Ringling Brothers just closed down their circus.

Meet the new circus boss, more deadly than the old circus boss.

That Orb photo... egad. Definitely appears to be some sort of satanic ritual.

Posted by: RUKidding | May 22 2017 22:15 utc | 39

Graphic pictures: Yemeni troops annihilate entire Sudanese contingent paid by Saudi Arabia ... the first of the 34,000?

the plutocrats of us/nato and il/ksa unite in hiring one-half of the world's poorest, most impoverished peoples to kill the other half. just as jay gould bragged he'd done.

doesn't it make you proud to be an american? the citizen of a nato country? a saudi? an israeli?

Posted by: jfl | May 22 2017 22:42 utc | 40

Didn't the Wicked Witch of the West have a seeing eye ball like that? Or was hers a mirror? I forget.
Maybe I have it mixed up with the all seeing Eye of Sauron. I think that one is in the Vatican now. Babylon never died.

Posted by: Donnie | May 22 2017 22:49 utc | 41


Posted by: Debsisdead | May 22 2017 23:02 utc | 42

re: jfl 39
"In editorials published simultaneously for their Sunday editions, the New York Times and the Washington Post called for caution in the anti-Trump campaign they have been spearheading with claims of nefarious connections between the Trump presidential campaign and the Russian government."

My guess is the Seth Rich murder is gaining far too much traction so much so that the DNC is concerned that tarring Trump could backfire on them in horrendous ways if the truth manages to come out. Best to cease their MSM calls for maximum punishment for now just to be on the safes side.

Posted by: frances | May 22 2017 23:02 utc | 43

@44 frances

excellent treatment of the seth rich non-phenomenon by mike whitney, Seth Rich, Craig Murray and the Sinister Stewards of the National Security State.

also, part 4 on foreign lobbies in the usofa - saudi arabia - by jonathan marshall at consortiumnews hists the nail on the head, Saudis Win Hearts by Lining Pockets, in a genteel kind of way ...

The Israeli-Saudi ongoing proxy wars with Iran create obstacles to achieving peaceful settlements in the theaters of America two biggest recent wars, Iraq and Afghanistan. Washington’s silence on the human rights violations of Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states makes a mockery of its universal moral claims. And the failure to squarely address Saudi Arabia’s contributions to the growth of Islamist militancy heightens the insecurity of all nations threatened by misguided jihadists.

Reversing these disastrous policies will require years of continued debate and political organizing. But it will also require public exposure and genuine discussion of the malign influence of foreign money and propaganda on the U.S. political system, not just the current focus on alleged Russian activities.

Posted by: jfl | May 22 2017 23:51 utc | 44

JFL @ 39

Not quite. That pullback lasted about a NYC heartbeat

Just released: WaPo Reports Trump Asked More Intelligence Officials To Help Stop Russia Probe

President Donald Trump is in Israel, but back home, the Washington Post just released the latest anonymously sourced takedown. This time, the paper is alleging that Trump also asked two of his own appointees, National Security Agency head Mike Rogers and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, for help pushing back against the Russian investigation.[.]

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Frances @ 44

Is it Tuesday in NZ? Waiting for Kim Dotcom to show us what he got.
Kim offered the Committee written evidence and Hannity offered his platform.

It will be outed.
Cousin speaks up
The surgeon who operated on Seth

Posted by: likklemore | May 22 2017 23:58 utc | 45

an orb glowing bollock ritual for peace is may look sinister but that comes from within a disturbed mind.
the folks on this site seem mentally disturbed for sure.
this was nothing but goodlyness
these good fellows along with israel and team uk only want peace.
such a shame putin,iran and syria new hitlers are pulling us into war.
the crimes of manchester cannot go unpunished iranian,syrian and russian passports found in a car near the scene.
shirley this is proofs enough of the wicked deeds of putin new hitler and henchmen assad hezzhollah.
only hezbollah have the newly aquired russian stealth technology to pull off this teeny bopper gladio terror horror so close too a close election.
the 14 ;points drop in the poll numbers for terry may man priminister yesterday would have had nothing too do with the horror ot the need for a sign from tell aviv nutty and trumped.

englands batman clan happened today correcting and putting the train back on track.
you are with israel or you are a terrorist hitler

forward oded yinon tally ho

Posted by: menechem golani | May 23 2017 0:10 utc | 46

Satan is Al Shatah is that which opposes you. It is silly to worship that which stands in opposition to you.

Posted by: fast freddy | May 23 2017 0:17 utc | 47

the church of satan has killed fewer people than the church of christ or the mosque of islam

Posted by: brian | May 23 2017 0:23 utc | 48

@43debs.. not bad! how about this? they suffer from iranity... just have to change ns to r.. insanity - iranity...

Posted by: james | May 23 2017 0:26 utc | 49

I'm not sure if ISIS and their buddies are master-trolls or just plain nuts, because you have to be pretty ballsy to bomb UK just one day after Trump denounces Iran as the puppetmaster of world terror, and just a few hours after the orange T has left the kingdom.
At least, the bullshit about how Saudi freaks fight against extremism and are the good guys, like all Sunnis, and only Shia dogs are human scum won't get much traction in Europe...

Posted by: Clueless Joe | May 23 2017 0:29 utc | 50

@ # It is Tuesday in Aotearoa, but you may have a long wait the thing about Dotcom who is aggresively fighting his fit-up extradition to amerika is that he doesn't mind fucking up things if he imagines it is needed to advance his personal agenda.
I support his right to avoid the hollywood funded attempt to chuck him in a supermax for the rest of his natural life, but cannot countenence the trail of destruction in his wake.
Last election in Aotearoa, Dotcom screwed over Mana, the only substantial political movement dedicated to advancing all tangata whenua by using money (a much needed resource for all Maori politicians outside the protected circle of tribal control of Maori assets) as a lever ahead of the usual Mana grass roots up style of policy development.
In the interests of disclosure I need to say I am a Mana supporter and initially I thought Dotcom's 'donations' were a good thing - they would have been if Dotcom had stayed outta the picture and let Mana do as they saw fit with the dosh. Untargeted mass media campaigning was never gonna work on self interested pakeha so why waste resources on trying to communicate with them? I guess Dotcom didn't trust Mana to keep their word and protect him if they held the balance of power in a proportionally elected parliament. That of itself was insulting - like Dotcom imagined everyone to be as dishonourable as he.

So, in a nutshell if Dotcom actually does have anything to add to this issue it will probably be because he has chosen to break the confidentiality of his mega encrypted cloud storage facility and likely damage the credibility of those who believe Seth Rich's murder needs to be properly investigated.
Hopefully Julian Assange has sufficient nous to keep any wikileaks data on Mega storage away from the possibility of Dotcom using it in a trade off with the feeble feebs.

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 23 2017 0:51 utc | 51


Sudanese meat for the grinder. On flat terrain against the quick/light-footed houthis. STUPID. What a waste. At this rate, why would anyone think being contracted by KSA would be in their interest, either long-term or short.

"Here, take this Uncle Sambo guns. Leave this complex of luxury from which we summoned you to and go meet country-mouse shit-for-brains infidel Houthis in desert. You will surely be victorious my friend. Payment upon completion."

Weapons deal or no deal, KSA is doomed without America playing spoiler and running interference, in the ear future. Verdict still out.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 23 2017 1:03 utc | 52

I really want to know who came up with the orb idea especially glowing in dark, like exorcist calling to bring in the demon. Really fun, this seen only was worth the 400 billion.

Posted by: Kooshy | May 23 2017 1:21 utc | 53

Blowback hits the UK

‘Terrorist incident’: 19 dead, 50 injured in Manchester Arena explosion

No doubt they'll try to blame it on Putin or Assad for "not fighting" ISIS but the guilty are Cameron, May, |Hammond, Fallon, and Johnson but because we'll be called on to support the government, May, Fallon, Hammond and Johnson will go on woth their war crimes.

Posted by: Ghostship | May 23 2017 1:23 utc | 54

Well if the clowns at Hollywood can have Golden Globe why those fat cats should not have their Glowing Globe.
They just welcomed Donny to the exclusive club of global elite that has the firm grip on whole planet. America First yeah sure.

Posted by: hopehely | May 23 2017 2:12 utc | 55

Yup, Saudi Guns and Toys, inc.

From Jane's, pre-paywall:

Key Points

The Saudi government's Public Investment Fund has launched a new defence industrial company

Company will aim to boost domestic defence production as part of Vision 2030 goals

The Saudi government announced on 18 May that it was launching a new defence industrial conglomerate, Saudi Arabian Military Industries (SAMI), to help the country reach its goals for increased domestic military production by 2030.

The company will comprise four business units: Air Systems; Land Systems; Weapons & Missiles (including ammunition); and Defence Electronics.

According to a press release on the launching of SAMI, the company will “manufacture products and provide services” across the four business lines, with the Air Systems division undertaking maintenance and repair of fixed wing aircraft, as well as manufacturing and repairing unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs).

All you MIC contractors brush up your c.v.'cuz there's a whole lotta consulting to be done.

Posted by: stumpy | May 23 2017 2:35 utc | 56

@51 CJ

II'm not sure if ISIS and their buddies are master-trolls or just plain nuts, because you have to be pretty ballsy to bomb UK just one day after Trump denounces Iran as the puppetmaster of world terror,

In the wonderful world of Saudi arms biz, we call this punctuation at the end of signing a contract. Just letting you good folks know that it's such a pleasure to do business with us, or else.

Posted by: stumpy | May 23 2017 2:53 utc | 57

France gainsays Trump, highlights Iran's role in Mideast peace

France has called for further political ties with Iran as it has an "important role in the pacification" of the region.

Foreign Minister "Jean-Yves Le Drian will work towards developing political dialogue that should be part of a constructive approach with regard to solving regional crises," said the French Foreign Ministry on Monday.

During a phone conversation with newly inaugurated French President Emmanuel Macron on Monday, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said, "Iran is ready for cooperation on all levels with other countries, including France, to battle terrorism and to resolve the Syrian crisis."

Macron, who had contacted Rouhani to congratulate him on his re-election, stressed the importance of the JCPOA and noted that supporting the historic nuclear deal was important for developing mutual ties.

... for which wrong reason has micron done the right thing? a french-iranian commercial deal of some sort, i imagine.

Posted by: jfl | May 23 2017 4:49 utc | 58


Dont know much about KimDotCom, apparently he dropped some info that Seth Rich was the leaker and he himself was involved, yes apparently he will drop some more info today.
Could change the situation completely, however is this Kim-guy trustworthy? Havent really followed him earlier.

Posted by: Anon | May 23 2017 7:05 utc | 59

Maybe Macron identified Trump as a lost cause, unlike hubrisized KSA and Israel?
Iran in a huge market with the EU has had in sight for ever (and they want more nuclear techno). The relation was not bad until Ahmadinejad and the green movement.

Posted by: Mina | May 23 2017 8:09 utc | 60

Feudal Courtesans

Posted by: denk | May 23 2017 8:21 utc | 61

IS posted threat 4 hours before the attack

Posted by: Mina | May 23 2017 8:36 utc | 62

Is it a typo or they prefer to bury good news?
Title: "The Latest: Homes declared fully under government control"
It's about Homs...

Posted by: Mina | May 23 2017 9:03 utc | 63

Thanks to who posted the link to Escobar article
excellent indeed
The way Daesh functions in advancing the Zionists' interests makes for the whole Mideast a new knot forbidding any human/trade exchanges, just as Israel's role in cutting off Jordan and Egypt. Compared to 50 years ago when a lot of trade and migrations were going on north to south and south to north with big families having interests in Lebanon, Syria, Palestine and Egypt and moving freely from one to the other (cf. Edward Said's biography). With Daesh, the borders of the clot are movable.

Posted by: Mina | May 23 2017 9:28 utc | 65

posted by: Ort | May 22, 2017 3:55:18 PM | 30

OTOH, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" is a vile fabrication. I'm a bit surprised that no one responded to #8 "patriot"'s ignorant, bigoted reference to it.

No one responded because on every forum, you always have some nut who turns up spewing nonsense about 'Zee Joos' being the root cause of all that's wrong and bad and vile, and it has become quite tiresome to answer them. All the more as you cannot convince them.
They've been at it since the 19th century (and before), even though we know nowadays that "pearls of wisdom" like 'the Protocols' are fakes, that Hitler was financed by US WASP big money (against the Soviet Union), and recently with the declassification of UN files, that the gas chambers were only too real.

And I am sure one could make a historical case for Israel being set as a Western Trojan horse in the ME. Which would make the Jewish people into the ultimate suckers. First butchered by the Nazis with the blessing of the Western powers, then defending a phony state which is just a platform for Western interests in the ME and the "divide and rule" strategy they apply in just about every place they control. "They" meaning the USA/West.

Posted by: Lea | May 23 2017 9:36 utc | 66

re Mina 63

Not only are you citing there the Daily Mail, one of the worst right-wing rags, which lies without hesitation, and is completely unreliable, but they themselves are citing tweets from the SITE Intelligence group, you know the Israeli-run operation in the States which "releases" ISIS announcements, and indeed "released" the Bin Ladin videos. You understand how reliable those releases are when you realise that the boss is an Israeli, Rita Katz, with an American sidekick. They may have made up the tweets.

I haven't had the time to follow up whether they still have the monopoly they used to have on releasing al-Qa'ida announcements. For example, do announcements from the Da'ish press agency (I forget its name) come through them?

Posted by: Laguerre | May 23 2017 9:48 utc | 67

US attack kills 7 in central Yemen: Pentagon

At least seven people have lost their lives in a US ground and aerial operation in Yemen’s central province of Ma’rib, the Pentagon says.

Abu Trump al-Ameriki kills for peace in Yemen, showing solidarity with his salafist homeboys in the KSA.

Posted by: jfl | May 23 2017 11:16 utc | 68


So absurd, but what could one expect by fools like these?

US secretary criticized for praising lack of anti-Trump demos in Saudi

Posted by: Anon | May 23 2017 11:35 utc | 69

Twitter account here with a little more on the US attack in Yemen.

Posted by: Peter AU | May 23 2017 11:48 utc | 70

>>>> jfl | May 23, 2017 12:49:59 AM | 59

for which wrong reason has micron done the right thing? a french-iranian commercial deal of some sort, i imagine.

With Trump having hoovered up all of Saudi Arabia's defence budget for the next X years, France is probably trying to get a slice of Iran's nuclear energy budget, although there'll be some awkward questions about the $1 billion Iran invested in uranium enrichment with France(google Eurodif) back in 1974 and never saw the benefit of.

Posted by: Ghostship | May 23 2017 11:53 utc | 71

Mina @ 63, Laguerre @ 68:

Some of us are waiting until New Scotland Yard's finest stumble across the supposed getaway white van parked close to the stadium with open passports strewn over the dashboard and front seats. The names in the passports will be taken to be those of the perpetrators, and the police will immediately prepare to race around the country hunting them down with guns and assault rifles at the ready, at least until one of the supposed perpetrators is revealed to be a two-year-old boy or wheelchair-bound.

Posted by: Jen | May 23 2017 11:56 utc | 72

@anon 70

yeah, and the rump noted that as well and do doubt will try to institute the same regime in the usofa.

Posted by: jfl | May 23 2017 12:49 utc | 73

The Saker had a must read on the (((neocons)))

What a terrible price we may pay
for being to scared to speak the truth:

International, Organized Jewry plays a major and perhaps predominant role in the wars, the media lies, the anti-White hate masquerading as social science on campuses.

Its worth researching the Jewishness of the Bolsheviks and just exactly what they did to the Russian people.

The worst genocide of all was the essentially Jewish-engendered Red Terror.

Maybe its them, and their megalomaniacal religious and quasiracial supremacism?

Nah... its always everyone else... every time.

Posted by: Jay K | May 23 2017 12:53 utc | 74

Macron, who had contacted Rouhani to congratulate him on his re-election, stressed the importance of the JCPOA and noted that supporting the historic nuclear deal was important for developing mutual ties.

... for which wrong reason has micron done the right thing? a french-iranian commercial deal of some sort, i imagine.
Posted by: jfl | May 23, 2017 12:49:59 AM | 59

What would be wrong about that? High time for France and other European countries to mind their economic interests rather than to useless "Atlantic solidarity". For example, they could refuse letting their largest banks paying multibillion dollar fines to USA for facilitating the trade of Iran, which was a pure piracy, and to use Euro system to extend American financial blackmail. Economic nationalism is a healthy motivation if it is not coupled with domination and colonialism.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | May 23 2017 13:19 utc | 75

Blowback hits the UK
‘Terrorist incident’: 19 dead, 50 injured in Manchester Arena explosion
Posted by: Ghostship | May 22, 2017 9:23:09 PM | 55

Gloating when people die should be avoided. When our media gloats after an explosion in Beirut or St. Petersburg, it is bad, and when it is done here, it is also bad.

Without gloating, one can observe that before fostering anti-Communist jihad in Afghanistan, the "radical Islamic terrorism" was not an issue, but decades of wars conducted or fomented by the West and allies have changed that.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | May 23 2017 13:28 utc | 76

Big news on Seth Rich coming?

"#SethRich release soon"

Posted by: Anon | May 23 2017 15:50 utc | 77

@73 jen... that sounds about right... time for another false flag pointing back to iran, to continue with the craziness of the past week... it can't have anything to do with that death cult wahabbism..

Posted by: james | May 23 2017 16:04 utc | 78

For Trump the whole visit to Saudi Arabia was just a show that enabled the weapon deal which allows him to keep one of his election promises. He knows such artificial backdrops from his TV experiences. He is used to superficial flattery. He uses it himself to convince others into a deal. I doubt that he will fall for it.

Me either. During the Saudi confab, when the King was delivering his Obama-ish platitudes, Trump's out-of-the-spotlight role would have been to sit quietly and calmly with a respectful look on his face and a supportive demeanor. But he had the same livid look and demeanor we saw when he was having his intelligence insulted during his official visit to CIA HQ earlier this year.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 23 2017 16:47 utc | 79

it looks like one of those paintings by Rembrandt

Posted by: chris m | May 23 2017 17:20 utc | 80

What's going on in the UK? "Salman" ? named after the King of Saudi Arabia? they were supposed to find an Iranian passport, weren't they?

Posted by: Mina | May 23 2017 17:50 utc | 81

@80 hoarsewhisperer

To add to that: videos of Melania arriving with Trump on Wahhabiville Tarmac show her swatting away his hand in rejection. She chose not to wear a hijab and I don't think she appreciates Emperor Trumpus cowtowing to the Saudis one bit. I think the bedroom was probably pretty cold that night. A good sign that Trump is just playing the businessman. Pretty amazing having to sell-out so much, I think you would lose yourself or suffer a mental collapse. But alas, such is the Art of the Deal.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 23 2017 18:23 utc | 82


Or of a magnified scene on Bosch's Garden of Earthly Delights. Scary stuff.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 23 2017 18:25 utc | 83

@82 mina... yeah, they messed up this time on that end.. i am sure they will fix it for next time...

Posted by: james | May 23 2017 19:39 utc | 84

@77 piotr.. i agree with you... it is most unfortunate the loss of innocent lives here, as well as in the latest post on moa regarding developments in libya...

but i would say this wahabbi death cult, thanks the madrassas spread around the globe is really gaining some traction by those same regime change artists that hope to use it as a means of furthering a very sick agenda... the loss of innocent lives seems to matter not to these same western countries, in spite of what they say..

Posted by: james | May 23 2017 19:42 utc | 85

How to figure out that the second picture is staged?

1. No snacks and drinks.
2. No one is slouching, no shorts, T-shirts etc.
3. No one is walking around.

OTOH, this is how people imagine a den of pro-government trolls. To maintain consistent levels of anger, trolls cannot be fed or provided with drinks during working hours, or sit comfortably etc.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | May 23 2017 21:55 utc | 86

@ 87 piotr.. the picture smacks of a rigid, conformist, totalitarian type leadership (regime, lol) where no alternative positions or individuality is allowed.. the pic of course looks completely staged as b pointed out.. and it is unlikely to have much impact on trump.. maybe trump could show it to his women folk to show how liberated suadi arabia is in not allowing women to be included in the disgustingly staged pic!

Posted by: james | May 23 2017 22:20 utc | 87

@76 piotr

nothing wrong with opposing the rump and his call to all to join the saudi jihad.

just questioning why the macaroon was on the other side of france's present
pro-us stance on this issue. money. is the answer.

Posted by: jfl | May 23 2017 22:30 utc | 88

@jfl | May 23, 2017 6:30:51 PM | 89

Not necessarily.
France (as well as Germany and other European states) has economic interests in the ME for sure, but it also knows about the importance of the Nuclear Deal for stabilizing not only the Middle East, but also relations between East and West in Eurasia. Russia forgives a lot of things, but if this deal went south...

(note that Paris also took the initiative for the Normandy format to ease tensions in Ukraine, though the idea may have been German)

Posted by: smuks | May 23 2017 23:19 utc | 89

Alan 27
Thanks for that. I sent it and the link to this craziness to friends. Al-Sisi went off script but it doesn't look like MB or others will take him out anytime soon. Good for him.

Piotr Berman 87
The third picture doesn't look staged. It looks like typical Saudi Arabia with these being the lowest jobs they'll consider ... before maybe contracting those out, too.

Posted by: Curtis | May 23 2017 23:46 utc | 90

@91 curtis

thanks for brining attention to that video of @27 alan's on sisi ... i'd thought he was back in the saudi's good graces, but he won't be after that rant. he must be throwing in with russia, for real? is anything for real these days?

things are definitely liquifying in the me. the us neocons are betting on their traditional favorites ... israel, saudi arabia, the gccs ... but that's not where the populaton is. i hope the seachange that is bound to follow the new commitment to terrorism by the usofa and its 'partners' in the eu and me is something different than what they're planning on.

and the people in europe are probably getting tired of getting blown to pieces ... maybe they'll have look into who and what's caused that to come about?

Posted by: jfl | May 24 2017 0:30 utc | 91

@90 smuks

the normandy deal has only frozen the conflict in ukraine ... a play for time on nato's part. make everyone suffer as much as is sustainably possible until ... 'something' happens.

Posted by: jfl | May 24 2017 0:33 utc | 92

@27 alan and @91 curtis

thank you for that as well... needs to be shared more widely.. i guess that is why we hear nothing of trumps meeting in egypt with al-sisi... the punchline is too much for the western msm weasels..

Posted by: james | May 24 2017 0:54 utc | 93

Sissi of Egypt made a speech in front of Trump in Saudi Barbaria condemning backers of terrorism and even the press with harsh words. Worths a look:

Posted by: Jean | May 24 2017 1:40 utc | 94

For anyone who cares Dotcom has (48 hrs too late as per usual) read which way the wind is blowing in amerika since fox news walked back the Seth Rich story (why? who knows but Rupe has never been one to get offside with the PTB) and has had his PR guy put the following up on his web site.

"The Rich family has reached out to me to ask that I be sensitive to their loss in my public comments. That request is entirely reasonable.

I have consulted with my lawyers. I accept that my full statement should be provided to the authorities and I am prepared to do that so that there can be a full investigation. My lawyers will speak with the authorities regarding the proper process."

Capitulation - what was that all about? My best guess is that Dotcom is beginning to see the inevitability of his eventual extradition to amerika and wants to begin raising his profile there. If that is done by appearing to rightist conspiracy theorists as him being the victim of the 'deep state' rather than a cartel of hollywood assholes trying to protect their revenue stream so much the better.
Like much of what Dotcom does this foray was badly timed badly managed and generally ill advised. His alleged link to Rich is tenuous and all he has really done for those interested in the reality about Rich's assassination, is cloud the facts.
It may have been dotcom's leap onto the bandwagon which persuaded Fox news to renege since NewsCorp is a big backer of Dotcom's prosecution.

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 24 2017 1:46 utc | 95

@96 did

pretty sorry situation when fox is the gatekeeper on news of this import. the rest of the msm won't touch it. don't know if anyone else is in a position to follow up. the hand-holder from the dnc seems to have a tight grip on the rich family.

Posted by: jfl | May 24 2017 2:49 utc | 96


as always, the real story begins to come out following the usual lies from the pentagon ...

Yemeni tribal fighters kill US troops in Ma’rib: Report

Yemeni tribal fighters have reportedly killed several American troops after they launched a heliborne attack on a village in Yemen’s central province of Ma’rib, a report says.

According to a report by Yemen's Khabar news agency website, at least 30 troops from the US and some Persian Gulf states, were deployed in the rural area of Khathla in the early hours of Tuesday and engaged in a gun battle with fighters from two prominent tribes in the village.

It added that during the ensuing fierce battle at least seven of the invading troops were fatally injured, who had come there with the purported mission of gunning down militants belonging to the Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) Takfiri terrorist group.

The report, however, added that no militants of the terror group were in the area when three Apache choppers and two military transport aircraft of the US approached the village.

Earlier in the day, Centcom, the US military command in the Middle East, however, told a totally different story, saying the heliborne attack concluded with killing of seven AQAP militants, without mentioning any casualties from the American troops and the presence of soldiers from some Persian Gulf states.

Posted by: jfl | May 24 2017 3:22 utc | 97

@95 jean.. thanks.. same video alan left @27...

@96 debs... looks like some kind of bullshit artist to me.. something wrong with the picture there..

Posted by: james | May 24 2017 3:22 utc | 98

@98 jfl.. interesting... entirely possible with the usa keeping a lid on that.

Posted by: james | May 24 2017 3:23 utc | 99

One of the things that seemed 'relaxing' about the trumpet's prez candidacy was that following years of neocon & neolib administration there really wasn't much left in the way of public assets in amerika to be 'privatized' off. Generally to 'friends' of the prez in this case, to the trumpet's sponsors so everyone who is already rich cops an earner while the shitkickers lose one more jointly owned asset, usually something that was set up in slightly more generous times so that when shit goes bad a safety net can be dragged into place. When those things are given away to the usual crew then shit goes bad and normal human beings get truly fucked over.

According to this article in imperialism apologist's 'Foreign Policy', Trump Wants to Sell Half the U.S. Strategic Oil Reserve For More Cash the trumpet has a plan to raise "up to $16.6 Billion) by selling 51% of an asset currently valued at $35 billion.
For those of you who notice such things, no it doesn't quite add up - the trumpet's plan is to sell over half of a public asset for less than half that asset's value. Factor in that this 'surplus' stock is being sold in a bottomed out market that will inevitably rise as Saudi Arabia is forced to keep it's population acquiescent and meet a huge bill for the arms deal and you'll understand someone somewhere is gonna do hugely outta this deal.
This is the time to be increasing the stockpile, not liquidating it.
That is without even considering the potential for shale extraction to go tits up in a market where shale extraction costs are higher than returns. Or that while the deal will happen 'now' in the sense that the price will be set at the 2017 level, the actual transactions payment and release of the oil will occur over a 10 year time span from an as yet unspecified future date.
The heritage foundation a neocon 'think tank' behind the privatisation of profits and socialisation of liabilities acros the globe seems to be the author of this really bad (unless yer a greedy 1%er) idea.

Now I'm not a big fan of fossil fuels as an energy source but I am a supporter of ensuring the revenue gathered from ordinary shitkickers is being spread across a wide range of diverse assets in the hope that those investments can have a double edged use in troubled times. In the case of amerika's emergency oil stockpile, that would be whenever shit goes really bad making both money & energy supplies difficult for the hundreds of millions of citizens and their offspring who paid for this through generations of income taxes.
Selling this off to the trumpet's backers, a mob of assholes notorious for not contributing to tax revenue, is a particularly egregious stunt for the trumpet to pull on the credulous naifs who voted for him.

Finally just because the release of this oil on an already over supplied market will cause KSA shitkickers discomfort isn't much of a reason. The KSA's elite who are the ones who deserve to be damaged will barely notice cos they are well insulated too.

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 24 2017 5:29 utc | 100

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