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May 28, 2017

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French neocons follow the Trump wagon. Iran-bad

Posted by: Mina | May 28 2017 10:21 utc | 1

Here is a random thought for a Sunday. This random thought seems to nag me, though.

Years decades...perhaps in the 80's, I saw one of those programs about people that die temporarily and are then revived. I keep recalling this one fellow who was, he readily admitted, a selfish rowdy, fighting, caustic jerk that went to heaven and then back again in his "near death experience". He said that the first part of his experience was to feel what everyone he had ever met felt. If he had wronged them he experienced what that had felt like to them. If he had brought them joy or comfort he felt that...This experience changed him, afterwards he became a constant volunteer at hospitals, going around visiting the sick and dying.

He also said that when in heaven he was shown a big vision of the near future.
Mind you that he received this vision well before even Gulf War I. He said the US would be in a lot of small wars (I am thinking Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Palestine, Lebanon, Somalia, Yemen, South Ossetia, Syria, Ukraine) and then would come the Big One.

Can't seem to ever forget that segment of the program. Nags at me.

Posted by: librul | May 28 2017 12:01 utc | 2

Declassified memos show FBI illegally shared spy data on Americans with private parties.

Body of Federal Prosecutor investigating DNC voter fraud Found on Hollywood Beach.

After Mosul, Will it be Erdogan or The Kurds?

Posted by: rawdawgbugfalo | May 28 2017 13:26 utc | 3

Librul 2
Interesting. Sounds like a docu and non-fiction. It's not the movie Flatliners. That was about selfish thrill-seekers.

So many predict the Big One almost like they want it or simply accept it as an inevitability. Maybe they want to scare us into more corrupted collectivism. Maybe there's money to be made. The Left Behind guys did well while reinforcing the religious idea of soon-to-come Armageddon. There's the Albert Pike WW3 prediction legend.

Posted by: Curtis | May 28 2017 13:29 utc | 4

Heh Mina @ 1. Here is a video WW2 which outlines Pétain’s Vichy program - Work, Family, Nation - and the slogan for the documentaries and ‘magazines’ that were produced, was LA FRANCE EN MARCHE.

I’m pretty sure Macron wasn’t aware, an ordinary search doesn’t turn this up, and the folklore is that the name was chosen to fit his initials, E. M. Still, the aspect of ‘movement’, of ‘adulated, necessary leader’ is really quite strong. One can note that in the first minute of the section on Work, the words, rational and modern are used. Plus ca change..

Posted by: Noirette | May 28 2017 14:15 utc | 5

Must read article: The lunatics about fake news about Trump and Russia

Posted by: Anonynmous | May 28 2017 14:27 utc | 6

Here we go again, red scare hysteria wont stop:

MSM newest attack: Trump's Jared Kusher accused of talking with russian ambassador.

Posted by: Anonynmous | May 28 2017 14:32 utc | 7

It is not so much the secret diplomacy but the background of business contacts and favors owed to Russian investors. IF there were only some way Trump could release some documents that might help dispel those lingering doubts...

Posted by: Ralphieboy | May 28 2017 14:57 utc | 8

where's nmb?

Posted by: james | May 28 2017 16:27 utc | 9

Posted by: Noirette | May 28, 2017 10:15:31 AM | 5

Actually you find a lot on it googling.

I guess lots of things went down the memory hole in 1945 in France (as in Germany).

The slogan obviously is designed to show activity without content.

Posted by: somebody | May 28 2017 16:44 utc | 10

good post at sst that hoarsewhisper was mentioning on the previous thread..

When Intelligence Isn't - By Patrick Armstrong

Posted by: james | May 28 2017 17:07 utc | 11

@Anonynmous 7

"Here we go again, red scare hysteria wont stop:"

I just finished the 1951 pamphlet by George Washington Armstrong titled Third Zionist War

There is loads of interesting material in it, but what made me bring it up now is the "red scare".

In 1951 things looked pretty bleak for the US:
- To a large degree the US had demilitarized.
- Mao had conquered China with the collusion of Marshall and the Communists in the Truman administration.
- Stalin was busy putting up the Iron Curtain around all of eastern Europe and Germany lay starving and devastated.
- The US navy was blockading Taiwan in the Taiwan straights so Mao could attack McCarthy in N. Korea with out fear of a nationalist invasion.
- McCarthy's desire to bomb the bridges and Chinese camps across the border were denied.
- Truman turned down the offer of 350,000 nationalist Chinese soldiers to help in N. Korea from Chang Kai Chek.
- The Zionists in the senate were blocking the stopping of the continuing looting of German industry by the Morgenthau plan.
- The Germans were furious with Eisenhower and the Nuremburg sham trials.
- Zionist spies within the Truman administration were leaking nuclear secrets and everything else to the soviets.

It is also important to note that Rothschild is derived from "red shield", so when you write "red scare" it is not clear if the scare is due to Zionism or just "useful idiot" Communism. In any case Armstrong points out who exactly had caused the Korean "Police Action" and the death of 50,000 US soldiers. It was the same group steering US politics whether you choose to describe them as Communists or Zionists. Just as with the Russian Revolution in 1917 that cause so many millions of deaths.

The "red scare" is a "red herring" and the deep states continued usage of it diminishes the degree of the threat that Zionism and its symbiotic cousin Communism poses to the entire planet.

Posted by: Heros | May 28 2017 17:17 utc | 12

reply to: librul | May 28, 2017 8:01:29 AM | 2

Remember the future can be changed,have you ever read up on Edgar Casey? His vision of the future was not a WW3 but an environmental catastrophe if the world did not right itself. The disaster would be flooding on a grand scale,the Great Lakes flood into the Mississippi, the sea level's worldwide rise at least 60 feet, America is halved and much of it becomes islands. Europe is uninitiated as well. Not sure what would happen re the world's nuclear plants, they were before his time:)

Posted by: frances | May 28 2017 17:36 utc | 13

My favourite British Airways stuff-up rumour is that it was caused by corporate thriftiness - out-sourcing IT to India.
Airliners spend ~80%+ of their total service life airborne, so the down-time alone is costing shiploads of cash per minute. Reputation damage won't help either...

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 28 2017 17:43 utc | 14

@5 Noirette

That's a good one. I say that France is living a second occupation since Sarko and Holland. And Macron being a pure creature of the Deep State or whatever else you might call it proves my point.

It will be intereting to see what will come out of Putin's visit to Paris though.

Posted by: Jean | May 28 2017 18:09 utc | 15

@Curtis 4 and @frances 13,

Yes, certainly, and "man who uses other man's crystal ball eats other man's glass". nags me.

But, my first point was about doing service, who does enough service?

Posted by: librul | May 28 2017 18:21 utc | 16

His name was #sethrich..

Posted by: Lozion | May 28 2017 18:41 utc | 17

Jean, @15

It's Putin fault, he should change his behavior

Posted by: OJS | May 28 2017 18:52 utc | 18

@Noirette 5

Thanks for the historical background to the "Mitterand trap"

The em Marche link is mind blowing when you consider the players in the game that manufactured Macron and the various "societies" behind the throne (e.g. Free Masons, Illuminati and CRIF).

I expect Macron will push through the neo-liberal agenda of his international consortium with or without the support of the National Assembly. School's out in France by July 2nd so I expect the uprising to begin then, unless Macron delays his agenda until the Grandes Vacances in July.

Posted by: Krollchem | May 28 2017 18:55 utc | 19

No country is sovereign unless the USA agrees that it is sovereign. No country can be sovereign unless it borrows money from the IMF or the World Bank.

With 189 member countries, the World Bank Group is a unique global partnership fighting poverty worldwide through sustainable solutions (such as death, for example - very sustainable).

Posted by: fast freddy | May 28 2017 18:59 utc | 20

Anyone not predicting the 'Big One' surely hasn't been paying attention the last several decades.

Posted by: paul | May 28 2017 19:13 utc | 21

Right now there is a Beech B300 King Air orbiting Marawi City, Philippines, scene of the ISIS attacks.As seen on Flightradar24.

Posted by: Mike | May 28 2017 19:16 utc | 22

@Heros 12
Interesting info about the red shield:

Posted by: Krollchem | May 28 2017 19:20 utc | 23

Those Takfiri terrorists who took over a Southern Philippines city must be crazy, the religeous make up of the Philippines is 92% Christianity 5.57% Islam Did they expect to be able to convert this huge majority or behead them all? Proof positve that they need to be wiped out, along with the House of Saud.

Posted by: harrylaw | May 28 2017 19:43 utc | 24

@2 librul

May not be exactly what you're referring to, but your story reminds me of The Egg, by Andy Weir:

Posted by: ragehead | May 28 2017 20:02 utc | 25

Heros @12: In 1951 things looked pretty bleak for the US:

Actually that is absolutely wrong. In 1951 the US was the undisputed winner of WWII. We were without doubt the most powerful nation on earth (even if took the Soviets to defeat the Germans). Russia's cities and infrastructure had been devastated during the war. It took them decades to rebuild. China was in even worse shape. The US was king of the world.

We were so confident that we believed we could conquer all of Korea. Except the greatly weakened China and Russia managed to support North Korea and lead to America's first post WWII defeat. The US continued to believe in its invincibility that US arms could conquer the world but that deception crashed in Viet Nam (with considerable support from China and Russia). Today we all know that the US cannot win wars, but it pretty good at spreading chaos around the globe.

Heros, where do you come up with all of that ancient anti-communist crap?

Posted by: ToivoS | May 28 2017 20:03 utc | 26

Posted by: Noirette | May 28, 2017 10:15:31 AM | 5
Posted by: Jean | May 28, 2017 2:09:19 PM | 15

Actually, the connection between the present French neoliberals and the Nazi collaborators of yesterday have been stressed by at least three well-informed people , one being the French UPR party leader François Asselineau, who clarifies in his informative conferences over the Internet that the EU was basically a Nazi idea (a claim he backs with irrefutable historical sources); the French historian Annie Lacroix-Riz with her book "Le Choix de la défaite" (France chose to lose against Hitler, because big business loved Hitler's Germany, which kept the money rolling in); the Canadian historian Jacques R. Pauwels, with his highly recommended book "The Myth of the Good War", where he explains that De Gaulle had to battle with the French collaborators of the Nazis, some of whom wanted to head off to the USA after the war if things went wrong. They were French big business hacks. They were the Nazi collaborators. And they are ruling France today.

Posted by: Lea | May 28 2017 20:06 utc | 27

yeah heros... what's yer thang? seems all zionist, israel control the world kinda stuff to me that you are always talking about... is that it?

Posted by: james | May 28 2017 20:16 utc | 28

Trump making his presence felt abroad ... :-)
Ages ago I said that Trump would be great for everyone but Americans. I said that Brexit would be great for Europe but not for the UK. Why? Because I believe fundementally that Europe needs to break the US and probably NATO reliance in order to properly manage its foreign relations (UK is one of EU's greatest cheerleaders!)
Trumps words and actions since he left the safety of the US have only bolstered my opinion.
Its too late for the US but we in the UK may still be able to save ourselves ...

Posted by: AtaBrit | May 28 2017 20:24 utc | 29

@Krollchem 23

A good read.

@ToivoS 26
You should read the book I linked to. Armstrong presents an image of Europe devastated, Stalin victorious in Berlin, China lost, Britain and France desperately fighting to hang onto their colonies, and North Korea and China pushing the US back out of N. Korea.

The US was never under threat of invasion from the USSR, and Armstrong does make that clear. However he points out that the threat to the US was/is of a different nature, and that Zionism was not only as big a threat as Communism but that they were actually the same threat. He was correct.

Posted by: Heros | May 28 2017 20:40 utc | 30

Posted by: Lea | May 28, 2017 4:06:28 PM | 27

History is a game how far you go back to and what you leave out. Yep, Nazis planned for Europe but so did Napoleon. And the Holy Roman Empire.
It is one - diverse - cultural and economic space.

Posted by: somebody | May 28 2017 20:41 utc | 31

Twitter chatter

Yannis Koutsomitis @YanniKouts
Merkel: We can't rely on the US anymore. I have experienced this in the last days. We Europeans should take destiny in our own hands. ~@BILD
a reply
Hassan Ridha‏ @sayed_ridha
Sanctions against US regime, arm the moderate democrats, no-fly zone etc etc

Posted by: Piotr Berman | May 28 2017 21:40 utc | 32

@24 harrylaw.. they would have better chances in indonesia, malaysia and places like that..

Posted by: james | May 28 2017 21:41 utc | 33

@Rag3head 25,

Wonderful story, thanks. I didn't however, click on your link (cautious).

I Googled and came upon the video version of The Egg, so perhaps you would appreciate clicking on my link:

I do see how you were reminded of my story.

Andy Weir's The Egg is on to something. His bottom line is that there is only one and only one soul, garnering experience and wisdom by continuously reincarnating as everyone. But only as one person at a time, mind you. (An aside, I wonder if Andy at some point began, over time, to believe his own jest).

That theory is close to another I have read. That our souls are but sparks in a greater soul. There are seven, actually, of these "flames before the throne" as the Bible puts it. Seven greater souls that put their sparks (our souls) down into this earthly plane. The sparks (our souls) garner unique experiences thru multiple reincarnations and then these multitudes of wised up souls return to the Greater soul increasing It's wisdom also.

Sparks within sparks - recursive. Is that clear? The smaller sparks, our individual incarnations, are gathered back into our souls as experience and wisdom and then our souls, which are sparks to the Greater soul are gathered back, or assimilated :-)

One might wonder if "The Throne" from the Bible is also one of seven, and is Itself gathered back up at some crack of doom.

So...if we are all but sparks in one Greater soul then everything we ever do, like in The Egg, is done to or for ourselves.

Posted by: librul | May 28 2017 22:13 utc | 34

Hoarsewhisperer @ 14

My favourite British Airways stuff-up rumour is that it was caused by corporate thriftiness - out-sourcing IT to India.

Or worse - cutting down on the out-sourcing while not really having competent IT people left at home, because not having invested in local teams?

And “saving” on hardware investment, one story I read (El Pais I think) has it that the problem was due to failing switches.

Posted by: Philippe | May 28 2017 23:13 utc | 35

Posted by: Philippe | May 28, 2017 7:13:35 PM | 35

Or worse - cutting down on the out-sourcing while not really having competent IT people left at home, because not having invested in local teams?

What local teams. Everybody is moving to cloud services. The IT is becoming quite nebulous thing these days.

Posted by: hopehely | May 28 2017 23:34 utc | 36

If the issues with BA had indeed been 'up in the cloud' the problem would have been fixed in a second at amazon or wherever. All major corporations use cloud based servers but they are still largely reliant on either in-house or outsourced software support.
My experiances of that have been that the outsourced stuff works really well for a time, the staff have been carefully selected and even trained by the corporation doing the outsourcing, but then after a time it all turns to shit as the contractors cut corners and slice margins for increased profitability. At the same time the institutional IT knowledge of the corporation (in this case BA) has withered away.
When the shit hits the fan everyone is well meaning and apologetic but the odds of having the expertise to right the ship are pretty slim since real interaction between the two entities has become ancient history.
Even if BA decide to opt outta the deal which is doubtful the contractors won't notice. If they need to they will change their name and bid for a different corporation's work.
I betcha nothing changes, BA was one of the most unpleasant airlines to fly with three decades ago and it will have got much worse since then, but consumers have no voice any longer plus their decisions are generally made on the basis of schedules and ticket prices, so while there may be some short term sales reductions, the BA execs know all they need to do is hang in and all will be cool.

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 29 2017 1:02 utc | 37

From Piotr Berman

Merkel: We can't rely on the US anymore. I have experienced this in the last days. We Europeans should take destiny in our own hands.

(Patriotic USA Wingnuts are super angry over this/these remarks. How ungrateful!)

My opinion: Merkel should have had these feelings a LONG fucking time ago. Perhaps before she jumped on the Bullshit GWOT bandwagon and took in all the refugees she helped to create.

Posted by: fast freddy | May 29 2017 2:00 utc | 38

#24 #33

The southern half Mindanao is a Muslim area.
They have enough fire power over there. A year or 2 ago, a US special forces group was annihilated during an attempt to destroy a camp. And before that, a group had invaded east Malaysia that showed up weakness in their military speed to deploy from west to east.

Posted by: ThatDamnGood | May 29 2017 2:08 utc | 39

Its happening.get in here now people.trumps gonna handover to pence.kelly ayotte will be new vice president

Posted by: Anonymous | May 29 2017 2:47 utc | 40

@36 yep. 'IT' will soon be some gig job for most, going to a job-site while in communication with a centralized remote-center in another city or state or country. Helpdesk can be centrally-sourced and operated through remote desktop for most things

Posted by: aaaa | May 29 2017 2:50 utc | 41

>>>> Heros | May 28, 2017 4:40:24 PM | 30

....China lost....

Lost by whom? The Chinese? Did the Mongolians wake up one day to find they were a maritime nation because China had disappeared?

Lost where? Had it cut loose of it foundations and sailed south to Antarctica?

Posted by: Ghostship | May 29 2017 3:01 utc | 42

Heros @ 30, Ghostship @ 42:

China lost? I thought China beat Japan in WW2.

Posted by: Jen | May 29 2017 3:11 utc | 43

Posted by: librul | May 28, 2017 6:13:50 PM | 34
(Greater soul etc)

I find all that metaphysical stuff fascinating if not compelling. I met a woman at a party once who made a reasonable living as a Spiritual Guide. She was a believer in reincarnation. So I asked her how reincarnation works, given that Once Upon a Time there were only a few million people on Earth and now there are several billion?
"Easy" she said. "The New ones are non-people."
HW: "Hmmm ... That would explain a lot..."

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 29 2017 3:22 utc | 44

Merkel should have had these feelings a LONG fucking time ago. Perhaps before she jumped on the Bullshit GWOT bandwagon and took in all the refugees she helped to create.

Posted by: fast freddy | May 28, 2017 10:00:19 PM | 38

Merkel, bless the woman, had nice feelings for decades. A bit too many, as the "million refugees in one year" shows. But she does not have "cojones" to do anything about them, when it is opposition to USA or Israel, the pinnacle of her action was a rare testy phone conversation. Which is still many times more than can be expected from the likes of May or Macron.

That said, when the matters are really, really close to their pockets, Germans shows some signs of independence. I can note two: persistent support of North Stream and lack of remorse about "underspending" for the military. Ah, too bad, some NATO nutcase would love a rematch of Prokhorovka with new, improved and plentiful German tanks on their side. The stage is already designed: a crisis in Baltics, Russians closing the "Suwalki Gap" and the might of combined NATO forces re-opening the gap. I guess there is some video game on the topic for the top secret enjoyment of top NATO figures.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | May 29 2017 3:48 utc | 45

Piotr Berman | May 28, 2017 11:48:58 PM | 45

Merkel does not have "cojones" to do anything about them ..."
In my opinion you should watch a little more closely.

Posted by: AtaBrit | May 29 2017 3:57 utc | 46

@Piotr Berman | 32
Covered in Independent this morning too ...

Posted by: AtaBrit | May 29 2017 4:24 utc | 47

I live in Portland Oregon where on Friday we had a Muslim hate crime ending with two dead protecting an innocent teenager.

To those of you that think that Trump has a shred of humanity in him, listen to his silence over the incident.

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 29 2017 4:54 utc | 48

significant shift in priorities... indicates that the US and Britain are removing their forces from the southern Syrian-Iraqi border crossing of Al Tanf. What is even more interesting is the alleged deployment of a Russian mountain brigade to secure the Jordanian-Syrian border which will effectively shut down any more attempts to carve out a a US dominated area in this part of the Syrian desert. Thinking in terms of pipelines, this effectively cuts the Saudi's out of the pipeline game and also reduces their influence in Turkey. It also preserves Russian oil dominance in Europe. A month or so ago I suggested that the US would not extend the Kurdish zone south of Raqqa, primarily because the long game in oil favors N Iraq over the Saudi’s. It also seems that this will keep Erdogan far more dependent on the US. Saudi oil would have given his economy a much needed boost and made him far more independent and unreliable for US interests.

Posted by: les7 | May 29 2017 5:09 utc | 49

Re 48: Any day now, Trump will show us he cares about victims of white terrorism. He'll also show us he's committed to a demilitarised foreign policy, and then he'll drain the swamp. Any day now, surely...

Posted by: sigil | May 29 2017 5:10 utc | 50

trump just announced on twitter he had maga tattooed on his wife's ass.says Putin made him do it

Posted by: anon | May 29 2017 5:29 utc | 51

@48 psycho

What a bummer that is/was to see/read. That guy has no one behind him. He is an outlier, thank goodness, just as the takfiris of the world we hope and think are outliers, too.

However, don't let the proximity of tragedy weigh double in your rush to judgement. Had Hillary been elected, she might have let loose some compassionate words for the victims, but as we all know, the overarching reality of the whole mess lies not in figureheads, but the policy that the elite make and that you eloquently rail against most of the time. You know that sorrowful words mean dick, my friend. Makes no difference what was said by who. Only thing that matters is in the executive is the pen.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 29 2017 5:29 utc | 52

@ NemesisCalling who wrote about my rant about Trump's inhumanity

It is a bitch to watch this train wreck unfold. As I wrote before the (s)election, Trump is the "don't throw me in the briar patch" candidate. He is an aspiring elite "nobleman" who named his son I know, what should we expect?

I grimace at some scenes in movies as well...

My latest rant to friends and folks on the street is the need for some "adult" organizations to stand up and say that this is not what society is all about....but I am a dreamer.....

Americans have been brainwashed to hate others in a general Pavlovian way in the same way they have been been brainwashed to never think about who owns their medium and tools of exchange....or to assume they are public. Future anthropologists, if they exist, will be amazed at the ignorance of the public about the brainwashing power of TV and big media in general...they control the message and the world it exists earlier commenter somewhere here I think made a good observation that humanity has not gotten good at managing groups in power.

END PRIVATE FINANCE!!!! Kill the God of Mammon!!!!

Only then can we organize as a potential civil society.

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 29 2017 6:08 utc | 53

#53 Americans have been brainwashed

A whole Western generation has been brainwashed:

Posted by: From The Hague | May 29 2017 6:46 utc | 54

Posted by: Piotr Berman | May 28, 2017 11:48:58 PM | 45

You sum it up. NATO in the Cold War made the mistake of letting German politicians take part in lots of war games that necessarily ended with the destruction of Germany.

NATO's borders have gone east since then but the reach of rockets has improved a lot, too.

Posted by: somebody | May 29 2017 7:57 utc | 55

@ 44

I asked her how reincarnation works, given that Once Upon a Time there were only a few million people on Earth and now there are several billion?

Every living being has a soul (humans, animals, fish, etc), that makes 8 billions of humans a tiny number of all souls just on Earth, what to speak of entire Universe.

Posted by: Harry | May 29 2017 7:59 utc | 56

Ghostship @ 42, Jen @ 43

From the Japan Times article:

"Nationalist corruption and depredations alienated the war-weary Chinese and thereby facilitated Mao’s victory in the civil war."

This is the narrative that I was taught in the 1970's and it is still doctrine today. Like the majority of accepted history, it is riddled with lies and partial truths.

The US government was already infested with spies when the Fed and the Income Tax were created in 1913 in preparation for a series of coming wars that had long been in planning.

After WWII China and Eastern Europe were simply handed over to the Communists by spies and stooges like Marshal and Eisenhower. The plan was clearly for all of Europe to fall to communism as well as all of Asia. The Morgenthau plan and the Rhine meadows lagers were all a part of it.

Just as in Syria today it didn't work out as planned, so the scheming and secret plots still continue and will continue for a long time. But the end goal remains the same, as this relentless push to simultaneously bring in millions of muslim invaders and un-educated sub-saharan africans into every white Christian nation on the planet illustrates. One other piece of damning evidence for who is has behind this centuries old struggle for destruction of the west is provided by Voltaire:

"To Learn Who Rules Over You, Find Out Who You Can't Criticize"

Posted by: Heros | May 29 2017 8:40 utc | 57

Following a link from Twatter, I read what I considered to be an interesting article/opinion piece on the Comey/Trump/"The Russians" & all the crap & backstabbing that Trump is having to contend with 24/7 I don't know how much actual real information is involved or is it supposition but it's not a bad read.


Chris in Ch-Ch

Posted by: KiwiCris | May 29 2017 10:09 utc | 58

A word of warning:: Don't listen to any historical opinions from = Heros | May 29, 2017 4:40:55 AM | 57 and elsewhere as it is just a load of drivel having no contact with what actually happened. Look at the fool's mistakes and see if you want to even render attention to their delusions. Caveat emptor!

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | May 29 2017 10:16 utc | 59

@48 psycho

trump whipped guys like mr 'christian' up and let em go. he crawled out from under his rock and he's center stage now.

noirette said it about the french ... they were unequipped to deal with the false choice presented by their political class.

that goes for the usofa and for us americans in spades. out on housing project hill, it's either fortune or fame. you must pick one or the other though neither is what it claims.

we must not pick 'one or the other'. we must create a real alternative ourselves. in america and in france and everywhere else on earth our shadows bot out the sun and darken the landscape.


merkel is in a tough spot in the election later this year due to her kow-tow to the imperialists in ac/dc ... but now the beer's on the rump ... he's 'volunteered' to be her punching bag. i'll bet it works, too.

Iran asks Turkey for explanation over deaths of border guards

Iran says it has asked for explanation from Turkey after a cross-border attack left two Iranian border guards dead on Saturday.

Seven border guards were also injured when PJAK terrorists attacked them while they were changing posts, before retreating into Turkey.

Last month, 10 Iranian border guards were killed and two others injured in an ambush attack near the town of Mirjaveh in the southeastern Sistan-and-Baluchestan province. The assailants escaped into Pakistan after the attack, for which the Jaish ul-Adl terrorist group claimed responsibility.

“We have many different enemies who have infiltrated parts of the countries around us,” Rezaei said.

i'd imagine Jaish ul-Adi is a saudi/cia operation?

and i imagine the cia, at least, is involved with the pjak.

Civilian casualties in Iraq, Syria ‘fact of life’: Pentagon chief

Civilian death in the fight against Daesh (ISIL) in Iraq and Syria is merely a “fact of life,” US Defense Secretary James Mattis says, noting that Washington has shifted its tactic against the terror group from “attrition” to “annihilation.”

the usofa now admits it's the world's largest terror organization, and has been since wwii, when it switched to warring against civilian populations and infrastructure rather than combatants. hey, hey, curtis lemay ... how many people dja burn today?

we americans all know that. mattis can say it right out loud. not a peep

British intelligence received warnings that Manchester bomber was plotting attacks

Unknown to the British people, including the families who lost loved ones last Monday night, Manchester was at the centre of operations that funnelled rebel fighters into Libya. Younis told the MEE’s reporters, “The majority who went from here were from Manchester.” Another interviewee said of the young recruits he encountered during a visit to a rebel camp in Misrata that same year, “They had proper Manchester accents.”

In Saturday’s Daily Mail, Peter Oborne alleged direct collusion by MI6, Britain’s foreign intelligence service, with terrorist organisations in Libya and Syria. Oborne, associate editor of the Spectator and former chief political commentator at the Daily Telegraph, wrote, “MI6 officers were complicit in creating a generation of British-born jihadis who are prepared to do anything, and kill anyone—even young children—in their efforts to destroy this country.

“There is every reason to speculate that Salman Abedi’s evil handiwork at the Manchester Arena on Monday night was in part a direct consequence of MI6’s meddling in Middle Eastern and North African affairs.”

Oborne singled out MI6’s role under the Labour government of Tony Blair, when its former chiefs, Sir Richard Dearlove and Sir John Scarlett, “allowed [MI6] to become a propaganda tool for the Labour PM’s clique of war-mongers.”

Britain’s sordid dealings with the LIFG and other Al-Qaeda-linked groups stretch back to the 1990s. The LIFG was spawned from the mujahedeen and built up by the US in Afghanistan, as part of its destabilisation of the Soviet Union. Since then, the fate of the LIFG has directly tracked shifts in British and American foreign policy.

In 2011, in response to the Arab Spring, the US and Britain set in motion long-standing plans for regime change operations in the Middle East. Anti-terrorism control orders against LIFG leaders were lifted because, according to Curtis, the British government “once again found that its interests—mainly concerning oil—coincided with those of Islamist forces in Libya.”

The 22 dead and scores injured in Manchester, no less than the people of Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and countless other countries invaded and occupied, are the victims of British imperialist intrigue and are regarded as “collateral damage.”

just as mattis says ... merely a “fact of life.”

i hope labour prevails on the 8th of June. need some good news from somewhere. c'mon brits!

Posted by: jfl | May 29 2017 10:38 utc | 60

The market is freer than you are.

Posted by: passerby | May 29 2017 11:33 utc | 61

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 28, 2017 11:22:47 PM | 44

"Easy" she said. "The New ones are non-people."

Given we started off as a few thousand hunters-gatherers, that's a lot of us who are 'non-people'.

Posted by: somebody | May 28, 2017 4:41:20 PM | 31

Yes, undoubtedly, Napoleon and previously the Roman Empire also wanted a 'Great Europe'. It's nevertheless quite funny to see the neoliberals' phony posturing and looking all virtuous against Nazism, when you know full well that back then, they would have collaborated with the Nazis.
Which they still do, BTW. See Ukraine.

Posted by: Lea | May 29 2017 11:35 utc | 62

A selection from each side... on the big one.

1. apostles - bible old and new

2. albert pike - "hopes to unleash atheists and gays.." mind you pike was in the civil war when writing about ww3 and america


Posted by: jason | May 29 2017 12:09 utc | 63

@Formerly T-Bear 59

Calling someone a liar in a comments section without even identifying what is believed to be untrue, let alone not even bothering to debunk it with more credible information, is behavior not even becoming of a safe space dwelling snowflake.

We live in a world of fake claims of Russia shooting down MH17 and invading Ukraine, Assad continually gassing his own people after giving up his chemical weapons, Clapper lying outright to the senate about unconstitutional searches, and the Clinton body count.

So you think you should dictate to everyone reading this blog during this era of lies and deception exactly what they are allowed to believe. You remind me of Theresa May.

Meanwhile, more evidence is starting to surface about the latest Gladio style false flag hoax in Manchester. I would add that if that loaded back pack he was carrying was filled with batteries, schrapnel, explosives and electronics it would be hanging a lot lower.

So all you MoA readers better not read this comment, T-Bear doesn't want you wandering out of the CIA-Mossad-MI5 mind control bubble.

Posted by: Heros | May 29 2017 12:19 utc | 64

@Hoarsewhisperer #44,

Yes, that is where the whole thing falls apart - in the numbers.

Unless you want to factor in the Hindu belief of reincarnation into
animal life, or go really far out with Stephen Hawking and
factor in the Multiverse.

Could the Spiritual Guide you met at a party have been Ultra Orthodox?
Her beliefs are not unique (warning, not uplifting):

Posted by: librul | May 29 2017 12:29 utc | 65

@ Heros | May 29, 2017 8:19:54 AM | 64

Base of your problem fool, is that you cannot even read. Please point out exactly where you were called a liar, you cannot because like the facts you construct your delusion, they don't exist. Get used to the phrase *Not even wrong, not even real*, you are going to encounter it often in your miserable little life. Bugger off.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | May 29 2017 12:47 utc | 66

librul @ 65: " , or go really far out with Stephen Hawking and factor in the Multiverse." Yes, existence is filled with life, in my opinion, and much of it is quite likely intelligent life. If so, then that intelligent life would be equipped with souls, just as we are, and reincarnation could allow for the possibility of rebirth into different intelligent species. (I'm not ready for fish, mammals, birds, etc.) Being reborn onto different planets and into different intelligent species would allow for a system of rewards or promotions. I don't think being born on earth is any indication of any special awards; it might be a sign that one has just experienced a significant demotion. A system like that makes more sense to me than one consisting of a hateful, insane old Sky Daddy who runs you around the track one time and makes a judgement of thumbs up/thumbs down, pass/fail, and that's it for you. In a system like that it would truly be better to have never been born.

Posted by: Donnie | May 29 2017 12:56 utc | 67

ragehead 25
That was a cool short story. I almost thought it was going to turn into the Night Gallery episode "Hell's Bells" - the idea of a personal hell. But it had a pleasant idea.

For Memorial Day, the Atlanta NPR website had an article that said don't say "thank you for your service" as that is a toss away phrase and instead say "have a meaningful day." The propaganda of Bush's war team + FNC pushed the idea of supporting the troops to draw in support for the war. So that became an automatic thing here in the US. I cringe at the thought. Years ago I found a jpg of a gravestone with the word "TRUTH" on it. I send it around because it is the first casualty of any and every war.

Posted by: Curtis | May 29 2017 13:07 utc | 68

Lea @ 27, I don’t entirely agree with Asselineau who says the EU was basically a Nazi idea, although I appreciate this gentleman and his party; sure, he may be taking a reasonable shortcut. I think it was more not exactly and idea but and alliance, a way of being/doing of the old corporatists, barons of industry, in F + D (see steel union post WW2 etc.), along the lines described by LaCroix Riz. Then of course the plan was adopted, encouraged, and further engineered by the US (and/or was sketched out well before, idk about that.)

The F did not fight or resist, didn’t even try or pretend to. Let’s not forget that Mitterand worked for the Vichy Gvmt.. I haven’t read Pauwell’s book, should I? Do you recommend it ++? De Gaulle was of course punished with the first color revolution (1968.)

All this is one of the reasons that Brexit (GB always a reluctant, distant, EU participant seeking own advantages, position) is very alarming to many, and why the specter of Le Pen (plays a supporting role with hints at Frexit) being used to line up everyone *who counts* as pro-Macron. Trump with his anti-Nato talk is another disquieting indirect menace. Many things are shifting. See Merkel decl. Piotr @ 32.

Posted by: Noirette | May 29 2017 13:39 utc | 69

quote (May 2017):

Significant and damning testimony of what was going down was given recently in a BBC interview by Ben Ferencz, the most senior surviving US prosecutor from the Nuremberg trials. At age 98, Ferencz was still able to lucidly recall how scores of Nazi war criminals were let off the hook by the American and British authorities. Ferencz cited US General George Patton who remarked just before the final surrender of the Third Reich in early May 1945, as saying: «We’re fighting the wrong enemy». Patton’s candid expression of deeper animosity towards the Soviet Union than towards Nazi Germany was consistent with how the US and British ruling class had been colluding with Hitler’s Third Reich in a geo-strategic war against the Soviet Union and worker-led socialist movements arising across Europe and America.

In other words, the Cold War which the US and Britain embarked on after 1945 was but a continuation of hostile policy towards Moscow that was already underway well before the Second World War erupted in 1939 in the form of a build up of Nazi Germany.

end quote.

Posted by: Noirette | May 29 2017 13:53 utc | 70

@70 noirette

not only do they, have they, hated the russians for overthrowing the czar but they also really, really want all the land and resources of russia. especially those dinks on their dinky little island.

Posted by: jfl | May 29 2017 14:09 utc | 71

@70 noirette

the 'hero' of the battle of the uss forrestal ain't no general patton, but he's channeling him ...

"Russia and Putin Bigger Threat Than ISIS" - McCain

“I think ISIS can do terrible things and I worry a lot about what is happening with the Muslim faith,” he was heard saying.

“But it's the Russians who tried to destroy the very fundamentals of democracy and that is to change the outcome of an American election”, he added.

... old soldiers never die ... and they never forget the lies their forebearers told them as children.

Posted by: jfl | May 29 2017 14:32 utc | 72

@71 How do you see it playing out? RyanAir flights to Sebastopol? The Charge of the Chelsea Supporters?

Posted by: dh | May 29 2017 14:43 utc | 73


i don't know about those options, but the 'plan' so far has been - a la israel - to get the us to do the heavy lifting. i think the us - in its truss - has to be very careful that the wrong parts don't fall out as a result of over-exertion - of any body parts other than the mouth, and the rump is right on that. so i think that although they will fail collectively, in their joint aims, neither will give it up. ya gotta believe. empire is a one-track mind.

Posted by: jfl | May 29 2017 14:55 utc | 74

@74 The empire idea is looking a little tired IMO. Where's the motivation? The team spirit?
The US won't do anything alone. They need NATO. Sure they can fire of a few 'missles' but those tanks in Poland won't last 5 minutes.

Posted by: dh | May 29 2017 15:06 utc | 75

@70 noirette.. thanks... it is funny how innocent sounding comments reveal so much.. patton was caught pulling the emperors pants down right there...

Posted by: james | May 29 2017 15:30 utc | 76


The long taboo topic has been broached!


Posted by: ThatDamnGood | May 29 2017 16:33 utc | 77

Geez..Macron blast russian media during meeting with Putin

Posted by: Anonymous | May 29 2017 16:40 utc | 78

@Noirette 70

Re: Ben Ferencz

"... I once saw DPs beat an SS man and then strap him to the steel gurney of a crematorium. They slid him in the oven, turned on the heat and took him back out. Beat him again, and put him back in until he was burnt alive. I did nothing to stop it. I suppose I could have brandished my weapon or shot in the air, but I was not inclined to do so. Does that make me an accomplice to murder?

You know how I got witness statements? I'd go into a village where, say, an American pilot had parachuted and been beaten to death and line everyone one up against the wall. Then I'd say, "Anyone who lies will be shot on the spot." It never occurred to me that statements taken under duress would be invalid."

Yup, that great Nuremburg Prosecutor was a sadistic Ritchie boy trained to torture white gentiles and to frame them with confessions extracted through torture. Afterwards he was rewarded for his sadism and went on to help found the international criminal court. I hear that after Bela Kuhn that he is T-Bears greatest hero.

Posted by: Heros | May 29 2017 17:16 utc | 79


Actually Buddhism besides the "religions of the books" deal with those who do no reincarnate.
Single ticket vs multi city ticket holders. The problem come about becos those idiots think the single tickets holders are there to be slaves to them ignoring that they too were created by the same One who created them.

Posted by: ThatDamnGood | May 29 2017 17:25 utc | 80

Posted by: Noirette | May 29, 2017 9:39:37 AM | 69

Yes, Noirette, I do recommend Pauwels's book. It is a real eye-opener. And you can read it along with another French scholars' work, Bertrand M. Roehner, who points in the same direction: first the Nazis, and then the USA -- more or less, one and the same. I would recommend reading in the following order 1) Pauwels ' Myth of the Good War, 2) Bertrand M. Roehner's clarifications. It all ties in beautifully.

Posted by: Lea | May 29 2017 19:27 utc | 81

@78 anon

also Macron: France To Respond With Immediate Strike To Any Use Of Chemical Weapons In Syria, i guess that's a signal to al-cia-duh to get cracking with another false flag? he seems to be a younger, more irksome rump.

Posted by: jfl | May 29 2017 19:39 utc | 82


Absolutely crazy, he calls for war and warcrimes right there, but what but could we expect from a guy that is married his high school teacher, mix that with french colonialism and its a bad combo.
But sure keep bombing the only force that is killing the same people killing people in France Macron. Idiot!

Emmanuel Macron, then 15, kisses his school teacher, 40, who would later become his wife
Read more:

Posted by: Anonymous | May 29 2017 20:25 utc | 83

Complex times the 1930's and 40's. There were always countercurrents at high levels against simplistic anti-communism . At wars end there were moves afoot between English counter intelligence and their network of European operatives to murder General Patton .

Posted by: ashley albanese | May 29 2017 21:06 utc | 84

I am writing a small book, which will be available for free on-line. It will probably be called "Placebo Voting, the Sophistical Election Methods Cognoscenti, and the Great IRV Swindle"

It will be about our placebo elections systems. And about the many fanciful notions proposed by the elections methods pseudo-scholarship enterprise. This amounts to a gigantic virtual conspiracy that makes the 9/11 conspiracy look like a minor rick-rolling.

I will keep you posted about how the project is coming along, and when the book's website will become usable. You might not want to miss this. It will shock you.

Posted by: blues | May 29 2017 21:43 utc | 85

@85 It will have to be pretty hot stuff to shock MOA readers. Can't wait.

Posted by: dh | May 29 2017 22:23 utc | 86

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 28, 2017 11:22:47 PM | 44

I was given an answer to that question of how can we be regenerating if there are now 7 billion of us. The answer was you are now in and assuming rebirth is also a linear experience of time. If the birth and rebirth cycle is independent and outside of time you can be reborn in any time, anywhere, any number of times. And if you take it further and go with the Buddhist idea of rebirth you have any number of lives to live as any and all life forms in any and all times.

Posted by: frances | May 30 2017 0:19 utc | 87

@87 frances

i am amazed ... well i'm not really, we seem always to miss the point when it comes to the answers to questions that have no answers ... that we take the 'doctrine' of reincarnation literally. the buddha was never one for overturning peoples' beliefs. he let us persist in our phantasies, tried to minimize the harm done by them, encouraged insight into just what is what.

the fact is that we are all made of what we are made of and, burnt or buried or eaten by vultures, it goes nowhere at our individual deaths, it just goes on. so of course it is reused and recycled and new creatures come into being, and with such intricate rearrangements new 'souls' emerge from the incredibly complex structures in which 'we' are endlessly reincarnated, and die.

it is all just a poem to endless creation, the means for us all to realize and to join the struggle that persists through countless generations of individuals, stretching far beyond our own brief epiphanies in either direction. i think it's a great poem, and that poetry is the only way to answer the questions that have no answers.

Posted by: jfl | May 30 2017 1:31 utc | 88

OK, firstly I should point out that I gave up on Salon as a source for anything other than inane neoliberal propagandising sometime back in the 90's, but I do own to an occasional slouch past that sewer since then.

I drifted past the site today and came across this: Four years later, “Breaking Bad” remains the boldest indictment of modern American capitalism in TV history .
I cannot recommend the essay strongly enough. I suppose the primary reason I found the critique so powerful is that it dispenses with discussions of character arcs & development or 'important plot points' in favour of considering Breaking Bad purely in terms of the visual language employed in the show.
That may seem pretentious or irrelevant to some but Houston poet Anis Shivani constructs an argument that Breaking Bad is the most powerful attack on Capitalism's apogee neoliberalism, by using copious links to particular scenes from the series to support that contention.

If you have ever watched Breaking Bad you are likely to find Shivani's POV compelling.

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 30 2017 2:02 utc | 89 broadcast a brief interview with movie-maker Oliver Stone last night. He's fresh from putting the final touches to his latest doco based on his face-to-face interviews with Putin. Whilst he was careful not to let any cats out of the bag, the residual impression he left is that he believes that the Lunatics are running the (Christian Colonial) Asylum.

Oliver Stone says Putin misunderstood by the West
(link to transcript and video clip (~6 mins))

There is also a hair-raising interview with that Silly Old Fart McCain, in the same edition of 7-30 Report.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 30 2017 3:58 utc | 90

German Social Democrats, Left Party back Merkel’s anti-US stance

German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s anti-US stance has been endorsed by all of the establishment political parties and most of the media. They are exploiting outrage at US President Donald Trump’s arrogant behaviour at the NATO and G7 meetings to mobilise support for Germany to adopt an independent great power policy.

everyone in europe is at the gym, working out on the rump punching bag. but it's not just the rump, he only sent out the engraved invitations to pile on ...

Under the headline “A secret plan for Europe,” the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung wrote that after the rift with Trump, Merkel had activated “plan number 2: Europe,” which was composed of “several facets.” The refugee issue was of central importance: “Stopping the flight across the Mediterranean is seen in the Chancellor’s Office as critical for the future of the European Union.”

The second point identified by the newspaper is “defence.” Merkel wants to “spend more money” and allow “the cooperation of the armies to continue unhindered.”

The third point noted by the FAZ is the “economic and currency union.” In this area, the German government was prepared to compromise with Macron on the creation of economic governance for the euro zone and joint bonds (euro bonds), but, with regard to the latter, only on the condition that “structural reforms” are adopted, i.e., further attacks on social welfare programs and working conditions.

FAZ seems to be plugging the old time religion ... deutschland über alles

Spiegel Online went even further than the FAZ, raising the possibility of new geo-strategic alliances. Columnist Henrik Müller, a professor of economic and political journalism, appealed for a European-Chinese strategic partnership against the US.

The most important areas for “intensified European-Chinese cooperation” were global trade and climate change policy, wrote Müller. The US, as “the West’s leading power,” had once supported “the global economic institutions of the post-war era”--the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank and the World Trade Organization’s predecessor, the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT). Now it was necessary for “Europe and China to jointly fill the global regulatory vacuum.”

The German government and the EU are both eagerly seeking to expand their economic and political relations. The EU is exploiting Trump’s protectionism to conclude trade agreements around the globe. Negotiations are currently under way with 20 countries.

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi will visit Berlin today, accompanied by several government ministers. An EU-China summit is scheduled in Brussels on Thursday and Friday to be attended by Prime Minister Le Keqiang.

looks like the europeans ... germany and france at any rate ... have seen their chances, and are takin' 'em. and it looks as though some pretty solid plans have jelled in the backroom as well, and now called into play, at the invitation of the rump.

is russia going to be hemmed in and surrounded now by china and the eu? all that room ... all those resources ... don't see too much of the bri running through russia ... i guess that will be the task of the joint expeditionary forces ...

Posted by: jfl | May 30 2017 9:00 utc | 91

Reality and its Enemies

There is an ongoing reality that is destroying hundreds of thousands of lives in the Middle East. ...

Cancer-causing munition material: Materials such as tungsten and mercury are found in the casing of penetrating bombs used in the first and second Gulf wars. These have had long-term effects on survivors, especially those who have been wounded by these munitions. Iraqi-trained and Harvard-educated Dr. Omar Dewachi, a medical anthropologist at AUB fears that

“the base line of cancers [appearing in those exposed to these materials] has become very aggressive. … When a young woman of 30, with no family history of cancer, has two different primary cancers – in the breast and in the oesophagus – you have to ask what is happening.”

To this can be added that doctors are now “overwhelmed by the sheer number of [war] wounded patients in the Middle East.”

Drug-resistant bacteria: According to Glasgow-trained Professor Ghassan Abu-Sittah, head of plastic and reconstructive surgery at AUB Medical Center, drug resistance was not a problem during the Iran-Iraq War of 1980-1988. However, after the fiasco of Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait, things began to change. In the period after 1990, Iraq suffered under a vicious sanctions regime imposed by the United Nations at U.S. insistence. During the next 12 years “Iraqis were allowed to use only three antibiotics” and bacterial resistance quickly evolved. Those resistant bacteria spread throughout the region, particularly after the American invasion of the country in 2003. Today, according to a Medecins Sans Frontieres analysis,

“multidrug resistant [MDR] bacteria now accounts for most war wound infections across the Middle East, yet most medical facilities in the region do not even have the laboratory capacity to diagnose MDR, leading to significant delays and clinical mismanagement of festering wounds.”

As the cancers and untreatable infections grow in number in the Middle East, there is here in the United States a distressing effort to rehabilitate George W. Bush – the American president whose decisions and policies contributed mightily to this ongoing disaster.

Those seeking George W. Bush’s rehabilitation now like to contrast him to Donald Trump. One imagines they thereby hope to present him as a “moderate” Republican.

[A]ll of this is part of a public relations campaign and speaks to the power of reputation remodeling – the creation of a facade that hides reality. In order to do this you have to “control the evidence” – in this case by ignoring it.

These sorts of sleights-of-hand are only possible against the background of pervasive public ignorance.

So what is likely to be more influential with the locally oriented American public: George W. Bush’s rehabilitated image reported on repeatedly in the nation’s mainstream media, or the foreign-based, horror-strewn consequences of his deeds reported upon infrequently?

If reputation remodelers can do this for George W. Bush, then there is little doubt that someday it will be done for Donald Trump. Life, so full of suffering, is also full of such absurdities.

full spectrum death, devastation, and destruction. not only the entire country destroyed, but the human environment as well.

usa! usa! usa! george bush, yeah! usa! ...

Posted by: jfl | May 30 2017 10:02 utc | 92

Besieged Shiite city bombarded by Saudi regime forces on Ramadan

Several buildings were set ablaze, Tuesday, following the Saudi regime forces’ continued aggression on the city.

With the entire city encircled, no firefighters could enter Al-Awamiya to put out the fire; this required civilians to get involved to help put out the blaze without proper equipment.

Despite calls from the United Nations (U.N.), the Saudi regime has refused to lift the siege on Al-Awamiya, citing the grave “terrorist threat” inside the city as their reason for their refusal.

the rump's soul-brothers at work at home. and yemen, and syria. the worldwide terrorist threat emanates from the usa/ksa. everyone knows it. there will be dancing in the streets worldwide on the day it collapses.

Posted by: jfl | May 30 2017 11:14 utc | 93

South Korea’s new leader orders probe into ‘unauthorized’ US deployment

South Korea’s new President Moon Jae-in has ordered an investigation into the “unauthorized” deployment of four additional THAAD missile launchers by the United States to the country’s soil.

The deployment of THAAD, which came amid tensions with North Korea, was met with strong opposition from people in South Korea, including the residents of Seongju County, where the missile system is installed.

The installation was agreed by the government of Moon’s predecessor Park ­Geun-hye, who was impeached and ousted over a corruption scandal.

During his election campaign prior to the May 9 election, Moon had urged a parliamentary review of the controversial deployment, which has angered Pyongyang.

Russia and China have also expressed deep concern over the controversial deployment of the American missile system on the Korean Peninsula.

the chinese don't want it.
the russians don't want it.
the south koreans don't want it.
the north koreans don't want it.

that leaves the usofa, certainly, and the japanese?
built for their pleasure.

can there be a g7 moment coming in east asia?

Posted by: jfl | May 30 2017 11:24 utc | 94

this whole uproar about trump,kushner ivanka,the Russians ,comey,is pure comedy.what a hoot reality TV at its finest.when trump walks out the white house wearing a day glo t shirt with the words maga on it I will be received.

Posted by: Freddy fingers | May 30 2017 11:32 utc | 95

Putin considers that sanctions will not help to unify Kiev with Donbass

Emanuel Macron stated that he though new sanctions against Russia very probable.

rothschild's boy follows orders. this whole sanctions regime is going to collapse along with us/eu funny money finance. right when they least expect it.

Posted by: jfl | May 30 2017 11:39 utc | 96

In meeting with Putin, Macron distances France from Washington’s anti-Russia policy

French foreign policy under Macron is following the path laid out by Germany, the hegemonic power inside the European Union (EU)—a path that, while highly bellicose, is increasingly independent and opposed to that of Washington.

While advancing an aggressive imperialist policy in the Syrian and Ukrainian crises, Macron distanced himself from US policy towards Russia. While Washington has repeatedly risked an all-out military clash with Russia, a major nuclear power, in both Ukraine and Syria, Macron said that his goal was to “reinforce our partnership with Russia.”

On Syria, Macron insisted on the need for an aggressive intervention for regime change, which he euphemistically referred to as “a democratic transition in Syria.”

He listed circumstances under which France could participate in the type of naked military aggression perpetrated by US President Donald Trump on April 7, when Washington fired dozens of cruise missiles at a Syrian air base hosting Russian and Syrian troops.

“Two very clear red lines exist on our side: the use of chemical weapons will provoke immediate retaliation by the French, as well as the need to preserve humanitarian corridors,” Macron said.

On Ukraine, Macron said that he and Putin intended to organize “with the briefest possible delay” a meeting with Berlin and Kiev to arrange a “de-escalation of the conflict.” They thus supported the so-called “Normandy” diplomatic format of talks on Ukraine involving Germany, Russia, France, and Ukraine. This format, which excludes Washington, emerged in 2015 after Washington and Berlin organized a coup in Kiev led by far right militias to topple a pro-Russian government.

Now, Macron is clearly building on EU attempts to keep anti-Russian factions in the US ruling elite, particularly in the Democratic Party, from trapping Europe in a conflict with Russia for which it is not prepared.

Macron’s policy is not to prevent a major war, but to prepare for it. Despite polls showing overwhelming opposition by two-thirds of French youth to the re-imposition of the draft, Macron proposed to return to universal military service, now extended to young women, as well as multi-billion-euro increases in French military spending.

it looks as though the micron feels he can fool putin with his bluff. or was he referring to us sanctions, which the europeans will not join? he seems like a micro-rump, who perhaps bathes more frequently, or is at least freer with the eau de cologne.

Posted by: jfl | May 30 2017 12:00 utc | 97


I don't think Novorussia media are reliable.

This is official German media

According to French media Macron said nothing on sanctions but suggested to reconvene the French/Germany/Ukraine/Russia talks. German media claims to have heard Macron saying new sanctions "only if tensions escalate" with an 'only' in it.

'Novorussia' did not get the Crimea solution they wanted, at present they profit from Ukraine Russia antagony, they would hate to have to rejoin Ukraine which Putin probably would prefer with conditions (no NATO, joined economic sphere) right.

Europe is in no position to sustain Ukraine, so Putin presumably will get what he wants with the US being in no position to interfere.

Posted by: somebody | May 30 2017 12:15 utc | 98

When I log out of my account and use a diff one to try to view the replies to this tweet I can't see my replies!

Posted by: Tom Murphy | May 30 2017 13:26 utc | 99

@98 sb

i agree on the sanctions take ... it is inconsistent with the rest of the micro-spiel. we'll see what actually happens. putin may well wish that ukraine be put back together again ... but it's hard to imagine that happening. all the king's horses and all the king's men ...

Posted by: jfl | May 30 2017 13:51 utc | 100

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