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May 7, 2017
Open Thread 2017-18
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http://thesaker.is/the-us-bill-h-r-1644-to-kill-russian-food-export-and-chinese-trade/ Posted by: Brad | May 7 2017 17:10 utc | 1 “Corruption is why we win.” Posted by: dumbass | May 7 2017 17:38 utc | 2 Pseudo left scribe Louis Proyect continues to insist the Syrian “revolt” represents a progressive proletarian revolution with minimal jihadist influence. Posted by: jayc | May 7 2017 17:49 utc | 4 @5 Posted by: spudski | May 7 2017 17:57 utc | 5 Shock of the day…..well maybe MOA readers won’t find it so shocking…. Posted by: dh | May 7 2017 18:25 utc | 7 @5 Posted by: kgw | May 7 2017 18:29 utc | 8 @ “dumbass” in the “France” thread: my point is that when historians/liars tout the “collapse of communism” they fail to draw a distinction between Stalin and Khruschev. Thus: Stalin died and was replaced by just another dictator. But that was the moment the Soviet experiment went off the rails, culminating in the pathetic Gorbachev falling beneath the spell of Reptilian Glamour. Posted by: ruralito | May 7 2017 18:29 utc | 9 interesting article that confused ponderer shared over at sst… gives a greek perspective and more… What Are They Hiding about the USA Attack on Syria? Posted by: james | May 7 2017 18:30 utc | 10 ruralito @ 9 Posted by: dumbass | May 7 2017 18:48 utc | 11 Posted by: dh | May 7, 2017 2:25:06 PM | 7 Posted by: somebody | May 7 2017 19:10 utc | 12 spudski @5 & kgw @8– Posted by: karlof1 | May 7 2017 19:17 utc | 13 @4
Produced by National Geographic – which most USians view as trustworthy and non-political. Also slated for release worldwide. Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 7 2017 19:22 utc | 14 I don’t understand James Corbett citing an article from the NYT and joining in its mockery of Trump’s “armada” going in the wrong direction. The mockery has spread to PBS. Posted by: dumbass | May 7 2017 19:27 utc | 15 The issue with Syria and “supporting Assad” (versus utter violent anarchy like libya and/or some other Sunni/KSA supported strongman like Egypt) such “when did you stop beating your wife” b.s. with the suggestion that one is condoning or accepting “crimes against humanity” by advocating Assad stay in power until he (and/or his party) is defeated in the normal course of national elections (another connundrum of “legitimacy” what with the percentage of the population either displaced or now “refugees”, although a sustained national ceasefire and the prospect of election might see a mass migration of Syrians returning to Syria) … Posted by: susan sunflower | May 7 2017 19:38 utc | 16 Posted by: ruralito | May 7, 2017 2:29:31 PM | 9 Posted by: somebody | May 7 2017 19:42 utc | 17 @Susan Sunflower #16: Posted by: Pacifica Advocate | May 7 2017 20:04 utc | 18 kgw @8 Posted by: spudski | May 7 2017 20:32 utc | 19 In What Fascism Talk Really Accomplishes Peter Berkowitz of Stanford misses the duopoly forest for the partisan trees. Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 7 2017 20:45 utc | 20 ‘President’ Kushner Selling Visas to Rich Chinese. For a mere 500K, rich Chinese can move to the USA, as long as they do ‘business’ with the Kushner mob. Posted by: Greg Bacon | May 7 2017 20:48 utc | 21 Posted by: somebody | May 7, 2017 3:42:21 PM | 17 Posted by: ruralito | May 7 2017 20:56 utc | 22 http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/268309/World/Region/Iran-minister-says-will-leave-no-part-of-Saudi-Ara.aspx Posted by: Mina | May 7 2017 20:56 utc | 23 Long time lurker- Now with time to comment. Posted by: Køn | May 7 2017 21:05 utc | 24 Apropos the Vincent. Posted by: Køn | May 7 2017 21:09 utc | 25 http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/07/obama-biography-stirs-controversy-with-tales-of-politics-sex-and-a-rising-star Posted by: jawbone | May 7 2017 21:51 utc | 26 dh @ 7 — I’d just finished reading the Great Brexit Robbery at The Guardian. The big monied rightwing Repub donors and their massive funding of both the Leave side of Brexit and their adoption of Trump when he seemed to be the one the public would go for. Posted by: jawbone | May 7 2017 21:55 utc | 27 Køn @ 24, 25: Very perceptive comments, both of them – and welcome to the Bar! Posted by: Jen | May 7 2017 22:13 utc | 28 will i am frenches and i can assures youse dat macron is not a gaydar zionist or transgender frankfurt school or donmeh jewisher woman gays already. Posted by: dr klaus wuderlicks | May 7 2017 22:14 utc | 29 Posted by: Køn | May 7, 2017 5:09:16 PM | 25 Posted by: ruralito | May 7 2017 23:14 utc | 30 The last IS pocket in Mosul is rapidly shrinking. Posted by: Thadius | May 7 2017 23:38 utc | 31 @30 Posted by: Køn | May 8 2017 0:02 utc | 32 another blow for freedom and democracy! Posted by: Perimetr | May 8 2017 0:54 utc | 33 @33 Perimetr Posted by: Grieved | May 8 2017 2:09 utc | 34 Ignorant comments from bin Salman. They must really think Trump has their back…. Posted by: dh | May 8 2017 2:11 utc | 35 Posted by: Thadius | May 7, 2017 7:38:14 PM | 31 Posted by: stumpy | May 8 2017 3:13 utc | 36 >> Anglo-American historian Robert Conquest said Posted by: dumbass | May 8 2017 3:32 utc | 37 Stalin and Trotsky had opposing views on the critical matter of “Socialism in one country”[Stalin} and Socialism exported outside USSR borders, immediately Europe and specificly Germany [Trotsky]. Posted by: chu teh | May 8 2017 3:48 utc | 38 Ruralito and all, Posted by: dumbass | May 8 2017 4:06 utc | 39 add to my above commint: Posted by: chu teh | May 8 2017 4:13 utc | 40 @Køn | May 7, 2017 5:05:02 Ever heard of this? Posted by: ProPeace | May 8 2017 4:20 utc | 41 Someone on twitter wanted me to explain the 9/11 Report and what it says regarding Israel) I made a new page ( https://sites.google.com/site/representativepress/911-report ) to explain what the 9/11 Report said and why it was written as it was. Posted by: Tom Murphy | May 8 2017 4:23 utc | 42 And also Black Eagle Trust Posted by: ProPeace | May 8 2017 4:32 utc | 43 Posted by: ruralito | May 7, 2017 4:56:19 PM | 22
The USSR called themselves socialist – not communist – for a reason. Posted by: somebody | May 8 2017 5:27 utc | 44 [deleted long, long quote stolen from elsewhere. Posted by: ProPeace | May 8 2017 6:18 utc | 45 Re: Posted by: dumbass | May 8, 2017 12:06:58 AM | 39
I’m not sure how their plan failed, it worked out perfectly. Germany & Russia weakened for decades. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-british-brexit-robbery-hijacked-democracy Posted by: okie farmer | May 8 2017 8:43 utc | 47 Some recent moves by the Brutish Empire: Posted by: ProPeace | May 8 2017 9:11 utc | 48 For an excellent explanation of the “de-escalation treaty,” please go here, for it’s quite good, http://theduran.com/de-escalation-areas-destroy-al-qaeda-syria/ Posted by: karlof1 | May 8 2017 15:37 utc | 49 julian @ 46 Posted by: dumbass | May 8 2017 16:01 utc | 50 >> pitting the two against each other. Posted by: dumbass | May 8 2017 16:04 utc | 51 @karlof1 | 49 Posted by: AtaBrit | May 8 2017 16:53 utc | 52 @Thadius | 31 Posted by: AtaBrit | May 8 2017 17:17 utc | 53 AtaBrit @52– Posted by: karlof1 | May 8 2017 18:15 utc | 54 Posted by: AtaBrit | May 8, 2017 1:17:39 PM | 53 Posted by: stumpy | May 8 2017 18:16 utc | 55 https://www.sott.net/article/349040-Partitioning-the-Middle-East-A-Roadmap-to-US-Israeli-Hegemony Posted by: Brad | May 8 2017 18:53 utc | 56 If your laptop/desktop runs on an Intel chip with the vPro sign, then you might want to turn AMT off in the BIOS as it’s backdoor created by Intel that operates on a low level of your computer. That means that Intel (and thus NSA/CIA/… doubt there are many persons of interest dwelling in these forums) can remotely log on to your computer as long as it’s hooked on to the internet, and perform ANYTHING they want. That means extracting everything, even keys from your RAM memory that are used to encrypt your HD but also planting files on your computer like highly illicit pornography for example. This can all be done remotely, traceless and without you ever knowing and is thus the perfect crime. Posted by: xor | May 8 2017 19:14 utc | 57 @stumpy | 55 Posted by: AtaBrit | May 8 2017 19:38 utc | 58 Found an english language article on the Kurds taking the war to Iran point I mentioned above. Wishful thinking in my opinion, but maybe it does herald the future use of Kurds as an instrument of regime change / management by the US/ Germany. Interesting read whatever conclusions you draw … Posted by: AtaBrit | May 8 2017 19:56 utc | 59 @Thadius 31 Posted by: smuks | May 8 2017 20:57 utc | 60 @dh etc. Posted by: smuks | May 8 2017 21:18 utc | 61 @ Posted by: xor | May 8, 2017 3:14:40 PM | 57
@dh @smuks Posted by: jfl | May 8 2017 23:56 utc | 63 Erdogan Regime Establishes a Military Base in Qatar, Opposition Objects
… i still have to wonder if turkey does not have its eyes on the prize in riyadh. Posted by: jfl | May 9 2017 0:15 utc | 64 @63 jfl Posted by: MadMax2 | May 9 2017 0:39 utc | 65 @jfl 63 Posted by: smuks | May 9 2017 2:10 utc | 66 I would not shed a tear if the earth opened up and swallowed Canary Wharf and the SquareMile. Nevertheless, though they be bastards I would much rather the FinanceTories be in charge of Britain than the LoonyBrexitTories. When I fly in a plane I want the pilot to be a qualified pilot even if he flies to a destination that I don’t like than have a gibbering baboon at the controls. Posted by: Køn | May 9 2017 2:26 utc | 67 @67 k, ‘I would much rather the FinanceTories be in charge of Britain than the LoonyBrexitTories …’ Posted by: jfl | May 9 2017 6:04 utc | 68 “Washington’s Long War on Syria, Book Launch, Montreal, Canada, May 2, 2017” Posted by: x | May 9 2017 8:35 utc | 69 Don’t know if this information’s been posted yet, but I was made aware of the existence of a UN Holocaust File whose total amount of information wasn’t released until last month against the demands of the Outlaw US Empire and its mother UK. An article by Finian Cunningham alerted me to its existence, http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/05/04/deep-history-us-britain-never-ending-cold-war-russia.html I then googled UN Holocaust File and got a trove of hits, the lead being a Guardian article headlined “Opening of UN files on Holocaust will ‘rewrite chapters of history’,” https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/apr/18/opening-un-holocaust-files-archive-war-crimes-commission Posted by: karlof1 | May 9 2017 21:22 utc | 70 Add to 70: Posted by: karlof1 | May 9 2017 21:37 utc | 71 Add to 71: Posted by: karlof1 | May 9 2017 21:52 utc | 72 Very bizarre. Trump fired FBI Director Comey even though in the dismissal letter he went out of his way to write While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgment of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the Bureau, Trump wrote.
Posted by: Circe | May 10 2017 2:01 utc | 73 I was impressed by how well this site laid out its reporting of Fake News Posted by: psychohistorian | May 10 2017 7:31 utc | 74 Rahm Emmanuel has been turning Chicago into another Gaza (Sarko did this in Paris): Posted by: ProPeace | May 10 2017 10:40 utc | 75 Forgot the link: Sarkozy’s Strategy of Violence
Something very, very, very nasty has been been staged for France to happen soon… Posted by: ProPeace | May 10 2017 10:48 utc | 76 Forgot the link: Sarkozy’s Strategy of Violence
Something very, very, very nasty has been been staged for France to happen soon… Posted by: ProPeace | May 10 2017 10:48 utc | 77 Forgot the link: Sarkozy’s Strategy of Violence
Something very, very, very nasty has been been staged for France to happen soon… Posted by: ProPeace | May 10 2017 10:48 utc | 78 No clue why triple-posting above, sorry… Posted by: ProPeace | May 10 2017 11:01 utc | 79 I recommend everybody should see an excellent movie by Ken Loach “The Wind That Shakes the Barley”. Usually I plan for all the flick I see, but that was that rare occasion when I started watching it by accident and could not stop. Posted by: ProPeace | May 11 2017 0:25 utc | 80 British Democracy is hacked !!!!!! Posted by: Willy2 | May 11 2017 20:44 utc | 81 – There was a leak to the New York Times. The message was that Obama warned Trump about Mike Flynn in Nov. 10 Oval Office meeting. Posted by: Willy2 | May 11 2017 20:59 utc | 82 – Matt Taibbi wrote a book about the “Doomed” Posted by: Willy2 | May 11 2017 21:04 utc | 83 – “Trump the destroyer”. Trump and his cronies want to destroy/dismantle the US government from within. Posted by: Willy2 | May 11 2017 21:12 utc | 84 September 6, 1998 , Toronto Star Posted by: denk | May 12 2017 4:11 utc | 85 Sometimes you have to wonder where the bullshit ends. Posted by: Peter AU | May 12 2017 7:21 utc | 86 Is it only my impression that any false flags or military offensives since the “Arab Spring” have been conducted over weekends? Posted by: ProPeace | May 12 2017 8:09 utc | 87 ProPeace 87 Posted by: Peter AU | May 12 2017 9:19 utc | 88 A little rant. Posted by: Peter AU | May 12 2017 9:28 utc | 89 mmm… Trump nationalist seems better than Clinton or Obama Globalist for the world, but making Obama’s excepional – ly arrogant nation great again? I think I prefer the Chinese. Posted by: Peter AU | May 12 2017 9:45 utc | 90 Thanks to Saudi Bombardment, Yemen is now Facing an Outbreak of Cholera … if there’s any one group on earth that deserves a taste of its own ‘medicine’ it’s the criminal saudi royal regime. Posted by: jfl | May 12 2017 10:11 utc | 91 @jfl Some medicine been already delivered: (Yemen News Agency SABA)
Posted by: ProPeace | May 12 2017 10:36 utc | 92 @Peter AU #89 tell me about it Batteries I just cannot get batteries from china any more. Still I hear the situation in Oz may be worse, I buy a handful of reconditioned Galaxy s7’s now and again from China and I just cannot get one to my daughter in Oz, Apparently Oz customs just won’t let mobile phones in unless they are from Samsung themselves. This is protectionism by stealth – a way to keep monopolies unchallenged & no one hardly seems to notice or care. amerika is expanding its ban on laptops as onboard luggage to include some euro destination/sources and altho the euro courts have said it is illogical there is no serious opposition. We appear to be surrounded by those asleep at the wheel. Posted by: Debsisdead | May 12 2017 11:51 utc | 93 jfl re: cholera in Yemen Posted by: Anon | May 13 2017 9:42 utc | 95 @92 pp Posted by: jfl | May 13 2017 10:27 utc | 96 @95 anon Posted by: jfl | May 13 2017 10:34 utc | 97 How long before west, media will blame “russian hackers” for the ransomware? Perhaps they have already done that? Posted by: Anon | May 13 2017 12:46 utc | 98 I wonder how RF will react. If they accept United$hit$ will have a fit! Posted by: ruralito | May 13 2017 15:23 utc | 99 @98, Media will have to be clever because, apparently, Russian computers were the most affected. Posted by: ruralito | May 13 2017 15:26 utc | 100 |
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