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May 25, 2017

Details Emerge On The Manchester Blowback From Britain's Terror Support

There are now a few more details on the Manchester attack and how it relates to British support for Takfirs in its wars on independent countries in the Middle East and elsewhere. The picture has not changed though from the one we painted yesterday. The attack was a blow back from the British use of Takfiris to take down governments it dislikes.

In 2011 when the British, French and the U.S. waged war on Libya, the British government sent British-Libyan Takfiris to fight against the Libyan government forces:

Belal Younis, another British citizen who went to Libya, described how he was stopped under 'Schedule 7' counter-terrorism powers on his return to the UK after a visit to the country in early 2011. ...

He said he was subsequently asked by an intelligence officer from MI5, the UK's domestic security agency: "Are you willing to go into battle?"

"While I took time to find an answer he turned and told me the British government have no problem with people fighting against Gaddafi," he told MEE.

Known Libyan radicals were released from control order in Britain, given their passports back and hauled off to Libya. There British special forces were on the ground and British fighter planes in the air to support their fighting against the legitimate Libyan government. MI-5, the domestic British spy service, "sorted" the fighters sent from Britain. The responsible British Home Secretary at that time? One Theresa May, now the British Prime Minister.

The father of the Manchester assassin fought in Libya in a gang related to the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, a known al-Qaeda entity. His son, then 16 years old, joined him:

In 2011, when Abedi was still a teenager, he traveled to Libya and fought alongside his father in a militia known as the Tripoli Brigade to oust Gadhafi as the revolts of the Arab Spring swept North Africa and the Middle East, a family friend said.

The son returned to Manchester but became a well known danger to society. Members of Libyan exile society in Manchester reported him at least five times as a dangerous Jihadi to the local authorities. There were no reactions. Additionally:

Abedi's own family background might also have been a red flag to authorities. His father was a member of the militant Libyan Islamic Fighting Group.
France’s interior minister said the 22-year-old had “proven” links with Islamic State and that both British and French intelligence services had information that the attacker had been in Syria.

According to the Financial Times Salman Abedi came back to Britain a few days before the attack via Turkey and Germany. He had come from Libya to Turkey but probably stayed a few days in Syria to receive his last orders.

All these attacks by Takfiris, in Paris, in Brussels, Berlin and Manchester as well as in Libya, Syria and Iraq, have their ideological roots in Wahhabism, the extreme version of Salafist Islam promoted in Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The roots of such terrorism are in Riyadh and Doha and will have to be fought there.

But the Saudi and Qatari rulers pay extraordinary amounts of protection money in the form of weapon purchases from British and U.S. companies. As long as they keep doing so they will be kept in place as useful props in the bigger scheme.

For the ruling classes in Britain and elsewhere the victims in Manchester are just collateral damage in their quest to rule the world with help of the Wahhabi storm troopers.

Meanwhile "western" media and news agencies continue to promote life in al-Qaeda country, "Now with Arabian horse races !", and incited more youngsters into joining the deadly cult.

Posted by b on May 25, 2017 at 16:59 UTC | Permalink

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My favourite theory is that Saudi want to clean up Qatar's Muslim Brotherhood networks.

They also need a fall guy for the war on terror in case people notice that ISIS must have backers.

Al Arabya - What Bin Laden documents reveal about his relations with Qatar

Bin Laden being a very Saudi family of course.

Egypt is bombing some people in Eastern Libya for the attack on Copts. I am sure these people are not Saudi clients.

Posted by: somebody | May 26 2017 21:45 utc | 101

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US contemplates sanctions against Qatar

A conference on Tuesday entitled: “Qatar and the Muslim Brotherhood’s Global Affiliates: New US Administration Considers New Policies” by the Foundation for the Defence of Democracies with the Hudson Institute and The George Washington University’s Centre for Cyber & Homeland Security featured a discussion with Robert Gates, former Secretary of Defense (2006-2011) and Ed Royce, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chair.

“If Qatar is supporting Hamas, then we are talking about sanctions against Qatar,” Royce said at the conference.

“I think we are moving on legislation that addresses those states who don’t keep their commitment with respect to changing behaviour supporting organisations that are sowing terror. This becomes the acid test.”

On his part, Gates, using the context of science fiction, compared the Muslim Brotherhood to shapeshifters.

“They will look like whatever they think you want them to look like,” he said.

Posted by: somebody | May 26 2017 21:53 utc | 102

@102 Robert Gates needs to chill. Qatar says statements attributed to Al Thani are fake news. Russians hackers making mischief again I expect.

"Qatari officials quickly denied these statements attributed to their monarch. They accused an "unknown entity" of hacking Qatar News Agency and publishing false statements."

Read more:

Posted by: dh | May 26 2017 23:10 utc | 103

Thanks for this excellent piece, as always, B
As you said, the terrorist snake has to be killed in Riyadh and Doha...

Posted by: guy | May 27 2017 6:00 utc | 104


what do you make of the 'turkish base' being built in qatar? is it being 'unbuilt' as we ... think? or was this the exact eventuality in mind at its inception?

Posted by: jfl | May 27 2017 8:29 utc | 105

dh, read the Angry Arab, it's more real than you think

Posted by: Mina | May 27 2017 9:05 utc | 106

Posted by: jfl | May 27, 2017 4:29:36 AM | 105

Turkey has become a complete blackbox.

Reading Hürriyet you conclude that a) Erdogan phones Putin to confirm a "strategic partnership" b) agrees on a one year accession calendar with the EU (none of this in German media), c) will discuss for another fortnight access to Incirlik airbase with Germany (also in German media), d) will try to get Russia to import its tomatoes again.

Reading Western media NATO does not like their Turkish officers removed post coup.

Over the last six decades, Turkey's NATO membership has not only supplied the country with advanced defense technology, it also provided rigorous professional training and discipline that has allowed the Turkish military to operate well beyond international standards. If Turkey's post-coup military operation "Euphrates Shield" in Syria, which produced 71 Turkish casualties over seven months, is any measure, Erdogan's purge of the military's most NATO-experienced cadres does not bode well for the country's military capability.

Posted by: somebody | May 27 2017 12:07 utc | 107

somebody 102

Posted by: Curtis | May 27 2017 12:36 utc | 108

somebody 102
Good point on the misdirection method being used. It's funny that Qatar can support a group of extremists in Libya and Syria and that's okay but if they dare support Hamas, sanctions are considered. Would the US really do sanctions on a state where it has a military presence/base? I doubt it. And I'm not sure I believe the Saudi/Qatari rift story. This was played up during the situation in Egypt a few years ago.

Posted by: Curtis | May 27 2017 12:41 utc | 109

Salon/Alternet covered the blowback aspect of the Manchester attack story.

Posted by: Curtis | May 27 2017 12:54 utc | 110

@106 I do read the Angry Arab Mina. My impression of the Saudi/Qatar rift is a battle between various Arab media. Of course it could be something bigger behind the scenes but we need more evidence.

Posted by: dh | May 27 2017 13:19 utc | 111

Shadow Company Official Full Documentary

Posted by: okie farmer | May 27 2017 13:20 utc | 112

UK troops on the street is not a vote winner.
Official panic levels de-escalated down to only 'Shit Scared' (vote Tory).
A dozen suspects held for questioning etc.

Nothing to see here folks, back to your fish'n chips and Dr Who.

Meanwhile another death from Tory NHS shutdown.

Corbyn set to win -- possibly landslide if shock therapy experiment wears off.
(How dare he link British foreign policy to Manchester!)

Posted by: x | May 27 2017 14:13 utc | 113

111 does this count?
Qatar asks Iran to coordinate gas output in joint field

Qatar restarts development of world's biggest gas field after 12-year freeze

Kaabi said the decision to lift the moratorium was not prompted by Iran's plan to develop its part of the shared field.

"What we are doing today is something completely new and we will in future of course ... share information on this with them (Iran)."

Posted by: somebody | May 27 2017 14:35 utc | 114

add 114 - more Iranian gas

Meanwhile, the price of Iranian gas supplied to Turkey was $5.8/mmBTU in 2016, Ellinas said.

"At such price by the time it reaches Europe it will be over $7/mmBTU, which would be too high to attract buyers," the analyst said.

Iran should firstly construct a 1,800-km pipeline (Igat9) with 17 compressors and raise at least $6-8 billion worth of investment to connect the South Pars field to its north-western regions to be able to export gas to the EU through the Southern Gas Corridor, or a new pipeline.

The Southern corridor is an EU project to reduce dependency on Russian gas with different pipelines via Azerbaijan, Georgia, Turkey, Greece, Albania, Italy.

Posted by: somebody | May 27 2017 15:05 utc | 115

@114 Hardly a rapprochement with Iran but it will ruffle some Saudi feathers. I read it as Iran needing more gas for domestic use but Qatar could be scared of losing its share of the LNG market.

Do you have anything on the Qatar/Hamas connection?

Posted by: dh | May 27 2017 15:18 utc | 116

116 I think they lost control together with Khaled Meshaal

Despite Hamas’s control of Gaza, Meshaal has never lived there. He resides in Qatar, from where he acted as the public face of Hamas for more than a decade. Reports in January 2015 speculated that Qatar would expel Meshaal and other Hamas leaders as part of a plan to align with its regional allies in the fight against terrorism.* Qatar denied the reports and Qatar’s top diplomat called Meshaal a “dear guest” in his country.*

Reports emerged in March 2016 that Meshaal was struggling to maintain power. According to Israeli analysts, Meshaal faced a challenge to his authority from Yahya Sinwar, a co-founder of Hamas’s Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades who had reportedly orchestrated power shifts within the Gaza-based Hamas leadership. Sinwar has advocated closer ties with Iran, which has continued funding the al-Qassam Brigades while cutting funding to Hamas as a whole. Meshaal, however, tried to align the organization with Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

Posted by: somebody | May 27 2017 16:57 utc | 117

There is no such think as independent Arab media. Ask patriarchy and tribalism why.

Posted by: Mina | May 28 2017 10:05 utc | 118

corr: thing

Posted by: Mina | May 28 2017 10:05 utc | 119

Seamus Padraig @ No. 1 comment. It's so refreshing to see intelligence applied to all these hoaxes. On this one, they've finally begun to use PHONEY hoax youtube films so that people will think that all the hoax disclosures are phoney. For that reason it's easier to evaluate the earlier hoax terror attacks.

Here's one in Brussels:

There's an extraordinary amount of public citizen investigation of the footage for the Paris hoax.
Just google "Paris hoax".

Good to see you in action again, Seamus.

Posted by: Penelope | May 30 2017 23:25 utc | 120

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