Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
April 14, 2017
Why North Korea Needs Nukes – And How To End That

(Updated below)

Media say,
the U.S. may
or may not
kill a number of North Koreans
for this or that
or no reason
but call North Korea
'the volatile and unpredictable regime'

b.

Now consider what the U.S. media don't tell you about Korea:

BEIJING, March 8 (Xinhua) — China proposed "double suspension" to defuse the looming crisis on the Korean Peninsula, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Wednesday.

"As a first step, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) may suspend its nuclear and missile activities in exchange for the suspension of large-scale U.S.-Republic of Korea (ROK) military exercises," Wang told a press conference on the sidelines of the annual session of the National People's Congress.

Wang said the nuclear issue on the Korean Peninsula is mainly between the DPRK and the United States, but China, as a next-door neighbor with a lips-and-teeth relationship with the Peninsula, is indispensable to the resolution of the issue.

FM Wang, 'the lips', undoubtedly transmitted an authorized message from North Korea: "The offer is (still) on the table and China supports it."

North Korea has made the very same offer in January 2015. The Obama administration rejected it. North Korea repeated the offer in April 2016 and the Obama administration rejected it again. This March the Chinese government conveyed and supported the long-standing North Korean offer. The U.S. government, now under the Trump administration, immediately rejected it again. The offer, made and rejected three years in a row, is sensible. Its rejection only led to a bigger nuclear arsenal and to more missiles with longer reach that will eventually be able to reach the United States.

North Korea is understandably nervous each and every time the U.S. and South Korea launch their very large yearly maneuvers and openly train for invading North Korea and for killing its government and people. The maneuvers have large negative impacts on North Korea's economy.

North Korea justifies its nuclear program as the economically optimal way to respond to these maneuvers.

Each time the U.S. and South Korea launch their very large maneuvers, the North Korean conscription army (1.2 million strong) has to go into a high state of defense readiness. Large maneuvers are a classic starting point for military attacks. The U.S.-South Korean maneuvers are (intentionally) held during the planting (April/May) or harvesting (August) season for rice when North Korea needs each and every hand in its few arable areas. Only 17% of the northern landmass is usable for agriculture and the climate in not favorable. The cropping season is short. Seeding and harvesting days require peak labor.

The southern maneuvers directly threaten the nutritional self-sufficiency of North Korea. In the later 1990s they were one of the reasons behind a  severe famine. (Lack of hydrocarbons and fertilizer due to sanctions as well as a too rigid economic system were other main reasons.)

North Korean soldiers on agricultural duty – bigger

Its nuclear deterrent allows North Korea to reduce its conventional military readiness especially during the all important agricultural seasons. Labor withheld from the fields and elsewhere out of military necessity can go back to work. This is now the official North Korean policy known as 'byungjin'. (Byungjin started informally in the mid 2000nds after U.S. President Bush tuned up his hostile policy towards North Korea – Chronology of U.S.-North Korean Nuclear and Missile Diplomacy)

A guaranteed end of the yearly U.S. maneuvers would allow North Korea to lower its conventional defenses without relying on nukes. The link between the U.S. maneuvers and the nuclear deterrent North Korea is making in its repeated offer is a direct and logical connection.

The North Korean head of state Kim Jong-un has officially announced a no-first-use policy for its nuclear capabilities:

"As a responsible nuclear weapons state, our republic will not use a nuclear weapon unless its sovereignty is encroached upon by any aggressive hostile forces with nukes," Kim told the Workers' Party of Korea congress in Pyongyang. Kim added that the North "will faithfully fulfill its obligation for non-proliferation and strive for the global denuclearization."

During the congress, as elsewhere, Kim Jong Un also emphasized (transcript, pdf, v. slow) the above described connection between nuclear armament and economic development. Summarized:

After decades of emphasizing military strength under his father, Korea is moving toward Kim's “byongjin” — a two-pronged approach aimed at enhancing nuclear might while improving living conditions.

The byongjin strategy, despised by the Obama administration, has been successful:

What are the sources of [North Korea's economic] growth? One explanation might be that less is now spent on the conventional military sector, while nuclear development at this stage is cheaper—it may only cost 2 to 3 percent of GNP, according to some estimates. Theoretically, byungjin is more “economy friendly” than the previous “songun” or military-first policy which supposedly concentrated resources on the military.

To understand why North Korea fears U.S. aggressiveness consider the utter devastation caused mostly by the U.S. during the Korea War:

via Jeffrey Kaye – bigger

Imperial Japan occupied Korea from 1905 to 1945 and tried to assimilate it. A nominal communist resistance under Kim Il-sung and others fought against the Japanese occupation. After the Japanese WWII surrender in 1945 the U.S. controlled and occupied the mostly agricultural parts of Korea below the arbitrarily chosen 38th parallel line. The allied Soviet Union controlled the industrialized part above the line. They had agreed on a short trusteeship of a united and independent country. In the upcoming cold war the U.S. retracted on the agreement and in 1948 installed a South Korean proxy dictatorship under Syngman Rhee. This manifested an artificial border the Koreans had not asked for and did not want. The communists still commanded a strong and seasoned resistance movement in the south and hoped to reunite the country. The Korea War ensued. It utterly destroyed the country. All of Korea was severely effected but especially the industrialized north which lost about a third of its population and all of its reasonably well developed infrastructure – roads, factories and nearly all of its cities.

Every Korean family was effected. Ancestor worship is deeply embedded in the Korean psyche and its collectivist culture. No one has forgotten the near genocide and no one in Korea, north or south, wants to repeat the experience.

The country would reunite if China and the U.S. (and Russia) could agree upon its neutrality. That will not happen anytime soon. But the continued danger of an "accidental" war in Korea would be much diminished if the U.S. would accept the North Korean offer – an end to aggressive behavior like threatening maneuvers against the north, in exchange for a verified stop of the northern nuclear and missile programs. North Korea has to insist on this condition out of sheer economic necessity.

The U.S. government and the "western" media hide the rationality of the northern offer behind the propaganda phantasm of "the volatile and unpredictable regime".

But it is not Korea, neither north nor south, that is the "volatile and unpredictable" entity here.

Update:

Yesterday's Day of the Sun / Juche 105 (the 105th birth anniversary of Kim Il-sung) parade in Pyongyang went along without a hitch and without interference from the U.S. side.

Several new types of missile carrying Transporter-Erector-Launcher vehicles (TELs) were shown. The three hour TV transmission is available here. The military equipment display starts around 2h14m; the nuclear capable carriers are seen from 2h20m onward.

An early-impression remark from The Diplomat: North Korea's 2017 Military Parade Was a Big Deal. Here Are the Major Takeaways


Even though Pyongyang withheld from testing this weekend amid rumors of possible retaliation by the United States, North Korea is still looking to improve its missile know-how. Moreover, the long-dreaded ICBM flight test also might not be too far off now. Given the ever-growing number of TELs — both wheeled and tracked — North Korea may soon field nuclear forces amply large that a conventional U.S.-South Korea first strike may find it impossible to fully disarm Pyongyang of a nuclear retaliatory capability. That would give the North Korean regime what it’s always sought with its nuclear and ballistic missile program: an absolute guarantee against coercive removal.

The "absolute guarantee against coercive removal" would, in consequence, allow for much smaller conventional forces and less resources spend on the military. This again will enable faster economic development for the people in North Korea. The byongjin strategy will have reached its aim.

Comments

Jmiller,
Of course not since there is no “definitive” plan to solve the problem.
“As a first step, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) may suspend its nuclear and missile activities in exchange for the suspension of large-scale U.S.-Republic of Korea (ROK) military exercises,” Wang told a press conference on the sidelines of the annual session of the National People’s Congress.
They offer to suspend its nuclear program – what have US offered if not war? You can try spread disinformation here but no one here buys the semantic bs. You are in the wrong avenue.

Posted by: Anon1 | Apr 16 2017 19:49 utc | 201

@194 b
thanks for the link to the clinton gsax speech … i’ve never been able to find full transcripts of those … have you ?
i ocr’d the image at your link above …

So they want to keep North Korea within their orbit. They want to keep it predictable in their view. They have made some rather significant statements recently that they would very much like to see the North Koreans pull back from their nuclear program. Because I and everybody else — and I know you had Leon Panetta here this morning. You know, we all have told the Chinese if they continue to develop this missile program and they get an ICBM that has the capacity to carry a small nuclear weapon on it, which is what they’re aiming to do, we cannot abide that. Because they could not only do damage to our treaty allies, namely Japan and South Korea, but they could actually reach Hawaii and the west coast theoretically, and we’re going to ring China with missile defense. We’re going to put more of our fleet in the area.
So China, come on. You either control them or we’re going to have to defend against them.

… shows the continuity between obama-clinton/obama-trump, in my view.
one thing that i find even more interesting …

Well, I think their traditional policy has been close to what you’ve described. We don’t want a unified Korean peninsula, because if there were one South Korea would be dominant for the obvious economic and political reasons.

… clinton … gsax? … don’t want a unified peninsula because south korea … not china … would be dominant. and clinton’s drift seems to be that ‘they’ are trying to work with xi to keep the status quo.
the us does not want a stronger (south) korea, which is what would obtain if there were a unification.
why not? well, it was pointed out above that us-china trade is already twice us-korean trade. china – beijing – is closer to pyongyang than washington is to boston. a strong, unified korea would be wary of china, but certainly more enmeshed with china and its consumers than with the usa and its. samsung is down-market from apple, but they’ll make it up in volume.
it would seem to me that china would prefer – at least – a more independent korea, and that would require a stronger korea, and that would require a unified korea. so not only has china read north korea the riot act, but also south korea, in terms of its market.
can it be that the time for korean unification has come? that there will be a crumbling wall in korea, like the one that ran for the better part of my life between the two parts of germany? the us got the eu in return for german reunification … the tpp is dead.

Posted by: jfl | Apr 16 2017 21:04 utc | 202

that china-korea trade is already twice us-korean trade

Posted by: jfl | Apr 16 2017 21:05 utc | 203

i guess i should also say … for the longer part of my life (so far 🙂 … i only thought it was ‘better’ at the time. since then the scales have fallen from my eyes … on the way to damascus … everything’s changed …

Posted by: jfl | Apr 16 2017 21:13 utc | 204

The real threat of DPRK is that it mastered light isotope fusion. The initial three DPRK tests were all low yield tests. The low yield of 2006 and other tests were called duds. DPRK had access to lithium deuteride and by 2016 the UN accused DPRK of selling lithium isotopes. The DPRK likely tested other light nucleons with atomic mass less than 12 for use in nuclear weapons. Lithium deuteride sustains a reaction based on high energy photon chain reaction at light speed. Plutonium or Uranium chain reaction involve neutron or fractured nucleus with mass moving at high speed but below speed of light.The mass chain reaction does not proceed at light speed. The radiation thermal energy can blow reaction apart in mass chain reaction but the photon chain reaction is much faster. With Lithium deuteride the chain reaction speed is at light speed .So even in public records lithium deuteride and its analogs are essential for nuclear weapons. Both lithium 6 and lithium 7 are natural isotopes of lithium and not restricted.Deuterium is available in seawater. The need for energy to begin photon chain reaction was first supplied by fission reaction in US program. The US and USSR did over 2000 nuclear tests. It is entirely possible that other better substitutes were found for Lithium Deuteride with lower ignition energies than lithium deuteride. The low yield of DPRK first tests were likely searches for triggers or primers for analogs of lithium deuteride. The 2006 DPRK test was test for triggering Lithium Deuteride chain reaction with a yield substantially from primer. Interestingly DPRK is only country to claim in KCNA a break though in cold fusion in 2010 . With its limited stock of Plu 239 DPRK needed U238 and LiD or analog to provide energy. Fusion-boosted fission bombs can also be made immune to neutron radiation from nearby nuclear explosions, which can cause other designs to predetonate, blowing themselves apart without achieving a high yield. The combination of reduced weight in relation to yield and immunity to radiation has ensured that most modern nuclear weapons are fusion-boosted.Plus Lithium and it analogs produce gamma rays useful for EMP. Wikipedia says “The fusion reaction rate typically becomes significant at 20 to 30 megakelvins. This temperature is reached at very low efficiencies, when less than 1% of the fissile material has fissioned (corresponding to a yield in the range of hundreds of tons of TNT). ” Since implosion weapons can be designed that will achieve yields in this range even if neutrons are present at the moment of criticality, fusion boosting allows the manufacture of efficient weapons that are immune to predetonation. Elimination of this hazard is a very important advantage in using boosting. It appears that every weapon now in the U.S. arsenal is a boosted design. So while the world laughed at DPRK it was searching for low energy triggers for Lithium Deuteride or its analogs. It shows a mature long term approach to solving DPRK lack of fissile material. This suggests the Sixth DPRK nuclear test should be a photon chain reaction producing 150-250 KT. 38 North has noted the spoils pile for digging the sixth test is deeper and has capacity 250 KT. The basic raw materials lithium deuterium and U 238 are available to all poor countries. If DPRK has mastered a trigger for these available materials or their substitutes nukes might become available in mass to all poor countries. Knowledge would create power to transform common materials into 250 KT weapons with EMP burst. All this information is available studying wikipedia and open non classified sources .
With KT weapons available what poor country would chose to buy a 150 million US F35 fighter ? So you see the predicament of DPRK. Their knowledge if attacked will be difficult to suppress. If DPRK nuclear research succeeds then many poor countries will imitate their achievements and sales of US conventional weapons will suffer. US has countered DPRK nuclear success with economic sanctions to discourage imitators of DPRK program. The success of DPRK if duplicated will make globalist of resisting countries very difficult.

Posted by: Steven Mark Hayden | Apr 16 2017 22:25 utc | 205

‘“If China is not going to solve North Korea, we will.”
With this porky pie,
Trump becomes the 45th ‘bald faced liars’ elected by the murkkans.
And….
With the bombing of Syria, Yemen …
Trump joins the ‘prestigious’ ranks of the previous 44 war criminals in WH.
lots of murkkans , the Trumpsters, are crying foul,
They are ‘betrayed’ by Trump who now ‘surrender to the deep state’,
‘the neocons have finally gotten to Trump’, blah blah blah….
B.S. !
Astute obsevers like Vltchek, Engdahl, Draistser ..reminded murkkans about the exercise in futility in the ‘election circus’ long ago.
Mathematically,
Ian Fleming’s fundamental law of probability practically gaurantees that the 45th potus would be same as the old boss,
MICC front man who speaks with forked tongue.
As the pathetic hack Fareed Zakaria of Times magazine would gush after the Syria bombing,
With this act, Trump has just become potus
He didnt know how right he’s,
hehehehe

Posted by: denk | Apr 17 2017 2:41 utc | 206

previous threads on NK never exceeded 100 comments,
now its over 200.
trump power ?
hhhhhh

Posted by: denk | Apr 17 2017 3:01 utc | 207

US to make a big show of diplomacy and so forth to show they have tried everything and then hit NK ? According to Sputnik, there is A Russian, and a Chinese ship shadowing the strike group that is heading for Korea. Looks like everything still brewing.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-missile-idUSKBN17H0NL
Pence, whose father served in the 1950-53 Korean War, said the United States would stand by its “iron-clad alliance” with South Korea and was seeking peace through strength.
“All options are on the table to achieve the objectives and ensure the stability of the people of this country,” he said, adding that U.S. President Donald Trump has made clear he won’t talk about specific military tactics.
“There was a period of strategic patience but the era of strategic patience is over,” Pence told reporters.

Posted by: Peter AU | Apr 17 2017 4:00 utc | 208

Peter AU
This just shows how stupid South koreans are playing along with something that could cause thousands of deaths, SK is basically inviting a war against their own people, not only through an attack on the north, but that the north itself would attack the south in case of an attack by the US. Whats wrong with these people?

Posted by: Anon1 | Apr 17 2017 7:55 utc | 209

There is rumours that US attacked NK with cyberwarfare and thats why the recent test failed. What do you guys think?

Posted by: Anon1 | Apr 17 2017 11:39 utc | 210

@ Posted by: Anon1 | Apr 17, 2017 7:39:54 AM | 210
Its sustained Psyops, demonization & propaganda. Maybe one of the high security cleared scientists hooked his personal laptop to the internet by insecure Wi-Fi to download cat videos over noodles on his lunch break and then the secure air-gapped isolated network became infected by the NSA. Its crap for the sheeple.
Simply look into the history of the development of the V2 Rocket program, by nazi Germany at Peenemunde. Endless failure after failure, but every one became an incremental lesson learned, until almost when the program was to be scaled down, success, failure, success, success. The highest priority of the State with the finest German engineers and scientists available. And we stole it all, including the research, materials and scientists themselves, to ultimately develop our ICBMs, for the nuke warheads. NK is doin’ it on their own, with far fewer resources, and every ‘mistake’ is a lesson learned … how many nuclear weapons tests by the ‘west’ worldwide before they switched to advanced mainframe super-computer farms.
We were so smart during the space race, the best and brightest with the ‘Right Stuff’, we thought it was A-Ok to pump a crew capsule full of flammable, explosive, 100% Oxygen, when it was cram packed with combustibles … and then lock three astronauts inside … mistake made … lesson learned …

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 17 2017 12:00 utc | 211

This is “News Analysis” by the paper of the record …
NYT: A ‘Cuban Missile Crisis in Slow Motion’ in North Korea
By DAVID E. SANGER and WILLIAM J. BROADAPRIL 16, 2017

While all historical analogies are necessarily imprecise — for starters, President John F. Kennedy dealt with the Soviets and Fidel Castro in a perilous 13 days in 1962, while the roots of the Korean crisis go back a quarter-century — one parallel shines through.

Ah. that pesky thing which once was called Korea War? Never happened of course – or irrelevant. Because who would have such a long memory … we certainly don’t.

Posted by: b | Apr 17 2017 14:24 utc | 212

Posted by: b | Apr 17, 2017 10:24:26 AM | 212
Well, they don’t mention that Pence has just pressured South Korea to accept the THAAD either – outside of elections – with China stronly opposed.
Trump seems to think that pressuring China with a trade war will be enough.

Posted by: somebody | Apr 17 2017 14:52 utc | 213

Maybe when the world, Nations & colonies, and ‘spheres of influence’ were being carved out, in November 1943, at the Cairo Conference ?
Franklin Roosevelt, Winston Churchill and Chiang Kai-shek met at the Cairo Conference to discuss what should happen to Japan’s colonies, and agreed that Japan should lose all the territories it had conquered by force. In the declaration after this conference, Korea was mentioned for the first time. The three powers declared that they were, “mindful of the enslavement of the people of Korea, … determined that in due course Korea shall become free and independent.”
Or 8 September 1945 ?
When US troops were landed at Inchon on the Korean peninsula, under Lieutenant General John R. Hodge, appointed by General Douglas MacArthur to ‘administer’ Korean affairs. The Provisional Government of the Republic of Korea, which had operated from China, sent a delegation with three interpreters to Hodge, but he refused to meet with them. Likewise, Hodge refused to recognize the newly formed People’s Republic of Korea and its People’s Committees, and outlawed it on 12 December.
Or in September 1946 ?
When thousands of laborers and peasants rose up against the US military government, said uprising was quickly defeated …
All long before the start of the Korean War in 1950 …

Division of Korea at the end of WWII

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 17 2017 14:56 utc | 214

Outraged @214–
For most of the Outlaw US Empire’s citizenry, none of those events ever happened as they all know the Korean War was fought cleanly through M*A*S*H.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 17 2017 15:25 utc | 215

@ Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 17, 2017 11:25:13 AM | 215
When in a recreational ‘quiet room’ whilst being treated one time not long ago now, with M*A*S*H playing on the big screen, a fellow vet (Not, Korean War)(Also before my time) sincerely & earnestly declared, M*A*S*H was full of ‘Lessons for living your Life‘. Alas, had to clean-up and then go brew another coffee, as had spewed mine across the table, in response … ‘twould appear you’re correct 🙁

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 17 2017 15:45 utc | 216

Posted by: jfl | Apr 16, 2017 5:04:03 PM | 202
You have to look into the attachement part of the wikileaks documents and you get the full speech.
You misunderstand that Clinton quote, the ‘we’ is putting herself into the shoes of China, so that is what she thinks China’s position is.
There is some funny stuff in the speech, too, about Chinese leaders’ children going to US universities and Xi having lived with a family in Iowa.

Posted by: somebody | Apr 17 2017 16:51 utc | 217

@217 sb
got ’em. thanks.

Posted by: jfl | Apr 17 2017 19:15 utc | 218

@217 sb
yes, you’re right. it seems she was acting the part of the chinese with that ‘we’. but in that case was she correct? would the chinese oppose the unification of korea? ‘whose side’ are the koreans really on? well, it’s the people versus their government, isn’t it?

Posted by: jfl | Apr 17 2017 21:05 utc | 219

Interesting bits from Ankit Panda of The Diplomat:
Is North Korea Working Toward a ‘Carrier-Killer’ Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile?
Say hello to the KN-17.

And the USS Carl Vinson is still nowhere near Korea – North or South. It’t heading somewhere to the Western North Pacific, so ‘Asia’ is about as precise as you could get. And that won’t be until the 25th of April.
The ‘three carriers heading to Korea’ is also BS hyped up by the MSM (and allowed to spread by the White House). The Reagan is under repairs in Japan and won’t even be at sea until the beginning of June. The Nimitz is eventually heading to the west Pacific to replace the Vinson, not join it.
Nothing to see here: US carrier still thousands of miles from Korea
I fell for it just like everyone else. I was under the impression that the Vinson would be off the coast in time for last weekend’s lauch and test, ready to start WWIII.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Apr 18 2017 5:46 utc | 220

Steven Mark Hayden who are you and why are you fishing for Krakens? Just call if you can 🙁
On a much nicer note:
“If any time is rum time then now time is rum time!” 😀 (that sounds like some kind of proverb lol).

Posted by: Outsider | Apr 18 2017 5:57 utc | 221

@220 pwiv,
i was going by south front’s us carrier strike groups locations map – april 14, although they have been wrong before. the icons and the little breadcrumb trails and colored circles look so precise … thus accurate. this one looks fishy though, the last week’s the tell.
it would be better if they just admitted they didn’t know.

Posted by: jfl | Apr 18 2017 6:25 utc | 222

Steven Mark Hayden I should I add that I was asking “who are you” out of worried curiosity but when reading it later it sounds far too much like some stereotypical English football hooligan asking for a fight, and that’s certainly not my intention!
Considering changing my name to “Worried Little Fish” 🙂

Posted by: Outsider | Apr 18 2017 7:38 utc | 223

@223 os
i think that smh has copied a piece of russian ‘intelligence’. i’m guessing russian because of my perception of missing articles. i’m surely no authority on russian, the only thing i’ve noticed about russians speaking english is that they often drop articles, so this is just an intuition on my part, but it’s hard for me to imagine someone named Steven Mark Hayden dropping all those articles. of course his name may not be smh, and he may be russian or some other native language speaker who drops english articles as well.
anyway, the information on ‘boosted’ fission bombs and the assertion, if true, that ‘It appears that every weapon now in the U.S. arsenal is a boosted design.’ seems to take the description out of the kraken realm.

Posted by: jfl | Apr 18 2017 8:03 utc | 224

jfl: yes thank you I didn’t catch that and it makes sense since Russian doesn’t use articles —the first point made in a few pages on Russian grammar in the tiny pocket dictionary I’ve got …all very much above my level of looking up random words every other week X)
I did a “full name only” search right now and it looks like the name is that of a doctor in Alabama (that connection to Alabama could be the only reason why the name was chosen) who is or was involved in some lawsuit, I stopped there.

Posted by: Outsider | Apr 18 2017 18:51 utc | 225

jfl@222 – SouthFront’s strike group locations from Stratfor are (or were) accurate at some point in time in a most general sense. But specific tasking (like N. Korea) are always in flux by the Navy. “Start moving that general direction until we change our mind” is more like it.
There is no way StratFor is privy to specific, real-time positioning orders, and actual destinations are a guess. The guesses can be quite good if the destination is a well-known one like the Persian Gulf or a well-publicized large naval exercise. But being ready to do something in North Korea could just mean bobbing around the Yellow Sea, East China Sea or the Sea of Japan. ‘Close’ is within a few hundred miles for a carrier strike group. The Vinson had been sailing from Japan to what looks like the Malacca Straits in an Australian exercise, and was then given some kind of orders to head back towards Korea. StratFor’s ‘present’ location pin marker showing it entering the Yellow Sea on the 14th is their guess at what that meant unless someone actually saw it there.
Outraged Re: The North Koreans and Lithium Deuteride. The Koreans would have been working on this for decades. There’s nothing special about Lithium Deuteride (HLi) or producing what you need for the fusion part of a thermonuclear (hydrogen) bomb. The hard part is making compact fission trigger and bomb internals to shower the HLi with enough neutrons to trigger the fusion reaction. If you didn’t use a subsequent fission stage, you would have what is essentially a two-stage fission-fusion neutron bomb.
If you want more destructive power (vs. radiation) then you add a third fission stage. That used to be plutonium, but can be depleted uranium with the right design. The yield of the weapon only depends on how much HLi you can trigger into fusion and how much depleted uranium you have and want to stuff in the bomb. Depleted uranium allows a very cheap large-yield (but heavy) bomb if you wanted. There is no need to test megaton versions, though. If you can start and sustain a chain reaction in any kind of HLi fusion part, than you can go as big as you want later.
Building fission triggers and the rest of the bomb to produce fusion reliably is the tricky part. The US has no idea how far along North Korea is with that development, but they’ve been at it a while. It’s certainly not beyond their technical means. The fact that they have not tested a large-yield version is little evidence of whether they have a proper three-stage bomb. We know they have working fission triggers and we know they have Lithium Deuteride. It’s only a matter of time if they’re not there already. And once they’re ‘there’, they have a neutron bomb – very effective against… oh, carrier groups, for instance. Making a small and light enough warhead for a ballistic missile is the hard part, but that’s no a limitation for nuclear-tipped torpedoes or air-dropped munitions.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Apr 18 2017 19:35 utc | 226

Paveway jfl
I see at the US DoD site that the Carl Vinson was ordered to report on Station in the western pacific. Article goes on to say it recently took part in a number of exercises with SK and Japan.
Now, according to Sputnik, the strike group has been spotted near Indonesia?
I am starting to think Trump, MacMaster/Mattis ect may have been planning something big for NK but have been talked out of it? Or just bluffing all along?

Posted by: Peter AU | Apr 18 2017 19:44 utc | 227

@227 According to this the carrier (very powerful) and the submarines (very very powerful) aren’t in a hurry to get to Korea.
“If traveling at maximum speed, which the Navy lists at “34.5+ mph,” it would take the carrier, two destroyers and a cruiser roughly four to five days to reach the peninsula from Indonesia’s Sunda Strait.”
https://www.stripes.com/news/carl-vinson-strike-group-seen-near-indonesia-not-the-korean-peninsula-1.464071#.WPZvX9LytGM

Posted by: dh | Apr 18 2017 20:05 utc | 228

The hands on military not wanting to get into a shooting war initiated by the desk warriors? I wonder if somebody said – take a cruise boys while we talk the boss out of this?

Posted by: Peter AU | Apr 18 2017 20:17 utc | 229

I seem to recall reports about Russian and Chinese ships shadowing the armada. I guess everybody knew where it was except Joe Public.

Posted by: dh | Apr 18 2017 20:32 utc | 230

Bloomberg in trying to twist the propaganda further has actually advanced the truth by saying “Russia State TV Says Trump is More Dangerous Than Kim Jong-In,” https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-17/russia-warns-u-s-not-to-use-force-unilaterally-against-n-korea
There’re some rather pathetically funny lines within the article that has Bloomberg’s writers throwing as much mud as they can find in hopes that some sticks.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 18 2017 22:42 utc | 231

Peter AU@229 – “…The hands on military not wanting to get into a shooting war initiated by the desk warriors? I wonder if somebody said – take a cruise boys while we talk the boss out of this?…”
Not likely these days, Peter. Trump had a reason to put Mattis in as U.S. Sec of Defense. Psychopaths don’t what the peons questioning their crazy orders or acting on their own. It’s clear now that Mattis was put in that position for one reason: to blindly obey orders and to ensure the U.S. military blindly obeys them.
This was the exact situation more rational U.S. leaders were trying to prevent by making laws to prohibit anyone in the military from taking the civilian Sec. of Defense position until years after leaving the military. There were suppose to be layers of civilians making sure the U.S. military was only used for constitutional, rational purposes. Making an exception for Mattis effectively removed that protection.
Now, we essentially have the U.S. military acting directly on the orders of the President without consent of Congress (in practice) or any civilian oversight or input. Mattis is a ‘civilian’ in name only. He’s the obedient, unquestioning military personified, through and through, that has no concept of anything he’s suppose to be supporting and protecting in the U.S. Constitution.
Mattis’ job is to support and protect the U.S. government deep state. The exact kind of person a dictator or tyrant would want if they ever feared having to use U.S. troops against American citizens. I don’t care about Trump. I’m far more worried about who the deep state wants to replace him. Pence is bad enough, but he may be ‘removed’ from consideration if they have someone else.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Apr 18 2017 23:36 utc | 232

@226 pwiv
there’s an interesting rundown of fusion bomb technology at 38 North Can North Korea Build the H-Bomb?, referenced in the smh post.
@232
i agree. there’s been a ‘silent’ coup in the usofa. the military are in control of themselves. tee-rump’s plan is to let them go and then blame them for the results, same as his plan in every other sphere. his mission is to cash in chips each step of the way and, should it seem possible, rinse and repeat in 2020. if not, go home, sleep well, enjoy life until the end.

Posted by: jfl | Apr 19 2017 0:41 utc | 233

@233 It’s part of MAGA. Trump can only see greatness in terms of military supremacy. Also he probably likes hanging out with tough guys.
Mattis was just in Israel btw. McMaster has been there many times. He has lots of friends there.

Posted by: dh | Apr 19 2017 1:12 utc | 234

So, Bluff & bluster re Shayrat airbase, same for MOAB, same for M61 drop, same for NK ‘Strategic patience is over’. There is a firm pattern forming here. Paper tiger with paper teeth, indeed.
Well, Sputnik has come out of this even less credible and reliable then in the past … in future suggest important reports by Sputnik be taken with a grain of salt until corroborated.
Also noticed over the last week, MSM has progressively ceased referring to RT, Russia Today, now using euphemisms such as Kremlin State Media, Kremlin Media, Kremlin news agency. This is yet another uptick in the Cold War 2.0 Psyop narrative and further indication of further censorship of non MSM media/sources/alternatives to come. ProPornOt on the rise.
@ PavewayIV
Ah, mistakenly confusing me with someone else … Outsider … 😉

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 19 2017 2:39 utc | 235

Thia is the write up at official US gov DOD site
https://www.defense.gov/News/Article/Article/1146225/carl-vinson-strike-group-departs-singapore-for-western-pacific/
USS CARL VINSON AT SEA, April 10, 2017 — Navy Adm. Harry B. Harris Jr., commander of U.S. Pacific Command, yesterday directed the Carl Vinson Strike Group to sail north and report on station in the Western Pacific Ocean after departing Singapore April 8.
The Carl Vinson Strike Group, including the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson, embarked Carrier Air Wing 2, guided missile destroyers USS Wayne E. Meyer and USS Michael Murphy, and guided missile cruiser USS Lake Champlain, will operate in the Western Pacific rather than executing previously planned port visits to Australia….
????

Posted by: Peter AU | Apr 19 2017 3:34 utc | 236

Outraged@235 – Sorry, apologies to you and Outsider both. Please don’t read anything into that!
jfl@233 – Thanks – interesting article. The author’s name, Jefferey Lewis, sounded vaguely familiar. I was surprised to find that he is none other than the familiar (to me) @ArmsControlWonk on Twitter. This particular tweet and replies from today is amusing:
https://twitter.com/ArmsControlWonk/status/854378771264061441

Posted by: PavewayIV | Apr 19 2017 4:48 utc | 237

Peter AU@236 Hate to keep linking Twitter, but this tweet and replies gives you an idea of effect (intentional or not):
https://twitter.com/annafifield/status/854535713773076481
Funniest response so far about why the public was apparently misled:
“Im sorry but that defeats the purpose of a carrier strike group. The element of surprise”
Funny because I’m still not sure if he’s sincere or of that was just sarcasm. It’s Twitter – too close to call.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Apr 19 2017 5:00 utc | 238

Paveway 238
Something odd here. It’s one thing when just media lead people astray – just the norm, but when US DOD, and all the US military sites say the Carl Vinson strike group is heading north to the western pacific, then you have to wonder what is going on.
Harris is the clown in charge of this region for the self proclaimed sheriff, and the DOD site states he ordered the strike force to report on station in the western pacific.
If this was just a giant hoax by both white house and US military, what are the advantages for them? If Trump was bluffing from the start, the strike group would sail north and have a splash around somewhere off japan for awhile.
Something odd here, like somebody changed their mind, perhaps under pressure from China/Russia. Sumatra is not far from Singapore, so my guess is the strike group started heading to Korea, then at some point turned back.

Posted by: Peter AU | Apr 19 2017 5:33 utc | 239

Paveway
Not sure if the Tillerson/Putin meeting had anything to do with it, but this is what Alexander Mercouris had to say about the meeting
“The sensitivity of this issue – and the possibly fraught nature of this meeting, which may have been a great deal less easy than some media reports have been suggesting – is indicated by a very remarkable thing. This is that the Kremlin has failed to publish a summary of the meeting on its website.”
Wonder if Putin very quietly in a closed room, set out some red lines for Tillerson?
Can’t link the Duran article here but I have found Mercouris take on things worth reading.

Posted by: Peter AU | Apr 19 2017 5:54 utc | 240

And then there is this from Sputnik…
“A US supercarrier deployed to deter North Korea did not reach the Sea of Japan reportedly because White House and Pentagon failed to communicate effectively.” ????
Pentagon Knew exactly what the communications were because they posted the orders on the DoD website.
I recall thirty something Tomahawks did not arrive on target and nobody knows what happened to them…

Posted by: Peter AU | Apr 19 2017 6:49 utc | 241

@Peter AU
Ah come on, throughout history lots of ships and even entire fleets have gone missing on the vast oceans…
😉
But yes, you may be right that ‘someone’ recommended the Vinson to go on a little cruise, rather than straight to Korea where a Bay of Tonkin replay may have awaited. We’ll probably never know. Paveway’s comments on Mattis are very interesting, but they don’t make such a scenario impossible.
Tillerson’s visit to Russia as his ‘Walk to Canossa’? Interesting idea.
A reminder:
Kerry made a surprise visit to Russia in May 2015. Not much was publicly said about the talks (also with first Lavrov, then Putin), but Kerry’s face in the photos pretty much said it all. In my understanding, they sealed the Iran deal during that visit, with Kerry accepting Syria to be in Russia’s sphere of influence in exchange, i.e. dropping the ‘Assad must go’ thing and refraining from intervention against him.
That was basically the end of American unilateralism. On Sept. 28th, the new multilateral era was officially proclaimed by Putin & Xi at the UNGA.
So it would have taken the new administration three months to accept that. Possible…
What I don’t (yet) see is an immediate Russian pressure/ leverage. Apart from the obvious of course: Iran joining the SCO, and consolidation of the bloc with its own financial system, leading to a crash of the western economy(ies).

Posted by: smuks | Apr 19 2017 13:00 utc | 242

240
I assume simply that they didnt agree and some kind of warning so thats why they quickly moved to threat North Korea instead where China hasnt given the same kind of warning apparently.
Why cant you link to Duran btw?

Posted by: Anon1 | Apr 19 2017 13:35 utc | 243

PavewayIV says:
Now, we essentially have the U.S. military acting directly on the orders of the President without consent of Congress (in practice) or any civilian oversight or input
so, in hindsight, was that little military maneuver (from about the 2:00 to 3:00 or so mark)we saw during Trump’s inaugural speech some kind of deep state metaphor, or just some kind of protocolic fuck up? ya have any poop on that, ’cause i never heard any explanation?

Posted by: john | Apr 19 2017 15:50 utc | 244

Korea expert Bruce Cumings whose works I cited earlier wrote an article back on 23 March 2017 that was published by The Nation, https://www.thenation.com/article/this-is-whats-really-behind-north-koreas-nuclear-provocations/ that I was just made aware of by reading Oliver Stone’s recent Facebook essay that was mirrored by The Duran and is well worth reading as are his linked sources, http://theduran.com/oliver-stone-blasts-president-trump-hes-taken-off-handcuffs-on-war-machine-and-turned-it-over-to-his-glorified-generals/

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 20 2017 18:21 utc | 245

Absolutely no offense taken however I will insist on reading everything nice into it 😀
And again a thank you to all, there is never any shortage of things to think about (and/or reconsider) after reading comments here, if only each day had 48 hours then maybe I could keep up 🙂

Posted by: Outsider | Apr 24 2017 21:38 utc | 246