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March 14, 2017
The Democrats Anti-Russia Campaign Falls Apart (Updated)

UPDATED below

A while ago Matt Tabbi in Rolling Stone warned: Why the Russia Story Is a Minefield for Democrats and the Media:

If we engage in Times-style gilding of every lily the leakers throw our way, and in doing so build up a fever of expectations for a bombshell reveal, but there turns out to be no conspiracy – Trump will be pre-inoculated against all criticism for the foreseeable future.

Sanity is finally winning over. After raising all kinds of shambolic rumors about "Russian interference" the "western" intelligence agencies are walking back their previous outrageous claims:

  • Former DNI James Clapper admits (vid) that he has zero evidence for any Trump-Russia collusion;
  • The British Foreign Secretary now says there is "no evidence" of any Russian interference with British democracy;
  • The German secret services have no proof (in German) for any Russian disinformation campaign.

There is no evidence for any Russian interference in the U.S., or any other, election. No evidence has been show, despite many claims, that Russia or its proxies hacked John Podesta's emails or the DNC or collaborated with Wikileaks.

Even the Democrats now concede that the whole mountain of bullshit their anti-Trump and anti-Russian campaign created stinks to high heaven:

[S]ome Democrats on the Intelligence Committee now quietly admit, after several briefings and preliminary inquiries, they don’t expect to find evidence of active, informed collusion between the Trump campaign and known Russian intelligence operatives, though investigators have only just begun reviewing raw intelligence. Among the Intelligence Committee’s rank and file, there’s a tangible frustration over what one official called “wildly inflated” expectations surrounding the panel’s fledgling investigation.

Ardent Russia critics like Masha Geesen and former ambassador Michael McFaul now warn of irreparable damage the irrational anti-Russian campaign may cause. A New York Times opinion piece points out that the reignited anti-Russian attitude goes back to the 19th century and was as wrong then as it is now. Claims that meetings between the incoming Trump administration and the Russian ambassador were nefarious are hard to hold up when members of the Clinton campaign also met him. Trump's National Security Advisor Flynn was accused of colluding with Russia when in fact he was paid by Turkey to lobby for Erdogan.

The disinformation campaign against Russia is falling apart for lack of any evidence. The media who ardently supported it have lost trust. As they obviously lied about Russia how much truth are they telling on other issue?

Tabbi's warning was late. The damage is done. "Western" relations with Russia have been hurt. But also hurt are the reputations of the media and of the Democratic party. Trump though has been justified with his rejection of that campaign. He now is, as Tabbi predicted, "pre-inoculated" against other accusations – at least with his followers and those sitting on the fence. Trump has now the space to develop his original grand strategic idea of seeking amiable relations with Russia before getting embroiled in any other international dispute. Those relations are now developing on the ground in Syria where cooperation between Russian and U.S. troops intensifies:

Moscow, Pentagon spokesman Jeff Davis added, has "kept us abreast of their operations" in Manbij, ..

Signs are that there is way more of that then the Pentagon admits. There have been several meetings at the highest levels of Russian and U.S. military and whoever commands U.S. forces in Syria will surely have a direct line to the Russian ground commander to coordinate their moves.

The Democrats failed in their anti-Trump, anti-Russia campaign.

UPDATE:

The belligerent dude Hillary Clinton's wanted as CIA boss now admits that the British Steele dossier is total bullshit. (We said so months ago.)

Clinton Ally Says Smoke, But No Fire: No Russia-Trump Collusion

Morell, who was in line to become CIA director if Clinton won, said he had seen no evidence that Trump associates cooperated with Russians.

Morell said he had learned that the former officer, Christopher Steele, paid his key Russian sources, and interviewed them through intermediaries.

"On the question of the Trump campaign conspiring with the Russians here, there is smoke, but there is no fire, at all," Morell said at an event sponsored by the Cipher Brief, an intelligence web site.

"There's no little campfire, there's no little candle, there's no spark. And there's a lot of people looking for it."

The Daily Beast, one of the sites that intensively peddled the false anti-Trump/anti-Russia claims, is now warning (somewhat) against doing such:

Trump’s critics last year were horrified at the rise of “fake news” and the specter of a politics shaped by alternative facts, predominantly on the right. They need to be careful now not to succumb to the same delusional temptations as their political adversaries, and not to sink into a filter bubble which, after all, draws its strength not from conservative or progressive politics but from human nature.

Senator John McCain explained in Congress what he means when he accuses someone of "working for Putin":

Joe Gould @reporterjoe

.@RandPauI just blocked @SenJohnMcCain's UC request to add Montenegro to NATO & exited. McCain: "The sen from Ky is now working for Putin."

You see, anyone disagreeing with the neoconservative John McCain is by definition now "working for Putin". It is no wonder then that Washington DC is full of Russian agents …

A significant part of the electorate, the "millenials", are not as dump as the politicians believe. They wonder what all the fuzz is about:

Amid an avalanche of news raising alarm about Russian meddling in the U.S. election and ties between President Donald Trump’s administration and Moscow, many younger voters are questioning how big a threat the former Cold War foe really is.

Interviews with more than 30 voters across the country show a major generational gap when it comes to views of Russia. According to younger voters, the view of Russia as an automatic threat that they hear from lawmakers like Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., is an outdated relic of the Cold War.

In interviews with McClatchy, many young adults said news accounts of U.S.-Russian relations in 2017, full of spies and secretive meetings with ambassadors, seemed like a Cold War thriller with no connection to modern reality.

End-Update

Comments

“Based on the information available to us, we see no indications that Trump Tower was the subject of surveillance by any element of the United States government either before or after Election Day 2016,” the chairman and ranking member of the Senate Intelligence Committee just said.
That statement does not say that there was no surveillance of Trump Tower. If, for example, Trump Tower was surveilled by GCHQ, the British equivalent of NSA which works closely with it, as Judge Napolitano just said he had been told by three intelligence expers, the senators’ statement would still be true.
Why did GCHQ chief Robert Hannigan resign so suddenly and mysteriously on Jan. 23, 2017? GCHQ chief Robert Hannigan quits.

Posted by: lysias | Mar 16 2017 21:14 utc | 101

Posted by: SmoothieX12 | Mar 16, 2017 1:37:38 PM | 95
His service was honorable by all accounts … yet prostituted subsequent conduct has been utterly without Honor or Integrity, purely in the service of self-aggrandizement and mammon, with the former conduct outweighed on the ‘Scales‘, by the latter …
Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Mar 16, 2017 2:22:58 PM | 96
Posted by: lysias | Mar 16, 2017 3:19:07 PM | 97
Miller along with the ‘Usual Suspects‘ are ‘Directors’ of various grades/status on The Atlantic Council … don’t ya know.

You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Posted by: SmoothieX12 | Mar 16, 2017 4:30:48 PM | 100
Indeed.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.
If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.
If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
– Sun Tzu, The Art of War

@ Posted by: lysias | Mar 16, 2017 5:14:43 PM | 101
Re carefully crafted ‘Statement‘, spot on.
Also means it is beyond the powers of Domestic Law & Congress to investigate nor ever compel testimony, ie a foreign nation’s intelligence service & a matter of ‘their’, ‘National Security’. Hence why it is done and not an isolated case 😉

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 17 2017 6:21 utc | 102

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer yesterday referred to the GCHQ accusation: Washington Post: Sean Spicer just suggested that Obama used British intelligence to spy on Trump. Not so much.:

In his daily press briefing, White House press secretary Sean Spicer repeated a claim that President Barack Obama had used British spies to surveil President Trump.

The last words of that headline, “Not so much”, are the Washington Post’s editorializing, not anything Spicer said.

Posted by: lysias | Mar 17 2017 13:45 utc | 103

The White House just apologized for what Spicer said about Brit intelligence. White House Makes Formal Apology To Britain Over Spying Accusation. This apology may just as well have been issued for diplomatic reasons and to preserve intelligence cooperation as because the GCHQ allegation is false.

Posted by: lysias | Mar 17 2017 13:47 utc | 104

Susan Sunflower 72
I’m not sure the pentagon really thwarted Obama’s “dreams of military intervention.” But they were resistant even as portrayed in the MSM. In TIME, it was Hillary and Kerry who were portrayed as interventionists with Gates as reluctant and Obama on the fence whether it was Libya or Iran. And it was the JCS who joined with Kucinich to prevent the no fly/regime change scheme by making contact with Gaddhafi’s sons. In the end, the pentagon “did” Libya. But as far as boots on the ground? Why use them and draw public US ire when you can use the jihadi proxies supplied by Saudi/Qatari and others?

Posted by: Curtis | Mar 17 2017 15:25 utc | 105

lysias | Mar 16, 2017 5:14:43 PM | 101
Another fake denial.

“Based on the information available to us, we see no indications that Trump Tower was the subject of surveillance by any element of the United States government either before or after Election Day 2016,” the chairman and ranking member of the Senate Intelligence Committee just said.

Far more likely to be a private contractor.
When I read “… we see no indications that Trump Tower was the subject of surveillance by anybody either before or after Election Day 2016,” then I’ll start to believe it.
Meanwhile:

A former chief in Britain’s intelligence agency GCHQ has said the allegations that it installed hacking equipment on behalf of Barack Obama in the offices of Donald Trump ahead of the US presidential election are part of a “fake news campaign.”

Another non-denial denial – I believe there is no need to install equipment to bug a building and since when is bugging a building hacking? So, GCHQ remotely bugged Trump’s offices.

Posted by: Ghostship | Mar 17 2017 15:34 utc | 106

SmoothieX12 79
Thanks for the input. It’s amazing who can get a book pushed to the press and so quickly. A friend of a friend mentioned he listens to Levin the other day. I guess he meant Mark Levin who does talk radio and writes books. The pro-GOP flav-r-aid drinkers love him but I looked at the negative reviews at Amazon and the flaws are revealed. Hacks on both sides and a pox on all their houses!

Posted by: Curtis | Mar 17 2017 15:34 utc | 107

Now GCHQ has issued a “denial”:

“Recent allegations made by media commentator Judge Andrew Napolitano about GCHQ being asked to conduct ‘wire tapping’ against the then president-elect are nonsense,” the agency said in a statement. “They are utterly ridiculous and should be ignored.”

So, parsing the statement we can arrive at two conclusions:
1. Either they were ordered or they volunteered to conduct surveillance against Trump.
2. The reason that the claim is so ridiculous is that wire tapping is so twentieth century, don’t the public realize there’s no need to install wire taps any more.

Posted by: Ghostship | Mar 17 2017 16:42 utc | 108

file under: Everything old is new again.
I listened to a Batchelor segment on Ramparts magazine which mentioned the Rampart blockbuster on CIA infiltration of the NSA (National Students Association) which was undertaken to “counteract” alleged communist infiltration of “our society” and promote
“American values” … Very much the “menace” that Nance alleged and countermeasures that are being proposed (and recently, irrc, enacted in the UK) to counter … to protect the population from “fake news” (the internet war on Radical Islamism now being in second place or declared a failure).
Trump apparently is unable or unwilling to let the “Obama spied on me” matter drop (likely unwisely regardless of the ultimate-supreme-truth-of-the-hollowness-of-any-denial)
Ramparts: NSA and the CIA.
also from the Guardian, and not meant as Sanders Boosting, but apparently he’s polling as the most popular politician in the country and, they noticed that the Democrats still want nothing to do with him Guardian. oh, and TMZ blurbed Hillary and Huma shopping at Bloomingdales like BFF’s of old with mention of a rumored H. Clinton run for mayor … many things old are likely rancid and bad for your health …

Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Mar 17 2017 17:46 utc | 109

b writes

Trump has now the space to develop his original grand strategic idea of seeking amiable relations with Russia before getting embroiled in any other international dispute. Those relations are now developing on the ground in Syria where cooperation between Russian and U.S. troops intensifies

Trump is not now and not ever going to be the savior you are pining for. There will be no detente or cooperation with Russia in Syria. Do you actually pay attention to what his administration is up to and who is calling the shots? Hint: also look beyond the Syria/Russia issue to get a flavor of what Trump and the gang are all about.

Posted by: Temporarily Sane | Mar 17 2017 18:59 utc | 110

So funny. Trump and Tillerson go to the brink with North Korea and it barely gets noticed here. That’s how bad Islamophobia and Putin worship can mess you up.

Posted by: Louis Proyect | Mar 17 2017 19:36 utc | 111

It was reported that the Trump White House had apologized to the Brits for Spicer’s statement yesterday.
They’re now saying they did not apologize, only said they would not repeat the statement about GCHQ.
And it looks like Trump himself, in his news conference with Merkel, has essentially just repeated the charge. Trump Responds To Obama Wiretap Question: “At Least Merkel And I Have Something In Common”:

Following today’s latest developments over Trump’s allegations that the UK’s GCHQ may or may not have helped Obama to wiretap the Trump Tower, an allegation which the infuriated British Spy Agency called “utterly ridiculous” and prompted it to demand an apology from the White House, a German reporter asked Trump for his current opinion on whether Obama had indeed wiretapped Trump. The president’s response: he gestured to Angela Merkel and said “on wiretapping by this past administration, at least we have something in common.”

Posted by: lysias | Mar 17 2017 19:39 utc | 112

Morons in the Democratic party never stops?
Dem Rep Moulton Warns of Possible Nuclear War With Russia
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/03/17/dem-rep-moulton-warns-of-possible-nuclear-war-with-russia/

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 17 2017 22:18 utc | 113

I caught 2 minutes of Maddow last night … she was “worrying” broadly is Democrats would be able to recognize and thwart or counteract Russian interference in the NEXT elections …. oh worry worry worry …. she had someone on from HRC’s campaign. I changed the channel when he started talking about “when and how they knew they were being meddled with” … which amounted to the same hack discovered — omg — when there was first dump of purloined e-mails … no shit sherlock … (I still wonder why John Podesta had those two years-old (8 and 5 years old iirc) reports on the Clinton Foundation on/in his DNC email)

Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Mar 17 2017 23:23 utc | 114

@ Susan Sunflower who wrote about how the Hitlerian drum beat of propaganda keeps beating
This is text book brainwashing. Keep telling the same lies, with flourish (looking at the next (s)election)) and soon all heads are nodding and will continue to do so until told otherwise….how long has it been since the (s)election?….close to 4 months now and I am seeing the effect on the populace…….TV is evil as a one way stream of the world according to the God of Mammon.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 18 2017 2:07 utc | 115

Posted by: lysias | Mar 17, 2017 3:39:12 PM | 112
Interesting…
Last night BBC, Zio-Jazeera, NHK(japan), France 24, and DW all covered the Merkel-Trump meeting and emphasised Trump’s apparent detachment from proceedings (T didn’t bother to use his translation ear plug when Frau Merkel was speaking) and apparent ‘frosty’ ambience. And no mention at all of wiretapping/bugging Trump.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 18 2017 7:36 utc | 116

The wiretap bugging claims are I think mostly interesting to those watching some “alienation of affection” in the republican party … in that he is “pressing his case” on an issue they have no enthusiasm for.
Anyone think he’s trying to creation from equivalency between the absence of evidence of HIS claims and the paucity of evidence wrt the Democrat’s claims wrt the Russian hacking? Aside from this “oppositional defiant” appearance on other issues and that this deflection is still obviously “operational”, I don’t see his benefit… I’m more appalled at his not shutting down the subject in respect to Germany/EU “world leader” visit to whine about mean reporters and unfair press.

Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Mar 18 2017 15:31 utc | 117

Democrats wont stop their hate propaganda against Russia, just in:
Donna Brazile Admits to Sharing Debate Questions With Clinton Camp, Blames Russia
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/18/donna-brazile-admits-to-sharing-debate-questions-with-clinton-camp-blames-russia/

Posted by: Anonymou_s | Mar 18 2017 19:11 utc | 118

Maxine Waters tweeted yesterday that the Russian matter was the ONLY thing that mattered … and I read elsewhere that it’s the #1 issues at meetings with constituents held by Democratic congress critters. They have unleashed a monster they cannot control and that the media isn’t going to let up on … it’s another one of those “evergreen” issues, like Monica Lewinsky, where “everybody knows their lines” … easy-peasey reportage and ratings.

Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Mar 18 2017 20:19 utc | 119

LP @111
So lame. Louis Proyect takes a piss and it barely gets noticed here. That’s how bad trolling for the feckless left and Clinton-Obama worship can mess you up.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Mar 18 2017 20:31 utc | 120

I’ve seen speculation that Tillerson came-home-early because he was in over-his-head, but no mention of Trump’s China-insulting-tweet although I’m not sure the exact sequence of those events. I’m wondering if Tillerson will be Trump’s first resignation.

Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Mar 18 2017 20:36 utc | 121

Oh and fwiw, the Guardian (with the assist of various tweets) takes apart Trump’s claims that Germany or NATO owes the United States anything in the way of big-bucks …
guardian: ‘That’s not how it works’: Trump’s grasp of Nato questioned after Merkel tweets.
Interesting in particular because this is the first take-down of this Trump endlessly repeat claim I’ve seen anywhere, even though he was making this claim throughout the campaign … yes, our press is lazy, incurious, and poorly informed.
I saw reportage today about the Vault7 “hack” … when it was obviously a leak by an insider by, yes, another outside contractor, as if “outside contractors” could be avoided given neoliberal reorganization of our government top-to-bottom over decades.

Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Mar 18 2017 20:46 utc | 122

Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Mar 18, 2017 11:31:32 AM | 117 etc
(appalling Trump priorities re Merkel visit)
As tedious and irrelevant as it may seem, Trump is on a winner with His war on Snooping/Disgusting Fake News MSM. As POTUS, He is obliged to demonstrate that he can indulge in ‘relentless pursuit’ of his enemies even more relentlessly than them. Having been falsely accused of an un-American attitude toward Russia, his snooping accusation puts Obama and the Alphabet Soup agencies in the position of having to prove a negative (an impossibility). So the more he harps on it the guiltier they look. It might make them more careful and has already damaged their reputation.
Germany and NATO are probably still smarting over the embarrassment of being tricked into buying 2,500 of Lockheed’s (self-destructing) Starfighters. According to wiki Japan retired their 104s early and used them as pilotless target-practice drones and Pakistan uses their 104s as “airfield decoys”.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 18 2017 21:21 utc | 123

I do forget that Trump’s base likely revels in every rudness shown to any and every foreign leader, just because …

Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Mar 18 2017 21:42 utc | 124

I do forget that Trump’s base likely revels in every rudness shown to any and every foreign leader, just because …
Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Mar 18, 2017 5:42:37 PM | 124

Well, more or less.
But not just because… (he can?)
If you reflect for a moment or two, you’ll realise that the only foreign leaders he’s been rude to so far are the shameless Fake War on Terra liars.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 18 2017 22:04 utc | 125

I suspect he’s rude to everyone as a matter of showing them whose the mas-macho alpha

Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Mar 18 2017 23:35 utc | 126

psychohistorian:
This is text book brainwashing. Keep telling the same lies, with flourish (looking at the next (s)election)) and soon all heads are nodding and will continue to do so until told otherwise….how long has it been since the (s)election?….close to 4 months now and I am seeing the effect on the populace…….TV is evil as a one way stream of the world according to the God of Mammon.
Yes indeed, Democratic/Lbieral logic seems to be to flood the media with anti-russian propaganda memes 24/7, thats how propaganda works.
That Russia “meddle”, regardless that NO proof whatsoever have been presented, is now considered a “fact”, meanwhile the same propaganists say that russians is peddling “fake news”. You cant make this up, its bizarre and its pure brainwashing.

Posted by: test | Mar 19 2017 12:32 utc | 127