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March 13, 2017
Open Thread 2017-11
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Putin… there is a category of people who leave without saying goodbye, “out of respect for the present situation,” while others say goodbye all the time, but do not go away. “The outgoing administration, in my opinion, belongs to the second category,” he said. Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 13 2017 20:11 utc | 1 Must see Posted by: Mina | Mar 13 2017 20:31 utc | 2 How can one hate a guy as witty and astute as Rooty Poot Poot. Posted by: fast freddy | Mar 13 2017 20:32 utc | 3 Seal Team 6 practicing a decapitation strike on Kim Jong Un? What a great idea! The nukes over Pyongang and 100k projectiles firing chemical and incendiary weapons onto Seoul will look amazing in hi def! Posted by: aaaa | Mar 13 2017 20:52 utc | 5 China is not happy about South Korea aiming missiles in their direction. According to the BBC the Chinese government has instructed all patriotic citizens to take action. Posted by: dh | Mar 13 2017 20:53 utc | 6 Finally we are in the news (not!). FYI, our island is being sunk: Posted by: Maracatu | Mar 13 2017 20:55 utc | 7 Here it’s the anti-Russian sentiment that keeps getting switched on. Posted by: lysias | Mar 13 2017 21:06 utc | 8 The ’empire’ spends tons of money on its military – but is chicken shit and cowardly. The US uses surrogates and drones – its own soldiers are led by the same losers who got their (our) butts kicked in Vietnam and every other military engagement since! Like picking vegetables and fruit, fighting is beneath the American – so the US funds surrogates and sends in the drones. Why? Posted by: rg the lg | Mar 13 2017 21:18 utc | 9 I’ve never seen Prof Michel Chossudovsky of Global Research react so quickly to anything: Posted by: blues | Mar 13 2017 21:36 utc | 10 North Korea can make Japan uninhabitable simply by destroying the nuclear power plants located on Japan’s west coast. Each plant has multiple spent fuel pools that contain massive amounts of cesium-137 (and other fission products). Destroying the reactor and spent fuel pools would send immense clouds of deadly ionizing radiation across Japan. The fallout would render vast areas uninhabitable and would pose a lethal threat to the Japanese populace. Posted by: Perimetr | Mar 13 2017 22:31 utc | 11 I find that almost 100% of the op/ed essays demonizing tRump ought to have said similar things about Obama, which does more to promote the writers’s hypocrisy and turn off potential readers than any other act. Perhaps that’s a good think since there seems to be an overabundance of opiners and few reality-grounded reporters. Seems a lot of such writers want to have tRump impeached on what are just as trivial articles of impeachment as those used against Clinton, whereas very powerful articles ought to have brought down Bush and Obama (and existed for Clinton, too)–but Pelosi said impeachment was off the table, thus refusing to due her job. Congress is infested with cowards except in the case where they can make life even more miserable for the already–or close to being–downtrodden. Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 13 2017 22:36 utc | 12 @10 blues Though I have much respect for P. Chossudovsky (met him about 15 years ago) he is a bit alarmist by nature. I doubt this will devolve to more then empty rethoric that serves to impede a potential rapprochement between both Korean halves post-impeachment.. Posted by: Lozion | Mar 13 2017 23:08 utc | 13 @9 I like to keep my pitchfork nice and sharp, mostly by scraping against the concrete floor of my manure bin. If the going gets rough, I have plenty of ammo and a four-prong bayonet. Posted by: stumpy | Mar 13 2017 23:37 utc | 14 Cambodia – US wants 50 year old debt repaid. Posted by: ted01 | Mar 13 2017 23:46 utc | 15 @ Perimetr who wrote about North Korea making Japan uninhabitable by destroying the nukes. Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 13 2017 23:56 utc | 16 This is an interesting week. Do you know how they say ‘Sometimes nothing changes for a decade, and then everything changes in a fortnight?’ – seems to me like we had a few such fortnights in recent years. Posted by: smuks | Mar 14 2017 0:45 utc | 17 @17 Posted by: ALberto | Mar 14 2017 1:52 utc | 18 @14 stumpy… “…concrete floor of my manure bin.” lucky you! Posted by: james | Mar 14 2017 2:08 utc | 19 as regards changes in a fortnight, to Juncker in total denial: unable to see the fast-sinking European ‘Titanic’ add the excellent Open Letter to the People of Greece: You Are Being Slaughtered by Peter Koenig .
let us hope the greeks manage to stand up and do what has to be done, and that the rest of europe forsakes the titanic as well. Posted by: jfl | Mar 14 2017 2:18 utc | 20 Latest from John Helmer on the Canadian FM Chrystia Freeland Ukro-Nazi Allegations: Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 14 2017 2:31 utc | 21 washintonsblog has a post on bank-created ‘money’ and debt … The Banking Secret that Neither Economists Nor Laypeople Know …. haven’t yet read this one, but have read lots on the subject … the linked video looks like an hour or so well-spent Prof. Richard Werner – Banking Industry Exposed & Solutions Presented – Dublin April 2016 Posted by: jfl | Mar 14 2017 2:43 utc | 22 tRump endows CIA with more leeway to commit terror: Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 14 2017 3:26 utc | 23 Karlof1: Posted by: rg the lg | Mar 14 2017 3:40 utc | 24 It should be obvious by now, but for those looking for more video evidence….. Posted by: Liam | Mar 14 2017 3:40 utc | 25 RE: psychohistorian | Mar 13, 2017 7:56:26 PM | 16 Posted by: Perimetr | Mar 14 2017 4:41 utc | 26 @rg the lg & james, got your solution right here:
@Perimetr, not just the Japanese nuclear power plants, see NYC’s Indian Point:
…nuclear-plant-security/impacts-of-a-terrorist-attack Posted by: nonsense factory | Mar 14 2017 4:57 utc | 27 Mcmaster vows that from now on murkka would fight its wars ‘without one arm tied behind its back’ like in nam…. Posted by: denk | Mar 14 2017 5:24 utc | 28 Peter Au, Posted by: denk | Mar 14 2017 5:35 utc | 29 Sure … nonsense factory … your name fits the solution. Electricity, and thus things electrical, depend on a huge assumption – that parts will be available. A better solution would be to burn the crap. It might not be something you’d find initially appealing, but with death as an option, burning shit might not be so bad? Posted by: rg the lg | Mar 14 2017 5:50 utc | 30 Corrected URL for Helmer’s latest Chrystia Freeland article @ 21 Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 14 2017 6:14 utc | 31 rg the lg and nonsense factory.. my comment was in reply to stumpy mentioning he had a concrete floor to use the pitchfork for moving manure! funny how conversations go in different directions. Posted by: james | Mar 14 2017 6:16 utc | 32 No matter what Trump pretends with Putin; Putin has to think beyond Trump geopolitically to secure Russia’s future as a global leader and to deter U.S. hegemony and the pervasive threat of aggression and political interference by its leaders. The U.S. regardless of Trump will always provide financial and material support to Putin’s opposition in Russia. He should not be deluded by the Trump illusion. Therefore, whatever plan the U.S. has been executing(PNAC) to achieve dominance, Putin should be one step ahead following a counter-plan, Trump or no Trump. Trump is a wild card and he may not make it past the 2020 elections anyway, therefore Putin should not put all his eggs in the Trump basket. Trump only represents a means to buy some time to put obstacles in the way of PNAC as most U.S. leaders/politicians will never consider Russia an ally and sooner or later Russia will be in the crosshairs again. Posted by: Circe | Mar 14 2017 7:35 utc | 33 UNCUT VIDEO of Michael Brown at Ferguson Market & Liquor on FIVE CAMERAS 8/9/14 a little after 1 AM Posted by: Tom Murphy | Mar 14 2017 9:03 utc | 34 Brilliant interview on Syria: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G_cd2TLhaZg Posted by: Anoncommentator | Mar 14 2017 11:21 utc | 35 If North Korea can deploy a rocket that can reach within 100 miles of the West Coast of the USA, they need only detonate a high-altitude atomic blast whose EMP would fry every electronic circuit within a wide radius. Posted by: ralphieboy | Mar 14 2017 11:52 utc | 36 Re: nonsense factory | Mar 14, 2017 12:57:16 AM | 27 Posted by: Perimetr | Mar 14 2017 13:07 utc | 37 jfl | Mar 13, 2017 10:43:00 PM | 22 Posted by: ex-sarajlija | Mar 14 2017 13:53 utc | 38 … Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 14 2017 14:11 utc | 39 Hoarsewhisperer @ 40 Posted by: estouxim | Mar 14 2017 14:34 utc | 40 a small genocide, ca 150,000-200,000 victims in refugee camps, with western complicities Posted by: Mina | Mar 14 2017 14:47 utc | 41 @perimetr 37 Posted by: smuks | Mar 14 2017 14:55 utc | 42 @Hoarse 40 Posted by: smuks | Mar 14 2017 15:00 utc | 43 @ Posted by: ralphieboy | Mar 14, 2017 7:52:09 AM | 36
Posted by: Outraged | Mar 14 2017 15:11 utc | 44 Re: smuks | Mar 14, 2017 10:55:23 AM | 43 “Discussion of the consequences of war to nuclear power plants has been verboten in MSM.” Actually there was a huge and very public debate about this in Europe post-9/11. Posted by: Perimetr | Mar 14 2017 15:48 utc | 45 mina @ 2 thanks for that link. one disquieting aspect is that ppl insist on blaming top figureheads / orgs, e.g. hollande, obama, trump, merkel, the EU, the Dems, the alt-right, the MIC, the Deep State, etc. for whatever woes, yet they are *extremely* reluctant to look into criminal networks and the role they play in drugs, child / adult trafficking, organ traffic, not to mention many other scams, plus the flowering links and joins between these ‘under the radar crim. networks’ and institutionalised state bodies. that is all taboo. Posted by: Noirette | Mar 14 2017 15:50 utc | 46 Re: Outraged | Mar 14, 2017 11:11:42 AM | 45 Posted by: Perimetr | Mar 14 2017 15:55 utc | 47 @ Posted by: Perimetr | Mar 14, 2017 11:55:47 AM | 47 Posted by: Outraged | Mar 14 2017 16:48 utc | 48 Noirette, u nail it, debate on france culture yesterday 6.30 pm on hunger in Nigeria south sudan somalia yemen with no single mention of the state actors involved in the different conflicts. Even when UN o brien declared just one day before that these are men made rather than draught related explicitely Intervenants were ngo ppl who knew their boundaries very well. Posted by: Mina | Mar 14 2017 17:45 utc | 49 @perimetr Posted by: smuks | Mar 14 2017 20:52 utc | 50 Since 2 weeks the feench msm is again oro ksa/qatar line on syria Posted by: Mina | Mar 14 2017 22:38 utc | 51 A question to the community. With the SAA now having direct road access through East Aleppo to Tishrin Dam and SDF areas east of the Euphrates, would it be possible to simply move resources to the area north of Dier ez Zor and attack ISIS from that axis? It’s “only” 40 km from the existing SDF lines to Dier ez Zor and this would likely be a much safer/easier route to relieve Dier ez Zor than the long exposed route from Palmyra. Complications recognized (SDF, US, Arab tribes cooperation) but possible? Posted by: Sad Canuck | Mar 14 2017 23:35 utc | 52 @52 Good question, politically it may be impossible txs to the SDF being under US control/pressure.. Posted by: Lozion | Mar 15 2017 0:49 utc | 53 YET another china friendly leader, sinophile park chung he bites the dust amidgst corruption scandal. [1] Posted by: denk | Mar 15 2017 2:52 utc | 54 @54 Sad but true denk. Not many sovereign states left. The BRICS is being dismantled. This is why Syria is a redline for Russia/Iran. Lets hope for a multipolar world to emerge before we end up 6 feet under.. Posted by: Lozion | Mar 15 2017 6:09 utc | 55 @ outraged & karlof1 – from the previous thread, I suppose it’s more appropriate to post this here Posted by: estouxim | Mar 15 2017 7:14 utc | 56 Sad Canuck 52 Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 15 2017 8:47 utc | 57 Reading about Eastern Syria in Carl Raswan’s books, I came cross these testimonies about Eastern Aleppo 2013. Posted by: Mina | Mar 15 2017 15:44 utc | 58 France Culture (a French governmental radio) 6 PM news (the main evening news on this station). They announce a report on an important place of “memory of the war”, which enters its 6th year, but no mention of the bombings in damascus today in the main titles, just a short sentence, less than ten words, in the introduiction to the report which is actually on a website that has 22,000 songs… among memories of the revolution… so serious…). They have had such reports for three days on the occasion, and Kodmani whom they present as a ‘journalist’, and never mentioned Astana and the boycott. Posted by: Mina | Mar 15 2017 17:15 utc | 59 Good article on how bad The Guardian have become. Posted by: Anonymou_S | Mar 15 2017 17:47 utc | 60 @ Posted by: Anonymou_S | Mar 15, 2017 1:47:23 PM | 60
🙂 Posted by: Outraged | Mar 15 2017 19:09 utc | 61 Exit polls for Netherlands unfortunately show…more of the same with the ruling pro-establishment party winning. Posted by: Anonymou_S | Mar 15 2017 22:02 utc | 62 @38 ex-sarajlija
… i don’t see it shrinking, in Canada or anywhere (everywhere) the banksters are creating money, and neither does the author …
one observation is certainly tongue-in-cheek …
… this is the contra-positive of Upton Sinclair’s observation
that site … PDForum … is run by what seems like a ‘reformed’ cia hitman … David C. Korten. whatever his case, this article by John H. Hotson is as clear and concise as it gets, imho. Posted by: jfl | Mar 16 2017 0:16 utc | 63 Lozion 55 Posted by: denk | Mar 16 2017 3:11 utc | 64 “While the United States is not directly involved in the civil war, we are providing limited assistance to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA)-led coalition in an effort to help protect their territorial integrity and sovereign borders.” Posted by: james | Mar 16 2017 3:51 utc | 65 denk | Mar 15, 2017 11:11:04 PM | 64 Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 16 2017 4:44 utc | 66 Debsisdead 66 Posted by: denk | Mar 16 2017 5:21 utc | 67 Daniel McAdams Posted by: denk | Mar 16 2017 5:47 utc | 68 I fucking knew it. The big trump infrastructure plan to spend a $1 trillion on fixing up the parlous state of amerikan transport infrastructure has been revealed to be a scam.
The maintenence will never happen of course, the meat in the trump sandwich aka whichever agency is foolish enough to agree to oversee the contracts drawn up at the time of sale, might as well be pissing in the wind as asking a private corporation to ‘waste’ money on such foolishness. The new owners will claim that as much as they might want to spend money on fixing rickety roads and brittle bridges, their shareholders would rightly charge them with fraud and reducing potential profits if they did such a thing.
Amerikans who have been naughty probably have considerable experience of how fucked the prisons have become since privatisation of the justice system but others may not be aware of how privatising a monopoly makes every aspect infinitely worse. Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 16 2017 11:22 utc | 69 Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 16, 2017 7:22:29 AM | 69 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 16 2017 18:29 utc | 70 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 16, 2017 2:29:44 PM Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 16 2017 21:18 utc | 71 Google now makes censorship official…… http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2017/03/16/google-flags-offensive-content-search-results/99235548/?hootPostID=b3de4ac650e6664d6662e9209ff54b5b Posted by: Liam | Mar 17 2017 0:41 utc | 72 They are diabolical members of the psychotic Tribe. They deserve to be treated like marshmallows. Posted by: John | Mar 17 2017 2:48 utc | 73 dont be too hard on trump, Posted by: denk | Mar 17 2017 3:53 utc | 74 Sigh more of the same, Posted by: Anoynmou_s | Mar 17 2017 12:19 utc | 75 @denk “US-backed South Sudanese regime organizing genocidal crimes, UN report.” Posted by: ProPeace | Mar 17 2017 13:02 utc | 76 Some blood curling facts about the Brutish Empire outrageous crimes:
Posted by: ProPeace | Mar 17 2017 13:15 utc | 77 @66 “I seriously doubt the saudis want to keep up this market fixing to depress prices much longer.” Posted by: dh | Mar 17 2017 14:05 utc | 78 ProPeace 76 Posted by: denk | Mar 18 2017 4:05 utc | 79 @ denk at comment # 79 who wrote about how the cia/nsa/petagoon are the problem Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 18 2017 4:59 utc | 80 psychohistorian 80 Posted by: denk | Mar 18 2017 5:33 utc | 81 @ denk who wrote that we have to take out “their “muscle men”” Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 18 2017 6:25 utc | 82 Jesus Christ, Merkel is making a fool of herself in the below video, no sense of humour at all, doing all to defend obama. Posted by: Anonymou_s | Mar 18 2017 16:35 utc | 83 And ZH has a new article up that supports my point Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 18 2017 16:39 utc | 84 i wonder if belarus is about to become ukraine redux? Russia-Belarus Union in Crisis makes me wonder. Posted by: jfl | Mar 19 2017 1:12 utc | 85 World war 3 is coming Posted by: Les | Mar 19 2017 3:36 utc | 86 I think that it is significant that last Tuesday Trump met with Saudi Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and on Friday Chinese Premier Li met with Saudi King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud. Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 19 2017 5:36 utc | 87 psychohistorian 87 Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 19 2017 5:51 utc | 88 Anonymou_s 83 Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 19 2017 6:55 utc | 89 ‘British Prime Minister Theresa May has announced that Britain will celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Balfour Declaration later this year.’ … so begins Lawrence Davidson’s post, One Hundred Years of the Balfour Declaration …
… looked into America’s Palestine: Popular and Official Perceptions from Balfour to Israeli Statehood, have only read the first two chapters so far. very enlightening. promises to be a good read all the way through. Posted by: jfl | Mar 21 2017 1:55 utc | 91 Fort Russ has this … Belarus arrests “armed provocateurs,” Lukashenko points finger at Ukraine, Lithuania, Poland … on belarus. had this … Russia-Belarus Union in Crisis … on the recent history of belarus. i can imagine the attack as being for real … or as a theatre piece to distract from lukashenko’s problems. either way things are not looking up in belarus. another ukraine tyoe maidan? just what russia and europe need? I cannot help asking those who have caused the situation – do you realize, now, what you have done? … they do realize it, and are looking to ‘do’ more. Posted by: jfl | Mar 21 2017 12:47 utc | 92 And for something I have not seen reported elsewhere and contains some interesting wording: Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 22 2017 5:18 utc | 93 after detailing usaid/ned funding of the opposition in belarus … fort russ notes ..
… i haven’t seen much on this elsewhere. but fort russ has made a comprehensive push to alert me – and all the others who read fort russ – of cia/state’s actions in belarus. Posted by: jfl | Mar 22 2017 6:45 utc | 94 @93 psycho, ‘The Israel-Palestine issue has long-term and profound impact on the situation in the Middle East, Xi said, adding China appreciates Israel’s adoption of the two-state solution.’ Posted by: jfl | Mar 22 2017 7:03 utc | 95 JFL 95 Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 22 2017 7:56 utc | 96 @ JFL Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 22 2017 8:17 utc | 97 @97 p au Posted by: jfl | Mar 22 2017 13:41 utc | 98 I suspect psychohistorian will be interested in this. Posted by: juannie | Mar 22 2017 22:56 utc | 99 US, Kurdish forces airdropped in Syria’s Raqqa
US Confirms Airdrop Of Shock Troops West Of Tabqa In Syrian Province Of Raqqah
map Posted by: jfl | Mar 22 2017 23:11 utc | 100 |
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