OK here’s THE TRUTH about my position regarding Trump:
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Well, Circe has a relentless “missionary” style that annoys me a little. There have been times when I questioned his (he’s male, right?) sincerity. And worst of all, he simply posts too many comments. But, most unfortunately, a lot of what he says about Trump is looking more and more likely. I’ve struggled with “civility issues” myself lately.
Regarding the medal awarded to the Saudi thug, yeah, Trump had to approve of it. Trump does a lot of things that make no sense to me. One thing for sure — If the CIA handed me such a thing, I would loose it in an unfortunate boating accident. Who knows what might be in there?
Posted by: blues | Feb 11, 2017 6:55:04 PM | 44
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/02/cia-honors-major-terrorist-financer-for-successful-cooperation.html#c6a00d8341c640e53ef01b8d25f366d970c
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Posted by: blues | Mar 5 2017 11:50 utc | 104

Note pedophile story is being actively researched by citizens around the world and documented (also archived) on voat pizzagate…
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate

Posted by: Bluemot5 | Mar 5 2017 14:14 utc | 106

Meanwhile in other “real” news, Phil Hammond, UK Chancellor, has threatened war with the European Union.

Philip Hammond vows UK will fight back if it gets bad Brexit deal
Chancellor tells EU that Britain won’t ‘slink off like a wounded animal’ if no trade agreement is struck during article 50 talks
Philip Hammond has sent a warning to Britain’s European partners that Britain will “fight back” and not “slink off like a wounded animal” if it does not get the Brexit deal it wants.
In combative language ahead of triggering the article 50 negotiations on terms of withdrawal, the chancellor said Britain would “do whatever we need to do”

Perhaps the EU should turn to Russia to assist it (EU).

Posted by: Ghostship | Mar 5 2017 14:44 utc | 108

Circe @ where ever: Keep swinging the hammer. You’re postings are relevant, and IMO, represent reality. Mr. Trump is just the latest, in the un-broken line of corporate puppets, presented to the American masses, to distract from the real issue of class warfare.
The ad homs directed against you, tell the real tale.

Posted by: ben | Mar 5 2017 15:50 utc | 110

@102
First of all, if I brought up Zionism, it’s because the source of this wiretapping allegation is a raging Zionist and his radical reputation precedes him in every way. So you just can’t ask me to completely ignore that fact. It’s completely disingenuous to pretend the issue of Zionism has nothing at all to do with his attempt to rescue this administration from the more Liberal media tear-down.
So really you still haven’t answered my question: Why did the fanatical Zionist, Mark Levin, provide cover for Trump from the media’s Russia-Trump admin collusion onslaught by putting the Obama wiretapping allegation out there front and center???
Mark Levin is the source of the allegation, Breitbart ran with it, no doubt with Bannon’s full blessing and Trump then used it to deflect and change the media narrative. Levin is a radical Zionist who repeatedly accused the Obama administration of stabbing Israel in the back and Breitbart defended Levin’s rants railing against the previous administration’s disloyalty to Israel and vice-versa Levin defended Bannon as a strong supporter of Israel when the latter was accused of anti-Semitism around the time of the election. So there’s quid pro quo between Breitbart and this radical Zionist gatekeeper. As a matter of fact Breitbart has an Israel Section on its site that is so pro-Zionist, it pales the rest of the media’s Zionist shilling and proves that Breitbart is also a gatekeeper for Zionism.
Now, it’s already been proven that Zionists have pushed the worst foreign policy agenda on the U.S. ever. They were behind Iraq, behind Libya (I’ll remind everyone of Bernard-Henri Levy’s deep involvement pushing for a U.N. no-fly resolution and arm-in-arm support for Libya’s rebels fighting under the AQ banner). Zionists have been part of the Syrian proxy war first stoking conflict with the many operatives Israel had in Syria and providing assistance to AQ and they make no secret that they’ve been collaborating with the Saudis probably on Yemen and they’re incessantly pushing for escalation with Iran.
Levin is also a hardcore Neocon who railed against Russia and Obama for being too soft on Russia.
So, my point is, that Levin collaborated with Breitbart to plant an Obama=Nixon narrative to rescue this administration and there’s a reason for this. If Trump wasn’t a Zionist/MIC/Neocon loyalist; this radical Neocon Zionist wouldn’t stick his neck out and jump in to deflect with an allegation that risks his credibility but that could have resulted in an Obama=Nixon bombshell but that was mostly intended to deflect from the current narrative closing in on this administration therefore meant to douse the media firestorm surrounding Trump.
Here’s the thing, Levin also repeatedly rages against Liberal Zionism calling them Hamas apologists, self-loathing Jews and traitors. Many of the media outlets could be considered Liberal Zionist gatekeepers and Neoliberal, while Fox, Breitbart and others are more in the Neocon/Likud and settler expansionism camp. So this would explain why there’s this media rift, where one side is all in with Trump attacking the other side for trying to bring down this administration.
There’s a war going on between Liberal and Likudist/Expansionist Zionism and the latter are trying to protect Trump’s Presidency and trying to sabotage the more Liberal media that are trying to tear down this Presidency.
It’s as I said, the entire system is corrupt, but it appears that there’s a major power struggle happening within the system at the same time and I’m hoping they end up destroying each other. The worst thing we can do is to support one side over the other. We should be exposing all the corruption on both sides and fight this because whichever side wins will be bad or worse. There is no good side here. Trump is not on the good side. I’m telling everyone to get out of the dark that includes both sides.
WE ARE ON THE GOOD SIDE WHEN WE STOP SUPPORTING AND START CONDEMNING THIS CORRUPT NEO-ZIO MONOPOLY and it is up to us; ONLY US. This administration led by Trump is as corrupt or worse than Bush/Cheney and Obama/Clinton. If radical Zionists are trying to rescue Trump – there’s a bad agenda there.
Thanks ben, no worries, I’m not backing down.

Posted by: Circe | Mar 5 2017 16:29 utc | 112

FBI decoded pizzagate email lingo.
Just two email tidbits among many:
1. Podesta contemplates his choice of girl or boy for assaulting (rape/murder possible) at a planned and eagerly anticipated pizza shop soiree.
2. Pool Party planned in cold weather where adults need sweaters, but children (brought specifically for the entertainment of these adults) would be swimming in the pool.
No investigation. No arrests. Media blackout. Red Scare diversion. Wiretap Diversion.
We know thatNSA is in the business of data mining and storage. We have a pretty good idea that this activity never ceased. It has the goods on everyone and anyone.
It is therefore complicit in the cover up.
IF politicians are pedos, then they are easily controlled by deepstate via blckmail.
Strange that Obama/Trump “wiretap” scandal is issue dujour.
Limited Hangout. From what we can surmise fairly easily, we are all “wiretapped” all the time.

Posted by: fast freddy | Mar 5 2017 16:53 utc | 114

@111 Interesting post. Levin waves a lot of paper around but there are still unanswered questions. i.e is a FISA warrant the same as ‘wiretapping’ (which is what Trump alleges)? Does Levin have anything to prove wiretapping occurred? This could easily turn into an endless series of allegations and denials. The Breitbart interview….
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/03/05/mark-levin-breaks-trump-wiretapping-claims/

Posted by: dh | Mar 5 2017 16:59 utc | 116

@101 Project Clear Vision was a CIA-run operation to replicate Soviet biological weapons development, particularly high-tech dry powedered anthrax. This is the most likely source of the anthrax used in the anthrax letter attacks of Fall 2001 (mailed on 9/18 to media outlets and on 10/9 to the US Senate). One strong line of evidence is that Judicial Watch uncovered that Dick Cheney’s staff started taking cipro, the anthrax-specific antibiotic, the day after 9/11 – which would have protected them from infection while loading up letters with anthrax spores.
The FBI’s coverup attempt involved targeting Hatfill (who won a multimillion dollar settlement for false accusation) and then Ivins (who conveniently “killed himself” with a Tylenol overdose and no note, July 29 2008, in a replay of the Dr. David Kelly “suicide” of July 17 2003 (both probable assassinations). In addition, Jonathan B Tucker, who revealed the Project Clear Vision, Project Jefferson and Project Bacchus programs (all violations of US biological weapons agreements), mysteriously died on July 31 2011, of unexplained causes, as he was about to take a significant position inside the US government:

“At his death, he was awaiting a security clearance for a new job at the Department of Homeland Security…
Dr. Tucker’s experience as a weapons inspector helped him to be named in 1995 to the Presidential Advisory Committee on Gulf War Veterans’ Illnesses. The group was organized to investigate claims that troops who fought in the Persian Gulf War suffered from ailments possibly linked to chemical weapons. Although he received high performance reviews, Dr. Tucker was dismissed from the team before the report was completed. In interviews afterward, Dr. Tucker said he was removed because he refused to limit his research to data provided solely by the government..”

There’s been no report on cause of death, as of 2011 this is it:

“A spokeswoman in the District of Columbia’s Office of the Chief Medical Examiner said that determination of the cause of death was pending further investigation.”

Tucker’s 2004 expose of Projects Jefferson (referring to CIA contractor Battelle’s West Jefferson Ohion biological weapons research facility, and a genetically modified bioweapon program), Clear Vision (the CIA’s effort to reconstruct Soviet-era anthrax biowepaons, in alliance with Battelle) and Bacchus (some shady effort to set up a bioweapons laboratory using widely available supplies by the Defense Department’s DTRA) , is here:
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2004_10/Tucker
It’s pretty obvious at this point that the anthrax attacks that sparked a nationwide panic were a false flag attack directed by members of the Bush Administration in order to create more momentum for attacking and invading Iraq (who they immediately attempted to blame the attack on). The fact, however, that they were soon exposed as a domestically-sourced operation also shows that while Deep State actors may be conniving little shits, they can also be monumentally stupid and their operations are often likely to be exposed.
This, I believe, is why there was no effort to plant WMDs in Iraq after the invasion in 2003; they knew that any such manufactured evidence wouldn’t be able to withstand public scrutiny.

Posted by: nonsense factory | Mar 5 2017 17:04 utc | 118

Since when has talking to Russians before or after an election become officially a crime? Would some one please clear up this matter for me.

Posted by: Quentin | Mar 5 2017 17:06 utc | 120

Yes, There Could Be Serious Legal Problems if Obama Admin Involved in Illegal Surveillance By Robert Barnes at Law Newz

“…The stories currently are three-fold: first, that Obama’s team tried to get a warrant from a regular, Article III federal court on Trump, and was told no by someone along the way (maybe the FBI), as the evidence was that weak or non-existent; second, Obama’s team then tried to circumvent the federal judiciary’s independent role by trying to mislabel the issue one of “foreign agents,” and tried to obtain a warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act “courts”, and were again turned down, when the court saw Trump named (an extremely rare act of FISA court refusal of the government, suggesting the evidence was truly non-existent against Trump); and so, third, Obama circumvented both the regular command of the FBI and the regularly appointed federal courts, by placing the entire case as a FISA case (and apparently under Sally Yates at DOJ) as a “foreign” case, and then omitted Trump’s name from a surveillance warrant submitted to the FISA court, which the FISA court unwittingly granted, which Obama then misused to spy on Trump and many connected to Trump. Are these allegations true? We don’t know yet, but if any part of them are than Obama and/or his officials could face serious trouble.”

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/yes-obama-could-be-prosecuted-if-involved-with-illegal-surveillance/
Recall NSA’s Mike Rodgers made a visit to Trump Towers unbeknownst to anyone in the 0 administration. The visit was made only after a secured system was established inside the Trump office suite.
Also recall, “First, as the New York Times reported earlier this week, in its final days, the Obama Administration expanded the power of the National Security Agency (NSA) to share globally intercepted personal communication with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying any privacy protections. The new rules were issued under section 2.3 of Executive Order 12333 after approval by two Obama Administration officials: Attorney General Loretta Lynch and Director of National Intelligence Director, James Clapper.”
https://aclj.org/national-security/is-the-intelligence-community-trying-to-subvert-our-national-security

Posted by: h | Mar 5 2017 17:20 utc | 122

re 115
The Levin interview was from Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends” on the Breitbart website.

Posted by: dh | Mar 5 2017 17:41 utc | 124

@124 Politics as usual in other words.

Posted by: dh | Mar 5 2017 17:51 utc | 126

@119 Quentin – the non political answer is none. There is absolutely nothing illegal or sundry when talking to countries official representatives when preparing for an administration change.
But this Russian meme is political. The neolib/neocons lost the general. They are LOSERS. LOSERS who have had 50 years to infiltrate every crevice of the U.S. government bureaucracy while also holding power in the Executive, both the House and Senate and stacking the Judiciary with fellow travelers, and I’d be remiss in not mentioning the trillions of dollars that are at stake via the Military Industrial Complex’s insatiable appetite for WAR, WAR, WAR.
When one spends 50 years, in this case, thousands of fellow travelers, to build a global system of domination, as the neo’s have done, well, they don’t take to kindly to an outsider, especially a real estate broker, taking over ‘their’ power. In order for the neo cabal to achieve such domination they’ve had to do a lot of things that are illegal – nationally and globally – and criminal, and having a perceived political neophyte who isn’t on their team now able to learn about so, so many misdeeds has them in a hyper panic as well as their march toward a unipolar world being interrupted/side tracked but in no way dead.
Hillary was to be, I’m thinking, our last Prez BECAUSE she wouldn’t have hesitated starting a hot war with Russia believing unequivocally the U.S., NATO and others would win. Once you knock off Russia as a super power, all the neo cabal has left is China and Iran. As we all know, China is feverishly ramping up their military assets as is Iran, because the march toward neo globalism, an unipolar world, is at their front doorstep. Once the unipolar world is achieved who needs a President…King, yep, Queen, yep.
Like Trump or not, his being elected has allowed for a pause toward said march. But as we all know, Trump has surrounded himself with neocons so who knows if this pause will be sustained. I’m doubtful. Maybe the U.S. soldiers could stand down just this one time.
But no matter, the Russian’s are a threat means they are a threat to the 50 year march toward an unipolar world. Therefore, the neo’s knowing they are LOSERS are pulling every trick out of their black hat to get Trump and his non neo appointees out of their way so as to get their neo’s back into ‘puppet’ power to continue their march toward a neo unipolar world.
Russia, China, Iran and pretty much any thinking person does not want a supra globalist structure unaccountable to the millions of the world citizens. By nature, the farther away a government entity is from its people the less the people are served by that entity. And given the massive surveillance and police state the majority of ‘we the people’ have accepted with nary a peep means civilian uprisings under such a supra entity would be for naught. Now that’s a heck of a future to bequeath to your kids…
Lastly, if the neo’s didn’t think Hillary was going to win they never would have sent all those tanks, heli’s and troops to Russia’s eastern border following the general. Russia stands in the way of neo’s way, therefore, they are THEIR enemy NOT ‘We the People’s’.

Posted by: h | Mar 5 2017 18:34 utc | 128

Here’s some puke-inducing news that again proves the Trump administration is a continuum of the previous one.:

It was the third time since September 2016 that Blair and Kushner have met in secrecy, The Daily Mail’s sister-paper added.
The paper’s informed source said that the former British prime mister may take on the role of Kushner’s senior adviser.
“Blair has been pitching hard for this job and Trump’s people are taking him very seriously,” the source added.
https://www.rt.com/uk/379521-trump-blair-advisor-middle-east/
The thought of Trump resurrecting this Neolib residue…arrgh!

Posted by: Circe | Mar 5 2017 19:16 utc | 130

@Peter AU 83
“Saying please and asking nicely, I don’t think will change the US.”
Certainly not, but saying ‘please’ while carrying a big stick will. The US has to accept its new role as one among equals in a multilateral, cooperative global system. It won’t do that voluntarily, but it will if the alternative is total collapse, hardship and chaos.
China has the US by the … – step by step, it ‘convinces’ America to agree to the new global rules: The Iran Deal, the Yuan inclusion in the SDR, the coming reform of the IMF and the WTO…
Unless somebody snaps and does something crazy, the transition will work out smoothly. Most people won’t (or rather: don’t) even notice the change in the global power balance. And most will gladly accept a new economic system which does not need constant expansion and brutal competition.
@blues 82
Nice story behind your nick. But can’t you tell a joke when you see one? I even put 😉 …

Posted by: smuks | Mar 5 2017 19:26 utc | 132

@131 smuks… over 90% of the planet are on the same page as you and i.. it is the 1% or whatever that want to fuck the rest of us over… the financial system as it presently stands is still being run by the 1%.. these are the folks to are happy to toy with offering mass extinction, environmental holocaust and etc. etc.. i am ch-eerie.. don’t get me wrong, lol… i am a realist though however!!!~

Posted by: james | Mar 5 2017 20:20 utc | 134

Sad to see so many here fall under the spell of Circe the sorceress.
Circe showed up at MoA in November – about the same time that the anti-Trump, ‘Not my President!’ post election protests began.
Circe insisted that Trump was no ordinary Zionist; Trump was an uber-Zionist that would unleash Zionist hell!!!!! But Trump has not anything for Israel. He has NOT moved the US embassy to Jerusalem. He rebuked Netanyahu on settlement building. He didn’t even mention Jews in his Holocaust message.
Circus told us some other fanciful stuff also, that many here either missed or forgot:

>> that Adelson donated over $200 million to the Trump campaign – BUT a simple online search shows that Adelson only donated $10 million to the Trump campaign and SAID that he was going to donate another $25 million to a Republican super-PAC IN THE LAST WEEK that MAY have run ads for Trump. Hillary got FAR more Zionist support.
>> Circe foamed at the mouth about Trump’s neocon associations but Bolton, Abrams, and Woolsey were all shown the door.
>> Circe insists that he/she against the two-party system and wants a REVOLUTION! – BUT then he has said that he supports Kucinich (Democrat) in a future election. Wow, some “revolutionary”.
>> Circe continues with the trope that Obama was anti-Israel. That is nonsense for public consumption as most people here know.

Circe harps on anything that is anti-Trump. The sorceress is waging a campaign to weaken support for Trump.
I’m not asking you to believe me, or take sides in a dispute. I’m just asking that you ENGAGE YOUR BRAIN. US nationalism (‘America First’) is a Zionist nightmare. Israel and Saudi Arab want to be able to manipulate US foreign policy. They don’t want US-Russian relations to improve because their priority is to smash the ‘Shia Crescent’. Israeli officials have even said that they prefer that ISIS wins in Syria instead of Assad remaining.
Pat Lang now tells us that he sees real progress in US-Russian actions against ISIS.
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We got Trump because of Democratic Party corruption. Trump hate is a distraction that helps the Democratic Party’s effort to stifle the formation of a viable progressive MOVEMENT.
The ease of fooling people – even here at MoA – makes it clear to me that only a different kind of politics will succeed. That is why I urge people to support the Pirate Party.
The Pirate Party advocates a form of Direct Democracy. I hope you will take some time to learn more about them.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Mar 5 2017 20:59 utc | 136

smuks says:
Unless somebody snaps and does something crazy, the transition will work out smoothly
yeah, sure, or maybe at least until that polyester, er, i mean silk, road grows economic plaque and faith in the market collapses, multipolarly.

Posted by: john | Mar 5 2017 21:46 utc | 138

@james 132
I’m not saying all is golden. But I’m afraid if everyone just thinks we’re doomed and resigns, it’ll become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Disaster is far from inevitable, but first we have to believe it’s possible to avoid it.
The financial system is 90% run by central banks these days. All those smart banker guys would’ve gone bankrupt years ago, if the states hadn’t rescued them. They’re in no position to demand anything, rather they have no choice but accept the new rules and frameworks. In other words: It’s politics, not markets.

Posted by: smuks | Mar 5 2017 22:11 utc | 140

Re US military working with or coordinating with Russian/SAA military at Manbij.
US had no other option. If they backed up the Kurds, they would lose Incirlik. If they backed Turkey, they would lose the Kurds. Having the SAA control the area was acceptable to Turkey, but US co-operated because they had nowhere else to go.
At the moment it still looks as though US intend to retain control of all Syrian territory west of the Euphrates.

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 5 2017 22:17 utc | 142

b,
Perhaps the next time you take an extended leave you will hire a few bouncers. Seems the bar flies got drunk, puked on everything and got real ornery. Almost face bookish.

Posted by: ALberto | Mar 5 2017 22:28 utc | 144

@140 Looks like the Manbij Military Council will not surrender control of Manbij to the SAA, only portions west of the town on the contact lines with ES. Possibly under US pressure but the problem is that Turkey is adamant about Manbij not being in YPG’s hands.. Mmm.

Posted by: Lozion | Mar 5 2017 23:02 utc | 146

@PavewayIV | Mar 5, 2017 3:39:21 PM | 133
Agree. Please continue to post and always a pleasure reading your analysis. Thanks

Posted by: OJS | Mar 5 2017 23:19 utc | 148

@ Jackrabbit | Mar 5, 2017 3:59:43 PM | 134 (and all)
You said:
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We got Trump because of Democratic Party corruption. Trump hate is a distraction that helps the Democratic Party’s effort to stifle the formation of a viable progressive MOVEMENT.
The ease of fooling people – even here at MoA – makes it clear to me that only a different kind of politics will succeed. That is why I urge people to support the Pirate Party.
The Pirate Party advocates a form of Direct Democracy. I hope you will take some time to learn more about them.
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I slept this afternoon, and just upon awakening I had a disturbing thought. It began with the conscious awareness that the Dem Party is nothing other than an instrument of the Deep State. From there it is but just one small step to a full-fledged conspiracy postulate. I comb the Internet extensively, and am registered with about 100 blogs. Yet of all the hundreds of blogs I could comment on, I really only bother with two or three. About 99% of the blogs that I could or would post on are either gone dark, or deeply subverted by the Dem/Soros machine. And it can take years to discover that a seemingly credibly liberal website has actually been subverted by the Dem/Soros machine.
I have concluded that all of the three credible (not presumptuous) liberal sites that I currently post on are going to have to get very smart, or else become subverted or destroyed by the Dem/Soros dynasty. I do believe that they are here.

Posted by: blues | Mar 5 2017 23:39 utc | 150

139 Bannon ain’t no Dick Cheney. Cheney was a ruthless SOB, but he was also very cunning. Bannon and Trump have been about as clumsy and unkempt as can be, and this Obama wiretap tweet-claim could be the beginning of a very quick ending for his presidency if events don’t pan out in his favor.
I was not sure where the impeachment/25th amendment angle would come from, but I always had a high suspicion that Trump might cause the crisis all by himself.

Posted by: aaaa | Mar 5 2017 23:51 utc | 152

@95 circe, ‘Oh, and to my haters: I’m aa much a hasbara troll as Trump is a Manchurian candidate for radical Islam.’
i can’t imagine he’ stirred up any real hatred here. i ordinarily just scroll-over. certainly not a hasbarista … a clintonista, dnc-ista, maybe.

Posted by: jfl | Mar 6 2017 0:21 utc | 154

@134 jr, ‘Sad to see so many here fall under the spell of Circe the sorceress.’
you seem to be only one entranced. i’m afraid you’ve become a scrollover as well, having devoted yourself to single combat with the original scrollover.
more and more of the ‘precious’ real-estate is overtaken by comments on commenters …
i did see a piece by noam chomsky … well an interview … deflating the ’emergency’ … “Most of the World is Just Collapsing in Laughter”
on Claims that Russia Intervened in the US Election. there’s plenty to worry about … but the russians and obama-trump spying on each other ain’t it.

Posted by: jfl | Mar 6 2017 0:56 utc | 156

ahhhh jfl you’re wrong. Many of us agree with @134’s observations. Hate and vitriol are characteristics few reasoned individuals embrace. I’m one of them. After his comment to blues, so demeaning and condescending, I refuse to read anything he has to say. No one, and I mean no one, no matter what side you’re on should speak so despairingly to someone they don’t even know. That includes you, jfl, b/c you too enjoy walking the tightrope b/w civility and facts. Make no mistake, many of us are fed up with apologists and those who choose to misdirect. ENOUGH!

Posted by: h | Mar 6 2017 1:16 utc | 158

@ Posted by: h | Mar 5, 2017 1:34:32 PM | 127
@ Posted by: canuck | Mar 5, 2017 6:00:23 PM | 143
Pretty much concur. Thanks for the well thought out posts.
@ Posted by: Noirette | Mar 5, 2017 1:20:59 PM | 126
Thank you. Entirely unsurprising, yet good to see it make the light of day. Will it make a difference tho ?
@ Posted by: nonsense factory | Mar 5, 2017 11:58:44 AM | 114 & 117
No nonsense factory, always a must read. Dumped my draft write-up 😉
@ Posted by: h | Mar 5, 2017 12:20:17 PM | 121
Interesting links, especially a few of the ‘fact-based’ comments … this may have ‘legs’ …

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 6 2017 2:08 utc | 160

Information collected and posted here can be checked for accuracy and labeled real or opinion.
Quit bitching, and start checking. Is it REAL, or is it opinion? There IS a difference.
A stopped clock is even right twice a day.

Posted by: ben | Mar 6 2017 3:05 utc | 162

Honestly Circe @159 points you strive to make are laced with so much negativity and hate few can read it. And when you resort to belittling your naysayers you end up taking an even more defensive position than necessary. I don’t know if you’re a troll or been assigned MoA as a blog you have been hired to post on or a sincere individual who is disgusted by current political events. I just know that your hate is a complete turn off.
If you want reasonable people to take you and your point of view seriously then do so civilly without the laced ugliness you continue to type out on your keyboard. Try it. You might learn the rule about honey. Believe it or not, finesse, thoughtfulness and respect for others works.
Then again, maybe for you none of this matters. I don’t know. I just know you’re a smart individual who is passionate about his/her beliefs. But that doesn’t give you a license to be disrespectful toward others, hateful or mean.
Btw, have you read Whitney’s piece I suggested you to dig out over at Counterpunch? If not, you should.

Posted by: h | Mar 6 2017 3:32 utc | 164

circe
when people appear to be willingly obtuse ,
when they resort to ‘robber crying out robbery’ tactics, its time you ignore them and just say your piece.
too much B.S., too little time

Posted by: denk | Mar 6 2017 4:40 utc | 166

Since this is an open thread. A not so subtle reminder..
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/03/01/paid-govt-and-corporate-internet-trolls-are-real/

Posted by: ben | Mar 6 2017 5:09 utc | 168

There is a sorceress somewhere down the gurgler suckin a lot in. Pick up the act you lot.
Trump? what is his vision for America and America’s relations with the world? He is obviously an enemy of the neo-con globalist crowd.
He seems to have no intention of ending US$ hegemony.
A US hegemony that benefits Americans? Full on extreme capitalism but something like Henry Ford. Made a lot of money but paid his workers two to three times the going rate?
Then there is his expansion of the US military. Required to maintain US$ hegemony?
A final art of the deal fall back – . Nice country you have there. Pity to see something happen to it?

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 6 2017 5:23 utc | 170

Circe avoids critics, plays the victim.
MoA melts.
Reason and explain all you want, but it is all for naught.
Circe is on a mission.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Mar 6 2017 5:53 utc | 172

Sorry, make that “critique the information.”

Posted by: ben | Mar 6 2017 6:06 utc | 174

@148 blues
I can say that with the time I’ve had to trawl familiar parts of the internet I would tend to agree with your observations. While I might visit some sites less, I refuse to unfollow outlets that seem to have found themselves more than a little misguided over the last 6 months.
What might have labelled itself as the ‘left-leaning’ resistance that railed against issues such as net privacy, freedom of speech, anti-war etc, now seem to be quite ok voting against their integrity in order to beat the anti-Trump drums.
It’s not just the MSM. Seems to me that if everyone is not under one massive spell, then its a complete buy out. The entire corporate capitalist system attempting subversion of democracy via buyout. Not sure if sorcery alone can explain this.
Taking into account such an overt media imbalance, I would see the Trump election as U.S. democracy still alive and kicking – maybe even healthier than at any moment I’ve been alive. That people voted in droves for such an unsavoury character says a lot – millions doing precisely NOT what 90%+ of the bought and paid for media was telling them to do. A industry mind trick broken.
Since November 9th, we’ve not seen any serious introspective, post-mortem from what was the left – which you’d expect, if you we’re bought and paid-for. Instead, we’ve merely seen a doubling down on the same old pre-election mind trick. If Trump is accused of throwing chaff, he’d be doing well to match what the other end has thrown so far.

Posted by: MadMax2 | Mar 6 2017 7:05 utc | 176

@172 James
E: 2008 – it was put to Obama ‘heads I win, tails you lose’ and on behalf of the US people, Obama folded like a cheap tent and ushered the worst kind of socialism imaginable – welfare for the parasitic banking sector paid for by the taxes of the masses.
No one should ever forget that.
@169 Jackrabbit
If one were to attempt corrupt an incorruptible voice of the people (MofA, b), then that is how it would be done.
The catch 22 with our current circus is that while it took a chameleon born of the entertainment industry to partly expose the ‘One Party’, the Trump character is so polarising that it makes it quite easy to bandwagon an attack without too much effort – or reason.
Indeed, the climate is ripe for a seismic political shift…couldnt agree more with your statement @134 re Pirate Party.

Posted by: MadMax2 | Mar 6 2017 7:25 utc | 178

OldMicrobiologist at 101 and NonsenseFactory at 117
The autobio of Judy Vary Baker is almost a primer on subject of bioweaps , as it relives the creation and development of an actual assassination technology written by a vital participant, with all its twisted intentions, misunderstandings and cover stories. And it is possibly true.
Chemistry and physics mixed with misunderstandings and evil intentions have always equally served any users.

Posted by: chu teh | Mar 6 2017 7:35 utc | 180

And I forgot: Russia (Crimea)

Posted by: From The Hague | Mar 6 2017 8:47 utc | 182

@180
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I don’t need to be subjected to a freaking inquisition. I never supported Clinton and encouraged everyone to vote for anyone except her, and couldn’t stand Obama’s foreign policy! ENOUGH ALREADY.

Posted by: Circe | Mar 6 2017 15:06 utc | 184

I’m copying below a comment I posted right BEFORE the election here that proves I was on this site before the election and not after as Jackrabbit falsely claims. I’m doing this so that I can post my opinion freely without all the bullying to muzzle my opinion and all the ad homs against me because I’m critical of Trump. The reason I’m here is because I agree with the foreign policy expressed by the author here. Please let this end now!
Vote for anyone but Hillary. She definitely stated she wants a no-fly zone in Syria. A no-fly zone is a recipe for escalation into full-blown war. Don’t vote Hillary.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/11/07/the-lethal-lie-of-hillary-clinton-saving-lives-with-a-no-fly-zone-in-syria/
Posted by: Circe | Nov 7, 2016 8:22:39 PM | 47

Posted by: Circe | Mar 6 2017 15:35 utc | 186

Here is another one of my comments posted BEFORE the election that proves I was against Obama/Hillary.:
Jackrabbit has been shamelessly lying that I came on here after the election on a mission. This proves he’s only trying to muzzle me with his lies and ad homs.:
Obama has once again been used as the tool of mass distraction with his cute, wise-guy speeches that rouse the masses to secure the Zio-cabal agenda of regime-change wars that Hillary will perpetuate for the next 8 years and until completion of the goal. Liberals and Democrats, when will they understand that they’re sacrificing their children and themselves for this futile cause in the interest of others and once again lured with the promise of social change?
The cabal wants above all, a loyal candidate with wide appeal; they don’t care if it’s a Democrat or a Republican; they only care that the candidate is loyal to their foreign policy agenda and if the candidate has the largest following; that’s a bonus. It’s why the stars were brought in, because Hillary who professes social change, but who is as loyal as they come to the cabal doesn’t draw the largest crowds, but they fixed that too, since her promises to the little people encouraged stars to endorse her foolishly believing they’re doing those little people a favor when in fact, they’re luring them in the thousands to an ulterior cause. These stars have become the pied pipers leading the sheep over the cliff.
Today your children party with Jay-Z, Beyonce, and Katy – tomorrow they die for regime change in a foreign country on behalf of a foreign country and Hillary will pretend they died for the good freedom cause.
Obama’s the fool’s preacher and the best pied piper the cabal could have wished for in their arsenal of weapons of mass distraction.
Posted by: Circe | Nov 6, 2016 8:27:10 PM | 91

Let this put an end to the multiple personal attacks and inquisition! I have every right to criticize both sides and their current puppet.

Posted by: Circe | Mar 6 2017 15:51 utc | 188

>> Well said. The whole jump on the
>> one person voicing a different
>> sort of opinion on here all at
>> once is … cringe inducing
>> Posted by: FecklessLeft | Mar 5, 2017 1:51:22 AM | 93
Yeah…. A few months ago, I defended Circe as “not a troll”. In turn, someone here — whose comments I respect and who does make some sense even when attacking Circe *substantively* — apparently saw my comment and assumed Circe posted his/her own defense as a sock puppet.

Posted by: dumbass | Mar 6 2017 16:03 utc | 190

>>>> From The Hague | Mar 6, 2017 3:44:29 AM | 178

Trump acts like a neocon, so he is a traitor.

No he doesn’t. He talks like a neo-con but that is very different to acting like a neo-con. There has been a subtle change policy in the Middle East.
For instance, in Syria/Iraq, ISIS will be destroyed rather than used to bring about regime change in Syria.
For instance, in Yemen, the US is attacking AQAP.
The talk is a smoke screen to distract the neo-cons, liberal interventionists, Saudi/Qatari PR and assorted other wankers in Washington. So are the accusations against Obama although from the comments made by Obama and Clapper, I suspect there is slightly more truth to them than their accusations against Trump.
Wouldn’t surprise me if after the ISIS Caliphate is liquidated, the US goes after Al Nusrah in Syria, after all they are a franchise of Al Qaeda, the group which murdered more than 3,000 Americans although certain elements in the US including Obama, McCain, Hillary and many others seem to have forgotten about that. I suspect the Great Unwashed haven’t.

Posted by: Ghostship | Mar 6 2017 16:14 utc | 192

I am just now remembering some sage advice given to me by a best friend of my mother at a time in my life when everything was falling apart. Actually, the advice was on a scrap of newspaper she handed me that I’ll try to repeat from memory:
One must picture oneself sitting on the floor of a room piled high to the ceiling with eggs, while in the corner next to you, there are stacked egg cartons, empty. The task is monumental; the eggs are fragile. To look at what’s needed to be done is to become disheartened by the impossibility of the task and to fail.
The solution is, turn your back on the huge pile, take one carton, fill it. Place it against the wall. Continue. Be aware that, inevitably, some of the eggs will topple and break. But keep looking at the stack you are making of eggs safely in cartons. The pile is growing, isn’t it? Yes, it is. Keep looking at that stack.
That is all you are required to do, all you can do.
The US system, which expanded globally, has morphed into an unsustainable morass, a pile of fragile eggs. It almost imploded in 2008, when the first eggs toppled. It has not got better since then. Citizens of countries in the rest of the world are recognizing the danger, and so do they here. Perhaps also the people who got us into this mess know it is about to crash and burn. That’s why they have gone off the rails after the election of Trump. He’s their scapegoat, but they did the damage – instead of putting eggs in cartons in the first place they piled them up.
Maybe Trump can’t succeed. But he didn’t pile up the eggs. With all his faults, he’s a victim of the system, just like the rest of us.

Posted by: juliania | Mar 6 2017 16:21 utc | 194

>> Also, Circe, your term
>> “Expansionist Zionism” is just
>> so LOL. What the f#ck other
>> kind is there? (In the REAL
>> world, not in some book.)
>> Posted by: fairleft
Forgive my ignorance. But, doesn’t “Zionism” just mean “support the existence of a physical home for Jews” whereas “expansionist” of course means “expanding” it?
By those definitions, at this point, although “expansionist” people seem to rise to positions of power in many countries, practically every average citizen of any religion, nationality, and ethnicity is Zionist but not expansionist.

Posted by: dumbass | Mar 6 2017 16:37 utc | 196

@126 Noirette: The dumb fools at Decodex don’t realise that they just painted a huge target on all the green sites. There’s now basically a sizable minority of French people who will never trust anything coming from any “green site”. That wasn’t their intended goal, but that’s what, ironically, they’re going to achieve: there will come a time where being in the green on the main propagandist French site will be seen by most as a badge of dishnonour, and they’ll never be able to shrug it off.
And when backlash comes from reputed leftists like Schneidermann and Lordon, then the “We’re the good guys, we’re Left and we fight for the people to save it from evil conspirational fake-news-peddlers fascists” argument is dead.
As for Macron, how can anyone consider him “charismatic”. He’s no Obama (or Trump) by a wide margin. Of course, one can wonder if there’s any charismatic leader left in France, and I don’t think Le Pen would qualify – which is a difference from other countries.
That said, it’s damning from pretty much every trend-setter and power-broker that it is the uber-corrupt lackey of big banks Macron who’s pushed ahead and gets the wide support from MSM and party traitors, as an alleged “centrist”, when another centrist, far more experienced and far less corrupt, Bayrou, was mostly ridiculed in his previous endeavours. Which is a damn shame, because it would’ve been far better for France to have PS and UMP destroyed back in 2007 than now. This comes way too late now – and was probably very late 10 years ago already.
Honestly, if Macron is actually elected, then it means democracy has been utterly gutted in France. And since he – unlike Le Pen, who would face constant opposition and struggle – would easily find a majority to support him and his destruction of the country and its working people, I fear there would be nothing left for the French, except to get the guillotines out of the museums and to wipe out, literally, their entire political class, then start from scratches with a new system and new politicians. Not that France will soon be the only country in such a situation, far from it, alas.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Mar 6 2017 16:49 utc | 198

@ Jackrabbit | Mar 5, 2017 3:59:43 PM | 134
You said:
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….That is why I urge people to support the Pirate Party.
The Pirate Party advocates a form of Direct Democracy. I hope you will take some time to learn more about them.
\~~~~~~~~~~
I see two insurmountable problems with this approach. Direct democracy would absolutely need to be based on electronic communications systems. And ultimately, the Deep State possesses a multitude of techniques for controlling such systems. Also, from the perspective of political parties, under the choose-one election methods now in use, only two parties can realistically prevail, they may bear other names than the two we have now, but due to the spoiler effect there will be only two. And any two will eventually become captive to the Deep State (this has already happened to the larger European “Green” Parties, which now support military adventures).
There presently exists a vast, futile theoretical election methods enterprise that squats upon perhaps hundreds of Wikipedia pages and supports the efforts of hundreds of mathematicians and political scientists. And the whole project is totally 100% useless, simply because their election methods only function effectively for casual “hobby club” elections, never for elite interest involved elections. I have never ever seen them attempt to take account of the fact that our elections are perennially subverted by the Deep State. Apparently, I am the only one to have specifically designed an election method that, in combination with decentralized hand counted paper ballots, can effectively circumvent Deep State subversion.
I call it strategic hedge simple score voting.

Posted by: blues | Mar 6 2017 16:57 utc | 200