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February 19, 2017

Open Thread 2017-07

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Posted by b on February 19, 2017 at 18:55 UTC | Permalink

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On the issue of Russia-bashing in the US, the Greanville post totally nailed it in my opinion:

Or more accurately, they nailed it by re-posting Robert Parry's original piece from Consortium News, but I saw it on Greanville so posting the link where I read it.

Posted by: WorldBLee | Feb 19 2017 19:17 utc | 1

A friend said he heard that Trump was abolishing the dictum of the 'separation of church and state.' He went on to say to say that heresy laws were just around the corner. My take is that since Circe and other Trump-haters haven't been off the wall on this that it is just another example of rumors posing as news ... .

Posted by: C del Toro | Feb 19 2017 19:18 utc | 2


Just a 'routine' mission but CNN gives it amplified coverage, complete with war p0rn images.

Fake News or foreshadowing?

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 19 2017 19:30 utc | 4

Radiation expert claims Syria is plagued with radioactive contamination

American geoscientist and international radiation expert Leuren Moret says the whole country of Syria is plagued with radioactive contamination because the United States not only used depleted uranium weaponry, but provided it to terrorists fighting against the Syrian government.

Dr. Moret made the remarks in interview with Press TV on Friday, days after the Pentagon admitted that it used depleted uranium (DU) ammunition in Syria, the controversial weaponry that causes serious health problems among the population.

The US military fired thousands of rounds containing mutagenic weapon depleted uranium during strikes against purported Daesh (ISIL) positions in Syria in late 2015, reports said on Tuesday.

Dr. Moret said the use of depleted uranium ammunition is “not limited just to attacking Daesh, or ISIL, positions in Syria in late 2015.

Actually, the US government, the Pentagon has used depleted uranium in Syria from the very beginning, and that would be after [President Vladimir] Putin announced Russia would be assisting the Syrian government in removing the terrorists from Syria.”

With the US government's track record for lying and lying and lying, my guess is that the 5,000+ DU rounds they've admitted to is only a fraction of the actual number.

Posted by: Greg Bacon | Feb 19 2017 19:49 utc | 5

follow-up @3

No, Trump Did Not Back Down From China

When I heard about Trump acknowledging the "One China" policy, my first thought was: BOTH China and Taiwan have a "one-China" policy!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 19 2017 20:05 utc | 6

So I saw this last week and thought it was interesting. DOD seems to be conceding the "Assad must go" line for now but is clumsily rebranding a partition of Syria.
RAND Corp Propaganda

Posted by: duncan_idaho | Feb 19 2017 20:06 utc | 7

Here's another that goes along with Robert Parry story. Deep State indeed.

Now we need to know is were b keeps the liquor cabinet key;-)

Posted by: jo6pac | Feb 19 2017 20:18 utc | 9


In the shredder ... pulease!

Rand Plan II - 2016
Rand Plan I - 2015

Posted by: Oui | Feb 19 2017 20:20 utc | 10

Rupert Murdoch and the intelligence leak ... my oh my, Bibi's good friend ... did B. stab Trump in the back?
Instability in the White House is not what Israel seeks ... just a steady neoconned hired hand!

WhoIs Louise Mensch and ties to the counter-intelligence community!?

Key words: UK – Tory – Hacking – Murdoch – GCHQ – Unit 8200

Posted by: Oui | Feb 19 2017 20:38 utc | 11

The Revolutionary Distemper in Syria That Wasn't

Posted by: Les | Feb 19 2017 20:50 utc | 12

Bibi Nut - There exists sufficient distrust to keep options open for a Trump ouster.

The Zio MSM will not let up.

Bibi knows for certain he can trust the Rethuglican, self-serving, silver-haired stooge in the person of closeted gay Pence.

Possible parallel between JFK/LBJ and these current clowns.

Posted by: fast freddy | Feb 19 2017 20:53 utc | 13

UAE arms show heightens militarism as Yemen war rages on

Australia and the UAE have agreed to consider a 10-year defense plan that could include more than one billion Australian dollars ($767 million) in sales to the UAE.

The announcement was made following a meeting on Sunday between Australia's Defense Industry Minister Christopher Pyne and Abu Dhabi Crown Prince Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed al-Nahyan, who is also deputy supreme commander of the UAE armed forces.

"What the Crown Prince is talking about is a more mature long-term relationship built around security and procurement," Pyne said in Abu Dhabi, adding, "They are looking for genuine partners, not just foreign military sales, and that suits Australia's attitude extremely well."

The UK-based IHS Jane’s had already reported that Saudi Arabia and several other Western-backed Arab countries in the Middle East were purchasing weapons suited for a more offensive military program in distant locations.

IHS Jane’s analyst, Reed Foster, said in the report that the Western-backed Middle Eastern states are purchasing military equipment that will allow them to build “the kind of capabilities required to conduct operations beyond their borders.”

Saudi Arabia had the fourth-biggest military budget in 2016, behind the United States, China, and India.

this is how the war against iran is going to be fought?

Posted by: jfl | Feb 19 2017 20:56 utc | 14

From what country does Saudi A need to protect itself?

Posted by: fast freddy | Feb 19 2017 21:06 utc | 15

Trump Swedish terror attack. Could Trumpista forces be trolling the medias?

Fears of a cover-up have been fuelled by an investigation published by a flourishing online Swedish news outlet Nyheter Idag, showing that Swedish authorities hid from the public sexual assaults by immigrant gangs on scores of teenage girls at a popular Stockholm music festival both last year and in 2014.

The Swedish police and a national newspaper were accused of hiding the truth deliberately because the perpetrators were migrants.

Astonishingly, Stockholm police chief Peter Agren – in charge of the 2014 festival – admitted later: ‘Sometimes we dare not tell how it is because we think it plays into the hands of the Sweden Democrats.’

A group of security guards in the south-eastern city of Kalmar last week claimed a ‘riot’ and attack on a police officer involving migrants outside an Irish bar was covered up.

Posted by: ALberto | Feb 19 2017 21:12 utc | 16

Saudi King Faisal was assassinated a year after making unpleasant demands concerning oil production, Israel and Settlements. Probably was just a coincidence.

This current family of Saudi royals seem to believe that they are true friends with the USA.

There's only one country I heard had an irrevocable bond (in writing by Congress) with the USA.

Posted by: fast freddy | Feb 19 2017 21:21 utc | 17

Apparently the same forces, Bolsheviks, who are flooding US with Mexicans, Germany, France with Muslims, are intentionally flooding Sweden with young male Muslims. The Fake News bit big on Trumps bait reveling in the fact that there was no terrorist attack last evening in Sweden while completely overlooking the attack on Sweden and the citizens of Sweden. As the camera turns toward Sweden we will get pictures of ethnic Swedes being attacked by their own foreign controlled elected representatives.

just me opinion

Posted by: ALberto | Feb 19 2017 21:29 utc | 18

Trump supporters rally in downtown Atlanta with Semi-Automatic weapons. Well Soros and Clinton need watch out what they are doing.

Posted by: Nick | Feb 19 2017 21:33 utc | 19

Priebus, Bannon and Trump remind me of this trio:

Just one clown-car crash-cart day after another, while the Ship of State slowly founders.
Wonder if Lincoln called the press the 'enemy'? Wonder if Washington, crossing the Delaware, boasted about the YUUGE crowds that came out to greet him?

You have a President making business not policy, using his Mar-A-Lago resort to wine and dine foreign dignitaries, then sending the bill to US taxpayers; flying back and forth to NYC or Mar-A-Lago *every weekend* at a cost to the taxpayers of a half-BILLION!!

Then he's issuing rancid tweet fatwahs just for the self-inflating ego boost and free media coverage. The media should boycott Trump! Nobody would miss him! A day without Imperiator Donald's clown cars!! Reagan must be furiously spinning in his grave!

While 50,000 American soldiers were dying in Viet Nam, Trump was evicting the elderly from fixed-income apartments, and partying every night with nymphetes at Club 54!
"Dodging STDs was my personal Viet Nam!" Donald J. Trump

Oh, God, what have you done, America!?

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Posted by: chipnik | Feb 19 2017 21:40 utc | 20

@14 I think the Crown Prince is saying the UAE will never use all those weapons without Western backup.

Posted by: dh | Feb 19 2017 21:50 utc | 21


They are referred to as Likudshevim now, on the Golden Centennial of their overthrow of the Tsar and subsequent slaughter of 30 to 40 million Orthodox Christians, which may not be referred to either as the Apocalypse (TM) nor the Holocaust (TM), because the Likudshevim hold the trade marks on both those brands.

You know, the White Zogs, who claim they are 'just like you, your best friends ever!', then also claim, 'we are the original (sic) Sons of David, the good Semites, not the bad Muslim Semites', even though the Sons of David were all slaughtered to the man by the Romans in 70 AD, and the few remaining Israeli Sephardim have been crowded into gulags, (to the point they have requested political refugee status of Spain), by the former-Soviet Tartar Sons of Ishmael who flooded into Israel after the Soviet Union fell, and are now playing out this absolutely insane imposter charade, conning the world like a Fake Tsarina , claiming they are both Whiter than White, and also the Original Brown Semitic Sons of David!


Which would be fine, that was the Israeli's mistake in 1990, opening the Right of Return to their 'fellows'. What's not fine is the Crypto-Zionists in the US Congress, clapping until their fingernails bled for Netanyahu, clapping for longer than for any standing US President in history, clapping like NK ministers are forced to clap for Kim Jong Un!!

What was Netanyahu doing in the USA giving speeches, staying at Mar-A-Lago on the US taxpayers last life savings, and nobody can say a WORD, because in both EU and USA, it is now a felony to speak out and say, these fraudsters are NOT the Sons of David, are NOT the Chosen of God, and their Jaweh never gave them dominion over the lands and fields of the entire World, only of Be'elzebub's Sandbox, that stinking stretch of apartheid hell between Egypt and Syria.

Posted by: chipnik | Feb 19 2017 22:08 utc | 22

Chipnik@20: Not sure what Lincoln called the press, but he locked them up by the thousands, along with judges, police chiefs, mayors, state legislators and other rabble.

Posted by: woogs | Feb 19 2017 22:37 utc | 23

Lindsey Graham announced today in Germany that "2017 would be the year of kicking Russia's ass in Congress".

Posted by: woogs | Feb 19 2017 22:44 utc | 24

@21 dh

hard to tell what 'the prince' was saying. no direct quotes from him in the article. we have to rely upon pyne. pyne tells us what the prince 'says', as general prayuth tells us what the king 'says' here in thailand.

no doubt the gcc are in debt to the west for their belligerence as well as their weapons. here's an interesting little table on the population of the uae ...

Ethnic groups in UAE (2015)
38.60% Others
27.15% Indian
12.53% Pakistani
11.32% Emirati
7.31% Bangladeshi
3.13% Sri Lankan

... i imagine that 38.6% at the top are western war-mongers and arms merchants?

whoever they are they outnumber the natives by better than 3:1.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 19 2017 23:12 utc | 25

The use of depleted uranium shows the USA neo-cons true colours regarding the people of Syria.
We will give you freedom and democracy....and birth defects and lukemia.

Posted by: Winifred Kiddle | Feb 20 2017 0:01 utc | 26

@25 Assuming there's any truth in that article we learn that Australia and the UAE have 'agreed to consider' a billion A$ deal which sounds kind of vague but I'm sure the Aussie companies involved will be salivating at the prospect.

Presumably the arms will be used to kill Yemenis because I don't see the Saudis and the Gulf States attacking Iran without a major commitment from the US which even Israel has trouble getting.

Posted by: dh | Feb 20 2017 0:10 utc | 27

15th February 1942 marked the falls of Singapore to the Japanese imperial armies during WW2.... rename Syonan-to. To remind Japan and Amerika had forgotten Japanese evils past and repeat a century of foreign brutality against China. Sorrie hastily cut-and-paste packages.. Below weblink more articles in Mothership, YouTube etc.. Please, Bookmarks and share. Thanks..

"Operation Sook Ching was a Japanese military operation aimed at purging or eliminating anti-Japanese elements from the Chinese community in Singapore. From 21 February to 4 March 1942, Chinese males between the ages of 18 and 50 were summoned to various mass screening centares and those suspected of being anti-Japanese were executed. "

Japanese imperial armies committed massive crimes against humanity and reign of terror in Syonan-to equal or far worst than Nanjing massacre. The Sook Ching Massacre in 14 days claimed the lives of between 25,000 and 50,000 ethnic Chinese in Singapore and Malaya... Later years more hidden mass graves found in varies site found around the islands. The figure does not includes allies forces death (The Bataan Death March 60,000–80,000 Filipino and American died, the Bridge over the River Kwai over 80,000 allies troops died from construction of the bridge) in Southeast Asia during WW2 ...

Total 6 Episode here is episode 1.. Eat to Live: Wartime Recipes (Episode 1: Food as Power & Control)

Wake Up, Singapore

Why “Syonan-to” is still painful: S’pore rally demanding compensation from Jap Occupation had 120,000-strong crowd. February 18, 2017

Chapter 3. Statistics Of Japanese Democide Estimates, Calculations, And Sources* By R.J. Rummel

OJS -> The Original Jack Smith

Posted by: OJS | Feb 20 2017 0:16 utc | 28

"Netanyahu believes the advent of the Trump administration means he can expect the world to stand idly by whilst Palestinian rights are trampled and an apartheid state is entrenched. Our task, day-by-day, week-by-week, is to prove him wrong."

From GlobalResearch:

Posted by: ben | Feb 20 2017 0:32 utc | 29

@27 The Australia/UAE arms deal may involve the Nulka missile system which I believe is classed as defensive.

Posted by: dh | Feb 20 2017 1:01 utc | 30

Hello B... what do you make of

"Concerns about a potential, and so far unsubstantiated, nuclear "incident", reportedly in the vicinity of the Arctic circle, spread in the past week after trace amounts of radioactive Iodine-131 of unknown origin were detected in January over large areas in Europe according to a report by the Institute for Radiological Protection and Nuclear Safety, the French national public expert in nuclear and radiological risks. Since the isotope has a half-life of only eight days, the detection is an indication of a rather recent release. As the Barents Observer adds, "where the radioactivity is coming from is still a mystery."
The air filter station at Svanhovd - located a few hundred meters from Norway’s border to Russia’s Kola Peninsula in the north - was the first to measure small amounts of the radioactive Ionide-131 in the second week of January.  Shortly thereafter, the same Iodine-131 isotope was measured in Rovaniemi in Finnish Lapland. Within the next two weeks, traces of radioactivity, although in tiny amounts, were measured in Poland, Czech Republic, Germany, France and Spain.
Norway was the first to measure the radioactivity, but France was the first to officially inform the public about it.
"Iodine-131 a radionuclide of anthropogenic origin, has recently been detected in tiny amounts in the ground-level atmosphere in Europe. The preliminary report states it was first found during week 2 of January 2017 in northern Norway. Iodine-131 was also detected in Finland, Poland, Czech Republic, Germany, France and Spain, until the end of January"

Add to this the amazingly strong northern lights.... indicative of a magnetic discharge - but there was no corresponding sun activity to support it....

Then add to it the weird
“Sudden stratospheric warming has split the polar vortex in two. The polar vortex, which forms and deepens as the atmosphere loses heat to space in the darkness of the long Arctic winter night, was split in two by massive heating from below. (possible explanation... ((A series of intense storms in the far north Pacific intensified a very long wave in the lower atmosphere. Energy on that planet sized wave went upwards from the lower atmosphere around the Himalayas and Tibetan Plateau and broke into the stratosphere, causing major sudden warming.)) It rapidly reversed the strong cyclonic winds in the stratosphere around the pole, creating a central dome, breaking the vortex into two smaller vortices. ..The polar vortex had broken in two (50millibar heights in m) on January 10 to 13"

"Major stratospheric warmings have taken place, on average, every other year over the past 50 years. The physics of these warmings is very complicated... Over the past decade they have happened in December and January, but this one is exceptional on all counts. This stratospheric warming is apparently the strongest ever observed in the first half of January according to the NOAA figure."

By the way... the predicted blast of cold in late Jan in the central US never materialized due to a huge warming across the Arctic which was due to an influx of a massive amount of water vapour... which had never happened before happened on this scale (Rutger's university prof).

Only a few ways to get water vapor into the stratosphere 1) big volcano... 2) unbelievably big thunderstorm... 3) nuclear blast.

Seeing volcanoes and thunderstorms do not create radioactive iodine, ... who set off a small nuclear device? and why?

Posted by: les7 | Feb 20 2017 1:16 utc | 31

"Neoliberalism and the New World Order. IMF-World Bank “Reforms”, The Role of Wall Street"

From Global Research:

Posted by: ben | Feb 20 2017 1:17 utc | 32

les7 @ 31: Strange, thanks..

Posted by: ben | Feb 20 2017 1:20 utc | 34

jfl @14:

The Gulf and Saudi brats will never fight a war w Iran.

But such arms deals lock down Western political support for their misogynist, totalitarian regimes, and keep West fully on their side in their anti-Shia, anti-Iran cold and hot war. The hot war, what there is of it, is done by mercenaries, usually Al Qaeda or ISIS, or one of those rebranded.

Posted by: fairleft | Feb 20 2017 2:09 utc | 35

“Greenwald: Empowering the "Deep State" to Undermine Trump is Prescription for Destroying Democracy”

Published on Feb 16, 2017

Posted by: x | Feb 20 2017 2:28 utc | 36

dropbox... trying to figure out who owns this company is difficult.. i suspect this is intentional.. i see condi rice is on the board of directors.. no wonder snowden had a few things to say about the company..

Posted by: james | Feb 20 2017 2:48 utc | 37

What does everyone make of claims regarding Montenegro? I can't help but notice the article immediately cites "anonymous senior Whitehall officials"...

Beyond that I know very little about this particular situation. But the bad-guy Russian stories really seem to be escalating, as well as the warlike rhetoric.

Posted by: T Maximus | Feb 20 2017 2:59 utc | 38

i like 'storm clouds gathering' work on the youtube channel.. here's one from a few weeks ago Donald Trump's 'Muslim Ban' What You're Not Being Told

Posted by: james | Feb 20 2017 3:50 utc | 39

woogs, that was amazing, but I was disappointed there was no video, until...

the man is a brat.

Posted by: ruralito | Feb 20 2017 3:57 utc | 40

America First Foreign Policy

Next, we will rebuild the American military. Our Navy has shrunk from more than 500 ships in 1991 to 275 in 2016. Our Air Force is roughly one third smaller than in 1991. President Trump is committed to reversing this trend, because he knows that our military dominance must be unquestioned.

and etc. etc..

Posted by: james | Feb 20 2017 4:07 utc | 41

@18, not you too! Have you ever even considered the difficulty of disposing of ~30 million corpses(or, whatever they shoot for). It calls for a lot of mass graves. Duh. So where are they, and why no cries from the anti-Coms to uncover them?

Posted by: ruralito | Feb 20 2017 4:07 utc | 42

SoHo Project links Trump, Russia and Israel

SoHo Project Florida - Tevfik Arif – Bayrock Group - Haim Felix Sater [NYT – 2007] - Alex Sapir, president of the Sapir Organization, a partner in Trump SoHo.

Father Tamir Sapir is one of Bibi Netanyahu's top billlionaire supporters .... perhaps recent visit wasn't a social call at the White House.

Posted by: Oui | Feb 20 2017 5:03 utc | 43

“My statement as to what's happening in Sweden was in reference to a story that was broadcast on @FoxNews concerning immigrants & Sweden.
5:57 AM - 20 Feb 2017”

Natalie Dickinson
“While he has the entire intelligence community at his disposal, President Trump still chooses to get his information from the ultimate source of xenophobic fake news: Fox News. Trump was watching a segment with Tucker Carlson discussing an alleged cover up in Sweden of crime caused by immigration.”
Link to trump-just-revealed-heard-imaginary-swedish-terror-attack

WTF is going on down in the asylum?
Trump reflects on media spiel and he’s at fault?

Posted by: x | Feb 20 2017 5:49 utc | 44


Of course, this Spring, the White Tiger in Crimea will be Amerikanski A-10s, and manpads issued to the Israeli 'Freedom Fighters', pushing 10,000s of Ukrainian conscripts in front of them as cannon fodder, while Orange Messiah and his Tevfik Arifim cuddle up in Floridaviv in short bathrobes. Floridaviv mafia money-laundering on Wall Street began under Reagan, but at this point, as The Witch once said, what difference would it make? The Coup was 1998!

On to Sevastopol for the Party of ordor!!

Posted by: chipnik | Feb 20 2017 6:21 utc | 45

Watch almost every interview by Syrian president Dr. Al Assad since 2011. This latest interviewed and least abusive, two Journalists from French TF1 and EUROPE 1EU. Full text and video below. Enjoy

President Al Assad’s Interview with French TF1 and EUROPE 1

"..The president added in an interview given to French TF1 TV and EUROPE 1 Radio that the west supported terrorists in Syria under the name of “moderate,” but it was supporting the same basis of al-Qaeda and ISIS..."

Posted by: OJS | Feb 20 2017 6:24 utc | 46

Tango Six Three Delta

The Orange Messiah and his Levantim were planning this since their cattle-raising experiment collapsed in the Soviet Union. "A coup by the KGB and Soviet Military." Sound familiar?
On to Sevastopol for the Party of ₪ordor!!

Posted by: chipnik | Feb 20 2017 7:21 utc | 47


Judea Declares War on Germany!

"The Israeli people around the world declare economic and financial war against Germany.
Fourteen million Jews stand together as one man, to declare war against Germany. The Jewish wholesaler will forsake his firm, the banker his stock exchange, the merchant his commerce and the pauper his pitiful shed in order to join together in a holy war against Hitler's people." - Daily Express, March 24, 1933

So that explains Bill Maher and the Gay Trotskyist. USArya is at 1938 right now, and the Likudhim will get their Holy War, you can bet on that. After all, March 2017 is the Golden Jubilee of their Bolshevik overthrow of Orthodox Christianity. Trump will be gone by October, the power of the Talmud compels it!

Posted by: chipnik | Feb 20 2017 7:46 utc | 48

Has chipnik gone full Rufus, or just part Rufus?

Who's HAARPing you, buddy?

Tell us, we won't let em hurt ya no more!

Posted by: Quadriad | Feb 20 2017 8:11 utc | 49

@38 T Max

Mom is reporting events that would be deemed faked if they happened in a reality show.

The entire thing is mostly fabricated. Witness the murder of Prime Minister Djindjic. Serbs know how to murder their leaders when they want to, and consider Montenegrins to be underlings. Russians far more effectively so.

Milo is an extremely soft target. Very poorly protected especially in certain circumstances, which I don't wish to discuss openly. Only Brano Micunovic, the underground boss, is protecting him with threat of vengeance should an assassination on M Djukanovic succeed. So any real attempt to kill M Djukanovic would need to be either preceded, or combined with a genuine attempt on B Micunovic' life, too. There was zero reports of this even on the ground.

Verdict - complete bull*it. Much cheaper looking than the Turkish coup = more likely poorly made false flag.

Finally, Montenegro is too unimportant and Milo is too low on everyone's kill list, unless he starts openly stealing coastal land from the locals, which he is considering right now.

Posted by: Quadriad | Feb 20 2017 8:24 utc | 50

Montenegro Prosecutor's Coup Claims Fail to Resolve Doubts

Dramatic claims by the Montenegrin special prosecutor - that 'unprecedented' bloodshed was only narrowly averted on election day - have failed to resolve doubts about an alleged coup plot.

"On Sunday, Montenegro was prevented from being shrouded in black," Katnic said, dramatically, adding: "Unprecedented terror, bloodshed, was planned."

Bratislav Dikic, the former commander of the elite Serbian police unit, the Gendarmerie is under arrest in Montenegro over the alleged coup plot on October 16.

Posted by: Oui | Feb 20 2017 9:06 utc | 51

Heresy laws? Is this about Christmas i.e. will it be mandatory to wish people 'Merry Christmas' or else be charged as a heretic? Heresy is the US. HeresyRus you might say. Will true believers - Paul, Peter and John to name some heavyweights - be retro-accused of heresy? Does the Bible have to be shut? Freaky, very freaky.

Posted by: Ian Shears | Feb 20 2017 9:27 utc | 52


Katnic basically openly admitted that the Montenegrin police destroyed any potential physical evidence, provided that it existed in the first place.

Bratislav Dikic, a problematic individual in Serbia, could have been in Montenegro for any variety of legal or illegal reasons. Serbians are still nearly 50% of the tourists in Montenegro, and this was happening at the tail end of the summer season.

I will bet you there were at least a few other dodgy Serbians passing through MN that September whom they could have kidnapped (arrested) instead, or in addition, to make the plot sound even more convincing. They were probably too lazy and had to settle for a couple of them. Who were there to take out the entire MN special forces. And the army too. Yeah the Montenegrin army and SF are a joke, but a dozen plotters?

Laughable BS.

As I said. You wanna kill Djukanovic, you don't need to deal with the special forces. Just go for Brano M and then focus on Milo himself, maybe taking out the closest bodyguards if a large cal/hi pen weapons are to be used. The trick is to off the birdies together, or in a close enough succession for the second bird not to get alerted.

Posted by: Quadriad | Feb 20 2017 10:55 utc | 53

@27 dh, @35 fl

how about hezbollah? Hezbollah and Syria will find themselves partnered in any future war against Israel

“Hezbollah and Syria will find themselves partnered in any future war aiming to hit the Iranian proxy in its bases in Lebanon and Syria because they share the same destiny”.

This is what a decision-maker in the Syrian Capital told Al Rai when asked about the reason behind Hezbollah’s escalation threat against Israel issued by Secretary General Sayed Hasan Nasrallah. Nasrallah warned that the Dimona nuclear reactor and ammonia containers in Haifa will be targeted by the hundreds of long range missiles provided by Iran, if Israel decides to go to war against his group.

Iran, Syria and Hezbollah believe the US President Donald Trump is aiming to cripple Iran in the Middle East and is escalating its (for now) verbal attack with the full support of the Middle Eastern countries. This verbal attack may well be translated into serious attacks against Iran proxies in the Middle East but not necessarily a direct attack on Iran. The possibility of a military campaign against Iran is ruled out by Iran’s retaliatory capability, with effects that could seriously damage several countries of the Middle East. It would be more appropriate to attack Hezbollah – it is believed – which represents the main and strongest Iranian arm in the Middle East.

... there's something that might happen and that then might well be the spark that put the whole middle east at war. and with it ...

Posted by: jfl | Feb 20 2017 11:37 utc | 54

Sibel Edmonds lambasts the press for its disinterest in exposing the crooks in usa govt.....
Recent video, she reviews her case and refers to her 'state secrets photo gallery' and looks at how the press has refused to cover any material that would point at Democrats...looks at the cesspool of crooks in

Posted by: Bluemot5 | Feb 20 2017 12:45 utc | 55

There is a great deal of nonsense spread on this site about the alleged number of deaths caused by the Soviet Government. The number of executions they carried out over the history of the country - somewhere between 600,000 and 900,000 is bad enough, but there is an upsurge of posts on the web claiming that 'jewish Bolsheviks' executed 30 to 40 million Russian christians. The only reason for these absurd exagerations is to make the terrible soviet record of executions seem more than the even worse record of the German government. You can not hide 10s of millions of executions. They would have a lasting effect on the population of the country. In fact the Soviet population increased rapidly for all years of soviet rule other than those of the war. This did produce a huge demographic deficit, of the order of 40 million in the short term, growing to around 70 million by the fall of the USSR. I have in this graph projected back the population in 1945 from the censuses of the 1950s using the growth rate of the 1950s and 1930s, and projected forward the 1941 population. So yes there was a huge demographic loss, but it occured 1941 to 1945 and the government of Germany not the Government of the USSR was responsible for it.

Link to graph

Posted by: Paul Cockshott | Feb 20 2017 13:29 utc | 56

We have had the bomb on our minds since 1945. It was first our weaponry and then our diplomacy, and now it's our economy. How can we suppose that something so monstrously powerful would not, after forty years, compose our identity? The great golem we have made against our enemies is our culture--its logic, its faith, its vision (E.L.Doctorow)

yes, it was FIRST our weaponry, catalyst of my awareness, used to annihilate a quarter million innocent Japanese civilians. detonation, fireball, radical change in air pressure, shock wave of nuclear wind, devastation, fallout, more devastation.

Posted by: john | Feb 20 2017 14:58 utc | 57

OJS @ 46,

Thank you for posting the Assad interview with text, highly recommended. Here is a segment that particularly interested me:

"...One of the first contested decisions of Donald Trump is the Muslim ban. It intended to forbid citizens from some Muslim countries, including Syria, to travel to US. As a Syrian citizen, as president of Syria, do you feel some humiliation there?

President Assad: No, no, because it’s not against the Syrian people, first of all, it’s against the terrorists that could infiltrate some of the immigrants to the West, and that happened; happened in Europe, mainly in Germany, and it could happen in the United States. So, I think the aim of Trump is to prevent those people from coming, so he took it this way. Second…

Journalist: So, he’s in the right way, when he…

President Assad: No, no, I’m talking about something we can disagree or agree on as persons, but for me as president, I wouldn’t worry about that. I’m worried about how can I bring the Syrian people to Syria, not to send them to the United States. I wouldn’t feel happy if they could access other countries, I will feel happy when they can come back to Syria, because they want to come back to Syria, the majority of the Syrians left because of the terrorism and the embargo, the Western embargo. So, if I want to deal with that decision, I would ask Trump and the Western countries to lift the embargo and to stop supporting the terrorists. They wouldn’t have problem with this. ..."

Posted by: juliania | Feb 20 2017 15:28 utc | 58


Posted by: john | Feb 20 2017 15:31 utc | 59

Lots and lots of good links provided here, thanks all.

Two, that are MUST viewing IMO, are the ones provided by:

X @ 36, and james @ 39. Please start there. Much relevant info provided.

Posted by: ben | Feb 20 2017 15:32 utc | 60

@55 I don't see any shortage of sparks in the Middle East.....or tinder. The Israelis would love to eliminate Hezbullah but at what cost? If Israel attacks Lebanon again would Iran stay on the sidelines or would it spread to the Gulf? Much damage would be done and it could go nuclear. All I know is the outcome would be unpredictable.

Posted by: dh | Feb 20 2017 15:44 utc | 61

@43 Oui, @45 chipnik

Its possible that Trump may be dragged down by the Russian angle after all. Except its not the Russian government but rather the Russo-jewish mafia which may prove to be the millstone. According to Reuters:

This (FBI) counterintelligence inquiry includes but is not limited to examination of financial transactions by Russian individuals and companies who are believed to have links to Trump associates. The transactions under scrutiny involve investments by Russians in overseas entities that appear to have been undertaken through middlemen and front companies,

The NYT, in an article titled ‘A Back-Channel Plan for Ukraine and Russia, Courtesy of Trump Associates’ states that “a peace plan for Ukraine and Russia, remains, along with those pushing it: Michael D. Cohen, the president’s personal lawyer, who delivered the document; Felix H. Sater, a business associate who helped Mr. Trump scout deals in Russia; and a Ukrainian lawmaker …

So who is Felix Sater? Well it turns out he has been intertwined in Trump’s business dealings since at least 2002 when Tevfik Arif decided to hire him as Bayrock’s COO and managing director.(one Russo-jewish Mafioso hiring another) According to the article referenced below:

It seems that his father, Mikhael Sheferovsky (aka Michael Sater), may have been engaged in Russian mob activity before he arrived in the United States. According to a certified U.S. Supreme Court petition, Felix Sater’s FBI handler stated that he “was well familiar with the crimes of Sater and his (Sater’s) father, a (Semion) Mogilevich crime syndicate boss.

It seems that Felix Sater was up to his neck in organized crime, from stock market racketeering to money-laundering and illegal gun sales, not to mention involvement in the black market for Stinger anti-aircraft missiles for which he received a get-out-of-jail card from the FBI. The company Bayrock served as one conduit for laundering ill-gotten gains of the Russo-jewish mafia via Trump’s businesses, at one time having ‘more than $2 billion of Trump-branded deals in the works’.

Sater is but one thread in a convoluted relationship between the Trump business empire and organized crime. (regarding the peace plan for Ukraine and Russia - what is Sater’s interest and who is he representing (not Trump))

The following article examines the relationship between Trump’s business interests and the Russo-jewish mafia in some detail. While the piece is an obvious smear job attempting (and failing) to provide direct links between Trump and Putin, it is nevertheless illuminating in providing an in-depth look at the sleazy world where organized crime is legitimized.

The Curious World of Donald Trump’s Private Russian Connections

Posted by: pantaraxia | Feb 20 2017 15:49 utc | 62

@Quadriad 49

That comment has all the grace of a jealous teen keying a rival's car in the high school parking lot. Could you offer a little substance, man?

Posted by: steve kelly | Feb 20 2017 16:05 utc | 63

@61 julianna.. thanks for those quotes and in turn thanks OJS @46 for the link you viewed..

thanks ben @63.. i liked it too.

Posted by: james | Feb 20 2017 16:23 utc | 64


See my link above [#11] about Louise Mensch linked to Rupert Murdoch's empire. She is a nobody who broke the story titled FBI 'Granted FISA Warrant' Covering Trump Camp's Ties To Russia on Nov. 7th, 2016.

Of course Murdoch is run by a Mossad agent. See my further links in article. I also posted the 5 billionaires who have Bibi Netanyahu in their pockets:

Netanyahu's 'list of millionaires' - Nr. 1 Sheldon Adelson nr. 2 Ronald Perelman nr. 3 Stephen Wynn nr. 4 Ronald Lauder nr. 5 Tamir Sapir

Donald Trump and Bayrock Group Chairman Tevfik Arif, and executive Felix Sater attend the Trump Soho launch party on Sept. 19, 2007

Posted by: Oui | Feb 20 2017 16:51 utc | 65

Trump may be changing strategy on Yemen in a way that will accelerate famine in Yemen by possibly greenlighting an attack to take over a major port in Yemen,Hodeidah, where the bulk of humanitarian aid (which is still insufficient) enters the country.:

The State Department declined to comment on whether its position on the coalition retaking Hodeidah had changed under the Trump administration. The White House did not respond to a request for comment. But a softening of pressure from Washington on the coalition could prompt them to move forward with an operation to retake Hodeidah, current and former officials said ― and the Trump administration appears to be doing nothing to stop them.

UAE Ambassador Yousef al Otaiba, whose country has been pushing to take the port, has seen his star rise with the election of Trump. Since June, he has been mentoring White House adviser and Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner on Middle East policy.

On Thursday, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson met with the U.N. special envoy for Yemen and his counterparts from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Oman and the U.K. to discuss the conflict. The State Department’s readout on the meeting referenced the U.N.-led process to end the conflict and the need for the unfettered delivery of humanitarian aid. Conspicuously absent from the readout was any mention, as was included in past statements, of the need for a ceasefire in Yemen. State Department readouts are carefully parsed word for word by a team of experts who are cognizant that even a slight change in phrasing can send a meaningful signal.

The Famine Early Warning Systems Network tracks food scarcity worldwide with a one through five scale. Phase five is a famine. Between 7 and 10 million people in Yemen are estimated to be in phase three, the crisis phase. Of that population, at least 2 million are in phase four, the emergency phase.

Anti-Iran hardliners see the war against the Houthis as a proxy war against Iran, but U.S. intelligence agencies intercepted communications showing that Iran actually urged the Houthis not to launch the war.

Now, let me say that I blame Obama for not doing anything to stop the Saudis and UAE in their assault on Yemen and even supply weaponry, but until now the Yemeni people are depending on that port to barely stay alive and if Trump is giving this port operation a nod; he and he alone will be responsible for the catastrophe that ensues. The fact that Trump launched that operation in Yemen recently in cooperation with the UAE where 30 civilians were killed, and that Jared is being mentored by the UAE Ambassador is NOT A GOOD SIGN.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 20 2017 16:53 utc | 66

Immigration to the US, as it is a now bone of contention. Trump! Throw out illegals! (See Brexit, etc. etc.)

History. Note the yuuge surge after 1940 from Mexico, Caribean and South-Central Americas, and Asia (scroll down to graphic):

re. ‘foreign born’ US residents:

— just general overwiews, but if one digs, immigration to the US specially from Mexico has sagged, stalled, since about 5-7? years. (no links.) 1.

Present polemics neglect internal (US) migration. Here some interactive map info.

Missing are …emigrants! (No solid data.) One clue might be those who are giving up US citizenship (stats are fudged so no use.)

1. About 11 to 12 million US ‘illegals’, undocumented workers etc. (who comes in shades of white to gray to black, depending on status, job, etc.) about half are Mexican.

Posted by: Noirette | Feb 20 2017 17:02 utc | 67

@5 The evidence that the USA have this strategy for "DEMOGRAPHIC WAR" is becoming more and more evident. Meanwhile Fukushima is poisoning the Pacific and the northern hemisphere, and no information is released, and fools like Elon Musk talk of going to Mars. Take a look at your beautiful children as there won't be many more of them born.

Posted by: Jocelyn Braddell | Feb 20 2017 17:16 utc | 68

Sad to read that Vitaly Churkin the russian amb to the UN have passed away.
That was a real diplomat right there..

Posted by: ripz | Feb 20 2017 17:34 utc | 69

While on the immigration topic, this link, a critique of the UK gvmt. white paper on immigration (related to Brexit) is not too long and to the point.

For the lazy. Immigration into GB is for a yuuge majority not from the EU. (Commonwealth, etc. see first chart.) GB Gvmt. made no moves to limit immigration from the EU, while they could have, without any diffculty. They chose not to. Nobody forced GB to accept Polish plumbers.

This polemic about immigration is looking more and more like a planned distraction. Divide to rule in a new form.

Posted by: Noirette | Feb 20 2017 17:37 utc | 70

From 69 Circe

UAE Ambassador Yousef al Otaiba - Middle East policy - steal the Yemen port.

Ambassador advising White House adviser - Trump's Israeli son-in-law Jared Kushner on Middle East policy - UAE wants that port.

"Dad, please let me slaughter some Yemeni's and give that nice man a port. - Love, your Son-In-Law Jared"

Posted by: fastfreddy | Feb 20 2017 18:31 utc | 71
Russia's U.N. envoy Churkin dies suddenly in New York
Russia's combative ambassador to the United Nations, Vitaly Churkin, died suddenly in New York on Monday after being taken ill at work, the Russian Foreign Ministry said.
The ministry gave no details on the circumstances of his death but offered condolences to his relatives and said the diplomat had died one day before his 65th birthday.
It declined to comment on reports that Churkin had been taken to hospital shortly before his death.
President Vladimir Putin was "deeply upset" by the news and had greatly valued Churkin's professionalism and diplomatic talent, Russian news agencies quoted the Kremlin as saying.
The New York Post quoted unnamed sources as saying Churkin had been rushed to a Manhattan hospital from the Russian embassy after falling ill with a cardiac condition.
Tass news agency quoted Churkin's deputy Pyotr Ilyichev as saying: "The loss sustained by Russia is grave and irreplaceable.
"Ambassador Churkin remained at his work post until the last minute. He devoted his whole life to defending the interests of Russia and was to be found on the very front lines and in the most stressful posts."
Foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Facebook: "Great diplomat. Extraordinary personality. Colorful man."
Churkin was a pugnacious defender of Russian policy, notably its intensive bombing of the Syrian city of Aleppo last year to crush rebels opposed to President Bashar al-Assad.

When then-U.S. envoy to the United Nations, Samantha Power, accused Syria, Russia and Iran last year of bearing responsibility for atrocities there, Churkin said she was forgetting the United States' own track record in the Middle East.

Posted by: okie farmer | Feb 20 2017 18:35 utc | 72

Wiki Yousef Al Otaiba

His father is Petroleum magnate Mana Al Otaiba, who served as the president of OPEC a record six times.

In July 2010, remarks made by Yousef Al Otaiba, were interpreted as supporting a United States military strike on nuclear reactors in Iran.[4] Al Otaiba’s remarks are reported to be the standard position of many Arab states.[5]

(Like most MSM, Wiki is a CIA shop - see Operation Mockingbird. It's a mainstream idea and perfectly normal to want to bomb the hell out of Iranian women and children.)

Posted by: fastfreddy | Feb 20 2017 18:43 utc | 73

Russia's combative ambassador to the United Nations, Vitaly Churkin, died suddenly in New York on Monday after being taken ill at work, the Russian Foreign Ministry said.

He probably drank too much orange juice:

In people having kidney failure, drinking too much orange juice, tomato juice and other drinks containing much potassium - which their defective kidneys aren't able to excrete - could lead to a dangerously high level of potassium which can cause a cardiac arrest see High potassium (hyperkalemia)

Posted by: fastfreddy | Feb 20 2017 18:56 utc | 74

Mana Al Otaiba
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Mana Saeed Al Otaiba
15 May 1946
Abu Dhabi, UAE
Other names
Mani Said Al Utaybah, الدكتور مانع سعيد العتيبة
politician, economist, businessman, poet, novelist
His Excellency
Moza Saeed Al Otaiba (sister)
Yousef Al Otaiba (son) Khalid AlOtaiba (son)
Mana Al Otaiba (Arabic: الدكتور مانع العتيبه‎‎) was born on 15 May 1946 to Saeed Al Otaiba in Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates. Little else is known about Al Otaiba's personal life. Al Otaiba is the former Minister of Petroleum and Mineral Resources of the United Arab Emirates under the Presidency of Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan.[1] Al Otaiba then became his Personal Adviser until the president's death, after which he became the Private Advisor to Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan ,[2] as well as a member of the Royal Moroccan Academy under King Hassan II.

Posted by: okie farmer | Feb 20 2017 19:06 utc | 75

mr churkin was not mossadied these russians popping off all over is just jolly bad luck what what.
no tel avivers,empire of the city of lodoners or cia pentagram satanists here hare here.
it is not strange spectre like soros conspiracy.
georgi is just an innocent hungarian actor an aging actor queen for the goy 2 minute hate jewisher stein show.

Posted by: charlesdrake | Feb 20 2017 19:15 utc | 76


OMG! I thought you were kidding!

Someone put something in his lunch?

Condolences to his family. This is very suspicious.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 20 2017 19:21 utc | 77

@ripz | 72
True statesman and diplomat indeed - wiped the floor with that viper Samantha Powers.

Posted by: AtaBrit | Feb 20 2017 19:25 utc | 78

Late to the thread but Vitaly Churkin has died. Is it possible he was assassinated? The news reports so far state he died suddenly. I find that strange.

Posted by: David | Feb 20 2017 19:30 utc | 79

...and he died one day before his 65th birthday. I'm very suspicious.

Posted by: David | Feb 20 2017 19:32 utc | 80

fast freddy.. thanks for the updates... i always enjoy your posts btw.. and quotes like this one below..

"(Like most MSM, Wiki is a CIA shop - see Operation Mockingbird. It's a mainstream idea and perfectly normal to want to bomb the hell out of Iranian women and children.)" so true.. doesn't matter, if it is yemen, iraq, iran, syria and countless other places.. the usa has a disturbing history as a warmongering nation..

as for churkin dying suddenly.. it happens, but does sound suspicious... i am sorry to hear of this..

Posted by: james | Feb 20 2017 19:40 utc | 81

older people are more prone to heart attacks right close to their birthday.. i believe this is a known medical fact..

Posted by: james | Feb 20 2017 19:44 utc | 82


He was 65 not 85!

Posted by: Circe | Feb 20 2017 19:46 utc | 83

High ranking Russian diplomats are dying at a high pace. It's hard not think there is an assassination program at play.

Russian ambassador to UN Vitaly Churkin (died at the age of 64 supposedly of natural cause on 20 February 2017)
Russian ambassador to India Alexander Kadakin (died at the age of 67 supposedly of heart failure on 26 January 2017)
Russian consul to Greece Andrei Malanin (died at the age of 55 supposedly of natural cause on 9 January 2017)
Russian ambassador to Turkey Andrey Karlov (died at the age of 62 by gun fire on 19 December 2016)

If we extrapolate this, the next prominent Russian politician/diplomat/leader worthy of his country would die in March.

Posted by: xor | Feb 20 2017 19:48 utc | 84


Yeah, that's a troubling pattern. In Novorossiya, a successive string of separatist commanders are being assassinated as well.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 20 2017 19:56 utc | 85

Remember the prod with the ricin-tipped umbrella? (Markov, Waterloo Bridge, 1978.) The technology has come a long way since those days. For all Trump's legion of private bodyguards and watchers-of-watchers, there are so many tools at the disposal of the enemy. Chavez. Arafat. Kirchner. Lula. Vazquez. Castro. Yeltsin's "drunkenness". Reagan's idiocy. Bush's idiocy. EM pulse a la German Wings, Black Sea Tupolov. Raving Istan-bull gunman with strange elongated finger. Hastings (Cookie Nuland direct hand, I suspect). The laboratories in Langley are making an art form of scientific assassination.

Posted by: Bill Person | Feb 20 2017 20:01 utc | 86

Trump appoints yet another Lt. General as National Security adviser, H.R. McMaster. The MIC is well covered in Trump's cabinet. You'd think war is in the cards and he wants to stock up on Generals. Blech :(

Posted by: Circe | Feb 20 2017 20:04 utc | 87


Don't forget about the poison Mossad squirted into Hamas political leader, Khaled Maschal's ear. Of course, King Hussein forced Israel to provide the antidote. The Israelis specialize in assassinations.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 20 2017 20:12 utc | 88

Xor@87: that's about 2 more than needed for a coincidence.

Circe@90: We've seen the Pentagon and the CIA pursuing conflicting strategies in Syria. Maybe Trump is just shielding himself from the IC, which he knows he can't trust.

Posted by: woogs | Feb 20 2017 20:50 utc | 89

@ xor | 87

I'm of the same opinion, diplomats dont just die in droves like that by accident. There are powerful factions within US (inc. CIA) who want to punish Russia and escalate the new Cold War.

Keep in mind, superpowers (US, Russia, China, etc) have such advanced bio/chemicals weapons divisions, they can easily cause any "natural" death without any trace. Whether its heart attack, cancer, stroke, etc.

Even you can buy drugs in the store, combinations of which could cause heart attack, stroke or w/e. Spec labs can make special solutions for any individual person according to his health weaknesses (from DNA samples, or bribing/hacking doctor files), its actually very easy to do.

US bio division almost 100 years ago learned how to cause cancers, imagine how advanced the tech is right now. Recently there was a huge wave of cancers among non-subservient leaders in Latin America. Chavez before dying stated US caused the cancer, but of course you cant prove that. It just "happened" there were an outbreak of cancers among their leaders. Almost all those countries are back under US influence now. Another "coincidence", I'm sure.

Posted by: Harry | Feb 20 2017 21:11 utc | 90

14, 15 jfl, fast freddy
UAE wants their purchases to count so they make sure there is a support portion that isn't just training and logistics but the US to protect them in the UN and look the other way when they're used.

Bluemot5 56
Edmonds and Corbett are among my favorites in the alt-media arena. (In fact, b could do a thread dedicated only to alt-media sources we can trust.)

Circe 69
Obama did not sit by and let Saudis destroy Yemen. The US supplied (sold) the weapons to the Saudis. The US supplied intelligence for air strikes. And the US refueled the planes. We know this because the destruction particularly the funeral made waves in the press and the Pentagon had to say it was backing away from their support. There is blood on Obama's hands like on his predecessors. Will Trump continue the program of support for the Zio-Sunni alliance? It looks that way.

Posted by: Curtis | Feb 20 2017 21:33 utc | 91

So it's settled then, The fucking CIA did it. Killed Vitaly, those pricks. I mean, how often do seniors drop dead? Not that much when you really think about it. And other diplomats have died too, well there you go, cased closed.

Posted by: peter | Feb 20 2017 21:42 utc | 92

woogs 24
I lived in SC and many of us wanted Graham gone. He gets a lot of money from outside the state and typically has around $4.5 Million "war chest" for elections. And many GOP there still vote for him for some reason. His is the ass that needs to be kicked.

Posted by: Curtis | Feb 20 2017 21:47 utc | 93

duncan_Idaho 7, Oui 10
The good thing about those RAND documents is that the Syrian government controlled zone appears to grow. The one in the first document made it look like the Sunnis controlled most of the country as if they're making the case for the Sunni state as mentioned by the DIA report in 2012. Unfortunately RAND pushes the official agenda with the usual goals. It's disgusting that our government pays for this and gives is such status/power.

Posted by: Curtis | Feb 20 2017 22:06 utc | 94

294 curtis

Will Trump continue the program of support for the Zio-Sunni alliance? It looks that way.

thanks for the one line summary of thousands of circe's column inches.

and especially for supplying the preceding part he omits ...

Obama did not sit by and let Saudis destroy Yemen. The US supplied (sold) the weapons to the Saudis. The US supplied intelligence for air strikes. And the US refueled the planes. We know this because the destruction particularly the funeral made waves in the press and the Pentagon had to say it was backing away from their support. There is blood on Obama's hands like on his predecessors.

... and, of course, on clinton's and the rest of the precedent ptb's, defeated in 2016, openly allied now with the nsa/cia/mic, refusing to take no - on the part of the electorate if not on the part of tee-rump - for an answer.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 20 2017 23:08 utc | 95

@73 noirette, 'This polemic about immigration is looking more and more like a planned distraction. Divide to rule in a new form.'

not unlike the polemic about terrorists and cash, looking flat out as a planned distraction to outlaw cash. subjugate and rule in a new form.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 20 2017 23:21 utc | 96

Immigration goons (ICE) have been set loose all across America. Knocking on doors, chasing down expired visas, illegal aliens. This is one promise that Trump has kept.

It's a sad story. Truly. Everyone has a sad story.

If one can believe statistics, Obama deported more people that several presidents combined before him. Nary a blip on the radar for Obama's massive deportations. (He was a pussy effete liberal you know. Never mind all that killing.)

Any case, Trump's goons have become quite visible and aggressive.

Posted by: fast freddy | Feb 20 2017 23:30 utc | 97

@49 Quadriad, Part Rufus and part The Real Donald..

Posted by: Lozion | Feb 21 2017 1:17 utc | 98

noirette@73 said:"This polemic about immigration is looking more and more like a planned distraction. Divide to rule in a new form."

Yep! Think maybe you're right..

Posted by: ben | Feb 21 2017 2:33 utc | 99

HR McMaster

High Praise from Pat Lang:

I have long considered LTG McMaster to be the best officer of his generation in every way that matters.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 21 2017 2:37 utc | 100

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