Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
February 11, 2017

Open Thread 2017-06

News, views & whatever ...

Posted by b on February 11, 2017 at 14:35 UTC | Permalink


Trump has been blocked from his travel ban, thus highlighting his relative impotency in certain ways. This sort of was done by Obama and nobody would have blinked an eye.

I've heard a forecast from a reliable source whose predictions are nearly always right that Trump will not serve his full term and leave before then perhaps in 2-3 years. Many in the Republican establishment would be happy as Trump is an outsider and not a Republican career politician, they would then get Pence to become president a very mainstream Republican liked by Paul Ryan and others. The question then who would become his VP? Nikki Haley?

Posted by: Muslim Dude | Feb 11 2017 15:01 utc | 1

The Campaign to Retake Raqqa Is Accelerating

Fabrice Balanche February 9, 2017

Posted by: virgile | Feb 11 2017 15:11 utc | 2

Off topic, but then this is an open thread.

To UK readers here a little plug for UK Column.

The British parliament is asking for submissions to its commission on "Fake news", which UK Column has been pushing to its viewers, as in "aren't the BBC and Cannel 4 peddling fake news?"

Good one here from the other day:
with Vanessa Beeley.

Good one at 16 mins on Syrian incubators show on C4, where rebel "nurses" can't even hold a newborn baby properly by the head.

PS Great stuff B. You're doing great work

Posted by: el sid | Feb 11 2017 15:17 utc | 3

Iran re-evaluing its relationship to Saudi Arabia

Great Iranian humour

Top Iranian official says there is no guarantee Riyadh won’t fall into the wrong hands after the ruling system collapses.

Posted by: somebody | Feb 11 2017 15:29 utc | 4

Article on Son (or grandson, etc.) of Stuxnet and its worming its way into banks' systems.

What goes around comes around? So far, seems this new virus is being used to steal the banks' money, not depositors'...but who knows?

Posted by: jawbone | Feb 11 2017 15:38 utc | 5

NBC News last night opened with story that Russians are considering making "a gift" of Edward Snowdon in return for removal of sanctions. Or something.


Footage on how Trump and his ilk want to use the death penalty against Snowdon. Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere. The last entry had its margin broken by some entry...very hard to read.

Posted by: jawbone | Feb 11 2017 15:41 utc | 6

Link for the NBC story on Snowden:

Posted by: jawbone | Feb 11 2017 16:07 utc | 7

Trump I believe has wanted to be president his whole life. It's been something he has talked about since the 70's. He doesn't want war and he doesn't want to intervene in other countries business, he's all about getting business done and he has heard the people.
I don't think he's a racist or any of the other Hitler comments that the hysterical mass demonstrators continue falsely claiming.
I think he will try and perhaps succeed in changing USA.
I wish him the best in attempting to shake things up. I am very excited and I wish thousands of his supporters would finally go out and hold a march in support of him to show him that they believe in him. The poll numbers are really good right now, so he is on the right path.
Therefore all those who think he's only gonna be there for 2.3 years and just give up? I think your gonna be quite surprised after 8 years.

Posted by: Fernando Arauxo | Feb 11 2017 16:08 utc | 8


Snowden story sounds like MSM anti-Putin fakenews.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 11 2017 16:13 utc | 9

On Trump. Two articles, superb examples of the wildly divergent views, by authors not (afaik) infeodated. Read the first one because *left* mentioned, that part was rather disappointing (surprise.)

James Petras: Trump’s ties to the past and resurrection of the left.

Thierry Meyssan: Anti-Donald Trump: war propaganda

Posted by: Noirette | Feb 11 2017 16:16 utc | 10

Is it just me? Or has anyone else noticed that all of the problem regimes in the ME are ruled by Kings? Excepting the Ottoman Caliph of Putz and the Pharaoh hand puppet.

Posted by: ALberto | Feb 11 2017 17:30 utc | 11

If you are following the illegal alien President Trump controversy here in US one can easily surmise that the 9th Circuit suspends established law (8 U.S.C. § 1182(f). From where does the 9th derive this power?

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

Posted by: ALberto | Feb 11 2017 17:59 utc | 12

F A @ 8 said: " I think your gonna be quite surprised after 8 years."

Ya' know FA, there's a huge gap between what candidates say, as opposed to what they actually do. Time will tell about Mr. Trump. Doesn't look good so far. But, it's still early. Hell, if he does something good for the workers of America, I'll be surprised long before 8 years.

Case in point:

I'm STILL waiting for Mr. Trump to oppose the House Speaker on the above issue.

Posted by: ben | Feb 11 2017 18:21 utc | 13

F elections. The PTB, the establishment, hoped that Alain Juppé would win the Les Républicans primary. (The primaries are recent copies of the US system, and very few ppl vote in them in France.)

No soap, Fillon won. Fillon is Catholic, and has made noises about Christians in Syria, and has also spoken up against sanctions on Russia and so forth, and is gingerly >.. pro collaboration with Russia, etc.

Manuel Valls (who is a true psychopath if such a thing exists..) was supposed to win the Socialist primary, but that didn’t fly either, it went to Benoit Hamon, a more ‘leftist’ candidate. (Sanders/Corbyn type.)

So what to do? Discredit and get rid of Fillon, as the most favored and dangerous candidate (center right and so on), via some scandal. Leave Hamon in place, wtf, etc. this guy can’t win anything anyway, useful idiot supreme. (As the ‘left vote’ will in any case be split.) Fall back on the ‘manufactured’ candidacy of the ex-Rotschild puppet Emmanuel Macron.

Hollande’s presidency is deemed a dismal failure, rightly so. What choice? France is under the thumb of the EU/Germany (say) and has for 20 years garnered ‘exceptions’ and ‘special conditions’ etc. because it is the no 2. EU country -- if the F-Germany publically touted alliance shatters that is the end of the EU project.

The exceptions concerned: debt (Maastricht), labor law, protected professions (very big deal), taxes!!, regional organisation, free movement of ppl (not capital), labor law again, refugees and immigants (F basically doesn’t accept any), and generally opening up markets. (Not just sell-offs on the International stage, which happen anyway, see Alstom), but destroying state monopolies like train transport. The ‘new’ labor law was written by Macron, though is is labelled with the name of some young ‘diversity woman’, appointed for that prupose, Myriam El-Khomri.

She couldn’t even answer a basic qu. about ‘contracts.’ Link because it made her a laughing stock all over F - anyone who has a work contract knows this stuff. (in F).

Posted by: Noirette | Feb 11 2017 18:33 utc | 14

Unless B censors this merely because of his opinion that the Duran is evil, this is a worthwhile article to consider:

If B does censor this, I'd love to have him defend his position.

Posted by: C de Toro | Feb 11 2017 19:00 utc | 15

I am of course aware that Moon of Alabama derives it’s name from the chorus of Bertolt Brecht’s poem “Alabama Song”.

Oh, moon of Alabama
We now must say goodbye
We've lost our good old mama
And must have whisky, oh, you know why

But is anyone aware of the reference to “Alabama” in the poem/play? I have been unable to find a reference to Alabama other than the state of Alabama in the US and a few towns throughout the US. And no town by the name Alabama in Germany or any other country.

This is not just idle curiosity. A friend who is Russia and Syria - phobe refuses to read MoA posts by b because he is convinced that the title Alabama is indicative of a racist red neck bent.

Where did Brecht come up with moon of Alabama?

Posted by: juannie | Feb 11 2017 19:28 utc | 16

Test @ 12:

That was a hilarious Q&A session, thanks for providing the link.

No wonder Assad looks tired and somewhat aged when he continually has to talk to idiots like that Belgian reporter (who is obviously talking from a script and not following Assad's responses).

Posted by: Jen | Feb 11 2017 20:19 utc | 17

Posted by: juannie | Feb 11, 2017 2:28:04 PM | 17
The song is part of a Kurt Weill opera "The rise and fall of Mahagonny" which is placed in North America and based on the biblical story of Sodom and Gomorra. Brecht wrote the text very much to the music which is an eclectic mix of references from German classics and popular songs to jazz and blues.
I guess "Alabama" is a Blues reference. You find the way it was originally sung here.

It was written and sung in English right from the start as part of the German opera. Brecht wrote it in 1929 before his plays became distinctly political.

So yes, if your friend considers "Porgy and Bess" racist, then you can consider "Moon of Alabama" racist, too.

Posted by: somebody | Feb 11 2017 20:25 utc | 18

Posted by: juannie | Feb 11, 2017 2:28:04 PM | 17
The song is part of a Kurt Weill opera "The rise and fall of Mahagonny" which is placed in North America and based on the biblical story of Sodom and Gomorra. Brecht wrote the text very much to the music which is an eclectic mix of references from German classics and popular songs to jazz and blues.
I guess "Alabama" is a Blues reference. You find the way it was originally sung here.

It was written and sung in English right from the start as part of the German opera. Brecht wrote it in 1929 before his plays became distinctly political.

So yes, if your friend considers "Porgy and Bess" racist, then you can consider "Moon of Alabama" racist, too.

Posted by: somebody | Feb 11 2017 20:25 utc | 19

Vault 7 - I will not

Posted by: PavewayIV | Feb 11 2017 21:00 utc | 20

Sorry for the double click.

Here is Brecht's/not Weill's inspiration - not so much Blues but American Song - Alabama Moon

Posted by: somebody | Feb 11 2017 21:13 utc | 21

testing 123

Posted by: chunga | Feb 11 2017 21:31 utc | 22

add to 22

Nina Simone version: probably the best and definitively not racist.

Posted by: somebody | Feb 11 2017 22:05 utc | 23

Latest from Donbass:

For those who do not know.
Givi, one of several heroes of the Donbass Defensive Campaign 2014-2015 has been assassinated by fascist Kiev regime and its minions perhaps under orders and bounty from US senators after they visited Kiev on New Year.


Scenes from the site of murder:

More on that on:

Posted by: Kalen | Feb 11 2017 23:19 utc | 24

Thanks somebody,

Gladys Rice’s version has nothing to do with racism and but I agree that Nina Simone’s version is over the top. You’ve offered me good information. I’m appreciative.

I love Skynyrd’s song “Sweet Home Alabama” but their incentive for writing it was Neil Young’s putdown of Alabama, I think.

As someone who can’t quite get past the “America the Greatest, the Freest” and Assad has to be a cruel dictator mindset, my friend responded to my suggestion they he read b’s Feb 7th post “Hearsay Extrapolated - Amnesty Claims Mass Executions In Syria, Provides Zero Proof” quoted me the following:

Some moons over Alabama have been harsh. I’m with neil. and the guy who wrote this song. If he’s truthful about thinking it a sin. blast it once for me brother.

Big wheels keep on turning
Carry me home to see my kin
Singing songs about the south-land
I miss 'ole' 'bamy once again
And I think it's a sin, yes

Well I heard Mister Young sing about her
Well I heard old Neil put her down
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
A southern man don't need him around anyhow

Sweet home Alabama
Where the skies are so blue
Sweet home Alabama
Lord, I'm coming home to you”

This got me thinking that he had not got past the blog name, “Moon of Alabama” and not really read b’s post. The guy is a long time good friend and I can’t figure out his reluctance to get past his culturally imbued ideas. A very common phenomena in America today. It’s frustrating as I’m sure you and others well appreciate.

Thus I want to point out to him that the name of this blog has nothing to do with racism. You have helped. I think one way or the other he will appreciate Nina Simone’s version. Again, many thanks.

Posted by: juannie | Feb 11 2017 23:35 utc | 25

More Than 650 Whales Stranded in New Zealand

Dozens of volunteers and rescuers in New Zealand linked arms in neck-deep water on Saturday to try and prevent a new pod of 240 whales from stranding themselves in a remote bay, where 335 of the mammals died this week.

In total, more than 650 pilot whales have beached themselves along a three-mile stretch of coastline over two days on Farewell Spit at the tip of the South Island.

... i assume these and all the others are the victims of the us navy. anyone know of a solid connection?

Posted by: jfl | Feb 11 2017 23:52 utc | 26

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Posted by: OJS | Feb 12 2017 1:45 utc | 27

Jannie, I think you'll find your answer in the subheading to b's blog: Viz,"Where barflies get together".
Show me the way to the next whisky bar
Oh, don't ask why, oh, don't ask why
Show me the way to the next whisky bar
Oh, don't ask why, oh, don't ask why
For if we don't find the next whisky bar
I tell you we must die
I tell you we must die
I tell you
I tell you
I tell you we must die".

b's being whimsical, nothing more, and the name of the song is an irrelevance.

Posted by: Mr Toad | Feb 12 2017 1:51 utc | 28

Dr. Assad interviews. Always the same old aggressive fucking questions
from the interviewers. Two recent interviews:

Assad tells Belgian reporter Belgium & EU merely obey ‘US master’ on
Syria – English Subtitles

Syrian President Bashar Al Assad: Interview with Japanese News Agency

Posted by: OJS | Feb 12 2017 2:06 utc | 29

context - b started the blog after billmon stopped doing the whiskey bar blog

juannie - your friend sounds comfortable w/ his ignorance - good luck

Posted by: b real | Feb 12 2017 3:45 utc | 30

apologies for seemingly cranky post - actually i think billmon just closed down the comments at that point and the community needed a new meeting place to dissect and opine - will think twice about posting w/ a high fever

Posted by: b real | Feb 12 2017 4:06 utc | 31


Actual Donald Trump Quote (when asked about Iran)

"Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you're a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us."
- President Donald J. Trump

We are so fucked! Bombing will recommence at 08:00.

Posted by: Even More Outraged Ji | Feb 12 2017 5:17 utc | 32

"Alabama Song" (the song) is not a personal favorite, but I usually go with Dagmar Krause for Brecht/Weil/Eisler songs.

I've been grazing on political sites all day, and I wish I had something insightful to say.

Posted by: RudyM | Feb 12 2017 5:32 utc | 33


b took over the website after Bernhard was renditioned to a CIA black ops prison, then water boarded until he gave up the login codes. Andrew Breitbart just laughed, he thought they were joking, so they popped him with a needle and clotted him out there on the sidewalk, getting the site login codes from Shapiro, who caved.

Breitbart is a CIA propaganda site now, run by Bannon, also a psyop 'pinger'. They ping a story, then MoA is a soft hangout that collects the humint that comes in off those pings. That's why the relentless focus on Syria, trying to identify the Syria version of Ukraine's The Saker, who was triangulated, then taken out some time in November of 2016, ahead of a Crimea Putsch this Spring.

For now, Assad is safe, while Netanyahu struggles with his indictments, and Erdoğan struggles to reunite his fractured military. The focus will be on Crimea 2017, and why Kerry, McCain and Graham just visited Kiev. MoA will set up a listening post comments, then Breitbart will start pinging Crimea stories as soon as the Ukraines spring muck is passable.

We have the clocks, but the CIA has the time. That is all.

Posted by: Even More Outraged Ji | Feb 12 2017 5:36 utc | 34

Posted by: juannie | Feb 11, 2017 6:35:16 PM | 26

The guy who wrote the Gladys Rice song George Hamilton Green specialized in white versions of black music like ragtime and dixieland. The lyrics mention "darkies" and "dixieland the music we understand".

It is all part of the story on how white musicians and audiences could not resist black music.

Posted by: somebody | Feb 12 2017 11:51 utc | 35

Posted by: Even More Outraged Ji | Feb 12, 2017 12:17:21 AM | 33

It is a standup comedy act?

Or negotiation 1o1 - act crazy so others have to come up with solutions.

But yes, the US now are basically without government.

Posted by: somebody | Feb 12 2017 12:00 utc | 36

juannie - here the expl. from the site itself..

Posted by: Noirette | Feb 12 2017 12:46 utc | 37

I prefer the song "Stars Fell on Alabama".

Posted by: Jake Bodhi | Feb 12 2017 13:28 utc | 38

My pick for an upbeat MoA jingle would be How High The Moon.
(Les Paul & Mary Ford)

That 1951 song was as spaceage in the '50s music scene as the DS 19 was in the motoring scene in 1955. MoA is similarly ahead of its time.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 12 2017 14:38 utc | 39

The USA and Russia may be on collision course in Al Raqqa. Erdogan seems to imply that he got the USA support to move the Turkish army toward Al Raqqa through Manbij. Russia and Syria made it clear that the Turkish army should not move beyond Al Bab demarcation line.
Either Erdogan have been misinterpreting Pompei, or the USA is ready to dump the successful SDF and confront Russia.
Or, it could also be a US strategy to undermine Erdogan's popularity by setting him in a trap where he may loose further his credibility, thus hampering his chance of a YES in the referendum.
That is the most probable option. Erdogan has shown repeatedly his naivety in foreign policy. He keeps asking the EU and the USA and getting nothing.

Posted by: virgile | Feb 12 2017 15:24 utc | 40

The take-down of the Hollyweird satanic/pedo elite has finally started:

474 arrested in California human trafficking stings, LA County sheriff says |

Posted by: ProPeace | Feb 12 2017 15:34 utc | 41

Former Ambassador to Syria, Robert Ford, was interviewed by Full Measure regarding Syria, U.S. and Russia pivoting to Islamic State/al Nusra battle. The first part is a rehash of U.S. policy on O's red line and the blaming of Assad regime for chemical attack. After you get past that rubbish, the interview provides some detail many here have shared -

Btw, it's only 4:55 long.

Posted by: h | Feb 12 2017 17:40 utc | 42

@35 Funny in an eerily way..

Posted by: Lozion | Feb 12 2017 18:03 utc | 43

Noirette and others,

Thanks for jumping in with the explanations of the name of this blog. I was a Whiskey Bar patron back in Billmon’s days and transferred here to MoA after Billmon closed his bar doors and b opened his. I also reread b’s “About this site” page before my original post on this OT at #17.

But is anyone aware of the reference to “Alabama” in the poem/play? I have been unable to find a reference to Alabama other than the state of Alabama in the US and a few towns throughout the US. And no town by the name Alabama in Germany or any other country.
So my question is not about where the name of this site “Moon of Alabama” came from. I already know that. My question has more to do with the original writing of the song and where did Brecht come up with the reference to Alabama in the title of the song. Had he traveled to the US and the state of Alabama which made some impression on him?

I think I got my answer from sombody’s post at #37. George Hamilton Green an American born in 1893 less than 30 years after the end of the American civil war was a popular xylophonist it is not a stretch to assume he had traveled throughout the south and probably had awareness of Alabama. If he did indeed write “Moon of Alabama”, (Wikipedia claims it was written by Brecht and used in the 1930 opera Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny) that would seem to be a good explanation of a song referencing Alabama by a German poet/playwright.

Close enough answer for me at this time so I’ll let it rest. I do appreciate the contributions of everybody who jumped in. Thank you all.

Posted by: juannie | Feb 12 2017 18:30 utc | 44

Bibi channels Kate Bush after being Trumped in Washington...

Oh, I'm so worried about my love.
They say, "No, no, it won't last forever."
And here I am again, my girl,
Wondering what on Earth I was doing here.
Maybe he doesn't love me,
I just took a trip on my love for Me...

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 12 2017 19:49 utc | 45


So, no Standing OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO's in Congress this trip?

Posted by: Captain Cook | Feb 12 2017 20:15 utc | 46

- Trump being steered back to "endless war" ?

Posted by: Willy2 | Feb 12 2017 22:30 utc | 47

- Neocon Elliot Abrams to be appointed to become Deputy Secretary of State ?

Posted by: Willy2 | Feb 12 2017 22:43 utc | 48

@38 somebody, '... the US now are basically without government'

but not without people to give orders. it does look like the executive has effectively decapitated itself. the congress and the judicial have both been suborned for decades. they're still 'on the job', working 'for the man'. now 'the man' ... the collection of men and perhaps some women behind the curtain in the smoke and boom room ... will run things from now this, now that point within the executive apparatus. it will have the effect of confusing the public ... which will enable ever greater 'innovations' and chances to be taken. the policies laid down 'by the president' used to focus the action, there was a need to present a plausible series of acts consistent with the presidential persona in place at the time. no more. the inconsistencies will proliferate, there will be fights in the s&b room over the levers of power. can't see it ending up in anything good at all. the whole collapse is just picking up speed.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 13 2017 1:15 utc | 49

Good video on the coming war with Iran:

Needs to be shared!

Posted by: ben | Feb 13 2017 1:40 utc | 50

@52 ben

agree that the push is on for war ... and with the observation that the media have transferred attention to themselves and their own constructs completely, and away from the real world ... but only got as far as the part about the iran nuclear deal being purposefully a 'bad' deal for the us before i lost interest. i think i've lost touch with my brothers and sisters back home in the usa.

by that reasoning, the election of djt, too, looks like a purposefully 'bad deal' so that we'll all be ready for 'someone ... anyone' else: the resuscitation of those who cannot now even be named - a la circe - the democrat party.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 13 2017 4:38 utc | 51

@53 - jfl.. when has it ever not been a 'push for war'? seriously.. i don't know it in my lifetime, especially emanating from the usa... i was born in 56..

Posted by: james | Feb 13 2017 4:54 utc | 52

Posted by: Captain Cook | Feb 12, 2017 3:15:08 PM | 48
(Bibi's next standing ovation?)

I'm hoping there will be. It'll make Trump's fury at CIA HQ look mild in comparison.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 13 2017 6:04 utc | 53

@54 james

well there is the ever present preparation for war and then there is the push for a particular war, like obomba's failed red-line in syria, and the successful buildup and push for the invasion and destruction of iraq in 2003. you might observe that, regardless the failure of the push for overt intervention obomba wanted in syria, his overall goals of death, devastation, and destruction there were still obtained ... and that's germane to the imagined war against iran as well. will the war, if it does precipitate, be more like iraq, or more like syria?

i'd imagine it will be more like syria ... mercenary terrorists, aid by 'righteous', western, xtian countries? it seemed to me that paveway was/is ready for overt american involvement in iran. it's hard for me to imagine anyone lending a a hand there, everyone else wants to do business with iran. so i would think that the us, israel, and the gcc are more or less on their own here. and their method has been the 'covert' proxy method. very successful if the goal is restricted to ddd&d. the gccs and israel literally have everything to lose in a war with iran, covert or overt. to the us ... it's all just, as ever, another one 'over there'.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 13 2017 6:25 utc | 54

@55 hoarse, 'It'll make Trump's fury at CIA HQ look mild in comparison'

i guess we each saw that from a much different angle.

i think it'll precipitate a replay of tee-rump's despicable belly-crawl before the aipac, more likely.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 13 2017 6:29 utc | 55

Why do we continue to read this prince, that royal family, the crown prince, the king, when referencing the oil sheiks? Why? They are not royal. They are dominators. They are enslavers. America continues to support these fakes. Please writers, use another way of describing them but not royal. They usurp the wealth of 300 million Arab Muslim and Christian peoples. This is not right. This is not just. Yet, America continues to support the sheiks with weapons and training and what we have ended up with is alquaida, isis, al-nusra...terrorists who for the most part aren't Arab at all but foreign killers hired to kill innocent people. The people of Lebanon, Syria, Palestine, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, and Afghanistan, did not deserve the fate of 4 million dead and their nations destroyed. Talk about a holocaust. This is a real holocaust. It is exactly like the holocaust perpetrated against the people of Vietnam....8 million dead and destroyed nations. Remember that there is a God above and he knows who the villains really are.

Posted by: charles | Feb 13 2017 15:59 utc | 56

February 9, 2017
Empire Files: US-Russia Relations in "Most Dangerous Moment"

Dr. Stephen Cohen tells host Abby Martin that the real alarming danger today is "a new, multi-front Cuban missile crisis."

Posted by: ben | Feb 13 2017 16:27 utc | 57

@ 60 & 61: Examine these in numerical order, and it'll highlight the importance of Mr. Trumps assumed detente with Russia. Let's all hope the Trump outreach to Russia is REAL.

Posted by: ben | Feb 13 2017 16:54 utc | 58


President Trump and Prime Minister of Japan Abe stand in front of ONE US Flag and ONE Japanese Flag.

The NeoCons always pose in front of at least a dozen US Flags. It made Bu$h II look like less of a Commissioned Officer Military Deserter. NOT!

This is a very important sign. Basically telling the citizens that 'realpolitic' has returned and that the system of ideological neonilism is a relic of the past.

Trump and his forces are for REAL.

Posted by: ALberto | Feb 13 2017 17:36 utc | 59

Russian jets hammer ISIS with nonstop airstrikes in east Aleppo

Russian jets traveled from the Hmaymim Military Airport in southwest Latakia to the Aleppo Governorate tonight in order to aid the Syrian and Turkish armies currently battling with the Islamic State forces in the Al-Bab Plateau and Deir Hafer Plain.

... the russians and the turks are fighting daesh and the turks are fighting the syrians. the russians and the syrians are fighting daesh and the syrians are fighting the turks. erdogan must feel delighted and assad must feel betrayed.

... according to daesh' amaq news agency ...

Islamic State repels Turkish Army offensive east of Al-Bab city

The news agency also added that 20 Turkish and American air raids were conducted over Al-Bab on Monday ...

... the russians and americans are finally fighting daesh together? in support of the turkish invasion and occupation of syria?

Syrian War Report – February 13, 2017: Al-Qaeda Advances In Daraa As Govt Forces Prevail On ISIS Near Al-Bab

In al-Bab, the Turkish army and the FSA seized the northern and southern entrances into the town. ... According to the Russian Defense Ministry, Ankara and Damascus had agreed on a demarcation line in the area. So, the Syrian army will not enter al-Bab after the liberation of Tadif near its southern gates ...

... sounds like the russians have 'awarded' al-bab to the turks. had the 'courtesy' to tell assad and the syrians after the fact.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 13 2017 23:52 utc | 60

- Blueprint for a collapse of the Syrian government ????

Posted by: Willy2 | Feb 14 2017 16:23 utc | 61

The following is a report about another president:

BEIJING, Feb. 13 (Xinhua) -- President Xi Jinping on Monday told leading officials to practice strict self-discipline and eliminate special privileges.

Xi made the remarks when addressing the opening session of a workshop on the Sixth Plenary Session of the 18th Communist Party of China (CPC) Central Committee. The workshop at the Party School of the CPC Central Committee was attended by senior provincial and ministerial officials.

The opening session was presided over by Premier Li Keqiang. Other leaders including Zhang Dejiang, Yu Zhengsheng, Liu Yunshan, Wang Qishan and Zhang Gaoli were also present.

Xi, who is also general secretary of the CPC Central Committee and chairman of the Central Military Commission, said implementing the decisions of the plenum would have far-reaching and profound significance for both the Party and socialism with Chinese characteristics.

Xi urged leading cadres to "build a fence" against special privileges to prevent themselves and those around them from abusing power.

Leading officials should use their power "impartially, cautiously and legally," Xi said in his speech.

The CPC Central Committee held the workshop to help senior provincial and ministerial officials understand two documents, one on the norms of political life within the Party in the new era, and a regulation on intra-Party supervision, which were approved by last year's plenum.

"Leading officials should strengthen their political capability, firm their political ideals, uphold political direction, be steadfast in their stance and strictly observe political rules," Xi said, stressing they should enrich their political experience and match their political capability with the positions they were holding.

Xi said upholding the authority of the CPC Central Committee with strict observance of orders and rules was related to the future and fate of the Party and the nation as well as the fundamental interests of all people across the nation.

Xi called on all Party members to become more aware of the need to uphold political integrity, keep in mind the bigger picture, follow the CPC as the core of the Chinese leadership, and act consistently with CPC Central Committee policy.

Safeguarding the authority of the CPC Central Committee and the centralized and unified leadership chimed with democratic centralism, Xi stressed.

The Party sets great store by intra-Party democracy, as all major decisions follow strict processes, and are informed by wide opinions and suggestions, Xi said.

Strengthening and regulating political life within the Party requires the correct political direction, and advancing with the times, said Xi, who also stressed principles of political life and its spirit of holding firmly to the truth and rectifying errors.

Self-development is the most distinctive characteristic of the Party, and its biggest advantage, because the CPC has no interests of its own except for the interests of the country, the nation and the people, according to Xi.

Xi said leading officials, especially those in senior roles, must strengthen their self-discipline, be discreet when being alone and on small matters. They should ensure their words and deeds are in line with the Party constitution, and embody the Party spirit in all that they do.

Xi called for thorough study of the two documents adopted at the key CPC session, which were designed to address outstanding contradictions and problems within the Party.

While addressing the workshop, Xi stressed that Party organizations at all levels must improve inspections and ensure accountability. He also underscored that high-raking cadres should take the lead in complying with the Party's code of conduct.

Li Keqiang called on leading officials to uphold the authority of the CPC Central Committee, improve intra-Party political life and work to build a cleaner political environment.

Li said leading cadres must unite closely around the CPC Central Committee with Comrade Xi Jinping as the core, boost reform and development, work hard, and greet the 19th National Congress of the CPC with achievements across the board.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 15 2017 6:11 utc | 62

This is a really important story - barely mentioned anywhere but nakedcapitalism links, and only a few comments there as well.

One great judge!

Posted by: juliania | Feb 15 2017 19:28 utc | 63

US strikes, Daesh sabotage on key dam threaten floods in Syria: UN

all the furor in washington is the perfect time for war crimes abroad. the us and their al-cia-duh/daesh right arm are preparing for it in syria?

Posted by: jfl | Feb 16 2017 2:02 utc | 64

@63 juliana

thanks for the link. i was unaware of the case or the ruling.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 16 2017 2:03 utc | 65

@62 psycho

here's the link you failed to provide Xi orders leading officials to fight special privilege. much shorter, isn't it?

Posted by: jfl | Feb 16 2017 2:06 utc | 66


nice picture of your mainman, too.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 16 2017 2:08 utc | 67

'Dear Imperial murkka:
the lifestyle you ordered is permanently out of stock.The banquet of consequences has already been served, and will only become more distasteful the longer we put off facing our skyrocketing debt, runaway elites and delusions of grandeur head-on.'

Posted by: denk | Feb 16 2017 3:19 utc | 68

Posted by: jfl | Feb 12, 2017 8:15:11 PM | 49

Looking at Trump's twitter account - that actually is a great tool of getting messages out without the media - he concentrates on deregulation and rallying his constituency.

It is the recipe for anarchy.

Even assuming that political figure heads are cosmetic to the deep administrative structures that work through the decades to further their interests, these structures are bound to work against each other without effective coordination. And they need the political figure heads, the senate, congress for funding, backing, contracts, agreements etc.

They need the taxation.

They are trying to tax the US empire now eg. force Europe to increase payments for NATO, pay tariffs for exportation.

It would be the run up to World War III, the only thing that might save us is assured mutual destruction.

Posted by: somebody | Feb 16 2017 11:28 utc | 69

Germany heading for a collision course with the US.

Posted by: somebody | Feb 16 2017 11:35 utc | 70

@70 somebody

interesting article. germany had better get russia on its side if it wants to take on the us. i don't imagine it has friends left in europe. germany-russia would be a pretty potent combination.

@69, 'They need the taxation'

yeah they do ... they're just trying to disintermediate governments and take a bite of - tax - every transaction on earth themselves.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 16 2017 13:52 utc | 71

Posted by: jfl | Feb 16, 2017 8:52:58 AM | 71

It is an election year. Merkel's defense minister has come out in favor of US demands to raise German contributions to NATO.

Social Democrats came out against.

If there is a distance in transatlantic relations, it will be Social Democrats who do it.
They also remembered "economic justice" as their main motif this election year.

For the first time since Schröder, they got a real chance to form the government.
The end of Schäuble would be the end of a lot of German problems in the EU.

Posted by: somebody | Feb 16 2017 14:42 utc | 72

You are welcome, jfl@65 - comments at nakedcapitalism said they could find only 17 references on a search, so you are not alone. Do you think we could have a do-over? It's an extraordinary ruling that nobody's talking about, and maybe some of the hysterics going on are an attempt to camouflage it.

If indeed out of desperation the American people elected a person not qualified for the job and so open to being forced to do what he doesn't want to do, as now seems to be openly happening with a disregard for the Constitution that is mindboggling, so that even the people we have considered to be trustworthy upholders of the state have to bow to the usurpers in a self-evident coup, the only way out seems to be to walk back many of the horrors which have led us to this place, starting with going back to open debates conducted by non partisan, non media, people oriented organizations. ( I'd suggest members of the Occupy community - they're out there! It would be a fitting apology to them for the atrocities they endured to appoint them permanent overseers of electoral matters, since we know they kept themselves as much as possible neutral agencies for real change, which is what made them so dangerous to the ptb.)

Along with that, paper ballots counted in local precincts, and we're on the way back to having a real democracy. With absolutely no concern about how long it takes, just that it is done right.

Sure, I'm dreaming, but I'm dreaming about single payer for my kids and grandkids also, along with those jobs Trump promised. And lets really help our neighbors, the countries south of the border, so that their people can stay in their homes if they want to, with a reasonable immigrant policy that allows those who can make a living at it to come north and pick our fruit at harvest time. They are good people; I know; I've worked with them and we are a Spanish-speaking state, New Mexico, proud of that heritage.

Gosh, there's so much we could be doing with a stable electoral policy and the people's choice.

Posted by: juliania | Feb 16 2017 14:59 utc | 73

...Not to mention NO MORE WAR! Now, that's a march I would join.

Posted by: juliania | Feb 16 2017 15:05 utc | 74

@71 "germany-russia would be a pretty potent combination"

Indeed it would. It would scare Poland and the Baltics to death. France and Britain wouldn't be thrilled either.

Posted by: dh | Feb 16 2017 15:57 utc | 75

Tillerson Has Awkward First Encounter With Lavrov at G-20

As Tillerson began to speak, journalists got a swift signal to exit the room. The episode irked Lavrov, who openly wondered why U.S. aides pushed out Russian and American reporters without allowing them to listen to the rest of the opening remarks.

“Why did you shush them out?” Lavrov said.

Lavrov And Tillerson Discuss Situation In Syria, Ukraine

“On all those issues, our American colleagues said they’re interested in joining the efforts that are made to overcome those conflicts,” Lavrov told journalists, adding that the sides “confirmed mutual interest, coinciding interests, first of all regarding the outright battle against terrorism and the political settlement in Syria,” as well as cooperation on other nations in the region “where terrorism took root.”

“As we search for new common ground we expect Russia to honor its commitment to the Minsk agreements and work to de-escalate violence in Ukraine,” the US Secretary of State said after the meeting.

Putin urges FSB to counteract Ukrainian terrorism and foreign destabilization efforts

Putin explained: “We have recently seen a serious deterioration of the situation in South-East Ukraine. The aim of this escalation is obvious: to disrupt the Minsk Agreements. Today’s government in Ukraine is clearly not ready for a peaceful resolution of this complicated problem and is betting on a coercive solution. Moreover, they are openly talking about the organization of sabotage and terroristic, subversive work, including in Russia. This cannot but disturb us.”

Syrian War Report – February 16, 2017: Pentagon To Deploy Conventional Ground Forces To Syria?

On February 16, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff Joseph Dunford and Chief of Russia’s General Staff Valery Gerasimov was set to hold a meeting in Baku. The agreed agenda included discussion of the military cooperation between Russia and the US, as well as issues of prevention of incidents related to the military activities of the parties. The possible deployment of US ground troops to Syria, a military situation over al-Bab and the Kurdish-Turkish tensions were also clearly set to be a part of the agenda.

Tulsi Gabbard vs. ‘Regime Change’ Wars

We need representatives to sift through what the U.S. government says and what the media reports to find out for themselves the truth, the shades of truth and the untruths.

We need representatives willing to take the heat from both their fellow members of Congress and from the media pundits who will not go to those areas and talk with those directly affected by U.S. actions. We need representatives who will be our eyes and ears to go to places where most citizens cannot go.

On Dec. 8, 2016, she introduced a bill entitled the “Stop Arming Terrorists Act” which would prohibit the U.S. government from using U.S. funds to provide funding, weapons, training, and intelligence support to extremists groups, such as the ones fighting in Syria – or to countries that are providing direct or indirect support to those groups.

i suppose there are still a few hits left in the hopium bowl ... from the army? don't see any hope from the republicrats, if tee-rump and tee-rex are republicrats ... there's certainly none to be had from dnc/nsa/cia. i quit smoking in 1990.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 17 2017 0:53 utc | 76

oh well a grifter has got to grift.

come patriots go to the rally and be good and buy merchandise. MAGA>>>>>>for real or else its the ww3.

Posted by: Sabine | Feb 17 2017 6:28 utc | 77

edit to 77 link should be leading to Craig list ad for patriots to show up and help the Grifter in Chief campaigining by buying his campaing merchandise. Cause that is totally legal, and as said before a grifter has got to grift, and all that work is hard, and some poor schmuck has got to buy Donalds stuff.

Posted by: Sabine | Feb 17 2017 6:31 utc | 78

@73 juliana, '... starting with going back to open debates conducted by non partisan, non media, people oriented organizations. ( I'd suggest members of the Occupy community ...'

i'd be happy if the league of women voters took it back from the godfathers of the republicrat/demoblican parties ...

'paper ballots counted in local precincts, and we're on the way back to having a real democracy ... just that it is done right.'

absolutely. democracy is not rocket science. implementing it is not hard. we all know what's required. the hard part is standing up and doing it, sweeping the r/d criminals out the door.

and even that's not so hard. once we begin it'll be fun, the greatest reality high most of us will have ever experienced. the idea is just to do it. in our precincts. build a platform ... democracy itself is what we can all agree on, and no more war ... interview candidates, start casting paper ballots and counting them, run our own primaries until we pick some winners.

rinse and repeat ... 2018, 2020, 2022, 2024, 2026, 2028 ... all those novembers are going to arrive whether we rise to meet them or not.

it must be obvious to us all by now that the freaks in ac/dc are the problem. you're not dreaming at all. it's eminently do-able.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 17 2017 13:52 utc | 79

Yes, jfl, it is really simple isn't it? Back at the turn of the century when the Supremes made that shocking decision (I was driving home from work listening to my car radio, almost went over the escarpment) I think it was Justice Kennedy who predicted dark days ahead. Little did we know how dark. I think that's when our democracy died. When those men in brooks brothers suits stormed the room where the little old ladies were doing their best to count ballots in Florida, that was the coup the Supremes endorsed; right then and there it happened.

Some day our children's children's children will learn the history of those times because they are as vivid now as was the Revolutionary War in old timers' memories then.

Memory eternal.

Posted by: juliania | Feb 17 2017 18:19 utc | 80

Katherine Harris! See, I haven't lost it! ;)

Posted by: juliania | Feb 17 2017 18:21 utc | 81

Trump's very own FF ?

ISIS [aka CIA] terrorism in PaK, [1]

kiM Jong Un's bro Kim jong nam murdered in Malaysia,
allegedly by NK agents .


Posted by: denk | Feb 19 2017 2:39 utc | 82

@ Posted by: denk | Feb 18, 2017 9:39:04 PM | 82

Wow. Quality source/link. Not. (E5)

MOA appears to be being inundated with exceptionally dubious articles & links of late ... case in point, from the above:

Julian Assange is the leading head of the Israeli intelligence Hydra known as Wikileaks.




Now the last one, the marvelous lumpen of tripe written by Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed is quite remarkable, a truly wordy classic piece of Psyop drivel.

Yet even more interesting is the author, Ahmed himself. A more than superficial investigation of this 'gentleman,' would likely be a classic case study.

IMHO, Ahmed spent thirteen years supervised, crafting a supposed progressive, environmentalist, anti-authority persona and superficial credentials, as a deep cover, before being accepted as one of the first five inaugural intake in 2013 into the ATLANTIC COUNCIL's Youth Atlanticist program (Millenium Leadership Program). A program for developing future world leader's under 35 ...

Yes, that Atlantic Council. You know, the director's of which include Judith A. Miller, Zalmay M. Khalilzad, Alan H. Fleischmann, Ronald M. Freeman, etc. The list of Lifetime Directors is even more fascinating & most illuminating.

July 29, 2013
The Europe We Would Like to Inherit: Toward a Visionary New Pragmatism
In this report from the Council's Young Atlanticist Program, five rising European leaders present their vision for a reenergized Europe that is capable of addressing new challenges in the twenty-first century and playing a positive role in global affairs...

Muddassar Ahmed is founding chief executive of Unitas Communications Ltd. in London; Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed is director of The Concordia Forum and founding executive director of the UK-based Institute for Policy Research & Development ...

Note: Ahmed & Ahmed also collaborate in Unitas Communications, amongst others, how convenient ...

The Concordia Forum presents as a classic covert front organization for recruitment/suborning activists and influence peddling. The Institute for Policy Research & Development(IPRD) has even less credibility than the Syrian Observatory of Human Rights (SOHR).

It's 2017, yet the poor tradecraft/methods of 40-50's years ago have not increased in sophistication one jot ... far, far, too much emphasis on SIGINT, one supposes.

What say you Denk(?) ?

Posted by: Outraged | Feb 19 2017 3:50 utc | 83


you are fast reader outrage,
i confess , didnt even read the whole stuff !!

*Julian Assange is the leading head of the Israeli intelligence Hydra known as Wikileaks.

i have been saying wiki is cia psyop.


didnt come to that part ,
no comment.


mk ultra is real.


trump./clinton are both deep state front man

*Yet even more interesting is the author, Ahmed himself. A more than superficial investigation of this 'gentleman,' would likely be a classic case study.*

not familiar about him.

what pique my interest about this article is,

CIA/RAW/MOSSAD sponsored terrorism in APAK,
the latest terrorism attack is highly plausible
another FF

Posted by: denk | Feb 19 2017 4:31 utc | 84

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