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February 11, 2017
Open Thread 2017-06
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Trump has been blocked from his travel ban, thus highlighting his relative impotency in certain ways. This sort of was done by Obama and nobody would have blinked an eye. Posted by: Muslim Dude | Feb 11 2017 15:01 utc | 1 The Campaign to Retake Raqqa Is Accelerating Posted by: virgile | Feb 11 2017 15:11 utc | 2 Off topic, but then this is an open thread. Posted by: el sid | Feb 11 2017 15:17 utc | 3 Iran re-evaluing its relationship to Saudi Arabia
Posted by: somebody | Feb 11 2017 15:29 utc | 4 Article on Son (or grandson, etc.) of Stuxnet and its worming its way into banks’ systems. Posted by: jawbone | Feb 11 2017 15:38 utc | 5 NBC News last night opened with story that Russians are considering making “a gift” of Edward Snowdon in return for removal of sanctions. Or something. Posted by: jawbone | Feb 11 2017 15:41 utc | 6 Link for the NBC story on Snowden: Posted by: jawbone | Feb 11 2017 16:07 utc | 7 Trump I believe has wanted to be president his whole life. It’s been something he has talked about since the 70’s. He doesn’t want war and he doesn’t want to intervene in other countries business, he’s all about getting business done and he has heard the people. Posted by: Fernando Arauxo | Feb 11 2017 16:08 utc | 8 @jawbone Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 11 2017 16:13 utc | 9 On Trump. Two articles, superb examples of the wildly divergent views, by authors not (afaik) infeodated. Read the first one because *left* mentioned, that part was rather disappointing (surprise.) Posted by: Noirette | Feb 11 2017 16:16 utc | 10 Is it just me? Or has anyone else noticed that all of the problem regimes in the ME are ruled by Kings? Excepting the Ottoman Caliph of Putz and the Pharaoh hand puppet. Posted by: ALberto | Feb 11 2017 17:30 utc | 11 If you are following the illegal alien President Trump controversy here in US one can easily surmise that the 9th Circuit suspends established law (8 U.S.C. § 1182(f). From where does the 9th derive this power? Posted by: ALberto | Feb 11 2017 17:59 utc | 12 F A @ 8 said: ” I think your gonna be quite surprised after 8 years.” Posted by: ben | Feb 11 2017 18:21 utc | 13 F elections. The PTB, the establishment, hoped that Alain Juppé would win the Les Républicans primary. (The primaries are recent copies of the US system, and very few ppl vote in them in France.) Posted by: Noirette | Feb 11 2017 18:33 utc | 14 Unless B censors this merely because of his opinion that the Duran is evil, this is a worthwhile article to consider: http://theduran.com/vladimir-putin-intervenes-fake-news-debate/ Posted by: C de Toro | Feb 11 2017 19:00 utc | 15 I am of course aware that Moon of Alabama derives it’s name from the chorus of Bertolt Brecht’s poem “Alabama Song”. Posted by: juannie | Feb 11 2017 19:28 utc | 16 Test @ 12: Posted by: Jen | Feb 11 2017 20:19 utc | 17 Posted by: juannie | Feb 11, 2017 2:28:04 PM | 17 Posted by: somebody | Feb 11 2017 20:25 utc | 18 Posted by: juannie | Feb 11, 2017 2:28:04 PM | 17 Posted by: somebody | Feb 11 2017 20:25 utc | 19 Sorry for the double click. Posted by: somebody | Feb 11 2017 21:13 utc | 21 add to 22 Posted by: somebody | Feb 11 2017 22:05 utc | 23 Latest from Donbass: Posted by: Kalen | Feb 11 2017 23:19 utc | 24 Thanks somebody,
This got me thinking that he had not got past the blog name, “Moon of Alabama” and not really read b’s post. The guy is a long time good friend and I can’t figure out his reluctance to get past his culturally imbued ideas. A very common phenomena in America today. It’s frustrating as I’m sure you and others well appreciate. Posted by: juannie | Feb 11 2017 23:35 utc | 25 More Than 650 Whales Stranded in New Zealand
… i assume these and all the others are the victims of the us navy. anyone know of a solid connection? Posted by: jfl | Feb 11 2017 23:52 utc | 26 @el sid | Feb 11, 2017 10:17:08 AM | 3 Posted by: OJS | Feb 12 2017 1:45 utc | 27 Jannie, I think you’ll find your answer in the subheading to b’s blog: Viz,”Where barflies get together”. Posted by: Mr Toad | Feb 12 2017 1:51 utc | 28 Dr. Assad interviews. Always the same old aggressive fucking questions Posted by: OJS | Feb 12 2017 2:06 utc | 29 context – b started the blog after billmon stopped doing the whiskey bar blog Posted by: b real | Feb 12 2017 3:45 utc | 30 apologies for seemingly cranky post – actually i think billmon just closed down the comments at that point and the community needed a new meeting place to dissect and opine – will think twice about posting w/ a high fever Posted by: b real | Feb 12 2017 4:06 utc | 31 8 Posted by: Even More Outraged Ji | Feb 12 2017 5:17 utc | 32 “Alabama Song” (the song) is not a personal favorite, but I usually go with Dagmar Krause for Brecht/Weil/Eisler songs. Posted by: RudyM | Feb 12 2017 5:32 utc | 33 31 Posted by: Even More Outraged Ji | Feb 12 2017 5:36 utc | 34 Posted by: juannie | Feb 11, 2017 6:35:16 PM | 26 Posted by: somebody | Feb 12 2017 11:51 utc | 35 Posted by: Even More Outraged Ji | Feb 12, 2017 12:17:21 AM | 33 Posted by: somebody | Feb 12 2017 12:00 utc | 36 juannie – here the expl. from the site itself.. Posted by: Noirette | Feb 12 2017 12:46 utc | 37 My pick for an upbeat MoA jingle would be How High The Moon. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 12 2017 14:38 utc | 39 The USA and Russia may be on collision course in Al Raqqa. Erdogan seems to imply that he got the USA support to move the Turkish army toward Al Raqqa through Manbij. Russia and Syria made it clear that the Turkish army should not move beyond Al Bab demarcation line. Posted by: virgile | Feb 12 2017 15:24 utc | 40 The take-down of the Hollyweird satanic/pedo elite has finally started: Posted by: ProPeace | Feb 12 2017 15:34 utc | 41 Former Ambassador to Syria, Robert Ford, was interviewed by Full Measure regarding Syria, U.S. and Russia pivoting to Islamic State/al Nusra battle. The first part is a rehash of U.S. policy on O’s red line and the blaming of Assad regime for chemical attack. After you get past that rubbish, the interview provides some detail many here have shared – http://fullmeasure.news/news/terrorism-security/syria-ambassador Noirette and others,
So my question is not about where the name of this site “Moon of Alabama” came from. I already know that. My question has more to do with the original writing of the song and where did Brecht come up with the reference to Alabama in the title of the song. Had he traveled to the US and the state of Alabama which made some impression on him? Posted by: juannie | Feb 12 2017 18:30 utc | 44 Bibi channels Kate Bush after being Trumped in Washington… Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 12 2017 19:49 utc | 45 47 Posted by: Captain Cook | Feb 12 2017 20:15 utc | 46 – Trump being steered back to “endless war” ? Posted by: Willy2 | Feb 12 2017 22:30 utc | 47 – Neocon Elliot Abrams to be appointed to become Deputy Secretary of State ? Posted by: Willy2 | Feb 12 2017 22:43 utc | 48 @38 somebody, ‘… the US now are basically without government’ Posted by: jfl | Feb 13 2017 1:15 utc | 49 Good video on the coming war with Iran: Posted by: ben | Feb 13 2017 1:40 utc | 50 @52 ben Posted by: jfl | Feb 13 2017 4:38 utc | 51 @53 – jfl.. when has it ever not been a ‘push for war’? seriously.. i don’t know it in my lifetime, especially emanating from the usa… i was born in 56.. Posted by: james | Feb 13 2017 4:54 utc | 52 Posted by: Captain Cook | Feb 12, 2017 3:15:08 PM | 48 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 13 2017 6:04 utc | 53 @54 james Posted by: jfl | Feb 13 2017 6:25 utc | 54 @55 hoarse, ‘It’ll make Trump’s fury at CIA HQ look mild in comparison’ Posted by: jfl | Feb 13 2017 6:29 utc | 55 Why do we continue to read this prince, that royal family, the crown prince, the king, when referencing the oil sheiks? Why? They are not royal. They are dominators. They are enslavers. America continues to support these fakes. Please writers, use another way of describing them but not royal. They usurp the wealth of 300 million Arab Muslim and Christian peoples. This is not right. This is not just. Yet, America continues to support the sheiks with weapons and training and what we have ended up with is alquaida, isis, al-nusra…terrorists who for the most part aren’t Arab at all but foreign killers hired to kill innocent people. The people of Lebanon, Syria, Palestine, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, and Afghanistan, did not deserve the fate of 4 million dead and their nations destroyed. Talk about a holocaust. This is a real holocaust. It is exactly like the holocaust perpetrated against the people of Vietnam….8 million dead and destroyed nations. Remember that there is a God above and he knows who the villains really are. Posted by: charles | Feb 13 2017 15:59 utc | 56 February 9, 2017 Posted by: ben | Feb 13 2017 16:27 utc | 57 @ 60 & 61: Examine these in numerical order, and it’ll highlight the importance of Mr. Trumps assumed detente with Russia. Let’s all hope the Trump outreach to Russia is REAL. Posted by: ben | Feb 13 2017 16:54 utc | 58 MAJOR SIGNAL GIVEN Posted by: ALberto | Feb 13 2017 17:36 utc | 59 Russian jets hammer ISIS with nonstop airstrikes in east Aleppo
… the russians and the turks are fighting daesh and the turks are fighting the syrians. the russians and the syrians are fighting daesh and the syrians are fighting the turks. erdogan must feel delighted and assad must feel betrayed.
… the russians and americans are finally fighting daesh together? in support of the turkish invasion and occupation of syria?
… sounds like the russians have ‘awarded’ al-bab to the turks. had the ‘courtesy’ to tell assad and the syrians after the fact. Posted by: jfl | Feb 13 2017 23:52 utc | 60 – Blueprint for a collapse of the Syrian government ???? Posted by: Willy2 | Feb 14 2017 16:23 utc | 61 The following is a report about another president: Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 15 2017 6:11 utc | 62 This is a really important story – barely mentioned anywhere but nakedcapitalism links, and only a few comments there as well. Posted by: juliania | Feb 15 2017 19:28 utc | 63 US strikes, Daesh sabotage on key dam threaten floods in Syria: UN Posted by: jfl | Feb 16 2017 2:02 utc | 64 @63 juliana Posted by: jfl | Feb 16 2017 2:03 utc | 65 @62 psycho Posted by: jfl | Feb 16 2017 2:06 utc | 66 ‘Dear Imperial murkka: Posted by: denk | Feb 16 2017 3:19 utc | 68 Posted by: jfl | Feb 12, 2017 8:15:11 PM | 49 Posted by: somebody | Feb 16 2017 11:28 utc | 69 Germany heading for a collision course with the US. Posted by: somebody | Feb 16 2017 11:35 utc | 70 @70 somebody Posted by: jfl | Feb 16 2017 13:52 utc | 71 Posted by: jfl | Feb 16, 2017 8:52:58 AM | 71 Posted by: somebody | Feb 16 2017 14:42 utc | 72 You are welcome, jfl@65 – comments at nakedcapitalism said they could find only 17 references on a search, so you are not alone. Do you think we could have a do-over? It’s an extraordinary ruling that nobody’s talking about, and maybe some of the hysterics going on are an attempt to camouflage it. Posted by: juliania | Feb 16 2017 14:59 utc | 73 …Not to mention NO MORE WAR! Now, that’s a march I would join. Posted by: juliania | Feb 16 2017 15:05 utc | 74 @71 “germany-russia would be a pretty potent combination” Posted by: dh | Feb 16 2017 15:57 utc | 75 Tillerson Has Awkward First Encounter With Lavrov at G-20
Lavrov And Tillerson Discuss Situation In Syria, Ukraine
Putin urges FSB to counteract Ukrainian terrorism and foreign destabilization efforts
Syrian War Report – February 16, 2017: Pentagon To Deploy Conventional Ground Forces To Syria?
Tulsi Gabbard vs. ‘Regime Change’ Wars
i suppose there are still a few hits left in the hopium bowl … from the army? don’t see any hope from the republicrats, if tee-rump and tee-rex are republicrats … there’s certainly none to be had from dnc/nsa/cia. i quit smoking in 1990. Posted by: jfl | Feb 17 2017 0:53 utc | 76 oh well a grifter has got to grift. Posted by: Sabine | Feb 17 2017 6:28 utc | 77 edit to 77 link should be leading to Craig list ad for patriots to show up and help the Grifter in Chief campaigining by buying his campaing merchandise. Cause that is totally legal, and as said before a grifter has got to grift, and all that work is hard, and some poor schmuck has got to buy Donalds stuff. Posted by: Sabine | Feb 17 2017 6:31 utc | 78 @73 juliana, ‘… starting with going back to open debates conducted by non partisan, non media, people oriented organizations. ( I’d suggest members of the Occupy community …’ Posted by: jfl | Feb 17 2017 13:52 utc | 79 Yes, jfl, it is really simple isn’t it? Back at the turn of the century when the Supremes made that shocking decision (I was driving home from work listening to my car radio, almost went over the escarpment) I think it was Justice Kennedy who predicted dark days ahead. Little did we know how dark. I think that’s when our democracy died. When those men in brooks brothers suits stormed the room where the little old ladies were doing their best to count ballots in Florida, that was the coup the Supremes endorsed; right then and there it happened. Posted by: juliania | Feb 17 2017 18:19 utc | 80 Trump’s very own FF ? Posted by: denk | Feb 19 2017 2:39 utc | 82 @ Posted by: denk | Feb 18, 2017 9:39:04 PM | 82
Now the last one, the marvelous lumpen of tripe written by Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed is quite remarkable, a truly wordy classic piece of Psyop drivel.
Note: Ahmed & Ahmed also collaborate in Unitas Communications, amongst others, how convenient … Posted by: Outraged | Feb 19 2017 3:50 utc | 83 wow Posted by: denk | Feb 19 2017 4:31 utc | 84 |
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