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February 3, 2017
Open Thread 2017-05
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Posted by: Mina | Feb 3 2017 19:46 utc | 1 I need some explanations. Why aren’t the heads rolling in DC ? Another puppet show ? how depressing… Posted by: alain | Feb 3 2017 19:52 utc | 2 A couple of days ago, Houthi rebels supposedly destroyed a KSA missile frigate. Seeing there was so little media attention, was it real or not? The video clip doesn’t show a lot and the explosition could easily have been a missile exploding before reaching its target due to missile defense systems… Posted by: xor | Feb 3 2017 19:52 utc | 3 Predictably, the media is giving Chump’s thinly veiled threats to Iran a pass. Note how the URL includes the word “nuclear” even though the missile Iran tested, as is its right, was not equipped with a nuclear warhead. Posted by: Temporarily Sane | Feb 3 2017 20:07 utc | 4 Historian ‘European Civil War Within 30 Years’ Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 3 2017 20:10 utc | 5 @5 Anonymous Posted by: Temporarily Sane | Feb 3 2017 20:16 utc | 6 @ Posted by: xor | Feb 3, 2017 2:52:37 PM | 3
They have done this more than once before.
The Saudi coalition forces claimed the HSV Swift was carrying aid to Yemen. The Houthi’s claimed it was transporting troops & military arms/materiel(Highly probable). Posted by: Outraged | Feb 3 2017 20:36 utc | 7
Posted by: Outraged | Feb 3 2017 20:50 utc | 8 All, Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 3 2017 21:03 utc | 9 my expired Mcafee antivirus has suddenly tried to prevent me from going to Sputnik News. I was quite amazed to see McAfee resuscitate like that, and also to try to block Sputnik, which I visit every day. Posted by: mischi | Feb 3 2017 21:30 utc | 12 http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/cover.jpg Posted by: Cloned Poster | Feb 3 2017 21:32 utc | 13 Read and think: Posted by: C del Toro | Feb 3 2017 21:38 utc | 14 Temporarily Sane 6: Posted by: nobody | Feb 3 2017 21:45 utc | 15 France (also > Mina’s posts previous.) Posted by: Noirette | Feb 3 2017 21:51 utc | 16 @13 cp Posted by: jfl | Feb 3 2017 21:55 utc | 17 Very interesting take on the Muslim Ban from Iraqi Archbishop Bashar Warda: Posted by: AtaBrit | Feb 3 2017 21:57 utc | 18 Omg! Where do I start? Either Trump’s losing his screws everywhere or the mask has come off. Posted by: Circe | Feb 3 2017 21:57 utc | 19 #16 Noirette Posted by: Quadriad | Feb 3 2017 21:58 utc | 20 @16, noirette ‘How long will the F put up with all this?’ Posted by: jfl | Feb 3 2017 22:07 utc | 21 @Temporarily, no links, but the NATO block is expressing their deep concern for the state of Democracy in Romania. That speaks volumes. Posted by: ruralito | Feb 3 2017 22:13 utc | 22 @20 q, ‘supplying blackmailing material is a necessary requirement for anyone getting promoted in the French politics’ Posted by: jfl | Feb 3 2017 22:15 utc | 23 Oh, and you’all can add this to the list of stupid and neocon things Trump can do in one day! Posted by: Circe | Feb 3 2017 22:25 utc | 24 Macron, another neoliberal, who abandoned the Socialists to create his own party, En Marche!, benefits from Fillon’s immolation. I see Le Pen qualifying for the second round. And unless Hamon can tap a lot more juice and make the runoff, how can Macron or Fillon beat Le Pen head to head? Posted by: Mike Maloney | Feb 3 2017 22:36 utc | 25 150 or more Democrats’ Neo Nazi dressed in black with weapons protested in UC Berkeley. Obomo, Hillary and George Soro (Democrats) are determined to remove Trump from office by force. Posted by: OSJ | Feb 3 2017 22:43 utc | 26 Do not worry about superfluous ME war issues, BREXIT, US Presidential signing statement fiats or EU political posturing. Apparently Fukushima Reactors are open nuclear sewers. Anyone who knows anything realizes that the Nuc’lur Industry is a .01% Holy Cow and cannot be questioned. Posted by: ALberto | Feb 3 2017 22:43 utc | 27 US-led airstrike hits infrastructure, water supply in Syria’s Raqqah
us terror against the civilian population of syria continues, with the us/isaf at the point, as usual. Posted by: jfl | Feb 3 2017 22:44 utc | 28 @jfl | Feb 3, 2017 5:44:40 PM | 28 Posted by: OSJ | Feb 3 2017 23:09 utc | 29 @26 Posted by: Circe | Feb 3 2017 23:25 utc | 30 @4 Posted by: Circe | Feb 3 2017 23:49 utc | 31 The evidence is mounting people. And so soon. Another anti-worker/ pro-corporate/ pro-Empire/Globalist/, sock-puppet in DC. Posted by: ben | Feb 4 2017 1:03 utc | 32 26 Posted by: chipnik | Feb 4 2017 1:08 utc | 33 14 defining points of fascism. IMO, all 14 are afoot here in the U$A today. Posted by: ben | Feb 4 2017 1:09 utc | 34 Dodd Frank “regulation” was a toothless joke in any case. Posted by: fast freddy | Feb 4 2017 1:15 utc | 35 Workers in America, lube up, and grab your ankles… Posted by: ben | Feb 4 2017 1:23 utc | 37 All these right to work laws have clauses in them, that, although employees aren’t required to join the Union, the Union is forced to represent said worker, in any disputes between management and labor. Without dues, the Unions can’t afford the costs of legal help, and the Unions go bankrupt. Which is exactly the point. Posted by: ben | Feb 4 2017 1:35 utc | 38 Union wages as opposed to non-Union wages. Posted by: ben | Feb 4 2017 1:46 utc | 39 From: The Unbalanced Evolution of Homo Sapiens Posted by: ben | Feb 4 2017 1:58 utc | 40 Trump/Bannon seem set on giving USA shock-therapy, akin to Russia after USSR. Posted by: aaaa | Feb 4 2017 1:59 utc | 41 @41 aaaa that is what I was saying in comment 12 – using every trick possible to get people to stay on the straight and narrow MSM path. But I don’t think it’s pro-Trump, I think it’s anti-Trump. Posted by: mischi | Feb 4 2017 2:08 utc | 42 Bannon et al are in complete sync with Continuity of Agenda, even advancing new protocols. And before we forget Bannon IS a haunted house! @27 The news from Fukushima is utterly devastating.This world’s civilisation needs to take a stop from the utter stupidity it is presently engaged in.Who will be sacrificed to go in and stop this living leaking nuclear bomb every Sievert a killer in itself. We need not exaggerate with any hope, this is the end for many many people.What is going on there – any reports? Having once studied and written a long article for public use on radio-activity for the Donegal County Council,to protest mining of Uranium ; and recently reading S.Alexievich’ Chernobyl Prayer, her interviews that make clear the Russian Government knew not what to do sending for Andre Sakarov from Siberia where he had been confined. V.B Nesterenko a director of Atomic Energy Institute Belarus reported the refusal and denial of Russian Ministry to allow medical emergency – o jasus, we all, all of us, all know what this could mean to Japan and the wide diaspora of the Far East. Already countless cases of destroyed lives of infants and the populations recorded in the Middle East because of American bombs using Uranium, already since Gulf War One and ever since in every American sortie. Do these foolish women marching really know what Clinton wanted and Obama pushed for – war with Russia? The Russians do not want war, President Trump does not want war,and in the interim of stupidity in mock military exercises – everyone knows war would be nuclear. I write as an old woman in my eighties, I beg you beloved men come out to stop the stupid displays of the mothers and the ignorant egotisim of their educated children, because where human life survives they must learn to save it. If the tragedy of Fukushima can be terminated we owe our existence to the sacrifices the Japanese may now have to make. Posted by: Jocelyn Braddell | Feb 4 2017 2:36 utc | 44 JB @ 43 said:”If the tragedy of Fukushima can be terminated we owe our existence to the sacrifices the Japanese may now have to make.” Posted by: ben | Feb 4 2017 2:43 utc | 45 mina or noirette – do either of you or anyone else know the actual date when the elections happen in france, (or the pre election process of run offs) as they move toward the actual election? thanks.. Posted by: james | Feb 4 2017 2:44 utc | 46 27 Posted by: chipnik | Feb 4 2017 2:53 utc | 47 FADE IN Posted by: nobody | Feb 4 2017 2:55 utc | 48
Posted by: Outraged | Feb 4 2017 3:05 utc | 49 You can donate to the families of the victims and the survivors of The Bowling Green Massacre here: Posted by: Brunswick | Feb 4 2017 3:30 utc | 50 @39 Ben Posted by: NemesisCalling | Feb 4 2017 3:38 utc | 51
Posted by: Outraged | Feb 4 2017 3:56 utc | 52 I posted this on the previous thread by mistake when I meant it for this one. Posted by: Circe | Feb 4 2017 4:03 utc | 53 @51 Posted by: Circe | Feb 4 2017 4:17 utc | 54 @ 50: Yes, that’s always a possibility. Most studies, take into account COL.(cost of Living) Posted by: ben | Feb 4 2017 4:20 utc | 55 51 Posted by: chipnik | Feb 4 2017 4:32 utc | 57 The elite pedophile rings are going to be exposed: Posted by: Anoncommentator | Feb 4 2017 4:32 utc | 58 @50 Posted by: NemesisCalling | Feb 4 2017 4:44 utc | 59 NC @ 58: Except the below excerpt, I agree completely.. Posted by: ben | Feb 4 2017 5:17 utc | 60 More bad news for American workers: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/02/the-end-of-employees.html Posted by: ben | Feb 4 2017 5:51 utc | 61 @60 Posted by: Circe | Feb 4 2017 6:41 utc | 62 Noirette, problem is that what Fillon did is what ca 20 % of mps do! Posted by: Mina | Feb 4 2017 7:13 utc | 63 http://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-hekmatyar-idUSKBN15J08C Posted by: okie farmer | Feb 4 2017 7:18 utc | 64 http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-southchinasea-mattis-idUSKBN15J061 Posted by: okie farmer | Feb 4 2017 7:22 utc | 65 @50, 59
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hundreds-donald-trumps-employees-have-sued-alleged-labor-infractions-2336166 Posted by: Circe | Feb 4 2017 7:23 utc | 66 James Posted by: Mina | Feb 4 2017 7:35 utc | 67 The petition asking for the release of Trump’s tax returns broke the all-time record for WH petitions. You know, with all the lies coming out of this WH so far; I too wanna see what Trump is hiding in those tax returns. Posted by: Circe | Feb 4 2017 7:50 utc | 68 @64 Posted by: Circe | Feb 4 2017 8:16 utc | 69 Breaking! Posted by: OJS | Feb 4 2017 8:21 utc | 70 FIRST ON TRR: A UC Berkeley Rioter Has Been Exposed, & He’s a University Staff Member! Posted by: OJS | Feb 4 2017 8:25 utc | 71 Some parting sarcasm: Posted by: Circe | Feb 4 2017 9:16 utc | 72 The CIA’s New Deputy Director Ran a Black Site for Torture
the pigs are wallowing at the trough. if we americans – westerners, its no different elsewhere – do nothing, bottom up, it’s belly up, for sure. clinton, trump, some other player to be named later … makes no difference. the political-financial class have the bit between their teeth and are going for broke … in fact they already have. the chips are just beginning to fall now. Posted by: jfl | Feb 4 2017 10:48 utc | 73 Internet rumour that FBI insider says 70 pedophiles in DC including 30 politicians to be arrested in coming days when Sessions is AG. Posted by: Anoncommentator | Feb 4 2017 10:58 utc | 74 Again the recurring shitty problem about the format. This sends me away as fast as possible. Bye. Posted by: Quentin | Feb 4 2017 11:09 utc | 75 @74 q Posted by: jfl | Feb 4 2017 11:48 utc | 76 Seems like the better US-relations with Iran is falling fast, Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 4 2017 11:50 utc | 77 Another link: Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 4 2017 12:03 utc | 78 “URGENT: The Cossacks are going to begin the liberation of Donbass and Ukraine on Bandera” Posted by: x | Feb 4 2017 12:21 utc | 79 Where is ‘somebody’ when you need him?! Posted by: Mina | Feb 4 2017 12:22 utc | 80 Poroshenko with the aid of EU/NATO/US seems to be waging a full war now, Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 4 2017 12:37 utc | 81 In terms of timelines – remember this. @ 75 Right. Thanks jfl. I was using Safari. On Firefox the margins are as they should be. Posted by: Quentin | Feb 4 2017 13:24 utc | 83 @66 Circe Posted by: NemesisCalling | Feb 4 2017 14:37 utc | 84 Who rules murkka ? Posted by: denk | Feb 4 2017 15:51 utc | 85 http://space4peace.blogspot.com/2014/03/letter-to-editor.html Posted by: denk | Feb 4 2017 15:53 utc | 86 Thank you for the John Helmer article link, OSJ @ 29. The trade with Russia is not an important factor for New Zealand, Posted by: juliania | Feb 4 2017 16:43 utc | 87 Apple is leaving china. Posted by: denk | Feb 4 2017 16:46 utc | 88 Unbelievable disaster with no apparent solution Posted by: ALberto | Feb 4 2017 16:55 utc | 89 Quadriad @ 20. More or less, yes. However it is the whole sytem that is rotten to the core, it’s not individual Posted by: Noirette | Feb 4 2017 17:25 utc | 90 For the record, having just noted chipnik (57), would like to put the maximal distance possible between my original post which was intended as a playful allusion to “the night of long knives” and the (seriously proposed) analog of Röhm-Hitler and Bannon-Trump, and, the entirely unacceptable content matter of the user chipnik. Posted by: nobody | Feb 4 2017 20:22 utc | 92 I’m posting this video I saw on CNN here and I really hope people get to see it to understand how cruel and senseless Trump’s refugee/Muslim ban is. Please watch; it’s absolutely heartbreaking. Posted by: Circe | Feb 4 2017 20:50 utc | 93 @89 Thanks Alberto for extending coverage. Guardian did have a small notice of it today. Posted by: Jocelyn Braddell | Feb 4 2017 22:30 utc | 94 85 Posted by: Even More Outraged Ji | Feb 4 2017 22:46 utc | 95 @89 ALberto Posted by: MadMax2 | Feb 5 2017 1:47 utc | 96 Even More Outraged Ji 95 Posted by: denk | Feb 5 2017 2:34 utc | 97 i think chump is a better name for him then trump.. that much i can say with authority.. Posted by: james | Feb 5 2017 2:50 utc | 98 99 Posted by: chipnik | Feb 5 2017 18:34 utc | 100 |
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