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January 21, 2017
Open Thread 2017-03

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pw @189, ‘… or are they intentionally making the civilians there suffer as much as humanly possible?’
that’s a rhetorical question, right? does tee-rump know? or care? he’s the prez now. my impression is that he manages by arson … sets the place on fire, or just lets it burn, and then fights the blazes that threaten him personally. is probably totally incurious about what is going on otherwise. is in perpetual crisis mode. and the uniforms – intentionally making the civilians [everywhere] suffer as much as humanly possible – are not going to tell him anything they don’t want him to know …
i see an interesting story on Xi … China calls for East Jerusalem to be capital of Palestinian State

The Palestinian problem “should not be marginalized,” Xi said to the Arab League.
“China supports the peaceful process in the Middle East [and] the establishment of a Palestinian state with its capital being eastern Jerusalem,” he added through an interpreter.

… that ought to differentiate china and the usa in the eyes of anyone who cares at all about the palestinians. presumably there are sill some arabs and muslims somewhere in the middle east who still do. no ‘jihadists’, of course. they’re all allied with israel. and none in any middle eastern government, outside of iran.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 23 2017 10:20 utc | 201

@Peter AU | Jan 22, 2017 8:56:24 PM | 165
Personal antipathy for sure, but he isn’t (or wasn’t) half as anti-Russian as McCain, Nuland and the likes. He was between a rock and a hard place, had to be sufficiently aggressive to appease the right wingers, while making concessions where necessary (Ukraine, Syria). Doesn’t really matter any more…thing is, I would definitely warn against expecting anything positive from Trump, foreign policy wise. He’s definitely not the one to place any restraints on the Pentagon, army and CIA.
@170
Once again: The US needs Israel to control MENA, so yes, of course there is a strong lobby in DC which makes sure that this crucial alliance isn’t put in question. What’s important is the underlying strategy and interests, not the concrete structures used to perpetuate them. United they stand…the US has 100 times greater resources, so it’s quite obvious they’re the dominant side in this alliance.

Posted by: smuks | Jan 23 2017 10:21 utc | 202

re 197
“11 million dollars for Jammeh’s holidays in Guinea”
Actually, Mina, didn’t you think how little that was, only 11 million? Normally that would be in the billions. But then Gambia is a

Posted by: Laguerre | Jan 23 2017 10:53 utc | 203

*But then Gambia is a very small country.

Posted by: Laguerre | Jan 23 2017 10:54 utc | 204

In reply to “Passerby”, entry 147. I can’t say 100% that you’re wrong because Western intervention in the Ukraine and the ME is such a big subject. One reads any number of explanations or justifications for that intervention and there’s no certainty any of them are right. There’s one justification I don’t see put forward, however, unless for PR purposes and then only as a matter of form, and that is the excuse that our interventions in these regions are for the purpose of protecting Human Rights. Yet this, I’m pretty sure, is what you are saying when you write this:-
“With Trump, decisions seem made by asking “Does this benefit me? If it doesn’t benefit me, why should I do it?” Making decisions because of abstract values – human rights, or free trade – just became as old-fashioned as flying dinosaurs.”
This can only mean that you are asserting that Western foreign policy in the Ukraine and the ME up until the Trump presidency was based on the pursuit of abstract values such as Human Rights. Have I read you correctly, and if so could you indicate where the evidence that substantiates that assertion is to be found?
A long winded but I hope precise way of expressing the question that came into my mind when I first saw your post: “Where the hell are these flying dinosaurs? I’ve never seen any.”

Posted by: EnglishOutsider | Jan 23 2017 11:29 utc | 205

first drone strikes under Trump administration kills

Posted by: john | Jan 23 2017 12:10 utc | 207

@Posted by: Mina | Jan 23, 2017 6:37:01 AM | 205
Thanks. Read the letter with Yandex browser, automatically translate to Eng one click. Anyway Pierre Le Corf is wasting his time even ample evidences provided (below his letter).
François Hollande is far too stupid beside a murder with his co-conspirator’s Merkel and Obomo. My wishes even as I dislike Trump, hope he drains the swamps in Amerika and EU. François Hollande and Merkel won’t be around after the coming elections.
Dr. Assad is not going anywhere, will still be the President of Syria long after the evils warmongers gone.

Posted by: OJS | Jan 23 2017 12:33 utc | 208

@201 smuks
Your logic is, to put it mildly, illogical .
The US needs Israel to control MENA, so yes, of course there is a strong lobby in DC which makes sure that this crucial alliance isn’t put in question
If, as you assert, the US ‘needs’ Israel, then, ipso facto, there is no need for a strong lobby. The US has numerous military bases in the mid-east, none of which are in Israel – so what exactly is Israel’s practical contribution to this ‘crucial alliance’ that is worth $3.8 billion per year.
United they stand
WTF does that even mean? That the US or its foreign policy would fall apart without Israel bravely propping it up? Hilarious.
the US has 100 times greater resources, so it’s quite obvious they’re the dominant side in this alliance.
Another slider. Its not the size of resources but, crucially, the control of those resources that matters, as in where and why said resources are allocated. Control the decision makers and you control the resources.
As to who is wagging what, perhaps you should google Netanyahoo’s speech to Congress, the one where he received at least 26 standing ovations in less than 39 minutes; that’s an average of one ovation every 1 ½ minutes. Perhaps that will shed some light on your ‘wagging’ conundrum.

Posted by: pantaraxia | Jan 23 2017 12:37 utc | 209

@john | Jan 23, 2017 7:10:09 AM | 207
I’m not in favour using drones regardless under any administrations. Unintended consequences – kill innocents. civilians. PERIOD!

Posted by: OJS | Jan 23 2017 12:38 utc | 210

Dang!..you people you are missing the reality train again,come on get up to speed while your mind is being messed up!The reality ‘setters’ are creating new paradoxs while you are still frozen like a deer caught in the old fake highlights.
The old soldiers known as Pentagon have got their man in the white house with a little help from Jerusalem?maybe who knows but the team chaos is not using the old bogey man ”terrorism” cos they are the one with the copyright on real terrorist,they are now using ”women right” as the attacking ramp on the mind of the yet to awake ‘american’ mind.
Take 2 images ,one of mad madame Madonna ”bombing w.h” and not being dragged away to Guantanamo bay with soros on the other side of the bond declaring war on ‘fascism’ actually on ‘pentagon sized w.h”…
The next image of triumphant new POTUS voted rightfully being faked as ‘not my president’……”women &not my president anarchy” is coming to your living room.
While in the background receding is view of ‘moderate freedom fighters” narrative franchise is being buried in Dier E. Zur!

Posted by: Nur Adlina | Jan 23 2017 14:02 utc | 211

Hm, all this talk of energy independence is all good & well … though do like the association of Saudi Arabia with ‘our enemies’ part though.
However, diverting energy exports to serve domestic consumption in order to achieve ‘independence’ isn’t going anywhere without a massive investment & commitment to renewable alternatives, to make up for lost time (lots a new jobs, too!). It’s just crap without it. China shows the way there …
This poster has lived close to 90% off-grid, electricity & natural Gas independent for 16+ years, with battery storage from the very beginning, Grid-Tie and Off-Grid Solar PV, Over-sized scale Solar Vacuum Tube Hot-Water system, supplemented by a 2KW wind Turbine.
Only ever need to purchase a small amount of electricity from the grid during winter, and that only accounts for 10% of my annual needs. And here is the kicker, that 10% expense is exceeded by the income from the excess PV electricity sold into the Grid annually!
By the way, Tesla powerwalls, using Lithium-Ion batteries, in a ‘Powerwall’ ‘Inside‘ your dwelling, are a wonderful way to have your house eventually burn down in flames, and maybe you and your family with it 😉

Freeing the U.S. From OPEC No Longer Just a Dream: Bloomberg Government Energy
In one way, President Trump has a very real path to success.

To all of this, we’re here to tell you that in one way President Trump has a very real path to success. An America First Energy Plan, posted on the White House website soon after noon on Friday, said he would focus on lowering energy costs and “freeing us from dependence on foreign oil.”
“President Trump is committed to achieving energy independence from the OPEC cartel and any nations hostile to our interests.”
Weaning the U.S. from OPEC’s whims has long been a goal of American leaders — at least rhetorically. From the days of Richard Nixon that’s been a pledge of U.S. presidents. But Bailey Lipschultz and Mark Shenk say that unlike those earlier calls, Trump may actually be able to succeed. U.S. imports are back up, but because of the shale boom U.S. production is up and there’s scope for it to rise further.
“Signs point toward possible energy independence,” they say. “To achieve that, though, the country may need to reconsider a push for exports that was supported by Republicans. Since scrapping restriction on sales to countries other than Canada at the end of 2015, U.S. crude exports have risen to more than 700,000 barrels a day.”

Trump’s Vow to Break From OPEC Oil Imports Echoes Old Refrain

Saudi Arabia and Venezuela lead the pack of OPEC suppliers to the U.S. They account for more than half of U.S. imports from the 13-nation group. Ministers of the two countries, meeting in Vienna over the weekend, shrugged off Trump’s statement, saying the world’s biggest economy would continue to need crude from abroad.

Potentially benefiting from a shift away from OPEC are Canada and Mexico. They are two of the largest suppliers to the U.S. and don’t belong to the group.

“Every president since Richard Nixon has promised to work for energy independence but most have done nothing,” Lynch said.

OPEC Shrugs Off Threat of U.S. Cutting Oil Imports

Trump Aides Prepare List of Early Energy Changes, Sources Say
– Advisers create list of policy changes primed for quick action
– White House website now has ‘America First Energy Plan’

Whitehouse.gov – America First Energy Plan

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 23 2017 15:01 utc | 212

Laguerre@195, mina – Re: Asharq Al-Awsat – their banner looks a little familiar so I must have seen things on their site before, but I’m surprised they haven’t come up more often in search results. Some sites do not allow search engine indexing of their english-language editions. I don’t recall the newspaper being cited much in other on-line sources or linked to in articles/blogs, but maybe I just haven’t noticed (or it’s peculiar to Syrian coverage). Al Hayat / Al Monitor is familiar, but I never knew it was the ‘other’ major Arab-language newspaper. I feel like a perfect fool now, but thanks for the education.
Laguerre Re Ar Raqqa – The whole ‘Wrath of Euphrates’ operation has been peculiar since day one. Nobody could figure out why Kurds (SDF) would die to take back ar Raqqa and there were only a thousand or two Arabs in the SDF at the time, but they announced the operation anyway. A couple of weeks in, the U.S. clarified that this was only Phase I of Wrath of Euphrates – the SDF was just taking back the little villages north of ar Raqqa, but wouldn’t enter the city itself. Phase II was suppose to be left up to the Arab contingents. That went on for a couple of months with slow (but steady, I guess) progress.
Now the U.S. and SDF claim an Arab force of several thousand in SDF and they are nearly ready to move into ar Raqqa itself. The entire thing seems impossible and there’s no way U.S. advisers and several thousand casual soldiers with a few months of training are going to make much progress in the city. I’m still suspicious that most of this Arab SDF contingent are trained mercs hired by the U.S. – someone to step aside after the fighting so the U.S. can cram their paid-off administration lackeys into ar Raqqa. Sort of a permanent spy base/listening post for the U.S., I guess.
Ar Raqqa is the U.S.’s last-ditch effort to have something on the Euphrates to serve as a moderate Sunnistan capital. I don’t see how they can take it, but the U.S. just seems obsessed with it. Maybe the dam is part of it – selling Syria back it’s own electricity from an Arab federation may be a more realistic scheme than trying to get Assad to buy it from the Kurds. All this assuming the U.S. resource theft schemes and soft partitioning in Syria goes off as planned.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Jan 23 2017 15:01 utc | 213

Hey Outraged,
Why not post the same comment on every thread just in case someone missed one of your precious comments.

Posted by: Not outraged | Jan 23 2017 15:37 utc | 214

@ Posted by: Not outraged | Jan 23, 2017 10:37:15 AM | 214
How droll & laced with sarcasm. Thank you for the latest #Fake ID creation. A backhanded form of compliment, no doubt 🙂

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but the highest form of intelligence.’

If the latter part of the quote didn’t give the quote away, given the fact the quote is from Oscar Wilde, a very well-known ‘wit’, should provide an ‘indicator’.
It’s generally accepted that Oscar was being ‘sarcastic‘, when he said it. 😉

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 23 2017 16:02 utc | 215

addendum # 207:
Obama waited 3 days in 2009 to get his war criminal badge.
Trump, 24 hours.

Posted by: john | Jan 23 2017 16:43 utc | 216

Mina at 205. I was struck by this passage: Les « Casques blancs », que le gouvernement français a financé entre autres et que nous avons reçus à l’Elysée sont, pour un grand nombre d’entre eux, secouristes le jour et terroristes la nuit, et vice-versa ; Ils ont prêté allégeance à Jabhat al-Nosra (Al-Qaïda), comme le prouvent les documents retrouvés après leur départ et comme en témoignent les habitants.
Because until now I have not read/seen anyone who says that, but I’m sure it’s true.

Posted by: Noirette | Jan 23 2017 16:45 utc | 217

Thanks to all discussing Trump’s visit to the CIA on Sunday. I very much appreciate that information and analysis.
To Kiwicris@166 Thanks to you also. I am very interested in your view, in particular because the news sources I have usually linked to have all become unreadable – the Herald of course was always for me a sad one since they started online with a really excellent ‘feed’ from various newspapers and have now become pop culture. The ODT was good but are limited in scope. Scoop used to have some excellent coverage though opinion pieces atrocious. They were very good against the TPP as was the Daily Blog. But I was appalled at the coverage of US election and nobody seems to have a clue on Key’s sudden departure – not anything that could be mentioned anyway. As a Five Eyes person of interest and close friend to Obama, I wonder if he still holds power behind the scenes. There seems to be an Iron Curtain up down there – I have family there, and they are not well informed at all.
You may not be able to comment – I really appreciate your input here.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 23 2017 17:03 utc | 218

Noirette @217, there was a video of some guy cutting off a Palestinian refugee kid’s head off with a pen knife. He was identified later as a White Helmet and a lot of media carried that story.

Posted by: mischi | Jan 23 2017 17:08 utc | 219

@200
In 1947, a U.N. partition was IMPOSED on the Palestinians without the consent of the Palestinians. Today, to be fair, after the massive theft that Zionists already pulled off, the pre-67 lines and terms regarding Jerusalem should be IMPOSED on Israelis by the U.N. without their consent to stop them from the GRAND SWINDLE including ethnic cleansing Netanyahu and Trump are plotting.
As Trump has ushered in Kushner and Friedman on his right and Adelson on his left, and he has $125 million reasons to do Zionists’ and Netanyahu’s bidding, they will try to pull off the con of the century. This is totally in keeping and in character with Trump’s own con experience and Zionism’s ongoing massive con job as well.
Then while they’re trying to do this, expect Orwellian draconian laws to be imposed to criminalize BDS activism and other protest against this injustice and muzzle all criticism everywhere. Oh and expect goebbels hasbara/propaganda rife with deception demonizing Palestinians and portraying Zionists like poor, helpless victims to be disseminated everywhere while opposition to it is threatened and criminalized and labelled by screeching voices to be anti-Semitic.
Trump has already done the bidding of Zionists trying to sabotage a U.N. Resolution condemning illegal settlement expansion, he is intending to have Jerusalem declared capital of Israel, he invited the radical leaders of settlement movements to his inauguration while they’re plotting to annex illegal settlements, and he will continue to do the bidding of Zionists. This unholy alliance will ignite nothing short of the worst conflict and further Zionist-engineered geopolitical morass, triggering perpetual war and chaos in the Middle East and a rise in terrorism throughout the world.
This is the REAL Donald J. Trump and not the all-knowing man-god who will make the world great again fantasy many here pretend he is.

Posted by: Circe | Jan 23 2017 17:12 utc | 220

@219 circe.. 64,000 question is does the us remain in the un?

Posted by: james | Jan 23 2017 17:22 utc | 221

An observation & some unforgettin'(sic):
Certain, committed, Anti-Trump-Faction ‘posters’, use the same tactics over, & over, & over again, some may find nauseating … when one doesn’t scroll on by:
1) Attack Trump-Faction to the death,
2) Project assertions of ‘questionable’ negative associations – attack Trump-Faction to death,
3) Can’t sustain or effectively respond to challenges to, ‘endless repetition to attack Trump-Faction’ – resort to personal insults – & resume, ‘attack Trump-Faction to death’, and
4) Repeatedly ignore and falsely assert ‘#Fake’ re demonstrable facts/evidence, even when they are irrefutable.
One is also profoundly re-assured that the faux ‘Moralists‘(?) have suddenly found the ‘Gonads‘ to exclusively confront/attack ‘a’ President & seek to hold him to account regarding clairvoyantly divined & asserted supposed future deeds/conduct, given they spent the past eight years, and another eight prior to that under Bush the alcohol addled sockpuppet of numerous War Crimes fame, fawning over & willingly & graciously accepting #Collateral civilian drone murders/deaths, for example, by the Drone-King extraordinaire, apparently because a handsome, well spoken fella, was then, the Prez in power.
Hm, what ever happened to closing Guantanamo on day one, eight years ago, what about the expansion of the ‘Surveillance State’ by Executive Order, what about doing something, ‘anything‘ about those responsible for Enhanced Interrogations (TORTURE), as eventually partially reported by the long delayed & obstructed, Senate investigation.
Only as recent as seven weeks ago …

Feinstein still pressing Obama to declassify ‘torture report’ – POLITICO
Nov 29, 2016 – At issue is a Senate report about the use of harsh interrogation techniques by the CIA(& others) under President George W. Bush.

As that well spoken fella declared re calls for accountability, prosecution & punishment/sanction for the Torturers & their Command/Legal/Executive enablers:

Let us look forward, Not back. Let us Turn the Page & Move on.
– Former Prez, Barack Obama, re the classified & unreleased Senate investigation & Report report on State sanctioned Torture.

Obama’s Justice Department grants final immunity to Bush’s CIA(& others) Torturers
Glenn Greenwald
By closing two cases of detainees tortured to death, Obama has put the US beyond any accountability under the Rule of Law

– numerous embedded references/links/sources, further articles.
And forget, forget, forget …

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 23 2017 17:37 utc | 222

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-mosul-idUSKBN157231
Iraqi forces have captured all of eastern Mosul, dislodging Islamic State militants from the last pocket they held east of Tigris river, the defense ministry said on Monday.
Mosul is Islamic State’s last major city stronghold in Iraq.
“The armed forces succeeded in liberating the left bank of the city of Mosul completely, after inflicting heavy losses in lives and equipment to the enemy,” the ministry said in a statement on its website.
Iraqi forces launched a U.S.-backed campaign in October to retake Mosul from the hardline Sunni group, which captured the city in 2014, declaring from its Grand Mosque a “caliphate” that also spanned parts of Syria.

Posted by: okie farmer | Jan 23 2017 17:37 utc | 223

@220
If Trump assigned Nikki Haley U.N. Ambassador there is intent to stay; but if Trump colludes with Zionists’ Grand Swindle, what they’re already calling state-minus, which amounts to a crime under the Geneva Conventions; there should be a General Assembly vote to kick the U.S. out. But that’s as much of a fantasy as the Trump fantasy.

Posted by: Circe | Jan 23 2017 17:40 utc | 224

People in the U.S. seem unaware of the economic tsunami that is coming with the automation of workplaces with new technology to eliminate human workers, starting with self-driving vehicles, and moving on down the line until at least 50 percent of the working age population can’t find any job outside of sub-minimum work in the service sector – if they’re lucky. TPP was the keystone of this with it’s provision that national law is “trumped” – pardon the expression – by the interests of investors, and that democratically decreed laws can be repealed by nameless, unaccountable and secret trade courts.
Can’t happen you say. We live in a democracy? As soon as enough workplaces are converted to the point that human beings physically __can’t__ work in them, the next step is to take the vote away from the “losers” who have been left behind.
Any ideas or comments as to how this situation is going play out?

Posted by: rackstraw | Jan 23 2017 17:41 utc | 225

Seeing initial sketchy reports in foreign news of US and Russia conducting joint air operations in Syria.

Posted by: Les | Jan 23 2017 17:50 utc | 227

Hm, what ever happened to closing Guantanamo on day one, eight years ago, what about the expansion of the ‘Surveillance State’ by Executive Order, what about doing something, ‘anything’ about those responsible for Enhanced Interrogations (TORTURE), as eventually partially reported by the long delayed & obstructed, Senate investigation.
Response in Trump’s own words:
There should be no further releases from Gitmo…
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816333480409833472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Torture works. OK, folks? You know, I have these guys—”Torture doesn’t work!”—believe me, it works. And waterboarding is your minor form. Some people say it’s not actually torture. Let’s assume it is. But they asked me the question: What do you think of waterboarding? Absolutely fine. But we should go much stronger than waterboarding.

Trump says torture works:
Torture works. OK, folks? You know, I have these guys—”Torture doesn’t work!”—believe me, it works. And waterboarding is your minor form. Some people say it’s not actually torture. Let’s assume it is. But they asked me the question: What do you think of waterboarding? Absolutely fine. But we should go much stronger than waterboarding.
No, it doesn’t; it’s just his bombastic, all-knowing twisted logic designed to brainwash the dumb mass.
The scientific and medical community see it for what it really is, useless and…INHUMANE.
https://doctorsagainsttorture.blog/2016/12/07/trump-and-torture/

Posted by: Circe | Jan 23 2017 18:04 utc | 228

Russia has received coordinates of Daesh targets in Al-Bab, Aleppo Province, from the US via the ‘direct line,’ the Russian Defense Minsitry said Monday.
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201701231049927674-russia-us-daesh-coordinates/

Posted by: From The Hague | Jan 23 2017 18:12 utc | 229

@ Posted by: Les | Jan 23, 2017 12:50:31 PM | 226
May be interested, if missed, in ongoing reports discussion in page 1 of this thread starting at and then following on:

Posted by: Peter AU | Jan 21, 2017 9:00:47 PM | 41

Also starting at and subsequent followup:

Thread: January 17, 2017, How The U.S. Enabled ISIS To Take Deir Ezzor,
Posted by: PavewayIV | Jan 19, 2017 2:35:38 PM | 209

YMMV

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 23 2017 18:14 utc | 230

Already two days prior to the inauguration, the US attacks on al-Nusra in Idlib started. The US militaries did give a “F” on weather Obama likes it or not ..
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/us-air-strikes-syria-isis-al-qaeda-jabhat-fateh-al-sham-nusra-aleppo-idlib-training-camp-100-killed-a7539571.html

Posted by: From The Hague | Jan 23 2017 18:16 utc | 231

@ Posted by: From The Hague | Jan 23, 2017 1:12:20 PM | 229
See post 69 this thread, now ~34 hrs ago …
YMMV

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 23 2017 18:19 utc | 232

Trump and Sisi discussed fighting terrorism in phone call: statement
Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi discussed fighting terrorism and extremism with U.S. President Donald Trump in a telephone call, and Trump applauded Egypt’s efforts on those fronts, Sisi’s office said on Monday.
Trump told Sisi he appreciates the difficulties faced by Egypt in its “war on terror” and affirmed his administration’s commitment to supporting the country, Sisi’s spokesman Alaa Youssef said in a statement.
“The U.S. President also expressed during the call his looking forward to the President’s awaited visit to Washington which is being prepared for through diplomatic channels,” the statement said

Posted by: okie farmer | Jan 23 2017 18:24 utc | 233

All apologies if this information is old or news that’s been repeated.
One of Erdogan’s Generals, quoted in a Turkish newspaper, claims the US proposed a new partition map of Syria directly to Pres. Assad immediately after the fall of Aleppo.
https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2017/01/23/1305651/turkish-ex-general-reveals-us-plans-for-syria-after-aleppo-liberation

Posted by: Wwinsti | Jan 23 2017 18:24 utc | 234

Correction: Tasimnews.com is an Iranian news site.

Posted by: Wwinsti | Jan 23 2017 18:29 utc | 235

@ Posted by: From The Hague | Jan 23, 2017 1:12:20 PM | 229
The key quotes from your link:

On January 22, the Russian command center at the Hmeymim airbase has received coordinates of Daesh targets in Al-Bab, Aleppo province, via the ‘direct line’ from the US-led coalition headquarters. After further data verification with the assistance of unmanned aircraft and space reconaissance, the Russian Aerospace Forces and two jets of the international coalition have conducted airstrikes on the terrorists’ targets,” the statement said.
Earlier, Russian and Turkish combat planes have carried out a new series of joint airstrikes against Daesh targets in war-torn Syria, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Monday.
“The Russian and Turkish planes carried out joint airstrikes against Islamic State terrorists in the outskirts of the town of al-Bab in Aleppo province on January 21,” the ministry said in a statement.
According to the statement, the missions involved three Russian planes, including two Su-24M and a Su-34 aircraft, and four Turkish planes, including two F-16 and two F-4 fighter-bombers.

See Whitehouse.gov website:

On foreign policy, the new website says “defeating ISIS and other radical Islamic terror groups will be our highest priority,” referring to the Islamic State terror network.

Also address to the CIA, first official visit:

We have to get rid of ISIS. We have to get rid of ISIS. We have no choice [applause]
Radical Islamic terrorism – and I said it yesterday – has to be eradicated. Just off the face of the Earth. This is evil. This is evil.

You’re going to go to it, and you’re going to do a phenomenal job. But we’re going to end it. It’s time. It’s time right now to end it.

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 23 2017 18:31 utc | 236

@ Posted by: From The Hague | Jan 23, 2017 1:16:31 PM | 231
Key quotes from above link:

Monitors say target jointly controlled by group previously ‘vetted’ and armed by US
Drones and bombers were used to raze the camp to the ground.
More than 100 Islamist fighters have been killed by US air strikes on a training camp in Syria as American forces expand their assault beyond Isis.
The Department of Defense said planes and drones were involved in Thursday’s operation on the Shaykh Sulayman camp in northern Syria, on the last day of Barack Obama’s presidency.
A statement described the target as an “al-Qaeda training camp”, but monitors say it was controlled by Jabhat Fateh al-Sham (JFS) and Hakarat Nour al-Din al-Zenki.
JFS claimed it split from al-Qaeda last year, when it changed its name from Jabhat al-Nusra, while the Nour al-Din al-Zenki movement received American weapons including TOW anti-tank missiles as one of dozens of “vetted groups”.
Its fighters filmed themselves beheading a Palestinian boy accused of spying last year, and has abducted and tortured journalists and humanitarian workers.
Captain Jeff Davis, a spokesperson for the Pentagon, said the camp had been operational since at least 2013.
“The removal of this training camp disrupts training operations and discourages hardline Islamist and Syrian opposition groups from joining or cooperating with al-Qaeda on the battlefield,” he added.

JFS released a statement condemning the strike and accusing the US of aiding Bashar al-Assad’s regime, which Mr Obama’s administration opposed.

The targeted camp is in a region expected to be a key battleground for Bashar al-Assad’s forces.

An official, speaking to Reuters on condition of anonymity, said the strike was carried out by a B-52 bomber and unmanned aircraft that dropped 14 munitions.
The camp, near the border between Aleppo and Idlib province, is in a region expected to be the Syrian President’s next target following his force’s assault on rebel-held parts of Aleppo city.

Islamist activists accused the US of injuring children and civilians in recent strikes, including one on a car carrying a high profile militant, showing a young boy in hospital.

Air strikes continued on Friday, with Isis militants, vehicles, oil wells, weapons and infrastructure targeted in the Raqqa, Deir Ezzor and Homs provinces of Syria, as well as near Mosul, Kisik and Kirkuk in Iraq.
US-led forces carried out a three-day campaign to prevent Isis transporting fighters and equipment across the Tigris River in Mosul, where they have been driven out of eastern parts by Iraqi security forces.
Coalition planes struck 90 watercraft and three barges, Central Command said.
“We believe this was a desperate attempt to retrograde Isil (Isis) fighters now that the Iraqi Security Forces own the eastern bank of every bridge in Mosul,” said Col John L Dorrian.

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 23 2017 18:42 utc | 237

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201701231049927674-russia-us-daesh-coordinates/
Russia has received coordinates of Daesh targets in Al-Bab, Aleppo Province, from the US via the ‘direct line,’ the Russian Defense Minsitry said Monday.
The US is now providing co-ordinates of terrorists to Russia. There has been no outcry from the pentagon/generals so forth refusing to work with Russia.
I think this puts to rest the fable that the pentagon was at odds with Kerry’s peace deal.
All that crap was merely cover for the US attack on Deir Ezzor.

Posted by: Peter AU | Jan 23 2017 18:58 utc | 238

@ 221: Gee, thanks for the revelation that Obama was, and is, a hypocrite and a liar. Who knew? But then, that’s what it takes to front for the empire.
Some of us are waiting to see if Mr. Trump fulfills the same role. Unless he controls his cabinet picks history proven inclinations, it could well be a case of…
“meet the new boss, same as the old boss”
Still, too soon to tell, but here’s one indicator, unless, he takes Mr. Ryan to the woodshed.
http://www.salon.com/2016/12/08/house-gop-bucks-donald-trump-scrap-legislation-to-buy-american-iron-and-steel/

Posted by: ben | Jan 23 2017 19:05 utc | 239

Noirette 217
Check Vanessa Beeley, it was clear during the Aleppo evacuation that the WH supporters/FB linked/top guys in Turkey, decided to go to either Idlib or Turkey .
I posted yesterday 2 links from Twitter where indeed the guys show up exactly where Nusra is strongest.
In a way, when Fabius spoke of Nusra, the sole fact he knew of their name means that they were in direct line as recipients.
Most of them were just doing videos in Turkey or elsewhere most of the time and receiving pictures from Syria to edit with additional emotional scenes.

Posted by: Mina | Jan 23 2017 19:06 utc | 240

@ Posted by: Peter AU | Jan 23, 2017 1:58:23 PM | 238
As discussed previously.
The suborned & politicized Generals have received new orders WEF Trump’s inauguration and the removal of Neocon chickhenhawk warmonger’s minion’s, such as Ash Carter.
The Professional Military has been executing the new CIC’s mission literally within an hour of taking office. This has now been corroborated and confirmed by multiple sources and reports over the last 48 hours, beyond any reasonable doubt. IMV

.. “defeating ISIS and other radical Islamic terror groups will be our highest priority,” referring to the Islamic State terror network.

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 23 2017 19:07 utc | 241

For the last few years, I have searched his name in the google, wondering when I would finally stumble upon the date of his death in bold print. In recent years and interviews he had shrunken down but still assumed an imposing physical presence. To me, the look in his eyes had gone beyond desperation, exhausted from touching upon the horrors of consumerism and the plight of migrants in Europe. Something else had set up shop with his diligent surveying of culture and globalist policy, but his work was now hastened by time . Once an unrepentant marxist, he now said things like: “there are two types of people and one of them reads Kierkegaard.” I came upon his work when I could not lift the burden of my enlightenment – tinged liberal education from my chest – but as the Iraq war had been the greatest destructive force that I have lived through, or, rather, seen from the safety of a tv, it became possible to feel from afar if one could only see. In any case…RIP John Berger. Now I will have to really get to know you.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 23 2017 19:17 utc | 242

Draft translation of:
Posted by: Noirette | Jan 23, 2017 11:45:09 AM | 217

The “White Helmets“, which the French government financed, among others, and which we have received at the Elysee, are, for many of them, first-aiders during the day and terrorists at night, and vice versa; They pledged allegiance to Jabhat al-Nosra (al Qaeda), as evidenced by the documents found after their departure and as witnessed by the inhabitants.

YMMV

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 23 2017 19:18 utc | 243

Gotta give credit where credit is due. Another story on Mr. and the TPP.
Encouraging..
https://trofire.com/2017/01/23/trump-moving-forward-promise-kill-tpp-trade-deals/

Posted by: ben | Jan 23 2017 19:21 utc | 244

Outraged | Jan 23, 2017 2:07:58 PM | 241
Yes. It is good to see. A number of positive actions already by Trump. TPP is gone which was a big concern for me, plus the turn around in Syria, though I see from the Department of Defence site, the destruction of Syrian infrastructure by operation Inherent Resolve has continued. Will wait and watch on that one.
Regarding the US embassy move to Jerusalem. Any chance on this being a move to put the embassy closer to the Palestinians? As in being halfway between Palestinian Israel and Jewish Israel. Any thoughts on this. Trump seems to be purely pragmatic rather than ideological or religious. Perhaps the move is just to appease zionists? But I feel there may be more in it than meets the eye.

Posted by: Peter AU | Jan 23 2017 19:22 utc | 245

I read this funny comment somewhere about Trump:
So, Trump has been president for 3 days now. When will HE get his Nobel Peace Prize?

Posted by: mischi | Jan 23 2017 19:24 utc | 246

MUST SEE
save it on mirrors and spread it via youtube and elsewhere because FB will probably take if off
https://www.facebook.com/pierrelecorf/posts/10155035638889925
Someone filmed the 9 first days of the war in his street, in Aleppo, August 2012

Posted by: Mina | Jan 23 2017 19:26 utc | 247

It is one of the illusions of the West, that its human rights, its willingness to dialogue, or the virtues of its culture, earn it the respect of the the clan-based societies of Africa, Arabia, and Asia, or the peoples of South and East Europe. Rather, they are interpreted as a sign of effeminacy and weakness. They are interpreted as traits that one tries to exploit in order to optimize one’s own power and odds of winning.
Eugen Sorg

Posted by: passerby | Jan 23 2017 19:28 utc | 248

@ Posted by: Peter AU | Jan 23, 2017 2:22:47 PM | 245

Any thoughts on this. Trump seems to be purely pragmatic rather than ideological or religious.

My thoughts align with the former, a pragmatist, an American historical Nativist closest to the strain circa 1800 thru to 1890’s, with a strong strain of jingoistic ‘Patriotism’ of the old school traditional kind. Though just merely an overall impression.
Have a hunch I’m researching that he was burnt in his business dealings/career by the Globalist(?) faction, more than once for failing to ‘co-operate’, and that is at the core of his efforts one now percieves to have begun around ~8-10 years ago, to directly take on the Globalists(?) through the office of the Presidency and in effect an internal coup within the GOP. Raw draft assessment, not refined or fleshed out … YMMV

Perhaps the move is just to appease zionists? But I feel there may be more in it than meets the eye.

It’s all very opaque. Destroying ISIS and the moderate head-choppers is directly against Israel’s strategic interests & policies. Only time and Deeds will elucidate. IMV
Have noted he doesn’t, unlike other patently ‘bought & paid for‘ shill’s/sock-puppets, quote/read-out aloud verbatim statements faxed/emailed/mailed by AIPAC … always a good indicator. So ? ? ? Who knows … just yet.

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 23 2017 19:47 utc | 249

Check that, Noirette, same profile as Le Mesurier, NATO-related guys behind the WH/medics
http://www.republicain-lorrain.fr/week-end/2016/12/15/raphael-pitti-le-docteur-de-la-derniere-chance

Posted by: Mina | Jan 23 2017 19:51 utc | 250

Israel is pro-ISIS and rejects the notion of a U.S.-Russian alliance to destroy ISIS:

Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon said Tuesday that Iran poses a greater threat than the Islamic State, and that if the Syrian regime were to fall, Israel would prefer that IS was in control of the territory than an Iranian proxy. – Times of Israel, Jan 19 2016

Hillary Clinton and Ashton Carter and John McCain, in contrast to Trump, were promoters of a no-fly zone in Syria that would have given Al Qaeda and ISIS an advantage over the Syrian government, even if it meant direct military conflict between American and Russian air forces. That earns them the lunatic-of-the-year award. And just to review, here are some quotes on why there was so much eagerness to implement regime change in Syria, related to Aleppo and Deir Ezzor:

2008: On October 14, the official Syrian news agency SANA announced that the Russian Stroytransgaz had been awarded a USD 71 million contract to build a 38-mile (62 km) gas pipeline from Aleppo to the Turkish border over the next 18 months. (Note: While the SARG may spin this project as the final “link” in the “Arab Gas Line” project to export Egyptian gas to Europe, industry experts believe the pipeline’s actual purpose will be to bring Iranian gas to the Syrian market. End note.) – US State Department cable

This expansion of Syrian-Iranian-Russian economic cooperation seems to have greatly alarmed Israel and the US and Saudi Arabia, and is the best explanation for the covert regime change effort in Syria since 2011, which notably had an Aleppo and Deir Ezzor focus:

May 2009: Further, both sides [Syria & Iran] expressed a desire to link their electrical grids via the Deir Ezzor power station in eastern Syria and the Al Qaim station in western Iraq. Finally, the two delegations agreed they should facilitate bilateral trade by connecting their railroad network, with the Iranians noting their existing track is only 10km from the Iraqi port of Um Qasr. – US State Department cable

In contrast, the rational perspective is that the US can live with this kind of situation, and even profit off it by continuing to do business with all parties (mainly Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Iran) in the region, but that the Israelis have to be soothed and coddled as usual, so give them the Jerusalem embassy to ease their fears. I’d hope that’s what Trump is planning on, we’ll see.
Not that Israel has anything to fear from its neighbors with its massive nuclear arsenal and increased U.S. military aid package, as this underreported story details:
http://courthousenews.com/on-eve-of-aid-boost-researcher-flags-israels-clandestine-nukes/

“Defendants have collectively engaged in a violation of administrative procedure and the Take Care Clause by unlawful failure to act upon facts long in their possession while prohibiting the release of official government information about Israel”s nuclear weapons program, particularly ongoing illicit transfers of nuclear weapons material and technology from the U.S. to Israel,” the 33-page complaint states.

Posted by: nonsense factory | Jan 23 2017 20:26 utc | 251

@ Posted by: nonsense factory | Jan 23, 2017 3:26:23 PM | 253
Bravo! Sir/Madam. Definitely a, NO nonsense factory! 😉

In contrast, the rational perspective is that the US can live with this kind of situation, and even profit off it by continuing to do business with all parties (mainly Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Iran) in the region, but that the Israelis have to be soothed and coddled as usual, so give them the Jerusalem embassy to ease their fears. I’d hope that’s what Trump is planning on, we’ll see.

Possible, even likely, perhaps, IMV. Indeed, deeds/actions/events … we’ll see.

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 23 2017 20:35 utc | 252

That was a pretty good idea. It took only four years to transform it into the so called Arab spring. And now no one will care about it anymore.
http://www.btselem.org/video/cdp_background

Posted by: Mina | Jan 23 2017 20:42 utc | 253

@ Posted by: ben | Jan 23, 2017 2:05:56 PM | 241
One is not preaching to the converted or already ‘aware’. However there are many, especially lurkers occasional drop-ins/passersby, that benefit from such … reminders … no ?
Re Trumpster’s appointments, please consider this:
IF the objective, having conducted a coup from within the GOP to seize control of it as a vehicle to become the President, & your objective was to take on the Globalist(?) re concerns as to the actual sovereignty of the US of A, of which Goldman Sachs is one of those entities at the 1st tier of the parent corporations, above all others, which the ‘Old grey-haired soulless men’ use to toy with Terra, it’s resources, nations, economies and peoples, in some sort of psuedo-Zuess amoral game. Then who better then bitter, former senior executives, formerly from within the beast itself, who would know exactly how to bring it to heal, or even, possibly, down ?
The shit the MSM reports on these ‘appointments’ is little more than selective gossip, insinuation and slander …
Respectfully, sincerely, have you independently researched their histories, character traits, views/motivations, as of today and recently, or merely accepted the 90% MSM Psyop assertions/narrative ?
Peace.Salaam.Shalom

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 23 2017 21:07 utc | 254

@214 pw, ‘Ar Raqqa is the U.S.’s last-ditch effort to have something on the Euphrates to serve as a moderate Sunnistan capital.’
does this mean you’ve reassessed deir ezzor as a failure? i hope. not that your prognostications are better than anyone else’s … but i guess i think they are 🙂

Posted by: jfl | Jan 23 2017 21:18 utc | 255

More on WH
The first pic shows 4 bearded guys, doing the “tawhid” sign which Muslims do during prayer to symbolize God’s unity. It was commonly used in Egypt especially among the MB during the protests (see pictures of the Rab’a sitting; usually it meant ‘only God is my witness’, i.e. if I die he will punish the sinners who kill me). Not to say that other brands of Egyptian Salafists could not use it but it was a sort of aknowledgement sign.
https://blogs.mediapart.fr/le-cri-des-peuples/blog/220117/syrie-casques-blancs-le-masque-de-la-terreur

Posted by: Mina | Jan 23 2017 21:19 utc | 256

jfl@257 – Re: U.S. designs on Ar Raqqa. It strikes me that the U.S. has an obsession with ar Raqqa and Tabqa. That doesn’t strike me as any kind of pure ISIS-battling motive. They would be better off leaving it for now, I mean – what’s the hurry? ISIS capitol – who cares? It is not an immediate threat to the Kurds. Why the U.S. interest there and (apparently) little interest in al Bab or Deir EzZor?
Al bab is taking care of itself so the U.S. has no kind of future presence or influence there. I think they would have loved the Kurds to make it that far, but that’s not happening now (nor will Turkey let it). So the U.S. writes off any al Bab land theft through proxy and plays nice with Turkey to get rid of ISIS there. If the U.S. can’t have it, then the second most important goal is “not liberated by Syria.” Syrian control means no U.S. foot in the door. Turkey controlling al Bab would mean a permanent terrorist base camp close to Aleppo for endless mischief – the U.S.’s “Keep Syria on it’s Knees Forever” campaign.
Deir EzZor is just the opposite – the U.S. seems to want ISIS to take it over completely. Why? Well, ISIS are our placeholder terrorists – they provide a permanent casus belli for someone (like a U.S. proxy) to grab it later on. Who would complain about someone kicking out ISIS? A suitable U.S. stooge just needs to be tasked with the job.
The most important thing for Deir EzZor right now is that it remain “not liberated by Syria.” Palmyra/Tadmor is part of that strategy – tying up Syria and blocking the roads so they can’t relieve the siege of Deir EzZor. If Deir EzZor is under ISIS control and the SAA is still stalled in Palmyra/Tadmor, then the U.S. still has a chance at their land theft by proxy. I don’t know who the proxy would be. Kurds? That’s pretty far south for them. Arab militias? Sure – dust of the failed New Syria Army or whatever they were called. The point is that it eventually can be liberated by someone, as long as that someone is not Syria. I don’t suggest this scheme will succeed – I’m just offering evidence for a motive.
The U.S. goal here is a “not Syrian” ar Raqqa and a “not Syrian” Euphrates all the way down to “not Syrian” Deir EzZor and “not Syrian” al Bukamal. The Proxy isn’t important, as long as they were a U.S. stooge somehow dependent on us. Dependency is control. Iraq will never be free of the U.S. parasite, and that’s the plan for as much of north and east Syria as possible. To what ends? Well, the usual suspects.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Jan 23 2017 22:43 utc | 257

I would like to draw attention to the link furnished by NemesisCalling@244. It’s a beautiful piece by John Berger, written before the US invasion of Iraq. A wee bit, and then his final words:
“…It is a little more than a century ago that Dvorák composed his Symphony From the New World. He wrote it whilst directing a conservatory of music in New York, and the writing of it inspired him to compose, 18 months later, still in New York, his sublime Cello Concerto. In the symphony the horizons and rolling hills of his native Bohemia become the promises of the New World. Not grandiloquent but loud and continuing, for they correspond to the longings of those without power, of those who are wrongly called simple, of those the US Constitution addressed in 1787…”
“…In war the dark is on nobody’s side, in love the dark confirms that we are together.”
Thank you, NemisisCalling.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 24 2017 1:17 utc | 258

2017 Is 1984 Psycho-Feudalism In America
International researchers develop ‘vaccine’ against ‘fake news’
23 Jan, 2017
https://www.rt.com/news/374799-study-fake-news-vaccine/
Scientists at Cambridge, Yale and George Mason are seriously considering a “vaccine” against fake news, and believe they’ve found a solution – one that’s not too different from immunization against an ordinary viral pathogen.
According to social psychologist Dr. Sander van der Linden, “Misinformation can be sticky, spreading and replicating like a virus.” Therefore, new research has found that treating it like an actual virus may do the trick.
The research focused on fake news about climate change, though the model can potentially be applied anywhere else to “inoculate” the public against misinformation. It discovered that when two types of information are presented consecutively, the wrong information would completely cancel out what was said before. In other words, the opinion would go full circle.
So the solution would then be to introduce small amounts of misinformation together with the correct information. They would stand out obviously, and act not as distortion, but as something the mind could immediately compare with the correct information, preventing a shift of the resulting opinion to either side too strongly.
Read more
© Dado Ruvic ‘Facebook deals first blow in the fake war against fake news’
Regardless of any follow-up exposure to fake news, the method would still do the trick, researchers discovered.
“We wanted to see if we could find a ‘vaccine’ by pre-emptively exposing people to a small amount of the type of misinformation they might experience. A warning that helps preserve the facts,” van der Linden went on.
The point was to create “a cognitive repertoire that helps build up resistance to misinformation,” thereby weakening its effect the next time around.
The researchers tested their hypothesis – the so-called ‘inoculation theory’ – by inventing a pretend scenario that would closely mimic the dynamics of misinformation on a highly-publicized subject as they play out in real life.
The study was performed on Republicans, Democrats and Independents equally, and achieved a high degree of efficacy with their sample size of 2,000 people. The participants were all given popular false statements on prominent topics. Each was rated for familiarity and the persuasiveness of its arguments.

Posted by: blues | Jan 24 2017 2:37 utc | 259

Moving the embassy to Jerusalem means it’s safer there… 😉

Posted by: ProPeace | Jan 24 2017 6:15 utc | 260

In reply to “EnglishOutsider”, entry 205.
Until now, Western leaders used values as an excuse when invading, overthrowing, or bombing. Human rights, democracy, free trade, or, in the case of Ukraine, “European values”.
Trump does away with that. With Trump it’s “Does it benefit America? If not, why should I do it?”. That’s Trump: the change from value-based decisions to profit-based decisions.

Posted by: passerby | Jan 24 2017 9:00 utc | 261

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201701231049910053-russia-syria-tu22-daesh/
Six Russian Tu-22M3 long-range bombers have launched airstrikes on Daesh targets in Syria’s city of Deir ez-Zor, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

Posted by: okie farmer | Jan 24 2017 9:55 utc | 262

Empire Files: US-Russia Relations in “Most Dangerous Moment”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op6Qr7uuMy8

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 24 2017 10:35 utc | 263

Mina, @ 242, i am aware of V. Beeley, she is good and brave, kudos, and she has quite some ‘alt’ media exposure.
Some ‘humanit’ actors who have ‘another pov’ are generally ‘allowed to speak’ and yet have no ‘impact’, they just represent ‘one experience’, are ‘marginal’ — to appease doubters, gather adherence to figures who have zero power and are disposable yet reassure temporarily as to ‘plurality – free speech – other …’
(Sorry for all the ‘….’ – used for brevity.)
However all this does not unravel the financial and armament ties — state, corporate, banking, logistics, how it all works, that is what should be exposed.
The W. Helmets are a good ex. to study because there is really quite a lot of info, if scattered. Although I hesitate to mention, human, particularly child trafficking, may be part of the picture. Many taboo topics surface.
We are conditioned to see Assad attacked, “He must go!” as he is a pop. leader, resisting US hegemony or the like…
The plan (?) was to partition Syria in 3, in favor of:
Turkey // Daesh, ISIL.. (islamic ‘rebels’, KSA, GCC) // Israel. (Which explains much confusion about this ‘war’..)
On the face of it, a kind of ‘territorial’ fight, linked to energy (falsely, Syria has no reserves, it is energy dependent, and pipelines issues, well some will make a big deal of it, but these could be resolved to mutual satisfaction in a purely commercial frame, no problem if other considerations removed..) but many underground forces play a role.
This ain’t WW2 with its trenches and dead soldiers.. there are children exploited, and refugees/immigrants despoiled, or supposed to provide cheap, fresh, labor (E.g. Germany.)

Posted by: Noirette | Jan 24 2017 18:01 utc | 264

So, Trump has been president for 3 days now. When will HE get his Nobel Peace Prize? mischi @ 248.
Heh 🙂 — Putin joked about that in the last presser. Saying that he didn’t know If Trump would be awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics or Mathematics!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYdQJ3HNdqU (F subtitles)
In the eng. version on Youtube this passage has been cut. As has the passage where he says that prostitution is a scourge, but it is an outcome of Sate and Society.
https://nyti.ms/2jWGvXv (Eng subtitles.)

Posted by: Noirette | Jan 24 2017 18:22 utc | 265

passerby@263:
“Until now, Western leaders used values as an excuse when invading, overthrowing, or bombing. Human rights, democracy, free trade, or, in the case of Ukraine, “European values”.
“Trump does away with that. With Trump it’s “Does it benefit America? If not, why should I do it?”. That’s Trump: the change from value-based decisions to profit-based decisions.”
Your QED above is not consistent with the preceding statements. Using values as an excuse is not the same as ‘value-based decisions.’ Nor is benefit equivalent to profit in the sense you are using the term, though it would be in the biblical sense of “What doth it profit a man…”
I could go on, but I sense you already know this.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 24 2017 19:21 utc | 266

this leader of the opposition Mohammed Alloush is connected to Jaysh al-Islam.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaysh_al-Islam
Zahran Alloush was the son of an exiled Salafi preacher living in Saudi Arabia, jailed for his own “salafist activisties,” reports Syria Deeply, but was released in 2011, after which he quietly formed a militant group late in the year.
Zahran’s close relative Mohammed Alloush studied marketing in Saudi Arabia, and then Islamic banking in Lebanon, “but he dropped out before completion, joining Jaish Al Islam,” apparently in 2012, when they started receiving Saudi Arabian funding, Gulf News reports. “(Mohammed) was the founder of underground cells in Douma, 10-km northeast of Damascus, and rose in rank quickly to become a member of Jaish Al Islam’s Political Bureau.” [4] (In March, 2016, Mohammed would be selected, at Saudi insistence, as the chief negotiator for the Western-and-Saudi-backed High Negotiating Commiittee heading what’s supposed to be peace talks with the Syrian government.) http://acloserlookonsyria.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Army_of_Islam
The group along with Ahrar ash-Sham are the main rebel groups supported by Saudi Arabia.[41] The group aims to create an Islamic state under Sharia law.[42][43]
Ideology
Sunni Islamism[1]
Salafism[1]
this is the opposition the USA is supporting? go figure…

Posted by: james | Jan 24 2017 19:49 utc | 267

“Newt Gingrich: Trump Should Use The CNN Confrontation As An Excuse To Break The Press”
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2017/01/13/newt-gingrich-trump-should-use-cnn-confrontation-excuse-break-press/215012

Posted by: Willy2 | Jan 24 2017 22:41 utc | 268

@ Posted by: juliania | Jan 24, 2017 2:21:53 PM | 268
Indeed. And these Faux arguments, faux hand-wringing and faux/suborned NGO’s, R2P & faux Human Rights & ‘Oh the Humanity‘, #Fake ‘pretexts’ have rarely been genuine, always in the interests of Supra-National, Multi-National Corporate interests, championed fraudulently & relentlessly by the trumpet of the small cabal of, owned by other corporate entities further up the chain, MEGA-Media-Corpses, benefiting … Globalists(?) (Financiers/Bankster mega-corporations, & their ultimate owners) perhaps, pulling the strings, behind the curtain of the Empire ?
Often to the detriment of the nations serving Empire, including the citizens of the US itself ?

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 25 2017 1:35 utc | 269

German, Belgian NATO troops arrive in Lithuania
http://presstv.com/Detail/2017/01/25/507639/nato-german-belgian-troops-lithuania
When will this dangerous provocations stop?

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 25 2017 16:32 utc | 270

@ Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 25, 2017 11:32:12 AM | 272
It takes time, planning & available means (logistics) to turn them around and bring ’em back, even once a directive is issued, if that is intended(happened).
What is more relevant, is there a continuation or lack of accompanying bellicose rhetoric, if there is a lack thereof, then they likely won’t be there long … 😉

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 26 2017 2:02 utc | 271

A trifecta of ‘getting-close-to-prophetic’ Brexit Posts by b last June now have their commentary closed.
Now that the supreme court has made it’s ruling, how much media space will now be devoted to hijacking Brexit – given that, as Nur Adlina alludes upthread @212, the fake left and ‘yet to awake’ is now highly mobilised.
Could well be another theatre re-emerging where we discover the fight inside the the crumbling neoliberal agenda.
MofA June 23 – Brexit Not Gonna Happen
MofA June 24 – The Reverse Brexit Campaign Has Begun
MofA June 25 – The Pending Stalling Of Brexit – A Gift For The Fascist Right

Google News For Brexit Supreme Court Ruling

Posted by: MadMax2 | Jan 26 2017 2:38 utc | 272

While the fake, irrational, confused left continue their wayward march to the piper’s tune, there are, and have been, educated voices inside the real left that are genuine about serious reform, which includes a return to sound money that ideas like public banking would provide.
Great 18 minute radio interview by Yanis Varoufakis with ABC Radio National (Australia) ~ Trump, Brexit and the European New Deal .
Worth listening to a guy that has been head-to-head-toe-to-toe with the failing neoliberal beast. He refuses to believe that Trump brings hope, and provides solutions to obvious financial problems via European institutions that already exist (just not used for the people).

Posted by: MadMax2 | Jan 26 2017 3:45 utc | 273

^^
Sorry, here is correct link to interview w/ Yanis Varoufakis re: Post 275.
Great 18 minute radio interview by Yanis Varoufakis with ABC Radio National (Australia) ~ Trump, Brexit and the European New Deal

Posted by: MadMax2 | Jan 26 2017 3:50 utc | 274

Chelsea Manning Op-Ed
Manning’s selective amnesia is pervasive on the left. There is an abundance of evidence that Obama was never progressive. Obama simply put a smiley-face on neolib/neocon polices.
Manning also fails to denounce the corrupt Democratic Party. They are the principle reason that we have Trump.
It’s sad to see genuinely progressive people that still don’t get it.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 26 2017 16:47 utc | 275

277
Manning’s selective amnesia
Manning was clearly smarter than the average, with a precocious cognizance of religion and politics.
i mean, she must have been aware of the illegality of the war when she enlisted in 2007. that was also well after the Haditha massacre, the Jessica Lynch fiasco, and the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse scandal.

Posted by: john | Jan 26 2017 17:49 utc | 276

Buttressing the narrative of Obama as a well-meaning progressive that was blocked by the dark forces of the right ONLY serves the interests of the Democratic Party establishment.
There are already many true progressives that have figured that out. Sheepdog Bernie Sanders campaign inadvertently(!) showed that progressives don’t need the corrupt Democratic Party.
Establishment liberals and faux progressives that such at the diseased teat of the Democratic Party will fight tooth and nail to oppose any Movement that rejects Centrist puppets, puppet masters, and puppet promoters (MSM).

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 26 2017 18:29 utc | 277

Over 90 percent of water in besieged Gaza unfit for use: Official

A Palestinian official and local residents have expressed deep concern over the worsening clean water shortage in the Gaza Strip, stating that only a small number of the Palestinians in the besieged coastal enclave have access to drinking water.
Rebhy al-Sheikh, the deputy chairman of the Palestinian Water Authority, said on Thursday that more than 90 percent of the water in the aquifer in Gaza is unfit for domestic use.

primo levi said “Everybody is somebody’s Jew.”
maybe, after nearly seventy years of slow-motion genocide the phrase ought to be “Everybody is somebody’s Palestinian”?
the jews were germany’s palestinians.
the american ‘indians’ are the usa’s palestinians.
the syrians are turkey’s and the gcc’s palestinians.
the rohingyas are burma’s palestinians.
the people of patani are thailand’s palestinians.
the tai peoples are bangkok’s palestinians.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 26 2017 22:58 utc | 278

A top hacker-hunter at Russia’s largest cybersecurity firm has been arrested on charges of treason
A key cybercrime investigator at Russia’s biggest cybersecurity firm, Kaspersky, was arrested on charges of treason last month, Russia’s Kommersant newspaper reported on Wednesday.
Kaspersky Lab confirmed to the Associated Press that Ruslan Stoyanov, head of its computer incidents investigations unit, was arrested in December.
Stoyanov was arrested along with a senior Russian FSB intelligence officer, Sergei Mikhailov, according to Kommersant. Mikhailov, who also faces treason charges, was the deputy head of the information security department of the FSB, Russia’s national security service.
Investigators are examining money that Stoyanov allegedly received from foreign companies or entities, according to Kommersant. A source told the paper that the case has been filed under article 275 of Russia’s criminal code, which allows the government to prosecute an individual suspected of aiding a foreign state or organization.

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 26 2017 23:57 utc | 279

Trump Freezes Obama’s Last-Minute Release of $220M to Palestine

In his latest attempt to sideline the Palestinians, U.S. President Donald Trump froze his predecessor Barack Obama’s last-minute US$220 million in aid payment to the Palestinian government, Palestinian officials said Thursday.
The money had already been approved by the U.S. Congress in the 2015-2016 fiscal year and was slated for humanitarian aid efforts in the West Bank and Gaza, but at least two Republican members stood against it.
Traditionally, presidents have respected delays placed on funds, though these are not legally binding once the money is allocated. Tired of waiting for the Republicans to come around, however, Obama decided to use his power to release the funds in the last hours of his presidency.
President Trump is poised to become one of the most friendly U.S. leaders in recent history toward Israel’s continued colonization of Palestine. He has nominated David Friedman, a supporter of Israeli settlement expansion in the West Bank, as his ambassador to Tel Aviv.
His administration is also in the early stages of preparing for the controversial relocation of the U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, a promise Trump repeatedly vowed to deliver on and had right-wing politicians cheering for during his election campaign.
Several Israeli ministers cheered his victory in November and said his reign would mean an end to the two-state solution and the prospect of establishing a viable Palestinian state. Meanwhile, the Palestinian leadership has vowed to withdraw its recognition of Israel if Trump delivers on the embassy move promise.
The news came as Israel approved building permits for thousands of homes in illegal settlements in the West Bank over the past week in expectation that Trump will row back on the previous administration’s criticism of such projects.

i haven’t heard that the contract for walling off mexico has gone to the israelis … yet.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 27 2017 4:12 utc | 280

jfl, its Chinese New year today and I presume it must be wild with firecrackers? I believe there are more than 10 overseas Chinese in where you are living?

Posted by: OJS | Jan 27 2017 4:50 utc | 281

correction – 10 millions

Posted by: OJS | Jan 27 2017 4:51 utc | 282

ojs,
wikipedia says 9,392,792 … 14% of the population. thailand has the largest number of overseas chinese of any nation, although not the largest percentage of it’s population, singapore is 74.1% chinese, and malaysia 23.4% according to wikipedia.
this year chinese new years will be subdued, due to the official mourning for king bhumibol, who died just 106 days ago, on 13 october. there is an official year’s mourning. the chakri dynasty itself has rivers of chinese blood in its veins.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 27 2017 6:54 utc | 283

Amazing, its the Obama fever all over again !
Most of the alternate medias and its readers are gushing over Trump the ‘Great white hoax’. !
Exhibit a
‘He acts fast’, ‘He’s a man of his words, he promised to end the tpp, obamacare, builds a wall at the border and he’s delivered on all of
these pledges’. !
Well we’ve better all pray Trump NEVER deliver on his thuggist threats to raise hell on the TW straits , SCS and Korean penensula.
Else it’d make Killary *ww3* Clinton looks like a cutesy harmless old hag. !
Exhibit b,
‘Trump meant what he says about fighting the IS, the Russian have already received the co-ordinates of a Daesh unit from the Pentagon’ !
[sic]
I thought everybody and his dog knows by now the IS is just the latest iteration of CIA sponsored jihadists mercs, Whats the big deal for uncle scam to sacrifice a couple of its ‘dispensable assets’ to buy some street creds ?
So the thoroughly exposed and totally discredited WOT under Bush, Obama has found new respectability now simply cuz Trump the ‘Great white hoax’ is minding the store ?
Amazing !
fool me once…..
Exhibits a/b are samples of comments I found in the sakers.
but its typical of Trump worshiping everywhere.
p.s.
Couldnt post at the saker .
Right now MOA is practically the ONLY ad free, facebook free, google free, discus free, loggin free and unadulterated alternate site on earth.
Enjoy it while you still can !
hhhhhhhhhhh !

Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2017 15:59 utc | 284

Russia betrays Syria with constitutional draft that decentralizes the Ba’athist Syrian state. Exactly what Israel & US want:
https://twitter.com/PhilGreaves01/status/824976256957571077
Phil Greaves predicted Russia would do this nearly a year ago.

Posted by: David | Jan 28 2017 8:54 utc | 285

We can see it today very clearly:
Why do the British hate the Russians? A brief history of 500 years of anti-Russian propaganda

Posted by: ProPeace | Jan 29 2017 5:29 utc | 286

@289 pp
thanks for the link. the biggest problem the brits have with the russians is the latter control so much land and wealth and the former control so little. having punched beyond their weight for centuries the brits are still up for it – the tories whose feet never have touched the ground anyway – and so they have always kept the russians in the hardly human category … ready to be warred and done away with … whenever they can get the americans to do it for them.
ancient greed and exploitation … norbert haering has a series on the us involvement in the financial exploitation of the hitherto un-banked indian millions …
A well-kept open secret: Washington is behind India’s brutal experiment of abolishing most cash
More evidence of early US involvement in Indian demonetisation
Catalyst’s Malick, unhappy with report on US influence on India’s demonetisation, hits back with false claim
The Group of Thirty might finally end its scandalous existence
A $500 bn pot of gold: How Boston Consulting and Google pushed Modi to end the era of cash
… the ruthless post-modern greed of the tecno-financial western ruling class piling on top of the equally ruthless greed of the Bharatiya Janata Party and the ancient indian ruling class.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 30 2017 9:46 utc | 287

@David 288
Troubling development. The vultures at IMF will be hovering in no time at all.

Posted by: MadMax2 | Jan 30 2017 12:00 utc | 288