https://gailmalone.wordpress.com/2016/11/09/conversations-from-syria-daraa-the-first-month-a-soldiers-story/
coroborated by http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2011/landis140411.html
(and more recently by Fisk’s interview of an army commander who says the gov was too mild)

Posted by: Mina | Jan 16 2017 20:27 utc | 203

The wife of the Orlando Nightclub gunman was arrested today. So I have given renewed thought to the attack with the benefit of addition info learned over the last 6 months.
The Orlando attack was the second attack on US soil and there’s reason to suspect that each of the couples involved were undercover. Undercover! – not acting on impulse but waiting for a command.
Some clues: these were both couples with children(!). One or both of members of the coupled ‘team’ had traveled to Saudi Arabia in recent years.
I have previously speculated that the San Bernadino attack was done because the bombing of the Russian Metrojet from Eqypt’s Sharm El Sheikh International Airport created a strange and incoherent disconnect that had to be addressed: The US had bombed ISIS for over a year but had not been attacked whereas Russia was attacked after bombing for ISIS for only a month!
It later became clear that US bombing was not nearly as robust as it could have been. Russian bombing of oil trucks made that clear. And just weeks prior, Obama had been embarrassed when a group of defense intelligence officials testified that their reporting on ISIS had been distorted
What then, might’ve been the intent behind the Orlando nightclub attack? I speculated at the time that, because San Bernadino was done AFTER an attack on Russia, the Orlando attack might’ve been done in anticipation of an ISIS attack on Russian interests.
But I’m not aware of any such major attack having ocurred. So we are left to (again) ponder: why? If the couple was ordered to conduct an attack, then there must’ve been a reason. In the absence of a reason, we have to question whether we can draw any connection at all between these two groups of attackers (despite the similarities).
So it behooves us to consider other possibilities:

(1) Related to Turkish coup attempt that occurred on July 15?
Rationale: Cover for US role in coup?
(2) Related to US elections?
A cursory investigation shows that TRUMP HAD JUST WON THE NOMINATION one week before. Furthermore, he poked fun at Hillary’s inability to secure her party’s nomination.
Rationale: An ISIS attack would play to Hillary’s strength in foreign affairs and her support for strong national security.
(3) Related to the ‘Assad must go!’ effort?
“Fighting ISIS” seems to be an excuse for stepping up the fight against Assad.
Rationale: There is well-known consternation regarding Obama’s unwillingness to commit US more fully in Syria (liberal interventionism). Might this attack have been aimed at prodding more US involvement?
(4) Something else?
(5) More than one of the above?

Here’s my thinking on the matter:

>> I discount (1) because the connection to the Turkish coup seeks strained. There was never any attempt to connect attacks on US with the need to depose Erdogan. And IIRC, part of the reason the coup was said to have failed is that the coup plotters accelerated their schedule so the time between the attack and the coup was planned would’ve been even longer than the 5 weeks that it was. Also, IMO there is a reasonable case to make that the attempted coup was a false flag to enable Erdogan to consolidate power (the CIA might’ve helped Erdogan!).
>> I discount (3) because there wasn’t a strong push to embarrass Obama for not “fighting them THERE so we don’t have to fight them HERE”.
>> I think (2) makes the most sense for three reasons:

1) Hillary quickly tried to use the attack to bolster her campaign with a lengthy statement that assumed that the attack was a terror attack. Sanders statement contemplated the possibility of a bias attack.
Then Hillary slammed Trump’s (predictable) response.
2) We have seen come to learn that the Clinton Foundation was allegedly taking lots of money from Sunni sources.
3) We have seen a determined effort by US intel agencies to block Trump. Intel agencies are the key players in the effort to remove Assad with extremists.

Look forward to any thoughts of others at the bar.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 16 2017 22:52 utc | 205

@208 jr… one wonders how much is involved in selling isis at home to help with the constant attack on any freedoms left.. expanding the perpetual war budget is a given.. saudi arabia is no friend of the usa’s… one wonders when the payback comes? are these one offs part of it? going in bed with the wahabbis never made any sense to me, other from an arm sales pov… i know about the petrodollars for weapons exchange.. nonsense factory articulates this fairly well… i quote them below..
@184 nonsense factory – “It’s the Gulf monarchies and their 1974 deal with the U.S. still propping it up – they get military and political support in exchange for having OPEC sell oil for dollars only. The Arab Spring was the greatest threat to their continued dictatorial rule, so the U.S. helped crush the Arab Spring in their countries (and in Libya and Syria, helped turn it into Wahhabi-Salafist terrorism). In exchange, they keep selling oil for dollars and depositing those dollars into sovereign wealth funds that park it in London & New York banks.”
personally i think your #3 is an ongoing given, doesn’t necessarily connect to the attack you reference directly, but is always ongoing as i see it..
they caught the guy who did the new years day attack in istanbul with his young kid with him.. one wonders about what they do with the wife and kids. regarding this san bernadino attack.. i can’t remember much about it other then it was some couple out of the blue. i doubt it was cover up for the attack on russian plane out of egypt.. i seem to recall that was a direct response to russias involvement in the syrian war.. russian tourists were still visiting egypt up til then. i don’t think i would make any connection between these 2 events myself.. maybe i am missing something.. i agree with you isis is the usa-saudi arabias dog – paid mercenary force.. all on the q t of course… the diez ezzor focus the past 24 hours is more of the same.. ash carter accidentially murders 60-100 syrian army people and they lose the hilltops overlooking diez ezzor and wouldn’t ya just know it – isis is much better positioned and going in at present.. coincidence shit like this is just to hard not to see thru.. the san bernadino thing seems like a separate thing to me..

Posted by: james | Jan 17 2017 1:53 utc | 207

@ Posted by: james | Jan 16, 2017 11:38:32 PM | 212
One has referred to Trolls, in one thread, once each, and not repeated. Explained in detail subsequent.
Given the posts at Libya thread 47, an outlandish personal slander & provable fiction/fraud, my considered reply at 50, the ‘content’, with supporting evidence/link, is somehow inappropriate, as a response ? Am confused …
One stands by my posts contents across ones entire, posting history …
May one ask why the concern with post numbers/by posters, as opposed to the posters posts, content ? Recall a jibe re the ‘Outraged Chronicles’ ? Or were these merely forgetting to add /snark ?
Alas, limited text only, often lacks nuance, may have misunderstood your position. If so, my error, and offer my apologies.
Cheers

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 17 2017 4:51 utc | 209

James, re San Bernardino:
6/20/16 https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/06/20/san-bernardino-terror-attack-did-a-major-news-outlet-accidentally-jump-the-gun/ Canada’s Postmedia published APs detailed story on San Bernardino “shooting” a day before it happened! across all its online news platforms, since erased (Sceenshots included).
This link gives you in-depth background to the hoax, including motive. http://lifttheveil411.com/san-bernardino-hoax-location

Posted by: Penelope | Jan 17 2017 5:02 utc | 211

@215 penelope.. thanks.. i never really followed it and was just responding to jfls comments about the possible motive behind it.. for all i know, it could be a manufactured hoax too.. i generally never watch videos, but prefer transcripts..

Posted by: james | Jan 17 2017 5:09 utc | 213

james 211
Palmyra ties into all of this. It was taken to prevent or slow down the Syrian gov forces from pushing through to Deir Ezzor while the main attack on D E occurred.
Good planning, weather forecasting ect ect all courtesy of the US embassy in ISIS country (CIA? whoever). Not to mention the US close air support for ISIS at the start of this operation.
The current attack on Deir Ezzor is a major operation with much planning and preparatory work gone into it.

Posted by: Peter AU | Jan 17 2017 5:54 utc | 215

Amazing, Obama keep provoking with only 1 week left!
“After angering Russia by sending thousands of troops to Poland, the United States has now deployed nearly 300 Marines to Norway, prompting serious warnings from Moscow.”
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/01/17/506530/US-Marines-Norway-Russia-Poland

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 17 2017 8:29 utc | 217

@ b
Thank you, re the cleanup. Kameraden. 😉
Had already surmised/realized some serious/extended account ID Hijacking was going on … cannot be sustained in extended engagement.
Is there any way to move to verified, registered or email associated accounts ? Just askin’ …

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 17 2017 12:39 utc | 219

Here’s a link to a review of William Pepper’s book describing how the US Government murdered MLKjr, http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46241.htm
I don’t know if b has ever written about this assassination. I used the results of the 1999 civil trial of the King family vs the USG, which proved USG guilty as charged, as a teaching tool to try and inform students of the Truth–a Truth all too many are completely ignorant about.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 17 2017 17:27 utc | 221

b
*Putting submarines below the sea surface to avoid detection is indeed a brilliant idea. How come we did not think of this?
But don’t fear. A few hundred billion dollars more for the Navy will be a great first step to counter this Chinese threat.
One or the other presidential candidate will soon make such bolstering of the Navy a core tenet of his or her program.*
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/08/pentagon-needs-money-to-counter-chinese-submarine-threat.html
warning !
Do skip pass my posts ,[ incendiary language] !

Posted by: denk | Jan 18 2017 2:51 utc | 223

@ Posted by: x | Jan 18, 2017 1:05:35 AM | 227
Recommended Link. Thank you kindly for posting it. 🙂
Cheers

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 18 2017 6:21 utc | 225

Donald *drain the swamp* trump is reeking like the swamp itself !
hhhhhh
http://journal-neo.org/2017/01/18/rex-tillerson-biggest-gator-in-the-swamp/

Posted by: denk | Jan 18 2017 9:48 utc | 227

Obama keeps provoking another world war,
Biden calls Russia threat to world order, warns of clash with West
http://presstv.com/Detail/2017/01/18/506729/US-Biden-Russia-Trump-hack

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 18 2017 13:23 utc | 229

See, my post would explain why Russia is such a ‘threat’, China as well. It’s also an explanation for the rise of the deplorables in the US. The middles of continents are the new power centers. Being landlocked isn’t such a bad thing. The seas are indeed becoming, sadly, uninhabitable, with surging currents, undersea earthquakes, tsunamis, while what is being done by the planet itself is a vast desalinization project in the sky – evaporation, rainfall, recycling of the increasingly dense ocean onto formerly cold and arid landscapes. The smaller lands surrounded by ocean have already started a rapid deformation – fracking is puny by comparison but it’s a good distraction for the energies of populations which might become troublesome in the great old urban centers. So are the other distractions – bigotry, race, gender, surveillance, finance – you name it. Above all, TINA, and above that unending war.
Maybe it’s not a manmade conspiracy. Maybe it’s just the way things are.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 18 2017 15:56 utc | 231

…
Hope that is of assistance/clarification 😉
Cheers
Posted by: Outraged | Jan 18, 2017 11:16:08 AM | 235
Unfortunately it wasn’t. It looked more like an exercise in obscurantism (changing the subject), to me.
Which part of #231 did you interpret as a plea for clarification?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 18 2017 17:31 utc | 233

Hoarsewhisperer @231
According to DOJ clemency rules, a pardon was never a possibility:

Pursuant to the Rules Governing Petitions for Executive Clemency, which are available on this website, a person is not eligible to apply for a presidential pardon until a minimum of five years has elapsed since his release from any form of confinement imposed upon him as part of a sentence for his most recent criminal conviction, whether or not that is the conviction for which he is seeking the pardon.

So Assange’s offer was a publicity stunt.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 18 2017 17:44 utc | 235

@ Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 18, 2017 12:44:12 PM | 238
Just clarifying, when one sometimes makes a post to ‘@ a poster ie jackrabbit’, it may be a mechanism to post to a wider audience(MOA) re ‘bouncing off’ the posts content … not necessarily, any form of criticism/disagreement of the post contents itself … sort of a rhetorical tool, re addressing the ‘House’ or ‘Senate’ or addressing a parliaments ‘Speaker’. Trust the previous made some sort of sense ? 🙂
The remaining small cluster is determined to disregard, *** Meta *** … will not likely, end well 🙁

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 18 2017 18:08 utc | 237

His lawyer has announced that Mr Assange will definitely NOT be turning himself in to AmeriKKKa (Al Jazeera 15 minutes ago).

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 18 2017 18:51 utc | 239

dh
He didnt, he said he would give himself in IF Manning was RELEASED. He wasnt. So it would be weird if MSM tells that, unless they deliberately wanto to spread fake-news.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 18 2017 19:10 utc | 241

@245 Hoarse is absolutely right. Manning hasn’t been pardoned so Assange pulled a fast one on the people who are out to get him. Let’s see how McCain reacts.

Posted by: dh | Jan 18 2017 20:04 utc | 243

RT report:
Trump’s UN pick Nikki Haley shows support for Israel, Nato, hard line on Russia, accusing Russia of genocide in Syria!

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 18 2017 22:15 utc | 245

It is kicking off as I feared, many people will make all sorts of justifications for the horror that will certainly ensue.

Tourists and Gambians have scrambled to leave the west African country after the Senegalese army said its forces would cross the border if long-time president Yahya Jammeh did not stand down.
Last-ditch efforts by the leaders of Mauritania and Senegal to persuade Jammeh to step aside peacefully after ruling for more than two decades appeared to have failed early on Thursday.

If one came over all 90’s and examined the subtext for the graun article it would be something like. “Western powers refuse to tolerate Jammeh any longer so we have cranked up the neighbours to kick him out. As per usual for these events we are attempting to limit the bumber of whitefella casualties in order to mitigate the blowback from bourgeois whitefellas in France, England and amerika. The unwhites? If they hadn’t wanted to be raped or murdered they shouldn’t have let themselves to be born in Africa”.
I expect all the usual justifications from Gambia = evil and Senegal= “really good people” to “what would you know? I’ve been there”.
Now I will concede that most of my trips to africa have favoured former englander colonies over former/current french possessions, but that is purely a function of my reality, – that my French considered passable in the South of France, but 100% untenable in & around Paris, travels worse than a nuit san georges, and it just dosn’t work in Africa. Even if locals put in the hard yards to understand what I am saying, I completely fail to comprehend them.
The coming invasion of Gambia and planned regime change is informed by one over arching fact that no amount of “I’ve been there and know” can ever alter.
That over-arching fact is that no matter how many Gambia citizens have been discomfited or even murdered by those loyal to Jammeh, those numbers will pale into insignificance against the tens of thousands who will be butchered and millions rendered homeless by an invasion and attempted regime change.
The fact is not the result of someone deciding to ‘take sides’ in an inevitable tragedy so I have ‘juked’ the facts to suit the side I have picked as if Gambia’s coming disaster is a game of football and I am choosing to be selective to favour ‘my team’.
That fact is based on observed reality. Observed in Iraq, israel, Libya and Haiti or any other example amnyone may care to name. Invasion and regime change is a ‘cure’ that is always worse than the disease

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jan 19 2017 4:14 utc | 247

@ Posted by: Debsisdead | Jan 18, 2017 11:14:17 PM | 250
Indeed. Faux R2P!
May one share one last time?
Visited Aus, as you mention in anecdotes often, in an official capacity in a former life. Was leading a small team examining AUS … ah, forgotten … Strategic Infrastructure, such as former dozens upon dozens of WWII B-17 distributed relay/staging airfields, even then overgrown and forgotten …
An AUS Army PR Flak and an enlisted Army medic were assigned to ‘chaperone’ us.
When we stopped in to visit an Indigenous ‘Station/reservation/settlement’, we were passing by … the medic and PR flak grandiosely stepped forward and openly declared the young smiling local children who ran up to us, as diseased, likely infected, and under no circumstances to come in physical contact with them, literally in the smiling cheerful children’s faces.
One pulled them aside and had a brief … conversion …
The team did exactly the opposite, one can proudly recall, and gave up whatever treats and personal luxuries we had with us. For what trivial difference that made in the scheme of things …
Was once at an embassy function … there were a couple of individuals from the South African embassy and two from the AUS military, we were socializing with … the then Apartheid era Afrikaaners suddenly blurted out that they admired the Aussies for having had the wit to deal with their kafirs properly, by shooting & poisoning & placing bounties on their heads until the Indigenous were virtually genocided … they claimed South Africa had always been … too soft … and were now paying the price!
The non SA in attendance promptly found reasons to be elsewhere, made their brief polite apologies and headed for the punch/lavatories/smoking den/fresh air, etc.
Always greatly valued your personal, heartfelt insights …
The Hasbarists/ProPornOT posters will not desist nor relent, re ad-hominem, nor with sowing dissent/discord re this poster, and one is too old and of insufficient health to struggle against that tide, virtually alone. Miss R’Giap …
Goodbye & Vale, pax tecum, Debsisdead

Posted by: Outraged | Jan 19 2017 4:54 utc | 249

I dunno how much the military types in Oz have changed since a previous government trying to rebalance some marginal electorates in NSW moved a couple regiments of infantry, same number of fighter bomber squadrons plus a newly constituted navy patrol base to my former balliwick in northern australia, but I do know that before that I was caught in a couple of blues with both Australian and US military during joint exercises conducted in the North. It always came down to the same thing the inability for australian or amerikan troops to understand indigenous australians role in the Top End.
The last and worst blue was after cricket training one night. Our club trained twice a week during the season, across all senior grades so I guess there was somewhere between 30 and 40 of us standing around in a garden bar that fronted onto the road. There were also two groups of soldiers still in fatigues one amerikan one australian. I dunno how many they were; each group was probably smaller than us but together they outnumbered the cricket club.
A couple of indigenous Australians walked past and shouted something out to the soldiers I heard something like “Good onya mate” but the soldiers claimed they believed the guys had insulted them.
It went downhill from there The indigenous people said something along the lines of “Why you being so rude brother. You’ve just been out in our country running around in your tanks scaring all the tucker away from the water holes & we welcomed you, but we come through here visiting, and you are rude to us.”
Of course the soldiers who deliberately or foolishly misunderstood what the blokes meant when they said our country, took offense by doing the usual redneck trick of insisting Australia was all one country etc.
About that time one of our fast bowlers who definitely suffered from fast bowler disease (an ability to turn from being a relatively normal chap into a ball of extremely focused aggression in an instant) decided this was beyond the pale and the indigenous blokes (who I reckon had been holding their own remarkably well for traditional people who are psychically disadvantaged when engaging people outside their ‘country’ or traditional territory) needed some evening up of the numbers.
The blue kicked off between the OZ & amerikan soldiers on one side and the cricket club plus a couple of yulgnu on the other side and in no time the garden bar furniture was kindling and most of is were covered in mud and blood and booze. The proprietor had switched to plastic jugs a while before so luckily the bar wasn’t able to be weaponised too much when a few prowler loads of local coppers and us & Oz MP’s fronted. Mein host who had called the coppers was anxious to avoid any of the cricket club from being arrested because in typical grog pusher thinking, we would be around next week, next year, next century as long as he didn’t offend us.
The MP’s weren’t gonna allow any soldiers to be plucked, so that just left the two Yolgnu blokes. That didn’t sit well with the local cops since a) they had no idea who the guys were and they could be extremely well connected chaps meaning big scandal coppers getting ass kicked etc, & b) they probably shared the same view as the cricket club, that these guys had a perfect right to walk down the road.
Fortunately for everyone concerned (except the diseased fast bowler) the indication these two blokes might be taken off for a night in the slammer, provoked him even more than the racist attitudes of the soldiers (incidentally there was a coupla african americans in the group and their attitude towards members of the longest surviving continuous human culture the world has seen, appeared no different than the other thick-witted bullies) so our bowler grabbed one of the cops and told him what he thought of gutlessly racist timeserving yes men.
In no time at all the cops had him manacled and in the back of a police truck, the two Yolgnu continued their walk to their uncle’s place, the asshole soldiers talked even more shit and the proprietor put a round up for the cricket club “being such good sports”.
There is no doubt that the military in societies such as Australia, where joining the armed forces is a choice and rarely if ever an economic neccessity, attract the type of rightist racist fuckwit who has no business being taught how to fight, but not all Oz soldiers are like that.
Many years ago there used to be a TV series called “Bush Tucker man” which was about an Oz officer who had been tasked with discovering the edible plants and easily catchable animal food sources across the north of Australia. His job was to get the traditional indigenous people to reveal their food sources, so in the event of Oz & Indonesia going to war and that war being fought in Australia’s north soldiers could feed and water themselves despite interrupted supply lines. That fellow, Hiddons, had pretty much the same attitude towards Yolgnu (awe at their steadfastness) as most other ‘top enders’.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jan 19 2017 6:51 utc | 251

@ProPeace #255 Yeah I saw something about that St Louis case and another equally horrifying ‘cavity’ search in another state a few days ago – it may have been in the intercept, I don’t remember.
The elephant in the room with these sort of illegal and just plain wrong instances of the destruction of a citizen’s right to be an unfettered individual by members of the very organisation which is tasked with protecting those rights, is that it empowers those trusted with policing power to fulfil their twisted fantasies.
The other day when I wrote about how bullying teachers would try to enforce discipline among us 12, 13 and 14 year old boys attending their school, by whipping them with a cane similar to those still used on criminals in parts of the ME & Asia outta the blue I remembered one ‘master’ who used to stick his hand down the back of our trousers for a good feel around because he claimed he “had to make sure we weren’t trying to avoid punishment by sticking out school cap down there to absorb some of the energy”.
Yeah right – the guy was just another twisted pedo whose sick fantasies were enabled by his unsupervised power over students.
I’m certain if ‘Officer Hawkins’ were to be properly investigated that her sick fantasies would be revealed.
One of the most insidious features of the way amerikan imperialism functions is the strategy of using disposable dysfunctionals at the pointy end of the murder, theft & rape, so that anything too egregious can be ‘solved’ by shit canning the shit-kicker.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jan 20 2017 3:20 utc | 253

The hate goes on,
12 year old kid sets fire in the streets, say “screw Trump”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNtNWRIiHyQ

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 20 2017 12:02 utc | 255

jfl
What is the baltics really? What is Poland? More and more it seems to be pure bricks of US and warmongers, and its not that they protest, no they WANT to be bricks. And then they whine about bad relations with Russia. JEsus what a weird mentality.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 20 2017 16:15 utc | 257

253
When Oz was bullied by East timor, whom did howard run to ?
papa Cheney , the ‘fixer’ !
hhhhhh
*One might have thought such a small country with so difficult a history might have been granted a few years of innocence as it finally achieved sovereignty. But no. The dread hand of American hegemony, corporate as well as diplomatic, was already in action, squeezing the embryo in the womb.
Unlike Bosnia, Cambodia, Haiti and Kosovo, where the UN recently had or still has advisory or administrative missions, East Timor is rich.
It has large oil and gas reserves under the sea which separates the country from Australia. Rare among small developing states, East Timor ought to be able to stand on its own feet and avoid foreign debt.
So, one of the first decisions the UN dministration took when it arrived in Dili in 1999 to help to prepare the country for independence was to open negotiations with Australia on a new energy treaty on East Timor’s behalf. It could have waited and left the issue for the Timorese to handle after independence. But UN officials felt they had to go forward, even though it put the UN in a unique position of sitting as an adversary across the table from a sovereign government, Australia, which is a wealthy and powerful member of the UN system.
The UN put up a tough fight to get a better deal from Australia and the mighty oil companies, including US-based Phillips Petroleum, than the one which Indonesia had made years earlier. The surprise came last year when the US started warning East Timor not to push Australia too hard [sic] shortly after Vice-President Dick Cheney had received Australian representatives in his Washington office. Mr Cheney is, of course, an oil-man with continuing contacts with businessmen but here he was, using the weight of his governmental position, to interfere in discussions between the UN and a foreign government.*
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/may/23/indonesia.comment

Posted by: denk | Jan 20 2017 16:59 utc | 259

Plane carrying Brazil Supreme Court judge Teori Zavascki crashes into sea
“Sao Paulo: Brazilian Supreme Court Justice Teori Zavascki was killed in a plane crash on Thursday, raising questions about who will take over his investigation into dozens of politicians in the country’s biggest ever corruption scandal.”

Posted by: Peter AU | Jan 20 2017 18:19 utc | 261

The”UKRAINE ON FIRE” documentary by Oliver Stone is finally available in English!
http://ccsubs.com/video/yt%3AuqVB3qY3Qwo/ukraine-on-fire-eng-sub/subtitles?lang=en
https://youtu.be/BQnsj8wKzXY
https://youtu.be/uqVB3qY3Qwo
Thanks Vlædimør!

Posted by: Akira | Jan 20 2017 22:53 utc | 263