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December 5, 2016
Syria Roundup: East-Aleppo Siege Nears Its End

This is the situation in east-Aleppo as of Dec 4, 6PM ET. The enclosed green area, held by al-Qaeda and its allies, will soon be gone.

Map via Fabrice Balanchebigger

The British Foreign Minister says that the foreseeable Syrian government victory in Aleppo will not be a gain at all. Bollocks. He and his colleagues have obviously given up on the case and now issue face saving laments. Syria's alliance is winning, U.S. policy is changing and the end of the war is now foreseeable. The British MI-6 propaganda operation "Bana Alabed" expired. The operation's main star was a seven year old girl in east-Aleppo who could not speak English but tweeted world politics in perfect Twitter-English even when the Internet in all Aleppo was down. It has now vanished. This is just like one of the first anti-Syrian propaganda operations, the "Gay girl in Damascus", which expired in 2011 shortly before its male U.S. operator in Scotland was exposed. What will all the media who have willfully fallen for this "Bana" nonsense now tell their viewers and readers?

Since the start of the Syrian army offense on the Takfiri held east-Aleppo some 21,000+ civilians have left towards the government held areas in the western part. Several news accounts confirm that these civilians had been held hostages by the Takfiris and had to flee under fire:

"We were under pressure by all means, psychological and financial. The gunmen were trying to prevent us from leaving until the army came," said 36-year-old Amina Rwein, who fled with her husband, seven daughters and three sons.

"We came under fire from the gunmen as we were leaving and the army hit the minaret from where the sniper was shooting, and then we crossed," she said.

About 500 fighters among those civilians gave themselves up to the Syrian army. 480 of them were locals and where led go after they pledged to end all fighting.

The remaining rebels want to stay in the city and continued fighting until the end. This sabotages plans by Secretary of State Kerry who tries to get another ceasefire in which some al-Qaeda fighters would leave but other Takfiris kept in control of east-Aleppo. Kerry was late anyway. That deal was no longer on the table. The EU has even worse ideas – it wants to bribe the Syrian government to keep some Jihadis alive and in power. What a joke! The Russian and Syrian forces will not leave any enemy fighter in the area alive or any inch of Aleppo city grounds occupied by them. Later the same will apply to all of Syria.

New controlled exits for civilians and fighters who want to leave will be set up soon. All the old exit areas in the northern parts are now completely under Syrian government control.

I doubt that there are many, if any civilians left. As my original estimated from October 15 said:

Based on the Daraya numbers and those of other sieges in Syria there are probably no more than 4-5,000 fighters and some 3-5 civilians per fighter, i.e. their immediate families, in east-Aleppo. The real total could easily be as low as 20,000.

The UN Refugees Agency and UN officials told fairy tales of some 270,000 civilians under siege in east-Aleppo. Numbers every "western" media repeated without caveats. More than 60% of the areas have been liberated. The International Red Cross went there and they were empty. Where are all those hundred-thousands civilians the UN envisioned now?

There are still daily missile attacks from the Takfiri held areas on the government held western areas and each of these is costing lives. UPDATE: According to SANA 8 people were killed and 25 wounded today when the Takfiris fired missiles into residential areas of west-Aleppo. A Russian field hospital set up over the last days to help refugees from east Aleppo came under attack from the "moderate" Takfiris. A female Russian doctor was killed, several other personal were wounded and the hospital was (pics) destroyed. /UPDATE

These attacks create urgency to drain the cauldron as soon as possible. There are several other reason, next to that urgency, why the attack on east-Aleppo proceeds much faster than expected.

Whenever the Syrian army and its allies slow down their attacks infighting keeps the Jihadists in the cauldron busy. Yesterday the al-Qaeda group Jabhat al-Nusra joined the CIA equipped Zinki group in attacks on the headquarters of some local armed groups who had control over stores filled with food and ammunition. Such moments of infighting are ideal for the attacking Syrian forces to go forward in unexpected ways.

The Syrian government forces do not proceed along the lines military professionals expected. They do not attack along main roads or obvious axes with enemy checkpoints and prepared traps but probe from every side until they find a weakness and then go through lightly defended densely build up areas to attack the checkpoint defenders from the rear. The 25,000 Syrian army fighters and the 10,000 foreign allies (4,000 from Iraq, 4,000 provided by Iran and 2,000 Hizbullah from Lebanon) have unprecedented air support from Syrian planes and helicopters. Reports of "Russian bombing" of east-Aleppo are all false and have been false for the last six weeks. Only the Syrian airforce is active in the area.

The general plan is to squeeze all the Takfiris into one small area in east-Aleppo (probably the "old city") and to then negotiate their departure to Idleb in north-west Syria. Idelb itself is already filled with infighting Jihadis of various stripes who were offered exit to it from several areas around Damascus, Homs and Hama. It will soon be a shooting alley for the Syrian and Russian air-forces. The Jihadis will flee to Turkey, which is a nightmare for Erdogan, and maybe onward from there into "western" European cities. There they will be pampered and rest until their masters call for another battle.

Comments

Interesting view of David Thomson, who interviewed thousand of djihadists online over the last decade. He says he was covering Tunisia in 2011-12 as a journalist and things got bitter when out of pure ingenuity, the transitory governement decided to give amnisty to all the prisoners, including the hard-core al-Qaeda (among whom was the team who killed Mas’ud in Afghanistan on 10 September 2011).
https://lesjours.fr/obsessions/les-jours-c-quoi/ep12-revenants-livre/

Posted by: Mina | Dec 6 2016 15:57 utc | 101

@100 ghostship.. thanks.. i am in agreement with your comments and overview here.. if any from the gcc’s had access to the us coalition command center info, they could certainly take advantage of that bit of info to continue on in their murderous ways.. that sounds most plausible.. i see this morning the us has dropped the aleppo proposals and are now working on an alternative plan..
what i wish the general public was more aware of is the idea that a country like the usa, or their partners like the gcc’s – all funding ”moderate”’ headchoppers, could actually have a better solution in not funding their mercenaries to continue spreading murder and mayhem in syria.. if the usa/gcc/coalition think this goes un-noticed by ordinary folks like me, they are dead wrong.. all the diplomatic posturing is just so much bullshit sitting next to their financial and military support for the continuation of trying to win militarily.. and, it registers with most folks that the USA IS IN BED WITH THEIR HEADCHOPPING JIHADI friends too..
listening to kirby, toner, or trudeau as spokespeople for the us state dept is indeed informative, but it is only a part of the picture – the public relations propaganda arm of the usa hydra..

Posted by: james | Dec 6 2016 16:12 utc | 102

@101
Helloooo? What does that have to do with whom China is sending a message to? China didn’t waste any time removing ambiguity in response to Trump’s hostile tweets; first vetoing the Resolution at the Security Council and then holding a press conference with Iran’s foreign minister warning the U.S. not to try to get out of the Iran deal or violate the accord with unilateral hostile measures. And the Chinese press is excoriating Trump for his recent comments on twitter.
https://www.rt.com/news/369281-china-iran-deal-trump/
http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/05/outraged-china-responds-to-trumps-twitter-comments/
And anyway spare me that spin about we don’t know til he takes the oath; Trump has already started to indicate the attitude he’s adopting in regards to China. You don’t take to twitter attacking a foreign nation. He couldn’t be more clear or consistent about his direction.

Posted by: Circe | Dec 6 2016 16:34 utc | 103

So much attention given toSyria by the US when its own offensive at Mosul is bogging down.
RT reports that the Pentagon has drawn up a ground op plan for Mosul that is awaiting Trump’s and Mattis’ approval (WTF??).
So Obama has punted on Iraq. Why should Russia take anything this administration comes up with seriously?
Trump’s first foreign policy challenge will be Iraq, not Syria. The US is irrelevant in Syria and is just going through empty motions as a distraction from that and from its failure so far in Mosul.

Posted by: woogs | Dec 6 2016 16:44 utc | 104

Trump’s first foreign policy challenge will be Iraq, not Syria. The US is irrelevant in Syria and is just going through empty motions as a distraction from that and from its failure so far in Mosul.
I hate to break it to you, and I’m only playing devil’s advocate I’m not at all endorsing U.S. policy, but the House just passed a bi-partisan bill that has a Syria No-Fy Zone section in it:
H.R. 5732: Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act of 2016
Sec. 303(a)(1)

Sec. 303.Assessment of potential effectiveness of and requirements for the establishment of safe zones or a no-fly zone in Syria
(a)In general.—
Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the President shall submit to the appropriate congressional committee a report that—
(1)assesses the potential effectiveness, risks, and operational requirements of the establishment and maintenance of a no-fly zone over part or all of Syria, including—
(A)the operational and legal requirements for United States and coalition air power to establish a no-fly zone in Syria;
(B)the impact a no-fly zone in Syria would have on humanitarian and counterterrorism efforts in Syria and the surrounding region; and
(C)the potential for force contributions from other countries to establish a no-fly zone in Syria; and

If it passed the Republican-controlled House, this doesn’t appear to be an empty motion.

Posted by: Circe | Dec 6 2016 17:21 utc | 105

Turkish speakers needed!
Erdo’s son in law (minister of energy) and his oil deal with IS
https://wikileaks.org/berats-box/article

Posted by: Mina | Dec 6 2016 17:26 utc | 106

Juan Cole used to be a solid analyst of mideast.
Never. He first became a known person on the intertubes because he was Bahai (or claimed to be so) and ran the very *first* pro-Bahai blog.
Cole is a pure bred US citizen, afaik, parents etc. Rural Virginia! No ties to Iran and so on, only to German and French ancestors? Whatever. (link is hyper laudatory BS)
http://www.juancole.com/about/toward-authorized-biography
Bahai, while very minor in nos. have huge influence. It is a syncretic, ‘modern’ religion, and of course anti-Iran though that stance is often obscured. The Bahai have reportedly been viciously repressed in Iran. The Bahai are the only religious body who have a special rep. seat at the UN, which is why I looked into that. Their religious seat, main office, is in Jerusalem.
Cole’s Bahai writings appear here, a pillar of the intellectual Bahai community.
http://bahai-library.com/author/Juan+Cole
see also
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/08/juan_cole_and_yale_the_inside.html
His Bahai blog has been scrubbed, could not find it, this wordy article reviews some of his Bahai ties, in pro-Cole discourse.
https://fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Cole.htm
I post this because of the ‘use religion’ tactic.

Posted by: Noirette | Dec 6 2016 17:34 utc | 107

>>>> Circe | Dec 6, 2016 12:21:42 PM | 106
It’s requiring the president to produce a report which is a pretty good way of doing nothing if that’s what the president wants to do. He hands the responsibility for the report to the most risk-adverse person he can find and the NFZ is dead.
As for Trump, at the moment the Republicans in Congress have more power than him. After his inauguration the power reverses and he is probably the more powerful. He has things he wants to do and the NFZ is needless interference that could blow up his presidency, literally, so he probably has no interest in it. I’d be surprised if it got any further.

Posted by: Ghostship | Dec 6 2016 17:37 utc | 108

Southfront
Or is the Obama administration stalling for time to extricate US mercenaries and special service members from the Aleppo pocket?
If these ‘supporters of Syrian democracy’ are captured alive or dead, the Syrian-Russian-Iranian alliance will be in possession of rock solid evidence of US special operations directly supporting terrorists in Syria.
https://southfront.org/the-us-seeks-to-free-officers-from-the-death-trap-in-aleppo-city/

Posted by: ALberto | Dec 6 2016 17:58 utc | 109

@104 he’s possibly going to be very hostile to Iran and China. Such hostility could easily undo his presidency and put USA in a very precarious position, leading to any number of war scenarios.
I got a strong sense from the recent SCS incidents that American military complex wanted to ‘do’ something to China in retaliation – perhaps a limited exchange scenario. Trump does not appear to be a peace-lover, and already has neocons around him..

Posted by: aaaa | Dec 6 2016 18:19 utc | 110

Lots of interesting ideas in this ‘great plan’
https://mosuleye.wordpress.com/2016/11/29/mosul-now-and-post-isil-part-ii/
but I wonder what Laguerre, who is a specialist of the area, thinks about it?
And how genuinely someone in Mosul today can be writing this kind of stuff?

Posted by: Mina | Dec 6 2016 18:32 utc | 111

@ 109
I hope that’s not Jackrabbit under a ghost moniker as I want nothing to do with that one, but let me just say that you’re in complete denial. You really think a majority ZionistNeocon Republican majority senate will reject the House decision when the Zionist Lobby is pushing this Legislation? Total denial.

Posted by: Circe | Dec 6 2016 18:33 utc | 112

@111
I went to RT about 3 hours ago and you could cut the irony with a knife! Lol. Looks like Russia is stealthily thumbing Trump on behalf of China.
There were at least 2 articles on China’s retaliatory comments to Trump tweets and change coming in U.S. China policy; this is just one of them:
https://www.rt.com/news/369362-trump-china-relations-taiwan/
there was this one on Iran:
https://www.rt.com/news/369334-iran-nuclear-deal-us/
and lol, this one!
https://www.rt.com/news/369376-iran-missiles-production-cheaper/
And this is really funny; they had this other article from end of October also up this morning!
https://www.rt.com/news/364148-russia-tests-hypersonic-glider/
It’s not up now; but I swear it was there this morning with this title:
Russia tests nuclear-capable hypersonic glider warhead!
The front page was loaded with not-so-subtle stuff.
Anyone think there’s a subliminal message there for Trump? You bet!

Posted by: Circe | Dec 6 2016 19:05 utc | 113

Petri Krohn @2
The presence of potassium permanganate and phosphine precursors is interesting. Phosphine is extremely reactive with air and halogens e.g. chlorine. If some of the plastic packs were included in each shell, the could be arranged to be ruptured by the fuse. Perhaps it would make a low explosive dispersant agent if introduced in any home-made chemical weapon? I would imagine high exlosives would excessively disperse the limited impure chlorine and/or reactively degrade it, reducing the already low efficacy of such weapons.

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 6 2016 19:08 utc | 114

@106: I’m a little surprised that a lame duck Congress (House) would not wait for the next session, and the next POTUS, before signing off on a major bill.
That being said, I still don’t see it coming to much of anything. It does show, however, just how stupid and uninformed our representatives are. They’ve swallowed every bit of anti-Assad propaganda hook, line and sinker and now feel compelled to codify their stupidity.

Posted by: woogs | Dec 6 2016 19:18 utc | 115

@everyone
Circe doesn’t want anything to do with me because our interaction on the Open Thread showed that he is here to attack Trump and he found that he could not convince me that his theories were correct or bargain for my silence.
FYI The mythological Circe is a temptress who leads men astray. She has magical powers that allows her to turn men into animals.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Dec 6 2016 20:37 utc | 116

@Jackrabbit:
COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum.
There are several techniques for the control and manipulation of a internet forum no matter what, or who is on it. We will go over each technique and demonstrate that only a minimal number of operatives can be used to eventually and effectively gain a control of a ‘uncontrolled forum.’
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Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes – without the requirement to ‘stage’ a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to ‘lead’ the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you ‘do not care what the authorities think!!’ inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.
Technique #6 – ‘GAINING FULL CONTROL’
It is important to also be harvesting and continually manoeuvring for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings – and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the ‘ultimate victory’ as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a ‘honey pot’ gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.
CONCLUSION
Remember these techniques are only effective if the forum participants DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM. Once they are aware of these techniques the operation can completely fail, and the forum can become uncontrolled. At this point other avenues must be considered such as initiating a false legal precedence to simply have the forum shut down and taken offline. This is not desirable as it then leaves the enforcement agencies unable to track the percentage of those in the population who always resist attempts for control against them. Many other techniques can be utilized and developed by the individual and as you develop further techniques of infiltration and control it is imperative to share then with HQ.
@Circe, so which is it?

Posted by: Lozion | Dec 6 2016 21:46 utc | 117

Brussels attacks prepared in the England?
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38223310

Posted by: Mina | Dec 6 2016 22:07 utc | 118

@ Circe 107
All that demonstrates is a big exercise by the Congress in hot air and wasted ink for media consumption.

Posted by: Thirdeye | Dec 6 2016 22:28 utc | 119

Great news. It looks like the SAA has taken almost all of the remaining “rebel” areas of eastern Aleppo:
@TheArabSource (Al-Masdar News)
@maytham956
@ShehabiFares
Independent journalist Rania Khalek has been tweeting a history of the “rebel” conquest and occupation of eastern Aleppo:
Rania Khalek
BBC news producer Wietske Burema tweeted a group of excellent photos from Aleppo:
Wietske Burema
For following news in Syria, I posted about 20 links to Twitter accounts and websites in comment 66 to the Open Thread 2016-40. A couple more I should have included are:
Al-Masdar News , a comprehensive English-language news source.
@Syria_Daily, which tweets photos and videos from Syria.

Posted by: Robin | Dec 6 2016 23:16 utc | 120

@107 On the contrary. It looks like a totally empty motion. Dunsford already said all that needs to be said…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmE9Jj-rEVs

Posted by: dh | Dec 6 2016 23:41 utc | 121

From Mercouris:
http://theduran.com/breaking-al-qaeda-commanders-negotiating-surrender-in-aleppo-jihadi-stronghold-collapsing/
Looks like thats it for the Jihadists in Aleppo..
Long live the SAA!

Posted by: Lozion | Dec 7 2016 0:10 utc | 122

@119
@Circe, so which is it?
None of the above –your own DENIAL maybe?
Not sure why you wasted all that space with so many words that mean absolutely nothing to me. Is all that some kind of exercise in paranoia? Just because someone doesn’t parrot the echo chamber and you have no convincing argument doesn’t justify accusing them of some hidden control agenda.
In any case; none of that complex-looking strategy is me (actually I only glanced at it; it’s too boring for me to waste any time on). I just call it like I see it. Don’t let it bother you that much; we can’t all think alike. Let’s just agree to disagree. I do hold a lot of the same ideas expressed on this site, but I just don’t trust Trump and for you he can do no wrong. It’s that simple. I’m just a plain old skeptic; nothing more. I should warn you though; people say I’m a human bullshit meter; and that my instincts are usually right; and I’m sticking with my instincts. Just saying.

Posted by: Circe | Dec 7 2016 2:12 utc | 123

Patriotic Pat (Lang, SST) is surprisingly enthusiastic and supportive of Russia & Syria’s efforts to cleanse Aleppo of Obama’s jihadis and has been confident since early December that the Syrian Govt will prevail.
His stance prompts one to speculate on how many other flag-waving ex US Military types share his view that AmeriKKKa is on the wrong side of History in Syria?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 7 2016 2:16 utc | 124

@126 I’ve seen enough news comments on alt.right websites to see hefty support for Russia/SAA against Al fucking Queda and ISIL.
Obama was at best an absentee president; Hillary was an assertive bloodthirsty feminist that SOULed out long ago at the alter of American neo-aristocracy.
All and all Russia will probably be proven to be victorious in Syria and beyond. What it leads to next is beyond me. I still consider Putin to be supershrewd and potentially neoliberal in scope; Trump administration, inc. might be the most treacherous administration in the history of America for all we know, and they could target China and Iran with economic and military hostility, especially if his domestic policies end up sucking.
The saga will continue

Posted by: aaaa | Dec 7 2016 3:52 utc | 125

@125 Why? Because you keep trumpeting (pun intended) the same arguments over and over to a point that your are polluting the comments section. OK we GET it, Trump is a sham and we’re going to war against Iran but when asked about how is he going to accomplish this militarily, especially now that the SAA is a 150 000 strong battle-hardened UNdefeated ally, you deflect or ignore the question which is the typical trait of a troll..

Posted by: Lozion | Dec 7 2016 4:32 utc | 126

you have no convincing argument
Circe ignores the reference to the Open Thread.
echo chamber
A dig at MoA?
too boring for me to waste time on
This statement is not consistent with Circe’s self-proclaimed anti-establishment views. He already said that he thought it didn’t apply to him. He didn’t need to say any more than that. He goes further because he wants to snuf out any discussion of organized efforts to influence public discussion?
I just call it like I see it
Really? He contradicts this assertion below.
Lets just agree to disagree.
He tried to reach a similar bargain with me.
I do hold a lot of the same ideas expressed on this site
Patronizing and so vague as to be meaningless.
I just don’t trust Trump
Circe has expressed a deep hatred for Trump. He claims that Trump is a Zionist stooge. His down-playing of his opposition to Trump is dishonest – especially when only a few lines before he told us that he “calls it like he sees it”!!
for you he can do no wrong
An unsupported assumption that reveals Circe’s “black and white” ideological thinking.
plain old skeptic … my instincts are usually right … warn you … people say
A curious mix of down-playing and reinforcing meant to disarm and push-back. His “instincts” on Trump seem to amount to little more than knee-jerk opposition. Circe claims to be nonpartisan and unconcerned with political efforts to unseat/undermine Trump. He’s only here to warn us about Trumps Zionist connections. But it seems that his “skeptical” “instincts” are only directed toward popular nationalist leaders (i.e. Trump).

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Dec 7 2016 5:06 utc | 127

Airforce attack on Syrian airbase reported by Israeli paper. No other sources for this story yet. Keep your eyes peeled.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/221370

Posted by: Wwinsti | Dec 7 2016 7:19 utc | 128

After todays shelling, now this? This is going to piss off the Bear..
https://www.rt.com/news/369441-russia-colonel-dies-syria/

Posted by: Lozion | Dec 7 2016 7:43 utc | 129

It seems that by the end of Dec. 7, the “East Aleppo” pocket will be by 1/3 smaller. Once the rebel are down on ammo, troops and spirit, the end can be fast. And the fortified/trapped perimeter is broken from North and East.
I think that the Syrian government and allies want to finish the pocket ASAP, and move into another direction, possibly ISIS territories to the north and east of Aleppo.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Dec 7 2016 13:02 utc | 130

Wwinsti @ 130
Airforce attack on Syrian airbase reported by Israeli paper. No other sources for this story yet. Keep your eyes peeled.
Israel’s just taking advantage of the Syrian army’s business in dealing with NATO’s rats.. But the situation won’t hold for long.
Israel’s just testing the incoming US administration as to how much support they have – they always do this..
I have a feeling one of these days Syria will respond massively to these silly little airstrikes and they will be perfectly justified…There’s a limit to so much sh*t one can take..

Posted by: Zico | Dec 7 2016 14:21 utc | 131

Cole is probably more an expert on the Mid East than a poorly informed Swiss observer is on US politics. Or anything else. for that matter.

Posted by: all news all the time | Dec 7 2016 14:38 utc | 132

the latest from Juan Cole
The crushing of the rebellion is a tragedy, since Syria has a seedy one-party state that tortures people to death and brooks no criticism.
http://www.juancole.com/2016/12/districts-aleppo-militia.html

Posted by: mauisurfer | Dec 7 2016 15:00 utc | 133

mauisurfer @135: You skipped the next sentences of Juan Cole “But the rebellion also did lose its soul on the whole, moving toward hard line fundamentalism and pledging to ethnically cleanse 2 million Alawite Shiites. It will take decades for Syria to recover from this moment of”
Cole is a thoughtful person, and he is not shilling against opponents according to a profitable agenda. Clearly, he is reluctant to get rid of the perspective share by many progressive people several years ago. I grew up under a mildly repressive regime, so I am predisposed to a more nuanced perspective. I mean, a “regime” typically cares about the people, sometimes aptly and sometimes ineptly. Restoring law and order by demolishing whole cities is “less than ideal”, and as we now know, it can be done by a democratically elected government. And many revolutions are hard to evaluate: bad or good. We got metric system and ideas of “equality, fraternity and liberty”, plus Red Terror, White Terror and a whirlpool of wars all across the Europe. At least we are not forced to measure gas pressure in pounds per square inch (some benighted folks do it even today, believe me or not). And some revolutions are a total waste.
In retrospect, Arab Spring led to some kind of democracy in Tunisia, restoration of kleptocracy in Egypt, hellish wars in Libya, Yemen, Iraq and Syria, and the fall of democracy in Turkey. Perhaps the next revolutionary wave will gain from bad experience, but one should recognize than a simplistic perspective sometimes beats a subtle one. Give this credit to Juan Cole: he is not sure of himself, even if he is a bit slow on the uptake. Note the unfinished sentence at the end of his piece: he learned that it is hard to advise and predict.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Dec 7 2016 15:45 utc | 134

Zico, @133
Well, seeing as the Congress just approved the shipment of MANPADS to whatever group of rebels penciled in all the right answers on the questionnaire…

Posted by: Wwinsti | Dec 7 2016 15:51 utc | 135

By Lisa Barrington and Tom Perry | BEIRUT
Syrian rebels in besieged eastern Aleppo called on Wednesday for an immediate five-day ceasefire and the evacuation of civilians and wounded, but gave no indication they were ready to withdraw as demanded by Damascus and Moscow.
The Syrian army and allied forces have made rapid gains against insurgents in the past two weeks and look closer than ever to restoring full control over Aleppo, Syria’s most populous city before the war, and achieving their most important victory of the conflict now in its sixth year.
In a statement calling for the truce, the rebels made no mention of evacuating the several thousand fighters who are defending an ever shrinking area of eastern Aleppo.
Syria and Russia, which supports Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, have said they want rebels to leave Aleppo and will not consider a ceasefire unless that happens.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-mideast-crisis-syria-idUKKBN13W1NM

Posted by: okie farmer | Dec 7 2016 16:11 utc | 136

cole goes on about how terrible it is that syria tortures people
but cole fails to mention that usa cia kidnapped people off the streets of rome
and sent them to syria to be tortured
as bert kobayashi used to say
cole is a “sanctimonious fart”

Posted by: mauisurfer | Dec 7 2016 18:40 utc | 137

Re #139:
Actually, the chaps sent to Syria were lucky. Maher was tortured, once interrogators figured that he knows nothing of value they stopped and he was released in a year, going back to Canada to chagrin of USA (and Canada, I guess). Compared with guys who were tortured for years and years in Guantanamo.
This is a despicable practice, but all governments from Rabat to Islamabad (and beyond, I guess) do it, well, for practical reasons. The fact that they deal with head choppers etc. does not improve their adherence to international conventions.
Police brutality, death penalty etc. are sadly popular in many places, like Iran, Texas, Kern County California etc. Other people are fond of “humanitarian interventions”. Five years ago it was not obvious to me, but advocating humanitarian intervention to eliminate torture is like Iranians being appalled by the barbaric Saudi practice of head chopping, and Saudis deploring hangings in Iran (what we do is civilized, what they do is barbaric).
One problem with admitting that is the nagging question: so nothing can be done? I think that progress is possible, and sanctimonious farts have an important part here. We should just recognize that sanctimony yields only slow progress, and interventions unleash demons that set the civilization back by decades. Thus sanctimonious farts should stick to what they do well.
With high regards to Juan Cole and mauisurfer.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Dec 7 2016 19:13 utc | 138

133 Zico
Not an airstrike but a sol sol missile according to Maytham956 on twitter

Posted by: Mina | Dec 7 2016 19:16 utc | 139

By the way, perhaps the most frequent form of cruelty is running websites with very annoying features, usually related to ads. Whoever runs this universe, please bless b for refraining from anything of the sort.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Dec 7 2016 19:16 utc | 140

Meet the new leader of the anti-Iran coalition
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/251577/World/Region/Britains-May-says-to-help-Gulf-leaders-push-back-I.aspx

Posted by: Mina | Dec 7 2016 19:41 utc | 141