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November 15, 2016

Trump Rejects Neocon Turncoats - Russia Launches Aleppo Campaign

Wikipedia: Eliot A. Cohen

... co-founded the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), which was a center for prominent neoconservatives. He has been a member of the Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee, a committee of civilians and retired military officers that the U.S. Secretary of Defense may call upon for advice, that was instituted during the administration of President George W. Bush. He was put on the board after acquaintance Richard Perle put forward his name. Cohen has referred to the War on Terrorism as “World War IV”. In the run-up to the 2003 Invasion of Iraq, he was a member of Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, a group of prominent persons who pressed for an invasion.

Cohen in WaPo May 3 2016:

It’s over. Donald Trump, a man utterly unfit for the position by temperament, values and policy preferences, will be the Republican nominee for president. He will run against Hillary Clinton, who is easily the lesser evil ...

Cohen in the NYT on May 17 2016:

Mr. Trump’s temperament, his proclivity for insult and deceit and his advocacy of unpredictability would make him a presidential disaster — especially in the conduct of foreign policy, where clarity and consistency matter.
...
Hillary Clinton is far better: She believes in the old consensus and will take tough lines on China and, increasingly, Russia.

Cohen in The American Interest on November 10 2016 (immediately after Trump won):

Trump may be better than we think. He does not have strong principles about much, which means he can shift. He is clearly willing to delegate legislation to Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. And even abroad, his instincts incline him to increase U.S. strength—and to push back even against Russia if, as will surely happen, Putin double-crosses him. My guess is that sequester gets rolled back, as do lots of stupid regulations, and experiments in nudging and nagging Americans to behave the way progressives think they should.

Cohen on Twitter November 15 2016

Eliot A Cohen @EliotACohen

After exchange w Trump transition team, changed my recommendation: stay away. They're angry, arrogant, screaming "you LOST!" Will be ugly.

Retweets 3,719 Likes 3,204
5:07 AM - 15 Nov 2016

I find the above very funny. How could that turncoat think he would be greeted by the Trump organization with anything but derision? Cohen believed he and his ilk would be welcome with candies and roses after insulting Trump in all major media? Who is the arrogant one in the above?

Oh, by the way. Here is a headline from October 2013: President Obama to Republicans: I won. Deal with it. I do not remember Cohen, or anyone else, calling that "arrogant".

While the papers are full of (badly) informed rumors about who will get this or that position in a Trump administration let's keep in mind that 90% of such rumors are just self promotions by people like Cohen who shill for the rumored job. That is why I will not write about John Bolton or Rudy  Giuliani as coming Secretary of State. Both are possible (unqualified) candidates. But others are just as likely to get that position. We will only know who it is after the official release.

Meanwhile Trump yesterday had a phonecall with the Russian President Putin. They discussed bilateral relations, Syria and fighting terrorism. Today the Russian and Syrian military started the long expected big campaign against the "moderate" al-Qaeda in east-Aleppo city and Idleb governate. Air strikes on east-Aleppo had been held back for 28 days. Today missiles and cruise missiles were launched against fixed targets and dozens of carrier and land launched airplanes attacked Nusra position on the various front and in its rear. Long range bombers flown from Russia joined the campaign. Trump seems to have voiced no objections to this offensive.

The Russian military has upped its air defense in Syria. Additional to the S-400 system around its airport in Latakia seven S-300 systems were deployed as a screen against U.S. cruise missile attacks. These are joined by rehabilitated Syrian S-200 system and Pantsyr S-1 short range systems for point defense. This should be enough to deter any stupid idea the Pentagon hawks, or dumb neocons like Eliot Cohen, might have.

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@Posted by: Ron Showalter | Nov 15, 2016 1:19:02 PM | 11,

your devotion to this fascist girl-raping piece of garbage, Trump?

Besides being wrong on the facts, you’re hyperbole is jejune.

Posted by: MRW | Nov 16, 2016 10:24:14 PM | 201

OT - i was reading the usa state dept press release for today nov 16th and found it pretty interesting.. i see rt picked up a bit of it and is running with it now too..

Posted by: james | Nov 16, 2016 11:08:52 PM | 202

Debtisdead,

Very well said mate, 100% spot on.

Shallowater,

I hope that your new avatar means less classicist bullshit and less Blairite Trostkyism, Roofus. Also less flooding MoA pls.

Posted by: Quadriad | Nov 16, 2016 11:20:44 PM | 203

I think b would do the world a good service if he would describe rufie's sordid history at MoA in a post. The pretenses, the obfuscations, the combativeness, the (probable) use of dummy accounts, etc. He is an excellent example of the devious bullshit that is foisted upon the world by the interests which he slyly advocates for.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 16, 2016 11:51:14 PM | 204

I think we an surmise that rufie wanted to shed his Hillbot persona in order to attack Trump without that partisan baggage.

He chose to enhance the anti-Trump messaging of his new persona ("Ron Showalter") with a false-flag attack that appeared to be conducted by someone that was trying to discredit his former pro-Hillary persona.

It's as devilishly clever as it is disturbing. How many other 'rufies' are out there doing WHATEVER-IT-TAKES to destroy Trump and any reasoned dialogue?

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 16, 2016 11:53:59 PM | 205

rufie made himself the prime suspect of the attack on MoA when he wrote @173:

As soon as I post links to how the election was stolen, someone takes rufus' name and then tries to destroy the thread both times.

But we now know, with a reasonably high degree of certainty, that Ron is rufie. Further, why would Ron/rufie think that HIS message was targeted - everyone else naturally thought that the target was the MoA blog!!!

This 'musing' makes no sense except to guide readers to a conclusion that was set-up by Ron/rufie.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 17, 2016 12:13:08 AM | 206

Correcting the structure of my last comment and editing for clarification:

= = = = = =

rufie/Ron made himself the prime suspect of the attack on MoA when he wrote @173:

As soon as I post links to how the election was stolen, someone takes rufus' name and then tries to destroy the thread both times.
Why would rufie/Ron think that HIS message was targeted?? Everyone else (naturally) thought that the target was the MoA blog!!!

This 'musing' makes no sense except as a set-up - to guide readers to a certain conclusion based on a fact pattern that rufie/Ron had contrived.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 17, 2016 12:26:06 AM | 207

Canadian PM urges global financial elite to join privatization drive


In the name of “growing” the economy and the “middle class,” Trudeau and his Liberals intend to initiate a wave of privatizations and attract private investment for new “public” infrastructure projects by guaranteeing investors “internationally competitive returns” on their investments through the imposition of tolls, user fees, and other charges.

A high degree of secrecy surrounded Monday’s meetings. Trudeau gave a brief press conference after the second gathering, which included asset management firms controlling $21 trillion. Representatives came from sovereign wealth funds from Norway, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, as well as from foreign insurers, pension funds and banks.

The Trudeau government’s plans are modelled on the privatization drive launched by Britain’s Tony Blair-led Labour government, one of whose top policy advisers attended two cabinet retreats earlier this year. It also draws heavily on the perspective laid out in a book by former Economist editors John Micklethwait and Adrian Wooldwridge entitled The Fourth Revolution, which argues that governments should develop closer cooperation with private investors and corporations to privatize public services and reduce the size of government. Micklethwaite and Woolwridge contend that Thatcher and Reagan accomplished only a “half revolution” with their assault on the working class during the 1980s and that governments have to go much further so as to reduce the state to a size more akin to the “watchman state” of the 19th century.

Entirely predictably, Trudeau’s 2015 election rhetoric about “change” and “caring” for working people has turned out to be all lies.


This is what Trump has in mind for the USA as well. In Chicago, Obama's Israeli minder Rahm Emmanual famously did the same sort of deal with the city's parking meters ...

Parking meters, garages took in $156M — but city won’t see a cent


Chicago Parking Meters — formed by banking giant Morgan Stanley and other financial partners — paid the city $1.15 billion to manage the meter system and pocket the money fed into it for the next 75 years.

The city took in $23.8 million from the meters in 2008, the last year before CPM took over the system.

In the seven years since, the meter company has reported a total of $778.6 million in revenues. It’s on pace to make back what it paid the city by 2020, with more than 60 years of meter money still to come.


There's no doubt in my mind that Trump is bad for the USA across the board. As would Hillary have been. We ... I ... keep grasping at the straw of Trump somehow throttling down Clinton/Bush/Obama aggression - death, devastation, and destruction - around the world. We've been primed for 'change' there. We'll see. b puts Obama's targetting of al-CIAduh honchos down to Trump, somehow, it occurs to others - and makes sense to me - that Obama just wants to make sure that the people who 'know to much' about his 'foreign legion' are all dead by the time he leaves office. Whether Trump does end Syrian regime change efforts or not, he does seem bent on exposing Obama's complicity with al-CIAduh and ISIS. Trump's a performer. His presidency is going to be a four year campaign, running against Obama/Clinton.

Posted by: jfl | Nov 17, 2016 7:24:44 AM | 208

Wow all this just because I embarrassed u in front of your "friends" here?

Um, I've been lurking here since long before u got yr silly ass banned from naked capitalism, sherlock, when posters of substance like pragma and rb were doing their thing so quit kissing b's ass he doesn't like that sh!te.

If it's any consolation b also knows that your conjectures are wrong and that you're making a gd fool of yourself.

Posted by: Ron Showalter | Nov 17, 2016 8:18:31 AM | 209

Ron Showalter sounds a lot like Fats Domino from syrianPerspective... same snarky, contrarian without substance IMHO

Posted by: xLemming | Nov 17, 2016 8:46:02 AM | 210

Since when did jeff sessions become a respectable human being and not mccain's and lieberman's third stooge.

Posted by: pA | Nov 17, 2016 9:00:54 AM | 211

@Ron/rufie

I'm convinced that you are rufie. My conjecture logically follows from that and your the comments you've made.

As I said above, a jerk-off like "Ron" would not be able to restrain himself so the claim that "Ron" has been lurking is laughable.

I've had enough interaction with you over the last 15 months know you and how you operate, rufie. Your dumbfuckery got the better of you (again) and you outed yourself.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 17, 2016 9:18:18 AM | 212

@jfl 206

Yeah, any honest appraisal on Trump's fiscal policies don't look great for middle America - though, spending money on defence and not pre-emptive strikes (GWB) and covert war (BarryO) would be a solid win.

It has been quite something, delightful really, to witness the neocon flight from the rethugs, and choosing the wrong side with Hillary...and, right now as I enjoy the wounded tentacles of the global neoliberal beast thrashing around at anything that moves while the ghost of the left is still wondering why people would choose Trump ---> STILL totally oblivious to the fact they had been seduced by both the neocons and neolibs.

If Trump was really serious, he'd be using the biggest secret hidden in plain sight, and rolling the printers for the people. Though, it is am exactly that type of monetary policy that you have your heart punctured for or lose a good part of your skull over.

A good read for those who believe in sovereign money.

Trump’s $1 Trillion Infrastructure Plan: Lincoln Had a Bolder Solution
By Ellen Brown
(US)
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_582ce9d2e4b0eaa5f14d3ff8

...

Brexit, Trump... Italy next...? The left and right team up to do battle in Round 3.


Why Italy is the next country to fall to Trumpism (Ire)
http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2016/11/17/why-italy-is-the-next-country-to-fall-to-trumpism

...

And a really great blog post over at GolemXIV. David Malone breaks down the real battle lines of today. Gone is the left vs right paradigm...it is now Local vs Global. For those that enjoy the comments section of MofA as much as the blog posts themselves, you'll enjoy the climate.

Culture Matters (UK)
http://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2016/11/culture-matters/

Posted by: MadMax2 | Nov 17, 2016 9:41:58 AM | 213

Debsisdead@198

You could well be correct about what was going on under Lange - I was in New Zealand when the Rainbow Warrior was sunk, just a little way up the coast, so I remember the country in the 80's. But I knew next to nothing about the political situation, just that the nuclear issue became New Zealand's pride and I have always been glad they never took on the nuclear burden. Can you imagine what would have happened with an earthquake such as this one? Bad enough the economy of Kaikoura has been destroyed even with no tsunami to speak of, but in the course of natural human activity the damage will be overcome. You can't say that when nuclear is involved.

I used to not know even what government was running things - that was before the internet. And just what I was able to glean from letters and the occasional phone call, on the surface the country remained much as it had been until the big corporations started moving in - I'll say it was phone companies for a start, suddenly you didn't have to wait a month for a new phone, and my relatives could more easily call me here in the US and chat. New Zealand was always friendly to the US deep down because during WW2 all their fighting men were off overseas, my father among them. We were sitting ducks for the Japanese and we knew it; then the Yanks came down. As a child they were my heroes. So I guess you could say we were ripe for the picking.

Posted by: juliania | Nov 17, 2016 10:11:20 AM | 214

@211 Maybe I read it too fast but I didn't see any reference to colonialism in that essay about culture. There's no denying that Western Europeans were the ones who dominated the world for the past few centuries. One can argue about the effects being good or bad but it seems to be an article of faith among certain people that immigration from former colonies is just chickens coming home to roost i.e payback. In other words the West, especially white Anglo-Saxons, only have themselves to blame.

Posted by: dh | Nov 17, 2016 10:17:27 AM | 215

One further thought to 212 above:

Your last comment, Debsisdead, may also be on the mark, but just as Kiwis were very much formed to the US pattern during WW2 (with the exception of nuclear) so too they do have the capacity to change, just as does the US citizenry. And change the latter has in this recent election, following the impulse, I believe, of the 2008 election - both imminently flawed by electoral shenanigans on both sides of the duopoly but ultimately the tsunami could not be resisted. That's my take. And just as the US electorate was not held back by the clear and hyped horrors of a Trump presidency, so eventually (and how long it takes I don't know) the kiwis will also rise against the fake politics they are still unmindful of.

I am, as is everyone, extremely curious as to what will happen when Donald Trump becomes president. Something happens to people as they assume that mantle. They become a new person, the way you become a new person in many religions when you accept that faith. Four years isn't really very long. It's possible to stay that person during that time. Unfortunately the new person Obama became isn't one Americans can be proud of. I'm hoping Trump will try to become a better one. The signs are good that he will.

Posted by: juliania | Nov 17, 2016 10:27:14 AM | 216

j @ 214 said: " Unfortunately the new person Obama became isn't one Americans can be proud of. I'm hoping Trump will try to become a better one".

True that. Becoming a "better one", given his history, will be hard, but, I'll hope for the best.

Posted by: ben | Nov 17, 2016 10:49:29 AM | 217

ben@215:

Thanks. As I said, the signs are good. And thanks also to jdmckay@181 for the important link to Marcy's brief post. I hope she won't mind if I copy in her conclusion:

". . . One of the first things Trump has done has been to ensure agreement in its national security team on this point: that by letting our Middle Eastern allies arm al Qaeda-allied fighters, the Obama Administration created the mess that is in Syria.

And unanimity on that point — accompanied by what is sure to be a very ugly campaign of recriminations against the Obama Administration for cooking intelligence (even aside from the merit of this claim, Flynn has been bitter about his firing for what he sees as objecting to this cooked intelligence) — will provide the basis for Trump to work with Putin on ending the civil war in Syria to Bashar al-Assad’s advantage. . ."

Her piece breaks down what Trump is accomplishing with his 'transition team' and why the players are shifting. I always thought there were serious issues with how Benghazi featured in Congressional hearings and the message abroad of 'nothing to see here' - because there WAS something to see. Thank you, jdmckay, and thank you, Marcy, though I would add to the above, being so prejudiced, ". . . and to the advantage of the Syrian people."

Posted by: juliania | Nov 17, 2016 10:58:32 AM | 219

Does any of the commentariat at MoA have a connection to b? I am starting to be concerned about him given the lack of new postings. Does anyone have any idea how we can follow up on his whereabouts and condition? He is a great host and I would be sorry to see something happen to him.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 17, 2016 11:00:54 AM | 220

@213 dh
I would agree, and might add that their must be some feeling of schadenfreude involved by adversely affect countries when seeing misfortune befalling current and past colonial powers.

And, even with colonial history set aside, if we take the last 15 years into account...western peoples would accept the moral responsibility of accepting peoples who have been displaced by the 'spread of democracy' or 'tyrannical regimes.'

However, due to the media at large operating more as 'narrative stenographer' and not functioning as it should - that is, as an adversarial check upon state power - the people do not understand what is done in their name.

And still, it matters not, the west only has itself to blame.

Those that would trade their freedoms' for security deserve neither.

Posted by: MadMax2 | Nov 17, 2016 11:14:23 AM | 221

@219 Perhaps it was just the times. The Portuguese were natural seafarers and explorers, the Spanish 'discovered' the New World, the English built fine ships etc....trade was the name of the game at first.....nowadays known as exploitation, but I'm not sure Westerners had a monopoly on that.

Posted by: dh | Nov 17, 2016 11:23:23 AM | 222

A brief e-mail exchange with the CBC on its reporting on Syria:

Just watched your report from "regime controlled" area. Shame. As a matter of fact, there was a complete cessation of bombing of East Aleppo NOT "for about three weeks" but actually for over four weeks, during which your East Aleppo clients have shelled civilians in "regime controlled" West Aleppo relentlessly. But, not worth reporting I guess.

Also, nice shot of White Helmets: they don't seem to ever rescue adults or use spine boards and they only operate in "moderate terrorist" controlled areas. Know who funds them?

How about reporting on how they use snipers to shoot anyone who tries to leave East Aleppo? What about their refusal to allow anyone to use the humanitarian corridors that were not bombed for almost a month?

Is that too difficult? What is your agenda - it's sure not honest reporting.


In spite of all of which, regards and best of luck to you personally.

A very disappointed, former CBC supporter,


________________________________________________________________________________________________

Thank-you for your response and for taking the time to write. If you are going to criticize our coverage I would encourage you to watch all of it. We certainly have reported on allegations that people are being held in East Aleppo against their will extensively. And one of our reports this week featured a young man shot through the stomach by a sniper from the eastern side into the west.

Again, thank-you for taking the time to write.

Best wishes,

_______________________________________________________________________________________________

Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately I cannot watch all of the reports on CBC news - there are other news sources that I find more objective and I actually have other uses for my time, as I'm sure you can understand.

In any case, if I watch one report, shouldn't I get an objective view - or at least a non-misleading view?

However, you did not address the "about three weeks" which is patently false. Nor, the daily shelling by the terrorists supported by our governments - and, according to e-mail revelations - .the terrorists who are funded by Saudi Arabia "worldwide" if we can believe Secretary Clinton's e-mails. White Helmets are a joke and I'm sure you know it.

When will you mention the terrorists attacks, including chemical weapons, on civilians in West Aleppo? (Re allegations of Assad using chemical weapons, see the comments General Dempsey made to Barack Obama.)

"Assad must go" because he'd win any free and fair election and he turned down the Qatar pipeline proposal. Again, Wikileaks has made this clear.

Maybe you should talk or listen to Eva Bartlett who has a lot more field experience in Syria

I won't further trouble you, but I sincerely wish you safety courtesy of the Assad “regime”- the legitimate government of Syria which you seem to want to help overthrow - and the Syrian Arab Army.

Best wishes,

_____________________________________________________________________________________________


Good luck to you

Posted by: spudski | Nov 17, 2016 11:32:07 AM | 223

Refugee crisis in America and Europe;Zionist payback for goyim dislike of fifth column scumbags.Any Anglo Saxon responsibility is for letting these traitors take over our governments.

Posted by: dahoit | Nov 17, 2016 11:49:18 AM | 224

196

You're going to wait a long time before Trump rides in on his White Unicorn farting rainbows. The RNC scum will never approve BOTG in Syria or Iraq. Any funding for 'contingency action' against AlNusra and ISIS will be disappeared by the same Deep State that already disappered $6,000,000,000,000 at the Pentagon. To give you a feel for that $6,000,000,000,000-still-MIA, the Commerce Department estimates that the value of America's 234,000,000 vehicles is $1.3T. So if you went out and bought three more vehicles, and your friends and neighbors went out and bought three more vehicles, each, and everyone in the USA went out and bought three more vehicles for themselves, then on April 15th, everyone's vehicles were raptured away off to Europa, ...that still does not exceed the depredations of the One Party Deep State!

E pluribus quia nihil impium

Posted by: chipnik | Nov 17, 2016 12:09:20 PM | 225

@ chipnik

I take it latin is not your native tongue. Here is what I got for a translation of your phrase which I don't think is what you meant.

E pluribus quia nihil impium = Out of many, there is nothing wicked

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 17, 2016 12:38:40 PM | 226

Ron is not Rufus. Rufus at least had a sense of humor and a certain decorum in wit.

Posted by: dan | Nov 17, 2016 1:11:53 PM | 227

Did those that want to focus on Zionism instead of private finance read jfl's comment above at # 209

Here is just a bit he quoted from another source:
"
A high degree of secrecy surrounded Monday’s meetings. Trudeau gave a brief press conference after the second gathering, which included asset management firms controlling $21 trillion. Representatives came from sovereign wealth funds from Norway, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, as well as from foreign insurers, pension funds and banks.
"

Are you going to track down all of these private finance sources and add them to your Zionist list? Why not attack the root of the cancer that is infecting our form of social organization, private finance and the unfettered inheritance laws that keep those folks and families in control?

Yes, I understand that Norway MAY be an exception to the the others but it is my understanding that they are NOT a totally sovereign country from a financial standpoint.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 17, 2016 1:35:23 PM | 228

Psychohistorian, that's not how I would translate "E pluribus quia nihil impium". I would translate "Out of many, because nothing is wicked (or impious)."

My Latin is pretty rusty at this point, but I do have three degrees in Classics, including a First in Greats from Oxford and a Harvard Ph.D.

Posted by: lysias | Nov 17, 2016 1:45:59 PM | 229

@ lysias,

Thank you for the latin translation. Mine was only from an online tool and I only had 3 years of it in high school.

I have always been impressed by the original motto of the US (E Pluribus Unum) and think it is quite telling of the American demise by the one imposed back in the 1950's that tell us to have faith in the Xtian God....and those bankers that say they are doing God's work....

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 17, 2016 1:53:48 PM | 230

@224 spudski.. thanks for writing cbc and expressing what others like myself associate with.. challenging them is good..

@228 dan.. i see it the same as you with that.. thanks..

Posted by: james | Nov 17, 2016 3:28:08 PM | 231

"Trump rejects Neocon turncoats" what a joke! He has the biggest and the most poisonous snake right up his sleeve! His son-in-law. Most fervent and the die-hard Israel firster to whom Trump wants to have our nation's most sensitive national security information on daily basis. What short-signted debacle of highest degree! I hope he transcends nepotism and could see what the American masses have elected him for.

Posted by: Mohammed Cohen | Nov 18, 2016 12:11:07 AM | 232

Good news, ex-general Flynn to be elected to Trump's team.
A person that have put forward often quite good viewpoints.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/17/ap-source-trump-offers-flynn-national-security-adviser-job/94054066/

Posted by: Rabid | Nov 18, 2016 6:12:02 AM | 233

As a facilitating controlled demolitionist I wanted to sound the bell for our latest,newest and freshest attempt to call the world's attention to that building again! Of course,I refer to our sacred tower #7.The one pulled by the nefarious Ashkenazi filth calling itself Silverstein.
With a 9/11 truth President now poised to re-open the investigation in less than 70 days these are heady days for a movement which is now 15 years strong and gaining inch by inch,molecule by molecule and truly ready for he mainstream! Now is the time to re activate your out outreach chops and send forth the message to one and all that 9/11 was an inside job.
We will need money to catapult our own propaganda,the good kind! Contributions will be collated and forwarded to Richard Gage out in California with a small percentage sliced off as 'expenses' for myself and my avid coterie of volunteers and DVD burning truth vessels here in Brokklyn USA!
It really is a joy to spread the word and absolutely nothing can ever stop us from dedicating,re-dedicating and re-re-dedicating our total selves to driving this building home.

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Onward in truth and be well,Les!

Posted by: Les Jimperwinkle | Nov 18, 2016 5:47:48 PM | 234

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