The Doubt Machine: Inside The Koch Brothers’ War on Climate Science​ from TRNN.
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2930

Posted by: ben | Nov 7 2016 19:05 utc | 4

Now other Russia supports the Kurds, b will perform his gold winning backflips and climb aboard too.

Posted by: tom | Nov 7 2016 19:24 utc | 6

Obama’s gambit to create legacy in Syrian war takes Russia by surprise M K Bhadrakumar’s latest..
Posted by: james | Nov 7, 2016 1:56:55 PM | 3
I suspect MKB and Obama are the ones destined to be taken by surprise. This sentence from MKB’s assessment is the (qualified) basis of his Legacy headline…
“Prima facie, Obama’s one-year old warning of a ‘quagmire’ for Russians in Syria no longer seems far-fetched.” (Reuters)
…but I’m sure MKB hasn’t forgotten that any and all US ops inside Syria are illegal, if Syria says they are. And Russia has the military might and authority to ‘keep the bastards honest’ as we say in Oz. All the 2nd-hand MSM blather about Russia “violating Human Rights and committing war crimes in Syria” is intended to provoke the Russians into proving their lofty intentions by putting Russian boots on the ground. But Russia’s demonstrably lofty intentions to date remain unacknowledged by the West, so any delusions the Yankees may be harbouring about Russia adopting an alternative to a Scorched Moron approach to Yankee interference in Syria, run the risk of feeling VERY far-fetched indeed.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 7 2016 20:34 utc | 8

@8 hoarsewhisperer… i was personally surprised by m.k. bhadrakumars comments on this.. he is usually more insightful.. to me this move of the usa’s which coincides with it’s ambitions in mosul made me wonder if the plan was to control the airspace from mosul to raqqa so that russia, iraq or syria airforce would be prevented from dealing with any relocating of isis from mosul to raqqa.. not sure how this all fits together..
meanwhile the suggestion that the usa and turkey are working together and in agreement strikes me as q

Posted by: james | Nov 7 2016 20:52 utc | 10

Kuznetsov flottilla ETA to Tartous now Nov 8th. 8:44AM UTC .

Posted by: Lozion | Nov 7 2016 20:57 utc | 12

ben @6
So ben. What is your position re Triple Core Meltdown at Fukushima which is slowly killing the Pacific ocean and eventually, along with other poorly designed and operated nuclear power plants around killing the entire planet.

Posted by: ALberto | Nov 7 2016 21:00 utc | 14

I posted RE the US election … and part of the comment had to do with a peculiarity most people, including B, may be unaware of. It will have one hell of an impact on potential US foreign policy.
You see, the Beast to the east of where I live (Texas) has some secessionists who are both well educated and well armed … and they are sitting on a giant pool of oil. If the election goes the ‘wrong’ direction for them, I wonder what impact their potential rebellion will have as it is put down and the world sees the DuhMurriKKKan oligarchs reassert control.
Well, one can only hope …

Posted by: rg the lg | Nov 7 2016 21:22 utc | 16

Don’t listen to the bastards, Tom.

Posted by: paul | Nov 7 2016 21:45 utc | 18

@ ALberto who wrote “What is your position re Triple Core Meltdown at Fukushima….’
Thanks for mentioning my 2nd “favorite” issue that is never discussed in public but may kill us all within a decade. The hubris of the elite of our species to make commitment for hundreds, if not thousands, of generations to manage the effluent from our greed/power/control nuclear path is unconscionable, IMO. What is going to happen to all the nuke sites when we start dying from the bio-accumulation that is occurring?….yeah, it just gets worse.
The aliens laughing at our hubris will put up a sign on the moon telling any potential visitors to stay away for an eon or two thousand.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 7 2016 21:56 utc | 20

@13, 14, 21 ben, aLberto, pysychohistorian
Paul Beckwith from the University of Toronto has an interesting and educational video on why this year is different in the Arctic and what it portends for the future.
https://youtu.be/WOo1TmaZi2U
https://youtu.be/UOm2t3QMR6k

Posted by: Michael | Nov 7 2016 23:24 utc | 22

@ Michael,
Addressing climate change does not pencil out for the greedy so they ignore it.
Which catastrophe that we face as a species will bite us in the ass first? As long as those of us in the West accede to the new motto of the US “In God We Trust” and as long as that God is of Mammon we are doomed to extinction.
I like the original US motto of E Pluribus Unum (Out Of Many, One)

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 8 2016 0:05 utc | 24

Transnistria opposes possible withdrawal of Russian troops
The self-proclaimed republic calls Russian troops “guarantee of peace”
Important to keep notes on Cold War II developments in Moldova and Transnistria, since ultimate neocon warhawk Robert Kagan has targeted the region for death and destruction. Yup, he’s backing Hillary.

Posted by: fairleft | Nov 8 2016 0:38 utc | 26

#27
Contrast to this out (from Duran, which I only recently ever heard of but seem to recall they engage in raging warhawk sensationalism):
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-07/nato-places-300000-troops-high-alert-readiness-confrontation-russia

Posted by: schlub | Nov 8 2016 1:30 utc | 28

@14, @20
Not one word about it the entire campaign. It has become ‘that which will not be mentioned’ by the government and the news. The last pretend fix of an ‘ice wall’ blocking run off from three sunken cores into the ocean failing a month or so ago (not that it worked at all, ever) was the last I saw about it. Enenews dot com used to stay on top of many different sources, but haven’t had a new post since 6 Sept. It will be a race with climate change to see which one starts killing in the hundreds of thousands first. With Fukushima being the early leader. Rad levels in the ocean keep rising, and a lot of people eat fish. Until there is no fish. And rising salt water will mean no rice. And no rain will mean no grains. Grim times coming

Posted by: Tom in AZ | Nov 8 2016 3:48 utc | 30

US, Turkey agree to develop long-term plan to seize, govern Syria’s Raqqa
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/07/middleeast/syria-raqqa-us-turkey-plan/
Al-Raqqah, also called Rakka, Raqqa, and Ar-Raqqah, is a city in Syria located on the northeast bank of the Euphrates River, about 160 kilometres east of Aleppo. It is located 40 kilometres east of the Tabqa Dam, Syria’s largest dam. Wikipedia
Looks like we are at a ‘rubber meets the road’ moment sports fans. WTF!

Posted by: ALberto | Nov 8 2016 4:54 utc | 32

I would really appreciate someone with more smarts than me developing an evolving list of the countries on the two sides of this new multi-polar world. It would help me and maybe others think about what might happen more long term/big picture.
@ Dean above wrote about Turkey perhaps being aligned w/Russia/China and folks but elsewhere I read the the US is telling Turkey it can expand into Syria……????
I think that I can say with some confidence that China now has in place the “back room” financial tools to support an alternative to the Private Finance way but lots of stuff gets really gnarly for a while if/when the intertubes gets split in two factions….and you can bet that as long as the intertubes are like now there is a cyber war going on internally.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 8 2016 6:16 utc | 34

@ James 10
Bhadrakumar is anti Russia fullstop. he made his feelings known in an article some time ago. Have been trying to find a link to the article but unsuccessful at the moment.
Somebody put up a link to it at the saker blog a month or so ago. consider him Brit establishment when it comes to Russia.

Posted by: Peter AU | Nov 8 2016 7:46 utc | 36

@Tom 30
It will be a race with climate change to see which one starts killing in the hundreds of thousands first.
One competitor is supported by people with large wallets (who stand to lose lots of money) paying scientists and the media to look the other way, while the other competitor is supported by the same people (who stand to make lots of money) paying scientists and the media to fudge data and write sensational headlines.
Can you tell where the problem lies?
I wouldn’t be too worried about “Climate Change” killing too many people when its solution is a tax and a financial instrument that decreases in volume over time. Gee, I wonder who is going to benefit from that?

Posted by: insanity | Nov 8 2016 8:07 utc | 38

The Kurds seem to have fallen into trap by accepting to attack Raqqa.
The USA has drawn them in that war for lack of other choices and to prevent any intervention from the Syrian army, but they will not them win easily. The USA will let them suffer and then in view of their imminent failure then it will call Turkey to help.
The USA has clearly declared its intention to allow the Turks to control Al Raqqa after the Kurds have been used as cannon fodders and been decimated.
Therefore the Turks are very happy to see the YPG been weakened in an badly prepared war.
By the way Turkey is possibly arming Al Raqqa Islamists so they give a big blow to the YPG
Will the YPG will stop listening to the USA mermaids that will lead them to become irrelevant after they suffer defeat against ISIS.
The USA has rushed into the Raqqa war to take advantage of the facts that the Syrian army and Hezbollah are locked in Aleppo and the Iraqi shias militias are locked in Mossoul.
Are the Kurds fools?

Posted by: virgile | Nov 8 2016 11:08 utc | 40

With regards to Turkey’s game, this article /interview is the best that I’ve read. (I’ve posted this link before so sorry if I’m repeating)
https://southfront.org/why-cant-the-us-and-russia-reach-an-agreement-in-syria/
“Q: In the operation in Mosul participate extremely diverse powers including Turkey, which has a historical sentiment towards the regions of the former Ottoman Empire. What are the goals of Erdogan in this battle? Is he waging a real war vs DAESH, or is Turkish military operations simply meant to restructure the region?
BC: I would like to draw attention to the fact that in Syria and Iraq, Turkey acts primarily in the rigorously pursuit of its national interests. Turkey is a NATO member but does not synchronize its actions with the coalition led by the United States. This gives reason to the world’s mainstream media and some of our analysts, to argue that Ankara is almost an ally of Moscow. An absolutely manipulative thesis. Moscow and Ankara are only situational partners. On some issues, yes. In others, however, Turkey is a partner of the United States, Saudi Arabia or Qatar. Nothing more. Ankara plays its uncompromising geostrategic game and is not a vassal of anyone, including the Americans. Who wants to present Turkey in what way in the Great Game is another matter. A question of propaganda. Washington continues trying to overthrow Recep Erdogan.
Recep Tayyip Erdogan formally highlights the Turkish priorities in Syrian territory. The fact that Russia, Iran and Syria turn a blind eye to the “Euphrates shield” once again confirms the temporary arrangements between them and Turkey. Moscow, Tehran and Damascus do not interfere with Ankara when it conduct its operation. Turkey’s officially stated objectives in northern Syria, ie cities and Bab Al manbij, are real goals, not declarative. The conquest of the Turkish army in these two cities can liquidate the chances of the Syrian Kurds to unite the territories of Rozhava and Afrin. Thus averting the threat to the territorial integrity of Turkey by Kurds, backed by the United States. It is also obvious that before Recep Tayyip Erdogan a “red line” is drawn that he must not cross. Ankara should not pose a front, north of Aleppo, or interfere with the final assault to capture the city.
And so there is no doubt, the Syrians threatened to shoot down Turkey’s planes, if they continue intensive bombing south of the town of El Mar. In practice, the Turkish president was forced to publicly guarantee the Russian-Iranian-Syrian coalition, that he has not forgotten about his duties, and that the Turkish army should not approach Aleppo, despite periodic attempts.
Q: Since Turkey largely complies with Russia and the US, is there ever an opportunity for its own moves?
BC: I think that the analysis of Turkish foreign policy should always bear in mind that our southeastern neighbor moves in its desired direction. Turkey is “armed” with the ideology of neo-Ottomanism. It varies between moderate and radical Islamization in the confessional plan. If Recep Erdogan came out of this framework, he ​​will be removed from those forces in Turkey who gave him power in the country. As the French say, the Turkish President does not cause neither the “rain or nice weather” in Ankara. His demonization is a matter of information-psychological war, led by his opponents who are unhappy with the too autonomous conduct of Ankara within NATO. To demonize Recep Tayyip Erdogan, and to not see the ruling clique in Riyadh is supreme hypocrisy and cynicism. This indicates only a certain geopolitical preferences. Nothing more.
Recep Tayyip Erdogan is looking near Mosul, to position Ankara around the oil fields in the area. He wants to position Turkey there, before Iraq fragments into individual new state or quasi-state formations. In Turkey came out a map, on which part of Iraqi territory is included within the Turkish state. Mosul, Kirkuk and other smaller Iraqi cities. Is this the “big Neo-Ottoman heart” or a pragmatic and aggressive Turkish foreign policy is a matter of preference. The essence is the same.
In recent weeks we see the return of US policy in major Turkish institutions in Ankara. NATO decided to transfer planes, AWACS radars in Turkey. Turkish military operation in Syria after the fall of Bab El will be continued in the direction of Manbij and Rakka. Recep Tayyip Erdogan said: “After the capture of El Bab we will go to Manbij and Rakka. These actions I discussed with US President Barack Obama during a telephone conversation yesterday evening.” Our informational-analytical field misses an extraordinary fact. Recently the Russian Federation deployed “Iskander” missiles in Armenia. This dramatically changes the situation in the Middle East. This is a warning to Ankara. “Iskander” are tactical nuclear weapons. So much for the “tandem” Putin-Erdogan”

Posted by: Dean | Nov 8 2016 13:33 utc | 42

ALBerto @ 32 — Is this as serious as I think it is? I mean, it being a Department of Defense announcement and all?

(CNN)American and Turkish military leaders have agreed to develop a long-term plan for “seizing, holding and governing” the de facto ISIS capital of Raqqa in northern Syria, the US Department of Defense’s news service reported Sunday.
“The coalition and Turkey will work together on the long-term plan for seizing, holding and governing Raqqa,” Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford said after meeting his Turkish counterpart Army Gen. Hulusi Akar in the Turkish capital Ankara on Sunday, according to DoD News.

Sounds sorta kinda Hitlerian to me: One nation invades another, says it will govern and control a part of that nation.
http://www.defense.gov/News/Article/Article/997373/dunford-turkish-leaders-create-long-term-plan-against-isil-in-raqqa
Isn’t this clearly illegal? Or does the Exceptional Nation get to spread its wings over Turkey and give it immunity from international law?
If so, Hillary should have no trouble getting the US military to fight Russia so she can have her beloved idea of a Northern Syria No Fly Zone (and there’s more, folks! Create the zone now and you get the East of Syria as well! Send your blood and treasure to President Clinton #45 at the White House, Washington DC. If you missed sending sons and daughters to Aghanistan, Iraq, Libya, or any of the myriad wars the US is involved in, you will have this golden opportunity to be come a Gold Star Family!).
https://www.army.mil/goldstar/
What a deal, eh?

Posted by: jawbone | Nov 8 2016 16:16 utc | 44

It sounds like Turkey and US use each other for their own goals but watch out when both agree on the same goals because someone is going to get screwed.

Posted by: Curtis | Nov 8 2016 16:31 utc | 46

Multi-polar, bipolar.
USA – Manifest Destiny followed by Full Spectrum Dominance, Shock and Awe.
White Phosphorus (approved use is illumination only) rains from the sky.
Israel and US use White Phosphorus illegally.

Posted by: fastfreddy | Nov 8 2016 16:57 utc | 48

@36 paul au.. thanks.. that is interesting.. perhaps his position in india led him to take this particular view.. i never picked that up in previous articles from him, excepting the last one which i did post which left me scratching my head!
@42 dean.. thanks for the quotes / article on turkeys role with regard to syria and iraq.. i agree with that assessment, which is why i continue to think erdogan is a fanatic and a zealot.. i don’t see my describing him this way as out of character. he is a good figurehead for this neo-ottoman ideology.. rape and plunder mentality backed up with historical precedent is an interesting position to take! mind you, the usa foreign policy is much like the british empire was in their hey day too.. take what we can and destroy anyone who gets in our way.. that’s so very british empire like of those americans who were apparently running away from this way of life at one time..
simplified response to it all is much the same as @47 smuks commentary.. but i have to get my digs in on turkey and american foreign policy regardless!
@48 fastfreddy.. thanks for putting in a nutshell usa/israel foreign policy.. may as well throw much of the western countries into the same box, especially saudi arabia and qatar..

Posted by: james | Nov 8 2016 17:11 utc | 50

Below is an excerpt (link at bottom) from Wahhabism, the Muslim Brotherhood and the Deep State. As you can see, it has an election tie-in.
“In addition to the neo-conservative and liberal factions, as well as the Israel lobby, we find the ideological component of Wahhabi Islam and the Muslim Brotherhood participating in the US political system, playing an important role in the fashioning of American foreign policy. Suffice it to say that this trio has for more than two decades completely dominated the choices about foreign policy of the United States, with dire consequences. The Muslim Brotherhood, a creation inspired by the British MI6 in the early 1900s to fight nationalism and Arab governments with communist inclinations, quickly became the spiritual fathers of the Afghan freedom fighters. It is a monster that has continued to morph in our day from the Taliban in Afghanistan to Al Qaeda in the late 1990s to the 2000s, and currently metamorphosing into Al Nusra Front/Daesh. Of course in each of its historical iterations, Islamic extremism has been fomented and directed against nations hostile to American imperialism.
“In recent years the once peaceful Arab Spring turned into violent riots thanks to the ideological inspiration of movements such as Saudi Wahhabism or the Muslim Brotherhood. This distorted view of Islam has often been the catalyst transforming initially peaceful movements into violent anti-government clashes. The Wahhabi ideology and the Muslim Brotherhood’s political interpretation of Islam unites such capitals as Riyadh, Doha and Ankara with those fighting for the Islamic caliphate, namely Al Nusra Front/Al Qaeda. US geopolitical ambitions have increased over the years through terrorist attacks and the consequent destabilization of nations opposed to Washington. The use of terrorism as a geopolitical weapon is not new for the United States when one remembers the stay-behind networks that operated in Europe during the Cold War.
“This conglomerate of power has in the last 30 years guided American foreign policy, justifying interventions in foreign countries under the pretext of fighting terrorism (Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan), or by using terrorism as a tool of destabilization (Syria, Egypt, Yemen). Consequently, the Wahabi/Brotherhood component continues to play to this day a major role in the constant quest for global supremacy by the US deep state.”
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/11/08/abedin-clinton-and-american-deep-state.html

Posted by: Robert Beal | Nov 8 2016 18:39 utc | 52

Monsieur Malbrough est Mort

On November 10 the lower house of the Assemblée nationale has passed the vote to impeach Hollande, passing the bill with 152 votes out of the total of 199, resulting in the president of the Assemblée nationale, Claude Bartolone officially submitting a draft resolution for Hollande’s impeachment.
If the draft is to be found valid it will be handed over to a special judicial committee of the the lower house of the the Assemblée nationale. Finally, when everything is said and done, the two houses will form the Republican High Court that will decide the fate of the sitting president. But regardless of how the impeachment procedure will turn out in the end, this whole affairs has literally ended Hollande’s political career, since he has no chance to get reelected. Therefore, once could use the words of the above mentioned song: «Monsieur Malbrough est mort» (Malbrough is now dead).

I don’t know what to make of this. I don’t mean the song, I mean the impeachment of Hollande. Noirette, Mina? Help?

Posted by: jfl | Nov 13 2016 13:21 utc | 54

วันนี้วันลอยกระทง Today’s Loi krathong day. It’s turned into the 4th of July lately, all noise and fireworks, but this year it’s quiet, in honor of the late King. And the moon is really full, fuller than it’s been for 68 years, and it’s just like the good old days. So look at the moon wherever you are and imagine all the little krathong with candles floating down the rivers and streams carrying away the cares of the old year and bearing the hopes for the new. Feels good here tonight in Chiangrai.

Posted by: jfl | Nov 14 2016 11:27 utc | 56

@57 chipnik
Thanks for the link to The Donald Trump video every Jew MUST watch! on the other thread. I’m not Jewish, or Lutheran either, but I enjoy your posts. And I’d definitely never have seen your ‘addled-brain’ thread if you hadn’t posted it.

Posted by: jfl | Nov 15 2016 8:13 utc | 58

@57 chipnik
I’m surprised at your reference to that article on AGW at Science. Using paleoclimatic data they come down on the side of the higher temperature estimates of the CIMP5 climate change simulations, and I had thought you were a climate change denier.
I had a look at the sealevel projections associated with a 4 degree temperature rise, which they project, because sealevel is something you can draw a picture of. I looked at Bangkok, because it’s relatively nearby, and low lying. After who knows how many years beyond the earth’s temperature rising to 4 degrees, c. 2100 according to them, central Thailand will basically be underwater, as far north as Lopburi.
The thing that rang a bell with me was a map I had seen in an article by a Japanese, working from data in Chinese chronicles, that showed just such a state c. 500 AD. So it’s not so unusual for the Suvarnabhumi peninsula to be inundated by the Gulf of Thailand.
Of course that’s just sealevel … the corresponding seasonal variations in temperature and precipitation will make Thailand, and the rest of Indochina and the world a very much different place than it is today, if their projections hold up. That’s a few hundred years out. I won’t be here. You’ll probably be gone yourself as well 🙂

Posted by: jfl | Nov 15 2016 11:04 utc | 60

@60
… I should have given you the link to the actual map, so you could note other interesting spots like Shanghai, the Mekong River Delta, and Bangladesh. It does require a lot of javascript and data from the usual hardcore tracking operations to see it.

Posted by: jfl | Nov 15 2016 11:33 utc | 62

Meanwhile in Poland…..
“The nationalists burned the flag while screaming vulgarities about Stepan Bandera, a fascist Ukrainian leader during World War II whose followers slaughtered many Poles.”
http://www.wboc.com/story/33703115/poland-probes-burning-of-ukraine-flag-at-far-right-march

Posted by: dh | Nov 15 2016 14:19 utc | 64

The sinking ship of Space-X, after NASA funds dry up, and the sabotage of Space-X’s last launch for the insurance payout cash float to Musk’s doubly-bankrupt Tesla – SolarCity, turned out not to be enough to keep new hires on-board.
On to Mission Mars for the One Party!!
And The Donald is right there, promising a newly revived NASA Deep Space Bloat, funded without doubt by cuts to Health and Human Services, SS and MC.
On to Mission Europa for the One Party!!

Posted by: chipnik | Nov 16 2016 19:09 utc | 66

62
63
The world is not getting ‘warmer’ just the cooked data, and the oceans are not rising faster than they have since the 1600s when tide gauges set way back then are still correct today, and all of the species we are exterminating now survived CO2 levels that were 10x higher than they are today.
The issue is deforestation and desertification. Albedo and solar heating. AGW is politicized bunko science, because you can’t tax loggers or farmers, but you can tax the hell out of fuel. This isn’t the Anthropocene, this is the Petrocene, and deeply skewed-low CO2 aftermath of the Ice Ages was when Earth came very near to extinction of all life, since plants eat CO2, and we eat plants, not Doritoes.
Watch for the bought-in EU to pressure the US to bleed taxpayers for ‘climate’, a bolshevik wealth distribution scheme, not unlike the ‘tailpipe’ tax that was just defeated here, after it was learned the tax revenues would be rolled into the General Fund for Mil.Gov salaries and pensions for life.

Posted by: chipnik | Nov 16 2016 20:08 utc | 68

Testing
Anyone else having trouble getting a comment to post?

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 17 2016 2:52 utc | 70

@# 68&69 That has happened to me so many times I generally (if I remember) write my MoA post on a txt editor then paste it in the box. It may take a coupla hits but it sure beats having yer post disappear into the ether. The cause is on the server n outside b’s control.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Nov 17 2016 10:56 utc | 72