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November 1, 2016
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Idlib school attack is a fake.
Bombs did not destroy tables etc.: http://blauerbote.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/idlib_schule_fake_white_helmets_faelschung_weisshelme_syrien.png
Video mixed from at least 2 videos, clouds vs. blue sky: http://blauerbote.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/fake_luftangriff_syrien_faelschung_rfa.png
More (german): http://blauerbote.com/2016/10/29/luftangriff-auf-schule-ist-eine-faelschung/
What another day off? You just had one;) b what type of laptop did you finally get?
Enjoy the day/evening.
Posted by: jo6pac | Nov 1 2016 19:38 utc | 2
I’ve been voting here in the states since turning 18 in 1996, when I cast my first presidential vote for Ross Perot. This cycle I decided to burn my ballot to protest the near total corruption of our political system. Bash me all you want, but the political system has lost what little legitimacy it had after Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004.
I even wrote a song and made a little video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTTTDQ6_l_I
Kerry is embarrassed by this year’s election. He is not however, embarrassed to have been a cabana boy for a Ketchup heiress, nor is he embarrassed to have thrown bogus medals over the wall, nor is embarrassed about his trademark camapaign salute and the remarks, “I will capture or kill the terrorists”, nor is he embarrassed about being Obama’s ass kisser, nor is he embarrassed about all the killing and lying about killing that he made himself parcel to.
Posted by: fastfreddy | Nov 1 2016 20:18 utc | 5
lizard @ 3
Watched you video… not bad!!! Can’t blame you. DeadPussyBlues
Did you do ReserveCamps as well? Good 4 u!
Glad to see comment and links by Jens at no. 1. Recent on the white helmets BS = https://consortiumnews.com/2016/10/23/the-white-helmets-controversy/
We are in a whirlpool of BS and propaganda. Good for this site in trying to keep us straight.
Posted by: boilo | Nov 1 2016 20:33 utc | 7
But of course, something unrelated just SHOULD overflow news outlets and memory timespans.
Alabama pipelines catching fire suits too.
Will it be Putin’s “russo-terroristic armed forces” or whom ?
Posted by: Arioch | Nov 1 2016 20:59 utc | 9
Jens | Nov 1, 2016 3:33:59 PM | 1?
Is there any significance to the fact that Bellingcat hasn’t investigated this “controversy” yet? With the Russians saying it’s been faked, I would have expected Bellingcat to have attempted to shoot that claim down but not a whisper even after almost a week. Does this mean that Bellingcat’s political masters (MI6) know it’s a crock of shite and not worth bothering with?
Posted by: Ghostship | Nov 1 2016 20:59 utc | 10
You must be joking, this is news? NYTs story today: Taking Note: Pussy Riot’s Nadya Says Trump ‘Should Be Disqualified’
Posted by: euclidcreek | Nov 1 2016 20:59 utc | 11
http://theweek.com/articles/658640/clinton-presidency-going-miserable-slog
Good bye, ‘Murica ?
Many ex-USSR migrants told for years they feel latest USA having no much difference form later rotting alive USSR. Would it split alike ?
Posted by: Arioch | Nov 1 2016 21:07 utc | 12
Wikileaks gets revenge. I honestly thought they would get shut down, burned to the ground. Massive disinfo campaigns, Assange arrested, labeled as a peadophile renegade traitor, and hauled through the streets in a stock. Yet here we are… Talk about changing the world from your bedroom. What a legend. Making tits out of them all. Ecuador is probably shitting itself. I will be so disappointed if this turns out to be some psyops bulshit. I need this to be real. Snowdon, you got fuckall to lose… Start playing properly. We need you.
Posted by: dan | Nov 1 2016 21:08 utc | 13
@6
thank you, jdmckay. to answer your question, yes, I put together the Reserve Street video as well. I left my job at the shelter after getting burned out and have spent the last 6 months working on a website to showcase my art. for now it’s just the youtube channel and the wordpress blog I started when local Democrats kicked me off another blog because I agreed with the assertion that Bernie Sanders was a sheepdog. now that I’ve burned my ballot, local Democrats despise me even more. and don’t even get me started on Missoula’s crusade to save refugees here in Montana.
comment at ianwesh’s website:
“If this story is verified the Assad loving fanatics at MOA and SST are either going to be apoplectic or will spin themselves off the edge of the earth trying to create fantasies about it.
It’s hard to accept this deal as possible but the Russians not bombing Aleppo during this rebel offensive does give it some credence.”
http://www.yenisafak.com/en/world/turkey-russia-sign-landmark-agreement-on-syria-2556332
Posted by: wendy davis | Nov 1 2016 21:37 utc | 16
lizard! I also voted for Perot, the first and only time, at age 18. I had a gut feeling he was probably the last “real” politician at the time, though I still regarded my vote as 50% joke-material. But within a few years and after consuming a greater deal of current, but alternative media, I decided that all following elections would be pointless, on a trajectory to even more pointlessness until a cataclysm or collapse – the bombing of the aspirin factory in 1998 was a turning point in my mind, and it’s still a large milestone on the road to the fall imo. Add to that real-life experience with NAFTA, which sealed the deal for me wrt the 2 party system. By this time alternative media was on the rise, pre-internet news cycle. So even if the internet never happened in the way it has, 9/11 was needed as a distraction from the actual modus operandi of the US’s nascent policy of global-couping. I figured after 9/11 that we had a good 15 years of BS, fascism, and war before the lies started collapsing on themselves. I’ve been proven right, unfortunately.
Posted by: sejomoje | Nov 1 2016 21:47 utc | 17
war of words heating up here these 2—goes back a month many comments like this.
Iraqi Prime Minister Haider Abadi stated that any invasion by Turkey in Iraq will lead to its breakup.
DAMASCUS (Sputnik) — Ankara’s decision to send troops to Iraq will lead to Turkey’s eventual breakup, Iraqi Prime Minister Haider Abadi warned the neighbor on Tuesday.
“Any invasion by Turkey in Iraq will lead to its breakup,” the prime minister said, as quoted by Al Mayadeen news channel.
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201611011046972142-iraq-turkey-war-invasion/
Posted by: schlub | Nov 1 2016 22:30 utc | 18
@12
actually the assange “pedophile renegade (& russian ofc) traitor” thing was attempted recently, using a fake dating site as attack vector. makes hardly sense but eh, in desperate times…
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article110904727.html
Posted by: ratatat | Nov 1 2016 22:59 utc | 19
HC’s chief of staff Huma Abedin and her family have extensive connections with the Muslim Brotherhood. She is married to Weiner, a Jewish politician. John Podesta, HC’s campaign manager and close collaborator going way back is considered a “friend of Israel”. From The Jewish Press: “Podesta and Sullivan come across in these emails as associates of the pro-Israel circle of Hillary Clinton advisors, some of whom have been on close personal terms with Israeli Ambassador Ron Dermer.” According to Thierry Meyssan Podesta receives $200,000 per month for his work as the appointed Congressional lobbyist for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
So the Clintons’ inner circle brings together Saudi and Israel interests in the same person – Podesta! All of which raises the question: Was 9/11 (with known participation of Saudis and reeking of Mossad) cooked up during Slick Willie and the Pants Woman’s stay in the White House? These complex ops are years in the planning.
If anyone still entertains the official version of 9/11 please look closely at the full on shot of the plane disappearing perfectly into the building as if into melting butter as opposed to the reality of a thin aluminium tube meeting reinforced steel and concrete at high velocity.
Posted by: Lochearn | Nov 1 2016 23:02 utc | 20
Read this:
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2016/11/flotsam-on-fetid-tide.html#more
‘Nuff said …
The Llano Estacado is still hot and dry … rumors of potential/possible showers … still no freeze. Gotta wonder … even some deniers are wondering. Maybe it is merely/just the election hot air.
Could be …
Posted by: rg the lg | Nov 1 2016 23:07 utc | 21
@3 lizard
Looked like a symbolic suicide, man. Hope you can pull yourself together. You coulda voted for ‘Rocky’ Roque de la Fuente! Coulda voted for life! for all of us! instead of committing suicide. I guess it’s all the publicity and fame the Wahabists have achieved? Were there really any virgins waiting on the other side? … oh yeah, I forgot it was only a video.
Posted by: jfl | Nov 1 2016 23:30 utc | 22
@3 lizard
Civilizations rise and fall my friend. People can live through it. I read somewhere that wise old Russian peasants buy sacks of buckwheat, when they anticipate a harsh winter. Out there in Big Sky Country, Montana, you probably have a leg up on the rest of us. My students were talking about a school poll or mock election, today. They were discussing Trump and Clinton, and I was amazed at how savvy they were. Middle schoolers. In a French class. I told them I didn’t like either choice.
I joked with the kids, saying that after next Tuesday we would know our fate. I said that even if one of the candidates cried foul over the result, the winner would be decided in the House of Representatives, as has happened before in our history. I told them that what happened Gore v. Bush was just flat wrong, and the Supreme Court had no right to decide that election, and that Gore had made a mistake in not opting for a decision in the House. I also told them not to worry, the result of the election may not mean the end of the world.
@21-nice to hear from ya Copeland! and I appreciate the perspective. I tell myself all the time the fam and I are ideally situated in Big Sky Country, but more and more I’m thinking I need to get the hell out of Missoula because this liberal utopia has pushed me toward being a gun-toting conservative. Missoula has become a gentrified escape valley for coastal elites who have money, so the price of housing has actually gone up faster than urban centers, like Portland. there’s a 5% vacancy rate, so competition for rentals is fierce. if you have bad credit, criminal background, prior eviction–or, a property manager once told me, your car has trash on the floorboard–then you’re fucked.
but in our liberal utopia we keep funding studies to study systemic problems, like affordable housing, and we form committees, and attend meetings and…that’s about it. unless of course it’s a social wedge issue, like relocating refugees. our country absolutely has a responsibility to help displaced populations from the disasters WE ARE MAKING. but there was an article a few weeks ago in our local paper about the fact the woman running the refugee program (she is from New York) had families in-route, and still hadn’t found any property company willing to rent to them. not because of racism, but because having no income, no credit, no rental history, and no one able to co-sign a lease.
listen to me going on, sheesh. I’ll leave it at that for now 😉
ETA to Tartous now set for Nov. 6th:
http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:4404011/zoom:10
Posted by: Lozion | Nov 2 2016 1:53 utc | 26
catching up on the news, now i see they are doing the same thing to http://www.almasdarnews.com/ that was happening with rt.. blank page at almasdarnews.com is all i get!
Posted by: james | Nov 2 2016 1:57 utc | 27
Turkey prepares to intervene in Mosul article by m k bhadrakumar
Posted by: james | Nov 2 2016 2:00 utc | 28
Both Ziad’s and his boy Leith’s websites get attacked and taken down pretty often by NATOQAIDA by the look of it.
To be fair, both feel crude, under-maintained and under-resourced. I wish they grew big enough to get some more robust professional support.
Posted by: Quadriad | Nov 2 2016 2:20 utc | 29
I have sympathy for that poor Huma Abedin that Hillary has been manipulating for years, encouraging her to marry a important Jewish senator as this would consolidate her political career and using Huma’s close connection with Qatar and Saudi Arabia to feed the Clinton foundation.
Now Huma left her ‘important jewish’ husband who turned out to be a pedophile, he is trapped in the Clinton emails server saga and she may end up in jail.
Hillary have successfully destroyed the life of that woman.
Posted by: virgile | Nov 2 2016 2:30 utc | 30
I wonder how Jon Stewart has been these days?
You know that fake left comedian, controlled opposition agent, a Wall St bankster brother, a good friend of “the Wiener”, a buddy of that filthy zionist scum Maher?
What’s his “Iranian movie” was really about?
Posted by: ProPeace | Nov 2 2016 2:36 utc | 31
What if Aleppo was “lost” before US election?
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950811000856
Posted by: daffyDuct | Nov 2 2016 2:56 utc | 32
@ virgile 28
If the grant of immunities handed out like candy are voided, Huma will not be alone. Orange suits will be in short supply. No comparison to Watergate. In July FBI Director Comey said there was no “intent” no reasonable prosecutor would…bring charges, eh
Podesta To Mills: “We Are Going To Have To Dump All Those Emails”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-01/podesta-mills-we-are-going-have-dump-all-those-emails
In today’s, 25th, Wikileaks release of hacked Podesta emails, one of the notable highlights is a March 2, 2015 exchange between John Podesta and Clinton aide Cheryl Mills in which the Clinton Campaign Chair says “On another matter….and not to sound like Lanny, but we are going to have to dump all those emails.”
The email, which may indicate intent, was sent at the same time as the NYT story “Hillary Clinton Used Personal Email Account at State Dept., Possibly Breaking Rules” – which for the first time revealed the existence of Hillary’s email server – hit, and just days before Hillary’s press conference addressing what was at the time, the stunning revelation that she had a personal email account, and server, in her home.
The proposed “dumping” on March 2 takes place two days before the House Select Committee on Benghazi sent Hillary Clinton a document retention subpoena on March 4, 2015, with some hinting the NYT report may have served to tip off the Clinton campaign about the upcoming subpoena.
Mills’ response to Podesta: “Think you just got your new nick name.”
~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Mills, an Attorney-at-Law, Director, Clinton Foundation and Hillary’s Chief of Staff during her Secretary of State tenure.
Posted by: likklemore | Nov 2 2016 2:59 utc | 33
@27 quadriad.. thanks.
Israel Is Facing Global Criticism Over its Policies and Massacres
Posted by: james | Nov 2 2016 3:18 utc | 34
hope this is true (out today along with two other amazing vids on Clinton pedophelia
“The Hillary Clinton Takeover of the United States” – Steve Pieczenik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov5kvWSz5LM
Posted by: Andy | Nov 2 2016 3:38 utc | 35
Methinks Russia keeps its airplanes grounded in Syria because she knows a provocation has been schemed there to influence the US elections…
Posted by: ProPeace | Nov 2 2016 4:42 utc | 37
How very sexy of her: Susan Sarandon slams Clinton’s “unconditional” support for Israel
Susan Sarandon has just endorsed the Green Party’s Jill Stein in next Tuesday’s US presidential election.
The Academy Award-winning actor previously backed Bernie Sanders, who lost the Democratic primary race to Hillary Clinton.
But rather than fall into line behind the Democratic nominee, Sarandon has made clear why she won’t vote for Clinton.
In a Facebook post announcing her endorsement of Stein, Sarandon lists her disagreements with Clinton over the minimum wage, opposition to legalizing marijuana, and her support for fracking and offshore drilling.
Sarandon is also backing the Standing Rock Sioux in their struggle to stop an oil pipeline being laid across their tribal land in North Dakota.
“Fear of Donald Trump is not enough for me to support Clinton, with her record of corruption,” Sarandon writes. “Now that Trump is self-destructing, I feel even those in swing states have the opportunity to vote their conscience.”
Sarandon is not the first celebrity to advocate for radical change on these and other issues.
But the Hollywood star lists one objection to Clinton that does stand out: “She supports unconditional military aid to Israel.”
Even in 2016, it is still unusual for major Hollywood stars, even those who are vocal about left-wing politics, to take on Israel.
Perhaps this is another sign that one of the big taboos in American politics is being shattered.
Posted by: ProPeace | Nov 2 2016 4:51 utc | 38
Trump Whistles His Dogs
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2016/11/1/trump-whistles-his-dogs
By Gilad Atzmon
“Trump, according to Greenberg, is so careful “that it’s not clear that Trump himself fully understands the implications of what he’s saying.” I guess that the Jewish academic couldn’t restrain herself from looking down at the Goy candidate.
Greenberg sees Trump as a puppet-master who controls his audience by means of ‘dog whistling’. “Trump’s references to money, bankers and international conspiracies appear to be deliberate anti-Semitic dog whistles, and his alt-right supporters recognize (and celebrate) that.”
. . . . . According to Greenberg, when Trump wants to communicate a message about the Jews, he uses an indecipherable code intelligible only to half of the Americans… Greenberg and the ADL.
If Greenberg is correct, if Trump says ‘international Bankers’ but really means Jews, then both the Republican candidate and half of the American people are fearful of the Jews. They must very well understand what a confrontation with Jewish institutions may entail. They know that, in America, criticism of Mexicans, Women, and Muslims is a kosher territory but even a subtle criticism of Jews may cost them dearly. One may wonder, how did this happen? What is the substance of that magical power that empowers half of Americans to speak in codes when they think about Jews?
Greenberg seems to raise the right question just to come up with the wrong answer. “Why would anti-Semitism not be an overt option, while racism, sexism, and xenophobia are?”
What Greenberg really wants to say is that Americans can be racists and can say whatever they like about whoever they want. But when it comes to Jews, they refrain. Americans do know very well the geography of the boundaries of correctness. Jewish power is for them ataboo, at least momentarily. America and Americans are fully aware of the enormous power that is bestowed in the hands of just a few Jewish oligarchs within ubiquitous industries of media, finance, politics, and culture.
America would have loved to dissolve the situation peacefully but it can’t. Jewish power can’t be contained or suppressed because we are not even allowed to allude to it, let alone point it out.
Jewish power is defined as the power to silence criticism of Jewish power.”
Posted by: Mort Zukerman | Nov 2 2016 6:47 utc | 39
Flood of scoops about Donald Trump and Russia adds up to … not much
WaPo
Donald Trump’s possible ties to Russia were the subject of four notable news reports in a matter of hours Monday night. If you’re going to read one, you should really read them all. Or just read this. All of the stories — published by Mother Jones, Slate, NBC and the New York Times — fit together.
Alone, any one of the first three could seem explosive; as a collective, the group is inconclusive.
The Mother Jones report is based on the claim of an unnamed “former senior intelligence officer for a Western country who specialized in Russian counterintelligence.” This person told the liberal magazine “that in recent months he provided the [FBI] with memos, based on his recent interactions with Russian sources, contending the Russian government has for years tried to co-opt and assist Trump — and that the FBI requested more information from him.”
The former intelligence officer also told Mother Jones that according to his sources, “there was an established exchange of information between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin of mutual benefit.”
The notion of “an established exchange of information” is consistent with Slate’s report that a computer scientist — given the pseudonym “Tea Leaves” in a story by Franklin Foer — discovered what appears to be regular communication between a Trump computer server and a bank in Moscow. “Tea Leaves” and his colleagues, who originally set out to monitor cyberattacks, concluded that “this wasn’t an attack but a sustained relationship between a server registered to the Trump Organization and two servers registered to an entity called Alfa Bank.”
Adding to suspicions of a link between Trump and Russia is NBC’s report that “the FBI has been conducting a preliminary inquiry into Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort’s foreign business connections,” according to unnamed “law enforcement and intelligence sources.” NBC reminded readers that it “reported in August that Manafort was a key player in multimillion-dollar business propositions with Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs — one of them a close Putin ally with alleged ties to organized crime.” There is a lot of smoke in those three stories. And it all seems reinforced by the lead sentence in the Times report: “For much of the summer, the FBI pursued a widening investigation into a Russian role in the American presidential campaign.”
But keep reading:
Agents scrutinized advisers close to Donald J. Trump, looked for financial connections with Russian financial figures, searched for those involved in hacking the computers of Democrats, and even chased a lead — which they ultimately came to doubt — about a possible secret channel of email communication from the Trump Organization to a Russian bank. Law enforcement officials say that none of the investigations so far have found any conclusive or direct link between Mr. Trump and the Russian government. And even the hacking into Democratic emails, FBI and intelligence officials now believe, was aimed at disrupting the presidential election rather than electing Mr. Trump.
The Times report lends credence to the others, yet blunts their significance at the same time. Did the FBI take the electronic communication described by Slate seriously? Sure, but the bureau “ultimately came to doubt” it. Did the FBI scrutinize Trump advisers like Manafort, as reported by NBC, and hunt for the kind of connection between Trump and the Russian government described in Mother Jones? Yes, but so far there is no “conclusive or direct link.”
The Times story leaves open the possibility that the FBI could yet discover something more troubling. And it, like the other three reports, is based on anonymous sources.
Posted by: Mort Zukerman | Nov 2 2016 6:53 utc | 40
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If anyone still entertains the official version of 9/11 please look closely at the full on shot of the plane disappearing perfectly into the building as if into melting butter as opposed to the reality of a thin aluminium tube meeting reinforced steel and concrete at high velocity.
Posted by: Lochearn | Nov 1, 2016 7:02:04 PM | 18
Unlike your gullible, edu-phobic self, the well-educated folks at NIST weren’t even mildly surprised that a “thin aluminium tube” (weighing 150+ tons, and travelling at 500mph), caused a lot of damage when it struck the WTC. They explained why they weren’t surprised to the complete satisfaction of tens of thousands of other well-educated folks called Engineers.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 2 2016 7:47 utc | 41
Unlike your gullible, edu-phobic self, the well-educated folks at NIST weren’t even mildly surprised that a “thin aluminium tube” (weighing 150+ tons, and travelling at 500mph), caused a lot of damage when it struck the WTC. They explained why they weren’t surprised to the complete satisfaction of tens of thousands of other well-educated folks called Engineers.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 2, 2016 3:47:35 AM | 39
I have no opinion on Lochearn’s WTC comment, but anyone that thinks the NIST report is the epitome of “well-educated” scientific reportage, clearly hasn’t read it.
Posted by: Killary PAC | Nov 2 2016 7:55 utc | 42
Andy at 33. That Piecznik guy (video) seems to say (didn’t listen carefully) or imply something I thought of before, namely that the 650K e-mails from and to Abedin revealed on Weiner’s computer were somehow planted on there (i.e. not saved by Abedin and/or Weiner either deliberately for some purpose or haplessly via some automatic process) to make them available to the FBI in the ongoing Weiner sexting investigation. In this way, they could be ‘found’ officially, legally, become part of evidence, and some action would have to be taken, burying them would have been going a step too far? An alternative is that someone somehow found out that trove existed and informed the FBI directly to make sure they would not miss it.
As for his (or your? – only listened to the vid you posted) mention of pedophilia, a very suspicious, shady ex.….See:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/08/AR2010020802729.html
Clinton e-mail organising this operation:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3776
Wikipedia shows they got off lightly (read through to the very bottom.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Life_Children%27s_Refuge_case
This is all going to blow up, for sure.
Posted by: Noirette | Nov 2 2016 8:18 utc | 43
@james | 26
The movement of tanks and industrial vehicles to the border is interesting.
Erdogan is fuming at being locked out of Mosul and is seeking to use Tel Afar as the reason for intervention. He claims that Iranian militias will terrorise this Turkmen town and he of course will have to play hero. Iraqi PM is not having any of it, of course. Erdogan’s arrogance over military intervention in Iraq is reminiscent of the same over Syria early on. Now, however, his hands are tied over Syria, but its not as clear with Iraq … unilateral action outside the auspices of the coalition will not succeed, certainly.
His fear is Iran and its march to the Med., and in a comical twist it was Iran that only yesterday offered to mediate between Iraq and Turkey. We’ll see what happens. But Erdogan is going to have to accept the new order in the ME one way or another. He will play hardball for a piece of the pie though he has very little support in the region anymore.
Posted by: AtaBrit | Nov 2 2016 8:29 utc | 44
…
but anyone that thinks the NIST report is the epitome of “well-educated” scientific reportage, clearly hasn’t read it.
Posted by: Killary PAC | Nov 2, 2016 3:55:54 AM | 40
I’ve read the conclusions and the parts of the report which justify the conclusions. I’ve also read NIST’s responses to the uninformed assertions made by 911 Trufers and, unlike Trufers, I understood what I was reading…
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 2 2016 8:30 utc | 45
Just when things are looking their darkest – someone comes up with the humour:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-01/bleachbit-looks-clean-selling-actual-microfiber-cloth-or-something-3-each
and postage is only 2 more.
Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Nov 2 2016 8:49 utc | 46
Syrian Commander: Terrorists Using Toxic Gases in Aleppo at US Order
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950811001405
Posted by: xyz | Nov 2 2016 9:06 utc | 47
“Donna Brazile tweets in desperation, “Please God, let this end soon” as CNN gives her the boot”
Hahaha… Donna ask god to help end her misery for incited violence. I dun believe in god, even if god exist, will god help her and DEMS incited violence at Trump rally?
I’m enjoying every minutes of it, watch how she continue evade the question and hope you too. Enjoy.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/donna-brazile-claims-democrats-incited-040249501.html
http://www.yourepeat.com/watch/?v=SC8F02CEYG0#!
Posted by: Jack Smith | Nov 2 2016 10:12 utc | 48
Brazille, Hillary, Huma – Christian Lesbians who help each other.
Posted by: fast freddy | Nov 2 2016 10:28 utc | 49
fast freddy | Nov 2, 2016 6:28:10 AM | 47
Ah yes, it harkens back to the closing days of the Roman empire.
One can only chuckle at the ongoing stupid human tricks…
Posted by: V. Arnold | Nov 2 2016 10:35 utc | 50
As the race heading into the finish lines, Trump is gaining and may even win. LA Times consistently shows Trump is ahead and other MSM beginning to show Trump is ahead and a point or two behind Hillary. Even if one discount Trump gaining and Hillary finally win. Anytime now Obomo must pardon Hillary and himself as massive evidence show both Obomo and Hillary violates US laws.
In Trump’s camps there are talks impeach Hillary when she takes office in Jan. Remember Bill Clinton’s presidency?
If Obomo pardon Hillary and himself, there will be pitchforks on the streets. Remember Obomo said in 2009 to the Banksters “To Bank CEOs: “My Administration Is The Only Thing Between You And The Pitchforks”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/03/obama-to-bank-ceos-my-adm_n_182896.html
http://www.politico.com/story/2009/04/inside-obamas-bank-ceos-meeting-020871
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/04/obama-to-banker.html
Posted by: Jack Smith | Nov 2 2016 10:39 utc | 51
jfl @ 20 says:
Looked like a symbolic suicide, man. Hope you can pull yourself together. You coulda voted for ‘Rocky’ Roque de la Fuente! Coulda voted for life! for all of us! instead of committing suicide. I guess it’s all the publicity and fame the Wahabists have achieved? Were there really any virgins waiting on the other side? … oh yeah, I forgot it was only a video
man, you don’t let up, do you? always on that high horse of yours…our little passive/aggressive prince.
Hope you can pull yourself together…Coulda voted for life
you condescending little shit stain. mr. lizard there seems a hellava lot more together and alive than you could apparently even dream of being. and the house is homey, the kids look happy.
suicide?
no, fuckwits, resurgence.
Posted by: john | Nov 2 2016 10:43 utc | 52
CLINTON AND TRUMP EVEN IN LATEST POLL; TURNOUT CRITICAL
http://abc30.com/news/clinton-and-trump-even-in-latest-poll;-turnout-critical/1580222/
“One slim point separates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in the latest ABC News/Washington Post tracking poll results, cementing Trump’s resurgence in the past week and highlighting the potentially critical role of turnout in the election’s outcome.
The race stands at 46 percent for Clinton, 45 percent for Trump in the latest results – so tight that the draw by third-party candidates Gary Johnson and Jill Stein could matter. Clinton, up 1 point against Trump in a four-way trial heat, is up 3 head to head – not a significant difference but a suggestive one….
Posted by: Jack Smith | Nov 2 2016 10:48 utc | 53
ISIS Bombing Caught Red Handed Innocents Hurt – Hoax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY-bHqznIa0
Posted by: xyz | Nov 2 2016 10:53 utc | 54
Clinton up – three clicks. Holds rallies in libraries, because all that massive support doesn’t want to get near her. Trump fills 10K seats – down by three clicks. Makes perfect sense.
Posted by: fast freddy | Nov 2 2016 10:56 utc | 55
If Hillary win, envision various scenarios… Remember Bill Clinton impeachment trial on Monica Lewinsky and Nixon resignation Watergate break-in at the Democratic National Committee? Will DNC support Hillary? Can Republican retain both Houses of Congress?
History repeating itself
Posted by: Jack Smith | Nov 2 2016 11:07 utc | 56
Egyptian soldiers arrive in Syria: reports
The Egyptian, Russian and Syrian militaries have not confirmed these reports; however, if true, it could be an important step towards reconciliation.
Recently, the Egyptian and Syrian governments began their diplomatic rapprochement after the Morsi regime cutoff ties with Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad in 2012.
If this is true it is ‘game changing’ for the array of positions and forces in the ME. Isn’t it?
Posted by: jfl | Nov 2 2016 11:08 utc | 57
Excellent video & pics
The Russian fleet approaches Syrian coast, massively reinforcing Russian air defence forces stationed there, and complicating further any possible plans for US or NATO military intervention against Syria.
http://theduran.com/confirmed-russian-fleet-heading-to-syria-now-in-mediterranean-video/
Posted by: Jack Smith | Nov 2 2016 11:23 utc | 58
Request some forbearance to continue a ‘discussion’ that never took place concerning numbers from the Unprincipled thread:
This was what needs be looked at:
When there is a significant but ineffective protest vote involved, this REDUCES the number of voters the winning candidate must persuade for their support, e.g. a 2% protest vote negates by 4% the votes needed for the winning candidate; try the numbers out – 100,000 votes cast, 98,000 effective votes, 2,000 ineffective votes. The candidate needs 49,000 +1 votes to win. The 2,000 votes are effectively removed from both candidate’s partisan support groups thus 4% (2k divided by 50k) of the needed vote required, making it easier to win with fewer support voters. It is in neither effective candidate’s interest to dissuade the natural protest vote by even addressing those voters as is evidenced by debate participation. Rather, there is a unstated welcome of alternative candidates that will act as ‘stool pigeons’ to attract as large a ‘flock’ as possible without endangering their own ‘flock’ of supporters needed to prevail. and continued so the effect of Stool pigeon 3rd party candidates can be better seen for what they are in the current US voting scheme.
Agin 100,000 votes cast, 95,000 effective votes, 5,000 (5%) ineffective votes. The effective candidate needs 47,500 +1 vote to win. The 5,000 votes for ineffective candidates are removed from threatening both effective candidates support thereby 10% (5k divided by 50k) of the effective vote to persuade.
At 100,000 votes cast, 90,000 effective votes, 10,000 (10%) ineffective votes; then the numbers to win drop to 45,000 +1. Neither of these rabid Dr Stein supporters will allow these facts to be discussed and this is something an aware voter needs to know about. Reduce the winning numbers enough and election fraud becomes much more effective. So voting one’s ‘morality’ does nothing to help that voter’s self interest, unless being a moral majority is in one’s interest. Voting 3rd party is definitely voter self-suppression.
Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Nov 2 2016 11:25 utc | 59
@50 john
I’m sure Mr Lizard is a better man than I am. It’s the video I was commenting on, not himself, and its effect on me, as a viewer. I guess I just don’t have your way with words. You’re such a charmer.
Posted by: jfl | Nov 2 2016 11:26 utc | 60
@57 FTB ‘Neither of these rabid Dr Stein supporters will allow these facts to be discussed …’
You just discussed them, didn’t you? I’m guessing I’m ‘one of these rabid Dr Stein supporters’. I find Duverger’s argument toward the end you’re trying to reach more convincing, and in fact it’s hard for me to come to the same conclusion that you do given your argument.
But I’ve discounted your oft-stated conclusion because I have no preference as to which of the … ‘effective’ … candidates wins the election. And because you make yourself so disagreeable when you disagree with people. Maybe I do, too. Our friend John seems to think so.
And more importantly, I’ve discounted your conclusion because I do not at all see the present system, which resulted in the present selection, as immutable, as you apparently do.
I am interested in changing the present system. I have envisioned a plan for change and its method of operation which I hope and believe can effect change. I can envision people claiming that the plan as outlined will never work because I will be its only practitioner, or one of a small minority of practitioners, and there’s a strong historical case for that argument.
But I am interested in change. And the only way I can see to accomplish change is to do something different than what has been done in the past, something ‘unconventional’ … following present conventions will bring about the conventional result. So I will follow my ‘unconventional’ plan of action and encourage others to do so as well, or present one that seems more likely to accomplish the change I seek.
I am not interested in perpetuating the status quo. I am interested in change.
Does putting it on a line by itself help?
Posted by: jfl | Nov 2 2016 12:12 utc | 61
@ 59
And just how do you intend to effect change? insurrection, riot revolt? Your greens are nothing more than a handful of activists that have gotten out with petitions to run their supposed candidate. Your interests do not control anything more than a few odd mayors in minor cities. There are no Green blocks in any state legislatures, Nary a governor, Not even a congressman and where are those Senators. You only want to collect $5,000,000 for having run a looser for President. Yours is not a political party that will effect anything other than feeding your juvenile ego, and your shite stinks to high heaven. You say you’re interested in change and you leave the door wide open for more of the same. What kind of intelligence is that?
Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Nov 2 2016 12:26 utc | 62
Putin to US: Be more like Israel
Russian leader slams US anti-terror strategies, holds up Israel as an example of how to fight terrorism.
Speaking at an international forum last week, Russian President Vladimir Putin praised Israel’s anti-terror efforts, suggesting the United States could learn much from the Jewish state.
In an address to the Valdai International Discussion Club, the Russian leader offered a critique of American foreign policy, particularly with regards to the Middle East and the spread of global terror groups like ISIS.
“We keep hearing Aleppo, Aleppo, Aleppo,” referring to concerns in the US over civilian casualties in the northern Syrian city. “But what is the issue here? Do we leave the nest of terrorists in place there, or do we squeeze them out, doing our best to minimize and avoid civilian casualties?”
full: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/219689
Posted by: Louis Proyect | Nov 2 2016 13:12 utc | 63
It’s very intelligent to me, Formerly T-Bear @59, but then I couldn’t follow your numbers in the preceding post, nor could I follow how Jill Stein supporters won’t allow other views. Like jfl, I have problems deciding between Trump and Clinton as to ‘most potentially evil’ and neither one has convinced me I wouldn’t regret voting for one of them. So its either a nonvote or a vote for somebody I’d be happy to see in the White House. If I’m otherwise not going to vote, how would your numbers apply? It’s really a very strange argument to me, since I’m old enough to remember when there were lots of different folk participating in the debates and actually having their names appear on the ballot – I never heard your argument then. If I had, maybe it would be starting to make sense by now, but I sort of doubt it.
I will step back now and allow you to respond.
Posted by: juliania | Nov 2 2016 13:12 utc | 64
but anyone that thinks the NIST report is the epitome of “well-educated” scientific reportage, clearly hasn’t read it.
Posted by: Killary PAC | Nov 2, 2016 3:55:54 AM | 40
I’ve read the conclusions and the parts of the report which justify the conclusions. I’ve also read NIST’s responses to the uninformed assertions made by 911 Trufers and, unlike Trufers, I understood what I was reading…
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 2, 2016 4:30:38 AM | 43
“No I didn’t properly read the full report” would appear to be a more concise and accurate reply, then.
I read it, from start to finish, shortly after it came out and understood it too, and still have trouble accepting that there exists people out there can plausibly claim not to find major flaws in both it’s methodology and many of it’s conclusions.
But, anyway, thank you for so promptly confirming my initial suspicion.
Posted by: Killary PAC | Nov 2 2016 13:17 utc | 65
hoarsewhisperer @39 & 43
I usually enjoy your comments, and thought at first you were kidding
Sorry, but friends don’t let friends believe the NIST report as fact – it is not (and I’m an engineer FWIW) – but don’t take my word for it…
There are hundreds of engineers and architects that debunk it (www.ae911truth.org), along with numerous videos: WTC7, Loose Change, September 11 – The New Pearl Harbor, etc.
It’ll take about 3 hours are so to go through it all, but is well worth it, and it will fill in a critical missing puzzle piece in your perception of things – it will literally rock your world – that our own government would kill its own citizens for political & financial gain, and then blame it one someone else – definitely a recurring theme down through the ages…
Posted by: xLemming | Nov 2 2016 13:23 utc | 66
Posted by: Louis Proyect | Nov 2, 2016 9:12:49 AM | 61
hahaha – pretty smart of Putin to troll the US by bringing up it’s great pal the Judeo-fascist state of Israel.
After all how Israel treats the Palestinians is so so much worse that what the Russians are doing in Syria (there’s no land stealing for starters, nor any illegal 60year occupation, to name just 2 major differences)
The yanks are A-ok with Israel and it’s everyday war crimes so they can’t plausibly complain about the more justifiable, not to mention legal, Russian war against the US/Zionist/Saudi proxy army of psycho-terrorists without looking like an even worse bunch of blatant hypocrites and liars than they already are.
Posted by: Killary PAC | Nov 2 2016 13:27 utc | 67
@ juliania | Nov 2, 2016 9:12:55 AM | 62
There is an assumption, the main one is the vote is nearly equal between the effective candidates (the candidates most likely to win). Another assumption was the percentage the ineffective vote would be of the candidates support numbers had there not been a protest vote. It is the final figure of the required number of supporters + 1 that falls as the number of ineffectual vote percentage rises. The more votes Dr. Jill Stein and the others take away from the traditional party candidates, the less percentage those effective candidates need to persuade to support them. This is the system that is, don’t like it? Deal with it if you ever obtain control of power, but you really do need to know what you are about. That ends the lesson.
Those not participating out of all eligible become a signal flag for future historians looking at the bones of an election, the smaller the number of participants (effective and non-effective) the more likely the closer scrutiny of the historical conditions. A grave mistake is being made in framing the issues ‘good or evil’, these are absolute terms and require absolute answers; more productive would be ‘which offers a prospect better suited to my needs’, but you must discover what those needs are and you will certainly not find any answer in any media. Hope this helps.
Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Nov 2 2016 13:43 utc | 69
@Formerly T-Bear | Nov 2, 2016 8:26:15 AM | 60
No offense, but you are making empty statements about the Green Party. Are you even familiar with their platform:
Green Party Platform
Have you even heard Jill Stein speak:
Chris Wallace interviews Jill Setin
It is perfectly reasonable to argue that it is extremely unlikely for her win. I think most of her supporters are aware of that. But you are now engaging in character assassination. Only 9% of people voted for both Clinton and Trump… 9%. There is a large amount of people that have not been heard of or taken into consideration. All it takes is fraction of them to show up and completely change the results. This country is hurting bad, and neither Trump or Clinton are the answer.
If Jill Stein wins, it is not Jill Stein the President who will push her platform, it will be the American people who above all odds said “Enough of this shit show!”. With no corporate or political ties, and the largest mandate in history, how many politicians would be willing to cut their own throats by opposing her? It would be the non-violent revolution this country needs.
Sure, I can see how Trump compares favorably to Clinton. But the man is not qualified to be president of the United States! It’s your vote and I’m not going to tell you or anybody what to do with it, even though I have very strong opinions on what candidate would be best for America and the world. But here is no fucking way I’m voting for Clump.
Posted by: Tobin Paz | Nov 2 2016 14:06 utc | 70
Anyone believing serial liars and their polls need remedial brain flushing.
The MSM-ZNN are bogus news and info agents.
Trump is ahead,as the hysteria before the death knell Emails revealed,and now is even further ahead.
They are just trying to increase bubblehead turnout,scaring the voter that DT is winning.
How could any rational human vote for the most corrupt criminal loser in American history?
America Unchained.God lives.
Posted by: dahoit | Nov 2 2016 14:08 utc | 71
jfl says:
It’s the video I was commenting on, not himself,…
the video was made by himself. it’s autobiographical. personal and heartfelt.
your response was gratuitous, and replete with self-righteousness and mockery.
Were there really any virgins waiting on the other side
sheesh!
Posted by: john | Nov 2 2016 14:15 utc | 72
Any thoughts on this?
Steve Pieczenik, from the intelligence community, is announcing a “silent” counter coup d’etat is in progress!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov5kvWSz5LM&feature=youtu.be
“Published on Nov 1, 2016
Hillary and Bill Clinton are attempting a takeover of the United States and will stop at nothing. A coup d’état of this magnitude has never been affected in such a subtly calculated way.
SEE MORE AT: http://StevePieczenik.com“
Posted by: Dean | Nov 2 2016 14:20 utc | 73
@60 FTP
You keep trying to make it about the Greens … I’ve explained that it’s not about the Greens – lizard’s vote for ‘Rocky’ Roque de la Fuente and mine for Jill Stein are equivalent, would have been … it’s about increasing the total of ‘other’, of the vote for neither the elephant nor the jackass … a disgraceful 1.6% of the electorate, in my view, in 2012. The voters were not disgraceful, but our collective result is, in my view. I believe that a massive ‘other’ total will profoundly change the dynamic and enable real change to take place. I don’t believe it will change the electoral result in 2016. You don’t want to address that apparently, so you keep arguing against a phantom of your own creation, one which I suppose you think you can defeat. Knock yourself out.
Posted by: jfl | Nov 2 2016 14:35 utc | 74
@70 john
Your ‘great concern’ for others’ feelings is as touching as it is bogus. Read your own posts sometime. MoA used to attract more reflective comments. It’s seems increasingly to be street-fighters now. In it for the joy of the brawl.
Posted by: jfl | Nov 2 2016 14:40 utc | 75
@18
I’m personally of the mind that the WTC was designed and built with its eventual destruction via false flag attack in mind. I do tend to agree that this finality was set in motion during Wild Bills tenure at the head of the table, with the notion of waiting until Bush Jr, arguably the dumbest (at face value) President in American history took the reigns. This course of action would clearly guarantee a Democrat would eventually be the next president. As an added bonus, in a feign of progressive values, this candidate would be black.
Posted by: TrueNorth | Nov 2 2016 14:40 utc | 76
Posted by: Louis Proyect | Nov 2, 2016 9:12:49 AM | 61
Putin did say that. But it’s Russian Humour (irony). Russia would be well aware of “Israel’s” support for ISIS. And even if Putin had missed the periodic pro-ISIS/ anti-Assad actions of Israel, the theft and vandalism of historic Islamic cultural monuments and artifacts is a dead giveaway that ISIS is pro-Israel.
Reflect for a moment on the fact that Putin doesn’t particularly mind SEEMING gullible to Russia’s enemies. He has used the Valdai talkfest to admit to placing too much faith in AmeriKKKan “promises” so it would have been remiss of him not to give Bibi (who owns Congress) something to gloat about, prematurely, too.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 2 2016 14:43 utc | 77
71 #Dean – I posted this on the previous thread –
123 – Piezcenik. Alex Jones used to have him on pretty frequently starting shortly after the 2008 election. He has his own blog and writes regularly. He was the black ops writer for several of the Tom Clancy thrillers, is a self proclaimed international hostage negotiator/crisis guy.
He’s articulate. Smart as a whip. Uses very colorful language. Says what’s on his mind but appears to be one of those fellas who likes the sound of his own voice, embellishes story lines–especially his role in them–and leaves ya feeling like ‘can I believe what I just heard’.
Here’s the link to his blog site – http://pieczenik.blogspot.com/
I don’t know if Jones has him on anymore but at one time, he was a huge fan of all things Piezcenik…
__________________
Pieczenik posted this vid last night – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12zVlaZyX3Q
If there is another October Surprise, which Assange pretty much stated there was going to be, then what Dr. P is suggesting here would certainly fit the bill.
And Noirette @41 – Wow. Just wow.
@73
And I’m commenting above on your commenting style. I know nothing about you beyond it. Like Lizard, I’m sure you’re a better man than I am. But your ‘work’ has its effects. I makes me think of you as a guy with a chip on his shoulder, just as Lizard’s video struck me a mournful and suicidal. He’s still with us and obviously is not. And your sheesh is a step up from fuckwit.
What makes you so incensed with what I think to begin with? I’m just another bozo on the bus.
Posted by: jfl | Nov 2 2016 14:51 utc | 79
The polls (HRC vs DT) are playing catch-up. Trump has been way ahead for a long time, and the recent – past few days – ‘sudden surge’ for Trump doesn’t exist, though of course some ppl may have ‘switched’. The polls, or some of them, are just showing a little ‘thruthier’ state of affairs. They absolutely need to maintain at least partial credibility – after a Trump win they can say they did predict it (or close) and the high score is a ‘surprise’ due to newly registered voters and so on. Also, everybody who is vaguely in tune with what is going on can smell that HRC is a dead in the water. The question of exactly what / how much can be accomplished by rigging remains.
My interpretation is, a faction of the PTB is dead set against the Clintons, and it is being joined by others who now think it would be best if she was not elected (too many horrific problems…).
Posted by: Noirette | Nov 2 2016 14:54 utc | 80
@ 72
You insist on being pig headed ignorant, be my guest. Do please try to reply on what I do say, not what travesty goes on between your ears. No further reply is forthcoming.
Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Nov 2 2016 14:54 utc | 81
German media blame this clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDMZRiYrcuE
on Trump. Its authors work for Secure America Now.
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/secure_america_now/
http://www.salon.com/2014/06/27/cantor_pollsters_real_disgrace_shilling_for_a_hawkish_foreign_policy_outfit/
It is my understanding that they are a sub-division of One Jerusalam, afa their finances are concerned.
Posted by: Gesine Hammerling | Nov 2 2016 15:02 utc | 82
For the ppl who don’t live in the US and have difficulties to follow all the episodes of the very special US election campaign, a nugget.
The guy investigated for talking with underage girls online happens to be the husband of Hillary’s director of campaign. As in any other country in the world, the fact he had tweeted a picture of his penis to 45,000 followers by mistake back in 2011 was not seen as an impediment. It should not be one since in 2012 the guy though about running for mayor. Who will say after that that the US is a puritanist society?
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/01/huma-abedin-hillary-clinton-adviser
Posted by: Mina | Nov 2 2016 15:05 utc | 83
@41 Noirette
I think those 650,000 emails – 10 a day for 178 years – are beyond one individual’s capacity and are in fact the entire store of emails from Hillary’s server. Which, of course, represents … everything. If there was a tip-off it came from the NSA. They surely knew all about HRC’s server and its contents from the instant it went on line.
Weiner’s addiction to posting pictures of his wiener to ‘little girls’ just provided the FBI entrée. And a great laugh for everyone else.
So why do you suppose the NSA doesn’t want Hillary to be POTUS?
Or maybe I’m way off base. This whole episode is probably getting way too much attention.
Posted by: jfl | Nov 2 2016 15:06 utc | 84
@79 FTB, ‘No further reply is forthcoming.’
Thank goodness for small favors.
Posted by: jfl | Nov 2 2016 15:08 utc | 85
New WRAL/SurveyUSA North Carolina poll has Trump ahead 51-44 in North Carolina. MOE 3.9%.
New Vanity Fair article WHAT CLINTONWORLD THINKS ABOUT THE LATEST ABEDIN-WEINER SCANDAL concludes with this final paragraph:
Still, the mood in Clintonworld remains generally upbeat, despite the latest bombshell. “Hillary wins, with a four- to six-point spread,” the top adviser told me on Monday. “She wins North Carolina, which makes Ohio and Florida irrelevant. And she wins the blue states too. She’ll be O.K.”
Oops.
Posted by: lysias | Nov 2 2016 15:21 utc | 86
jfl says:
What makes you so incensed with what I think to begin with
i don’t get incensed to begin with. i get incensed when you or anyone else says something that incences me and if i feel like responding i explain in very simple terms why. as i did in this thread in your regard. so i’m not gonna repeat myself.
regarding the expletives…well, suck it up!
Posted by: john | Nov 2 2016 15:28 utc | 87
Apparently this was just released (hahaha):
https://vault.fbi.gov/vincent-foster/vincent-foster-part-01-of-04/view
Posted by: RudyM | Nov 2 2016 15:38 utc | 88
Kadzik’s serious conflicts of interest laid out here:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-02/more-collusion-between-clinton-campaign-and-doj-kadzik-provides-heads-podesta
I don’t want this person anywhere near the investigation.
Posted by: RudyM | Nov 2 2016 15:41 utc | 90
***IMPORTANT***
2nd American Revolution
Source of Wikileaks …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov5kvWSz5LM
Posted by: ALberto | Nov 2 2016 15:44 utc | 91
Sorry, I don’t follow your line of reasoning, especially the comment about arguing against a phantom of my own creation. You state beliefs and I have stated facts i.e.: only 9% voted for both Trump and Clinton, Independents are the largest voting demographic, the population of millenials has surpassed that of baby boomers, both Clinton and Trump have the highest unfavorable ratings in history, and Jill Stein can win the electoral vote. You can argue with that “phantom” all you want, not going to change reality.
I also don’t understand your comment about making it about the Greens. People should not be told who to vote for, and that is something I have never done. Of course I have an opinion, and in reference to you comment, it is that having a fragmented third party electorate is preventing real change. I’m also of the opinion that a significant number of people agree with many parts of the Green Party platform.
I’m also aware of other parties, and not only do I welcome them, I also like what I see. I wasn’t aware of the Reform Party platform, so I decided to take a look. It was, to be polite, pretty slim. It seems hastily put together and without any meat. In all fairness to them, I have also not heard Roque de la Fuente speak.
However, the following point automatically makes them an absolute no-go:
Energy independence from foreign sources means that America’s must invest both in increasing conventional domestic sources such as coal, oil, and natural gas…
And as a Green Party pompous prick, I would ask people to consider if this is something they want.
Posted by: Tobin Paz | Nov 2 2016 15:45 utc | 92
It was crazy conspiracy theorists who forced NIST to admit that WTC-7 spent part of its time falling at free-fall speed. NIST has never provided an explanation for that fact, that I am aware of.
Posted by: RudyM | Nov 2 2016 15:46 utc | 93
RED ALERT! MUST SEE: Former United States Department of State Official Releases Video Exposing Coup – Reveals WikiLeaks Sources
http://investmentwatchblog.com/red-alert-must-see-former-united-states-department-of-state-official-releases-video-exposing-coup-reveals-wikileaks-sources/
Posted by: ALberto | Nov 2 2016 15:49 utc | 94
My apologies if I’m hijacking this thread with the Green Party. Jill Stein on 9/11:
Led by the families of those who died on 9/11, the American people wanted—and deserved—a comprehensive and independent inquiry into the attacks. The Bush administration initially said an inquiry was unnecessary, claiming that the perpetrators had been identified and their methods and motives were clear.
It is well known that the 9/11 Commission produced a report containing so many omissions and distortions that Harper’s Magazine described it as “whitewash as public service”—a document that “defrauds the nation.” The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission wrote a book just two years after the final commission report, saying, “We were set up to fail.” The 9/11 Commission was not given enough money, time, or access to relevant classified information.
Posted by: Tobin Paz | Nov 2 2016 15:59 utc | 95
@19 that was a great read – Orlov nails it
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2016/11/flotsam-on-fetid-tide.html#more
Posted by: bbbb | Nov 2 2016 16:01 utc | 96
@90 TP
You didn’t address the intended recipient of your comment but you quoted my reply, in @72 jfl, to @60 FTP. I think you got confused? I was not replying to anything you had said and in fact agree with most if not all that you’ve written on the subject.
Posted by: jfl | Nov 2 2016 16:18 utc | 97
@95 jfl
Sorry for the confusion. That’s what happens when are trying to keep a low profile at work :-).
Posted by: Tobin Paz | Nov 2 2016 16:24 utc | 98
@41 Noirette
I just watched all of that first video – I’d skipped it the first time around, got bored with the guy and his coup talk, didn’t realize it was so short – and the second one as well. It’s hard for me to take the guy seriously. Maybe he’s not a flake … but that’s my first response. And he’s pushing, with sexual embellishments, the same theory that I expounded based on the size and of the email stash and the person – Abedin – upon whose computer it was found. So I guess that makes me a flake by association?
He’s a psychiatrist … maybe that’s the play. He makes wild accusations … see if they don’t wilder and wilder … after he’s had his run the FBI, NYPD, the ‘intelligence community’ all disavow him as a whack … all the others critical of the Clintons are lumped together with him as flakes-by-association, problem solved.
What’s in it for him? Probably just money? Maybe some flights on the Lolita Express, on the house? The USA is getting to resemble Rome under the emperors more and more day by day.
Posted by: jfl | Nov 2 2016 16:32 utc | 99
President Trump might invade Canada, we are warned. And if he does, it’s because Putin inspired him. Hard to make this stuff up. https://irrussianality.wordpress.com/2016/11/02/blame-canada-or-putin/ http://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/columnists/ashby-what-will-you-do-when-trumps-troops-invade
Posted by: KMF | Nov 2 2016 16:34 utc | 100