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November 21, 2016

How White Helmets Videos Are Made

The video below was originally uploaded on November 18 in the channel of the RFSMediaOffice (Revolutionary Forces of Syria Media Office), a propaganda organization supporting various groups fighting the Syrian state.

It depicts the "Making of" a scene where people in White Helmets outfit "rescue" a man. For some 20 seconds the two "rescuers" and the "victim" are motionless waiting for the command to start a hectic "rescue operation" and, when that starts, adds on the usual background sound of screaming people.

The embed is a copy I made from the original and posted on my account to make sure that it is preserved.

I do not know why the RFS Media Office would upload this. To show that the White Helmets and their videos are fake? Did they not pay their dues? Or was the channel hacked and the upload done by someone else?

The original title "Edge of death | #MannequinChallenge" points to some social media nonsense which The Telegraph describes as:

A viral video craze, it involves people imitating mannequins and freezing for the camera while music plays in the background.

So is this a fake? Or a fake of the fakes the original White Helmets videos are (this one for example)?

Not fake enough yet?

How about this Yahoo News headline: All hospitals in eastern Aleppo out of action after bombardments: officials. Now compare with this tweet by an NPR Middle East correspondent:

Alison Meuse Verified account @AliTahmizian - 2:20 AM - 21 Nov 2016

MSF says four out of eight hospitals in eastern Aleppo city are currently out of service, including the only dedicated pediatric hospital.

All or four out of eight - those numbers don't matter as some journalists evidently to care how fake their stories are. Remember how six pediatricians in east-Aleppo signed an open letter to Obama a few weeks after the "last pediatrician in Aleppo" was killed? No journo cared about that insult to their readers sanity. Who by the way runs that "only dedicated pediatric hospital" in east-Aleppo? Some horse doctor?

Anyway - have fun with this while I keep nursing my not so fake influenza (no video).

Posted by b on November 21, 2016 at 01:40 PM | Permalink

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bizarre... looks like someone capturing the propaganda in real time..

Posted by: james | Nov 21, 2016 1:51:16 PM | 1

I vote for a hack, or a whistleblower. Of course, it may be purely accidental on the part of an employee.

Hope you feel better soon.

Posted by: John Zelnicker | Nov 21, 2016 1:53:38 PM | 2

As you can so clearly see here the production of their tailor-made rescue scenes, it becomes evident that they only stage relatively short scenes. That is why they first wait and then start acting.

For this reason their videos need to be tightly edited. But when you do this sort of thing all the time, you will lose the sense for the difference of what you normally do and what your audience is supposed to see. You get sloppy, because for you (the editor) it´s all normal: first waiting for "camera, action", then acting.


There was another telling video with a similar mistake, showing a guy first grinning, then when he realised the camera was on him, he started moaning and gesticulating.

Posted by: Qoppa | Nov 21, 2016 2:16:20 PM | 3

Seem to have a perverse fascination at MoA with 'faked news' and diminishing the impact of what is horrifically violent to the poor folks trapped in that news.

A friend sent pictures of Cambodian children who were kidnapped and then duct-taped into cardboard cartons, and shipped to Thailand to fill up the 'orphan' centers, so moar American - European aid money could be grifted to 'help them'.

You all seem Exceptionally distanced from reality of the world today, in your e-leather chairs, with your cigars and your brandy snifters and your sitrep posts. You're blind to the plight of your own children living on the ghetto dregs of a post-industrialized consumerized credit-debt incentivized perpetual holocaust.

"Rice Tents and White Helmets - How the West Blissfully Ignored the Horrific Plight of the 3W Poor"

Posted by: TheRealDonald | Nov 21, 2016 2:18:04 PM | 4

I thought the best one recently was the courtyard where the car blew up, and then they all ran in and lay down, to be "rescued" a few minutes later. Unfortunately I didn't keep the link.

All the best for a swift recovery, b.

Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 21, 2016 2:21:12 PM | 5

re 4

Seem to have a perverse fascination at MoA with 'faked news' and diminishing the impact of what is horrifically violent to the poor folks trapped in that news.
Load of crap. Fake videos have been on the go since early in the war in 2011. This one is just adding to the load, and not even the best.

Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 21, 2016 2:26:12 PM | 6

I don't know what to think about it. It's *strange*.
Watch the men move. Or blink an eye. They don't! So the first part is a still. But... a filmed still, from several angles.

Posted by: Harrie Baken | Nov 21, 2016 2:36:11 PM | 7

The video - fake itself or not - at least demonstrates how easy it is to fake such a rescue. Telling.

Posted by: Pnyx | Nov 21, 2016 2:54:30 PM | 8

Conspiracy Theory 101

Central casting actor Kerry visits NZ and the Earth quakes

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/18/asia/nz-earthquake-pics/


Central casting actor President Barry visits Peru and the Earth quakes.

http://earthquaketrack.com/p/argentina/recent

I'm sensing a pattern here.

Posted by: ALberto | Nov 21, 2016 3:02:07 PM | 9

and the Dutch government today anounced that it's throwing another million euro's at the white helmets aka the al-qaida emergency crew.

Posted by: rolly | Nov 21, 2016 4:21:31 PM | 10

I have been following this terrible conflict in Syria from 2011. Since the disinformation is produced by many sources- Britain, U.S., Turkey, Saudi and so on there are various levels of sophistication in production values and dissemination. To maintain very complex lies requires either a constantly complex infrastructure, or overwhelming brute-force. Their infrastructure is crumbling. They no longer have an advantage of force. Eventually all of these destructive falsehoods like the White Helmets will be revealed.

Posted by: Diego | Nov 21, 2016 4:42:22 PM | 11

@4
I'm seriously P.O.'d. I don't have a leather chair, brandy snifter, or cigar even. Just vodka and cranberry on a lumpy couch. It's all so unfair. Waaaaaaaa!!

Hey, anyone else notice those white helmet dudes/dudettes have the shiniest dirt-free uniforms of any rescue group I've ever seen. I'd bet you can't find a dirty fingerail in the whole bunch. You'd almost think that they don't actually do $hit but sip brandy and smoke cigars in their overstuffed leather chairs.

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | Nov 21, 2016 4:53:02 PM | 12

good catch : original was removed ^^

Posted by: ratatat | Nov 21, 2016 5:15:23 PM | 13

One of the rescuers says " take him to the car" but there is no car waiting.

Posted by: Hannibal | Nov 21, 2016 5:17:54 PM | 14

Weird. It appears this was from a tweet by Yasser alrahil on the 18th

https://twitter.com/YasserAlrahil/status/799734907895365632

The title translates to "The brink of death(in Arabic) | Edge of death"

His Twitter bio says:

"Journalist and member of the RFS media office journalist and member of the Information Office of the forces of the Syrian revolution my previous job: Syrian Commission for Media SMO."

There is a #MannequinChallenge hashtag on Twitter and it looks like he did attempt to tag that tweet with it, but he left a space between the '#' and the 'MannequinChallenge' so it doesn't actually show up under that hashtag on the 18th. It looks like CNN, WHO and NASA all contributed to the fun under #MannequinChallenge (and then they ask me why I drink).

So, I'm kind of thinking RFS's Yasser alrahil was honestly posting this as a bit of Twitter fun and possibly RFS media PR, not realizing that staged/fake White Helmet 'rescues' for propaganda purposes are kind of an issue in the west. It obviously never occurred to him that this was a particularly bad idea - he still has the tweet up (for now). There's nothing like this from him or RFS suggesting they were offering this or any other edited version of this as genuine. I think he intended it to be just what it is. He (and RFS) are obviously pro-FSA and do have other normal White Helmet stuff up.

Anyone with Soros-funded NGO contacts in Aleppo is encouraged to contact the soon-to-be-unemployed journalist for job tips.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Nov 21, 2016 5:33:43 PM | 15

Why? I think there's a simpler explanation. These guys have been pumping this stuff out for so long and the WMSM has been swallowing it down so quickly and easily that they've just got sloppy. They don't take the trouble any more because they don't have to. And maybe they've become contemptuous of how easy it is to fool their paymasters and how easy the money is. Bellingcat, whose fakes used to take a big effort to expose, has got sloppy too. See https://patrickarmstrong.ca/2016/09/26/bellingcat-proves-the-russians-didnt-do-it/

Posted by: Patrick Armstrong | Nov 21, 2016 5:34:47 PM | 16

Not going to swear to it, but is the "victim" in that video the same guy who is playing a soldier in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzxfkRAoBlE

Sure looks like it to me. What do you think?

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Nov 21, 2016 6:16:57 PM | 17

sorry to hear about your bout with influenza b. get well soon, we need you! great works as usual.

Posted by: annie | Nov 21, 2016 6:26:28 PM | 18

@ 4..

"You're blind to the plight of your own children living on the ghetto dregs of a post-industrialized consumerized credit-debt incentivized perpetual holocaust."

You wanna' see some blindness? Wait til' the real "Donald" and his merry men get rollen'.

Posted by: ben | Nov 21, 2016 6:26:44 PM | 19

PS.. Get better quick b!

Posted by: ben | Nov 21, 2016 6:27:26 PM | 20

I should think that this RFS Media Office is as corporeal as the Aleppo Media Centre, the Raqqa Media Centre and the Syrian White Helmets themselves. At the end of the day, these are just labels the jihadis use whenever the occasion calls.

Someone at the "RFS Media Office" got cocky and over-excited, decided to create his own Youtube channel and post all these "instruction" videos for his pals to use. Next thing you know, they're all telling each other about the channel and the link, one thing leads to another, and eventually it becomes the biggest open secret in the alt news media.

I agree with Paveway IV and Patrick Armstrong (hey, haven't seen you much over at Kremlin Stooge lately!) that these takfiris have become arrogant and sloppy, and they're letting their guard down.

PS Get well soon B, take plenty of rest, and no we don't need the video or any other evidence. (My own snot is icky enough.)

Posted by: Jen | Nov 21, 2016 7:20:48 PM | 21

Yeah, Right @ 17:

These guys already use the same kids as victims over and over (MoA has already posted an article about the 8-year-old girl having starred in a number of Syrian White Helmets videos) so I wouldn't be surprised if the same guy is in both videos.

These videos are targeted at Western audiences and the takfiris will have been told by their foreign trainers that our attention spans are short, we're not going to pay too much attention to individual faces and we can't tell most Syrian people apart anyway.

Posted by: Jen | Nov 21, 2016 7:28:22 PM | 22

Good catch, b.
In Oz, we're almost drowning in a deluge of Idiotic Videos (Videocy) masquerading as "News". However, there is an amusingly reassuring side to this story. Ever since Putin began his Full Spectrum Dominance exhibition in Syria a week or so ago, the Christian Colonial MSM reptiles have imposed a Get Smart-ish Cone of Silence on Putin's Progress. And no amount of fake videos will compensate the would-be Masters Of The Universe for the fact that their favourite daydream is being shredded and there's nothing they can do to save it.

Putin = 1
Christian Colonial Gunbarrel Demockracy = 0 (+ sour grapes)

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 21, 2016 7:47:26 PM | 23

The two white hat's uniforms are clean and practically spotless. That doesn't seem reasonable considering the very dusty, dirty place they had to walk through to get to the victim. Did they both just start their shift? Also, the victim looks like he's got makeup on his face. Towards the end of the video when he's being lifted you can see the side of his neck below his chin and it's consistently pink and also clean and spotless, with not a speck of dirt or dust, in sharp contrast to his pasty, dusty face.

Posted by: fake newz | Nov 21, 2016 7:55:01 PM | 24

Hoarsewhisperer@23 - And we have seen NO videos on MSM about the civilian casualties of coalition strikes on either ar Raqqa (which they have been pounding quite a bit lately) or Mosul. There are vids of the carnage posted out there, but just like the trained lackeys they are, you won't see western MSM touch any of them.

It's almost certain that Twitter, YouTube and FaceBook are aggressively deleting videos/reports of civilian casualties caused by the coalition. I was going to link a couple of rather disturbing ones, but - surprise! - they're gone. They have gone full-Goebbels on the big social media sites. THAT is truly disturbing.

I've been trying to follow the Clinton/Podesta pedophile thing, and THAT's being censored. Twitter keeps blowing away hashtags related to the affair and has started to delete accounts posting about it. I think this story is being reported in Europe more than it ever was in the U.S. Even the trashy sites like Reddit and 4Chan have jumped on the censorship bandwagon and the mods have been closing and archiving relatively new threads on Assange and the WikiLeaks insurance files.

What's the world coming to if conspiritards and weaponized autists (hey - their labels, not mine) can't even speculate about this stuff on Reddit and 4Chan without getting shut down? Next thing you know, Google will stop indexing MoonofAlabama articles because the Google Nazis will assign a low 'truthiness' score since MoA articles don't agree with 'trusted' news sites.

Orwell's 1984 was suppose to be fiction - a parody in Orwell's words. It was warning of sorts not to let it happen, not a damn instruction manual for budding psychopaths.

A Final Warning from George Orwell

Posted by: PavewayIV | Nov 21, 2016 8:36:19 PM | 25

These videos help to draw attention from the unfortunate fact that US-NATO not only bit off more than it could chew in Syria, but is also way more whimpy, wussy and girly than even I suspected.
All the "heroes" who couldn't wait to shirt-front Putin have decided, now that they've got their chance, to hide under their beds and make up fairy stories.

He came, He saw, We pissed our pants...

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 21, 2016 8:43:46 PM | 26

re paveway 25

I think this story is being reported in Europe more than it ever was in the U.S.
That is classic, goes back to the fifties, when Tom Lehrer sang in Europe but not so much in the States. Today it's not like that. Europe is so subservient that it's not independent any more.

Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 21, 2016 9:05:46 PM | 27

Hoarsewhisperer@23 - And we have seen NO videos on MSM about the civilian casualties of coalition strikes on either ar Raqqa (which they have been pounding quite a bit lately) or Mosul. There are vids of the carnage posted out there, but just like the trained lackeys they are, you won't see western MSM touch any of them.
...
Posted by: PavewayIV | Nov 21, 2016 8:36:19 PM | 25

I know. It's an effing insult.
I'm reminded of Axel Brot's brilliant Asia Times 3-parter from circa 2007, Germany - The Re-engineered Ally, part 2 of which was called Everything is Broken.
Imo, that's precisely where we are now.

Axel Brot predicted that Russia would succumb to the pressure of Western propaganda and as he put it ... "and down Russia will go."

So we're about to discover how right, or wrong, Axel's prediction was.

Of course if Vlad doesn't follow the Jew York Times or the BBC, he'll probably 'forget' that he's supposed to lose about now, and write his own happy ending.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 21, 2016 9:11:51 PM | 28

@TheRealDonald | Nov 21, 2016 2:18:04 PM | 4

Thank you. ASEAN will explode when Trump administration begin after November 8, 2017 with China and possible players - The Koreans, Japan and India.

Posted by: Jack Smith | Nov 21, 2016 9:16:16 PM | 29

Yep two days ago I saw lead articles at BBC and the Guardian telling us that the last hospital in Aleppo had just been destroyed by Russian bombs. Now this. All those White Helmuts. Must be true since that is being fed to us.

Posted by: ToivoS | Nov 21, 2016 10:40:58 PM | 30

@17 yeah, right... looks like the same guy to me.. ditto @22 jens comment.. thanks both.

b - i hope you get better soon.

@25 paveway.. thanks.. i tend to see europe like @27 laguerre describes it.

Posted by: james | Nov 21, 2016 10:59:12 PM | 31

@25 PWIV

The "fake news" paradigm is, of course, aimed at silencing the real "news". The real fakes are the MSM.

Yes, b. Plenty of rest and liquids. I think. Surely the rest.

Posted by: jfl | Nov 21, 2016 11:41:15 PM | 32

Wishing b a quick recovery. Use Greek mountain tea with drops of lemon and a little honey, and you'll be up in no time. All the best.

Posted by: Athanasios | Nov 22, 2016 12:12:46 AM | 33

A second source - Syrian rebel media releases staged White Helmets rescue “mannequin challenge” video — then deletes it also archived original video and tweet.

The White Helmets’ public profile has been carefully cultivated by The Syria Campaign, an advocacy group that lobbies for regime change on ostensible humanitarian grounds and that was created by a Western PR firm, with the help of exiled Syrian-British billionaire Ayman Asfari.

Posted by: Oui | Nov 22, 2016 12:21:49 AM | 34

OFF TOPIC WARNING:

Hampshire College in the US has banned flying the American flag.

Talk about stupid self-flagellating propaganda. Makes the White Helmets look lame by comparison.

Posted by: cabeza del toro | Nov 22, 2016 12:26:50 AM | 35

...
All those White Helmuts. Must be true since that is being fed to us.
Posted by: ToivoS | Nov 21, 2016 10:40:58 PM | 30

Gotta love Helmuts.
White Hell Mutts = Dogs Of War?

It's ironic, in a theatrical kind of way, that within days of the Hell Bitch being consigned to the trash can of History (following a painful collision with her own flim flam), that the equally mangey Hell Mutts rear their ugly heads and pick up where the Hell Bitch left off.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 22, 2016 1:01:19 AM | 36

Oui@34 - Judging by the timestamps, the RFS Media Office Twitter Account sent out the one Ben Norton has in his blog. One line of that tweet - the '#RFS' hashtag was edited out and the same tweet was sent minutes later (the one I posted) from Yasser alrahil's Twitter account. Both of those tweets reference the same shortened YouTube link to the original video b downloaded from YouTube - which has since been deleted.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Nov 22, 2016 1:44:04 AM | 37

Tulsi might save us yet. https://consortiumnews.com/2016/11/21/trumps-tulsi-gabbard-factor/

Posted by: spudski | Nov 22, 2016 2:22:51 AM | 38

@spudski | Nov 22, 2016 2:22:51 AM | 38

Tulsi might save us yet?

You never learn? Another democrat - another Elizabeth Warren, another Bernie Sanders, another Kucinich another Hillary? And forever enslave to the duopoly!

Posted by: Jack Smith | Nov 22, 2016 3:01:25 AM | 39

@ PavewayIV | Nov 21, 2016 8:36:19 PM | 25

A final warning...George Orwell

A bit late, eh?

Posted by: V. Arnold | Nov 22, 2016 3:32:55 AM | 40

|@ ToivoS | Nov 21, 2016 10:40:58 PM | 30

Have been seeing those reports for the last number of days now. Yesterday I purged BBC and The Guardian from my news sources - they no longer exist on my machine. Twas humorous, The Guardian has recently been asking for monetary support for their 'journalism' (maybe that should be in scare quotes) - still brings laugh wiggles to belly, the cheek of them.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Nov 22, 2016 5:37:00 AM | 42

Re: *How White Helmets Videos Are Made*

Probably more importantly is Why White Helmets Videos Are Made. These videos are designed and crafted for the immediate arousal of the viewer's emotional response, particularly those of sympathy and empathy with the 'victim'. That emotional response becomes a tsunami overwhelming all rational response; you are not being allowed rational response, not even to question the veracity of your lying eyes. The director(s) and editor(s) of these videos plan on the emotional reaction to camouflage the obvious duplicity of their product as it would be seen by non-emotionally attached audiences, and thereby can be sloppy in presenting their product. Few of the emotionally affected are going to hear whatever warnings of duplicity they may encounter, the power of first impressions at work.

'b', take some days off under a duvet and sweat that virus out, lots of liquids and shut-eye (and chicken soup if available). Virus seem not to like high temperatures and abandon their host quicker. Get well soon.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Nov 22, 2016 5:55:54 AM | 43

It is time to revisit what I said about the Ghouta chemical weapons attack hoax three years ago:

Murder investigation, part 2

At this point we need to revert back to the core Assadist hypothesis. Hostages from Latakia, from Tal Abyad in Kurdistan, or from where ever were gassed in some confined space, then left dead or dying at the hospital. Some teargas was released here and there to cause panic. Drops of sarin were left somewhere for the UN team to find. The task now is to negate this hypothesis. We need to find real witness testimony and in situ footage.

  1. Video of dead family killed in their home.
  2. Video of family member or neighbor, in situ, describing how the whole family was killed.
  3. Video of dead animals in situ.
  4. Video of the attack site, empty houses, without fresh bomb damage, abandoned in panic or cleared of dead bodies.
  5. Lists of victims with addresses.
  6. Any sign that the claimed victims ever lived in the effected areas.
So far I have seen none of this, except for the one fly-in-your-face fraud. I have not looked for new material after day #1, will start looking now.

It is interesting, that in the al-Bayda and Baniyas massacres in government controlled areas the "activists" were able to act as flies in the roof and film the massacred families in situ in their homes, even before the Assadist dumped their bodies on the streets. Yet, in this rebel controlled area activist are not able to provide any in situ footage.

Now, find the footage and prove me wrong! -- Petri Krohn (talk) 14:40, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

The White Helmets hoax videos share the same feature as the Ghouta hoax videos: they never give any context to the events. They jump right into the action, usually some form of hysteria and aimless running around. This is prima facie evidence that they are staged.

I have asked around if anyone has ever seen any authentic third party video showing the White Helmets in action rescuing anyone. So far no one has come up with anything.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Nov 22, 2016 6:11:04 AM | 44

Trump is reported to have asked Tulsi Gubbard, the Democratic Representative from Hawaii, and ex-military, to meet him for talks. Hmmm, Gubbard for head of Foreign Policy ?

I hope that report is correct and she takes a post if the conditions are right. She has consistently opposed the Obama/Clinton war machine.

BTW the US State Department has correctly warned about several terrorist threats in Turkey that actually came to pass. It has now issued a warning about imminent terror threats in Europe. Will they maintain their perfect score?

Posted by: Yonatan | Nov 22, 2016 6:55:54 AM | 45

Oui @ 34

The same exiled Syrian billionaire is behind a staged event at the Russian Embassay in London. Loads of arty types displaying 'Save Aleppo' banners and the street is blocked by a massive art exhibit demonstrating the death rained doiwn by the Russians. The exhibit consists of a massive pile of mannequin arms!

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/320/cpsprodpb/1314/production/_92248840_mediaitem92248839.jpg


Posted by: Yonatan | Nov 22, 2016 7:02:26 AM | 46

It occurs to me that if every single word the BBC or the Guardian reported about East Aleppo were true about hospitals being bombed, etc., it wouldn't make the slightest difference to this website or the people who hang out here. You have reached the point where people who are against Assad in one way or another have become rats, lice, vermin that need to be exterminated. How people who were originally inspired to use the Internet to fight against George W. Bush's war can now lend themselves to backing an even more brutal attack on a civilian population in the name of fighting "jihadism" is a sign that Christopher Hitchen's Islamophobic legacy can be found in the most unlikely places.

Posted by: Louis Proyect | Nov 22, 2016 8:07:45 AM | 47

Re: Posted by: Jack Smith | Nov 22, 2016 3:01:25 AM | 39

What exactly are you looking for? There will always be centers of power in any society.

You simply can't dismantle these centers of power.

Someone who has consistently spoken against foreign military interventions sounds good to me. Ie Trump, Ie Gabbard.

If they're not interested in provoking nuclear powers and potentially sparking WW3, why the hell wouldn't I want them in there steering policy rather than dyed in the wool NeoCons?

It seems to me you're looking for some sort of politician that doesn't exist and that will inevitably end in disappointment.

It's like you're setting yourself up for frustration and suffering.

How very artistic.

How very unrealistic.

Posted by: Jules | Nov 22, 2016 8:10:48 AM | 48

Thanks, Jules @48, for your comment and for reading the linked article.

Posted by: spudski | Nov 22, 2016 8:17:27 AM | 49

Seem to have a perverse fascination at MoA with 'faked news' and diminishing the impact of what is horrifically violent to the poor folks trapped in that news. (…) Exceptionally distanced from reality of the world today, in your e-leather chairs, with your cigars and your brandy snifters (..) TheRealDonald at 4.

.. ‘e-leather chairs’ is great.

Exposing orgs. like the White Helmets is important, so this doesn’t apply to b’s top post.

Yet, the ‘it’s all fake’ meme has gone overboard. To the point where, fanciful ex., someone dashes off to a real say train accident and posts some dramatic pics on YouTube claiming that it was all ketchup gore and Crisis Actors recruited on Craig List. Doubt these ppl have brandy snifters, though.

This became really evident to me after the NICE promenade attack, where real ppl did die, with endless vids/posts from abroad (not France) claiming the whole thing was ‘fake’. These ppl hunted for suspicious-looking stuff and naturally found plenty, but the pictures etc. are not analysed properly. It has become an intertubes genre.

Curiously, these newbie ‘conspiracy theorists’ don’t question or try to find out who exactly faked what, how they managed it in detail or at all, and why. (With some exceptions, for ex. an Israeli journalist - just one individual of course following poor Hollywood scripts - in a Hotel on the Nice Promenade is fingered as a possible conspirator.) The general aim of the fakery, if ever mentioned, is that they are just trying to scare you and set up a hyper-Security State and FEMA camps while not wrong per se is not useful.

In part, it looks like a self-protective mechanism: all fake, nothing to see here folks, the MSM is full of sh*t just live your life. The other, more positive aspect, is that ‘fake’ MSM news is rejected..but only selective parts. It is hard to figure this out, much more could be said.

One thing to take into account though: ‘ordinary conspi. theorists’ are not censored and are even welcomed (bash the nutters, they are alt-right, or mentally challenged, certifiable, divide to rule, create an open underground, study it, etc.) Those who actually know something relevant would never post it in a Youtubie.

Posted by: Noirette | Nov 22, 2016 8:58:41 AM | 50

...
'b', take some days off under a duvet and sweat that virus out, lots of liquids and shut-eye (and chicken soup if available). Virus seem not to like high temperatures and abandon their host quicker. Get well soon.
Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Nov 22, 2016 5:55:54 AM | 43

Yep.
Ultra reliable path to complete recovery.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 22, 2016 9:36:29 AM | 51

@35 Full story...no flags to be flown after flag burning incident.

http://wwlp.com/2016/11/19/no-flags-to-be-flown-at-hampshire-college/

Posted by: dh | Nov 22, 2016 9:56:16 AM | 52

Thanks b for this info and leaving out your home vid. Get well soon.

Posted by: jo6pac | Nov 22, 2016 10:23:26 AM | 53

...
The White Helmets hoax videos share the same feature as the Ghouta hoax videos: they never give any context to the events. They jump right into the action, usually some form of hysteria and aimless running around. This is prima facie evidence that they are staged.
...
Posted by: Petri Krohn | Nov 22, 2016 6:11:04 AM | 44

Nailed it! In 3 sentences!
What I find unforgivable about so-called News services passing this trash off as "courageous investigative journalism" is that most MSM outlets have more than enough in-house camera, production, and editing expertise to spot the flaws before it's approved for broadcast. So they KNOW before it goes to air that it's specious, deceptive drivel.
During the weekend, a long-running, hi-profile ABC.au program with a (previously) fine reputation, called Australian Story, ran some appallingly dishonest anti-Assad Regime junk journalism and called it The Road From Damascus.

It was Oz Story's final Edition for 2016 so it's at the top of their Main Page...
http://www.abc.net.au/austory/

I felt like sending them a note asking if they're planning to use it as an audition tape to show that they deserve a spot on BBC's Would I lie To You?
(ABC being a Sister Station of BBC - aka birds of a feather)

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 22, 2016 10:58:00 AM | 54

In last night's MSM news they said that THE last hospital in Aleppo had been hit by the usual targeted indescriminate bombing (oxymoron) directed at hospitals meme they've been playing for over a year.

We've been told to be thankful for these only sources from Aleppo. But why are their videos of the same thing? I wondered what Vanessa Beeley was up to lately and while searching found videos of fighting going on in Aleppo. And yet our media doesn't show us the war only the white helmets rescuing children videos.

Posted by: Curtis | Nov 22, 2016 11:33:21 AM | 55

November 22, 2016 You cannot make this stuff up

per NBC news

"Everyone must question their humanity when babies have to be taken out of incubators because of attacks on hospitals," Salama said. "This devastating pattern of warfare in Syria seems to have no checks and balances."

One of the hospitals was one of the few that still provided pediatric services in the city and Wednesday was the second time it had been

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/syria-s-aleppo-sees-3-hospitals-rebel-held-areas-bombed-n588686


Addendum Madeleine Albright say 500,000 dead Iraqi children 'worth it!'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE

Posted by: ALberto | Nov 22, 2016 11:44:23 AM | 56

Lovely people
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38064527

Posted by: Mina | Nov 22, 2016 11:46:20 AM | 57

@47 Louis, the argument in your post is predicated on 3 points:
1) That you truly know MSM
2) That you truly know MoA
3) That you truly know what's going on in Syria
As a result of your lack of understanding in each of the 3 above your argument does not hold water
But rest assured, I do not regard you as "rats, lice, vermin that need to be exterminated"

Posted by: xLemming | Nov 22, 2016 11:48:15 AM | 58

@47 louis proyect.. it is the part about the usa wanting peace and a stop to hostilities while it funds the '''moderate''' rebels up the yinyang... that is the part a lot of us don't get... when jackass john kirby is challenged on where the hospitals are that are being bombed, he can't say! but all the bullshit propaganda is good enough for you, so go back to sleep!

Posted by: james | Nov 22, 2016 11:49:36 AM | 59

Mr. Proyect 47.
That's not necessarily true. Many of Assad's opponents have been classified as terrorists (murderers) or extremists forcing their version of law and state on people who do not wish it. Or they are allied with the terrorists. Also, this is a war and not some civil uprising. Mourn for eastern Aleppo but mourn for western Aleppo as well. You sound like you are for the rebels and against Assad. But if Assad were gone today, what would Syria look like? Libya? Iraq? My guess is that most at MofA oppose the destruction of these countries and would prefer peaceful transitions. But those who've accomplished those destructions truly did not want peaceful transitions or outcomes.
BTW, MofA as one of many alt-news sites is against fake news whatever the source. And as one has pointed out, we get little context and many suspicious reportings from a govt/foundation funded news source while at the same time the US State Dept disparages the reporter from RT as being govt funded.

Posted by: Curtis | Nov 22, 2016 11:53:39 AM | 60

What amazes me is that Proyect seem to think this type of video is the new normal.

Posted by: Mina | Nov 22, 2016 12:23:09 PM | 61

You all seem Exceptionally distanced from reality of the world today, in your e-leather chairs, with your cigars and your brandy snifters and your sitrep posts. You're blind to the plight of your own children living on the ghetto dregs of a post-industrialized consumerized credit-debt incentivized perpetual holocaust.

May I ask: could you really see me in my lounge. I had a very good day.

Posted by: Ejnar Ekström | Nov 22, 2016 12:52:49 PM | 62

@61 To whom is the "You all" in reference to? Certainly not me... my e-leather chair is a camo lazy-boy lounger, my cigar is vaped cannabis, and my brandy is JD... and my kids are already well aware and live with me on my permaculture farm

As for your offer of "seeing you in your lounge", that sounds a lot like Epstein's line from Orgy Island, just sayin' - it's kinda creepy

BTW this is still Fight Club right?

Posted by: xLemming | Nov 22, 2016 1:10:36 PM | 63

my bad, i meant @62, sorry Mina

Posted by: xLemming | Nov 22, 2016 1:12:12 PM | 64

xLemming says:

my bad, i meant @62,...

don't know if it's the cannabis and sour mash, but actually, you meant @4.

Posted by: john | Nov 22, 2016 2:12:03 PM | 65

: Harrie Baken | Nov 21, 2016 2:36:11 PM | 7

You right about the early part of video being a still. But how is that done with the camera moving around capturing different angles? A hologram? What? Can someone explain how this is done?

Posted by: ToivoS | Nov 22, 2016 3:54:54 PM | 66

PavewayIV | Nov 21, 2016 8:36:19 PM | 25

Here some on your request most have already been taken down.

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=57371

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=57386

Posted by: jo6pac | Nov 22, 2016 4:00:38 PM | 67

@47

It occurs to me that if every single word the BBC or the Guardian reported about East Aleppo were true about hospitals being bombed, etc., it wouldn't make the slightest difference to this website or the people who hang out here.
It occurs to me that if every single word the BBC or the Guardian reported about East Aleppo about hospitals being bombed, etc. were proved false, it still wouldn't make the slightest difference to the people who support Obama's campaign of death, devastation, and destruction in Syria.
You have reached the point where people who are against Assad in one way or another have become rats, lice, vermin that need to be exterminated.
You have long since reached the point where people standing against those "jihadists" who insist that 'Assad must go' - in one way or another - have become rats, lice, vermin that need to be exterminated.
How people who were originally inspired to use the Internet to fight against George W. Bush's war can now lend themselves to backing an even more brutal attack on a civilian population in the name of fighting "jihadism" is a sign that Christopher Hitchen's Islamophobic legacy can be found in the most unlikely places.
How people who were originally inspired to use the Internet to fight against George W. Bush's war can now lend themselves to backing Barack Obama and his even more brutal attack on a civilian population fighting in the name of "Assad must go" is a sign that Christopher Hitchen's legacy can be found in seemingly unlikely places.

The 'justification' of Obama's aggressive wars of regime change continues unabated, in an absurd effort to brush up the Syrian 'legacy' left in the wake of the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate: more than 400,000 killed and half the population of Syria dispersed. And then there's Libya, and Ukraine, and Yemen, and the drone strikes in Pakistan and Africa ...

Words spun - sound and fury meant to obscure the face of Obama's horrific death, devastation, destruction and deceit - that signify nothing.

Posted by: jfl | Nov 22, 2016 4:10:54 PM | 68

tersting

Posted by: mauisurfer | Nov 22, 2016 4:15:37 PM | 69

Tulsi says:
“President-elect Trump and I had a frank and positive conversation in which we discussed a variety of foreign policy issues in depth. I shared with him my grave concerns that escalating the war in Syria by implementing a so-called no fly/safe zone would be disastrous for the Syrian people, our country, and the world. It would lead to more death and suffering, exacerbate the refugee crisis, strengthen ISIS and al-Qaeda, and bring us into a direct conflict with Russia which could result in a nuclear war. We discussed my bill to end our country’s illegal war to overthrow the Syrian government, and the need to focus our precious resources on rebuilding our own country, and on defeating al-Qaeda, ISIS, and other terrorist groups who pose a threat to the American people.

“For years, the issue of ending interventionist, regime change warfare has been one of my top priorities. This was the major reason I ran for Congress—I saw firsthand the cost of war, and the lives lost due to the interventionist warmongering policies our country has pursued for far too long.
http://www.allhawaiinews.com/2016/11/update-tulsi-issues-statement-on-trump.html

Posted by: mauisurfer | Nov 22, 2016 4:19:03 PM | 70

india Today makes a good pt:

'Now the question is, are all the videos shared by Syria's #WhiteHelmets fake?' (link: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/syria-white-helmets-mannequin-challenge-fake-video/1/816616.html) indiatoday.intoday.in/story/syria-wh… #MannequinChallenge

https://mobile.twitter.com/IndiaToday/status/800958543918575616

Posted by: brian | Nov 22, 2016 4:22:33 PM | 71

You never learn? Another democrat - another Elizabeth Warren, another Bernie Sanders, another Kucinich another Hillary? And forever enslave to the duopoly!

Posted by: Jack Smith | Nov 22, 2016 3:01:25 AM | 39

that a cynic!

Posted by: brian | Nov 22, 2016 4:24:33 PM | 72

Proyect returns for his yealy hot comment!


Posted by: Louis Proyect | Nov 22, 2016 8:07:45 AM | 47

Posted by: brian | Nov 22, 2016 5:08:07 PM | 73

Tulsi Gabbard

Eng not my mother tongue, short and simple - Amerika government: Congress, POTUS and SCOTUS - endless wars and regime changes. We are spectators. Another point of views....

The audio is an hour long. On Tulsi, starting 7:50 to 13:45.

https://sputniknews.com/radio_unanimous_dissent/201611221047692158-trying-to-attain-election-nirvana/

Posted by: Jack Smith | Nov 22, 2016 5:38:04 PM | 74

Hey, Louis Proyect (47): Whatever happened to your pal "Pham Binh of Occupy Wall Street" and your government-sponsored war propaganda site, "North Star"?

Posted by: Diana Barahona | Nov 22, 2016 6:11:00 PM | 75

Proyect is sad because nobody pays any attention to him. But what does he do? Does he find a comfortable chair in a quiet room and take stock of the furniture in his own mind, interrogate his most cherished beliefs in a calm, unbiased matter? Not on your life! He drives another nail of resentment into his own head. Pathetic.

Posted by: ruralito | Nov 22, 2016 8:17:24 PM | 76

In other news, everyone go over to saker.is and cheer on Hezbollah mustering their columns of tanks in their righteous war against the Verkukte "State".

Posted by: ruralito | Nov 22, 2016 8:24:17 PM | 77

Probably more importantly is Why White Helmets Videos Are Made. These videos are designed and crafted for the immediate arousal of the viewer's emotional response, particularly those of sympathy and empathy with the 'victim'. That emotional response becomes a tsunami overwhelming all rational response; ...

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Nov 22, 2016 5:55:54 AM | 43

this is a nobrainer. in democracies you need to get people to support your plan to go to war, hence the value of emotive videos

Posted by: brian | Nov 22, 2016 8:29:32 PM | 78

Update - CodePink White Helmets

The page was removed. "The page you were looking for was not found."

http://www.codepink.org/tonight_white_helmets_of_syria

Posted by: Jack Smith | Nov 22, 2016 9:27:01 PM | 79

Good work, fellas! Selfie time!

Helmets photo

Posted by: BrianR | Nov 22, 2016 10:13:16 PM | 80

Well... Ya know, it's not news unless it sells something. With the trend of demonetizing that that doesn't sell the "correct" narative sites like MoA are going to suffer.

The 'fake news' jingle will continue until everybody sings along with there new bright shiny object.

I tried to do a bank transfer during MoA's fund raiser but my teller would only look at me oddly.

Now I'm trying to stay warm and not die from vehicle exhaust.

Get better b and twenty bucks I was going to get you is trying to kill me.

I did delete the email.


Posted by: ~f | Nov 22, 2016 10:47:10 PM | 81

The same people who oppress folks around the world seek to evoke sympathy for oppressed people around the world in order to channel popular sympathies towards more support for oppression of folks around the world. Quite diabolical.

Posted by: paul | Nov 23, 2016 2:39:42 AM | 82

I respect conspiracy theorists. At least they are trying to understand the stories behind the stories and refusing to take things at face value. Not every conspiracy theory is valid, of course, nor is every debunking valid. Some conspiracy theorists are really just spinning their own webs of lies, but some are trying to see past the skeins of lies that the establishment seems to foist on us.

Posted by: paul | Nov 23, 2016 2:43:32 AM | 83

@83 paul


Yes I've thought the same. I tend to try to remain 'agnostic' as much as possible though. Most of the 'conspiracies' I have come to accept on a personal level were only even somewhat believable in my eyes much, much later when more evidence was available (not always the case however). I try to avoid kneejerk reactions as much as possible (but then again I'm only human and some info can be more readily sorted into my world view paradigm than other info can).

I think the Alex Jones-type of people, while spouting some legitimately quacky stuff and often equating coincidence and circumstance with evidence, are a sign of the time (like those pizzagate people linking bathroom graffiti to international pedo rings). It shows that fundamental trust wr have in our institutions is eroding rapidly and people are desperate to hold onto the "truth" in a world where that is becoming less and less possible. It hurts us and helps us i figure. Hard to sort the noise from the signal and even harder to convince people to reject the noise they've come to accept and base their outlook on. I'm likely guilty of this also in some ways so who am i to judge...

I must say though the weirdness surrounding Julian assange's whereabouts is quite interesting to me currently. The idea that wikileaks is compromised has been gaining traction in my mind over the last while though it's far far far from definite. It's enough circumstance to make me uneasy certainly. If i was a whistleblower I'd be hesitant that's for sure. Maybe it's just the intersection of politics with my interest in crypto and blockchain. I think "conspiracy theorists" (w/ obligatory giant quotation marks) often feel the need to be a part of something grander than themselves and their environment. I fear sometimes i succumb to that same problem. Fingers crossed that we're through the woods soon though on this particular 'conspiracy'... I'd rather be very very wrong than what my gut is telling me than to have a sweet "i was right all along" monent. Those are overrated.

Posted by: FecklessLeft | Nov 23, 2016 3:38:32 AM | 84

On 'fake news' and the selective outrage at human suffering ...

If you wake and find yourself on the wrong side, what do you do?

Depends which of the two groups of people: the evil doers or their unwitting accomplices, you fall into ...

This post is about the folks on the wrong side of DDD&D in the MENA - and knowingly so -the Evil Doers. They are intent on spinning the affections of those appalled by DDD&D but ignorant of the lay of the land their way. Hence the White Helmets and the rest of their panoply: R2P, HRW, AI, and the rest. Grading from bald disinfo to selective reporting. Don't hear too much about the wars the EDs are 'winning' ... Gaza, the West Bank, Yemen, Pakistan, Ukraine, North and East Africa, North Dakota ... some they're losing - Ukraine, surely, and now Syria - but their involvement on the Wrong Side prevents any accurate reportage, but affective fake news occasionally escapes.

If you're are not on the Wrong Side, but don't really know what's going on, and you're angry with what's gone wrong with your own circumstances over the past few decades, you're the prey of the EDs. And the EDs hit you right between the eyes with their purely affective appeals. You're swayed, willy, nilly.

That great American Preacher, Chris Hedges, picks up on the American Middle Class, their plight, and the corner they've been painted into by their abusers: We Are All Deplorables


My relatives in Maine are deplorables. I cannot write on their behalf. I can write in their defense. They live in towns and villages that have been ravaged by deindustrialization. The bank in Mechanic Falls, where my grandparents lived, is boarded up, along with nearly every downtown store. The paper mill closed decades ago. There is a strip club in the center of the town. The jobs, at least the good ones, are gone. Many of my relatives and their neighbors work up to 70 hours a week at three minimum-wage jobs, without benefits, to make perhaps $35,000 a year. Or they have no jobs. They cannot afford adequate health coverage under the scam of Obamacare. Alcoholism is rampant in the region. Heroin addiction is an epidemic. Labs producing the street drug methamphetamine make up a cottage industry. Suicide is common. Domestic abuse and sexual assault destroy families. Despair and rage among the population have fueled an inchoate racism, homophobia and Islamophobia and feed the latent and ever present poison of white supremacy. They also nourish the magical thinking peddled by the con artists in the Christian right, the state lotteries that fleece the poor, and an entertainment industry that night after night shows visions of an America and a lifestyle on television screens — “The Apprentice” typified this — that foster unattainable dreams of wealth and celebrity.

These of us are exploitable by the EDs. They'll tell us who's responsible for our economic problems: Mexicans, Muslims, Black Americans, those trying to slow down the fossil fuelers degradation of Mother Earth - any one but their EDing selves, and when their 'projects' - like Syria and Ukraine and Yemen - blow up in their faces, they tell us who's responsible for 'our' problems world wide: Muslims, Russians, Iranians, did I say Russians? - again, anyone but their EDing selves. And they'll hit us below the belt when they tell us. Pictures, videos, fake or selective, to affect our perceptions of our plight and to identify with the victims or their EDing operations. Fact-free. Because all the facts lead to gannma's house, where the big, bad EDing wolves are dressed in gannmas nighty and lying in grannma's bed ... with grannma's carcasse in their bellies.

Of course it's their EDing selves responsible in both instances: our economic decline and human suffering they've gratuitously brought about throughout MENA and Ukraine. They can't allow us to discover what's what for ourselves, so they blame others for their own crimes, and hit us with it, below the belt 24/7, their most effective punch ... fakes news and selective reportage.

Posted by: jfl | Nov 23, 2016 5:02:27 AM | 85

on Assange, how can you buy the 'disparition' when no sign of panic on Greenwald or Snowden's twitter accounts?

Posted by: Mina | Nov 23, 2016 5:42:16 AM | 86

@87 mina

As someone else said above the rumor of wikileaks' being hacked is probably calculated to scare off submissions, especially if some have been coming from 'inside' a la Snowden.

Posted by: jfl | Nov 23, 2016 6:03:48 AM | 87

if insiders can dump it to WL they can probably anonymously set up their own blogger and dump it there too!
or in a comment on MoA, as a certain hacker named Gibbon recently, when he dumped the dirtiest secrets of the Roman empire.

Posted by: Mina | Nov 23, 2016 6:09:10 AM | 88

i think the link given by PIV connecting WL and pizzagate and trying to give credit to Assange's disparition is precisely the kind of trolling used to discredit WL, at a moment where most "liberals" accuse Assange to have facilitated Trump's victory because he would be a Putin pawn.

Posted by: Mina | Nov 23, 2016 6:10:36 AM | 89

Louis Proyect: 'if every single word the BBC or the Guardian reported about East Aleppo were true'.. Your big problem is the fact that it isn't true and that the main information sources for the MSM are the White Helmets and the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights. I think it's beyond any kind of doubt now that both organisations have a particular problem with Assad and subsequently skew everything they report implicate him for crimes against the population. Dozens of the recruited White Helmets have been exposed as being connected to the terrorists and the little fat seamstress that runs the SOHR is a long term exile or even fugitive from Syrian authorities. Your accusations reach a dead at the 'if'.

Posted by: Andy | Nov 23, 2016 7:02:22 AM | 90

they collectively deserve a Razzie award.

Posted by: Jean | Nov 23, 2016 10:03:46 AM | 91

On his side, Sisi declares to RT Arabic that the Egyptian army is now helping the Syrian army, as well as the Iraqi and Lybian armies. He states that in the case of Syria, he has no doubt that supporting the national army is what should be done in such circumstances, and that it will be necessary to re-build what has been destroyed.
http://tinyurl.com/job588s
Yesterday De Mistura was talking in Berlin at an SPD gig at the invitation of the new president of Germany (or is he just "nominated"?). He was even less impartial that when he talks at the UN. Are they all trying to save soldier Hollande?

(and for those who read the German press, what kind of garbage is the taz? I saw the article with Obama as Pericles in Athens and the article made no mention of what little consideration the Eu had for Greek elections or referendums! or for that matter of Obama's records in implementing democracy anywhere)

Posted by: Mina | Nov 23, 2016 11:11:56 AM | 92

One the latest soul-crushing news items is that a cat sanctuary in Aleppo has been bombed. (By whom/why is not mentioned.)

The top picture is of a cute, white, cat. It was “a place of peace and hope” — … “local children who would spend time with the animals and play..”

A copied over tweet claims chlorine bombs!

The previous attacks mentioned are: on a children’s hospital and a blood bank!

The pix / vids of bombed out places show random stuff (imho from Syria.) The tweet from owner of shelter does not show bombing, only v. minor rubble… but does picture a dead dog.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cat-sanctuary-aleppo-syria-bombed_us_582c8c1ae4b099512f802121?

Posted by: Noirette | Nov 23, 2016 11:45:59 AM | 93

My post about conspiracy theorists was mis-interpreted?

I’m one myself, and probably in a bigger way than most here.

Yes, it is good to question everything, and adopt a sceptical attitude from the get-go.

It is the case that ‘consp. theorists’ (variable definitions) are in many ways useful to the PTB-MSM, they can be pointed out as shouting out ‘wacky’ memes, interpretations, scripts, narratives. Serving - the PTB reckon - a divide-to-rule and easy-to-discredit scenario, trap.

Another aspect the PTB encouraged, allowed, or organised, is to have ‘competing theories out there’ (e.g. 9/11, no planes vs. special EMP new arms, holograms, whatever... etc.)

Someone above pointed out that the White Helmets don’t provide context, some ‘consp theorists’ carefully avoid that as well, and even deliberately twist, spin, information they are aware of, to make it look more dastardly. (This is obvious if one has all the info available about x occurence..you can see what was picked up and left out, or changed..) They do exactly what the MSM does, with the same procedures - changing dates, time-lines, cherry-picking, even mis-spelling names so Goog does not provide, posting very ambiguous, shoddy, unreferenced pix, etc.

They are mirrors of each other. In this way, informed or ‘serious’ (whatever they are when at home) consp. theorists are knocked away, drowned out with yells and shouts.. It is ALL fake!

White Helmets did not invent putting out ‘fake’ vids, they (or whoever paid for/organised that.. and who is that btw?) simply followed what the MSM does.

All this has now bubbled up into the MSM with the fight about ‘Fake News.’ With all parties accusing each other. Interesting times.

Posted by: Noirette | Nov 23, 2016 12:38:20 PM | 94

The kind of spoofing that emerges as the White Helmets is endemic now. After political campaigns, capricious reversals of rhetoric and policy. and gaslighting, become the political norm and a kind of fluid psychological warfare. The integrity of reality is subject to assault in this kind of war. But the paths that are still coherent, --the parallel timelines if you will--are on balance represented by one path where we remain recognizably human, and the other line where we cease to exist altogether, or descend permanently into savagery with our damaged DNA in a ruined world. It is hard to say which outcome is more likely at this point.

The struggle of the Lakota Sioux and other Native Americans,and their allies, in opposition to the DAPL pipeline, is a more lucid representation of the struggle between these contrasting timelines, or fates, than anything else I can imagine. At least in a real world scenario. The Sioux and Hopi tribes have a remarkably similar prophesy about the coming of an enormous Black Snake, which invades the sacred lands, and seeks to cross over a sacred river. The people stand fast to protect the water. And if snake is prevented from crossing over the river, all is well; but if it can push past the guardians, this means the end of the world.

As RFK Jr points out in this video, The Keystone Pipeline was required by law to be subject to an Environmental Impact review, before construction could proceed. The Dakota Access Pipeline is proceeding without any such legally mandated review. The project is therefore illegal. The tribes who are guardians of the land are protecting the water upon which millions of people depend. They demand that the government should simply follow the law.

Posted by: Copeland | Nov 23, 2016 1:47:37 PM | 95

Copeland@95 - FWIW, the label 'Sioux' is derived from a racial slur (arguably equivalent to 'nigger') that some members of the Ojibwe tribe used (picked up by the French, and later the English) to describe the Seven Councils peoples/nation. The white settlers often hired Ojibwa to spy on or attack 'the Sioux' for them.

The Lakota/Dakota peoples never used that term to refer to themselves - they didn't even have that word in their languages. This is all whitewashed by historians of course, who make up a variety of academic justifications and alternate origins (mostly preposterous) for use of the white man's name for the natives. The ultimate irony is that most descendants of the Seven Council (Dakota/Lakota) nations have any idea that 'Sioux' was a racial slur normalized into common usage over the last 400 years - they use it to refer to themselves today without a word of protest, rather than using the proper names their ancestors used to refer to themselves and their people.

I'll live for the day when someone on CNN is interviewing a native Dakota about the pipeline referring to them as 'Souix', to which the interviwee responds in disgust, "Did you just call me the 'S' word, you God damn racist bastard?"

Posted by: PavewayIV | Nov 23, 2016 3:26:32 PM | 96

Thanks Paveway, for that information. The word turns up in many publications, mainstream and alternate alike. I'll remember that when I write about the Lakota, in the future. Thanks again.

Posted by: Copeland | Nov 23, 2016 3:39:24 PM | 97

Copeland@97 - That wasn't meant to chastise you or your post in any way, Copeland. Presented as a historical tidbit. Truth is that I don't even know what a proper name should be - Seven councils people? Dakota? Dakota/Lakota? None of those is 'technically' correct or nearly inclusive enough. The polite thing to have done a couple centuries ago should have been to ask the people what they call themselves, rather than (at the time) asking hostile tribe hired as mercenaries what they called their enemy. Simply avoiding use of the name 'Sioux' today would just confuse people. If the 'Sioux' people don't object to it and use the term themselves, then nobody else has a right to demand they revert back to some 'proper' historical name. I think most would identify by tribal affiliations today rather than the amalgamation of tribes now called Sioux.

What do these peoples collectively want to be called today? The (unfortunate) answer today would probably just be 'Sioux' - that's the product of 400 years of cultural genocide. I've never seen any objections to anyone using 'Sioux' except through the oral accounts of a few (now gone) elders decades ago. They were upset that the white man's school were teaching their children that they were 'Sioux indians' when there was no such thing. I haven't heard anyone regarding this as a controversy for years - it was a 70's activist kind of thing, now long forgotten.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Nov 23, 2016 4:41:24 PM | 98

thanks mina, noirette, copeland, and paveway for these posts today.. informative.. thanks.

Posted by: james | Nov 23, 2016 5:20:42 PM | 99

I like many people have assumed that the White Helmets were set up to provide a civil defence function in the terrorist-occupied areas of Syria outside government control. As such I have been conflicted about their behaviour as they do seem to rescue people but they're also appear to be involved in terrorist activities .However, I'm now beginning to wonder if the world has been duped and the primary function of the White Helmets is actually to allow western governments to fund terrorists (aka "moderates") in Syria. What better way is there to pay fit young men than have them be members of a civil defence organisation? So they spend part of their time working for the White Helmets and part of their time fighting as terrorists. Since they are most likely paid in cash, few will know what they're paid and whether it's an appropriate rate for civil defence workers, but few will question the morality of these payments and all the time western governments have plausible deniability.

Posted by: Ghostship | Nov 24, 2016 8:42:29 AM | 100

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