in re 96
Ah, the Sturmbannfuehrer speaks.

Posted by: rufus magister | Oct 27 2016 21:32 utc | 104

jdmckay,
I don’t know. China seems to SAY no more coal-plants, but to keep building them. Maybe they’re insurance against an oil blockade.
canadafreepress.com/…/china-and-japan-two-asian-economic-powerhouses-are-still-building-coal-plan
‎Sep 21, 2016 … Despite China’s ratification of the Paris global climate agreement, it is still building more coal-fired power plants. So too is Japan, who is …
Probably they’re just building the hi-tech ones & closing down the primitive ones that spew particulates that’re actually a danger to health. Their latest official report says coal power will increase by 2% annually instead of the 9% when the economy was surging, if I remember right. But it’s 2/3 of their energy so renewables can’t replace that.
Lots of Chinese households use coal too. We used to use it on the farm; you just throw it in the furnace or the kitchen pot-bellied stove. Burns a long time, but very dirty. Black dust on the snow.

Posted by: Penelope | Oct 27 2016 22:10 utc | 106

So here are examples of the cancer growing in the US
on the one hand you have government suppression of protests (ND indians and oil pipeline)
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37790839
and then you have the government mollycoddling of other protesters (the Bundy crowd at the wildlife refuge they held and trashed)
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37795012

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 28 2016 1:44 utc | 108

@105 rufus.. no, i think anyone who follows zionism and can find a way to justify what israel does under it’s name is a sick puppy.. it is one of the many reasons many jewish people have turned their back on zionism, especially the younger generations in the west… combo of israel/zionisms acts, with bds and an awareness of what a sickness zionism is will turn many more away from anyone who wants to hold to zionism..

Posted by: james | Oct 28 2016 2:54 utc | 110

To refer to zionism as a “sickness” is a form of dehumanization of the victim.

Posted by: rufus magister | Oct 28 2016 4:47 utc | 112

Saudi Arabia wants to participate in Raqqa offensive

“The kingdom is committed to the fight against ISIS in Syria as part of an international coalition, including air sorties delegated to it, whether from within the kingdom or via its warplanes stationed at the Turkish Incirlik base,” he told Al-Arabiya on Thursday.
Assiri stated that Saudi Arabia would not use ground forces during the offensive because the US wants local Syrian forces to conduct the operation.

They won’t use their ground forces … ISIS … because they’ll be withdrawing them to Syria. The Saudi warplanes from the KSA or Turkey will be piloted by the same folks who piloted the Belgian planes over Syria the other day, I imagine.

Posted by: jfl | Oct 28 2016 5:24 utc | 114

Any MoA folks customers of AT&T? You may want to read this article. You may be paying them to disrespect/sell your privacy
Its all about profit trumping (pun intended) public rights to privacy and the laws be damed.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/att-spying-program-is-worse-than-snowden-revelations/

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 28 2016 5:54 utc | 116

@jdmckay | Oct 28, 2016 12:24:05 AM | 111
Only once in 5,000 years history, they invaded Vietnam and got a good beating. China industrialization in earnest from mid 70’s. I was working for an American company as marine manager in a SEA port, boarded a Chinese cargo ship for an O/B emergency repaired on a French Rateau turbocharger. They (rank – Political Commissioner, Captain and last Chief engineer) wanna meets the “boss” so to speak before begin work. My opinion China still between stone age and 3rd world.
In early 90 travel alone extensively on business, HK-Shenzhen as gateways into China by trains, roads and commercial flights (Russian’s aircraft). To cities, Guangzhou, Shanghai, Beijing, Shenyang, Nanjing, Chunking, Tianjin, Suzhou, Hangzhou and Chongqing.
All foreigners stayed in States sanction hotels and used foreign exchange certificate (FEC) currency. NO traveler check, credit cards, or RMB, carried US$ as reserved. In cities like Shanghai and Beijing, Holiday Inn, Hilton etc. accept US$. I like Beijing and Shenyang. Shenyang where I do most of my business and Qing’s dynasty summer palaces and heavy industry base. To be polite, they’re crooks.
This chap Jeff J. Brown exaggerates, but overall he is correct base on my business and pleasures travel over the years.

Posted by: Jack Smith | Oct 28 2016 6:42 utc | 118

@119 FTB
Yep, agreed. While we all would like to believe in a 20 year voting plan to see the 2 party system cracked open, it is just wishful thinking. Sad and true. The US electoral system has been so rigged towards the two party system that change could only ever come from within – and I think everyone can see just that right now with the levelling of the Republican party…by who else but one of the system’s own creation.
People gotta stop looking for Jesus in their candidate and simply find someone to oppose the beast. And the over the top media collusion against The Don has made a hero out of Trump. As much as Stein is the sanity the world needs, they really need to start campaigning for 2020 on November 9.
Face it, Trump is not a Republican…he’s an independent or libertarian who has used the Republican platform – or perhaps he’s an old school republican, what the party used to be and 2016 is the revolution. Ironically, Hillary is an outright neoliberal neocon disguised as a Democrat. It’s all fucked up.

Posted by: MadMax2 | Oct 28 2016 11:55 utc | 120

in re 96, 97.
The Sturmbannfuehrer speaks and rallies the shock troops.
The beef from the “antizionists,” BTW, is that I’m insufficient zealous in condemning the illegal settlements and the brutalitiy needed to maintain them.

Posted by: rufus magister | Oct 28 2016 12:03 utc | 122

No – the beef is that you are a closet Zionist pretending to be otherwise.
This is why no one takes you seriously here anymore, once it became obvious that you are merely a Zionist pretending to be otherwise – simply shouting “Sturmbannfuehrer” (itself a very Zionist reaction) at anyone pointing out your complete hypocrisy, won’t fool anyone.
“Insufficient zealous” is of course your suitably duplicitous way of trying to dismiss the charge – so far I have seen you rushing to defend any slight on Zionism, laughing at claims of Palestinian victim-hood, as well as praising the extreme right-wing of Judeo-fascism. All the while pretending to be non-Zionist politically leftist – but those are not the actions of someone from the left, nor are they the actions of a non-Zionist- they are the actions of a pro-zionist racist, Rufie.
You’re not fooling anyone

Posted by: Killary PAC | Oct 28 2016 12:13 utc | 124

You’ve seen all this? Really? You’ve only been leaving your droppings here a short time, and I have said little if anything about Israel or Palestine in that time. Wishful thinking, perhaps. Or hallucinations, maybe.
I have family and friends who are Jews, and I would prefer not to see them driven into the sea by a pack of jihadis. The occupation of the West Bank and Gaza must end, and the Palestinians compensated for the damage.
They need to held to account for their war crimes dating back to the assault in 1967 on the USS Liberty and the 80’s Sabra and Shatila massacres by their Phalangist proxies in Lebanon.
I don’t see this as tracking with praise for the Israeli right, Herr Sturmbannfuehrer.

Posted by: rufus magister | Oct 28 2016 12:25 utc | 126

It’s too little too late now racist Rufie – everyone here already knows that you’re a racist Zionist – we all saw you being racist Zionist when given the chance, so trying to deny it now won’t help you one little bit
I have family and friends who are Jews, and I would prefer not to see them driven into the sea by a pack of jihadis.
hahaha – thank you racist Rufie – your immediate dash to “defend” yourself with one of the most dishonest and well-worn Judeo-Fascist tropes (“drive us into the sea!!”) is all the evidence one needs
Any knowledgeable (non-zionist natch) person here knows there’s absolutely zero chance of any jihadis running them into the sea – knowledgeable persons here know that it is the Judeo-Fascists that are trying to drive the Palestinians into the sea (or drive them off their land). Your attempt to completely invert reality is très Judeo-fascist, Monsieur Racist Rufus.
Dishonesty is after all the Zionist modus operandi

Posted by: Killary PAC | Oct 28 2016 12:42 utc | 128

Jack Smith @ 118.

Only once in 5,000 years, they invaded Vietnam and got a good beating.

With all due respect, I beg to differ. They occupied until +/- 1500. It wasn’t brutal, but was very hostile.
They also armed/financed Khymer Rouge.
This is very much in Vietnamese consciousness, kept live by China’s aggressive but (comparatively) small incursions and aggressive actions within undisputed VN waters somewhat regularly. The oil derrick “incidents”, bunch of very aggressive fishing “incursions” and couple times they actually sunk small VN fishing boats. Modern history (say last 300 years) IMO, multiple countries have demonstrated little regard for Vietnamese sovereignty & world community hasn’t seemed to give a rip.
Having spent so much time there lately, gotten to know them and become familiar with all this from their perspective, I’ve come to think of them as a “forgotten” country. On a much smaller scale compared to China, what Vietnam has accomplished since Nixon pulled us out is just as remarkable as China.
I’ll leave it at that, other then just saying my experience in VN in recent years (first time I have ever been there) has been nothing short of wonderful. I love it there, same with the people.
When were you last in China (early 90’s)? I think you’d find it much, much different now.

To be polite, they’re crooks.
(…)
This chap Jeff J. Brown exaggerates, but overall he is correct base on my business and pleasures travel over the years.

I think you both exaggerate a bit. 🙂
Anyway, thx for the read.

Posted by: jdmckay | Oct 28 2016 13:59 utc | 130

MadMax2 @131
Such an exaggeration doesn’t help.
The neolibcon velvet glove may be more dangerous than the Nazi iron fist because the tyranny is gradual and masked.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 28 2016 14:39 utc | 132

Hide behind holocaust, commit holocaust.
Posted by: MadMax2 | Oct 28, 2016 10:00:30 AM | 131
Such an exaggeration doesn’t help.
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 28, 2016 10:39:25 AM | 132
It’s a pretty good description of what people like racist Rufus do all the time.
They hide the current holocaust being carried out by making reference to the jewish holocaust of the past. All in order to silence.
And when that doesn’t work they will switch immediately to screaming something like “Sturmbannfuehrer” – it’s childish and completely transparently obvious at this stage.
It’s an old Zionist trick, which you may have noticed racist Rufus resorts to with a regularity you could set your watch by.
Former Israeli Minister Shulamit Aloni; “Anti-semitic”, “its a trick we always use it” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nex-oSKPX2w

Posted by: Killary PAC | Oct 28 2016 15:19 utc | 134

Mondoweiss: Draft of Clinton letter called BDS ‘odious,’ ‘unconscionable’ attack on ‘legitimacy of Zionism’
An email released today by Wikileaks reveals the strong pressure of the Israel lobby inside the Hillary Clinton campaign. A draft of Clinton’s famous letter opposing Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) against Israel makes what was actually sent out look almost sweet by comparison. The draft called the BDS movement “odious” and “unconscionable” and an attack on “the legitimacy of Zionism.”
That June 25, 2015 draft also included fulsome praise of Jews:

Jews have led the way on human rights and civil rights, always raising the bar. It is wrong to ignore this tradition and use the tools that were applied to apartheid to undermine the legitimacy of Zionism.

The draft was worked on by Jake Sullivan, Clinton’s foreign policy aide, along with the campaign’s ambassador to the organized Jewish community, Washington lawyer Stu Eizenstat, former deputy treasury secretary under Bill Clinton.
The draft stated that Israel shares US “fundamental values and interests”:

This campaign against Israel, a nation that shares our fundamental values and interests, is unfair and unconscionable.

Clinton’s letter to Haim Saban, dated July 2, 2015 left out “odious” and “unfair and unconsionable,” the shared “fundamental values and interests,” as well as the praise for Jews and the salute to the “legitimacy of Zionism.”
In fact, the letter seems toned down by comparison to its predecessor. The strongest emotional expression was “alarm:” “I am writing to express my alarm over the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement.” Even the word “appalled” in the draft became “concerned”– about efforts to compare Israel to South Africa.
The email shows the in-house pressure on the Clinton campaign to go even further than it did in pandering to the organized Jewish community. Eizenstat talked about Clinton having a big meeting with Jewish leaders over BDS, including many rightwingers and Republicans, maybe even Sheldon Adelson!
But both men expressed the fear that such a meeting would get out of control. They then resolved to send out a letter to 30-plus members of the organized Jewish community. In the end it was sent to just one of them, Saban.
Sullivan:

“HRC is now thinking that she can send a letter to a broader group — like all the names you’ve offered and then a few more — RATHER than hold a meeting. She is now worried about how to manage a meeting given competing perspectives and the like.”

Eizenstat:

I like the idea, since a meeting has to be inclusive, yet this might make it unmanageable, divisive (J Street vs. AIPAC), and lengthy, as everyone will have to be heard.

In that email, too, you will find Eizenstat’s suggested list of recipients. All the heavy hitters of the Israel lobby, including many rightwingers. Eizenstat even notioned inviting Adelson. Though Eizenstat redlined the idealistic young Jews of the Open Hillel movement, calling it “controversial” and siding with the head of Hillel International, Eric Fingerhut. Excerpts:

Eric Fingerhut, President of Hillel (he has had to handle the controversial “Open Hillel” movement on some California campuses and a J Street confrontation).
Jeremy Ben-Ami (J Street)(I do not think he should be excluded)
Mort Zuckerman
Ronald Lauder (President of World Jewish Congress)(former US Ambassador to Austria, and a Republican, but must be invited given his position).
Lynn Schusterman, Oklahoma (large funder of Hillel and many other Jewish causes).
Haim Saban (recently teamed with Sheldon Adelson to form anti-BDS group of wealthy donors, but already caused some controversy by excluding left-leaning groups. I do not see how Adelson can be invited because he is such a strident GOP-supporter and would be a potentially disruptive force in a meeting. But you could check with Saban).
Professor Deborah Lipstadt (Emory University).
Dov Zakheim (former senior DOD official in Bush Administration; thoughtful and wise)…

Clinton sent out her letter against BDS as a means of countering her eventual support for the Iran deal inside the Jewish community, as earlier emails disclosed.
Oh, and here is another email showing the pressure of the lobby inside the campaign. Last January, megadonor Haim Saban pushed findings to the Clinton camp that Clinton could change campus perceptions of BDS by speaking out about her anti-BDS letter. Saban wrote to the head of Jewish outreach for the campaign, Sarah Bard:

Sarah we should Talk about how to capitalize on this.I have some ideas and would appreciate your thoughts when we talk next.

Saban attached a note from an employee, Amitai Raziel, titled “HRC’s Anti-BDS Letter / Impact on Campus.”

Hi All – I thought you might find this of interest: the Israel on Campus Coalition held a recent call regarding polling that they conducted this past semester. I’ll send a fuller sum later, but there was one statistic that I think you would appreciate:
* Once informed about Hillary Clinton’s letter opposing BDS, the favorable/unfavorable views held by students regarding pro-BDS arguments shifted 11 points in the right direction.
Just a reflection that she remains a trusted source to students on these issues, and I’m glad to see she is out there conveying this viewpoint.

Sarah Bard wrote back to Saban within the hour:

Haim Thank you for sharing. I look forward to discussing and strategizing on this with you. Alex and I are in touch to schedule tomorrow. Again, thank you. Sarah

Cause that’s how you treat a big donor!
The Democratic Party Platform duly contained opposition to BDS

Posted by: Killary PAC | Oct 28 2016 15:44 utc | 136

jdmckay, you’re mistaken that I have a “gotcha” attitude about Solar. I pointed out to you that Joe Romm’s story to the effect that Solar delivers electricity at half the price of coal is false. I think you’re hostile towards documented countervailing info because you have made it a part of your identity to be loyal to the ideas of catastrophic global warming and Solar as a viable solution. Am I wrong? Don’t you feel personally attacked when I present information that contradicts your conclusions? You can’t do science or real information that way.
It would be wonderful if Solar were developed to do the job. Just consider: We wd be free of the oligarchs in a very important area: energy. The sun is decentralized power widely available which could then set industry & homes free of the grid– allowing small pockets of development anywhere. Independence for us, and development for the poor countries.
Because technology’s possibilities are boundless I suspect that non-solar technology close to free energy is already known, and blocked. Look at the full context, jd. Do you know who the people are who are developing Solar technology– or at least who are controlling the pursestrings of it? Unless the international oligarchs are overthrown they will never permit energy independent of them.
The purpose of leading us down the renewables path is to spend resources without result. Do you know what happens to the “sustainable development” subsidies we spend and make others spend abroad? When the loans can’t be repaid territory rich in natural resources & ag land is forfeit to organizations like Rothschilds’ GEF. There’s so much that you don’t know about the wider background of what you think you are fighting for. But you won’t look. You are not even troubled that you have no real data in support of this limited point about the present viability of Solar. I guess “the links are there someplace” is good enough if your emotion is strong enough.
AGW is a hoax bought by the oligarchs. The underlying source of the multiple stories you saw in support of solar and of catastrophic warming is the foundations controlled by Rockefeller, Soros and the other oligarchs. They are funding Sierra Club, World Wildlife Fund, etc. to push global warming so they can control industrial development everywhere. This is documented http://www.naro-us.org/Resources/NARO%20CA/NARO-
CA,%20US%20Senate%20Minority%20Report,%20Billionaires%20Club%20(1).pdf “The Environmental Chain of Command” Senate Report.
I continue to be open to scientific data in support of AGW and I request it from anyone who has such.

Posted by: Penelope | Oct 28 2016 16:55 utc | 138

None of these renewables would ever be in anyway profitable if they didn’t have laws mandating that all their power generated must be purchased by the grid even when it is not needed, and that they must have hydro-carbon sources like Coal and Gas electricity plants operating as a fall-back option, for when they (frequently) fail to deliver the required power
The South Australian black out — A grid on the edge. There were warnings that renewables made it vulnerable
Entire state of South Australia has power black out because of flawed climate change [remenwables] energy policy

Posted by: Killary PAC | Oct 28 2016 18:12 utc | 140

Mosul in the news and Yemen out of them?
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/246792/Egypt/Politics-/Egypt-condemns-Yemeni-rebels-missile-attack-on-Sau.aspx

Posted by: Mina | Oct 28 2016 19:26 utc | 142

@jdmckay | Oct 28, 2016 9:59:05 AM | 130
I was in Vietnam only once, visits my classmate’s parent. Stayed in their home for a week. It was a beautiful and still peaceful country just after Ngo Dinh Diem assassination. Amerika decided regimes changed.
Vietnam’s landmass and much of Eurasia (east, west, south and north) were also part of China. China in Chinese Zhongguo or Chung-Kuo mean Middle Kingdom. Got it?
Wouldn’t recognize China if I drop in today. Back than everyone travels on bicycles, only States owned companies can afford cars.
We are here to shares life experienced and not who is smarter. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Can’t dispute what written, but my personal encountered, in business and pleasure travels either confirm or dispute what other had to say.
Have a good weekend. Cheers. 🙂

Posted by: Jack Smith | Oct 28 2016 22:35 utc | 144

Oh, I forgot, they were to be driven merely to the shore, not the sea….
So no Muslim anywhere wants the destruction of Israel?
I would not think it to be the entirety of the Arab or Muslim world, nor either a majority, but I think a substantial part of the ummah wouldn’t mind seeing the Israelis pushed out. Certainly that is the overtone from the refusal to recognize the Israeli state.
Such calls were made immediately after the United Nations approved the establishment of the State of Israel. But see this video, the work of a production house with close ties to the Revolutionary Guards, for more recent evidence.
Wealthy Gulf states push and promote Wahabism. They want to purge Islam of “apostates,” i.e. all Shiites and those Sunnis who disagree with them. Islam allows for those accused of apostasy to be killed. It is this ideology motivating any number of jihadi groups.
And so what do groups like the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and other Gulf-funded fanatics propose to do with the Jews, once they occupy Jerusalem?
This certainly looks like a call to drive the Jews into the sea, justified – or at least prettied up – by Islamic theology. The “…Ummah has been promised victory and consolidation when it abides by the prerequisite causative means, ie. when it arms itself with steeds of war and prepares itself to fight for the Cause of Allah.” Riddle me this – how might it come about the “the State of the Jews will perish” after “the occurrence of a battle with the Jews wherein they will be killed” without the citizens of that state dying?
So I would say that, sadly, the fears are not entirely groundless.
I have said before that the reversal of the settlements would transform the dynamics of the region. The BDS campaign in what was styled “the Free World” (back in the original Cold War) could mobilize enough public opinion to begin this process.

Posted by: rufus magister | Oct 29 2016 0:24 utc | 146

but you keep banging on incessantly about “they want to drive us all into the see!!” if you want to – if you think that’s going to help you win the argument – and I’ll just keep pointing how the actual reality on the ground is the complete opposite of how you are dishonestly painting it.
Dishonesty and duplicity, and reality inversion, is after all what you Zionist Judeo-fascists excel at, so it’s what every one here expects from you anyway.

Posted by: Killary PAC | Oct 29 2016 1:15 utc | 148

It’s Aleppo and Raffa in Syria these Gulf-Funded Headchoppers are occupying, not Jerusalem.
Syria is a neighbour of the Zionist Judeo-Fascist state of Israel, and considered an “enemy” – so these ISIS Gulf-funded bogeymen, that are apparently such an existential threat to the poor little Judeo-fascist State of Israel are actually attacking it’s enemies for it. Wow – you’d think the Judeo-fascists should be thanking them, for that service they are rendering them, wouldn’t you?
And the only occupiers in Jerusalem are the Jewish ones – and the fascist occupiers in Jerusalem are murdering the occupied and stealing their land and homes from them

Posted by: Killary PAC | Oct 29 2016 1:30 utc | 150

Well I can see why rufus might be concerned…..if the Arabs do ever take over in Israel who will pick the grapefruit? Will the swimming pools get drained? Will felafel will be felafel again?

Posted by: dh | Oct 29 2016 1:49 utc | 152

No you wont see this on western MSM
Violent crowd attacks, insults homeless woman guarding Trump’s Hollywood star (VIDEOS)
https://www.rt.com/usa/364631-crowd-attacks-homeless-trump/

Posted by: TheLsL | Oct 29 2016 7:16 utc | 154

https://www.rt.com/usa/364631-crowd-attacks-homeless-trump/
Posted by: TheLsL | Oct 29, 2016 3:16:49 AM | 154
She’s spewing hate, bro!
The idiocy of the avg american
THIS. These people are too stupid to know just how stupid they are, and if you were to try and explain it they’d still be too stupid for you to ever even hope they’d get it. The average American.

Posted by: Killary PAC | Oct 29 2016 10:31 utc | 156

German article: Attack on school in Syria is a fake: http://blauerbote.com/2016/10/29/luftangriff-auf-schule-ist-eine-faelschung/
Feel free to translate and use it.

Posted by: Jens | Oct 29 2016 11:47 utc | 158

I would assume that it would be the Palestinians not only picking but selling and profiting from it, once they regain the West Bank and Gaza.
But actually, I seem to recall that the Israelis began to replace Palestinian with foreign labor after the first intifada. They did not want the Palestinians to be in a position, by withdrawing their labor power, to affect the Israeli economy.

Posted by: rufus magister | Oct 29 2016 12:17 utc | 160

But see this video, the work of a production house with close ties to the Revolutionary Guards, for more recent evidence.
Posted by: rufus magister | Oct 28, 2016 8:24:35 PM | 146

That must be a simply terrifying video, Monsieur Racist Rufus.
I don’t know how you can sleep well at night, what with all the terrifying things happening . . . . . . . . . in an animated video!!!!!
Shocking stuff I’m sure . . .
[shock!! Horror!! Run fer yer lives, it’s an animated video comin to get ya!!]

Posted by: Killary PAC | Oct 29 2016 13:46 utc | 162

Posted by: james | Oct 29, 2016 12:11:25 PM | 163
Still, you got to admire his duplicity in trying to mask his attempted defence of Zionist bigotry by wrapping it in a cloak of victim hood, no?

Posted by: Killary PAC | Oct 29 2016 16:25 utc | 164

The South Korean Indira Ghandi?
“At the time, Park was serving as acting first lady after her mother was killed in 1974 by a man trying to assassinate her father, military strongman Park Chung-hee, who would be murdered by his own spy chief five years later.”
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/9/246838/World/International/South-Korean-protesters-call-for-president-to-step.aspx

Posted by: Mina | Oct 29 2016 18:49 utc | 166

Putin once again refusing to bomb the terrorists

Posted by: bbbb | Oct 29 2016 23:25 utc | 168

Anyone care to speculate about the emails found on Weiner’s laptop?
The Daily Mail first broke the news of Weiner’s chats with an underage woman on September 21st. Presumeably the FBI would’ve seized Weiner’s computers shortly thereafter.
1. Why was there a delay in revealing Weiner’s texting with an underage girl? According to the Daily Mail, the girl had revealed the texting in April to her teacher and father. It seems that they decided to come forward only AFTER Huma decided to divorce Weiner.
The girl’s father is a lawyer. Is he connected to the Democratic Party?
2. Is the laptop Huma’s, Weiner’s, or shared?
It would be logical, I think, for them to have separate laptops. So, why were these emails on Weiner’s laptop?

a) Huma forgot that they were there? (Does that make any sense?)
b) Huma gave Weiner her old laptop to use when she was ready to buy another (probably thinking that her emails had been deleted)
c) Weiner took them from Huma’s laptop without her knowledge? (to have leverage in their divorce?)
d) Someone (Huma/Wiener/others) put them on the laptop knowing that they would be found? (far-fetched)

I would guess b or c.
4. Why did the FBI/Comey delay in reporting that they had the emails?

a) The emails were in an encrypted archive? (This makes most sense if Hillary was trying to keep a backup of her server – seems doubtful that Huma would’ve encrypted her email when email security was so lax) If so, how long did it take for the FBI to crack it?
b) the emails were deleted so they had to be forensically recovered
c) FBI/Comey attempt to squash?
d) DOJ interference (we already know DOJ was against Comey’s announcement)

5. Why did Huma keep the emails?

a) They are emails to Huma (backup of emails sent to her account on Hillary’s private email server?)
b) Huma (innocently) got a backup of Hillary’s email server at some point and forgot to delete it – or DID delete it but it can be recovered (or parts of it)
c) Did Hillary ask Huma to stash away an email backup from her server (So Hillary could say that she doesn’t have them)?

6. Is Huma now in legal jeopardy? I believe that she had been given immunity. But if she withheld evidence in a criminal investigation, she could be charged.
“Withholding” could also mean not telling investigators that she had retained email on her computer (even if she had previously deleted them).
And if she thought that she had deleted the emails – when did she do this deleting? Was it AFTER the subpoena had been issued?
It seems that the FBI had not previously been provided with the emails that Huma had in her possession. If the FBI wanted to aggressively pursue the case, wouldn’t they recommend that Huma be charged immediately?
7. Hillary’s call for the FBI to release what they know is a smart political move. But will AG Lynch allow FBI to release info? (DOJ has already tried to block the announcement!!)
If the FBI recommends that Huma is charged, and the DOJ refuses to do so, the need for a special prosecutor would be clear. But that could mean a weeks-long delay.
8. The FBI should already know enough that they can act quickly. But there is likely to be some delay in re-starting (agents having been re-assigned) plus bureaucratic maneuvering.
Could/should the elections be delayed to provide time for more investigation and/or a special prosecutor? Is that even possible?

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 30 2016 1:38 utc | 170

FBI Dir Comey is being pummeled by the Democratic-friendly press for making his letter public and going against DOJ wishes. They had lauded him only weeks before for the decision not to prosecute (actually he had only decided to NOT RECOMMEND prosecution). But AFAIK Comey merely sent a letter to Congress – it was Congressmen that made his letter public. Newsweek said that he may actually have been legally required to inform Congress.
Comey’s letter says:

I am writing to inform you that the investigative team briefed me on this yesterday, and I agreed that the FBI should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to access their importance to our investigation.

1) Some news outlets (like Vox, though they published the entire letter) have left out the words that I bolded when quoting from the letter. Cutting out that last part makes it seem like an “email review” instead of an ongoing investigation.
2) Some Republicans have said that the investigation has been “re-opened” – but it had actually never been closed.
3) “appropriate investigative steps” is very vague. Does that mean engaging FBI resources (like forensics) or that DOJ has been dragging its feet on issuing a subpoena? I suspect the latter, given DOJ’s admonishment and the attack on Comey from the press.
4) Some news outlets are saying that “sources” tell them that Hillary and the campaign have no connection to these newly discovered emails. That seems like mighty convenient reporting!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 30 2016 3:04 utc | 172

And on a totally different subject
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2016-10/30/c_135790497.htm
The first statement:
Scientists had long ago proposed that common swifts, a medium-sized migratory bird, might spend most of their lives in flight, but it is only now that they have managed to prove that these birds can actually fly for most of the year — 10 months — without landing.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 30 2016 5:12 utc | 174

@ 175 psycho
Thanks for the news on swifts, psycho. It’s a bouyant dream throughout the night, and an uplifting thought at dawn.
The total population of the world’s vertebrates has decreased by 58% over the 42 year interval from 1970 to 2012.

The Global Living Planet Index shows a decline of 58 per cent (range: -48 to -66 per cent) between 1970 and 2012. Trend in population abundance for 14,152 populations of 3,706 species monitored across the globe between 1970 and 2012.

The world’s human population has increased by (7,080,072,417 – 3,691,172,616)/3,691,172,616 = 91.81% over that same period.
As b points out, Facts have no bias. I am not anti-human, I just note the genocidal proclivities of our human race : Zionists, Wahabists, North Americans, Europeans, Chinese … 58% of the vertebrate population living on our planet have gone out of existence since my 27th birthday. I can’t think of anything I’ve done in the past forty-years that has in any way acted to reverse that trend. And the population of people like myself has nearly doubled over the same period.
The forecast : more of the same. Mother earth is singing you just keep on usin’ me ’til you use me up. No one is lis’nin’. Nobody here but us motherfuckin’ humans.

Posted by: jfl | Oct 30 2016 8:56 utc | 176

@178 hoarse
If one tenth the money spent on war and tertiary fossil-fuel production were spent on hydrogen storage of solar energy, and if the focus were on on-site production, not centralized facilities to feed the grid, we’d have all the energy we needed stored in a natural non-polluting form. The reasons that hasn’t been done are the same old reasons : greed, sloth, and stupidity on the part of the deaf, dumb, and blind 1% who are in charge of the TNC mismanagement class and its dependent governments.
Putin made the point last year at the General Assembly. Although Russia derives a good part of its livelihood from fossil-fuel production, Putin is more than a fossil-fueler and can see a couple of generations into the future. And he is not blinded by his addiction to illusory monetary ‘wealth’ and more and more of the same.
None of the proven reserves of petro-carbons will ‘go to waste’, they will instead replace present industrial and structural materials – the effective production and storage of hydrogen will depend upon them – they are far too precious to burn.
But the greedy, lazy, and stupid ogres are in charge, and their governments pander to them. We must beat back the financiers. the fusiliers, and the fossil-fuelers if we are to have any future at all on earth.
And we will. It will come about. The ‘payoff’ is there waiting to harvested by the outsiders.
This sanctimonious misrepresentation of ‘greed’ and ‘competition’ at the heart of human progress will collapse and give way to cooperation. The present fossil-fuel TNCs will be left choking in their own coal-dust, sucked under in the pools of their own bituminous black gold. And not a moment too soon.

Posted by: jfl | Oct 30 2016 12:00 utc | 178

Posted by: jfl | Oct 30, 2016 8:00:59 AM | 179
The technologies you linked to are too blue-sky, and alien to my background/expertise, for me to evaluate. When I referred to “practical methods of storing excess energy” I had in mind 3 potential alternatives:
1. Storing solar energy as heat in some kind of heat bank which could be used to generate electricity conventionally for a limited period of time. This method is being researched.
2. Storing the electrical output of solar panels and/or wind turbines in batteries. This is already possible but the cost/efficiency ratio of current battery technology makes it impractical to store enough electricity to run a large city for, say, 7 days.
3. Using wind and/or solar power to pump water up to a hydro power reservoir. If this was a good idea then someone would be doing it already, and no-one is doing it – which leads me to conclude that until electricity is deemed to be a global resource requiring a globally-coordinated solution, then entrenched traditional, government-owning monopolies will do their utmost to ensure that no significant progress will be made in this direction until the entrenched monopolies can profit from it.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 30 2016 13:52 utc | 180

If one tenth the money spent on war and tertiary fossil-fuel production were spent on hydrogen storage of solar energy, and if the focus were on on-site production, not centralized facilities to feed the grid, we’d have all the energy we needed stored in a natural non-polluting form.
Posted by: jfl | Oct 30, 2016 8:00:59 AM | 179
This is somewhat nonsensical – all the money in the world,won’t change the laws of physics. Nor will seemingly total incomprehension, nor any amount of wishful thinking, do so either.
Had you bothered to actually fully read the wiki-article you linked on MOF’s ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal-organic_framework ) you would have read the follow paragraphs

Structural impacts on hydrogen storage capacity
To date, hydrogen storage in MOFs at room temperature is a battle between maximizing storage capacity and maintaining reasonable desorption rates, while conserving the integrity of the adsorbent framework (e.g. completely evacuating pores, preserving the MOF structure, etc.) over many cycles.
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An association energy of 22-25 kJ/mol is typical of charge-induced dipole interactions, and so there is interest in the use of charged linkers and metals.[18] The metal–hydrogen bond strength is diminished in MOFs, probably due to charge diffusion, so 2+ and 3+ metal ions are being studied to strengthen this interaction even further. A problem with this approach is that MOFs with exposed metal surfaces have lower concentrations of linkers; this makes them difficult to synthesize, as they are prone to framework collapse. This may diminish their useful lifetimes as well.
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Sensitivity to air
MOFs are frequently air/moisture-sensitive. In particular, IRMOF-1 degrades in the presence of small amounts of water at room temperature. Studies on metal analogues have unraveled the ability of metals other than Zn to stand higher water concentrations at high temperatures.[34][35]
To compensate for this, specially constructed storage containers are required, which can be costly.
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Structural defects
Structural defects also play an important role in the performance of MOFs. Room-temperature hydrogen uptake via bridged spillover is mainly governed by structural defects, which can have two effects:
1) a partially collapsed framework can block access to pores; thereby reducing hydrogen uptake, and
2) lattice defects can create an intricate array of new pores and channels causing increased hydrogen uptake.[38]
Structural defects can also leave metal-containing nodes incompletely coordinated. This enhances the performance of MOFs used for hydrogen storage by increasing the number of accessible metal centers.[39] Finally, structural defects can affect the transport of phonons, which affects the thermal conductivity of the MOF.[40]

These are real problems with the technology in question, that have been known about for quite some time, and that may not ever be solved.
Simply stating things as you have done shows a basic lack of understanding of such technologies, ignoring not only the actual realistic scope of their potential, but more importantly, their very real physical limitations.

Posted by: Killary PAC | Oct 30 2016 14:02 utc | 182

1. Storing solar energy as heat in some kind of heat bank which could be used to generate electricity conventionally for a limited period of time. This method is being researched.
Recently been tried – Ivanpah Solar Power Facility – turning out to be a total disaster
A Huge Solar Plant Caught on Fire, and That’s the Least of Its Problems
It’s also been heavily subsidised, which is also turning out to be a bit of a disastrous financial decision.
2. Storing the electrical output of solar panels and/or wind turbines in batteries. This is already possible but the cost/efficiency ratio of current battery technology makes it impractical to store enough electricity to run a large city for, say, 7 days.
Or even for one (1) day would be nice. Plus: battery production is environmentally damaging, and requires a large amount of initial power and other resources (metals etc). So no overall gain for society.
3. Using wind and/or solar power to pump water up to a hydro power reservoir. If this was a good idea then someone would be doing it already, and no-one is doing it
Actually this has been done many places already – it’s just not the most efficient use of resources and still relies on Coal and Gas electricity sources, so it’s not an actual replacement for those sources, merely a “helping hand” at peak times.
– which leads me to conclude that until electricity is deemed to be a global resource requiring a globally-coordinated solution, then entrenched traditional, government-owning monopolies will do their utmost to ensure that no significant progress will be made in this direction until the entrenched monopolies can profit from it.
The actual problem is: transporting electricity over long distances. A LOT of money has already been thrown at that particular problem.
But the laws of physics remain unchanged alas, not being easily sway-able by piles of filthy lucre, no matter how enthusiastically or wishfully thrown.

Posted by: Killary PAC | Oct 30 2016 14:24 utc | 184

@ 181, 168
In U.S. Crecent Dunes came online about a year ago. Been ramping up month to month production, now at projected production. Provides 24/7 SOLAR generated electricity, 110 mwh, @ 0.135 US$ per kWh. And… this was only 1st generation Solar CSP. Molten Salt Storage is integral: maturing fast, closed system loops (eg: minimal, 1 time resource allocation, with +/- -0- waste/pollution), and addresses solar/pv “intermittent” issues WITHOUT batteries.
Given massive improvements in PV/CSP accross the board in just last 3 years: < 50 drop in cost, greatly increased effeciency & improved electronics and automated system management/maintenance, not too hard to see where Solar/PV/CSP is going... fast. It is illuminating to compare IEA 2014 and 2015 renewable growth forecasts to see how they are playing catch up to what is happening in real time: year on year, progress is entirely eclipsing their forecasts in REAL TIME.
China is leading the way, good overview of their Solar/PV/CSP installations and commitments here. EZ to Google through those projects to get details: it’s incredibly dynamic and promising. And like Solar/PV/CSP (and several others) meteoric effective development in real time is occurring while nay-sayers sit on their butts making-up-stuff, convincing others it’s all a grand conspiracy & a bunch of other nonsense… while the initiatives are moving forward at lightspeed. Many of these are hybrid PV/CSP systems.
Reminds me of when many tech gurus saturated media with inevitability IDE HD drives hit their feasability limits around 15 years ago… IDE was “dead”.
Can get a good indication where China’s going with the China National Development and Reform Commission Sept. 2016 statemement of feed in tariff policy (eg. this is state policy). Cost is way down (below US NG this year). They now project over 1.3 gw of production by late 2018, at 20 locations. And these are just DEMONSTRATION projects: eg. iterative implementation, R&D, improve/perfect etc… that’s how you do it!!!
Given exponential increase in China’s solar development Y2Y unpredicted by each prior year’s forecast, some predicting their 2018 PV/CSP capacity will exceed 100 gw. They are also making use of smart, common sense PV productions storage in ways not even on US Radar.
Global overview of planned (eg: financed, engineered and bid-ready) Solar/PV/CSP projects here.
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“There’s 2 kinds of people: those who think they can, and those who think they can’t. They’re both right.”

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As to there being “no benefit to society” from solar…
– Health consequences from burning coal are off the charts. Our economic metrics do not even begin to track this cause/effect. Aside from human health fallout, healthcare monetary costs fall back on consumer/taxpayers. CDC barely makes feeble effort to connect these dots.
Not unlike Trump University.
In 2000, you could hike the Appalachian Trail and largely enjoy the natual beauty with minimal visual evidence of Coal mining footprint. Since Bush stripped environmental reg after environmental reg just to enable this, it’s gotten grotesque. You can easily Google up the same for this practice’s affect on their local water supplies; devastating.
Exact same thing in Canada’s Tar Sands projects, good overview here. Good stats there on health consequences, devastation to what 10 years ago was still pristine beauty, etc. etc.
Solar/renewable development eliminates this. I’d call that a nice benefit to society.
– Destruction of water tables from Fracking is off the charts. And just like most other environmental & health devastations people here would like to think our institutions (CDC, EPA etc.) monitor, they are always… late. We don’t have technolocy to even begin considering cleaning this up other then hugely expensive ground level water treatment, which require ongoing cost in perpetuity… paid for by local taxpayers. And this doesn’t even begin to consider loss of productive land above these contaminated water supplies. The deniers come out of the wood work hurling explicatives trying to obscure this, but it doesn’t take much digging to find all this to be so.
– The environmental destruction from coal burning is not localized: air currents carry the toxins 100’s of miles affecting not just human health, but environmental health. Again, EPA does not even attempt to track this. Scripps had done studies on this (especially degradation of forest health) which KOCH’s don’t care to consider. Very good, well researched book detailing this is here (and 20 years old). It’s very unfortunate, given lack of research into cause and affect, so many buy into various cancers and immune diseases being ascribed to “genetic predisposition” and “bad DNA”.
– Continued reliance on oil means endless industrial process: extraction at source, local proccessing/transportation to super-tanker equipped harbors, endless convoys of tankers acroos oceans to harbors that can accomadate them, transportation to local refining facilities, then transportation by truck/rail throughout the country for retial distribution. Even now in early stages, PV/Solar/PV/CSP is one time investment. The farms run with minimal maintenance for min. 25 years. All the f ssil fuel distrubution energy costs, attendant pollution on 1 – 1 ratio between volume extracted >> the pump… in perpetuity, is eliminated.
All of this, Solar/renewable development meets head-on. I’d call that a VERY nice benefit to society.
Of course, none of this matters to those who are not (or not aware) of being immediately impacted… especially by serious health consequences. The same people sure get pissed when it hits them.. Just one representative case study in Denton Texas: the locals take action after their drinking water goes bad, fracking industry lawyers come in with big guns and unlimited budgets & overwhelm local finances to fight them. In this case frackers bribed State congress to outlaw local fracking bans. Similar lawsuits elsewhere have killed bans based on legal arguments that fracker’s “property rights” are dishonered by fracking bans, entirely ignoring in court even consideration of damages. Most US law “insulates” activities on land surface from consequences on water below… absent EPA acknowledgement of groundwater contamination. Since EPA has only recently begun to do this (on very small scale), frackers have near 100% success in court with these arguments.
Right on down the line… (especially in US) ignorance and unwillingness/inability and (???) to come to grips with this is mind-boggling. Every bit as destructively EVIL as our ME atrocities. These things are going on simeoultaneously, in real time, and one does not cancel/obviate the other as far as reality is concerned, as much as many like to drown out one by myopic focus on the other. It’s all part of the big picture, and this planet is every human being’s home.
And of course, all of this is greatly diminished in value for those who take the “deniers” side in man made global warming/climate change. That’s a conversation for another day. Whatever one’s “opinion”, most of developed countries have adopted polices in response to this reality and are moving on it. The U.S. is the knuckle-dragger. This election circus AFAIC a good canary-in-the-coal-mine indication as to why.
And we haven’t even begun to talk about persistent, increasing US drought the last 5 years massively impacting agricultural production. Why not blame sunspots. 🙁 That makes it all better, right?

Posted by: jdmckay | Oct 30 2016 19:41 utc | 186

Posted by: jdmckay | Oct 30, 2016 3:41:57 PM | 187
Thanks. Good rant. Lots of interesting stuff in there…

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 30 2016 21:23 utc | 188

That’s jdmck … sorry.

Posted by: jfl | Oct 30 2016 22:54 utc | 190

@192, jdmck, ‘One last thing about why I am more enamored & spend more time investigating solar then other renewable/clean sources: literally all the energy available on Earth was & is ultimately delivered by the Sun.’
The hydrogen I refer to is generated by photolysis, it’s not really a ‘renewable energy source’, the sun is the … not very renewable itself … energy source, although we flash-in-the-pan, omnipotent humans regard its life as infinite,
The H2O -> H2 + O -> H2O cycle is just that.
The first arrow is solar … PV/artificial photosynthetic/biological photosynthetic … I imagine that biological photosynthetic would be the most desirable, although artificial photosynthetic might turn out to be so. PV is not really in the running.
I suppose you could think of fossil fuels as part of a much longer cycle, with disastrous ‘side’ effects and ‘waste’ products.
As you point out, other than its own relict radioactivity, all the energy available on earth comes from brother sun.
There was an interesting article written by Michael Seibert – National Renewable Energy Laboratory, Golden, CO. It was written sometime ago, and ‘biofuels’ were still in vogue at that time. Seibert’s Figure 8 shows the relative amounts of territory required produce us gasoline production by various solar products.
Seifert also wrote a good introduction to photosynthetic hydrogen production.

Posted by: jfl | Oct 31 2016 5:35 utc | 192

Selloff in global bond markets

[I]f interest rates do start to rise, either because of an increase in inflation or an uptick in economic growth — the stated aim of QE measures — there is the risk of a major crisis as a result of massive losses incurred in finance markets.
Moreover, there is a significant difference between the situation today and that of eight years ago. In 2008 the central banks stood outside the financial markets. Today they are major players and would therefore be directly involved in any market meltdown.

And there you have it : the lie that must not be named … but interest on the lie ‘must’ be paid! After the meltdown of the central, commercial, and non-bank banks of Atlantis.

Posted by: jfl | Oct 31 2016 9:04 utc | 194

More Anti-Snake-oil info
https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/jeffrey-ball-chinas-solar-panel-boom-bust

In China, as in the rest of the world, solar is a tiny slice of the energy pie. It produced just 0.2% of China’s electricity in 2012, Yuanta Financial Holdings, a Taiwan-based firm, estimated in a recent research note. Even if China meets aggressive targets it has set out for installing more solar panels over the next several years, it will generate only 1.3% of its electricity from solar in 2020, Yuanta said.
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Investors in Chinese solar farms found cash similarly easy to come by. In 2009, China’s central government rolled out an incentive called Golden Sun, designed to spur construction of solar farms. Under the program, the government pays half of solar-farm developers’ costs.
The program is based on a key inefficiency. It pays developers based on how much money they spend on a solar farm, not on how much electricity their solar farm produces. So the subsidy doesn’t spur developers to install the most cost-efficient technology or to pick the most cost-effective sites.
More egregiously, Wang says, some Chinese solar developers have built solar farms, pocketed the Golden Sun subsidy, and then removed the solar panels and installed them elsewhere.
In 2011, China’s solar rush hit a wall. The feverish expansion by Chinese manufacturers created an oversupply of panels that sent prices plummeting some 40% in that year alone. European governments cut back their solar subsidies; given the lower panel prices, they reasoned, they didn’t have to give away so much money. Those subsidy cuts reduced investors’ interest in building solar farms. And that erosion in demand further ate into solar-panel makers’ margins.
But those minuscule numbers mask how important China’s export-focused solar-panel industry is to the country. That importance is partly about image and partly about money.

Posted by: Killary PAC | Oct 31 2016 11:51 utc | 196

Noirette | Oct 27, 2016 12:48:06 PM | 101
And that’s what “they” want – a new crisis to implement even more sever measures restricting civil liberties, to confiscate guns. It would immediately “solve the state crisis” and unite the society against common enemy: Trump+Russia+…

Posted by: ProPeace | Oct 31 2016 12:23 utc | 198

Killary PAC @ 196

Curiously, despite being posted less than a mere 48 hrs ago, two of his links don’t work at all
1) http://www.en.solar/PV/CSPplaza.com/?mzy=62-asian-clevage
2) “>http://renewables.seenews.com/news/china-says-1-35-gw-of-Solar/PV/CSP-projects-to-be-ready-by-2018-539749

your #1 was link to my statement: “Global overview of planned (eg: financed, engineered and bid-ready) Solar/PV/CSP projects here.” Comprehensive details are here. Have fun!!!
your #2 was link to my statement: “They now project over 1.3 gw of production by late 2018”. Here’s quick google search on that subject: pages of articles with same headline. Take you pick.
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Notably absent was any mention of subsidies – which is curious since this whole conversation concerning solar started with a discussion of subsidies.

Nope! Just a disqualifying sideshow you/Penelope introduced along the way.
Solar PV/CSP efficacy stands on it’s own: it works or (as of just 3 years ago it couldn’t compete on price/cost)… or it doesn’t. I’ve said China has made massive investement, R & D and real time experimentation/improvement… the Design Process: this doesn’t make US news. People can choose to read some of those links and see for themselves, it’s pretty hard to deny. You/Penelope pull up a few “subsidies”, and use it as a religious, self-righteous dis-qualification of this technologies efficacy.
And that’s where the conversation began (I started it): that China is doing this (in big way), and cost is now well below coal, and newest projects coming in under NG.
You pull up one project (Ivanpah) that’s had *some* problems (mostly corrected now), attempting to suggest this is evidence of a failed technology across the board. Aside from Ivanpah designed in 2013 (almost archaic now, not even close to state of the art) and their contractor poorly chosen (you don’t see Haliburton in any of the winning bids worldwide in last year or so), there’s (even aside from China in links I provided) well over 3 dozen successful projects across the globe. With China’s state of the art new ones BTW, exceeding these in effenciency & cost (both to build and price per kwh).
What you are really “denying” is the ability of people and organizations all over the planet to… pro-gress. A Naysayer. Holding up a sick tree in the forest to declare forests are a “scam”. And ignoring the vast real time progress, well represented in my links… to do so. And wrapping every statement you make, beginning and end, in a personal slur.
Pretty juvenile.
Killary PAC @ 197

More Anti-Snake-oil info
https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/jeffrey-ball-chinas-solar-panel-boom-bust

2013.
A little dated, to say the least.
Killary PAC @ 198

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/chinas-growing-share-of-solar-market-comes-at-a-price/2011/11/21/gIQAhPRWyO_story.html

2011. You’re going backwards my friend.
Anyway, seems I had that big red spot on your forehead with a bullseye. 🙂 Glad to get your attention.
China as voted with their $$, in a huge way. They have every right to.
You call it “subsidies”. They call it investment. Proof is in the pudding.
And their middle class is expanding rapidly; ours is in decline. They are spending billions re-training their workers for next generation technologies; ours are ending up flipping burgers in Macdonalds. Germany similarly invests heavily in their workforce: their “blue collar” workers often better trained then many US college graduates.
Looks like they are doing a lot of things… right.

Posted by: jdmckay | Nov 1 2016 0:29 utc | 200