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October 22, 2016

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Posted by: denk | Oct 24, 2016 12:36:39 AM | 101

That idiotic story (about a SK rumor) was concocted for the sole purpose of conveying the message that NK thinks Crooked Hillary will win. It's asinine drivel, ignores History, and is impossible to verify.
South Korea is a US colony.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 24 2016 6:17 utc | 101

Official Agenda for the destruction of Germany

I have no idea how true this is but a German woman dying of cancer has leaked the NWO plan for destroying Europe. She's an engineer specialising in tunnel construction, and deep bunker sites and worked on the building of a system of deep bunkers throughout Germany. She states they are being built to accommodate very large numbers of refugees to be used as a collective 'islamic weapon' to destroy Germany and with it Europe.

The GROUPS are being selected and sorted into 5 waves:

Wave 1
harmless people and children
Wave 2
sick children and elder people
Wave 3
people with infectious diseases, infertile women, widows
Wave 4
highly agressive teens and psychopaths
Wave 5
Rebels and army members, able to handle weapons and indoctrinated.

This latter group is the one residing in our bunkers by thousands already.
We are up to 30% at present, by mid of 2017 the remaining 70% will arrive by night-flights at the airports of....

Read the whole thing:
http://www.christ-michael.com/leaked-official-agenda-for-the-destruction-of-germany/

Posted by: Ixtlan | Oct 24 2016 6:40 utc | 102

Hoarsewhisperer 102

clinton or trump, the turbo charged pnac agenda will carry on.

if nk co-opted, china would really be screwd.

Posted by: denk | Oct 24 2016 8:15 utc | 103

redneck's challenge...

*we already have a 'nigger' prez, next one would be
a broad. how could any nation beat us for equal
opportunity ?*

yeah i concede, murkka , land of the 'free'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqYJRc0TJkQ

Posted by: denk | Oct 24 2016 8:19 utc | 104

You know, denk & redneck-- We could really do without the "n word" if you please. Have you forgotten your manners? To insult an entire race is really too much. You're just degrading yourselves.

Posted by: Penelope | Oct 24 2016 8:48 utc | 105

are u so daft ?

thats a conversation bet me and a redneck,
barking up the wrong tree lady. !

Posted by: denk | Oct 24 2016 9:28 utc | 106

pen 106

Posted by: denk | Oct 24 2016 9:32 utc | 107

Jack Smith: I would love it if he managed to do all of that, I sure would like him to.

chu teh: what you say makes sense to me but I haven't seen dual citizenship mentioned beyond the thing with Cruz. Multiple citizenships is an odd thing to accept and I would assume Trump is against it.

From The Hague: interesting link to a very good article from Unz and the Saker about Putin's example and what Trump might do, it's easy to see some similarities already. I agree Trump will use existing law to great effect.

I see Trump's candidacy as something close to a velvet revolution, a lot of voters are in open rebellion by voting for Trump, first against the Republican-branded establishment and now against the Democrat-branded establishment to which the absolutely worst parts of the Republican establishment relocated without movement. The primary aim of Trump is as I understand it to continue to weaken the establishment and I see term limits as a small part of that in order to throw out congress and senate. He can't simply decree it though and a constitutional amendment requires a lot of states to launch it and support it which means it requires overwhelming public support to drive it through.

Posted by: Outsider | Oct 24 2016 9:56 utc | 108

So the politically correct *unts strike again. Why is it they think they can interfere with another's words just because they suppose themselves superior in some fashion or another - fecking moralist idiots they.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Oct 24 2016 9:57 utc | 109

You have to love the commie-zionist hatred for Trump and the love for the Hell Bitch.Hillaryous.
As I've reported,the zionists for Trump are holding a rally for him on a manhole cover in Times Square.
The MSM says the election is over and she,the worst candidate in American history,is the peoples choice.
They've got another think coming.
Boy,I'm going to love the consternation by all the phony 3 dollar bills when it happens.

Posted by: dahoit | Oct 24 2016 11:39 utc | 110

Very good German Chomsky interview - in English

Posted by: somebody | Oct 24 2016 12:42 utc | 111

On the discussion of HRC’s personality. “herd creature” - several posts above.

Rather than going into ‘personality type’ (narcissist, in current common parlance), let’s examine her motivations. ‘Queen of hearts’ is apt, she strives to be a Queen in a small circle that serves her and fawns on her. Panders to her personally in direct interaction, with love, favors, gifts, compliments, doing everything for her, propping her up and commiserating and following her orders and going to bat for her .. extend the list.

Those successful in setting up sects have these characteristics, though they may vary with time and place. A recent movie - Colonia - not too bad - shows (partly) a portrait of a different type of sect.

Today, such ppl are found at high level in some corporations, academe/research, ‘soft power’ entities, and niches like top medecine (not in machine-system-type organisations like the military or the oil industry) — and, of course, politics, which is now supremely about image, propaganda, adulation, not quarterly returns.

In HRC’s case the ‘sect’ holds together through raw power, which is monetized. HRC could not be the Queen Bee of a sewing circle (the ladies would welcome and soon despise), but can gift, pay, thousands of people. Here, the corruption comes in - a kind of tit-for-tat of social favors (compliments, etc.) is projected and expanded onto the World Stage.

Bribes, money laundering, pay to play, are personal relations, procedures — morality, laws, etc. don’t apply. Private e-mail servers are part of that, She is above it all, and awarded the privilege of doing that.

So to obtain donations from KSA, Qatar, a certain ‘bent’ shall we say that favors ISIS is just par for the course. (I realise there is a long history here independent of her, which may jell with current Soros instigated manipulations / donations. Yet, it might be anybody with millions to splurge.) All, any, grist for the mill.

I wrote ‘a small circle’ above but in W politics (and capitalism) growth is mandatory, the circle has to flourish and extend more widely, a stationary position is untenable, see co-optation of the MSM. Obvioulsy such characters can only thrive in a milieu that is not only blindly accomodating but accepting and encouraging (gravy-train, personal profit, law bending of Mafia like tactics), in that sense HRC is a pure product of the USA.

If one wants to paint her as a Tragedy Queen, it was her love of Bill, and her need to hold him, that lead to this mess. (Again, personal relations.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonia_(film)


Posted by: Noirette | Oct 24 2016 13:32 utc | 112

Noirette | Oct 24, 2016 9:32:23 AM | 113

Interesting comment, yours. Much appreciated by this one; who shares your view.
HRC is a harpy war hawk; dangerous (IMO) who may well lead us to WWIII with Russia; a pointless destruction of life on the planet Earth, third water planet from Sol...

Posted by: V. Arnold | Oct 24 2016 13:45 utc | 113

Good analysis of the US election scam


Hillary Clinton needed a miracle, and the American media did their part to deliver. In addition to at least $2 billion in free airtime during Trump's nascent candidacy, a study done at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government earlier this year concluded that coverage of Trump in the Republican primary by CBS, Fox, the Los Angeles Times, NBC, the New York Times, USA Today, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington Post was overwhelmingly positive. Of course, that was then.

Posted by: somebody | Oct 24 2016 15:31 utc | 114

the insufferable snake strikes again...

*America's top diplomat for Asia said Monday that Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte's controversial remarks and a "real climate of uncertainty" about his government's intentions have sparked distress in the U.S. and other countries.*

say who ?
the country responsible for 99% of the world's
misery. !

Posted by: denk | Oct 24 2016 16:00 utc | 115

To From the Hague, Comment #8: When Trump is elected, he will use his well-honed deal-making business talents to unify his Cabinet and Congress. He has overwhelming support from the remnants of the early-day American government establishment---elements marginalized by neoconservatives and neoliberals during the catastrophic Obama administration---namely, some 200 or more generals, the Border Patrol, the Police, and many important former US government figures. Unification will be a challenge, but one he is capable of meeting. In fact, government cooperation should be the least of his problems. The real threat Trump faces comes from the neocon criminal elements, who will work outside the law to stop him from exposing their crimes, indicting them, and destroying their money-laundering schemes.

Posted by: Karl Pomeroy | Oct 24 2016 16:42 utc | 116

I think this is wonderful news...................

https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2016/10/24/belgiums-wallonia-rejects-undemocratic-eu-ultimatum-on-ceta/

Posted by: notlurking | Oct 24 2016 21:00 utc | 117

@ notlurking about rejection of CETA

I read that earlier and said some yelps of respect to those in Belgium speaking truth to power.

I think we are going to see an interesting taking of sides in the next few moths as we either go extinct or become a multipolar world.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 24 2016 21:13 utc | 118

I like this posting about the native American tribe in North Dakota that is using their opposers play book to fight back.....eminent domain

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/dakota-access-pipeline-opponents-occupy-land-citing-1851-treaty/

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 24 2016 21:34 utc | 119

Are you guys following the ProjectVeritasAction.com videos?

They've used button cameras to get video & audio proof of DNC hiring people to cause violence at Trump rallies. This is absolute dinamite: They say on camera that Hillary knows about it.

People working for the Veritas investigation go to a DNC consultant as applicants to work for them in rigging the election by causing violence at Trump's rallies. The DNC consultants brag on & on about what they do. This is called "bird-dogging" & the term is used also in the Wiki-leaks E-mails! Here is Part I. Three parts are out so far. Probably you guys have already seen this. 21st Century Wire carried it on the 18th.

https://d1sb17b1leotpq.cloudfront.net/rigging-election-video-i-clinton-campaign-and-dnc-incite-violence-trump-rallies.html

Posted by: Penelope | Oct 24 2016 22:56 utc | 120

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Now that the point spread in delegates has reached double digits, and doubts are surfacing that The Donald will top 40% of the 30,000,000 who actually vote, lol, instead of re-spamming DAT-Man's feckless posings, for a 'first 100 days' that will be spent cross-legged on a Persian carpet with Melania, hand-counting their $20 times $millions in campaign contributions, maybe we should instead focus on HRH HIllary Rodham's First 100 Days that will live in infamy, and who is going to pull her out of the potted palms, sober her up with Demerol, feed her with Tic-Tacs, then shove her in front of the adoring media.

"Oh, Hillary, choose me! Choose me!! A public parade of sychophants and accolytes more ghastly than Michael Jackson or the Kardashians, and the media brain wave messaging her every edict into our collective temporal lobes.

On to Crimea.

75

Don't be too sure about Duterte, his base is not the Right Wing he pretends to be, and he is left isolated in Davao, a puppet dancing on Chinese strings, like his neighbors in Viet Nam and Cambodia, and with the demise of Thailand's king, probably Thailand and Myanmar as well.

95

If you visit Cambodia you will find a former Pol Pot leader Hun Sen in power for decades, absolute power, and the Cambodian Holocaust a fragile memorial along the tourist schmeer to Ankor Wat, an even more ancient holocaust. The important thing to remember is there are ten million private holocausts every day, around the world, and yet the only thing that abides is Absolute Power.

As we are about to witness in the Rodham Dynasty....

Posted by: TheRealDonald | Oct 25 2016 0:07 utc | 121

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Come on, Penelope, the Maidan was only a few years ago, and surely you realize the NeoCons sent operatives to rough up the Trump supporters, hell, they were probably told to herd them into a building then torch the place. The 'secret button hole camera' schtick and this whole right-wing troll meme is just more Deep State Dirty Boys antics to get the Drooling Rabbinicals energized, in what is America's second failed flower revolution, after the demise of McCarthy and then McGovern.

They're playing you like a broken balalaika. I know you're sharper than that. America hasn't had an honest election choice since 1973, it's all been The Chosen and The Royals since Leslie Lynch King Jr. (JR Ford).

Posted by: TheRealDonald | Oct 25 2016 0:24 utc | 122

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The first Nobel Peace Prize that wasn't, Kissinger, and why it's absolutely pointless to believe in R&D, there is only the OneParty of Mil.Gov.Fed.Biz.
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/08/12/george-will-confirms-nixons-vietnam-treason

Posted by: TheRealDonald | Oct 25 2016 2:13 utc | 123

I have posted a followup essay to "How Peter Thiel Could Put Trump Over the Top (with inspiration from tecchie Berners) – Part I". Unsurprisingly, this is called "How Peter Thiel Could Put Trump Over the Top (with inspiration from tecchie Berners) – Part II" @ https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/598k8a/how_peter_thiel_could_put_trump_over_the_top_with/

Posted by: metamars | Oct 25 2016 3:14 utc | 124

The Real Donald @ 124, It's one thing to have an allegation that DNC is causing violence at Trump rallies.
What gives this political power is the somewhat hilarious braggadocio of the fellow-- as he goes on & on
implicating himself, the DNC & Hillary. It must have been tremendous fun to make such an undercover film.
Standing there, looking impressed, just letting the fool rant on.

Posted by: Penelope | Oct 25 2016 4:02 utc | 125

Why, I'm shocked and appalled. An entire Presidential campaign and its supporters, moved to violence, by the work of two obscure Democratic operatives!

Why, one would have thought it was the bile that came from the podium. You know, the shit the true believers came out to hear.

But no, Day-Glo Organe Doodie (TM) don't stink, though it is huuuuuuuuge! It's always the lying bimbos, the rigged media, the corrupt establishment (that he's part and parcel of), the dog eating his debate notes, and not the words coming from his... whatever.

You know, it doesn't matter how enthusiastic the crowds are, if it is exactly the same people that have always come out. His present messaging is aimed at his base.

I still find the key metric to be the fear of the GOP electoral pros that they will lose control of the Congress.

Posted by: rufus magister | Oct 25 2016 12:12 utc | 126

America hasn't had an honest election choice since 1973, it's all been The Chosen and The Royals… - the Real Donald @ 124.

All-Rightie.

What is an honest election? With Gvmt. - MSM - PTB control, deciding what surfaces or not on the ballot(s), not to mention more local-directed moves - gerrymandering, vote / election fraud, vote coercion, "Diebold", and massive corruption on many levels ?

Plus, what power does the Prez. of the US actually have once in office? Open doors I know..

A sham, which serves two purposes, first as a money-power-making machine for those ‘in the scene’ (who might not care at all about who ‘wins’), second as a kind of Beacon on the Hill model that can be supposedly exported, imposed, forced, by hybrid war, mostly w. bombing, which has created *massive* profits for a few sectors.

The Trump campaign (on some points..), and vids like that of O’ Keefe and the Wikileaks of Podesta e-mails reveal some of the corruption (nothing surprising), do seriously wake up many who had no clue, and leads them to rally behind the (seemingly) anti-Establishment candidate, that is the interest. What happens next? Serious question?

Posted by: Noirette | Oct 25 2016 14:35 utc | 127

lessers of evils and choices 2016:

Gil Fulbright 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gazOeC8B3oA

Giant Meteor 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks1cXntLd7U

Canada for President 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCyzdD0vYOw

Posted by: Curtis | Oct 25 2016 14:55 utc | 128

14 more days. Crooked Hillary is going all out on this one with the Soros rigged voting machines in Arizona, California, Colorado, Washington, D.C., Florida, Illinois, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey, Nevada, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Washington, and Wisconsin., but they're also hedging their bets in case Trump somehow manages to get elected. $1.8 billion Clinton Foundation dollars have been transferred to the Qatar Central bank and a new estate is in place in the Maldives (no extradition), just in case 'retirement' beckons...

https://theinternationalreporter.org/2016/10/17/hillary-clintons-sudden-move-of-1-8-billion-to-qatar-central-bank-stuns-financial-world/

Posted by: George Hayduke | Oct 25 2016 15:31 utc | 129

rufus magister @ 129

To fix your distortions:

>> Why, I'm shocked and appalled. A [small number of supporters in the crowd] moved to violence by [a conspiracy] of [multiple, formerly-] obscure Democratic operatives [who met monthly with Obama, hold daily conference calls with the Killary campaign daily, collectively conceived and executed plans to incite fights if not riots, etc, etc, etc]!

>> Why, one would have thought it was the bile that
>> came from the podium. You know, the shit the true
>> believers came out to hear.

With you downplaying DNC corruption, your own credibility is suffering here.

>> But no, Day-Glo Organe Doodie (TM) don't stink,

Nobody thinks this. Nobody.

...

>> I still find the key metric to be the
>> fear of the GOP electoral pros that they
>> will lose control of the Congress.

I hope so. Now, if we can convince jackass voters to make the jackasses also lose control, we might make some progress.

Posted by: dumbass | Oct 25 2016 16:09 utc | 130

@129 How do you feel about Hillary's no fly zone for Syria rufus? Good idea?

Posted by: dh | Oct 25 2016 16:19 utc | 131

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Don't be too sure about Duterte, his base is not the Right Wing he pretends to be, and he is left isolated in Davao, a puppet dancing on Chinese strings, like his neighbors in Viet Nam and Cambodia, and with the demise of Thailand's king, probably Thailand and Myanmar as well.
....
Posted by: TheRealDonald | Oct 24, 2016 8:07:33 PM | 123

It's true that Duterte is not part of the Philippines Establishment but the most strident calls against his murder-based drug solution come from that beacon of Sweetness, Light & Mercy, AmeriKKKa (and C*ck-sucking Allies such as Oz).

SBS Dateline have produced a doco showing the downside - kids and innocents slaughtered by mistake. There is also a brief interview with a married couple who've signed on as contractors (20+ hits so far). On the other side of the coin the Cop in charge of the program says that 700,000 addicts/dealers have surrendered and are either in jail on remand or in rehab which involves abstinence, lots of healthy, compulsory, exercise; so he's not the most unpopular leader in Ph history.
This is the website. The vid is easy to find (circa 25mins).
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/dateline

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 25 2016 17:15 utc | 132

@dumbass: rufus has no credibility.

@dh: Hillbots like rufus are playing down Hillary's militarism before the election. rufus claims that Hill's support for NFZ is just her public position (see @67 and my response @76).

LOL! Don't worry, everyone knows she's a liar - she won't actually start WWIII. Pinky swear.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 25 2016 17:27 utc | 133

To the many Trumpeters, those great and small, red hats and green tea, talkin' smack all.

Y’all gotta be huffin’ some serious nosefuls of that fragrant Donnie Doodie. I mean, y’lll just regurgitate the talking points. Well, except even more loudly and crudely.

You must pretty desensitized by now. You seem like you don’t have any senses. The Donald, bringing back the rule of law and valuing in the Constitution! ROTFLMAO. Again!

Uh, stiffing your contractors and forcing them to sue you is not the rule of law. Nor is saying you will detain your opponents on your own say-so a Constitutional value.

Yet, some how, for all these big crowds, the professional operatives at the GOP still feel worried. What, don't you get extra votes for your enthusiasm?

So I guess that's why the GOP continues to worry about the offices down the ballot.

And of course, if you think you’re on course for a huuuuuuuuge victory, candidates don’t normally sue when you link them to the guy at the top of the ticket.

And what an idiotic idea – dozens of incidents over months and months, all due to two still-obscure Democratic operatives on yet another bullshit tape by convicted felon and serial fabricator O’Keefe. Nah, that one don’t smell neither. Well, not too much, but I am upwind.

And I wonder where in this crowd our two operatives were the other day? Donald Trump Instructed 400 People to Shout Insults to My Face. Hmmm, seems like maybe on the platform. Inside of a certain comb-over.

The chief Spokesfraud, Conway and Hannity apparently cooked up a scenario where they win in the Electoral College. They only get just the 270. The real problem being, they’re well behind in many of the states and districts they say they’ll need. Florida is apparently the latest area where The Spleen Mean Orange Machine has lost ground. Most analyses find a win in Florida is an absolute necessity for a Trump victory scenario.

Here's a little tidbit from one of my favorite news websites. The ILWU says -- union members don't let union members vote for the anti-union Republican.

The McClatchy chain was one of the few news organizations not to swallow the Second Gulf War lies. Here they are taking the piss out of Brexit.

Hey, let me do you a solid. I removed any incorrect information from your post at 136. Reads a lot better.

“rufus magister @ 129”

Posted by: dumbass | Oct 25, 2016 12:09:24 PM | 136

The bit about “losing credibility” really made me chuckle. I thought most of you "antizionist" and Trumpeter low-lifes already hated my guts. And I’m totally cool with that. Haters gotta hate.

"now the US Gov't." ROTFLMAO. Calm down, take a deep breath, clearly you're under a lot of stress and delusional.

Bad idea, because it ain't gonna happen. It ain't gonna happen, 'cuz it's a bad idea. It would effectively provide the jihadis air support. The Russian Federation looks to be gaining ground, they and Damascus are unlikely to throw that away.

But politically, quite good, gives the air of "doing something" and "getting tough." Because Clinton knows it would require obtaining Russian approval, which is not going to happen, it's quite safe.

Should it move beyond the talking point stage, the inevitable Russian smack-down can be rolled into the Evil Russian Bear meme. If you're at Foggy Bottom, what's not to like?

Posted by: rufus magister | Oct 26 2016 5:15 utc | 134

@ #134.
More pompous, blokey, nonsense from Caroline (We Con The World) Glick's over-masculinised "rufus" alter-ego/fake personality.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 26 2016 18:28 utc | 135

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