Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
September 30, 2016
Syria – The U.S. Propaganda Shams Now Openly Fail

The Obama administration, and especially the CIA and the State Department, seem to be in trouble. They shout everything they can against Russia and allege that the cleansing of east-Aleppo of al-Qaeda terrorist is genocidal. Meanwhile no mention is ever made of the famine of the Houthis in Yemen which the U.S. and Saudi bombing and their blockade directly causes.


by Carlos Latuffbigger

But more and more major news accounts support the Russian allegation that the "moderate rebels" the U.S. is coddling in Syria are actually in cahoots with al-Qaeda if not al-Qaeda itself.

Reuters reports (though only at the end of a longer story):

In Aleppo, rebels in the Free Syrian Army are sharing operational planning with Jaish al-Fatah, an alliance of Islamist groups that includes the former Syrian wing of al Qaeda.

Meanwhile, in nearby Hama province, FSA groups armed with U.S.-made anti-tank missiles are taking part in a major offensive with the al Qaeda-inspired Jund al-Aqsa group.

The Wall Street Journal is more direct and headlining: Syria Rebels Draw Closer to al Qaeda-Linked Group

Some of Syria’s largest rebel factions are doubling down on their alliance with an al Qaeda-linked group, despite a U.S. warning to split from the extremists or risk being targeted in airstrikes.

Some rebel groups already aligned with Syria Conquest Front responded by renewing their alliance. But others, such as Nour al-Din al-Zinki, a former Central Intelligence Agency-backed group and one of the largest factions in Aleppo, pledged allegiance for the first time to the front in recent days.

Indeed the al.Qaeda affiliate Fateh al-Sham announced publicly that the CIA's Nour el-Din Zinki and Suqour al-Sham joined its Jihad

As little back as August the State Department defended Zinki after some of its member abducted a Palestinian boy from a hospital near Aleppo and beheaded him in front of a video camera:

[I]n State Department briefings, [..] spokesman Mark Toner downplayed the incidents, or the possibility that the US would stop arming Nour al-Din al-Zinki just because they beheaded a child..

Toner insisted [..] “one incident here and there would not necessarily make you a terrorist group.”

The new news reports follow after an interview by the German former politician and journalist Jürgen Todenhöfer with an al-Qaeda commander published in English on this site. The commander said that Nusra (aka al-Qaeda) were directly supplied, via a subgroup, with U.S. TOW missiles. He added about such groups:

They are all with us. We are all the al-Nusra Front. A groups is created and calls itself "Islamic Army", or "Fateh al-Sham". Each group has its own name but their believe is homogeneous. The general name is al-Nusra Front. One person has, for example, 2,000 fighters. Then he creates from these a new group and calls it "Ahrar al-Sham". Brothers, who's believe, thoughts and aims are identical to those of al-Nusra Front.

Another interview recently published by the former military Jack Murphy was with a Green Beret soldier who served in Turkey and Syria. The Green Berets are special forces of the U.S. army. They are specialists in training and  fighting with indigenous guerrilla groups against governments the U.S. dislikes. The soldier interviewed was ordered to train "moderate Syrian rebels" in Turkey. Parts of the interview (paywalled) are quoted here:

"No one on the ground believes in this mission or this effort”, a former Green Beret writes of America’s covert and clandestine programs to train and arm Syrian insurgents, “they know we are just training the next generation of jihadis, so they are sabotaging it by saying, ‘Fuck it, who cares?’”. “I don’t want to be responsible for Nusra guys saying they were trained by Americans,” the Green Beret added.

Murphy states bluntly: “distinguishing between the FSA and al-Nusra is impossible, because they are virtually the same organization. As early as 2013, FSA commanders were defecting with their entire units to join al-Nusra. There, they still retain the FSA monicker, but it is merely for show, to give the appearance of secularism so they can maintain access to weaponry provided by the CIA and Saudi intelligence services. The reality is that the FSA is little more than a cover for the al-Qaeda-affiliated al-Nusra. …

It is one thing when Russia says somesthing, but another when Reuters, WSJ, and independent German and U.S. subject experts report this as facts. The first can be shunned as "Putin lies" but the others are extremely hard to refute.

The Russians are right. The U.S. did not separate the "moderate rebels" from al Qaeda, as it had agreed to in the ceasefire agreement, because the "moderates" and al-Qaeda are the same. The "moderates" are al-Qaeda. This was not unknown. The 2012 Defense Intelligence Analysis said as much. The CIA of course knew this all along. But the Saudi tool heading the CIA, John Brennan, can not admit such as his masters in the Gulf are also the ones who finance al-Qaeda.

They buy the weapons Brennan's people hadn over to al-Qaeda. The "end-user" according to this certificate for a weapon buy in Ukraine is Saudi Arabia. But who will believe that the Saudi dictators need for example 100 obsolete T-55 tanks? The weapons on the certificate, for an estimated $300-$500 million, are obviously for al-Qaeda in Yemen and in Syria. (Did Joe Biden or his son, both heavily engaged in Ukraine, get a provision from the deal?)

As the facts accumulate how long can the New York Times and Washington Post keep up with their propaganda claims. One has to admit, they really try their best. Unfortunately for them, their best is only mediocre. The NYT today found out that Vladimir Putin Relishes His Role as Disrupter. How does the NYT know what Putin "relishes"? The reporter did not ask Putin himself. But he did ask some knowledgeable experts with insight into Putin's inner mind and those assured the author that this is indeed the case. They know exactly how Putin feels. They are Richard Haass, the president of the Council on Foreign Relations, James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence, James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director and Robert Kagan, leading voice of of the neocons and Clinton promoter. Some "experts".

Add that to dozens of stories on how "Russia indiscriminately bombs civilians/hospitals/bakeries in east-Aleppo" but never hits any "rebels" because none occur in these stories at all. A recent NYT piece of that kind had 14 "voices" in it. Eight belonged to various propagandists associated with the "White Helmets", four were "western" diplomats, one Syrian government official and a Russian spokesperson were quoted at the end. No Russian military and no one from west-Aleppo, where by far most people in the city live under government protection and daily rocket hail by the "rebels", were even asked.

But all those tales we hear about the devilish Russians MUST be true! Even the 7 years old Bana Alabeb now tweets from east-Aleppo about her tragic fate under indiscriminate Russian assaults. This in perfect English and with an excellent WiFi and Internet connection as her many "White Helmets" photo attachments and her videos attest. But the whole city is devastated and in ruins she says, with phosphor bombs going off right in front of her house.

But Bana is a very responsible little lady:

Bana Alabed @AlabedBana

Dear world, it's better to start 3rd world war instead of letting Russia & assad commit #HolocaustAleppo

1:53 PM – 29 Sep 2016

Here "mother" phoned up the Daily Mail for an "exclusive" and assures us that this is all true. The Telegraph has her in a slideshow with sad music and the Guardian promotes her too. Another Gay Girl in Damascus media fail. In 2011 the Guardian also was part of that scam. If that 7-year old girl is in east-Aleppo and not in Denmark or the UK, I must be on Mars. No sane reader will take such a stunt serious. What Public Relation company came up with this sorry flimflam?

Like the "moderate rebels" fantasy, such tales and the nonsense the "White Helmet" propaganda outlet distributes, are starting to fail. The UAE's National, a well established international newspaper, recently dug a bit around the White Helmet's creator, a "former" British military agent working for Gulf defense interests. That does not sound charitable. This is noticeable report, even as it still lacks any details, as it is the first in a major paper that shows some auspiciousness against that outlet.

The Obama administration's lies about the "moderate rebels" are now openly discussed in major media. The propaganda of #HolocaustAleppo (isn't abusing the holocaust meme anti-semitic?) is turning into a laughing stock.

Russia is upping its stake in Syria. Additional Russian SU-24, SU-25 and SU-34 jets are arriving. Nearly 6,000 Russian soldiers are on the ground. The CIA's  al-Qaeda "rebels" are losing in east-Aleppo and are in stalemate and under pressure elsewhere. They will be bombed to smithereens. A few new BM-21 multiple missile launchers and heavier anti-air artillery was delivered to them. But those are just band-aids on lethally bleeding wounds. Even MANPADs will not change the situation one bit.

The U.S., the Saudis and especially Brennan's CIA have lost that fight. Will Obama and Kerry admit it? Or will they throw another Hail Mary and do something crazy?

Comments

@Seward #96:
a very secular but strongly Zionist GI from Philadelphia … The guy didn’t seem to have any religious motives, he was entirely non-practicing and completely secular far as I could tell. But he was very strongly nationalistic, outspokenly so, for his primary loyalty.
The religion of Judaism is incidental and optional to Jewish identity. The core component of Jewish identity is the ingroup affiliation, and seeing everyone else as outgroup.

Posted by: Demian | Oct 1 2016 14:37 utc | 101

Openly fail? Well, the White Helmets nonsense continues. Here a sleeping baby is “revived” (CNN headline claims: Syrian baby came back to life).

1) The baby is unharmed. If it had been harmed, it would be screaming.
2) For a baby to be knocked unconscious, it would have to have been harmed.

I see this propaganda as aimed at Western women who would otherwise be a segment of society that is most adverse to go to war.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 1 2016 15:03 utc | 102

@ ToivoS Sep 30, 2016 61
Yes, I was astounded at this as well. Likely shouldn’t have been (Soros funded, we hear?), and came to bring the link to ‘Worse Than a Slaughterhouse: 250,000 Trapped in East Aleppo Amid Devastating Bombing Campaign
Full-tilt anti-Assad for the Imperium.
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/9/29/worse_than_a_slaughterhouse_250_000

Posted by: wendy davis | Oct 1 2016 16:01 utc | 103

b, funny thing about the cartoon. Russia says the same thing.
‘Same people shedding crocodile tears over Syria, support terrorists in country’ – Syrian amb. to UN
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/361309-syria-us-russia-un/
Meanwhile yet another hospital hit and white helmet sheds tears for the Nobel Prize. (It sounds like there’s nothing but hospitals in Aleppo.)
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/30/health/syrian-white-helmet-defense-volunteer-breaks-down-trnd/
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/01/middleeast/syria-aleppo-bombing/
So why hasn’t al Nusra removed the children unless they’re being used as human shields and propaganda props. Shameful!

Posted by: Curtis | Oct 1 2016 16:13 utc | 104

thnx Demian 81 and woogs 100.
TWA800 is another event where the govt lied and engaged in a coverup. At the time, like OKC I was curious but didn’t dig too deep. Since then I’ve read a good bit and viewed documentaries as well. Like USS Liberty, these are evidence that we should question everything from the govt especially if/when they tell us not to.

Posted by: Curtis | Oct 1 2016 16:15 utc | 105

Audio Reveals What John Kerry Told Syrians Behind Closed Doors

“The conversation took place days after a brief cease-fire he had spearheaded crumbled, and as his Russian counterpart rejected outright his new proposal to stop the bombing of Aleppo. Those setbacks were followed by days of crippling Russian and Syrian airstrikes in Aleppo that the World Health Organization said Wednesday had killed 338 people, including 100 children.
At the meeting last week, Mr. Kerry was trying to explain that the United States has no legal justification for attacking Mr. Assad’s government, whereas Russia was invited in by the government.
“The problem is the Russians don’t care about international law, and we do.”
Mr. Kerry has been hamstrung by Russia’s military operations in Syria and by his inability to persuade Washington to intervene more forcefully. He has also been unable to sell Syrian opponents of Mr. Assad, like the ones in that room, on a policy he does not wholeheartedly believe in.
His frustrations and dissent within the Obama administration have hardly been a secret, but in the recorded conversation, Mr. Kerry lamented being outmaneuvered by the Russians, expressed disagreement with some of Mr. Obama’s policy decisions and said Congress would never agree to use force.”

More – http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/09/30/world/middleeast/john-kerry-syria-audio.html?_r=1

Posted by: h | Oct 1 2016 17:50 utc | 106

@TS 61, @62 AS, @js 67, @72 la, @74 Ob, @ WD 103
Syria’s Heroic Fight Against Western Imperialism

Because of the tremendous determination of its people, Syria is still standing! But it is standing against all odds. Its Golan Heights are illegally occupied by Israel, its borders constantly violated by the Turkish military, and by the West’s ‘special forces’ and air force … Syria is standing!
Five million Syrian people have already been forced to leave their country. Now they are being scattered all over the Middle East: throughout Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Egypt, and Turkey. Some have even gone as far as Europe, Canada and Chile.
How much more can one country endure?
And how can the rest of the world just stand by and watch as it is put through hell?
The answer is obvious: the rest of the world does not know; it does not understand! The propaganda coming out of the Western mass media outlets and indoctrination-spreading institutions is so thorough, so professional, that to most of people all over the world everything related to Syria appears to be blurry, murky, and incredibly complex. President al-Assad is demonized on a daily basis. Heroic resistance is called the “regime’s brutal actions”, pro-western terror groups are described as “moderate opposition.”

Amy Goodman is just one more of the “Western mass media outlets and indoctrination-spreading institutions” when it comes to anything having to do with apartheid, zionist Israel. And, with her seeming bona fides in other areas, is an exceptionally effective one. A real mole’s mole.

Posted by: jfl | Oct 1 2016 18:44 utc | 107

@86
Russia warns US against ‘direct aggression’

Russia has warned that any “direct aggression” by the US against the Syrian government or army would lead to “frightening, tectonic shifts” in the Middle East.
The warning by Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova on Saturday came after US officials said Washington had begun considering tougher responses to an ongoing Syrian assault on Aleppo, including military options. … with Syrian advances on Aleppo gaining momentum, US officials have hinted at direct attacks on Syrian troops.
US aircraft recently bombed Syrian army positions in Dayr al-Zawr, killing 83 soldiers. The airstrike, which helped Daesh briefly overrun government positions in the area, was characterized by Washington as unintentional but Syria rejected the allegation.
Last week, the Middle East Eye news portal cited a source close to militants as saying that the US was resolved to prevent the fall of Aleppo.

If not at Deir Ezzor it appears that Syria/Russia are drawing the line at Aleppo.

Posted by: jfl | Oct 1 2016 19:18 utc | 108

I rather liked the report on the latest “bombing” of the M10 hospital. According to witnesses, the Syrian/Russian planes apparently used barrel bombs, cluster bombs AND chlorine. Nothing was left out in the count of standard horrors, except bunker-busters. Now, why did they forget those?

Posted by: Laguerre | Oct 1 2016 19:36 utc | 109

@ToivoS #61:
Amy Goodman of Democracy Now and the local Pacifica radio station (KPFA) are running Syrian rebel propaganda pieces without questioning them.
LOL. In the documentary film Shadows of Liberty, about the corporate control of news in the US, she says (0:47:00)

In this high-tech digital age with high definition television and digital radio, all we ever get is static. A veil of distortion and lies and misrepresentations and half-truths that obscure reality.

In the case of Syria, she doesn’t even give us half truths.

Posted by: Demian | Oct 1 2016 19:36 utc | 110

I thought Kerry’s audio was pretty astounding (re 106). The guy really wanted to go to war against Russia?

“I think you’re looking at three people, four people in the [Obama] administration who have all argued for use of force, and I lost the argument,” Kerry said. “I’ve argued for the use of force.”

Posted by: Laguerre | Oct 1 2016 19:54 utc | 111

@111 LG
Audio Reveals What John Kerry Told Syrians Behind Closed Doors

“So you think the only solution is for somebody to come in and get rid of Assad?” Mr. Kerry asked.
“Yes,” Ms. Shehwaro said.
“Who’s that going to be?” he asked. “Who’s going to do that?”

‘The 40-minute discussion, on the sidelines of last week’s United Nations General Assembly in New York’ has been cherry-picked by the NYTimes in service of its own neo-con POV. It’ll be interesting to see a full transcript.

Posted by: jfl | Oct 1 2016 20:11 utc | 112

jfl@112
“So you think the only solution is for somebody to come in and get rid of Assad?” Mr. Kerry asked.
“Yes,” Ms. Shehwaro said.
“Who’s that going to be?” he asked. “Who’s going to do that?”
“Three years ago, I would say: You. But right now, I don’t know.”
Ms Shehwaro should have said… you have enough nuclear capacity to destroy Russia 10 times over, whereas they only have the capability to destroy you once. Kerry will have needed several months for that truth to penetrate his thick skull.

Posted by: harrylaw | Oct 1 2016 20:57 utc | 113

The Guardian’s editorial board weighs in on international law and the United Nations. The Syrian crisis “has dramatically exposed the inherent weakness of the UN system and the growing disrespect shown by states for international law.” Such as pouring arms and jihadi terrorists into a sovereign state with the goal of removing its legitimate government? No, of course not. Not surprisingly “Russia is the worst offender” , despite its explicit defence of international law last year at the UN as it announced its support for Syria’s legitimate government which was being destabilized by UN designated terrorist groups. Crimea was an “egregious breach” of international law, Russia’s “complicity” in the downing of MH17 is an “unforgivable outrage”, Russia’s hacking of American political parties demonstrates its “serial disregard for international norms”, activity which “risks a fundamental erosion of the UN Charter”. China is then also singled out followed by: “Recent joint naval exercises in the South China Sea suggest Russia and China are grimly intent on backing up each other’s bad behaviour.”
Oh, and the illegal invasion of Iraq which kicked off the destabilization of the Middle East and North Africa, and which deliberately flouted the institution of the UN and international law? It was a “damaging precedent”.
The language is so extreme, the analysis so skewed, and the villains are portrayed as hopelessly depraved and aggressive. This is war talk, and these fools obviously have no concept of consequence.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/01/observer-view-russian-actions-syria-influence-international-law

Posted by: jayc | Oct 1 2016 21:13 utc | 114

re 114. So the Guardian is on-board for the (British) government agenda. That’s nothing new. Yesterday, a Martin Chulov article was even entitled, ‘Sectarian attacks upon East Aleppo’, though it was toned down later.

Posted by: Laguerre | Oct 1 2016 21:31 utc | 115

The US whining is evidence of impotence. They would have done something militarily by now if they could. Fact: the US has no good military option. All are too risky and the jihadists are unreliable.

Posted by: Alaric | Oct 1 2016 21:54 utc | 116

92 Winston
Good. Keep your eye on the prize.
Remember Putin’s internal enemies, so-callef Atlantic Integrationists, are Rothschild proxies/collaborators.
The recent demotion (read firing) of Putin’s longtime Rothschild handler Sergei Ivanov, with him since the days of Boris Berezovsky, occurred just two days after Erdogan humiliated the Russian President immediately prior to and during the much ballyhoo’d rapproachment twixt Turkey and Russia.
It is my strong belief that Putin’s fury resulted from his perception that he had been intentionally sabotaged by Rothschild proxy traitors within his own government, who have been holding VVP’s since long before he became Pres. Recall the ‘excuse’ given by Russian Fifth Column Zionist Media was that Ivanov was replaced due to his mucking up Putin’s recent law consolidating roughly 1.5 million security personel under his direct control. Some within Russia believe this was also an act of Rothschild sponsered sabotage, potentially invalidating Putin’s control of security forces during a planned future coup d’etat.

Posted by: C I eh? | Oct 1 2016 22:14 utc | 117

#112 & #113:
The window for that coup scenario passed four years ago with the botched Damascus bombing (which killed Assad’s brother-in-law). The Syrian Government not only survived that attempt, but the Syrian middle has since coalesced around supporting it (even though they might have their disagreements with it). The Syrian expats who were brought into a coalition by Bush never were able to set aside individual differences to support someone as a “Syrian Chalabi” and yet they continue to expect that the US will be able to install one of them as Syria’s strongman. There are good reasons that they don’t want to run against Assad in a free and fair election.

Posted by: Rusty Pipes | Oct 1 2016 22:19 utc | 118

Not to be left behind, Brits’ Telegraph replicates old propaganda that readers here will recall.
Telegraph quotes US STate Department spox, Mark Toner as saying he expects east Aleppo will soon fall.
Shia fighters join Assad’s troops to prepare for final assault on Aleppo
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/01/john-kerry-suggests-syrian-elections-include-assad-as-hospitals/
1 OCTOBER 2016 • 9:55PM
Syrian rebels and civilians in the besieged eastern half of Aleppo are bracing for an onslaught ground assault by Syrian regime forces and their Shia fighter allies which could once and for all end the opposition’s resistance in the city.
US officials said they were seeing signs that thousands of troops from across the Shia world – including Syrian regime soldiers, Iranian Revolutionary Guards, Hizbollah fighters, Iraqi militiamen and Afghan mercenaries – were massing for a final assault on Aleppo. [.]
As US-led diplomatic efforts to broker a truce continued to stall, Moscow warned Washington against intervening militarily against the Assad regime, saying that American strikes against Damascus would have “terrible, tectonic consequences”. [.]
The assault force gathering outside Aleppo is reported to be made up of 10,000 troops and their goal is to finally recapture the rebel-held east of the city and bring an end its four-years of defiance against Bashar al-Assad and his regime.
“There appears to be forces massing for some kind of assault on Aleppo,” said Mark Toner, a spokesman for the US State Department. When asked how long before the city fell to attackers, he replied: “It could be soon”. [.]

Posted by: likklemore | Oct 2 2016 0:12 utc | 119

Good old BBC According to the UK-based monitoring group the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, almost 4,000 civilians have been killed in one year of Russian strikes.
But Western public opinion seems largely unmoved by the struggle; perhaps to an extent a reflection of war weariness in the wake of the campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq.
And there has been a good level of confusion.
Russian information operations, which insist upon presenting their Syrian campaign as a struggle for civilisation against terrorism, may convince few but pro-Russian trolls.
[photo: Russian President Vladimir Putin addresses participants and guests of a Mariinsky orchestra concert in the ancient theatre of Syria’s ravaged Palmyra via a video link from the Bocharov Ruchei state residence in Sochi on 5 May 2016Image copyrightGETTY IMAGES
Image caption
President Putin addressed a concert held in the theatre in Palmyra]
They do, though, further complicate a story that is already so complex that many in the West, sceptical about their own governments’ records, seem unwilling to get excited about what Russia is up to.
The importance of information operations was most clearly illustrated by the extraordinary concert mounted in the ruins of Palmyra after its recapture from so-called Islamic State (IS) by Syrian forces.
This, though, may have been directed as much at public consumption in Russia as at audiences abroad.
Mr Kofman says: “The Kremlin has skilfully managed how the Russian public sees this intervention.
We learn a few things here. (1) good humanitarians spread the news of the atrocities committed by the regime and the Russian (few fingers are pointed by forces provided by Iran, god job, Mr. Suleimani!) (2) Western opinion is unmoved (3) Russian propaganda could convince only the trolls (4) they still manage to complicate the Western information efforts and thus are evaluated as skillful.
How does (3) square with (2) and (4)? For starters, many, perhaps a majority of the “unmoved masses” are not aware of the Russian information efforts/propaganda. They know that the plan to install stable, prosperous and Western-friendly democracies in Afghanistan, Iran and Libya were a total waste, if not worse. There is no wide agreement why, but the popular conclusion is that this is a fool errand. Second, it is really grim to follow the news, so big majority tunes out, and if asked point blank what they think about them, they answer “What is Aleppo?”. And those that do follow a bit, can’t help but notice that the media narrative is like a nicely attired scarecrow: as the straw protrudes at all sides, it is impossible to miss the holes. Next, some people who follow the news also remember news from the past. Like, American-led coalition liberating Fallujah and destroying a large proportion of the buildings in the process. A pretty way of handling fanatics holed down in a city was not discovered yet. Then there are the freedom fighters, who are adorable, but it is a criminal offense to joint tham, or God forbid, return home after fighting with them. And when police misses them, they go on shooting sprees in Western cities etc. Then, the scope of the refugee crisis is strictly connected with the fall of government in Iraq and Libya and a near-fall of the government in Syria.
With all of that, Russian propaganda works well enough if it merely does not annoy people to such a degree that they discount all the points I have mentioned. And it is quite a bit better than that. And in actuality they are better than that,

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 2 2016 1:14 utc | 120

Funny that the US State Department’s main propaganda outfit in Germany, Der Spiegel, would put out an article trying to discredit that interview.
@Piotr Berman #120:
Nice summery. But you forgot to add that a presidential candidate from one of the two main parties argues that the US just destabilizes the Middle East with its interventions. That probably also influences some Americans.

Posted by: Demian | Oct 2 2016 2:22 utc | 122

@ Louis Proyect and Demian
I read the article and noticed that they almost admit the claims are accurate but then set out to cast serious doubts on the interview and by extension the reality of ongoing empire fed military excursions.
Didn’t the American public express quite strongly a few years back that they didn’t want a war with Syria? And here the US is, led by war criminals that are programmed to think future planning is creating ongoing wars to replace growth as the engine of economic momentum.
And the crazy continues……the epitome of human “civilization”.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 2 2016 2:45 utc | 123

– The “Ron Paul Institute for Peace” is a regular reader of “Moon of Alabama” and posted this article as well.
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2016/september/30/syria-the-us-propaganda-shams-now-openly-fail/
I would recommend to visit the “Newsbud” website regularly as well.
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/

Posted by: Willy2 | Oct 2 2016 4:27 utc | 124

Funny that the US State Department’s main propaganda outfit in Germany, Der Spiegel, would put out an article trying to discredit that interview.

Posted by: Demian | Oct 1, 2016 10:22:53 PM | 122

I’ve always been happy to cut Spiegel some slack since they published images of the dry-docked South Korean Navy shiplet Cheonan and thereby helped to blow all the Yankee bullshit about an NK attack clean out of the water – along with the initial SK Navy report that an incompetent crew grounded it.
Not being a mind reader or pollster, it’s hard to know whether the Spiegel article had all of the desired effects on its readers. But with a headline screaming “Momentous Interview Under Fire” one can be pretty certain that everyone who saw the headline read the story.
And in US-occupied Germany, anything articulating Yankee duplicity in a believable way, would be believed. And the article didn’t prove that the interview was too good to be true. It merely established that some people (whom no-one’s ever heard of) have doubts.
So my guess would be that it blew the whistle on the Yankees, again, but ended with a Get Out of Jail Free card. Very Spiegel, imo.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 2 2016 11:58 utc | 125

97;Do you speak with the jawbone of an ass?Methinks so.
If the IRS had something on Trump,you can bet this absolutely corrupt and venal administration would release it.
You definitely have an agenda,so go vote for the serial liar f*ckup pos Hell Bitch already.

Posted by: dahoit | Oct 2 2016 13:38 utc | 126

Here’s a Louisville slugger swung at the so called Libertarian movement.

Posted by: Shadow Nine | Oct 2 2016 22:13 utc | 127

This is news?!?
News would contain a definitive, provable motive for why a cabal of leftists and neo-cons have engaged in serial TREASON in order to destabilize the entire M.E. since (and probably before) the 2011 ousting/killing of M Qadaffi in Libya.

Posted by: BillyB | Oct 3 2016 0:16 utc | 128

re harrylaw | Oct 1, 2016 4:57:05 PM | 113, “Ms Shehwaro should have said… you have enough nuclear capacity to destroy Russia 10 times over, whereas they only have the capability to destroy you once.”
Sorry, that is wrong in a variety of ways. First, both the US and Russia have more than enough nuclear weapons to destroy the other. In reality, only a few hundred strategic thermonuclear weapons on the largest cities of each side would thoroughly destroy each nation (there are only several hundred cities of populations greater than 100,000 in either nation).
Russia has 2600 operational strategic warheads, see http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00963402.2016.1170359
The US has 2070 operational strategic warheads, see http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00963402.2016.1145901
A single Russian 800 kiloton warhead (standard size) will ignite a firestorm over an area of 152 square miles (389 square kilometers) during average weather conditions; no one in the fire zone will survive, see http://thebulletin.org/what-would-happen-if-800-kiloton-nuclear-warhead-detonated-above-midtown-manhattan8023
We used the Russian warhead to illustrate what a nuclear weapon would do . . . of course, the same thing applies to US strategic warheads on targeted cities.
More importantly, the long-term environmental consequences of a nuclear war (fought with strategic nuclear weapons) are ignored by the nuclear weapon states . . . these consequences put continued human existence in doubt. Basically, such a war would likely make agricultural impossible in both the Northern and Southern Hemispheres for at least a decade or longer. See http://icnnd.org/Documents/Starr_Nuclear_Winter_Oct_09.pdf and http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/ToonRobockTurcoPhysicsToday.pdf
In other words, the idea of counting who is “ahead” or “behind” when it comes to nuclear war is meaningless. You cannot treat nuclear weapons in the same regard as you would with conventional weapons. A few hundred weapons will destroy any nation; a few thousand may destroy the human race.
The hubris in Washington has reached a point where it appears such distinctions are beyond the realm of possibility. However, I think it could serve Russia well if Putin were to remind the world what the likely consequence of strategic nuclear war would mean for all the non-target nations.

Posted by: Perimetr | Oct 5 2016 20:02 utc | 129

Let me revise that last sentence. I think we all would be better off if Putin would remind the world what the consequences of a nuclear war would be. No one in the US is talking about it, except maybe Paul Craig Roberts.

Posted by: Perimetr | Oct 5 2016 20:09 utc | 130