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September 20, 2016

Deir Ezzor Attack Enables The "Salafist Principality" As Foreseen In The 2012 DIA Analysis

Two recent attacks against the Syrian Arab Army in east-Syria point to a U.S. plan to eliminate all Syrian government presence east of Palmyra. This would enable the U.S. and its allies to create a "Sunni entity" in east-Syria and west-Iraq which would be a permanent thorn in side of Syria and its allies.

A 2012 analysis by the Defense Intelligence Agency said:

THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A DECLARED OR UNDECLARED SALAFIST PRINCIPALITY IN EASTERN SYRIA (HASAKA AND DER ZOR), AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SUPPORTING POWERS TO THE OPPOSITION WANT, IN ORDER TO ISOLATE THE SYRIAN REGIME ...

Note that the described plan mentions exactly two cities - Hasakah and Deir Ezzor.


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On August 18 Kurdish YPK units suddenly attacked Syrian government positions in the center of Hasakah in the north-east of Syria. Before this incident the relations between the two entities had been decent despite some earlier, small clashes. The attacking Kurds were under advice from U.S. special operators. When the Syrian air force intervened the U.S. threatened to down its planes. The Syrian forces had to eventually retreat from populated areas in Hasakah and are now confined to an airport next to the city. They are cut of from supplies and will eventually have to give up.

(For the Kurds these attacks proved to be a political catastrophe. Not only did they lose all support from the Syrian government and Russian side, but Turkey used these clashes to justify its invasion into Syria. This ended the Kurdish national dream of a continues area from Iraq to the Mediterranean.)

On Saturday U.S. airplanes attacked the most important Syrian government position in Deir Ezzor. Nearly a hundred Syrian soldiers were killed and most of the heavy equipment the Deir Ezzor garrison had left was destroyed. Immediately after the attack fighters of the Islamic State occupied the bombed out government positions. These Islamic States fighters now own the heights above the Deir Ezzor airport. A day later the Islamic State shot down a Syrian government plane near Deir Ezzor.

The city and its 150,000+ inhabitants are surrounded by the Islamic State. They had been supplied from Damascus by nightly flights to the airport. As the Islamic State now has fire-control over the airport as well as anti-air weapons those supply flights are no longer possible. The U.S. air attack practically closed down the Syrian government ability to supply the city. If this situation continues the city will fall to the Islamic State.

The U.S. plan is to eventually take Raqqa by using Turkish or Kurdish proxies. It also plans to let the Iraqi army retake Mosul in Iraq. The only major city in Islamic State territory left between those two is Deir Ezzor. Should IS be able to take it away from the isolated Syrian army garrison it has at least a decent base to survive. (Conveniently there are also rich oil wells nearby.) No one, but the hampered Syrian state, would have an immediate interest to remove it from there.

North of that entity would be a Kurdish area with no ambition to expand south. North-west of the Deir Ezzor entity would be the friendly Turkish controlled "Safe Zone" that Erdogan plans to create.

The two recent moves by U.S. forces in east-Syria are consistent with the plan for a "Sunni entity" or "Salafist principality" described in the 2012 DIA document. Such an entity blocks the land connection of the "Shia crescent" which connects Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. This is the "isolation" of Syria foreseen in the DIA analysis. A "Sunni entity" in east-Syria also provides a path for the gas pipeline from Qatar via Turkey to Europe. The Syrian government had rejected the construction of such a line which goes against the fundamental interests of its ally Russia.

At first glance this U.S. policy seems to be shortsighted, There is no way the envisioned "Sunni entity" would ever become stable. Instead it would continue to be a source of terrorism which would hit far beyond the borders of Syria and the surrounding states. But it is exactly the instability of this construct that will allow for further U.S. presence in the area.  A source of insecurity that can be activated, or shut down, whenever convenient.

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@ Jack Smith - 98

Theres a writer called Vanessa Beely who documents the duplicity
of White Helmets - and other NGOs
http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/10/28/part-ii-syrias-white-helmets-war-by-way-of-deception-moderate-executioners/

Particularly gruelling is a clip of the White Helmets assisting in summary execution
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fd8_1430900709

Kind of negates all the PR footage of heroic bare chested men
carrying helpless children to safety, don't you think??.

I've passed it on to CodePink

Kudos :-)

Posted by: DavidKNZ | Sep 21 2016 6:10 utc | 101

@ Jack Smith - 98

For those that had the fortitude to watch the LiveLeak video
of the Nobel Prize nominated white helmets in humanitarian action,
the footage was immediately removed from their site.
However, SCD have acknowledged that it was THEIR White Helmets

https://twitter.com/SyriaCivilDef/status/595696880190889984
https://twitter.com/SyriaCivilDef/status/595923472968192000

Maybe Obama will soon get appropriate company??

Posted by: DavidKNZ | Sep 21 2016 6:30 utc | 102

Terrorists aka "rebels" seem to be very weak now. So Kerry calls for a ceasefire and Israel and the US are trying to help them through direct involvement in battles. Obama is the first Nobel Peace Prize Winner who supports terrorism. He is also directly responsible for the wars in Libya and Syria. Keep it up Obama..

Posted by: hmmm | Sep 21 2016 7:04 utc | 103

@102 hmmm, 'Obama is the first Nobel Peace Prize Winner who supports terrorism'

The first of many? If the White Helmets are raised to NPPL status, surely.

Barack Obama, 1st Nobel Peace Prize Laureate to support terrorism.

The beginning of a whole new era of duplicity.

Maybe the Norwegians can hand off these spoiled goods to ... the Saudis? the Israelis? the US itself?

Wash the blood from their hands.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 21 2016 7:32 utc | 104

@15, 16
It is not really surprising if you look at the links for the Syria "basics" pages - they link to BBC.
Some people might be well intention, but are utterly clueless when it comes to the reality in the world.
They keep parroting the same MSM view because that is what they read all the time.

Posted by: CitizenKane123 | Sep 21 2016 7:32 utc | 105

@95 pw, 'Hell, I can't even do that [throw off the yoke of oppressive tyrants and criminals] here in the U.S. - what chance do they [the Iraqis] have? '

The Cubans did it. And the US has beat them for 50 years for it. The Nobel Peace Prize Laureate just sentenced them to Yet Another Year of Blockade and Sanctions - now 'normalized'! Still they rise. Maybe your choice of exemplary resistors of oppressive tyrants and criminals - us USians - wasn't the most apt.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 21 2016 7:47 utc | 106

Obama is the first Nobel Peace Prize Winner who supports terrorism.

No. The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke. Henry Kissinger got it, too.

Posted by: somebody | Sep 21 2016 8:05 utc | 107


@jfl | Sep 21, 2016 3:32:37 AM | 103

"Maybe the Norwegians can hand off these spoiled goods to ..."

Excuse me and NOT direct to you FUCK Norwegian Nobel Committee and FUCK all recipients

The world would be better off without the last recipient!!

Millions refugees, deaths and....... (anyone care to continue).......

Posted by: Jack Smith | Sep 21 2016 8:22 utc | 108

French msm only kept that the truce was ended by aid convoy bombing, no trace of the us so called mistake (which on monday was conveniently rephrased into north korea style "maybe not soldiers but prisoners forced to fight with the regular army")

Gruesome.

Posted by: Mina | Sep 21 2016 8:32 utc | 109

@DavidKNZ | Sep 21, 2016 2:30:09 AM | 101

PS beware Liveleak, you dunno who is a fake. Used to love Liveleaks. I'll put my money on Vanessa Beely of 21Century Wire and b of MoA.

http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/06/21/who-are-the-syria-white-helmets/

If you are retired, dunno what to do with your free time - listen to Alternate Current Radio

https://www.spreaker.com/user/acrnetwork

Posted by: Jack Smith | Sep 21 2016 8:45 utc | 110

Julian@83 If one of the most important reasons Russia is in Syria is to stop a Qatari pipeline to Europe. Presumably because of the stiff competition from the largest known gas field in the world [South Pars/North Dome, the worlds richest natural gas repository] which the Qataris share with the Iranians. Assad has refused the Qatar request. To the delight no doubt of the Russians. How do the Russians feel about the 'Islamic pipe line' through Syria, the Iranian line from their portion of that field?

Posted by: harrylaw | Sep 21 2016 10:06 utc | 111

@83, Julian

One of the most important reasons Russia is in Syria is to stop a Qatari pipeline to Europe.

The key here is "one of" and, I would dare to say, not the most important. Especially when one considers Russia's latest economic dynamics and strategic shift towards Asia. Enormous investment into new shipbuilding yard in Bolshoy Kamen (Russian Far East) specifically for construction of large LNG vessels kind of gives a hint. Three major reasons for Russia being in Syria are:

1. Support Russia's long time ally, including for humanitarian reasons;
2. Preserve Russia's reach into Med by means of expanding PMTO in Tartus and now having a permanent base in Kkmeimim. Russia IS in a process of restoring the 5th Operational Squadron on the base of Black Sea Fleet;
3. Real national security considerations of "fighting Islamic terrorism over there, rather than over here".

The rest is merely a side effect.

Posted by: SmoothieX12 | Sep 21 2016 12:49 utc | 112

Russian forces saying out loud (according to Leith Fadel) that they used cruise missiles to target Turks, Saudis and Americans in Aleppo.

Posted by: Arren | Sep 21 2016 13:00 utc | 113

@112, Arren

I doubt it very much.

Posted by: SmoothieX12 | Sep 21 2016 13:38 utc | 114

Deliberate incompetence as only the Americans can deliver.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

US official wasn't there to answer Russian call on Syria strike

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/296830-us-official-not-there-to-take-russian-call-on-syria-strike

Posted by: woogs | Sep 21 2016 13:42 utc | 115

Unlike some earlier commentspersons, I do think the attack on the UN convoy deflects attention from the destruction of Syrian troops by aerial bombardment. It got my attention. I at once remembered the obliteration of UN presence early in the invasion of Iraq. On reflection, to me the orchestration of this act signified a strong message being sent to the UN, not by Russia, which is doing its best to strengthen the role the UN plays in these conflicts, but by others.

I want to thank Dean, both for his cricket reference and for the following:

“The examination of the video footage made via drones of the movement of the humanitarian convoy in areas controlled by militants in the province of Aleppo has revealed new details. The video clearly shows how terrorists are redeploying a pickup with a large-caliber mortar on it using the convoy as a cover,” Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said.

He said that “it is unclear yet who accompanies whom: the [pickup with a] mortar accompanies the convoy with “White Helmets” volunteers or vice versa.

Posted by: Dean | Sep 20, 2016 4:45:55 PM | 46

At the #46 post is a link to report of the Major General's statement. Earlier I saw at RT that the Russians had observer drones accompanying the transport until it came into rebel territory. They had issued a careful denial of complicity which left open the possibility of Syrian air involvement. For that reason the above statement carries more weight with me - they don't say stuff unless facts have been gathered. And I am wondering whether that mortar deployment functioned as bait, a deliberate carrot on a stick to accomplish the final disruption of a cease fire the Syrian people themselves would desperately wish to succeed.

It's right out of the old, tattered and bloodied playbook.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 21 2016 14:13 utc | 116

Watch NOW RT UN Security Council meeting
Lying Kerry speaking. (Pacific Time 7:15am time)

https://www.rt.com/on-air/

Posted by: Jack Smith | Sep 21 2016 14:25 utc | 117

Kerry just implicitly referred to a no-fly zone in Syria.

Posted by: spudski | Sep 21 2016 14:35 utc | 118

I know it's a huge risk; but, Russia is the one who should declare a no fly zone. They have the S-400's in place already.
The U.S. is just insane on this and should be called out...
Somebody has to be the one to stop this insanity and Russia is in the best position, IMO.

Posted by: V. Arnold | Sep 21 2016 14:48 utc | 119

Jack Smith @107

"Excuse me and NOT direct to you FUCK Norwegian Nobel Committee and FUCK all recipients"

"Alfred Bernhard Nobel (/noʊˈbɛl/; Swedish: [ˈalfrɛd nʊˈbɛl] About this sound listen (help·info); 21 October 1833 – 10 December 1896) was a Swedish chemist, engineer, innovator, and armaments manufacturer.

Known for inventing dynamite, Nobel also owned Bofors, which he had redirected from its previous role as primarily an iron and steel producer to a major manufacturer of cannon and other armaments. Nobel held 355 different patents, dynamite being the most famous. After reading a premature obituary which condemned him for profiting from the sales of arms, he bequeathed his fortune to institute the Nobel Prizes.[1][2] The synthetic element nobelium was named after him.[3] His name also survives in modern-day companies such as Dynamit Nobel and AkzoNobel, which are descendants of mergers with companies Nobel himself established."

The people who make the sh*t that goes boom are manufacturing products used to kill millions of humans. They wash their hands clean of their evil by dressing to the nines and awarding people who in their eyes have achieved immense sales of their products or have discovered new methods that contribute directly or indirectly to eradicating brown and black people and other complexions that are other than lily white. Henry Kissinger and Obama come to mind. The antithesis of Peace. The spectre of death and destruction. Darkness. Evil.

Just my opinion

Posted by: ALberto | Sep 21 2016 14:49 utc | 120

Re: Posted by: harrylaw | Sep 21, 2016 6:06:37 AM | 110

That is indeed a very good question with regards to the Iranian pipeline. However, Assad, the Russian ally, the Iranian ally, assented to this pipeline, so one has to believe there is some sort of understanding there.

It is well accepted on who's bread the Qataris do their buttering, and it ain't Iranian, and it ain't Russian.

In other words, I'd put a lot more faith that the Russians could arrive at a truly mutually beneficial agreement than the Russians & Qataris/Saudis (who are anyway obscenely wealthy proxies for you know who).

Posted by: Jules | Sep 21 2016 14:54 utc | 121

RT article on the convoy: Russia presented all evidence on aid convoy attack, now wants impartial investigation – Lavrov.

Article ends with this horrifying update based on the speech Kerry just gave:

The US secretary of state put the blame for violations of the ceasefire on Syrian President Bashar Assad, calling him a “spoiler.” Kerry added that in his view, Assad “does not believe in ceasefire.”

Kerry also urged that Syrian government forces should be banned from flying over territories held by the opposition forces.

The US secretary of state said that the plan he and Lavrov had agreed in Geneva “is far from perfect,” but that as of yet there are no alternatives to it.

Posted by: lysias | Sep 21 2016 14:56 utc | 122

Does "the opposition forces" include ISIS?

Posted by: lysias | Sep 21 2016 14:57 utc | 123

george clooney intervenes states he is destroyed about these recent events and has stated support for all parties concerned.
his hopes and prayers to moloch go out to bradd pitts and satanist ex boy man angelina jolly united nations child catcher and wrangler.
amal a man clooney for real is seeking financial compensation from isis for his her innocent jewish clients who have suffered the tortures of the damned.

amal a man clooney also states that although assad was in london repairing eyeballs and teeth during the talmudick event called 9 and 11 he some how was invovlved, if not the mastermind then at the bare minimum supplying false teeth and devilish brown black contact lens for sim
mohhammed atta.
be assured rockefella skank agent gorge cloney and amal a man clooney are here to help.
failing that matt demon and ben asswipe are standing by for syriana 2 the revenge of argo

Posted by: cdrake | Sep 21 2016 14:59 utc | 124

@123 Not for me to comment on Divorce of the Year but I've always though Brad might be a little timid in the tatt department. Angela really went for it in Cambodia and hers were done by an authentic buddhist.

Posted by: dh | Sep 21 2016 15:15 utc | 125

@116

Hope people understand the difference between what is said in front of cameras and what is actually agreed on behind close doors.

For the viewers at home, Kerry is merely reading from the same old regurgitated script he's been given:

1. Point the finger at Assad for everything wrong happening in Syria. This is done by repeatedly hammering in the words 'barrel bombing his own people' (as if dropping regular bombs would give you a moral leg to stand on), 'gassing his own people' (when there's no conclusive evidence to such allegations) or 'bombing hospitals' (again: no conclusive evidence... unlike the time the US bombed a MAF hospital in Afghanistan) into the psyche of the viewer.

2. Never acknowledge to their own, or that of their 'friendly' jihadists', atrocities or violations. Lavrov clearly made it clear during his speech in the SC meeting that the Syrians were abiding by the terms of the ceasefire, in order to bring relief to the residents of east Aleppo, and the rebels never reciprocated the gesture. Kerry cannot admit to as much in public because that changes opinion on how to best deal with the situation (which would spell doom to any rebel group on the ground).

No real developments have ever come out of a live broadcast. There's really no point in reading too much into this.

Posted by: never mind | Sep 21 2016 15:16 utc | 126

What kind of proof is the U.S. offering that the convoy was attacked by Russian planes? Can a ground attack by artillery or the like be ruled out? Can an aerial attack by another power like Israel be ruled out?

Posted by: lysias | Sep 21 2016 15:19 utc | 127

TYPO

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Posted by: Ronald | Sep 21 2016 15:22 utc | 128

Russia has just kicked it up a notch

WARNING : Russia Issues New "Rules of Engagement" in Syria: Any Aircraft Threatening the Syrian Army WILL BE SHOT DOWN (US/Turkey/Israel in the cross-hairs!) After the United States …

http://www.mydailyinformer.com/warning-russia-issues-new-rules-of-engagement-in-syria-any-aircraft-threatening-the-syrian-army-will-be-shot-down-usturkeyisrael-in-the-cross-hairs/

Posted by: ALberto | Sep 21 2016 15:25 utc | 129

Wonder what the 'she-men' in the Pentagramagon who make the decisions think about this?

"The Russian warships fired three Caliber missiles at the foreign officers' coordination operations room in Dar Ezza region in the Western part of Aleppo near Sam'an mountain, killing 30 Israeli and western officers," the Arabic-language service of the Russian Sputnik news agency quoted battlefield source in Aleppo as saying on Wednesday."

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950631000607

Posted by: ALberto | Sep 21 2016 15:29 utc | 130

@128. Very bad news. Both sides are daring the other in a game of chicken. We could be on the brink of a nuclear war.

Shades of 1914.

Posted by: lysias | Sep 21 2016 15:30 utc | 131

@129. Israeli and Western officers in the western part of Aleppo? Isn't the western part the part held by Assad's forces?

Posted by: lysias | Sep 21 2016 15:31 utc | 132

lysias @131 ALeppo is also a province.

Maybe the US really should have separated the healthy from the takfiris. My guess is the Russians thought they were targetting extremist takfiris and hit these people by 'mistake'.

"30 Israeli, Foreign Intelligence officers, killed in Russia’s Caliber missile attack in Aleppo, several U.S., Turkish, Saudi, Qatari, British officers were also neutralized"

They were directing operations of the takfiris in Aleppo and Idlib

https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2016/09/21/30-israeli-killed-in-al...

Posted by: Yonatan | Sep 21 2016 15:37 utc | 133

fredjc 21. NBC still uses "dusty boy" pic weeks later.

Posted by: Curtis | Sep 21 2016 15:37 utc | 134

Re: Posted by: ALberto | Sep 21, 2016 11:29:33 AM | 129

"The Russian warships fired three Caliber missiles at the foreign officers' coordination operations room in Dar Ezza region in the Western part of Aleppo near Sam'an mountain, killing 30 Israeli and western officers," the Arabic-language service of the Russian Sputnik news agency quoted battlefield source in Aleppo as saying on Wednesday."

If this really just happened, the only question that is worth asking is why didn't it happen before? Why the wait?

This kind of thing was an obvious move from the start. If scores of Special Ops forces who aren't supposed to be in Syria are turning up dead it kinda acts like a strong deterrent for continuing that policy.

Posted by: Jules | Sep 21 2016 15:46 utc | 135

@spudski | Sep 21, 2016 10:35:11 AM | 117

Kerry just implicitly referred to a no-fly zone in Syria.

Did you watch complete RT live stream, Sergey Lavrov and Kerry speeches? Kerry turned the table on Sergey Lavrov in a convincing speech. He mentioned "witness on the ground" meaning White Helmets witnessed it.

From Libya's and Iraq playbook. Dr. Assad is finished may end up like Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein, no fly zone imposes on Syria's warplanes, fucking US and the coalition will bomb the hell out of SSA, Hezbollah and Irian troops.

Obomo Nobel Laureate Peace Prize Winner in 2009 ends his 2-terms in office with another regime change with Headchoppers finishing Syria.... endless wars and refugees continue.

https://www.rt.com/news/360146-lavrov-unsc-syria-aid-convoy/

Sorrie, Eng is not my mother tongue. :-)

Posted by: Jack Smith | Sep 21 2016 15:47 utc | 136

US coalition Predator drone spotted at time & place of aid convoy attack – Russian military

https://www.rt.com/news/360165-us-drone-syria-russia/

Posted by: Jack Smith | Sep 21 2016 15:49 utc | 137

@110

Precisely.
Either pipelines are not in Russia's interest.
Assad must stay and also the Iranians cannot be given an environment to build theirs.

Hence there will be no significant Chinese role in Syria. The Chinese general's talk about training and equipment was just a way to show Russia was not alone because of local Russian gripes about China not give sufficient visible support especially the faux pas of that letter in a major Beijing newspaper complaining about Russia's lack of support for China in the South China Sea. Whatever it is, China will not go and mess up on Russian interests in Syria.

Every action Russia has taken with regards to Syria can be understood without contradictions from this perspective.

Stalemate is the Russian aim.

This bears repeating since so many think Russia/Putin is a hero. While they are villians, hero they are not. But so many are looking for one, think there is one or expect Russia to be one as one can see from the dozens of postings on this site.

Posted by: ThatDamnGood | Sep 21 2016 15:53 utc | 138

@135. If you think White Helmets are credible, you must not have been reading this site very long.

Posted by: lysias | Sep 21 2016 15:56 utc | 139

@124

There would be a strong case to be made that the use of various 'sorcery' by Theravadin Thai/Khmer/Burmese Buddhists are not authentic Buddhism.

Posted by: ThatDamnGood | Sep 21 2016 15:57 utc | 140

@137

Correction, while they are NOT villians...

Posted by: ThatDamnGood | Sep 21 2016 15:58 utc | 141

@129, Alberto.

"The Russian warships fired three Caliber missiles at the foreign officers' coordination operations room in Dar Ezza region in the Western part of Aleppo near Sam'an mountain, killing 30 Israeli and western officers,"

Those same Kalibr missiles also killed 2,000 takfiris, 10,000 aliens from planet Zoltar and a herd of peaceful cows. Two accordion factories were also destroyed.

Posted by: SmoothieX12 | Sep 21 2016 16:01 utc | 142

@139 Please take the matter up with Ms. Jolie. She thinks she got the real thing.

Posted by: dh | Sep 21 2016 16:02 utc | 143

False flag attack? Another rogue operation by the U.S. military?

RT: US coalition Predator drone spotted at time & place of Syria aid convoy attack – Russian military:

The Russian Defense Ministry says that a US coalition drone was in the vicinity of a humanitarian convoy when it was attacked outside Aleppo. According to the Russian military, the unmanned aircraft was a Predator drone.


“On the evening of September 19, in that specific region, a drone belonging to the international condition, which had taken off from the Incirlik air base in Turkey, was flying at a height of 3,600 meters and traveling at around 200 kilometers per hour,” said Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov.

“The object was in the area around the town of Urm Al-Kubra, where the convoy was a few minutes before it caught fire,” Konashenkov added. “It left after about 30 minutes.”

Posted by: lysias | Sep 21 2016 16:07 utc | 144

@lysias | Sep 21, 2016 11:56:37 AM | 138

If you think White Helmets are credible, you must not have been reading this site very long.

"Did you watch complete RT live stream, Sergey Lavrov and Kerry speeches? Kerry turned the table on Sergey Lavrov in a convincing speech. He mentioned "witness on the ground" meaning [headchoppers] White Helmets witnessed it. "

Maybe you misunderstood me. "White Helmets" are NOT credible, they are the headchoppers. Kerry lied to everyone watching the Livestream.

A MoAer since 2014, followed closely Ukraine and Syria debacles since 2013.

Posted by: Jack Smith | Sep 21 2016 16:18 utc | 145

@121 lysias... quote "Kerry also urged that Syrian government forces should be banned from flying over territories held by the opposition forces." no... kerry needs to urge the fucking neo con retards - himself included - to stop arming the 'moderate' terrorists in syria... he wouldn't allow this in his own country.. why the fuck does he allow it in syria and everywhere else on the planet the ugly exceptional nation goes? being a salesman for the arms industry suits him, but beside that.. no to his lies.. his opposition forces bullshite does include isis.. he's a complete liar and con.

@126 lysias... the western msm doesn't need any proof.. they have been given the memo to tar and feather russia on all things syrian... you and everyone got and will keep getting the memo.. it isn't about proof.. it is about making a lie sound like the truth...

@132 yonantan.. thanks.. that sounds about right..

Posted by: james | Sep 21 2016 16:21 utc | 146

A little OT:
UNGA Summit has calls for more refugees

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2016/09/21/Death-toll-in-Egypt-migrant-boat-capsize-rises-to-at-least-29.html

A summit hosted by US President Barack Obama garnered pledges from dozens of countries to resettle or allow the lawful admission of some 360,000 refugees, doubling the number of slots that were available last year, the US envoy to the United Nations said.

But Ambassador Samantha Power said that was “still only a fraction” of what was needed because the UN refugee agency, UNHCR, has assessed that some 1.2 million refugees need to be resettled.

Countries could only attend Obama’s summit at the annual UN gathering of world leaders if they made a pledge.

Posted by: bbbb | Sep 21 2016 16:29 utc | 147

ISIS Headchoppers morph into "White Helmets" - alludes to cowboy John Wayne with white hat. Or a fireman's helmet - like the firemen heroes of 9 elva. Billion dollar CIA Ad Campaign psy-op. It's quite brilliant. Tony Orlando and the CIA White Helmets.

Along the same psy-op vein, I'd never looked into the history of bomb-maker Alfred Nobel. Makes sense now, creeps like Oilbomber and Killer Kissinger should receive a Nobel "Peace" Prize. It's not really a peace award. It's a biggest bomber award! Elites are always making jokes - laughing at us common slobs.

Posted by: fastfreddy | Sep 21 2016 16:36 utc | 148

@fastfreddy | Sep 21, 2016 12:36:19 PM | 147

laughing at us common slobs.

Well said! How about "dumb stupid idiots"?

Posted by: Jack Smith | Sep 21 2016 16:56 utc | 149

@128, Alberto.

Zakharova didn't say anything of likes as described in your link--that is something to the effect that "that will be the end of it". There are no new ROE "issued" since it is not done this way. All those platitudes, conjectures, exaggerations and plain simple lies from all those supposedly "informed" sources ("news" agencies, blogs, what have you) are 90% a truck load of BS, which assigns to all sides capabilities they don't have (or otherwise) and intentions they never had. The information war is just that--a war, and as in any war there will always be scavengers who would use any opportunity to collect numbers of views and references by delivering to people what they want to hear (read). The actual number of competent, logical and informed blogs (such as MOA) and news services who are reputable is actually minuscule. The rest--is garbage from any military, geopolitical, economic and other points of view and do not provide any value.

Posted by: SmoothieX12 | Sep 21 2016 17:11 utc | 150

@DavidKNZ 100
I have also passed links on to CodePink as I believe Medea Benjamin to be one of the bravest of Americans.

Posted by: Storm'n Norman | Sep 21 2016 17:12 utc | 151

A summit hosted by US President Barack Obama garnered pledges from dozens of countries to resettle or allow the lawful admission of some 360,000 refugees, doubling the number of slots that were available last year, the US envoy to the United Nations said.

But Ambassador Samantha Power said that was “still only a fraction” of what was needed

this is crazy it would seem many countries still do not know how to be multicultral.
only through this wonderful transformation can europe and the world survive.

shirley it is time for a biblical people transport from the oded yinon lands into europe.
how the moloch hell can israel be mighty how can they kibbutz the syriana with so many millions foreign people squattings.

obarmy and glorious goddess ex man sam powers has just the strategy of tension to full fill the next balfour mandate for greater israhole

Posted by: cdrake | Sep 21 2016 18:13 utc | 152

@135, Possibly the Kalibr launch (if real) is a tit for tat answer to the 7 killed Russian troops during the US attack on Deir Ezzor?

Posted by: Lozion | Sep 21 2016 19:14 utc | 153

(Alleged) 7 killed soldiers..

Posted by: Lozion | Sep 21 2016 20:01 utc | 154

Thnx for the links to the Assad interviews (transcript and video). It was a surprised to see one at ABC. But it won't get much further than that. When a foreign leader talks with common sense and criticizes the US/EU/Israel agenda, they're usually ignored or ridiculed. But the AP interviewer certainly pushed the agenda. I felt like I needed a shower afterward. At least Assad did well to counter the BS.

Posted by: Curtis | Sep 22 2016 17:22 utc | 155

#138 Stalemate is Russian Aim

BS.

Iskandars deployed under 2 minutes flight time away ready to EMP Medinat Yisrael and soften it up for the main MIRV blows on zero seconds notice is THE immediate objective.

The end objective is to convert Yisrael to an EASTERN power, and from then on to destroy America and UK from within, g*d willing.

Returning Golan to Syria would be a real nice to have, but it might take time.

Natural Gas is peanuts compared to Oil, and for Oil one needs no pipelines.

Even EU is a red herring. Europe is dying due to old age, lack of libido and rampant gayness, soon to be replaced with peniless Middle Eastern illiterate hordes.

The real gas markets are India and China. For those, control of Syria is utterly meaningless.

The entire pipeline thing is a red herring imo.

Posted by: Quadriad | Sep 22 2016 23:33 utc | 156

Pepe Escobar stole the piece above and published it, lightly rewritten, on RT English:

The US road map to balkanize Syria

He mentioned and linked his source - this blog:

No one will ever see these connections established by US corporate media – as in, for instance, the neocon cabal ruling the Washington Post’s editorial pages. But the best of the blogosphere does not disappoint.

Okay. So MOA is the "best of the blogosphere". Nice. Unfortunately the label doesn't pay bills.

Posted by: b | Sep 24 2016 5:56 utc | 157

b,
i am surprised rt doesn't approach you directly.. maybe they are getting a discount deal with pepe who recycles your clarity and insights.. regardless - folks are sending you help with your fundraiser.. mine is going in the mail monday.. i went to the bank today, but they had to order euros in for monday.. i live in the poor part of town ,lol... be patient.. all things come in good time.

Posted by: james | Sep 24 2016 6:11 utc | 158

b - the upside is pepe is driving more visitors to your site.. hopefully they will offer some financial assistance as well..

Posted by: james | Sep 24 2016 6:37 utc | 159

i see Alex Christoforou at the duran is doing the same thing - driving people to moa..

Posted by: james | Sep 25 2016 2:03 utc | 160

While this attack on the SAA definitely let the truth come into the light this military action is not as existential as the on going battle to retake Aleppo, or the NATO invasion of northern Syria, setting up NATO's long sought after safe-no fly zone, possibly backed by Article 5 of the NATO treaty. Now with the truth out in the open it will be very difficult to shunt it back into the shadows and the two adversaries NATO and the Resistance Bloc will have to deal with it as a cold hard fact, or again fool themselves that it is otherwise as previously with the disastrous results we have seen for the Syrian national interest. This NATO occupied 'zone'. a la the Golan Heights, along with the the NATO backed Kurdish 'zones' are the future partitioning of Syria give or take the setting of new boundaries. It is my belief that the 'rapprochement' between Erdogan and Russia was used as a ruse de guerre, forestalling action to be taken in a timely matter as NATO invaded. Now NATO has a forward base from which to operate in Syria, perhaps to be expanded upon under a pretense of fighting IS if the truth is shunted aside, or simply to prolong this war as much as necessary tying down the Blocs forces while these territorial gains are consolidated and become immutable facts on the ground. Russia et al will now either have to stand up to NATO or face a de facto defeat with the de facto partitioning of Syria. All that remains for NATO to do is make this a fact of some permanency and then begin selecting and conspiring with those that would be 'pragmatic' and desire to work with NATO as NATO's new puppet rulers of the various enclaves, finally tearing the Syrian national fabric to shreds. It seems time to either put up or go home in eventuality. This must be done on the international stage by declaring the Turkish invasion completely unacceptable and withdrawal mandatory as the only solution to end the insurgency under the truth that all the terrorists act in each others interests, cannot be separated and will have to be destroyed militarily as facts on the ground insist. It would have been better to nip the invasion in the bud but hind sight is always 20-20.

Posted by: BRF | Sep 25 2016 14:25 utc | 161

@161 BRF

I feel sure that Russia has 'caught up' with your thinking here. I also think that Russia's broad strategy is breaking up NATO and that a good bit of the 'mistakes' Russian has made in Syria - and Ukraine - are in service to that end. We'll have to see how well that turns out in the end. Reducing NATO to the US and Turkey, possibly with the UK included, would very effectively reduce Russia's exposure to all of its threats.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 25 2016 15:02 utc | 162

BRF @161:

It is my belief that the 'rapprochement' between Erdogan and Russia was used as a ruse de guerre ...
I have the same suspicions. If so, it was a brillant ply that played on Putin's hopes for a split in NATO. I think we will soon know the truth of the Turkish coup-attempt.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 25 2016 16:50 utc | 163

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