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September 24, 2016

Corbyn Wins In Stunning Defeat Of Blairite Establishment

In a stupendous defeat of establishment and pseudo-left media like The Guardian, as well as Blairite interventionists, Jeremy Corbyn again won the Labour leadership elections.

Corbyn received more votes than the last time he was elected.

A massive campaign against Corbyn had been driven by nearly all British media and nearly all established Labour MP's. It prevented Labour attacks on the Tories when those were in deep trouble over the Brexit vote. Those MPS must shut up - or leave.

It is now up to Corbyn to develop a new political Labour platform that offers a real alternative to the destructive rerun of Thatcher policies by Prime Minister Theresa May. It could be the start of a dawn of the left in all of Europe.

Congratulations to him and good luck!

Posted by b on September 24, 2016 at 12:10 UTC | Permalink


My congratulations to Jeremy Corbyn for defying the pro-Blair PLP lined up against him and prevailing over the garbage they and the British mainstream media threw at him.

Now the only decent thing left for the PLP to do is to leave British Labour and establish their own party (with Tony Blair as their messiah) or join the Conservatives.

If Corbyn were to offer reconciliation to the PLP along with a new political platform, that would be a real act of leadership that would put the PLP into an even worse quandary: if they accept reconciliation and stay in British Labour, they would be selling out on their own principles (and the rest of British Labour would always distrust them) and if they leave, they would be seen as spoilsports.

Posted by: Jen | Sep 24 2016 12:53 utc | 1

Well that was a political battle of an existential kind for the true left in Britain. Let us all hope Corbyn doesn't squander the political capital he has been handed by taking such poorly advised positions as he did supporting the 'Remain" side in the referendum. The Resistance needs every last bit of effort it can muster, from whatever quarter. Now if only the Labour Party will embrace the sound ideas being put forward by the 'Positive Money' folks in Britain.

Posted by: BRF | Sep 24 2016 13:10 utc | 2

Good luck to him indeed! I am a Londoner and it's been a heady couple of months. First was 'Brexit' where I voted 'Leave'....then cast my vote for Corbyn despite the PLP and their insidious attempts to disenfranchise voters ...if/when Trump wins in November my year is pretty much done and the fun and games cab really begin lol.

Now I just need Russia to do something decisive about the treachery in Syria and do the same with the Kiev government and it's all good as the kids say.

Just waiting to get my finances sorted in the next couple of weeks and trust, I will definitely be making a contribution to the survival of your website and the outstanding job you do.

Stay safe.

Posted by: Skeletor | Sep 24 2016 13:14 utc | 3

"It could be the start of a dawn of the left in all of Europe."
No, it couldn't. The european left would have to turn away from any kind of globalism and again take care about the workers. The same workers they so willingly casted aside...
Instead they will continue to but all their effort to appeal to some green yuppies, "Do-Gooders" who fully embrace imperialism (as long as you justify it with a "humanitarian cause").

Posted by: Mick | Sep 24 2016 13:24 utc | 4

Jeremy Corbyn was re-elected leader of Britain's opposition Labour Party on Saturday, ending a "coup" attempt by more moderate lawmakers who say his left-wing agenda can never deliver victory at the polls.

The veteran campaigner's triumph, by 313,209 to 193,229 votes, cements his authority over the divided party and will fuel his drive to turn Labour further left - a move many of his colleagues say will see them out of power and allow the ruling Conservatives free rein to set Britain's divorce from the EU.

Welcoming the result, which hands him more votes than when he first won the leadership last year, Corbyn called on lawmakers and members at the party's annual conference in the northwestern city of Liverpool to come together to fight the Conservatives and bring "real change" to Britain

Posted by: okie farmer | Sep 24 2016 13:39 utc | 5

© Karam Al-Masri/AFP/Getty Images Destruction after an airstrike in the rebel-held Ansari district in Aleppo, Syria, on Friday. “It is a horrific situation,” said Ammar al-Selmo, head of the city’s branch of the White Helmets civil defense group.

BEIRUT — Syrian and Russian warplanes launched a ferocious assault against rebel-held Aleppo on Friday, burying any hopes that a U.S.-backed cease-fire could be salvaged and calling into question whether the deal would ever have worked.

Waves upon waves of planes relentlessly struck neighborhoods in the rebel-held east of the city on the first day of a new offensive announced by the government. Residents described the most intense airstrikes they had yet witnessed in a five-year-old war that has already claimed in excess of 300,000 lives.

By nightfall, more than 100 bombs had landed, and more than 80 people were dead, said Ammar al-Selmo, head of the Aleppo branch of the White Helmets civil defense group.

Rescuers don’t have the capacity to reach all the places that were hit because there are too many, he said. Three White Helmets bases were among the locations targeted, and two were destroyed, along with their equipment and fuel supplies, further diminishing the group’s ability to respond.

“It is a horrific situation now in Aleppo,” Selmo said. “There are dead people in the streets, and fires are burning without control.

“People don’t know what to do or where to go. There is no escape. It is like the end of the world.”

If there had been any doubt before that the cease-fire deal co-sponsored with Russia is dead, at least for the foreseeable future, the violence Friday put it to rest. A meeting in New York between Secretary of State John F. Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov ended swiftly, without statements or discernible progress toward Kerry’s stated goal of reviving last week’s cease-fire.

Instead, the launch of the offensive called into question the entire premise of the agreement painstakingly negotiated by Kerry and Lavrov over the past eight months: that Russia shares the Obama administration’s view that there is no military solution to the conflict. On that basis, U.S. officials have explained, Moscow would be willing to pursue a negotiated settlement in return for a cease-fire and the prestige of eventually conducting joint military operations in Syria alongside the United States against terrorist groups.

At a news conference in New York, Lavrov offered a starkly different point of view. He said it is the United States that needs to come around to the idea that President Bashar al-Assad is the only viable partner in the fight against terrorism, calling his army “the single most efficient force fighting terror in Syria.”

“Little by little, life will make everyone understand that it’s only together that you can fight terrorism,” Lavrov said.

His comments, alongside the events of the past week, suggest that Russia and Syria still believe the war can be won outright, without recourse to negotiations that the United States has said offer the only way out of the Syrian tragedy.

A U.S. strike against a Syrian army position in the east of the country last Saturday exposed the deficit of trust between the two parties to the deal, with the Pentagon insisting it was a mistake but Russia accusing the United States of collaborating with the Islamic State.

But the deal may have been doomed before that, by conflicting interpretations of the war on the ground. Assad has repeatedly expressed his intention to reconquer all of Syria from the rebels he uniformly calls “terrorists,” and he reiterated that determination on the eve of the cease-fire.

Days before the truce took hold, the assortment of Iraqi militias, Hezbollah fighters, government militias and Syrian army troops finally completed the encirclement of rebel-held Aleppo, after months of fighting and hundreds of casualties that included several senior Iranian officers fighting alongside regime forces.

“The Russians were eventually seeing progress in their strategy without any cease-fire. The regime’s military situation was improving. Assad’s position was solidifying. Russia’s strategic goals in the region were being met,” said Jeff White of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. “There was no compelling reason for them to push hard for a cease-fire. The person pushing hard was Kerry, but the Russians were sort of, ‘Meh, we can take it or leave it.’ ”

Iran’s support has proved as instrumental as Russia’s in shoring up Assad’s hold on power, with Iranian-trained and -funded Shiite militias from Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as Lebanon’s Hezbollah, reinforcing the depleted Syrian army on most of the important front lines.

Whether Russia ever would have been able to persuade Assad to comply with the deal is in question, said Robert Ford, who served as U.S. ambassador to Syria during the earliest years of the uprising against Assad and is now with the Washington-based Middle East Institute. It is also far from clear whether the United States would have been able to sell the fractious rebels on a deal that would have required them to separate from extremists, he said.

Posted by: okie farmer | Sep 24 2016 13:46 utc | 6

So, Corbyn is still the "boss"?

Theresa May destroys "unscrupulous boss" Corbyn at her First PMQs

Posted by: From The Hague | Sep 24 2016 13:59 utc | 7

Great news. Things may be moving at last along the global s-bend blockages.

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Posted by: x | Sep 24 2016 14:14 utc | 8

Good to see that the coupsters could not prevail. Will they have the grace to now leave the party? Of course not. They're like the Israelis they so admire, they will bring the whole house down around themselves and everyone else rather than allow others to constructively move forward. Ah, but maybe I'm wrong.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 24 2016 14:19 utc | 9

I have no idea of the significants of this outcome; only time will tell.
I do not understand Britain's politics at all...

Posted by: V. Arnold | Sep 24 2016 14:24 utc | 10


Thanks, that works for me.

Posted by: jo6pac | Sep 24 2016 14:32 utc | 11

awesome news.

Now it's up to Corbyn to establish a truly progressive platform.

Posted by: paul | Sep 24 2016 14:43 utc | 12

PMQ's - Theresa May vs Jeremy Corbyn (14th September 16)

Posted by: okie farmer | Sep 24 2016 14:53 utc | 13

My goodness, such closet toffs here at MoA.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 24 2016 15:23 utc | 14

thanks b... @ jfl... what's a toff?

Posted by: james | Sep 24 2016 15:34 utc | 15

@Mick | Sep 24, 2016 9:24:14 AM | 3

(as long as you justify it with a "humanitarian cause")

Like the White Helmets and Billingcat?

Posted by: Jack Smith | Sep 24 2016 15:40 utc | 16

Good news certainly.

Opposition to the fakelorum “left” (= USA Dems, France Socialists, Blairites and third-wayers, and a lot of ugly scamming hypocrites elsewhere in many places), is becoming more visible and mainstream.

Unknown or forgotten is that in the W world it was the ‘left’ who opened up the banking system to perpetual fraud and bail-outs by the public. Carried out by Mitterand, Socialist, in France (way before the US), and then Bill Clinton as follow-up (he was afraid the US would no longer ‘be competitive’..), Germany I leave out for the mo. See today HRC, her speeches to Goldman Sachs whatever is hidden there…same story. Or in the near past, one ex.: Syriza which was branded by the MSM as radical left but who embraced devastating ‘austerity’ and ‘privatization’ to bail out banks in Europe (Deutsche Bank in first place.)

These so called wars aren’t wars but destructive murderous invasions of defenseless countries (> profits for MIC, contractors, NATO suppliers, the main arms manufacturers, banksters who skim, etc. job program for US underclass, and more), the list is long… from Yugoslavia (Bill C 1991) to Lybia (HRC, Obama, Sarkozy, Cameron on the same page) and today Syria and Ukraine. What is crucial here is the or a anti-war stance.

Posted by: Noirette | Sep 24 2016 15:48 utc | 17

Corbyn has been demonized by the same scum who hate Trump here.
Of course they are totally opposite in philosophy,but alike in that they arouse the ire of zion.
He seems an honorable intelligent force for good,Corbyn,and no phony loser like BS,who now supports his torturer,and thief who stole his mojo.

Posted by: dahoit | Sep 24 2016 15:52 utc | 18

london has truely fallen to the neo nazi this could be 1936 all over again.
with this and brexit it is clear the goy medicated scum of the northern zones are out to destroy team uk.
global news radio group,rupurt murdoch,bbc and c4 and all the other thousands of soros agents need to regroup and distract with gladio assets.
only with rolling news horror and terror only with emotion along with medication and fast food can we fog smoke screen 4D terrain.

believers we still have are jewissh goddess terry may in power her village sonning has been a tavistock mossad test bed since the 60s may may have been born a boy but she will be are greatest woman after thatcher and her majester sachs koburg gotha vlad tepesch impaler borgo pass bat battenburg windsor.
batten down the hatches we can still make london jerusalem or tel aviv the empire of the city square mile is after all are cash cow.
corbyn cannot win the the kabbalah strong he is a worm for moloch owl snackings

Posted by: charlesdrake | Sep 24 2016 16:06 utc | 19

"It was the ‘left’ who opened up the banking system to perpetual fraud and bail-outs by the public.……then Bill Clinton as follow-up "

With all due respect, Bill Clinton may be a 'liberal' (whatever that means), but he certainly isn't part of the left and never was.

The 'real left' lost any power it had when it decided finance was beneath them, but let's not confuse the real left with what passes these days for leftism or progressivism. Modern 'progressives' are pretty much pretenders, grifters.

Posted by: paulmeli | Sep 24 2016 16:19 utc | 20

james @14. A 'toff' is a 'toffee-nosed git'.

"The 'nosed' part of 'toffee-nosed' appears to derive from the allusion to the haughty toffs, who stuck their noses in the air when faced with the hoi polloi."

These pictures illustrate the current batch.

Osborne, Rothschild et al

Cameron, Johnson et al

Posted by: Yonatan | Sep 24 2016 16:21 utc | 21

@14 james

According to my late English friend Anthony a toff is a pretender to the British 'upper' class, or perhaps one of them himself. Don't know if a woman can be a toff. Maybe dh knows. But the word's defined in wikipedia, better than I can do. I was referring to the links to the videos celebrating Tory May running Corbyn down to the delight of the Tories in her own party, toffs among them no doubt, mumbling on behind her.

I don't know much about Corbyn. But anyone hated by the Blairites and supported by ordinary people can't be all bad.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 24 2016 16:27 utc | 22

Tremendous. Now the Zionist Establishment will be devastated since Theresa May Thatcher is guaranteed victory in the next election.

Feckless Controlled Opposition. The Rothschilds must be crying themselves to sleep these days.

Posted by: C I eh? | Sep 24 2016 16:31 utc | 23

@21 How would I know?

The word "toff" is thought to come from the word "tuft", which was a gold tassel worn by titled undergraduates at the University of Oxford or the University of Cambridge.[1][2][3][4][5] The Anglo-Saxon word "toforan" has a meaning of "superiority".

That's from wikipedia (an egalitarian website available to all)

Posted by: dh | Sep 24 2016 17:12 utc | 24

I attach a link to a wide-ranging article by Martin Jacques, published in the Guardian of all places, in which he analyses the Corbyn, Trump and Sanders phenomena from the standpoint of an upsurge in resistance to neoliberalism. There were 48 pages of comments. I was lucky enough to have had Mr. Jacques as a tutor at university:

Posted by: Lochearn | Sep 24 2016 17:19 utc | 25

@Jack Smith
"Like the White Helmets and Bellingcat?"
Yes, exactly.

Oh and do not forget: "Assad Is a mass murdering monster that has to be removed from office"

Posted by: Mick | Sep 24 2016 17:29 utc | 26

Any analysis which does not operate at the level of 'Spectre,' at least some of the time, is essentially useless and robs the 'Left' of information necessary to properly oppose the reality, as opposed to the invented reality, foisted on us by plutocrat media.

It's a very simple thing. Why avoid it so studiously?

At the end of the day, I am still grateful for the opportunity to make this comment, but for how much longer will it be permitted? Left or right, these be heady days for jackboot enthusiasts.

Posted by: C I eh? | Sep 24 2016 17:36 utc | 27

Here in South Africa things seem to be going that way too. People here remember. And the hipocracy of western neo liberalism is illustrated and put into context when Isreal gets away scot free with policies that this country were universally sanctioned for...

Posted by: dan | Sep 24 2016 18:55 utc | 28

Hopefully an incentive and/or model for a true left to emerge in the US as well.

Posted by: ritzl | Sep 24 2016 19:04 utc | 29

Pass the schnitzel.

Posted by: charlesfake | Sep 24 2016 19:04 utc | 30

@27 It's interesting to see which countries in Africa are doing well for their citizens. You see the sort of Prussian model of Uganda, looting its neighbors to build a prosperous state. In Eritrea you have the disiciplined leadership shutting out the global capital and building a working state themselves, a tiny bit at a time.

Posted by: Cresty | Sep 24 2016 19:16 utc | 31

Corbin is good, but he is not on the right place on Syria. Too in bed with Muslim brotherhood. But I guess he is worlds better than Blair.

Posted by: anitele'a | Sep 24 2016 19:25 utc | 32

Corbyn has been demonized by the same scum who hate Trump here.
Of course they are totally opposite in philosophy,but alike in that they arouse the ire of zion.
He seems an honorable intelligent force for good,Corbyn,and no phony loser like BS,who now supports his torturer,and thief who stole his mojo.

Posted by: dahoit | Sep 24, 2016 11:52:40 AM | 17


Personally, I detest Trump, and I have high regard for Corbyn, both on record in my comments here. In person, he is very boorish, not a "person I would have a beer with". He is "anti-elitist" in the worst sense, defying good taste, resorting to most primitive slogans etc., erasing all traces of apparently decent education he once received. In the same time, he is "elitist" in a very bad way, with tasteless displays of worth, bragging about power (e.g. how he buys cooperation of politicians, district attorneys etc.) and so on.

His political program makes very little sense. He did utter some statements that are (a) reasonable and (b) against bad habits of the establishment. But they do not add to any coherent vision or program.

The contrast to Corbyn is like day to night, or Arctic wasteland to tropical rain forest. Corbyn has mild manner, even temper, consistent and coherent programs. And they include anti-interventionism and anti-militarism, which are among reasons that he is so hated by Labour establishment. Within UK, Farage and UKIP are closest to Trump, and it is very instructive how they differ with Corbyn and Labour's left.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Sep 24 2016 19:47 utc | 33

Botswana: From dusty bowl to sparkling success story
By Hamilton Wende
Gaborone, Botswana
Two years of drought and crop failure had brought "havoc and hunger to its widely scattered agriculture inhabitants" he wrote, adding that the newly-formed country had little hope of economic stability.

At the time, in a country the size of France, there were only 12 kilometres (seven miles) of paved roads, few hospitals and most people depended on cattle and subsistence farming for an income.

Five decades on and Botswana is regularly hailed as an Africa success story. The UN's development agency, the UNDP, describes Botswana as "one of Africa's veritable economic and human development success stories".

The world's largest rough diamond to be unearthed in a century was discovered in Botswana

Botswana is blessed by two great pieces of fortune - huge diamond deposits and vast pristine areas of wilderness where big cats roam free and which are home to more elephants than anywhere else in the world.

Both have helped the country's per capita wealth jump more than 100-fold in 50 years.
Wise stewardship by Botswana's leaders has seen the country avoid the "resource curse" where mineral wealth has been squandered, as in Nigeria and elsewhere.

Kebapetse Lotshwao, politics lecturer at the University of Botswana, says the first four decades of independence have been especially successful. "The country was lucky to have leaders such as Seretse Khama and Ketumile Masire [Botswana's first two presidents]," he says

Posted by: okie farmer | Sep 24 2016 19:57 utc | 34

This news is not even mentioned on the BBC's front page (in America). I had to click on UK news to find the news. LMAO.

And I can't help but think something like that will happen in the US in November.

Posted by: Jean | Sep 24 2016 20:00 utc | 35

Headline from today’s UK Express: Jewish community FURIOUS at re-election of 'antisemitic' Jeremy Corbyn [Emphasis original]

We need to look at Corbyn’s victory for what it is: giving the toxic UK iJews and zionists a good thumping. These mal-semites have done their best to sink Corbyn and the left, beginning with their sickening but typical “anti-semite” attack on former London mayor, Ken Livingstone for saying Hitler supported zionism, which is an assertion supported by reasonable interpretations of Hitler’s early views before the Palestinians pleaded for the Final Solution. Knowing what we know 60 years later about the way the (mostly Russian and Eastern European) Ashkenazi have destroyed Palestine and have eagerly instituted and carried out their apartheid policies there, Hitler was justified in wanting them to migrate out of Europe. The iJews have proven to be the sort of people no civilized nation would want for neighbors.

Sakiq Khan, John Mann and the other Yisrael-firsters in Labour who got on board this mal-semite witch-hunt ought to get the Bleach Bit treatment by Labour, and Ken should be given the mic. Viva, BDS!!

Of course UK’s iJews, zionists and other mal-semites are taking another stab at taking Corbyn down with yet another “anti-semitism row.” These “anti-semitism rows” keep popping up like whack-a-moles. Independent

Meanwhile, here in Canada the other May (Elizabeth) has decided not to step down as leader of the Green Party. She threw a nasty hissy-fit after the Greens voted to support BDS. The Greenies would have been a lot better off without a leader who supports apartheid, IMO. Viva, BDS!!

And then there’s good ole’ Hilton, Yisrael’s goy-to girl in the US, who is becoming increasingly visible in the rear view mirror of the 2016 election. She is coughing, fainting, and her left eye is wandering around in its socket like the eye of a starved chamaeleon looking for a fly. All she has to do is stumble or start hacking in front of the cameras one more time and Smokin’ Joe will have to take over.

But that, as many here have commented, might be to Yisrael’s advantage. Hard to say . . . he is so Janus-faced and a politician to the core, after the way Netyanhu has f’d him multiple times over the last 8 years, Joe may take AIPAC’s money and then stab them all in the back. A wet-dream, I know, but like Obomber said, there's always hope.

Posted by: Denis | Sep 24 2016 20:28 utc | 36

@ 31 (Corbyn) "Too in bed with Muslim brotherhood."

I would be interested to know why you think this. Does defending the Palestinians over decades or meeting their representatives put Corbyn in bed with the Moslem Brotherhood?

Posted by: Lochearn | Sep 24 2016 20:29 utc | 37

Yes, the fake left (as represented by the detestable Guardian) faces its worst fear: an actual left winger in charge of the neo-liberal Labour party. The next thing you know, voters will have an actual choice between a right wing establishment candidate backed by all the media (May) and a fairly progressive, anti-war politician (Corbyn) detested by all the media and all of Parliament. The media and elite talking heads will do their best to trash Corbyn at every step (He's anti-Semetic! He's a Russian pawn! He endangers our nuclear security! He dresses poorly!) and it remains to be seen if British voters will be swayed by the lies or if they'll resist them because they're so obviously false.

Posted by: WorldBLee | Sep 24 2016 20:41 utc | 38

It's all really part of the popular revolt against neo-liberal economics. People are simply unhappy that everything goes into the pockets of the rich, and they don't get rewards for their work.

The revolt is rather blind - sometimes it goes to the right, sometimes to the left. Trump may well win, but he won't satisfy his supporters. Corbyn, we have yet to see that he can win a general election, but his results so far are convincing.

What happens once these people, popularly elected, encounter the Deep State (Derin Devleti, in the terms invented by the Turks) is of course a question. Obama failed, and submitted. The alternative is revolution.

Posted by: Laguerre | Sep 24 2016 20:44 utc | 39

@ 38

Good comment about the deep state. We have seen how Tsipras and the pony-tailed Spanish dude have fared.

In the article I linked to above there is this:

Corbyn is not a product of the new times, he is a throwback to the late 70s and early 80s. That is both his strength and also his weakness. He is uncontaminated by the New Labour legacy because he has never accepted it. But nor, it would seem, does he understand the nature of the new era. The danger is that he is possessed of feet of clay in what is a highly fluid and unpredictable political environment, devoid of any certainties of almost any kind, in which Labour finds itself dangerously divided and weakened.

The nature of the new era is finance. The real power of the deep state is in Wall Street and the City of London. Obama was bought and paid for before he left Chicago.

Posted by: Lochearn | Sep 24 2016 21:15 utc | 40

Too in bed with Muslim brotherhood.
Bizarre. What makes you think that? It is the US (and consequently the British) who are in bed with al-Nusra.

Posted by: Laguerre | Sep 24 2016 21:19 utc | 41

Wikipedia is tightly controlled. Any allusions to the truth are carefully buried within layers of bullshit. Ergo, truth stays concealed because the common reader won't see it under the layers of verbose misdirection and excrement.

Anti-War movement was destroyed with precision by the PTB. Music, Peace Movement, Hippies, LSD, Then orchestrated bullshit narrative ...Filthy stinking hippies, spitting on soldiers, scary Black Panthers, and the real deal killer:

The brutal and gory Charles Manson (likely false flag psy op) murders.

Tagged all long hairs as pond scum.

They couldn't get their hair cut quick enough.

The propaganda coincided with the elimination of JFK, RFK, MLK, Milk, Lennon... Anyone with the apparent leadership potential to inspire grass roots political upheaval is eliminated.

Then they got them coked up and disco dancing.

Posted by: fast freddy | Sep 24 2016 21:37 utc | 42

40 La Guerre

It is their self proclaimed, demonically chosen deep state "leaders", and they are not "in bed" with Al Qaida and Medinat, but the boss of them.

Imo the Brits still have more balls left on them than most other W Europeans, and thank g*d for that cause they're gonna need them.

Posted by: Quadriad | Sep 24 2016 21:58 utc | 43

35 If they are furious, maybe they should take off their t'filen and put on their brillen and look around themselves a bit and reconsider their lifestyle choices.

It's not a safe existence being someone else's pitchfork detecting canary in the coalmine. To paraphrase the Ravs, it's unwise to live like that.

Posted by: Quadriad | Sep 24 2016 22:04 utc | 44

@23 dh

Sorry. I was only implying that you might be British and so might know the origins of the word, not that you were a toff yourself. Or trying to do so. looks like I failed.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 24 2016 23:19 utc | 45

@44 Not the first time you've done it actually. I might simply be a guy who doesn't post personal details on MOA. Some do, some don't.

Posted by: dh | Sep 24 2016 23:51 utc | 46

@ Lochearn 24
Martin Jaques comments on the death of neoliberalism are welcome (as editor of Marxism Today he opened the Thacher floodgates but later recanted.)
However on Jeremy's lack of economic nous he is wrong. Jezza is behind an inovative education movement at grass roots level on matters of finance, austerity etc. with John Mcdonall and a number of economists. Some of his ideas are in line with TUC general sec Francis O'Grady on workers control. He is far from the infantile leftism of the seventies.Perhaps he left this out to get in the Grauniard.

Posted by: anonlabourite | Sep 25 2016 0:10 utc | 47

What happens once these people ... encounter the Deep State .... Obama failed, and submitted.

Posted by: Laguerre | Sep 24, 2016 4:44:51 PM | 38

You may be the first to have noticed him trying. If there's a shred of evidence of that please relay it!

The reality: Obama's career has been 'establishment plant', an unfortunately perfect one (well, perfect once he put on his 'Chicago black' speaking voice) for the politically correct neoliberal era. From his early days representing downtown and the Daley machine, to his 'Wall Street Barry' Senate years, and then his Wall Street and other PTB presidency. Never the slightest sign of integrity, which is how the establishment likes their politicians.

Posted by: fairleft | Sep 25 2016 1:51 utc | 48

Good news for a change. Let's hope Corbyn's win is a move towards the better for the workers in the UK.

Posted by: ben | Sep 25 2016 2:02 utc | 49

x @ 7: Thanks for the link. Another bright spot for a dismal world.

Posted by: ben | Sep 25 2016 2:05 utc | 50

OT: The Clintonistas' (aided by the Obama admin) continuing McCarthyist slander of anyone with a connection to Russia. Inside their Beltway Bubble, they apparently think Russia has been sufficiently demonized for this warmongering paranoia to have voter appeal. They're likely wrong and I hope Trump sticks it to them during Monday night's debate. But ... he often wimps out. We'll see.

My comment at that link is an example of how you have to argue 'through' the layer after layer of lies and other 'official facts' that Americans (who've paid attention to the mainstream media) have been fed just over the last couple of years:

The US is a military threat to Russia, Syria, and China. Trump wants normal relations with Russia. Page is a Moscow-based businessman with normal relations with his strong connections in the Russian government. On August 5, his near non-relationship with Trump was clarified, although he would be a great advisor for anyone who wants real-world advice on Russia rather than demonization. Manafort over many years was an advisor to the elected government in Ukraine. The US sponsored a coup that replaced the elected government, which had balanced between East and West and was not 'Kremlin-backed', with a far-right austerity regime that threw the balance out of whack in favor of the neoliberal West.

Posted by: fairleft | Sep 25 2016 3:07 utc | 51

Re: Posted by: okie farmer | Sep 24, 2016 3:57:07 PM | 33

Wise stewardship by Botswana's leaders has seen the country avoid the "resource curse" where mineral wealth has been squandered, as in Nigeria and elsewhere.

The most important difference between Botswana & Nigeria is population - population density in particular.

The population density of Nigeria and many other countries and poor countries in general is far far higher than in Botswana. For that matter, what was once the wealthiest country in Africa until recently was a North African country with a similarly large area (larger) and a very low population.

That country being Libya. Now destroyed.

Posted by: Jules | Sep 25 2016 4:29 utc | 52

@45 dh

Well we all have to have come from somewhere. Britain is not the worst place on earth.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 25 2016 4:54 utc | 53

Trump refused to meet with Poroshenko at UN. First solid political gesture action, besides rhetoric, against neocon madness. Although his submission to AIPAC and GS banker as advisor still overshadows his claim of being independent.

The issue with Corbyn is why he did not support BREXIT as vast majority of workers he claims to represent did, after all revolution must be about overthrowing neoliberal power and supranational neolib power in the first place.

Posted by: Kalen | Sep 25 2016 5:03 utc | 54

I join in and also say, "Congratulations to him and good luck!" This is good news. The Brits are winning back my respect.

Posted by: Steve | Sep 25 2016 5:59 utc | 55

@16 Noirette

This election, the election in the states ... I just read of another election today, the 25th, in Switzerland, a referendum on giving more power to the state to monitor people's communications.

All referenda in Switzerland are interesting in that they call attention to the fact that the Swiss can all one whenever they feel that their legislature has erred ... can you imagine what would have happened in the USA if there had been a referendum on the invasion and occupation of Iraq in 2003, or on the bailout of the banksters in 2008?

Apparently the polls say this one is going to pass.

I wonder if you agree, Noirette? I wonder what the legislation will actually do, if it passes the referendum?

Posted by: jfl | Sep 25 2016 9:41 utc | 56
Swiss voters are deciding in a referendum whether to back new surveillance powers for the country's intelligence agencies.

The new law would allow the authorities to tap phones, snoop on email and deploy hidden cameras and bugs.

It would help Switzerland catch up with other countries, supporters say.

But opponents fear it could erode civil liberties and put Swiss neutrality at risk by requiring closer co-operation with foreign intelligence agencies.

Polls suggest voters will back the measures, which would allow the Federal Intelligence Service and other agencies to put suspects under electronic surveillance if authorised by a court, the defence ministry and the cabinet.

The Swiss government says the powers would be used about once a month to monitor the highest-risk suspects.

The new law was not comparable to the spying capabilities of the US or other major powers, which "go well beyond what is desired in terms of individual liberty and security for our citizens", Defence Minister Guy Parmelin said earlier this year.

Swiss law currently prevents authorities from relying on anything more than publicly available information or tips from foreign officials when monitoring domestic threats, according to a government website.

The new surveillance law was passed last year but has not yet been enacted after opponents collected enough signatures to force a referendum under Switzerland's system of direct democracy.

Posted by: okie farmer | Sep 25 2016 10:50 utc | 57


If Trump does win, he'll be impeached faster than Hillary would be. The establishment would need to crush Trump quickly should he refuse to capitulate. I seriously doubt the monied interests that control both parties would allow the rise of independent, thinking Congressmen, Senator and government bureaucracy.

Posted by: P Walker | Sep 25 2016 10:55 utc | 58

Jeremy Corbyn re-elected leader of UK Labour Party

Corbyn’s victory was achieved in the teeth of a coup attempt led by the party’s Blairite wing, supported by the vast majority of the party’s MPs and backed by every one of Britain’s TV channels and major newspapers, including Britain’s state broadcaster the BBC , and the nominally liberal Guardian. In the face of witch-hunts, membership purges and slanderous denunciations of his supporters as thugs, anti-Semites, misogynists and “Trots,” the contest proved that the Blairites and Brownites are widely despised even by a majority of their own party—which is only a pale reflection of how they are viewed more broadly. In contrast, Corbyn’s stated aim of opposing austerity, militarism and war has galvanised popular support—despite his own record of capitulations to the right wing since taking office.

Just as there is criticism of Russia for repeated extensions of 'ceasefire' offers to those who seem capable only of stabbing them in the back, so too is such criticism of Jeremy Corbyn extended by the trots ...

Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell told the BBC that Labour MPs had nothing to fear and there is “no threat of deselection.” Asked whether an invitation to return to the shadow cabinet would be extended to Hilary Benn, who spearheaded the walkout that precipitated the leadership contest on a pro-war, pro-nuclear weapons platform, McDonnell said yes: “Hilary’s incredibly talented. We’ve worked together over the years.”

Corbyn’s overarching commitment to unity proves he is not an opponent of the Labour bureaucracy, but its last line of defence. His political role is a rebranding of Labour, which has become politically toxic as a result of its rightward lurch to overtly pro-business and pro-war policies. His aim is to prevent the emergence of a genuine struggle by workers and youth that would inevitably lead to a break with Labour.

No one's hatred is as 'pure' as a trot's.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 25 2016 11:50 utc | 59

Re: Posted by: jfl | Sep 25, 2016 7:50:59 AM | 59

Inviting Hilary Benn back into the Shadow Cabinet may be a gesture of reconciliation, but it is a mistake to think this leopard will somehow change his spots.

This is a man so stupid in the aftermath of the disasters of Iraq & Libya as to advocate so staunchly similarly destructive and pointless policy "non-solutions" in Syria!

The man is toxic and it is an incredibly stupid mistake to try and accommodate Benn and his ilk in the Shadow Cabinet - it can only bring dissension and disaster!

And it looks weak and this weakness will once again be attacked and exploited by these very Blairite morons against Corbyn.

Posted by: Jules | Sep 25 2016 12:30 utc | 60

I love how corrupt ideologues can't see the forest for the trees.
The enemy of good people all over this world is zion,a malevolent force of hatred and division which has the good people of this world at each each others throats in divide and conquer.
Look at America,and its domestic disaster of gender and race baiting and division,all backed every day by the ziomedias poison pen of globalist greed at every working and MC Americans expense.
They hate Trump more than Corbyn,as Trump aint the nice guy Corbyn is,and will take no prisoners in expelling all the zionist dual citizen traitors from within our SD,and our government.
If you won't recognize that Zion is the force that is behind all this world conflagration,you need your head or heart examined,or maybe your loyalties?
And Turk arrested for murdering 4?5?Washingtonians.
Uh,a little more blowback from the attempted coup,or is just Muslim revenge?
Another million votes for the Donald,and the zionists totally downplayed that angle,of course.
And in a shocker the NYTs endorses the Hell Bitch.ho ho.

Posted by: dahoit | Sep 25 2016 12:38 utc | 61


I agree, but I still assert that no one's hatred is as pure as a trot's : 'His aim is to prevent the emergence of a genuine struggle by workers and youth that would inevitably lead to a break with Labour.'

They are just dour little beasts who sour people on 'the left'.

The analysis at is top-notch.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 25 2016 12:51 utc | 62

jfl as usual the referenda are very interesting. On the Federal level - the collection of data or ‘spying’ on citizens issue - the proposal is very dense, complex.

Private life in CH is so protected that the Internal Intelligence (SRC) can’t do much of anything, it needs to be ‘modernised’ etc. It is expected to pass as you say…and imho it will..results soon...

> see okie farmer at 57. However, the text does offer a whole heap of safeguards. For me the sticking point is that it allows citizens to be investigated and / or surveiled outside of official available public data (which = no med records, no bank accounts, and nothing to do with expression of opinions unless public and actionable in any case by the state) without informing the person itself, which until now, incredible as it may seem, was mandatory. You get a letter informing you that you are under investigation/surveillance, and a reason (could be BS natch) has to be given.

Some parts of the proposed law are just common sense: e.g. to allow the SRC itself to search its own employees and monitor their internet use! — The two latest scandals involved employees stealing data to try to sell it, or attempting blackmail.

CH also voted on a Green Party initiative of fantastical ambition to reduce CH’s ecological footprint drastically (won’t pass but created a storm o discussion) and for a Socialist proposal to review the old-age state pension scheme, > paying more to present pensioners (won’t pass, rubbish, like all Soc. initiatives in the past 10 years) plus of course multiple cantonal issues.

in eng brief about CH votes

Posted by: Noirette | Sep 25 2016 13:27 utc | 63

@63 Noirette, 'without informing the person him/herself, which until now, incredible as it may seem, was mandatory. You get a letter informing you that you are under investigation/surveillance, and a reason (could be BS natch) has to be given'

That is right-on, according to me! Yeah, there might be a case or three of a genuine baddie running, but I'll trade that to blow the cover on their fishing-trips in the other 97 or 99 cases in one NSA nanosecond!

If you wanted to keep that provision, but scotch others, you could initiate your own legislation, right?

Switzerland was the model for Mike Gravel's Ni4d, National Initiative for Democracy.

Thanks for the link.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 25 2016 14:35 utc | 64

@63 N

I realize that the Federal Council is not an honest broker when it comes to a description of the initiatives : they are The Government and are in favor the status quo and of increasing their authority, same as any government, and I realize that English is not the language of government business in Switzerland, and that the latter point accentuates the former in terms of the English summary of the initiative and referendum, so I'll see if I can find a little more on both.

Very interesting in both cases. Thanks very much for the link, good place to start.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 25 2016 14:51 utc | 65

Corbyn has smashed the Blairite back doors in... without applying lubricant either. So dominant is the ownership that weeks before the leadership vote the word Blairite was outlawed.

How's that legacy looking Tony...?

Posted by: MadMax2 | Sep 25 2016 14:53 utc | 66

I admire Corbyn immensely, for his grit and for the fact that he opposed bombing Syria. But he's fringe, surely? I hope he is anyway, since I've heard nothing useful from him on the major problems we face in England.

An Islington progressive heading a popular Left renaissance? I suppose we could do worse - and are at the moment, in fact - but unless Mr Corbyn escapes from the snowflake belt I don't see it happening.


Posted by: Outsider | Sep 25 2016 15:44 utc | 67

On a tiny island such as Great Britain pitchfork politics may gain the upperhand where it has apparently failed in the larger US, the corporate duopoly being an entity island unto itself. God bless the British people for breaking out of the stagnating morass of elitism, and may Brexit extend across the Atlantic as well. There is a fresh breeze coming from that historic homeland; we rattle our chains and applaud.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 25 2016 17:23 utc | 68

I have funny feeling when I read "pitchfork politics". In my home country, it has more sinister connotation, as there is a more recent memory of the lethal use, like "He was stabbed into his own door with a pitchfork and left to die." So for a mere political unrest there is another expression, "kosy na sztorc", literally, scythes upright. A peaceful agricultural tool can be very lethal after a modification that is easy in a village forge. As I checked for the images, I found "Workers had scythes upright in front of the ministry", but the photo showed tire burning.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Sep 25 2016 23:03 utc | 69

@69, pb, 'He was stabbed into his own door with a pitchfork and left to die'

Yeah, that would give me a 'funny feeling', too.

But I've heard about the pitchforks ... & axe handles, I believe ... forever in the US. I've always imagined it as an aroused citizenry surrounding the Powers That Are and demanding - the release of a political prisoner, action on the latest egregious crime by the PTA themselves - as a demonstration with props. "We're not takin' NO! for an answer - this time." The pitchforks and axe handles are there to demonstrate 'earnestness'.

Everyone knows that bringing pitchforks to a gunfight is a loser ... and that the PTA are the expected losers in the event ... for having gunned down 'unarmed' people. But the imagined efficacy of pfs & ahs has evaporated ... take Noirette's repeated references to the demonstrations against Shock & Awe. Not only are demonstrations ineffective, the overt murder of blacks, often for being black ... on video ... in the US, with zero repercussions for the PTA are in fact a demonstration of intent. Today the blacks, for their swarthy 'crime', tomorrow any and all of you : resistance is futile, return to your cells.

Seems to be falling on appreciative white ears. Black ears, not so much, they're the ones literally under the gun. Wait till after the cuckoos change in the clocks marking the transition between 4 year imperial reigns. Then the bullets will really fly and the counter 'insurgency' operations in the US will truly begin. The next milestone along the sorry road of descent for the USA.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 26 2016 4:06 utc | 70

@outsider 67
Don't worry man.
Jezza has got alot of support among the proles up north.
"I voted BREXIT I have waited a long time for somebody like Jeremy to come along."
62 year old Ex miner from Doncaster. Being a typical sentiment.
BTW am a wee bit skeptical about yr love of Corbyn and all that jazz.

Posted by: anonlabourite | Sep 27 2016 9:45 utc | 71

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