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September 28, 2016
A Few Links On Syria And Other Issues

Just a few links …

The White House and State Department are miffed that Syria and Russia are cleaning up their Jihadis in Aleppo city.

There is a false claims evolving in western "news" that the current Aleppo operation led to the breakdown of the ceasefire agreement. Two points on this: 1. The ceasefire did not "break down". It expired after a previously agreed period. Both sides did not agree to a prolongation. 2. The most important ceasefire point was the physical separation of al-Qaida and other U.S. proxy rebels. The U.S. was unable (or unwilling) to fulfill that point.

See: Moscow Makes Public Full Text of Russia-US Deal on Syria

The main priority in Syria, according to the document, is the demarcation of territory controlled by Daesh and al-Nusra Front terrorist groups and territories controlled by Syrian rebels.

After the end of the ceasefire the U.S. and its subaltern allies are flooding Syria with new weapons:

Both rockets and MANPADs are part of a "Plan-B" the CIA had already developed in May 2015 but which was held back until now. There are likely additional military elements to this plan. On the diplomatic side the U.S. (and its stooges) -obviously unable to act rationally- now imitate defiant children. "If we can't get exactly what we want we will never again talk to you."

A very major issue for Syria (and one reason why many Syrians flee the country) are U.S. and EU sanctions. Their consequences were so far hardly ever reported. Here is the first major piece in U.S. media about them: U.S. and EU Sanctions Are Punishing Ordinary Syrians and Crippling Aid Work, U.N. Report Reveals

In a 40-page internal assessment commissioned to analyze the humanitarian impact of the sanctions, the U.N. describes the U.S. and EU measures as “some of the most complicated and far-reaching sanctions regimes ever imposed.” Detailing a complex system of “unpredictable and time-consuming” financial restrictions and licensing requirements, the report finds that U.S. sanctions are exceptionally harsh “regarding provision of humanitarian aid.”

An internal U.N. email obtained by The Intercept also faults U.S. and EU sanctions for contributing to food shortages and deteriorations in health care.

The email went on to cite sanctions as a “principal factor” in the erosion of Syria’s health care system.

The piece also explains that the Syrian and Russian behavior towards insurgent occupied cities is in no way more severe than the usual U.S. procedures:

Meanwhile, in cities controlled by ISIS, the U.S. has employed some of the same tactics it condemns. For example, U.S.-backed ground forces laid siege to Manbij, a city in northern Syria not far from Aleppo that is home to tens of thousands of civilians. U.S. airstrikes pounded the city over the summer, killing up to 125 civilians in a single attack. The U.S. replicated this strategy to drive ISIS out of Kobane, Ramadi, and Fallujah, leaving behind flattened neighborhoods. In Fallujah, residents resorted to eating soup made from grass and 140 people reportedly died from lack of food and medicine during the siege.

To help with the sanctions and other issues China had recently agreed with Syria to provide medical support. But just like Russia, China is now considered a U.S. enemy and the CIA and Pentagon are eager to fight it.

Risky business: Is US supporting anti-Chinese militants in Syria?

With war hawks in US/Turkey/Qatar/Saudi arming and funding anti-Chinese militants in Syria that are planning more attacks on Chinese embassies and interests abroad, coupled with US gunboat diplomacy in the South China Sea, this dangerous “deterring the dragon” combination risks turning into a “provoking the dragon” scenario, and may escalate into a military conflict between two nuclear powers.

(The piece also includes this vignette about the anti-Chinese TIP Uighurs in Syria:

Later videos emerged of US/UK-funded White Helmet members with two captured young Syrian soldiers in Kahn Touman, and taunting “Assad, Russia, Iran and China, are they stronger than god?” The two soldiers were later executed by TIP militants.)

U.S. official: THAAD to be deployed to deter North Korea threats

THAAD is a long range missile defense system. Putting it into South Korea makes no sense if one wants to counter shorter ranged North Korean missiles. The target here is obviously China. This will have consequences.

A lot of hype is made today about two hospitals in east-Aleppo that were allegedly bombed:

The second piece, in the Washington Post, originally included this sentence:

Neither hospital was seriously damaged and both are expected soon to function again, …

I pointed that out several times today to "bombing" hypers including to Washington Post writers. Soon after that the piece was "updated" and the sentence changed to:

Both hospitals are expected to be repaired, but they are badly damaged.

Still, according to the piece, only two people were killed in the relevant strikes and three injured. Had the attacks actually targeted the crowded hospitals both would have been destroyed and many more people would be dead. Instead the hospitals seem to have received only collateral damage from strikes on nearby military targets. But pointing that out does not fit the U.S. propaganda line.

Meanwhile the U.S. and its allies continue their daily business of killing people in Syria and elsewhere.

I somewhat agree with this election take by Peter Hitchens:

The world's fixated on Trump. But Hillary could drag us ALL into a catastrophic war

After Monday's TV show with Clinton and Trump CNN had published a poll claiming that Clinton was the winner of the debate by a wide margin. CNN later released (pdf) the poll data. It turns out (page 9) that only white people and only those above 50 years of age responded to the question. The poll was also heavily skewed towards democratic voters. In other words: it was completely fictional and useless besides giving Clinton additional (false) media momentum.

Scott Adams' take: Clinton won the debate last night. And while she was doing it, Trump won the election. He had one thing to accomplish – being less scary – and he did it.

 

Comments

Temporarily Sane @99 said “There is a lot we do not know – cannot know – and basically making stuff up and presenting it as fact doesn’t change that. The comment section here is not immune, but it’s not out of control like on some other sites.”
“Does anybody else wonder about this?”

I aggregate alt news at my site which means I visit hundreds of sites a week which cover various subject matter – surveillance, technology, finance, politics, national security etc.
What I have learned after eight years of doing this work daily is this – not all alt news sites are made equal. What I mean by this is that a lot of alt news sites are corporate fronts. They call themselves ‘alt news’ but as you have observed, especially in the comment sections which serve as the true barometer of a legit alt news site, they aren’t.
Moon of Alabama aka b is truly an alt news site according to my driving definition of what an alt news site is, which includes – editorial independence, thoughtful and professional approach to the material they cover, make attempts not to include too much emotionality, provides what he/she believes to be the facts (this is key. Why? B/c many offer opinions but few corporate backed alt news sites link to factual material which supports their position/argument/thought/opinion), they personally manage their comment threads and chime in from time to time, the sites feel personal and they make every effort possible to make the reader feel welcomed.
There are so many alt news sites out there who do similar work that ‘b’ does, but what makes MoA so daggone rare and special, again in my humble opinion, is that first it is free, he covers a topic, the Syrian debacle in a way that is meaningful to all of us readers. He’s a digger. A researcher. He trusts his gut. Instincts. He takes risks. And my hunch is he does this work with little reward b/c he gives a damn about those innocents caught up in this miserable U.S. regime change that went South a long damned time ago.
Just my two cents.
Welcome…

Posted by: h | Sep 29 2016 22:56 utc | 101

@15
“Something is definitly wrong with the brain of this woman, her behavior is unnatural, almost robotic.”
Even some of her fans admit she has a problem with coming across as human. Her gestures and mannerisms look forced, unnatural. Like she’s playing a roll and suppressing her personality. Her eagerness to murder people and destroy their nations suggests psychopathy but the superficially charming and likeable personality that goes with it is missing. The first big NYT pro-HRC shill piece of the campaign suggested the “we came, we saw, he died” remark was captured during an “unguarded moment” and judging her by it is unfair…which is a bizarre thing to say because usually the unguarded, relaxed version of a personality reveals more about the “true nature” of an individual than the guarded and repressed side.
Not being acquainted with Clinton I have no idea what her internal struggles are or how mentally unstable she is. But, just for fun, if I put on my amateur psychologist hat I see a women who is ruthlessly and monomaniacally ambitious and power-hungry and will do or say whatever she thinks it takes in order to reach her ultimate goal of being elected POTUS. Perhaps she feels (or has been told) her true personality turns people off even more than her mechanical robot lady act so she represses her “natural” self and uses the robot as her default public face. These are sociopathic tendencies. I’m just bullshitting here and throwing out a possible reason for her seemingly unhinged persona, but whatever her issues are, her history of lying, allegiance to Wall Street, cartoonish un-statesmanlike conduct (Putin is Hitler….really??), bellicose warhawking and disregard for human life and national sovereignty make the prospect of a Clinton WH very daunting indeed.

Posted by: Temporarily Sane | Sep 29 2016 23:03 utc | 102

And I wish to add that the material MoA provides is educational in nature. His commenters, in general, appear to share in the desire to not only provide additional material to embellish/support ‘b’s’ material, but they also are inclined to educate.
The foundation of a true alt news blog begins with the generous and sincere desire to educate their readers. Not tell them what the news is but rather offer material that then links to first source material so the reader can make up their own minds/opinions after clicking on those provided links to further their understanding on the subject at hand.
All of us who do work in the alt news world want an informed readership. Why? B/c the best weapon we have to fight against the propaganda from the state is an informed electorate. It’s what the state fears most. And we know that.

Posted by: h | Sep 29 2016 23:12 utc | 103

Syria slams US-led coalition for destroying two bridges

Syria has slammed the US-led coalition purportedly fighting Daesh for destroying two bridges over Euphrates River in the eastern province of Dayr al-Zawr, where the same alliance recently killed 83 Syrian soldiers.
The official SANA news agency reported that the bridges of al-Asharah and al-Mayadin in the eastern countryside of the provincial capital city of Dayr al-Zawr were hit by the coalition’s warplanes on Wednesday.

The US is openly at war with Syria. It gets bolder and bolder with each act of aggression. And harder to stop, as it builds a record of unopposed air war, as it establishes its can-fly-zone.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 29 2016 23:24 utc | 104

1 killed, over 108 injured as Train crashes into station in New Jersey

A train has crashed into a station in the US state of New Jersey, killing at least one person and injuring over 100 others.
The station is located nearly seven miles from New York City, close to the waterfront with the Hudson River, and is usually crowded with people who are headed to Manhattan.

Death, devastation, destruction, and deceit abroad … and now for NY commuters, as well. The aged infrastructure of the USA is taking its toll. All energies, all funds devoted to the MIC and its endless campaign of DDD&D. It’s endless war against all, abroad and at home as well. Get used to it America. It will only get worse.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 29 2016 23:32 utc | 105

@104
Syrian War Report – September 29, 2016: US Deploys Troops near Aleppo City

US troops have entered the Syrian towns of Marea and Azaz located north of Aleppo city, Lebanese Al Mayadeen channel reported. The US servicemen are embedded with ‘moderate rebels’ from the FSA and are going to prepare the US-backed advance on ISIS in the area.
The appearance of US servicemen caused tensions between Jabhat Fatah al- and the FSA. Jabhat Fatah al-Sham militants called for “a fight with the Americans” and burnt several FSA flags. Some pro-government experts believe that the deployment of US servicemen in Marea and Azaz are not linked with the fight against ISIS and is likely the move in order to strengthen the US influence in the area of strategic Aleppo city where the Syrian government forces have recently launched a full-scale advance against terrorists.

Ground troops as well? How far off can the US/Russian confrontation be?

Posted by: jfl | Sep 29 2016 23:39 utc | 106

John Kirby State Dept Spokesman gets a good reply from the Russian Defence Ministry, to his threats about Russians going home in body bags..
“About Kirby’s speculations Russian troops might sustain losses in Syria Konashenkov said that Russia “knows well as to where in Syria, including Aleppo province, there are ‘clandestine specialists’ who do the operations planning and command the militants’ operations and how many of them there are.”
“Should there follow any attempts to act on the threats towards Russia and Russian military servicemen in Syria, the militants may find themselves short of both body bags and the time to get away,” Konashenkov said.http://tass.com/politics/902966 Good on you Konashenkov, its the only langauge they understand

Posted by: harrylaw | Sep 29 2016 23:41 utc | 107

@97. Those that have the ability or position to destroy the American dollar have an exact number of reasons not to equal to the number of dollars they have. The Saudi leadership, in particular, is very cognizant they would all be chased out or killed if not for the American protection racket. For anyone to do what people often believe they can do is tantamount to one form of suicide or another and this doesn’t even start to discuss how the American Empire views dissent abroad.
The decline of American power will occur at the domestic level as there are many nations who know that their own future is inextricably tied to American power. That’s why you can see the mindless disconnected leadership in Europe and why the Chines won’t do anything until pressed.

Posted by: P walker | Sep 30 2016 1:06 utc | 108

@108. Right. The Saudis have a lot to fear. Iran is number one of course but their own population must be a big worry especially the Shi-ites. And if their own Wahabbis decide to seize power the Americans may not be able to stop them.

Posted by: dh | Sep 30 2016 1:25 utc | 109

SmoothieX12 | Sep 29, 2016 10:55:25 AM | 72
It would probably be far more accurate to say human’s in general are racist. Having done a bit of traveling; that has been my experience.
Americans tend to be more violent in their racism (recent police shootings), or maybe I should say westerners, as evidenced by what’s going on in Europe.

Posted by: V. Arnold | Sep 30 2016 1:43 utc | 110

Re: Posted by: From The Hague | Sep 29, 2016 1:15:29 PM | 83
http://www.Netherexit.com
Get rid of Rutte next year. I know Wilders isn’t the answer for everything, but if he can get the Netherlands out of the EU he would do the world a great service and go a long way to destroying the EU in the process.

Posted by: Jules | Sep 30 2016 2:29 utc | 111

#94 Mina – Le Figaro
I’ve read the article you’ve sent the link to both in French (with my usual imperfect understanding of it) and Google translated (far worse, as usual). It is surprisingly well balanced and professional an assessment for a Western MSM. And Figaro’s a major publication, unlike the Cologne daily.
The best news are the comments section. It feels like there is a great mass of still fairly intelligent, not nearly fully brainwashed French readership who have been eagerly waiting for articles like this one that don’t try to insult a genuinely interested reader’s intelligence.

Posted by: Quadriad | Sep 30 2016 3:02 utc | 112

Re: Posted by: jfl | Sep 29, 2016 7:32:46 PM | 105
Surely the first thought when considering this train crash is an act of terrorism?

Posted by: Jules | Sep 30 2016 4:24 utc | 113

SmoothieX12 | Sep 29, 2016 4:04:53 PM | 92
Russia, in the same time, is viewed as clear and present danger for a reason of ability to generate alternative civilizational ideas, especially against the background of Anglo-American liberalism collapsing in cultural, economic and military terms. And yes, Russia time after time defeated Western (super)powers.
Zooming out, it’s interesting to note that most imperial expansions in history have eventually contracted to the geographical footprint of a single country, be it Macedonian, Egyptian, Greek, Roman, etc. Even where colonists massacred the inhabitants, independent nations formed through the expulsion of the imperial occupiers. Overlaid with religious and economic expansionism, I daresay that the fundamentals of racist ideology are practically genetic. Nonetheless, as every thrust toward imperial or ideological hegemony is met with attenuation by rebellion, conquest by greater power, or parasitic tribes, we have to guess at the moment we can declare that one superpower or another has met its peak. The nuclear capability makes things different, now, obviously. Yes, America, the wayward child of Britain, enjoys the oceanic isolation and a well-federated union indivisible, but your point in res military power is dead on: No amount of conventional weapons will allow America to prevail, and escalation to nuclear is, a given, suicidal final protective fire. The Russians do know denial of resources in retreat. USA, not so much.
The greater fear than US vs Russia in a Churchillian final cavalry charge is, humbly put, the south Asian group, that is the most recent region to test their capabilities. At what point will those who wish to swim with the big fish consider themselves more equal than their neighbor and incite the atomic demolition, and how will it be contained?

Posted by: stumpy | Sep 30 2016 4:26 utc | 114

Re: Posted by: Quadriad | Sep 29, 2016 11:02:07 PM | 112
And one can only hope these thinking French people vote for Marine Le Pen next year.
Certainly not this turkey again. We don’t want Merkozy 2.0 (even if only for a few months).
Nicolas Sarkozy promises to offer UK chance to change decision on Brexit if he becomes French president
‘I would tell the British, you’ve gone out, but we have a new treaty on the table so you have an opportunity to vote again’
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/brexit-nicolas-sarkozy-uk-chance-to-change-mind-if-french-president-a7334871.html

Posted by: Jules | Sep 30 2016 4:32 utc | 115

@113, jules, ‘Surely the first thought when considering this train crash is an act of terrorism?’
Ever taken a train in the USA?

Posted by: jfl | Sep 30 2016 5:34 utc | 116

Re: Posted by: jfl | Sep 30, 2016 1:34:30 AM | 116
I have, but that was some time ago. What’s the story with the driver?
He would be the first suspect, but also fairly easy to rule him out as well.
Crashing a crowded train into a crowded train station would be a “great” act of terrorism for any budding jihadi.

Posted by: Jules | Sep 30 2016 6:25 utc | 117

re 112

It is surprisingly well balanced and professional an assessment for a Western MSM.

It’s an interview with an academic specialist in the Arab world, who published a book about Syrian politics before the war.

Posted by: Laguerre | Sep 30 2016 7:18 utc | 118

Can Russia Learn From Brazil’s Fate?

Brazil’s financial openness made Brazil an easy target to attack. One might hope that Vladimir Putin would take note of the cost of “economic openness.” Putin 2KillingTheHost_Cover_ruleis a careful and thoughtful leader of Russia, but he is not an economist. He has confidence in neoliberal Elvira Nabiulina, Washington’s choice to head the Russian central bank. …
Nabiulina, an indoctrinated and propagandized neoliberal, is essentially a servant of Washington, not that she is aware of her role as “useful idiot.” She delights in the applause she receives from the Washington Consensus for leaving the Russian economy open to Washington’s manipulation. Being a neoliberal, she does not understand that Russia’s central bank can create at zero cost the money with which to finance productive projects in Russia. …
There is a huge difference between the money created by the central bank and the money created by foreign creditors. Money lent by foreign banks in the form or US dollars or euros must be repaid with interest in the foreign exchange in which the money was lent. Money created by the central bank to finance public infrastructure projects does not have to be repaid at all, much less with interest and in foreign exchange earned by exports.
Funds acquired from borrowing abroad bring many risks. The money can be pulled out, collapsing a freely traded ruble. The interest that must be paid is a drain on Russia’s foreign currency reserves. Foreign borrowing also brings a foreign exchange risk, which rises with economic sanctions. If the ruble drops in value or is driven down with an orchestrated attack, the ruble cost of the foreign loan can rise dramatically.
None of these risks and costs are present when the central bank is the source of money. The appropriate use of the Russian central bank is to create the money with which to finance public projects and to serve as lender of last resort to private Russian companies unable to obtain funding elsewhere. This use of the central bank insulates the Russian economy from orchestrated destabilization.

I hope Putin is listening … not to this article but to ‘Glazyev, [who] alone among Putin’s advisers, understands this.’
The Russian Army cannot defend Russia from Nabiulina and the banksters.
Crisis at Germany’s Deutsche Bank intensifies

In contrast to the financial breakdown of 2008, when a limited degree of international cooperation and joint crisis management was practiced, all the major powers are responding today to the prospect of a renewed economic crisis with national recriminations and harsh measures against each other. The global economic and financial system is increasingly becoming a battlefield torn by national antagonisms. This is not only intensifying the economic predicament, but also encouraging the arms race and the global preparations for war.

This move by the US is a declaration of war … although things can no doubt be ‘worked out’ if Germany comes round (surrenders unconditionally).
If this is the way the US treats it’s NATO allies … how will it treat the Russians, and the Chinese, if they allow the US the leverage to do so?
@117 Jules
Anything is possible. The US train system is a wreck. I can easily imagine this happening on its own. I’m surprised more wrecks like this haven’t happened. I don’t think people in the US take intercity trains outside the New York commuter region. The railroads have been allowed to atrophy completely.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 30 2016 10:46 utc | 119

That mfucker obama did it again!
UN condemns killing of at least 15 civilians in US drone strike in Afghanistan
https://www.rt.com/news/361171-us-drone-civilians-afghanistan/
Where are our media now?!

Posted by: RE3 | Sep 30 2016 11:44 utc | 120

@114, Stumpy

No amount of conventional weapons will allow America to prevail

In the last 25+ years US “hegemony” was built not so much on US economy, which, while still large and diverse, deindustrialized dramatically and shrunk in real terms, not on US lead in science, which also shrunk, but mostly on the myth and carefully nurtured perception of an American conventional (I stress this) military omnipotence. This myth is rooted in fast and decisive victory over fourth rate and supremely incompetent Arab (Saddam’s) military. The truth, however, is such that, and that is the main point, US cannot win namely conventional conflict with Russia in her immediate vicinity, not can it win the same against China. Here goes the myth of its omnipotence–Syria showed the range of technologies and operational expertise which US thought only she had. Events in Russo-Georgian War of 08-08-08 also demonstrated that combined arms warfare is alive and kicking. Once one takes this self-proclaimed military “omnipotence” from the US, what’s left? This is an existential question Without this “omnipotence” there is no “hegemony”. Hence hysteria which is a direct result of desperation.

Posted by: SmoothieX12 | Sep 30 2016 11:56 utc | 121

SmoothieX12 | Sep 30, 2016 7:56:33 AM | 121
Once one takes this self-proclaimed military “omnipotence” from the US, what’s left? This is an existential question Without this “omnipotence” there is no “hegemony”. Hence hysteria which is a direct result of desperation.
Very excellent points of observation of reality on the ground.
But this very fact makes the hegemon extremely dangerous; desperation breeds extreme responses.
Like the cornered Jackel it is; it will resort to irrational measures for survival.
Metaphores aside; the U.S. is not governed by rational players. This makes the present reality very unpredictable, IMO.
It is critical to understand how these people think and what motivates them; and more importantly, how will they play this out…

Posted by: V. Arnold | Sep 30 2016 12:13 utc | 122

@122, V.Arnold

Metaphores aside; the U.S. is not governed by rational players. This makes the present reality very unpredictable, IMO.
It is critical to understand how these people think and what motivates them; and more importantly, how will they play this out…

US lives right now through its Napoleon’s moment at the Battle Of Borodino, so brilliantly described by Tosltoy in War And Peace:
“Despite news of the capture of the fleches, Napoleon saw that this was not the same, not at all the same, as what had happened in his former battles. He saw that what he was feeling was felt by all the men about him experienced in the art of war. All their faces looked dejected, and they all shunned one another’s eyes- only a de Beausset could fail to grasp the meaning of what was happening.
But Napoleon with his long experience of war well knew the meaning of a battle not gained by the attacking side in eight hours, after all efforts had been expended. He knew that it was a lost battle and that the least accident might now- with the fight balanced on such a strained center- destroy him and his army. When he ran his mind over the whole of this strange Russian campaign in which not one battle had been won, and in which not a flag, or cannon, or army corps had been captured in two months, when he looked at the concealed depression on the faces around him and heard reports of the Russians still holding their ground- a terrible feeling like a nightmare took possession of him, and all the unlucky accidents that might destroy him occurred to his mind. The Russians might fall on his left wing, might break through his center, he himself might be killed by a stray cannon ball. All this was possible. In former battles he had only considered the possibilities of success, but now innumerable unlucky chances presented themselves, and he expected them all. Yes, it was like a dream in which a man fancies that a ruffian is coming to attack him, and raises his arm to strike that ruffian a terrible blow which he knows should annihilate him, but then feels that his arm drops powerless and limp like a rag, and the horror of unavoidable destruction seizes him in his helplessness”(c)

You are absolutely correct, current administration, albeit previous ones were not much better, is packed with people who are irrational, desperate and, not least through their incompetence and egos larger than cathedrals, capable of absolutely insane things. The task, thus, is to deny them any chance to do insane things, until, hopefully, more realistic people come to power. As per how those people think–it is not very difficult to understand at all–I write about it constantly for the last 3 years (and even longer than that). Those people are arrogant, entitled, very incompetent and, as was stated before, suffer from the heaviest forms of hubris. Yes, they are, largely, are detached from the reality. What can one expect from the bunch of Ivy League degree mill “educated” lawyers, so called “political scientists” and journos–people who by definition don’t have any real complex skills and knowledge? Strangely, the most rational people in US now are US military, once one discounts top bureaucratic brass.

Posted by: SmoothieX12 | Sep 30 2016 12:51 utc | 123

@ SmoothieX12 | 121

The truth, however, is such that, and that is the main point, US cannot win namely conventional conflict with Russia in her immediate vicinity, not can it win the same against China.

What to speak of Russia and China, US (and entire NATO) wouldnt be able to win over Iran, which is far from being superpower. Hell, NATO are unable to win against ragtag Taliban for over a decade, Israel was unable to win against few thousand of Hezbollah soldiers, etc. Iran is like 100x more powerful, and Russia/China, what – 1000x more powerful than that? No conventional force could take them (of course each would use different tactics, depending on their strengths and weaknesses).
To fe fair, its the same vice versa, Russia/China wouldnt be able to defeat US too.
@V. Arnold | 122

But this very fact makes the hegemon extremely dangerous; desperation breeds extreme responses.
Like the cornered Jackel it is; it will resort to irrational measures for survival.
Metaphores aside; the U.S. is not governed by rational players. This makes the present reality very unpredictable, IMO.
It is critical to understand how these people think and what motivates them; and more importantly, how will they play this out…

Agree with the most of your post except unpredictable part. They are extremely arrogant, zero of higher values and have insatiable greediness, that makes them very predictable. Also they repeat same tactics over and over again, anyone with knowledge of history can guess what they’ll do step-by-step many moves ahead.

Posted by: Harry | Sep 30 2016 12:53 utc | 124

@124, Harry

To fe fair, its the same vice versa, Russia/China wouldnt be able to defeat US too.

What do you mean “defeat US too”? By staging an invasion from Mexico? I think anyone in Russia’s General Staff who would exercise such an idea would be thrown out of the service and placed in the insane asylum. Russian military doctrine is explicitly defensive and not global in any sense of power projection. All this–in stark contrast to US doctrines, which emphasize global reach and aggressive posture. In simpler words, Russia is not planning to fight US on US territory. But Russia can defeat US conventionally in her own vicinity, which by default means all those global US doctrines being not worth the paper they are written on.

Posted by: SmoothieX12 | Sep 30 2016 13:06 utc | 125

This video shows the extent the JIT (jokers in time?) MH17 team has gone to fix the ‘evidence’ to the desired outcome – namely the Russians did it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbIPo8dW9b0
(watch the missile designer speaking specifically from about 11 minutes in)
It order to pin it on the Russians, the jokers had to fit the firing point to rebel held territory. This resulted in a launch point directly in line with the flight path of MH17. This firing direction then means the that missile and aircarft converged at the maximum closing speed. This in turn meant the the fixed time explosive event would spread the shrapnel over a larger part of the aircraft than was actually observed. In order to fix this, the team have decided that the buk warhead was totally unique. Normally all Buk warheads have a fuse at the front in order to give a wide angle of distribution of the shrapnel on explosion. The JIT have deemed that the Buk used had its fuse at the rear in order to narrow the spread angle to avoid particularly the debris hitting the port engine.
The Dutch ‘experts’ preferred to use US papers detailing whhat they tought the Buk design might be rather than the Almaz-Antey details of what the warhead actually is.
So not only was it a Russian Buk shipped in to east Ukraine, it had a custom warhead design. This custom warhead would actually degrade the performance of a Buk so it be of absolutely no use militarily.

Posted by: Yonatan | Sep 30 2016 13:14 utc | 126

Train crash’My wife s first take was terrorism,but mine was,how the hell would a terrorist crash a train unless he was the engineer?Irish American.Nah.
She works at a big department store chain of which one was attacked and killed 4? people the other day in Washington State,and by a Turkish(Muslim?) immigrant.
And the story has totally disappeared,as it helps Trump.
Counterpunch is a collection of divide and conquer clowns who run down America and Americans daily.Occasionally a responsible report works its way there,but otherwise its a wasteland of commie dreamers.Cockburn was ok,but since his death its gone downhill.Its why people like rglg love it.
Obomba says Peres a hero for co-existing with Palestinians.
Because he didn’t wipe them all out,he’s a hero.sheesh.
A world of shite.

Posted by: dahoit | Sep 30 2016 14:23 utc | 127

@SmoothieX12 123
While their rhetoric suggests otherwise, I detect a glimmer of sanity even amongst the crazies.
While there is talk of filling body bags with Russians and attacks on Russian cities, they are careful to rule out direct actions that could cause Russian casualties.
So there you have it. The goalposts have been set. Go after the jihadis all you want. Kill them all. Kill them dead. Kill them completely. The US won’t directly intervene so long as there is a likelihood of killing Russians in the process. The threat of bringing jihad to Russia (once again) will be an empty one if the job in Syria is thoroughly done.

Posted by: woogs | Sep 30 2016 14:52 utc | 128

@128, woogs

I detect a glimmer of sanity even amongst the crazies.

Even crazies, especially the ones who love their comforts and jobs which require no work but pay well, and most of whom are cowards, want to live. They just need reminders and demonstrations (periodically) of what can happen to them and their loved ones personally if they do continue. Good yield nuclear devices are very effective restrainers, so are conventional Precision Guided capabilities with strategic ranges;-) In fact, those ones can be guided right into the windows of some of those crazies’ residencies.

Posted by: SmoothieX12 | Sep 30 2016 15:21 utc | 129

The Peter Hitchens article is abysmal.
bla bla
It touts a sort of standard omygod!! to choose between lesser evils’ stance. Ignores the history of these two main (fake if one wills) US pol. parties, how this situation came about, and what might happen next. World history, too. Incredibly weak, defensive even.
The elephant in the room, foreign policy and war, is touched on as an outlandish topic, in the sense of Killary drags us into war (a sure bet) and Trump is who knows what yadda yadda an a**hole. This is not serious. Superficial, trivial, ducking-out and self-serving in the extreme. P Hitchens is one imho failed pundit who is clumsily defending a non-position, just going with what he thinks can be acceptable in the mainstream opinion, and keep things chugging along so he can do fakelorum MSM stuff to earn his living. FAIL.
Adhering or agreeing with this kind of BS, b, sorry, is just throwing up one’s hands, saying, it is all wrecked but nobody should look at history or details or project the future or anything, from any kind of pov. and nobody should do anything, act in any way, it is just life. Or rather death for millions of ppl.. (Iraq, Lybia, Syria, ex.) die… How to ppl in Germany feel about a war with Russia?

Posted by: Noirette | Sep 30 2016 15:44 utc | 130

Pave at 74. Ok yes, more or less, good points, hmm but re. the sue Saudi bill for 9/11 some stuff is left out.
Idk who should read the bill carefully and analyse it, intl’ lawyer, what not, analysis missing.
Many articles, even in the MSM, state that some language would prevent any case ever coming to fruition. Showing it is common knowledge:
Daily Mail
Al Jazzera
Next, one needs to examine how private citizens, or a group of them, can successfully sue a ‘State’ / ‘Gvmt.’ besides their own. What historical examples and how did that turn out?
This whole imbroglio is just another media distraction to get ppl riled up, and to offer a little hope to 9/11 victim families (who earn money from their activism), who have nowhere to turn except to blame a foreign power, as 98% accepted huge Gvmt handouts and signed ‘non-oppo’ agreements. Blaming the Saudis was a strong meme right after 9/11, 100% from the Dem side. Michael Moore and the like.

Posted by: Noirette | Sep 30 2016 16:20 utc | 131

@74 pave, @131 noirette
FAIR excerpts TNC media opinion on suing the Saudis for 9/11 …
Should we let 9/11 victims sue Saudi Arabia? Not so fast.

Mr. Obama has repeatedly called it a precedent other countries could easily turn against the United States. It is not a far-fetched concern, given this country’s global use of intelligence agents, special operations forces and drones, all of which could be construed as state-sponsored “terrorism” when convenient.

The Risks of Suing the Saudis for 9/11

Because no country is more engaged in the world than the United States — with military bases, drone operations, intelligence missions and training programs — the Obama administration fears that Americans could be subject to legal actions abroad.

Uphold veto on 9/11 lawsuits: Our view

Weakening sovereign immunity could invite retaliation, opening the military and other U.S. officials serving abroad to similar lawsuits from other countries filed in courts all over the world.

The world’s revenge on the USA for its reign of death, devastation, destruction, and deceit?
Think the ‘fines’ in aggregate might be a couple, three orders of magnitude larger than the $14 billion the US is presently threatening to extort from the Derivative Bombshell in Germany?

Posted by: jfl | Oct 1 2016 0:01 utc | 132

Another potential opening point for the first shots of WW III …
India launches military attacks against Pakistan

The US is playing a most dangerous and incendiary game. In pursuit of its anti-China alliance with New Delhi, it is encouraging India’s government, now led by the communally toxic BJP, to pursue an aggressive, but supposedly “calibrated,” policy of diplomatic, economic and military action against Pakistan—a country with which it has fought four wars and that has threatened to meet any large scale Indian attack with the speedy use of its recently deployed “battlefield” or tactical nuclear weapons.

Posted by: jfl | Oct 1 2016 0:03 utc | 133

I came upon this, from Marjorie Cohn, from June … before the fact … US Bombing Syrian Troops Would Be Illegal. Actually, it was tossed with US Bombing Syrian Troops Would Be Dangerous, by Robbert Parry, into one word-salad. I took it to pieces again.
After running down the usual reasons that such would be – was, 17 September – illegal, MC goes over what such attacks entrain in their wake …

Indeed, Security Council Resolution 2254, to which the cable refers, nowhere authorizes the use of military force, and ends with the words,
“[The Security Council] decides to remain actively seized of the matter.”
This means that the Council has not delegated the power to attack Syria to any entity other than itself.
If the U.S. were to mount an armed attack on Syria, the Charter would give Assad a valid self-defense claim, and Russia could legally assist Assad in collective self-defense under Article 51 of the Charter.

… Syria and Russia will be able to defend themselves, legally, from illegal US aggression.

Posted by: jfl | Oct 1 2016 6:07 utc | 134

Very apt description of not ‘just’ the DB fiasco …
Deutsche Bank and the global financial crisis

Under conditions where financial asset claims vastly outweigh real wealth, each section of finance capital must turn ever more viciously against its rivals in an attempt to eliminate them.

We’re probably not going to read that particularly acute observation in the TNC financial media.

Posted by: jfl | Oct 1 2016 12:45 utc | 135

@ 131. So weird. Schumer wrote the bill, and backed it. He backed the GOP leadership in overriding the veto. He was still on NPR this morning defending it as justice for victim families. This is curious, because US discovery rules are so broad and this puts all the documents around the event under the control of the courts. We will now find out so much more than has ever been made public about this event on Port Authority land fifteen years ago. Meantime, the Port Authority event space has evolved into the the Vatican of NYC…a religious shine, a holy-of-holies. This is not the Vietnam Memorial, it has more of an air of PT Barnum, lines, translators, popcorn, teeshirts. Also curious, to me anyway, is that not one report on the runaway PATH train made the point that Hoboken was the last stop before the train crosses the river into the WTC.

Posted by: S.H.E. | Oct 1 2016 18:04 utc | 136

There’s an interesting story today about the Pentagon paying UK PR firm Bell Pottinger $450M to produce fake Al Qaeda propaganda videos.

Posted by: Les | Oct 3 2016 1:45 utc | 137