
No one can look back over 20th and 21st century history, without studying the work and ideas of this Cuban who wrote a small Caribbean island into the pages of “true global history,” as told by the people.
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August 13, 2016
Happy Birthday Fidel
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@ b Posted by: V. Arnold | Aug 13 2016 5:23 utc | 1 Fidel Castro’s life and leadership in Cuba is a stark contrast to the U.S. and its clown car parade of rulers: one gives to the world, doctors, education, and medically trained staff; and the other, death, destruction, never ending war and lies. Posted by: V. Arnold | Aug 13 2016 5:39 utc | 2 Fidel Castro was not the first Jesuit educated Communist leader in Latin America. A thriving Jesuit commercial empire, known as the Jesuit Reductions, predated the Cuban Revolution and Karl Marx by many centuries. Posted by: alfa alfalfa | Aug 13 2016 5:46 utc | 3 that’s called poverty. you could equally argue Tsipras turned greek woman into 5Euros prostitutes with that same “reasoning”… Posted by: ratatat | Aug 13 2016 6:52 utc | 4 not to mention Cuba was already turned into a giant brothel long Before Castro, although an US-run one. Posted by: ratatat | Aug 13 2016 6:55 utc | 5 OT and the latest : Posted by: chu teh | Aug 13 2016 7:39 utc | 7 …includes Bill Clinton’s speech to US Turk community glorifying Gulen and formation of Gladio B covert op.. Posted by: chu teh | Aug 13 2016 7:42 utc | 8 4 Posted by: Alison DeBeers | Aug 13 2016 7:50 utc | 9
Posted by: PavewayIV | Aug 13 2016 8:01 utc | 10 @10 pw Posted by: jfl | Aug 13 2016 8:59 utc | 11 jfl | Aug 13, 2016 4:59:20 AM | 11 Posted by: V. Arnold | Aug 13 2016 9:23 utc | 12 From b’s link to Granma, A global revolutionary
Fifty years of punishment, of holding a grudge against the winner, the winner who won despite the dirty tricks of its much larger, much more vicious opponent, seems unbelievable. Until you right next door to Cuba, at Haiti, where it has not been fifty but two-hundred twelve years that the the US has held a pusillanimous grudge against the poorest country in the hemisphere, making sure they stayed that way. Their crime was overthrowing their slave masters ancd achieving their freedom.
Everything must change. Even the United States must and will change. Cuba is the place to study change. It’s not far. Just 90 miles. Posted by: jfl | Aug 13 2016 9:53 utc | 13 ripz | Aug 13, 2016 6:37:03 AM | 14 Posted by: V. Arnold | Aug 13 2016 11:01 utc | 15 Cuban people are very happy. That’s why they make the Empire sad. Posted by: Secret Agent | Aug 13 2016 12:42 utc | 16 Happy birthday Fidel. Posted by: dahoit | Aug 13 2016 12:58 utc | 17 V. Arnold / 15 Posted by: Mann | Aug 13 2016 13:00 utc | 18 Mann | Aug 13, 2016 9:00:02 AM | 18 Posted by: V. Arnold | Aug 13 2016 13:41 utc | 19 There are many things I admire about Castro. However the countless amount of dead young men and women, many of who were romantic idealists and also the best of the best of their countries makes me feel divided about him. The true culprit of the deaths of those youthful beautifully intelligent revolutionaries is USA and it’s stooge cadre of governments, yet I’m still divided about Fidel. I wish him and Cuba nothing but the best but I dunno… Posted by: Fernando Arauxo | Aug 13 2016 14:06 utc | 20 V. Arnold, Thanks. Posted by: jo6pac | Aug 13 2016 14:14 utc | 21 thank you for this thread b, and for all your time and effort. the hospitality here is unequaled on the net (imho) Posted by: crone | Aug 13 2016 16:24 utc | 23 abajo con el imperio maldito, comenzó la revolución! Posted by: hejiminy cricket | Aug 13 2016 16:26 utc | 24 What the US did to Cuba is unspeakable, but honouring a communist dictator? Tad beyond the pale for this man. If you’ve ever visited Cuba, outside of Havana and the resort areas it’s a hole. Literally, starving people, half feral animals running around and all the niceties involved with Marx’s legacy of death and poverty by government dictate. Is the US responsible for some of their plight, absolutely, but communism is responsible for the rest. Posted by: Dave S | Aug 13 2016 16:45 utc | 25 V. Arnold 19 Posted by: Mann | Aug 13 2016 16:54 utc | 26 @25 Starving people? Cuba does have a whacky economic system, decaying infrastructure and a lousy public transportation but I never saw anybody starving. Posted by: dh | Aug 13 2016 16:58 utc | 27 Thank you for honoring a great man. Along with Ho Chi Minh and Vo Nguyen Giap who came in first place in the Vietnam War Games (my father 775th SOG father had no answer for what is second place in a war), Fidel is another inspiration about not giving up your beliefs and dreams in life. He has outlived the American Dream. That says it all. Dave S, Posted by: dan of steele | Aug 13 2016 17:12 utc | 29 b observed: Posted by: likklemore | Aug 13 2016 17:19 utc | 30 Cuba has on the US governments the same effect of the full moon on the werewolf Posted by: john | Aug 13 2016 17:27 utc | 31 29 Have you ever been to Honduras, Belize, Dominican Republic, Panama, El Salvador? Posted by: fastfreddy | Aug 13 2016 17:45 utc | 32 #26 Posted by: jo6pac | Aug 13 2016 17:52 utc | 33 jo6pac Posted by: Mann | Aug 13 2016 17:58 utc | 34 @34 How does Cuba or Castro benefit financially from Guantanamo? The rent is $4000 a year and no Cubans work there. Posted by: dh | Aug 13 2016 18:10 utc | 35 dh Posted by: Mann | Aug 13 2016 18:16 utc | 36 @36 So you’re saying more money gets paid to Castro for the base? Posted by: dh | Aug 13 2016 18:21 utc | 37 dh Posted by: Mann | Aug 13 2016 18:37 utc | 38 A bit off topic, but speaking on socialists Posted by: Mann | Aug 13 2016 18:42 utc | 39 @38 Well perhaps you can suggest a way for the Cubans to get rid of the base. Do you think they should invade? Kind of reverse Bay of Pigs? Posted by: dh | Aug 13 2016 18:46 utc | 40 There is no forever. Posted by: likklemore | Aug 13 2016 18:58 utc | 41 dh Posted by: Mann | Aug 13 2016 18:58 utc | 42 The Guantanamo Bay Naval Station has about 10,000 military, dependents, contractors and torture victims. The teenage-terrorist facility for 13-15 year old prisoners is still open as far as anyone knows. Most of the personnel there are involved with the operation of the naval station, not the detention facilities. A few thousand (maybe less today) were dedicated to the series of separate detention camps located away from the main base facilities. The base is more like a small military reservation of 45 square miles surrounding the bay.
So while the U.S. argues that the ‘mutual agreement’ lets them stay there as long as they want, the specified use as a coaling station (back in steam-powered ship days) has been violated in dozens of ways. The two U.S. naval airfields and a torture camp are probably the most striking violations of the terms. Posted by: PavewayIV | Aug 13 2016 19:05 utc | 43 kudos to fidel and the cuban people! happy birthday to him! Posted by: james | Aug 13 2016 19:06 utc | 44 Link for VICE article above: Will Cuba Now Cash 55 Years’ Worth of Guantanamo Rent Checks? Posted by: PavewayIV | Aug 13 2016 19:10 utc | 45 Dan of Steele Posted by: Dave S | Aug 13 2016 19:10 utc | 46 Why Obama won’t be talking about Guantanamo during his Cuba visit Posted by: Mann | Aug 13 2016 19:14 utc | 47 @42 Raoul has told Obama to his face to rescind the base agreement. Most recently they lodged a protest at the UN Human Rights Council. I don’t see what else they can do. Posted by: dh | Aug 13 2016 19:14 utc | 48 @47 The US has been very clear. Posted by: dh | Aug 13 2016 19:26 utc | 49 dh Posted by: Mann | Aug 13 2016 19:30 utc | 50 @50 You’re right but it’s a start. They may even get majority support at the UN. But you know it will be vetoed. Posted by: dh | Aug 13 2016 19:43 utc | 51 @ 39 Posted by: Tom in AZ | Aug 13 2016 20:35 utc | 52 For what happens in the last third or so of this, Fidel deserves a Happy Birthday wish Posted by: basil | Aug 13 2016 21:44 utc | 53 Clearly TPTB wanted Fidel in power– or at least wanted to end the then-existing govt & economy. At the time, the NYT wrote paeans of praise about an idealistic land-reformer named Fidel. When he stayed in NYC at the Waldorf and had live chickens walking about they loved it. Posted by: Penelope | Aug 13 2016 22:19 utc | 54 I’m stunned at the number of people who have responded to ripz’s and Mann’s gibberish. While it is admirable to illuminate the darkness, those two (or that one) have just been trolling this set of comments and have completely derailed them from their original direction, the celebration of Fidel and the honor of Cuba libre. I suppose we have learned a bit about landlord/tenant law though. Posted by: Macon Richardson | Aug 13 2016 22:21 utc | 55 Tom in az Posted by: Mann | Aug 13 2016 22:30 utc | 56 OK dh …once is enough. Posted by: dh | Aug 13 2016 22:48 utc | 59 Neocon magazine agree with many here Posted by: Mann | Aug 13 2016 22:53 utc | 60 A long time ago I read a very funny book by Carlos Franqui, who had been in the Sierra Madre but later went to the USA. “Retrato de familia con Fidel” ( more or less Family Portrait with Fidel) captures much of the exuberance both of El Comandante himself and of the movement he and Raul led. Posted by: Cortes | Aug 13 2016 23:41 utc | 61 @ Mann wrote “Cuba cant do anything about it so it should just accept and shut up.” Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 13 2016 23:51 utc | 62 you know the creatures up from the sewer are here with the names get hi-jacked.. Posted by: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz | Aug 14 2016 0:10 utc | 63 FWIW: Sanders wife’s family sold a vacation home in Maine, had been in the family since 1900, and The Sanders then used their share of that money to buy a vacation (lakefront) home in Vermont Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Aug 14 2016 0:32 utc | 64 The man who despoiled the Cuban people into a powless penniless mass of dependents in order to fulfill his ideological fantasies. Perhaps it could not be avoided but respect and birthday greetings seem out of place. Would one celebrate Lenin’s birthday today? Not if one has any perspective or decency. Posted by: Northern Observer | Aug 14 2016 1:02 utc | 65 Hey b! Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 14 2016 1:17 utc | 66 @25, so why don’t the Cuban people rise up and overthrow the brutal tyrant. It can’t be too hard. I mean, Castro and the Comrades did it and they were horrible Communists! Posted by: ruralito | Aug 14 2016 1:39 utc | 67 O/T guardian: Isis ranks dwindle to 15,000 amid ‘retreat on all fronts’, claims Pentagon
definitely “believe it or don’t” (and one shouldn’t)… is it about to be time to declare “victory over ISIS” which would then leave Hillary’s proposed “toughening” wrt Syria more clearly, more obviously blatant regime change … without even ISIS to “kick around” Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Aug 14 2016 1:41 utc | 68 “At the time, the NYT wrote paeans of praise about an idealistic land-reformer named Fidel. When he stayed in NYC at the Waldorf and had live chickens walking about they loved it.” Posted by: ruralito | Aug 14 2016 1:43 utc | 69 @ NO 65 Posted by: likklemore | Aug 14 2016 1:54 utc | 71 “Not if one has any perspective or decency.” I guess that leave me out. When I saw the photos of Batista’s agents and torturers in the gutter with their heads blown open. I jumped from my seat and cried “JUSTICE!!!” It was muy indecent. Posted by: ruralito | Aug 14 2016 1:56 utc | 72 @71, that would have been US vs Florida, much earlier. Posted by: ruralito | Aug 14 2016 2:07 utc | 73 The great Fidel Castro, Cuban patriot and lover of mankind who was prepared to sacrifice his country, prostitutes and millions of others, all in a nuclear holocaust during the Missile Crisis. Something the cowards JFK and Khruschev were unable to bring themselves to do in the end. A secular Jesus Christ in fact. Viva la Castro, Dr Strangelove would have been proud. Posted by: Ivan | Aug 14 2016 2:11 utc | 74 What a great thread this is. I could have honored Fidel for those few things I knew about the results of his leadership – which are that under the ostracism of El Norte the Cubans have developed a superb permaculture system of great efficiency that produces the finest real food in the west, as well as medical breakthroughs and supremely competent soldiers. Posted by: Grieved | Aug 14 2016 2:45 utc | 75 @74, Commander Fidel’s tempting of fate during the Missile Crisis was a mistake. But he was mostly right in other areas. That Cuba maintained its integrity and sovreignty despite everything else is a tribute to Communist leadership, obviously. Posted by: ruralito | Aug 14 2016 2:50 utc | 76 @ 56 Posted by: Tom in AZ | Aug 14 2016 2:58 utc | 77 Forgive me if I missed this in the thread, but I haven’t seen a link here to Raul Castro’s recent deflection of Obama’s back-slap. Posted by: Grieved | Aug 14 2016 3:12 utc | 79 @ Grieved Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 14 2016 4:17 utc | 80 Here is the link to a posting In China about Fidel Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 14 2016 4:55 utc | 81 @79 Greived Posted by: MadMax2 | Aug 14 2016 5:12 utc | 82 Cuban people . High standartd of health care ,high standard of literacy. Complete sovereignty from neo-liberal/anglo-zionist influence. HASTA LA VITTORIA SIEMPRE. LA PATRIA HO LA MUERTE. Happy birthday Fidel. Posted by: falcemartello | Aug 14 2016 5:39 utc | 83 I am providing a couple of informative links from teleSUR about Fidel. May he live to see the further demise of empire. Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 14 2016 6:05 utc | 84 @76 I understand that he stood up to the Americans, and that they have a long running embargo in place. But the US is not the only nation they can trade with. They have a niche in medicine, and Americans who can avail of the quality part of it, are no doubt grateful that they didn’t have to sell the farm for a bypass. Nonetheless as an Indian I am totally unimpressed by this, we have hospitals that can do a triple bypass for $4000-$8000, with 3-star stay ins. If this is the best that Communism can do, they should not have bothered. Posted by: Ivan | Aug 14 2016 6:06 utc | 85 psychohistorian Posted by: Mann | Aug 14 2016 6:51 utc | 86 Feliz Cumpleaños Don Fidel … Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Aug 14 2016 7:07 utc | 87 30 Posted by: Alison DeBeers | Aug 14 2016 8:24 utc | 88 85 Posted by: Alison DeBeers | Aug 14 2016 8:32 utc | 89 60 Posted by: Alison DeBeers | Aug 14 2016 8:42 utc | 90 A friend of the Cuban people – Canada’s Pierre Trudeau. May his son continue his policy of openness / independence to the world beyond the greed of capitalism. No matter unintended consequences which are inevitable plus illegal blockade Fidel have a colossal historic stature unpaired to any modern western ephemeral leader comparable, with due proportions and reserves, to De Gaulle Posted by: Rihard | Aug 14 2016 9:44 utc | 92 I think he was a bastard, but he was a staunch anti-capitalist bastard. I refuse to call him great or admirable, but certainly never saw him as the monster he was made out to be by US propaganda for decades. Posted by: ralphieboy | Aug 14 2016 11:10 utc | 93 Bernie Sanders’ ‘Palatial New House’ Posted by: okie farmer | Aug 14 2016 13:26 utc | 94 Kudos to the Castros and their minions. Who knows what Cuba could have become without the embargo. The Empire couldn’t take the chance of letting any system, other than Corporate Capitalism, succeed. Posted by: ben | Aug 14 2016 13:59 utc | 95 “Weekend At Bernie’s New Mansion” psy-op: Posted by: fast freddy | Aug 14 2016 14:32 utc | 96 Felicidades Fidel! Posted by: CarlD | Aug 14 2016 14:53 utc | 97 Best way to avoid Cuba’s despicable standards of living, living conditions and bow to the false idol Castro? Avoid discussing his disgusting country, which it is, anyone that says Cuba has a high standard of living and is some socialist paradise is lying or deluded. Stop praising this parasite, did he stand up to the empire? Yup, should he be commended for his efforts in South Africa, probably, but I don’t know the whole story. What I do know, is that his people are completely empoverished, I had maids at my 5 star resort begging for food. Go to Cardinas, or one of the other many 5th world towns there, do none of you understand what a man like this policies do? Say goodbye to your pc, your Xbox, cell, and eating properly. 3 meals a day? Perhaps gruel, I do not exaggerate when I say what you wish for is complete poverty. Posted by: Dave S | Aug 14 2016 18:47 utc | 98 @98 dave s.. i blame much of cuba’s problems on the usa, not castro… if the usa wasn’t as paranoid as it is, or influenced by wealth, whether it be the cuban exiles in miami or what not – the usa could get on with being a good neighbour.. unfortunately the exceptional nation has never been inclined to much of anything except bullying and sanctioning anyone seen as a threat to it’s dominance… that speaks to just how insecure and devoid of character the usa is at present.. the fact the usa has the 2 main candidates in 2016 is further proof of this.. you may not want to acknowledge any of this.. enjoy your 5 star resort, lol.. Posted by: james | Aug 14 2016 19:17 utc | 99 |
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