Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
July 23, 2016
U.S. Election Thread 2016-05
  • Clinton selects Kaine, a "moderate" right winger somewhat left to her, as her Vice President candidate. "Screw all progressives," she said.
  • Trump selects right winger Pence as his Vice President candidate. "Blah, blah, blah," he said while no one at the lunatic Republican National Convention listened.
  • The Democratic National Committee under its Zionist leader Wasserman-Schultz had from day one on schemed against other primary candidates to get Clinton elected. (True even if some of the leaked DNC emails may well be fakes.)
  • Sanders proved he was fake himself when he sold out to Clinton and endorsed her.

That's my take. Yours may vary.

Comments

But, yet, when it comes to foreign policy, at least Trump is not promising to wage war without end on the world and is less than enthusiastic about NATO. This alone marks him out as a refreshing departure from the norm.
Clinton, meanwhile, is a woman for whom foreign policy and cruise missiles are two sides of the same coin. She comes to the race as the progressive candidate, though only by dint of a grotesque mangling of the English language, could anyone willing the destruction of entire countries, gloating over the murder of an African leader, and threatening to unleash war on anyone that dares stand in America’s way be described as progressive.
https://off-guardian.org/2016/07/24/the-us-democratic-circus/

Posted by: From The Hague | Jul 24 2016 17:25 utc | 101

Dissecting the BS:
Jesuit school?

As an anonymous commenter, rufus can say anything he likes about himself.

Gotta have strong trade unions though first …

Trade Unions have been undermined by “Third-Way” Democratic Party sellouts that push neoliberal trade deals. rufus ignores this and misdirects.

I’ll be joining some notorious ultra-lefts …

Sly attempt to convince readers that an anonymous commenter is trustworthy.
rufus’ ‘socialist credentials’ (whatever they may be) are unverifiable.

… to mix it up with Green Party entryists[?], [like] Socialist Alternative …

rufus is adamantly opposed to opposition from the left to neocon/neolib Hillary’s coronation.

Solidarity with BDS forever.

Sigh… so, again…. no link to BDS.
What exactly does “BDS” mean to slippery rufus? Boston Dental Services? Building Distribution System? Basic Delivery Standards?

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 24 2016 17:58 utc | 102

in re 102 —
Blah, blah, blah. Don’t raise the heat and humidity, spare me the moist hot air.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jul 24 2016 20:33 utc | 103

Is this goodbye Wasserman-Schultz?
“The US Democratic Party chair says she will resign as a row over leaked emails threatens efforts for party unity ahead of the presidential nominating convention.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s move follows a leak of emails appearing to suggest that party insiders tried to thwart the campaign by Hillary Clinton’s rival.”
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36879197

Posted by: dh | Jul 24 2016 20:47 utc | 104

@ dh 104
Is this goodbye Wasserman-Schultz?
No, not really –she moves over and will join the Clinton Campaign to be honorary chair of HRC’s campaign.
C = Clinton
C = corrupt
C =corrupters
UPdate fast moving
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-24/dnc-chair-wasserman-schultz-will-resign-end-partys-convention
Update 1: In a quite shocking ‘beyond caring what the average joe thinks’ move, Hillary Clinton just announced that Debbie Wasserman Schultz will serve as an honorary chair on Clinton’s campaign.

Posted by: likklemore | Jul 24 2016 21:49 utc | 105

@105 That’s a relief. I was genuinely deeply concerned that she may have to start collecting food-stamps.

Posted by: dh | Jul 24 2016 22:02 utc | 106

@ dh 106
dh? collecting food stamps!! like the ones issued by JPM or GS? DWS is in the Club of ‘Garchs and we ain’t welcome.
Bernie had no interest in those or any E-mails
I am eager for the other shoe to drop hmm, the set from the private server(s). All those secrets.
Just may end up being Trump vs Kaine or Biden. aka 1972.
Who remembers Tom Eagleton?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Eagleton

Posted by: likklemore | Jul 24 2016 22:49 utc | 107

@107 You may get your wish. That nasty little Assange person is making trouble again…
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/23/wikileaks-hits-dnc-ahead-of-convention-competes-with-kaine-vp-nomination.html

Posted by: dh | Jul 24 2016 22:54 utc | 108

@ dh,
I find Assange far from a nasty little person as you characterize him.
I think he is doing society a favor by helping call BS on the status quo

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 25 2016 3:56 utc | 109

A link from ZH about the implosion of the DNC after the latest email leaks
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-24/dnc-chair-wasserman-schultz-will-resign-end-partys-convention

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 25 2016 4:12 utc | 110

@190 I knew somebody would call me out on that! It was supposed to be a joke. I’m a great admirer of Julian. A very gutsy guy.

Posted by: dh | Jul 25 2016 5:00 utc | 111

@111 p.s. this is where somebody explodes and calls him a treacherous little rat.

Posted by: dh | Jul 25 2016 5:04 utc | 112

@110 dh
You rely on your readers knowing ‘who you are’ on the basis of what you’ve posted in the past. A little on the presumptuous side. I’d imagine most people who hit MoA have no idea which of us are ‘habitual users’ and which of us are ‘relatively clean’ – let alone have they bothered to calculate a thumbnail for any of us. Clarity is better than snark every time. I’ll try and remember, and follow, my own free advice.
@111
is that the effect you were after?

Posted by: jfl | Jul 25 2016 5:38 utc | 113

Too much tinfoil. The candidate with the better ground game won. Just like Obama in 2008. Remember, Sanders was relying on a new membership strategy, which has its own legitimacy issues and is harder to pull off. You need existing party members to back you over the other guy and he just didn’t convince enough. Now the big question is did Clinton’s dark team ratfuck Bernie by sending BLM activists to disrupt his rally. The fact that this did not come out with the email dump tells me that the BLM leadership just isn’t that far sighted and they inadvertently helped sink the most progressive leader in the field this cycle. But that’s identity politics for you, it tends to miss the big picture in narrowing in on “its” reality.

Posted by: Northern Observer | Jul 25 2016 11:57 utc | 114

Northern, 114 —
“Too much tinfoil” — LOL. Yeah, why look at facts on the ground when fact-free, pre-cooked conspiracy theories are much easier to prepare and enjoy?
We can overcome ID politics by “intersectionality” you know. Otherwise known as “class interests and solidarity” outside of seminar rooms and consensus meetings.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jul 25 2016 12:18 utc | 115

@113 You are reading too much into it. Just an off the cuff comment to go with the link.
But you’re right about snark. It doesn’t work on the internet and I should know by now.

Posted by: dh | Jul 25 2016 12:57 utc | 116

@Noirette 93
The choice of Pence was indeed an uninspired choice, probably by design though. A counterweight in some way that the punters will discover from December.
Pence voted in favour of the Iraq war, at the same moment he draws in the pro-US-anti-war vote. This will not hurt Trump, the teflon is strong with this one – Trump treats the MSM with the same contempt and effortless superiority that the MSM uses on it’s viewership.
Pence just adds nothing to the Trump juggernaut on first inspection…and maybe Trump is very ok with that. But, Pence at this point is more a waste of The Dons time, time better spent attacking Crooked Hilary than defending your running mate.

Posted by: MadMax2 | Jul 25 2016 13:28 utc | 117

Put up with the commie comment;I don’t hate Communists per se,I just hate Commies that aren’t commies at all,just zionist Trotskite scum.
Communism is pie in the sky BS from command and control addicts,and doesn’t work in our real world.Hence I just ignore it,as it its a fruitless endeavor. I believe fascism and its command and control scum suck big time though,and I can’t ignore them,as they control me and my nations future.
And the fascists today are all zionists.
Trump is no fascist,just a nationalist,which America needs desperately to escape the clutches of zion.

Posted by: dahoit | Jul 25 2016 15:20 utc | 118

117;Teflon is Obomba,Trump is armourall.

Posted by: dahoit | Jul 25 2016 15:27 utc | 119

100;The fool on the hill.Beatles.

Posted by: dahoit | Jul 25 2016 15:28 utc | 120

I thought Trump had no chance, but I now notice mainstream republicans that I know declaring that they will vote for him.
This is not to say that Trump is now the favorite, but I would raise my chances of him winning from 35% to about 45% at the moment.
The x-factor is how much he really wants the job. I think he wants to get elected on some days, while on others he’d rather not. He had done IMHO deliberate acts to either alienate people,or to at the very least generate headlines and free advertisement. His WWE and reality TV experience came in handy bigtime. He’s much smarter (at least promotion-wise) than almost anybody realized, and I was surprised at how much he was belittled early-on, as I saw his outright ability to win the republican nod in the introductory speech.
I’m not sure what his true character is. There are definite allegations out there that he raped an underage girl via Jeffery Epstein, and he’s been a notoriously bad business partner for those who lost loads of money investing in his branded enterprises. For him to be the candidate facing Hillary of all other people makes me quite pessimistic, but then-again, Jimmy carter was arguably the most qualified, intelligent and morally-decent Presidents that we’ve had in the 100+ years, and his presidency was beyond horrible.
Anyway, if victorious, I would consider Trump to be the SECOND reality tv president, after Obama.

Posted by: bbbb | Jul 25 2016 19:40 utc | 121

bbbb@121-
Anyway, if victorious, I would consider Trump to be the SECOND reality tv president, after Obama.

What about Reagan? Some contend in his senescence he believed he was an actor playing the president in a Hollywood movie. Who could argue he wasn’t?
The worlds a stage.

Posted by: hejiminy cricket | Jul 25 2016 19:53 utc | 122

@122- apologies for the above. The worlds a stage is not my phrase. It was originally coined by Charles Manson.

Posted by: hejiminy cricket | Jul 25 2016 20:04 utc | 123

in re 119, 120 —
We’ll have a discussion of why “The Socialist Experiment” failed and how Trotsky predicted it at some more apropos time. It will include why a new Fifth International is humanity’s only real hope.
For now, just an observation about video comments. As you know, I often reference videos for satiric commentary and other effects.
I’m always very careful, because quite often the most famous line from the song doesn’t actually convey the message. “The Fool on the Hill” is one of them. I knew it would be only a matter of time before someone misused it.
Let’s leave aside that it’s bad form to cite a song without the video. Or at least a quote.
I take the liberty of using the Brasil 66 version, which I prefer. The opening stanzas suggest the contempt his fellows have for “the fool.”

Well on the way, his head in a cloud/The man of a thousand voices
Is talking perfectly loud/But nobody ever hears him
Or the sound he appears to make/And he never seems to notice

But the conclusion makes it clear who McCartney thinks the fool.

But the fool on the hill/Sees the sun going down
And the eyes in his head/See the world spinning round, round, round, round
And he never listen to them/He knows that they’re the fools
But they don’t like him

Yeah, people never listen to me either, and I’m not well-liked. Meh. Popularity fades, though, truth never does.
To show that there are no hard feelings, even for haters, a tip. Ship of Fools by World Party conveys more the message you sought to send. Hey, really, don’t thank me, de nada mi amigo. I’m an educator, it’s what we do.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jul 26 2016 5:37 utc | 124

All the world’s a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances,
And one man in his time plays many parts….
W. Shakespeare.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jul 26 2016 5:49 utc | 125

Media collusion is so remarkable. PBS Newshour had two congress members, one a staunch Clinton supporter and the other a newly found Clinton supporter, and they both trumpeted on last nights Newshour, this mornings NYT’s editorial board post. Verbatim.
The other thing was how confident they were that Bernie’s supporters will come around. I think Bernie has extricated himself from his own movement, and never understood the momentum logical and well founded political angst could generate. I think the train can keep going without a leader for awhile, but naturally it will need a face at the front in short order.
One last thought. I sensed that when Occupy got shut down that the next iteration would be more demanding and possibly take on a more militant nature. If the Trump, Bernie, and BLM movements get suppressed I think there is going to be striking unrest the next time things bubble to the surface. This is the most discontent I’ve seen in my conscious lifetime, it makes me a little excited, but equal parts nervous.

Posted by: IhaveLittleToAdd | Jul 26 2016 11:49 utc | 126

The Donald has friends everywhere. Crooks and Liars reports The D**khead boasting about it.

Donald Trump says “China, Russia, one of our many, many “friends” came in and hacked the hell out us”….”
A major political nominee is actually gloating about the idea that an enemy country somehow infiltrated a database of a political party and publicized those emails in an effort to somehow influence the outcome of our Presidential election.

But none dare call it treason.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jul 26 2016 12:27 utc | 127

Here’s one of Trump’s best friends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8

Posted by: bbbb | Jul 26 2016 21:07 utc | 128

bbbb at 128 —
ROTFLMAO
That is the best video posted here in a while. I could not find a clip of Giuliani’s appearance on SNL in drag. But the search results were interesting….

Posted by: rufus magister | Jul 26 2016 23:52 utc | 129

Well, he doubled down but the tried to walk it back. Because GOP Figures Disgusted By Trump Urging Russian Cyberattack.
After endorsing an act of espionage already committed, he called for a new round. During what is by all accounts a articularly bad presser by The D**khead Donald. He refused to release his tax returns, which has been the practice of candidates for some years. Likely to reveal he isn’t worth what he says, may reveal his mob ties. It’s NYC construction thing.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jul 28 2016 11:20 utc | 130

More bad stuff ’bout the Greens.
Her hometown paper, The Boston Globe believes there is A new low for Jill Stein.

Criticize the Obama administration’s record on deportations, or Clinton herself as too hawkish, sure. But making the Democrat’s shortcomings in those areas equivalent to those of a guy who wants to build a wall, expel millions, intimidate the press, revive torture, and have the military commit war crimes, is so ridiculous I feel stupid just typing it.

Yeah, a dirty job, somebody’s gotta do it. Fortunately, many hands make light work.
Salon may be a bit dismissive of leftist economics, but it is spot on about Steins anti-scientific vaxxer stand as “in keeping with the last official Green Party platform, from 2014, which supports the ‘teaching, funding, and practice’ of ‘alternative therapies’ such as naturopathy and homeopathy, i.e. funneling money into quack medicine….” It also gets on her as well about cheap moral equivalence. Stein is not the leader the left is looking for.

Finally, I would be remiss not to note the plainly self-interested way in which Stein elides the differences between the Democratic and Republican parties. This is, of course, standard third-party politicking. But in Stein’s case, it’s especially egregious. Her 2015 response to the State of the Union is replete with comments about how Barack Obama “led the charge for austerity” and “made the Bush tax cuts permanent.” Obama did, of course, team with John Boehner to push for a grand bargain to raise taxes and cut entitlements—a push that failed, by the way. He also made some, though not all, of Bush’s cuts permanent. But he did so in the face of a radicalized Republican opposition that has repeatedly threatened not to raise the debt ceiling (which, according to Stein’s On the Issues page, she also opposed raising, preferring a mix of tax hikes and spending cuts—the definition of austerity) and at one point followed through on its threat to shut down the government. To ignore that is to blind yourself to eight years of political history.

Emphasis added above.
I was at a cabin in the woods on vacation, so I didn’t get a chance to have any fun with this bit of old news. How could calling on two foreign powers to dig up what you think are incriminating emails on you opponent not be an act of treason? Incitement, maybe aiding and abetting, of espionage, no?
The Donald has since gone on to claim it was “sarcasm,” though the clip seemed to lack the typical signifiers. And the Huffpost item, even before the sarcasm spin was announced, I think, notes that he tweeted the prompt again, also in earnest.
That he bragged about his Chinese and Russian friends helping him with the earlier hack of the DNC makes his order of the same again quite plausible.
Well with a nice load of compost, courtesy of The Donald, time to get back to Junior’s Farm. “Low life, high life, oh, let’s go/Take me down to Junior’s Farm.”

Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 3 2016 2:18 utc | 131

CNN Green Party Town Hall

CNN announced Wednesday it will host one of its town hall events with the Green Party’s presumptive presidential nominee Jill Stein and her presumptive running mate, Ajamu Baraka.
The hour-long event will be held on Wednesday, August 17 at 9:00 p.m. ET. The event will broadcast live on CNN, CNN International, CNN en Espanol and online via CNNgo.
Stein has consistently polled as the fourth-most popular option in the presidential race, after Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump and Libertarian Gary Johnson. In the most recent CNN/ORC poll, Stein received 5% support nationwide, four points behind Johnson, her nearest competitor.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 4 2016 18:41 utc | 132

Three videos of Hillary acting very strangely:
Why Isn’t the Media Covering Hillary Clinton’s Extremely Bizarre Behavior?
That the media is ignoring this is Orwellian. In the last one, she actually freezes, and a man who is being called “her handler” has to soothe her so that she can start talking again.

Posted by: Demian | Aug 8 2016 22:04 utc | 133

@133 Demian
Yeah, Orwellian indeed…
I am in no doubt she is suffering. I remember Trump ripping her a new hole when she failed to appear with Bernie and O’Malley during a televised debate. Trump questioned her stamina then, and while Trump draws sell out crowds each day, sometimes twice a day, she is appearing only 3 times before Oct 9 I think.
You cant hide from what she’s got. And she’s got it bad.
The peoples champ and US patriot Bill Still does some Social Media viewing figures for us:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5pXLGdVlxqk
Still: How Clinton rigs the polls:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XLf63B1R5aY
And of course Still on: Hilary’s Handler Carries Diazepam Pen
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ6v8yKMX-A
Jovial stuff…

Posted by: MadMax2 | Aug 9 2016 22:38 utc | 134