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July 7, 2016
Libya – Part III – The Return Of
by Richard Galustian In an article in early May, I wrote "Keep in the back off your mind the potential future importance of Saif Gaddafi."
The news of the release from a Libyan prison in Zintan of Saif Al Islam Gaddafi, heir apparent to his late father, is surprising to many outsiders but it nothing to what may come next – a return in some form to power.
In Libya’s 2011 Arab Spring uprising, Saif joined his father and sons on the barricades, castigating NATO-backed rebels in a bitter revolutionary war. While those rebels later cornered and killed his father Muammar and brother Moatasim in Sirte, Saif was captured alive trying to flee through the Sahara desert to Niger.
It may be his good fortune that the units capturing him were from Zintan, a mountain town south of Tripoli, who later went to war with Islamist led Libya Dawn which captured the capital in 2014. When a mass trial was held of former regime figures there, Zintan refused to hand Saif over, sparing him the brutalities inflicted on other prisoners including former intelligence chief Abdullah al Senussi and his younger brother Saadi, who was filmed being beaten in a Tripoli prison cell.
Zintanis were no friends of the former regime, fighting against Gaddafi’s forces as one of the most effective rebel outfits during the uprising that was won by NATO bombing.
But from the few accounts of those allowed to visit him in a closely guarded compound somewhere in the town, he has been treated well, living under what amounts to house arrest, until now.
A year ago a Tripoli court operating under Libya Dawn auspices sentenced him, and either others including Al Senussi, to death. Up in Zintan, not much changed for Saif, with Zintan still digging in its heels and refusing to hand him over to Tripoli’s grim Al Hadba prison.
The shambolic UN-backed Government of National Accord (GNA) under a puppet PM who operates out of Tripoli naval base, the only part of the city they control, however appears to be responsible for the amnesty order given in April to Saif and other prisoners removing their death sentences and ordering them to be freed.
Since then, Saif’s location is a mystery, but Zintan’s attitude to him is tempered by their alliance with former Gaddafi-supporting tribes, including those from Beni Walid and Warshefani, in their brutal battle with Libya Dawn’s Islamists. The Gaddafi tribe itself has a base south of Zintan around Sebha, making common cause with the Zintanis against Libya Dawn militias who control the capital and lord it over the GNA.
Before the Libya uprising, Saif criss-crossed the globe pushing an agenda for democratization he hoped would reform the country. Whether the drive was not serious, or whether it was frustrated by his hardline siblings Moatsem and Khamis, is impossible to know, but he emerges from captivity to find Libya a changed place something he predicted.
Saif al-Islam in February 2011 gave a speech foretelling of what was to come. And he was right “There will be civil war in Libya … we will kill one another in the streets and all of Libya will be destroyed. We will need 40 years to reach an agreement on how to run the country, because today, everyone will want to be president, or emir, and everybody will want to run the country.”
Saif knew his country would be torn apart if his father regime was forced out by the West.
The brutalities of his father’s regime have since been matched by those of some of the militias that overthrew him, most visibly the grim beating of his brother Saadi in a Tripoli jail which his captors filmed in gruesome detail.
Many of the tribes that once supported Gaddafi are now battling Islamists and their opportunistic Misratan allies of Libya Dawn, and will see in Saif a figure who can unify their demands not to be squeezed out of Libyan political life.
Opposition to him taking a political role it can be argued is softening because he was never part of the “muscle” of the Gaddafi regime, spending much of his time in London moving around the gilded circle of rich tycoons, academics and Tony Blair’s political elite.
There is, in other words, an opening for a man who was castigated by rebels for dismissing their rebellion on Gaddafi’s green TV during the uprising, but who never fired a shot in anger. With his release, he might get a shot at the plan he always said he wanted; to reform his country and unite key tribes who feel marginalized by Libya’s power brokers.
Pieces are falling into place for him to possibly take part in some kind of grand council. With the GNA unable to persuade either of Libya’s other two governments to join it, there are calls for a wider mediation effort, with Saudi Arabia and importantly Oman, offering mediation, to be discussed in Brussels on 18th July with US Secretary of State John Kerry.
In this battered, chaotic country, with governments fighting each other and IS, Saif Gadaffi may find a new role as part of the solution rather than the problem.
In the past 24 hours since the news broke he had been freed, Libyans across the country from different towns and cities have held pictures of Saif shouting his name. To my knowledge it's the first time any pro-Gaddafi demonstrations have been evident in so many parts of the country since 2011.
It's time Saif played a role with other libertarians in and outside Libya promoting the old constitution and particularly banishing members of the former AQ affiliate, LIFG.
Rumors are abound that Saif will give a press conference very soon. That's going to be very interesting indeed if it happens.
Comments
What I sent to some friends: Posted by: rg the lg | Jul 7 2016 18:25 utc | 1 Excellent article, rg the lg. I linked it on FB but I’m sure none of my friends will read it. Posted by: spudski | Jul 7 2016 19:07 utc | 2 Posted by: rg the lg | Jul 7, 2016 2:25:26 PM | 1 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 7 2016 20:05 utc | 3 Well, I hope Saif can keep out of harm’s way. Posted by: CarlD | Jul 7 2016 20:08 utc | 4 If Saif Gadaffi does find his way back into helping run or running Libya will potus hillabillie head explode? Posted by: jo6pac | Jul 7 2016 20:31 utc | 5 I hope that Saif Gadaffi does find his way into helping to run Libya. If so, perhaps that badly broken land can start to heal. It would be great to see some leader unify the land and stop the violence — and then go to the UN and demand that the evil US led coalition that destroyed Libya pay for their crimes. Posted by: Mark Stoval | Jul 7 2016 21:06 utc | 6 thanks richard – for these ongoing posts on libya… i hope he is able to remain alive… Posted by: james | Jul 7 2016 21:29 utc | 7 #6 Actually Rome was a pretty good analogy if we factor in the killing technology that the US uses, and Rome did not have, into account. Posted by: ToivoS | Jul 7 2016 22:04 utc | 8 Now this is really news! Saif had plenty of time to think about the mistakes his father and his siblings committed. In case he really reappears eventually he won’t repeat ’em. He could be a glimpse of hope for his battered country and even for the whole of Africa. I hope he will be able to distinguish friend and foe. Posted by: Pnyx | Jul 7 2016 22:29 utc | 9 Saif seems like the new Neolibraconian viceroy to me. I’m sure the Neolibraconians hope he succeeds as Trojan Horse and opens the gates of Libya. Posted by: jfl | Jul 7 2016 22:53 utc | 10 rg the lg @1
Members of the Nobel committee has expressed regret at awarding Obama the Prize(!)
>> On the environment, Obama once again spins his record into something it is not. Most environmentalists see little progress from Obama’s “leadership”. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 7 2016 22:54 utc | 11 I had heard that Saif’s sister had taken a leadership role in the resistance. I hope that spending so much time with Blair has provided Saif with enough understanding of how the neolibs operate without becoming indebted to them. Posted by: Rusty Pipes | Jul 7 2016 23:05 utc | 12 @rg the lg | Jul 7, 2016 2:25:26 PM | 1 Posted by: Jack Smith | Jul 7 2016 23:11 utc | 13 @9 pnyx.. if only the west was given over to thinking of the mistakes they make and continue to make here today.. a cynical observer would be inclined to say the actions of the west are intentional, with the chilcot inquiry of yesterday being further proof of this.. dealing with the west as friend is a tall order to fulfill! you can play try to please as witnessed in the case of his father, but it matters not.. until there is accountability with leaders like blair, bush, cameron, obama and etc – what you say is a real joke.. Posted by: james | Jul 7 2016 23:18 utc | 14 Slightly OT…. Posted by: Jack Smith | Jul 7 2016 23:28 utc | 15 @ rg the lg and jack smith.. why don’t you two 24/7 usa election spin cycle shit artists take it somewhere else? Posted by: james | Jul 8 2016 0:44 utc | 16 Hey James (14) Posted by: Pnyx | Jul 8 2016 1:55 utc | 17 I said it from the start.. it will probably be a Gaddafi only that can restore Libya… Posted by: bbbb | Jul 8 2016 2:04 utc | 18 For what it’s worth, Oksana Boyko has an enigmatic comment on Twitter about Saif: Posted by: Grieved | Jul 8 2016 2:10 utc | 19 @ 17 pnyx.. thanks for the clarification.. i wasn’t actually sure! lots of different types read this blog.. Posted by: james | Jul 8 2016 2:14 utc | 20 Regarding my posts – I do take it elsewhere. Posted by: rg the lg | Jul 8 2016 2:50 utc | 21 9 Posted by: Uk Tahder | Jul 8 2016 3:56 utc | 22 I wonder about this son of Ghadaffi. First a quote from the Daily Beast. Posted by: Penelope | Jul 8 2016 4:02 utc | 23 Here’s another quote from http://www.political-analysis.org/psm/id10.html Posted by: Penelope | Jul 8 2016 4:14 utc | 24 rg the lg @21 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 8 2016 5:24 utc | 25 rg the lg’s #1 isn’t completely OT. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 8 2016 5:37 utc | 26 @14 everything is intentional. There is a general absence of consequences for bad policy. Shaming Blair won’t do anything at all. Dtto for shaming Sarko, Obama, Billary, Cameron, etc. Posted by: bbbb | Jul 8 2016 5:59 utc | 27 I’ll say it one more time and then go away. Allah, Muammar, wa Libya, wa bas!!!!!!!!!! Posted by: Fernando Arauxo | Jul 8 2016 6:30 utc | 28 b – I would love to hear your take on this: Posted by: PavewayIV | Jul 8 2016 7:15 utc | 29 Fernando Arauxo | Jul 8, 2016 2:30:36 AM | 28 Posted by: V. Arnold | Jul 8 2016 7:16 utc | 30 ‘Whether the drive was not serious, or whether it was frustrated by his hardline siblings Moatsem and Khamis, is impossible to know, but he emerges from captivity to find Libya a changed place something he predicted.’; Posted by: brian | Jul 8 2016 8:51 utc | 31 @29 pw, ‘I’m surprised such debate even goes on in the Bundestag’ Posted by: jfl | Jul 8 2016 8:57 utc | 32 ‘The brutalities of his father’s regime’ Posted by: Balu | Jul 8 2016 10:01 utc | 33 Mr Galustian mentions a previous article in May. Here is a pertinent quote from the article: Posted by: juliania | Jul 8 2016 12:37 utc | 35 Here is the link to the article I mentioned above. Posted by: juliania | Jul 8 2016 12:39 utc | 36 Posted by: juliania | Jul 8, 2016 8:39:39 AM | 36 Posted by: V. Arnold | Jul 8 2016 13:10 utc | 37 Al-Manar claims that Saif Gaddafi is still in jail Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jul 8 2016 13:25 utc | 38 Piotr Berman | Jul 8, 2016 9:25:50 AM | 38 Posted by: V. Arnold | Jul 8 2016 13:29 utc | 39 Concerning Merkel, I wonder if she will survive till the end of the term. “Post-Communist” Linke is one thing, but her course of action on Ukraine, Russia, refugees etc. has opposition in her own coalition as well. Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jul 8 2016 13:31 utc | 40 Does Saddam have any spawn to take over Iraq,again? Posted by: dahoit | Jul 8 2016 13:44 utc | 41 The US have made failed states of: Afghanistan, Iraq (took twice to do that), the former Yugoslavian, Somalia and Eritrea (with proxy forces from Ethiopia), Libya, Syria. Indeed the US empire of chaos. Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 8 2016 13:56 utc | 42 #38 Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 8 2016 14:18 utc | 43 Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 8 2016 14:21 utc | 44 #41 Posted by: Inkan1969 | Jul 8 2016 14:34 utc | 45 Good article Richard. Bad you know having met the guy a few times I always thought he had potential to unite a post Gaddafi snr world. He screwed up when he sided with daddy Posted by: Graham | Jul 8 2016 15:26 utc | 46 @21 rg the lg.. i don’t live in the usa and i’m not an obama-phile… turning every fucking thread into an endless conversation on usa politics is tiring and grating.. jack smith doesit all this time.. try staying on topic. thanks. Posted by: james | Jul 8 2016 16:08 utc | 47 James, Posted by: rg the lg | Jul 8 2016 16:45 utc | 48 bbbb | Jul 7, 2016 10:04:57 PM | 18: What I have to wonder is why Russia and China were either caught off guard, or had no concern for the fate of Gaddafi. Didn’t they both abstain on the UN R2P resolution? Posted by: ToivoS | Jul 8 2016 17:04 utc | 49 james@47 – I DO live in the U.S. and agree with you wholeheartedly. Posted by: PavewayIV | Jul 8 2016 18:07 utc | 50 Piotr Berman@38, V. Arnold@39 – I was scouring the interwebs last night trying to get a handle on which was the case or where the rumor got started (either way). No conclusion – both stories claims exist on a number of new outlets, and both are refuted on a number of sites claiming the other is wrong. Posted by: PavewayIV | Jul 8 2016 18:28 utc | 51 I really doubt that Saif will be embraced by the Libyan people; certainly not in the East of the Country. Saif may find friends in the tribes of Bani Walid and Tarhuna, Warshafana and even Sirte, but he will not be a unifying factor. Saif is overestimated in this article and he is a weak individual who had other people paint artwork for him that he paraded around the world as his own work. His thesis(dissertation)from the London School of Economics was found to have been written for him by a professor who was forced to resign upon the breaking of the scandal. There is also the indictment against him from the ICC that needs clearing up, he still is wanted by them. Posted by: bored muslim | Jul 8 2016 18:37 utc | 52 bored muslim@52 – “…and not some mediocre has-been who has no back bone nor a strong , independent character. Posted by: PavewayIV | Jul 8 2016 19:01 utc | 53 It would seem the whole purpose of creating a ‘failed state’ was to insure no pre-existing social or political structures remained operative or even standing. Revolution may replace a prior political or social power with another but social structures usually remain intact or so modified to remove resistance to the subsequent managing parties. Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Jul 8 2016 19:17 utc | 54 PavewayIV @53:
Is it still you’re country? Is it still a government of the people, by the people, and for the people? Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 8 2016 20:13 utc | 55 @48 rg the lg.. lets talk about it on an open thread. thanks. Posted by: james | Jul 8 2016 20:47 utc | 56 Jackrabbit@55 – “Is it still you’re country?” Yes, it’s my country and I am 100% responsible for anything done in its name anywhere on earth. That’s just my nutty personal opinion. I was probably dropped on my head as a child. Posted by: PavewayIV | Jul 8 2016 21:04 utc | 57 @ Paveway, Posted by: bored muslim | Jul 8 2016 22:50 utc | 58 PavewayIV Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 9 2016 0:07 utc | 59 “a mission of this blog is to oppose Fascist movements” ~ #45 Posted by: Mark Stoval | Jul 9 2016 11:20 utc | 60 @60 MS Posted by: jfl | Jul 9 2016 12:07 utc | 61 @Paveway Posted by: dan of steele | Jul 9 2016 14:23 utc | 62 … Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 9 2016 15:33 utc | 63 re: #1 Posted by: John Gilberts | Jul 9 2016 17:56 utc | 64 @62, Dan Posted by: bored muslim | Jul 9 2016 19:08 utc | 65 Air traffic recordings suggest Benghazi-based Khalifa Haftar is backed by French, British and US forces despite his opposition to Tripoli government Posted by: Les | Jul 9 2016 19:49 utc | 66 @64 john gilberts… as a canuck – reading your post is very depressing. thanks for the info. Posted by: james | Jul 9 2016 20:24 utc | 67 paveway, as always thanks for your many enlightened comments. Posted by: james | Jul 9 2016 20:27 utc | 68 dan of steele@62 – “there seems to be some kind of twisted patriotism in our country in that you must support the cause of the day and never reflect upon the consequences of those actions.”
I don’t like the use of ‘first responder’ because this lumps EMTs and firemen in with police. I would rather call it “Cult of the Hero Cop” today. This isn’t to detract from the good work police do, but calls out the poisoning of the well to prevent any examination of questionable police actions and motives as somehow unpatriotic and anti-cop. Almost like we’re being groomed to be as submissive to authority as possible – “The state knows best.” It’s damn disturbing. Posted by: PavewayIV | Jul 9 2016 20:28 utc | 69 ot – @69 paveway.. i have noticed a lot of the ‘cult of the military’ in the usa too.. if you are or were a part of the armed forces, you need to be venerated without question.. i guess venerating war in faraway lands is harder to do and the inability of the usa to actually honour those who have fought in wars seems especially striking in contrast.. all the health issues, (mental or phyiscal) that are a byproduct of serving these wars in faraway lands doesn’t get addressed very well, but one must always honour those in uniform.. and as it turns out, if you still have some wits about you, you can apply for a job in security or as a policemen given you respect for authority… just don’t ask questions and follow orders.. i guess i have a hard time with most of that. Posted by: james | Jul 9 2016 21:23 utc | 70
And what brutalities would those be? Genocide? No, thats favorite pastime of NATO’s “freedom fighters”, Gaddafi never did that in over 40+ years of his rule. Actually he was among the most benign leaders in region (“peaceful” Nutjobyahoo and Erdogan are much worse, what to speak of others), and yet just as with another non-violent leader Assad, West’s propaganda made them look like brutal bloodthirsty dictators, which has nothing to do with reality. Posted by: Harry | Jul 9 2016 21:37 utc | 71 @71, Harry, ‘So why Galustian falls for Western propaganda?’ Posted by: jfl | Jul 9 2016 22:16 utc | 72 Children of Kaddafi. Posted by: Noirette | Jul 10 2016 16:06 utc | 73 With huge thanks for all you do. Spectacular: Posted by: Felicity | Jul 10 2016 17:49 utc | 74 Is this what it is – a denial, disinfo or both from the GNA? Posted by: likklemore | Jul 10 2016 19:38 utc | 75 @73 Good revelations.. The Gaddafi children seem to be pretty bad people.. The thing is that they carry the brand that can rally Libyans. Posted by: bbbb | Jul 10 2016 20:06 utc | 76 james@70 – I agree, James. I would call it ‘Cult of the Hero Soldier’ here in the U.S. It was weird and disturbing to me as a vet and I can tell you there are plenty of others like me. I don’t even care for the plastic “Thanks for your service!” that’s thrown around everywhere here. Most of us were not in actual, real combat and made no special sacrifices. If people are feeling especially grateful for some reason, I can introduce them to plenty of widows, orphans and disabled vets that did sacrifice something and could use some actual material help, not hollow platitudes. Posted by: PavewayIV | Jul 11 2016 6:38 utc | 77 @67 james: Here’s more as Trudeau visits Kiev Posted by: John Gilberts | Jul 11 2016 7:17 utc | 78 Saif should still be a prisoner according to the Libyan Herald and the pardon may not hold up. Posted by: Poul | Jul 11 2016 10:03 utc | 79 this passage is rubbish: Posted by: brian | Aug 1 2016 12:25 utc | 80 |
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