@lysias,91, I stand corrected, thanks for clearing that up.

Posted by: bored muslim | Jun 16 2016 3:34 utc | 104

@lozion, 99…in regards to 65,
Hope you’re still around, but here is the link anyways.
https://southfront.org/russian-military-drills-check-mobilization-readiness-affect-all-districts/

Posted by: bored muslim | Jun 16 2016 3:54 utc | 106

@67 noirette, ‘Orlando. Imho the Boston B. was a managed crisis event, read, nothing against Conspiracy theorists.’
A managed crisis event? If you mean it hit the fan – not exactly unanticipated, more like ‘Gee, I didn’t know (forgot) it was loaded’ – and then the b team hit the floor running with the standard non-explanations for unanticipated events ‘of this type’, taking temporary tactical advantage’ of it, updating the script with the latest topical data … yeah, I agree. All of them from the ‘pros’ at Langley, to the politicos in office, to the wannabes in the wings. ‘Making lemonade from the lemons Providence strews in our path’, from their point of view. Gosh, what creeps. And you can’t tell them from the ordinary smiling cutthroats walking down Wall Street or in the halls of Congress, either.

Posted by: jfl | Jun 16 2016 4:42 utc | 108

62
No, no, the NeoLiberal is more nuanced than that. They must keep the illusion alive of a ‘Free’ and open space.
But just in the last 18 months all media comment sections and political blogs, ezines and enews have been subsumed and then gatekeepered and finally firewalled by zFacebook, Zook. This not only made Zuck more powerful than Hitler, but gave Zook the power to control global Think-Speak.
Go ahead, try posting anything you read here on MoA on a Zook-gated comment section. Gone. I’ve had good political or economic discussion threads going, only to have them completely wiped even as I watched, like Nazim wiped the Juden, like the Bolshevikim wiped the Zeks before them.
Think about that kind of power to control Think-Speak, to crush our latent spiritual oower to invoke peace, to smother our innate spiritual power to embrace acceptance, to build a carefully firewalled Tower of Babel, one chosen entirely to promote H8, division, war and mind control.
The Epoch of the Vampire.
I don’t think anyone at MoA has fully grasped just what’s happened, what’s happening, what’s about to happen in the last 15 years since the 2001 Coup. We are all caught up in Trump-Clinton illusion, the outright theft and looting of $19T by The Chosen, the deliberate credit-debt swindle to loot SS/MC, the ‘buyer of last resort for ZBonds’, and the credit-debt enslavement of our children by school loans they can never declare bankrupt.
THEY’RE SLAVES NOW, and the Congress created this Credit-Debt Slave Law, at the same moment The Fed was bailing out the Banksters CDO gambling debts with our Treasury fund!
That leaves the Fifth Quintile as the Final Solution. The elderly 20% of mostly White Americans and Europeans, the last free life savings on Earth, who will be lined up and marched to the crematoriums, not so much literally, but through massive Mil.Gov.Fed.Biz swindles, unmatched in all of human history.
It’s going down right now.
The rest of the world is flat broke, guys. Once The Chosen liquidate the Fifth Quintile, we’ll be retrograde all the way back to the Empire of the Pharoahs, this time spelled with a Z, and then all of USEU will be its Desiderata, the despised and the wretched, for having given in to the Z.
Please wake up. Please hold the line. Please fight the fight. The Last will be First and the First will be Last is not cast in stone. We owe that to our grandchildren.

Posted by: Uk Tahder | Jun 16 2016 5:57 utc | 110

Houthi forces advance in Taiz amid Saudi airstrikes

The Houthi forces, backed by the Yemeni Republican Guard, advanced inside the Taiz Governorate on Wednesday after repelling a Saudi-led Coalition attack last week.
According to Al-Masirah TV, the Houthi forces and Republican Guard advanced inside the town of Bani ‘Ali in Ta’iz after engaging a large force from the Saudi-led Coalition and their allies.
During their advance in the Ta’iz Governorate, the Houthi forces and Republican Guard came under heavy fire from the Saudi-led Coalition’s air force, as the latter conducted a large number of attacks in order to bail out their ground units.

UAE quits the Yemen War

The United Arab Emirates (U.A.E.) Crown Prince Mohammad bin Zayed Al-Nahyan announced on Wednesday that his forces will be leaving Yemen after spending more than 14 months inside the country.
Prince Mohammad issued this statement regarding the depature of his troops from Yemen via his Twitter news account on Wednesday.
    “Our standpoint today is clear: war is over for our troops; we’re monitoring political arrangements, empowering Yemenis in liberated areas”
    — أخبار محمد بن زايد (@MBZNews) June 15, 2016
It has been a rough week for the wealthy Gulf nation, as they have lost three military helicopters near the southern port-city of Aden.

Are things finally turning up in Yemen?

Posted by: jfl | Jun 16 2016 7:24 utc | 112

Here’s more evidence.
The fact is Facebook is dying.
http://www.bendalls.com.au/facebook-is-dying-i-am-not-sure-anything-will-replace-it-2/
You need to lighten up mate and stop the paranoia about a dying social network!

Posted by: Julian | Jun 16 2016 10:46 utc | 114

95;you gotta be kidding me,you believe serial liars?Every tale of BS from the camps has been exposed as such.
The camps sucked,no doubt,but I guarantee most of the dead died from typhus,starvation and possible cannibalism by inmates.Never put anything beyond human depravity,no matter the human.And then they burned the corpses in crematoria.
Two wrongs never made a right,and I’m sure our leaders knew very little about the CCs until the Zionists told them,so their carpet bombing of civilians was just as bad if not worse.

Posted by: dahoit | Jun 16 2016 13:38 utc | 116

An excellent analysis of Turkey’s reduced options in Syria
Fear and Loathing in the Levant: Turkey Changes its Syria policy and Strategy

Posted by: virgile | Jun 16 2016 15:51 utc | 118

Today a British Labour MP, Jo Cox was attacked and killed as she was leaving her constituency surgery (a regularly scheduled consultation with constituents). The assailant was known and has been arrested, motive unknown. See The Guardian for details. Likely is this person paid the price for festering public hate for the political class. It will become increasingly likely the public, given their emotions, will get precisely the kind of politician they despise, no others will subject themselves to that abuse. The world is and will be what you make it – decide wisely.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Jun 16 2016 19:57 utc | 120

oops, meant 111, bored muslim

Posted by: ruralito | Jun 16 2016 20:52 utc | 122

Bishop Richard Williamson- “There Were No Gas Chambers In WWll”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHroTk1ahDQ
Auschwitz – Why The Gas Chambers Are A Myth – HD (full) (English Subtitles)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE56dcgGVMs

Posted by: fats domino | Jun 17 2016 0:41 utc | 124

in re 59 –
Here we have a conservative meme right up there with the lie that the Nazis were a left movement.
I’ll leave it to the pros to debunk Fischers underyling source, The Pink Swastika, by Lively and Abrams. The text appeared in 1995, though with recent re-issues.
Jon David Wyneken is a professor of history at Grove College, a Christian institution in Western Pennsylvania. A colleague in their Psychology Dept. asked him to look at the issue. The site it appears on is devoted to Christian apologetics. The first part of his review, which discusses the use of the Holocaust by the gay rights movement, opens with this capsule evaluation.

[T]he book had not been well-received by academic historians for a number of reasons…. Lively’s book is simply not good history and is, in fact, not really history at all. Instead, in my view, it is a book that uses history as a weapon in a contemporary political battle, completely outside the historical context of Nazi Germany.

Wyneken quotes extensively from a serious academic refutation, contained in “Whose Memories? Whose Victimhood? Contests for the Holocaust Frame in Recent Social Movement Discourse.” This 1998 Sociological Perspectives (v1, n3 , pp. 519-540) article by Arlene Stein looks at the use of the Holocaust made by both gay activists and anti-gay crusaders.
Stein suggests that gay rights activists have engaged in both revisionism, i.e., re-writing the record to make unfounded claims on the historical record, and “metaphor creation,” i.e. the legitimate use as analogy to compare and contrast past and present.
Stein cites a 1928 statement by the NSDAP on their position on sexual minorities. “Anyone who thinks of homo-sexual love is our enemy. We therefore reject any form of lewdness, especially homosexuality, because it robs us of our last chance to free our people from the bondage which now enslaves it.” The semi-official slogan on women’s issues, I would add, first advanced by conservatives under the late Second Reich was “Children, Kitchen, Church.”
Overall, Wyneken likes Stein’s “strong case against Lively and against all groups… who try to revise the historical record of the Holocaust for their own contemporary political (and hence, in my opinion, ahistorical) ends.” Her criticism are well-founded “and she is very careful and balanced in her conclusions.”
In the second half, Wyneken presents Stein’s view on not only The Pink Swastika but the whole movement by the Christian Right to appropriate the Holocaust. “Christian conservatives have deliberately distorted Holocaust memories to deflect lesbian/gay victim claims, and to make moral claims of their own. In the process, they have degraded the memory of Holocaust victims and alleviated the burden on the perpetrators. ”
She has the following to say about Lively’s work.

[It is] A carefully constructed piece of political rhetoric, mixing serious scholarship with lies and outright distortions… [crafted to] claim that the contemporary gay rights movement, far from sharing a historical lineage with Holocaust ‘victims,’ actually has historical links to the Nazi perpetrators of genocide….
Despite the claim of a direct link between Nazi ideology and homosexuality, historical evidence points to the opposite conclusion: that while the Nazis may have aestheticized homoerotism to a point, they identified homosexuality with the emasculation of men, which they saw as a threat to the traditional patriarchal, procreative family which they idealized.

Wyneken is enthusiastic in his support for this position.

I would go further, though, than Stein does in challenging the validity of Lively’s book as legitimate and responsible history…. Lively does use a number of secondary sources in his research… [but] he does no original research in primary archival documents…. While certainly effective synthesis histories can be written from strictly secondary sources… the most effective and legitimate ones are usually written by scholars who have done extensive primary archival research on those subjects… and have a mastery of the secondary literature as well. In my professional opinion, Lively does not fit either of these categories….
Second, responsible historians tend to cast a skeptical and cautious eye on any historical conclusions that appear reductionist, monocausal, and polemical in their conclusions…. Anachronism is not the historian’s goal or friend. While lessons can and should be drawn from history, these are not nearly as easy to arrive at as many (especially Lively, it seems) think.

Given then the reliance upon dubious historiography, I am unsurprised that much of the information presented is demonstrably untrue. Though Roehm was an early member, he was also an active military officer until after the Beer Hall Putsch and a major figure in Black Reichswehr/Free Corps activity in Bavaria. That is to say, while close politically and personally to Hitler, a bit busy to be a major force amongst the NSDAP. He was out of fascist politics from 1925 to 1931, when Hitler named him the Chief of Staff of the Sturmabteilung, the street thugs who made the fascists a force in Weimar politics.
This formation, active from the first, was organized in 1920 and given this name in 1921. Emil Maurice, one of Hitler’s chauffers, was critical in these activities and was the first commander of the group. He was also the founder of the SA bodyguard detachment that became the SS, the Schutzstaffel
Rossbach was a notorious Freikorps leader and the man who introduced Roehm to homosexuality. He took part in the Kapp Putsch in 1920as well as suppression and was active in the northeast during 1919-20, and spent the years before the Beer Hall Putsch organizing rightists not only in Silesia but nationally. He only joined the Nazis in 1922. Maybe a bit busy to found the SA.
Maybe the confusion arrises from the fact that his Freikorps detachment was Sturmabteilung Rossbach. The orignal “storm detachments” were small, elite front-line units used to punch holes in Allied trench lines.
Several factors entered into the Night of the Long Knives, aka, “the Roehm Putsch.” Roehm’s ideas about a revolutionary army drawn from the SA did not meet the needs of either Hitler or the Wehrmacht. He needed a disciplined field army for conquest, not an unruly lot of street brawlers. They were useful on the way up, but superfluous with control over the police via the SS.
Roehm, as well as the Strasser brothers, were figures in the mass lumpen/petty-bourgeois volkische populist wing of the party. These figures were disturbing to the industrialists who had come to finance Hitler and would build up his military capacities.
And so it was Himmler and the SS that detained and executed Roehm and his lieutenants. They were straight.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jun 17 2016 3:02 utc | 126

@124 Les
I saw the same news at US diplomats urge Obama to strike Assad

On Thursday, the New York Times reported that more than 50 diplomats from the U.S. State Department signed an internal memo urging President Barack Obama to use force against the Syrian government of President Bashar Al-Assad.
According to the memo, these diplomats believe that military strikes against the Syrian government would deter them from violating the countryside ceasefire agreement.
The State Department signatories are calling for a “judicious use of stand-off and air weapons, which would undergird and drive a more focused and hard-nosed U.S.-led diplomatic process.”
This letter from the State Department comes just 48 hours after U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry issued a statement that expressed the U.S.’ discontent with the events taking place inside Syria.
While the U.S. State Department alleges that the Syrian government has violated the nationwide ceasefire on a number of occasions, local monitoring groups have actually reported that most of the breaches coming from the opposition forces.

The US State Department is a degenerate. impotent, wholly owned subsidiary of the War Department, staffed by Hillary’s neo-con Valkyries. Diplomats. There are no diplomats at the US State Department, probably none in the United States.

Posted by: jfl | Jun 17 2016 4:24 utc | 128

More like BRICS –> BRiCS -> bR’CS -> R CS

Posted by: Lozion | Jun 17 2016 4:41 utc | 130

…
So when you commit a broad spectrum of war crimes, payback is a bitch, ain’t it?
Posted by: rufus magister | Jun 16, 2016 7:06:55 PM | 123
Yeah yeah (yawn).
Talking about Holocaust Denial, how come we never hear Jews talking about the Jewish Boycott of Germany in 1933? I’ve watched countless docos about the Holocaust, most recently one along the lines of “I was Hitler’s Neighbor” (set, surprise surprise in 1933 – but NOT ONE WORD about the Jewish Boycott).
Read more by Googling …
Judea Declares War on Obama (Gilad Atzmon).

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 17 2016 6:17 utc | 132

The anti-russian hatred keeps on, Russia is banned from Brazil Olympics.
https://www.rt.com/sport/347108-russian-athletes-olympics-ban/

Posted by: Redz | Jun 17 2016 15:56 utc | 134

Antisemitism and Holocaust denial undermine legitimate criticism of Zionists/neocons.
The hate is unnecessary and counterproductive. Zionist hardliners prey on Jewish fears that arise from the hate. And the hate turns off non-Jews that might otherwise be receptive to criticism of Zionist hardliners and neocons.
One can argue that it should be termed the ‘Jewish Holocaust’ because the Nazi’s targets other groups as well: gays, gypsies, Slavs, etc. or because it is one of many genocides in human history. But there is no doubt that Jews were targeted and died in great number.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 17 2016 20:08 utc | 136

@138 jr, @139 lg
I suppose yours are in response to the 5 dancing shlomos? Always good to review the hamandeggs menu, ‘Common Dreams’ website traps Hasbara troll spewing anti-Semitism.
I think it was guest77 who posted the link I first saw to that sorry stream. Hope guest is OK. I just noted the appearance of the Pike Unexpurgated Report at (his?) altviewstv-fanclub

Posted by: jfl | Jun 17 2016 22:46 utc | 138

in re 136, 137
Someone has a hygiene problem, but ain’t the Hebrews…. Didn’t you forget “Christ-killing usurers”?
Let me remind you, I have already addressed the misuse of the term “antisemitism,” on Open Thread 2015-43 at 126:

Wikipedia on the etymology of the term notes that German racialists began to use it in the 1880’s to describe their views on the Jews. See the founding of the Antisemiten-Liga by German journalist Wilhelm Marr in 1880, who popularized the term . The result was that “Identification with antisemitism and as an antisemite was politically advantageous in Europe in the latter 19th century. For example, Karl Lueger, the popular mayor of fin de siècle Vienna, skillfully exploited antisemitism as a way of channeling public discontent to his political advantage.”
I found this in the references on the Wiki, Aftershock: Anti-zionism and Anti-semitism, by David Matas. “Like the Holocaust that was its result, the very existence of antisemitism has prompted those against Israel to contort and distort its meaning.”

Marr coined the term in 1879; in his later years, he renounced his views.
The insistence upon misusing this term seems a complement to Holocaust denial.
I found and read Atzmon. I’ve seen his work (at Counterpunch, if memory serves). His point that the Israelis have traded upon the Holocaust to elide responsibility for their own numerous, ongoing violations of international law is well-taken. To call it a “religion” and deny the Jews their history is absurd.
This particular piece is ludicrous. It argues that the call by European and American Jews for a boycott of Nazi Germany in March 1933 provoked the Nazis into their anti-semitic measures. No wonder you didn’t provide a link or talk much about it.

Not many people are aware that in March 1933, long before Hitler became the undisputed leader of Germany and began restricting the rights of German Jews, the American Jewish Congress announced a massive protest at Madison Square Gardens and called for an American boycott of German goods….
Jewish texts tend to glaze over the fact that Hitler’s March 28 1933, ordering a boycott against Jewish stores and goods, was an escalation in direct response to the declaration of war on Germany by the worldwide Jewish leadership.

And of course, war requires countermeasures. These escalated through various restrictions and assaults like the Nuremberg Laws and Kristallnacht.
So who opened up the hostilities?The Nazi Voter (somewhere on the shelves here) makes it clear that, while sometimes downplayed in favor of anti-Communism (“Judeo-Bolshevism”) for the benefit of the sensitive middle classes, substantial segments of the NSDAP and its voters supported it because of its open anti-semitism. As Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf, cited in the wiki on the Holocaust:

The nationalization of our masses will succeed only when, aside from all the positive struggle for the soul of our people, their international poisoners are exterminated…. If at the beginning of the War and during the War twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the people had been held under poison gas, as happened to hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers in the field, the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain.

It also reports that Hitler told a journalist of a scheme to hang Jews in the public square in Munich upon obtaining power. They’d be left there to rot, and he would proceed from city to city, repeating the process.
The Sturmabteilung had spent its street-fighting days assaulting and killing Jews, Communists, Socialists, and other opponents. So the nature of the fascists plans were clear from the start; their actions were consistent with their virulent rhetoric. To question those who fought back is… well, hardly an act of good will from the moral high ground.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jun 17 2016 23:50 utc | 140

This is an American problem … maybe just this American’s problem … but I post it here in wonder … wondering if any other American who frequents MoA has ever experienced it.
I occasionally write to my Senators and Congressman in the Great State of Texas. Today I got a plea from the EFF to do so in response to the latest outrage on the way down the pike but, having sent off my email to my Congressman, I was greeted by …

Access Denied
You don’t have permission to access “http://serve-403-NAME.www.senate.gov/” on this server.
Reference #18.afb51002.1466242248.5eefa57

Where NAME was ‘lamp’ for Cornyn and ‘cfpremium’ for Cruz.
I get the same when I access their hompages! WTF?
I wrote back to Farenthold, ‘my’ Congressman, and asked him to find out what’s up, since I have now no access to either of ‘my’ Senators. I’m not holding my breath until I hear from him.
Anyone else ever encounter this? Unbelievable.

Posted by: jfl | Jun 18 2016 9:59 utc | 142

in re 141 —
I did not omit it. I dismissed it. “To… deny the Jews their history is absurd.” And I am not asserting equivalence, I’m saying the Holocaust stands far and above any other act in modern history for its indifference to human life and dignity.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jun 18 2016 23:30 utc | 144

Can’t top industrial death. Nos. hard to match.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jun 19 2016 0:24 utc | 146

100
Hope and Chains, baby, Hope and Chains.
Black is White
War is Peace
‘Zuck is a Meathead’
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/06/18/pamela-geller-merkel-hell-bent-destroying-germany/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN6q8G5n5AA

Posted by: Roitan | Jun 19 2016 8:01 utc | 148

Pamela Geller?

Posted by: jfl | Jun 19 2016 9:45 utc | 150

The mass murder of 12 mil. in the context of a global war of aggression and revenge killing tens of millions seems hard to beat.
The Israelis intent is to obtain the submission of the Palestinians to their illegal settlements, not their extermination.
Keep on dehumanizing them, maybe you can drive them to the sea.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jun 19 2016 14:16 utc | 152

…
The Israelis intent is to obtain the submission of the Palestinians to their illegal settlements, not their extermination.
Keep on dehumanizing them, maybe you can drive them to the sea.
Posted by: rufus magister | Jun 19, 2016 10:16:08 AM | 152
What you’re describing is Living Death for Palestinians.
Guess how surprised I’m not that you’d be careless enough to put your name to such racist, supremacist claptrap?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 20 2016 5:15 utc | 154

viva okinawa
https://www.rt.com/news/347325-okinawa-protest-us-military/

Posted by: denk | Jun 20 2016 16:34 utc | 156

CNN Smartass Fareed Zakaria gets the putin treatment,’
hehehehe
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/putin-crushes-cnn-smartass-fareed-zakaria-live-audience/ri15078
p.s.
disclaimer,
im not a fan of the ‘great white hope’ trump,
trump /clinton = head i win, tail u lose !
45 war criminal potus couldnt be wrong !

Posted by: denk | Jun 21 2016 15:49 utc | 158

Nope, Merkel still loves Nato and warmongering,
https://www.rt.com/news/347699-merkel-germany-military-threats/

Posted by: Mann | Jun 22 2016 7:00 utc | 160