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June 14, 2016
Open Thread 2016-21
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Here is a little something. Posted by: jo6pac | Jun 14 2016 18:01 utc | 2 Israel is being nominated to head a UN legal committee that aims to promote international law and protect basic human rights and freedoms. Our govt & media support Israel and this appointment. Our police sometimes go there for special training. Posted by: Penelope | Jun 14 2016 18:04 utc | 3 Aldous Huxley: “all the traditional names, all the hallowed slogans will remain exactly what they were in the good old days. Democracy and freedom will be the theme of every broadcast and editorial. Meanwhile the ruling oligarchy and its highly trained elite of soldiers, policemen, thought-manufacturers and mind-manipulators will quietly run the show as they see fit.” Posted by: Penelope | Jun 14 2016 18:11 utc | 4 There exists volumes of video re the Orlando mass murder club Pulse incident and images of the surrounding area. Nowhere in sight is there even one ambulance? Same goes for Boston Marathon incident and Newtown incident. Posted by: ALberto | Jun 14 2016 18:14 utc | 5 For 3 and 4 there 2 stories here and check comments Posted by: jo6pac | Jun 14 2016 18:25 utc | 6 Whats the story about this? https://www.rt.com/news/346617-urkaine-russia-prisoners-swap/ Posted by: Rob | Jun 14 2016 18:53 utc | 7 Sami A. is a Tunisian national and lives in in Bochum, Germany. He is married with a German national and has three kids. Posted by: JCP | Jun 14 2016 19:02 utc | 8 Amarillo: SWAT team shoot and kill armed suspect who took hostage in a Wal-Mart Posted by: Terry | Jun 14 2016 19:04 utc | 9 With all of the MSM emphasis on the Pulse Massacre being the “worst shooting in US history,” it’s gonna’ be a real journalistic downer when Mateen loses the record because the evidence shows 10 or 15 of the victims were actually killed by “friendly” SWAT fire. Why don’t these people wait until they know what the facts are before they concoct idiot headlines? HuffPo is the absolute worst. A HREF=”http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2016/6/13/11420/5989″>Proof of election fraud by Clinton? Posted by: NoOneYouKnow | Jun 14 2016 19:15 utc | 11 “”Reliable intelligence sources in the West have indicated that warnings had been received that the Russian Government could in the near future release the text of email messages intercepted from U.S. Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s private e-mail server from the time she was U.S. Secretary of State. The release would, the messaging indicated, prove that Secretary Clinton had, in fact, laid open U.S. secrets to foreign interception by putting highly-classified Government reports onto a private server in violation of U.S. law, and that, as suspected, the server had been targeted and hacked by foreign intelligence services. Posted by: Terry | Jun 14 2016 19:24 utc | 12 #7 Read the article. Russia received two Ukrainian journalist who were jailed for advocating peace with Russia showing sympathy for the Donbass rebels. Posted by: ToivoS | Jun 14 2016 19:31 utc | 13 NATO to deploy troops to Romania as part of eastward expansion
Says the US’ chief military stooge in Europe as he prepares WW III there. Posted by: jfl | Jun 14 2016 20:41 utc | 14 so talking of the latest psy operation in orlando it would seem the transgender community need an apology from the gay community. Posted by: charles drake | Jun 14 2016 20:58 utc | 15 peptides are the cure for cancer Posted by: okie farmer | Jun 14 2016 21:04 utc | 16 Frankly the US election is fusing with the European issues. It’s the same question. Trump or Johnson, it’s the same thing. Posted by: Laguerre | Jun 14 2016 21:46 utc | 17 Islamic terorists benefitting enormously from escalating tensions between the West and Russia. Nice to have your two main enemies giving priority to fighting each other. Posted by: zucco | Jun 14 2016 22:26 utc | 18 cd – further to mina’s comments on the previous thread over mateen gay issue Posted by: james | Jun 14 2016 22:27 utc | 19 With the national strike today in France meant to block the neoliberal El Khomri law from taking effect (it’s currently being debated in the French Senate), I think it’s worthwhile to read a lengthy interview with Stathis Kouvelakis that appeared last month on the web site for Jacobin magazine. Posted by: Mike Maloney | Jun 14 2016 22:44 utc | 20 Democratic National Committee claims Russian Government hacked its central computer today…. Posted by: D | Jun 14 2016 23:47 utc | 21 @21- Russia releases the private server emails. NATO declares cyberspace a domain of warfare. Russia releases all the dirt on the US since WWII. Russian and Chinese special forces arrest all treasonous western leaders before they can blow up the world while escaping to underground bunkers hundreds of miles below the earth. Posted by: Nana2007 | Jun 14 2016 23:59 utc | 22 Democratic National Committee claims Russian Government hacked its central computer today…. Posted by: ALberto | Jun 15 2016 0:17 utc | 23 To Penelope@3: Good post and tracks quite well with Paul Craig Roberts’ writings for the past few days. Posted by: Macon Richardson | Jun 15 2016 0:30 utc | 24 Today the Sun newspaper, with 1.7 million readers, posted the headline “beLEAVE in Britain” with a half page article putting the arguments for a Brexit. This is a massive blow to the Libya bomber Cameron, the spineless Labour opposition and the Remain campaign. While the Sun is a nasty Murdoch rag it does have a history of correct calls on British elections going back to 1979, its influence considered by some to be so significant that Mossad man Tony Blair flew half way around the world to kneel at Rupert’s feet before the 1997 election. Posted by: Lochearn | Jun 15 2016 0:34 utc | 25 This might tell you a little about the motivation for killing our rights. Truly shocking. Posted by: Penelope | Jun 15 2016 0:58 utc | 26 Interviews with Orlando eyewitnesses who claim more than one assailant. It portrays the masses as zombies Posted by: charles drake | Jun 15 2016 1:43 utc | 28 in re 10 — Posted by: rufus magister | Jun 15 2016 2:10 utc | 29 hey rufus stufus Posted by: charles drake | Jun 15 2016 2:53 utc | 30 in re 12 —
I’ll leave aside why the hell would the Kremlin be nice and spoil the surprise with the heads up? And even if such a scheme might work; that the Russians would be seen to actually want The Donald might not play well with nationalists; well, at least outside of Rethuglican ranks. Posted by: rufus magister | Jun 15 2016 3:24 utc | 31 Back again, Lord Chuck? How’s things down on the Manor? Posted by: rufus magister | Jun 15 2016 3:26 utc | 32 Kremlin Silent On Brexit ○ Putin will be rubbing his hands at the prospect of Brexit | Opinion – Guy Verhofstadt | Is Russia still waiting for the United States to start honest dealing in Syria? If so, it’s going to be a long, long wait. Meanwhile the rebels, who were on their way out, seem to be regrouping, digging in and taking back more territory, in both Latakia and Aleppo. Looks like a lot of blood was shed for … what? Posted by: Rob Centros | Jun 15 2016 4:42 utc | 35 “Orlando gunman said he carried out attack to get ‘Americans to stop bombing his country” Posted by: ben | Jun 15 2016 4:44 utc | 36 Am I the only music lover who thinks Led Zeppelin should tell the scammers trying to screw them for $20 Million (because the intro to Stairway To Heaven has a vague resemblance to a musical phrase written by someone 3 years before Stairway To Heaven hit the charts) should grow a brain, have their ears thoroughly checked, and get a life? Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 15 2016 5:29 utc | 37 Not only do the two passages in question have non-identical tone sequences, it’s impossible to imagine that any person has ever confused one with the other. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 15 2016 5:37 utc | 38 Hoarsewhisperer @ 37, 38: Posted by: Jen | Jun 15 2016 6:22 utc | 39 jo6pac @ 6, Thanks http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/06/58403.html was great. $25,000 reward for proof of “false flag”. Posted by: Penelope | Jun 15 2016 6:31 utc | 40 Macon Richardson @ 24, You’re right LGBTs are very well organized politically. Posted by: Penelope | Jun 15 2016 6:49 utc | 41 Oui @33and 34 Posted by: ToivoS | Jun 15 2016 7:47 utc | 42 Samantha Bee: ‘Yes, I DO Want To Take Your Guns Away!” Posted by: okie farmer | Jun 15 2016 8:20 utc | 43 It is indeed quite surprising how many foreigners work for Poroshenko, is Ukraine so starved of the local talent? Recently the architect of Polish “shock therapy” from early 1990s, Leszek Balcerowicz, became an economic advisor. Some grumpy compatriots remarked that at last, this will make an effective revenge for Volhynian Massacre. Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jun 15 2016 8:55 utc | 44 Posted by: ToivoS | Jun 15, 2016 3:47:47 AM | 41 Posted by: somebody | Jun 15 2016 9:12 utc | 45 Is there a single issue that isnt blamed on Russia today by the EU? Posted by: Redz | Jun 15 2016 11:07 utc | 46 Brexit Fear Mongering – Few Pinches of Salt I don’t believe the scare mongering from all establishment institutions that brought the financial and banking crisis on the common man. EU HQ in Brussels, IMF and OSCE are by definition biased on the Brexit vote. The global stock exchanges and the British pound are under pressure as the polls indicate an edge towards the Leave vote. Oddly enough, Ladbroke still offer the advantage backing Remain with Cameron, his Tory party split in half and Corbyn with Labor. What exactly is this LGBTQ lobby doing? Where do they get their money? How come they have so much power? What is their endgame? Why? Posted by: dan | Jun 15 2016 11:41 utc | 49 Re: LGBTQ Western States Amass Forces in Syria
Germany Deploys Special Forces in Northern Syria – Reports
German Forces Have Invaded Syria, Say Govt
British troops enter Syria and Libya to ensure that war outlives ISIS
Good to see the parallels with WWII and the endlessly postponed 2nd front drawn out. Posted by: jfl | Jun 15 2016 13:43 utc | 51 From PCR on the Orlando “shooting” ” Paul Craig Roberts Posted by: Terry | Jun 15 2016 13:52 utc | 52 37;Re Spirit and Led Zep;I read they toured together in the early 70s and it is possible P&P borrowed something,but as music is derivative,its really a tempest in the teapot.I guess Spirit members need college funding for grandchildren. Posted by: dahoit | Jun 15 2016 14:22 utc | 53 http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2016/06/us-terrorism-hits-orlando-not-just-for.html#more Posted by: jo6pac | Jun 15 2016 14:23 utc | 54 Posted by: Jen | Jun 15, 2016 2:22:28 AM | 39 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 15 2016 14:35 utc | 55 1.
Thank you. Finally, someone’s got their freakin’ facts right on the Pulse cluster fuck. Now I understand it completely. The chickens and rabbits observation was particularly helpful and relevant. Posted by: Denis | Jun 15 2016 14:42 utc | 56 3 Posted by: Uk Tahder | Jun 15 2016 14:42 utc | 57 Did you know … Posted by: ALberto | Jun 15 2016 14:57 utc | 59 48 Posted by: charles drake | Jun 15 2016 14:58 utc | 60 jfl Posted by: Redz | Jun 15 2016 15:01 utc | 61 @Penelope, 3 Posted by: bored muslim | Jun 15 2016 15:33 utc | 62 @48, Dan, Posted by: bored muslim | Jun 15 2016 15:55 utc | 63 @58, Alberto Posted by: bored muslim | Jun 15 2016 16:02 utc | 64 Escalation : Putin has issued orders for ‘across the board’ snap drills of the Russian military to test for combat readiness and actual deployment scenarios; due to a second U.S Aircraft Carrier group entering the Mediterranean. Posted by: bored muslim | Jun 15 2016 16:12 utc | 65 Toland’s “Adolf Hitler” is also an excellent read. Posted by: ALberto | Jun 15 2016 16:18 utc | 66 Orlando. Imho the Boston B. was a managed crisis event, read, nothing against Conspiracy theorists. Posted by: Noirette | Jun 15 2016 16:20 utc | 67 Interesting read,feel free to broaden your horizons : Posted by: bored muslim | Jun 15 2016 16:52 utc | 68 @ Alberto, 65 Posted by: bored muslim | Jun 15 2016 16:55 utc | 69 “Orlando gunman said he carried out attack to get ‘Americans to stop bombing his country” Posted by: charles drake | Jun 15 2016 17:01 utc | 70 rufus @ 31. Thx for the ISSA link – another major in transforming global governance (to the NWO). Sorcha Faal is of course always total disinfo. Posted by: Penelope | Jun 15 2016 18:31 utc | 71 Oui @ 33, Toivos @ 41, While the Guardian, etc is trying to spin it that Putin is for Brexit, he earlier commented he was against it (Can’t find clip, sorry), just as he was against Grexit. He wants to JOIN EU, not disolve it: Posted by: Penelope | Jun 15 2016 18:32 utc | 72 Bored Muslim @ 62, “The Gay/Bi/T community are actively supported by Israel. That’s right, the U.S. tax payer worth billions that Israel receives from the U.S. funds this movement. Also Jewish American – Israeli dual citizens(wealthy ones) fund them and also said finances also actively support the no more guns lobby.” Posted by: Penelope | Jun 15 2016 18:34 utc | 73 Thanks, Denis @ 56, “Fruit of the loom” made me giggle – what a sorry-looking lot, eh? Wasn’t me that figured out the other motive. You must see LifttheVeil411 on the San Bernardino hoax. Guy’s a wizard. I missed ALL that stuff & so did everyone else – spread the word. Regards. Posted by: Penelope | Jun 15 2016 18:39 utc | 74 charles drake @70 Posted by: ALAN | Jun 15 2016 19:06 utc | 75 Geee what is going on these days? Posted by: RainToh | Jun 15 2016 19:18 utc | 76 Part of the way incitation of so-called ‘lone wolves’ works out is precisely by the details and new ideas given by the MSM on what to do next. The French radio speaks of the books that were in the French guy’s car with providing titles, explaining it is the al Qaeda book on how to make explosives, or mention further risks (demos, football, special event) as if they were just cooking the next recipes. You don’t even need actual recruiters in the digital age. (Embedded?) journalists do the job perfectly. Posted by: Mina | Jun 15 2016 19:23 utc | 77 64 Posted by: charles drake | Jun 15 2016 19:32 utc | 78 75 Posted by: charles drake | Jun 15 2016 19:43 utc | 79 a story of islam or the talmud Posted by: charles drake | Jun 15 2016 20:05 utc | 80 emptywheel… – Why Did FBI’s Multiple Informants Fail to Catch Omar Mateen in a Sting? Posted by: james | Jun 15 2016 20:15 utc | 81 80 james Posted by: charles drake | Jun 15 2016 20:23 utc | 82 look up other losses and crimes and mercies. Posted by: bored muslim | Jun 15 2016 21:01 utc | 83 bored muslim@82- why sully their names with the noble prize? Which Joyce, the guy who wrote Ulysses, didn’t win. And in Ezra’s defense he was looking for patronage to create his priesthood of the arts or something, another batshit crazy idea which some nazi wizard must have found intriguing. Posted by: Nana2007 | Jun 15 2016 21:21 utc | 84 @81 cd… you are saying the same thing over and over.. g4s/wakenhut has been repeated since day 1..am i supposed to jump or something? you are a weird dude.. Posted by: james | Jun 15 2016 21:29 utc | 85 I’m going to go on a little rant here. Posted by: bored muslim | Jun 15 2016 21:30 utc | 86 On another topic, since this is a free for all, Posted by: CarlD | Jun 15 2016 21:37 utc | 87 On the Allied bombing of Germany, this veteran of the U.S. Air Force found Jörg Friedrich’s Das Feuer [The Fire] an extremely disturbing book. Posted by: lysias | Jun 15 2016 22:39 utc | 88 I read it in German, so I undoubtedly failed to understand some of the grisly details, but what I did understand was quite horrifying enough. And the book is now out in English translation, for those who prefer to read it in that language. I bought the translation, but I had been so disturbed by the German original that I couldn’t bring myself to read it again. I suppose I will get around to it some day. Posted by: lysias | Jun 15 2016 22:42 utc | 89 A radical, gay muslim,whos dad believes he is the president of afghanistan was part of cia operation cyclone with his own state dept funded tv show Posted by: charles drake | Jun 15 2016 22:44 utc | 90 UkTahder@57 Is that you Chip? Not getting any better is it? Posted by: Midan | Jun 15 2016 23:02 utc | 91 Downfall [Der Untergang] was directed by Oliver Hirschbiegel, not Wolfgang Peterson. Posted by: lysias | Jun 15 2016 23:03 utc | 92 Interesting view on the Justice Against State Sponsors of Terrorism Act (JASTA) and Reciprocity by William Dodge, a law professor at UCDavis as published in JustSecurity. Posted by: PavewayIV | Jun 15 2016 23:54 utc | 93 lysias @87 Posted by: ALberto | Jun 16 2016 0:17 utc | 94 Don’t complain about the brutality of firebombing Dresden after you’ve built Buchenwald and Auschwitz. Posted by: rufus magister | Jun 16 2016 0:52 utc | 95 93 Posted by: menechem golani | Jun 16 2016 1:10 utc | 96 We OUGHT to act in such a way that what IS true can be verified to be so. Posted by: fats domino | Jun 16 2016 1:35 utc | 97 German general calls for new tanks against Russia
The US is in Europe. The Russians are out. But the Germans ain’t down. Like the South, Deutschland shall rise again!? And the Japanese sun is rising again in East Asia. Posted by: jfl | Jun 16 2016 1:44 utc | 98 ISIS-linked operative murders police commander and his wife near Paris
This stuff has been happening everyday for the past five years in Syria. The perpetrators – the USA, EU, Turkey, UK, FR, the KSA, the GCC – are well-known to everyone with a pulse who still draws breath and walks the earth. Posted by: jfl | Jun 16 2016 2:06 utc | 99 Opposition mounts to French labor law in new national day of action
Where there’s life in the streets there’s hope. Posted by: jfl | Jun 16 2016 2:10 utc | 100 |
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