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May 11, 2016
Open Thread (NOT U.S. Election) 2016-18
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@1 Posted by: Ken Nari | May 11 2016 18:34 utc | 2 sadr city – poorer suburb of baghdad – constantly being on the receiving end of car bombs and suicide bombers – another one today – 70 odd dead and many more wounded.. when does this shit stop? media is calling it sectarian violence but it seems to me this is a one way street for the most part – wahabbi types murdering shia cause they consider them heretics.. i wonder when the world addresses this perverse sickness called wahabbism? Posted by: james | May 11 2016 19:42 utc | 4 James at #4 – Certainly the Wahabbi violence against Shia and basically everyone else who doesn’t follow a narrow, violent, and racist perversion of Islam is horrible. However, we do need to keep in mind the Shia-led ethnic cleansing that followed the US invasion of Iraq, displacing whole Sunni communities as well disrupting their ability to continue to make a living at their old jobs (especially true for anyone who worked in the government, military, education, etc.). Without the violence, ethnic cleansing, and economic devastation, there would not be fertile ground for the vileness of Wahabbism to spread from its roots in Saudi Arabia. The US invasions of Iraq and Libya, followed by the imprisonment of thousands of Sunnis, gave rise to Daesh and its kin, and Daesh has been fostered by many hands from the Gulf States and Turkey as well. But until non-sectarian opportunities exist for all, Wahabbism will likely continue to be a factor. I think this would be true even if its external support was removed–although that would hugely reduce its influence. Posted by: WorldBLee | May 11 2016 19:54 utc | 5 @5 worldblee.. that is true regarding shai led ethnic cleansing following the us invasion of iraq.. one could argue the usa (and others) have tried to cultivate ethnic conflict in the region and i think that would be true too.. i see go back to some of these supposed followers of mohammad are not playing with a full deck.. anyone who thinks murdering another person has anything to do with religion may as well move back to the dark ages.. of course this is just what some of the ‘fundamentalist’/’puritanical’ followers best represented by ‘isis’ and associated with ‘wahabbism’ or ‘salafism’ are wanting to do.. stone folks back to the 800’s in the golden age of mohammad when chopping off body parts for a perceived or actual wrong was the way it was done.. there is nothing religious about any of it.. ‘insane’ death cult is more like it.. Posted by: james | May 11 2016 23:23 utc | 6 Russia equivocates in Syria, Iran is confused and al-Qaeda takes the initiative Posted by: Jack Smith | May 11 2016 23:37 utc | 7 @7 js.. thanks for the link to Elijah J M’s latest article.. i tend to like what he has to say, but he seems pretty dark and negative on russia’s position – ‘sinking in the diplomacy realm’ quagmire while the rebels re-tool for a better onslaught.. he might be right.. i tend to think russia is doing the best it can given the deceptive nature of all the players gathered together to either get rid of assad or have an isis caliphate in syria.. with such a wide collection of maniacs pushing for greater madness in syria – apparently iraq and libya are not enough – it is hard to know just what russia’s back up plan is here, but i suspect they have one or two anyway… Posted by: james | May 12 2016 0:31 utc | 8 @6 james, ‘still doesn’t count~! they are a part of the same ”’moderate”’ opposition that the usa/west and etc are peddling’
The USA and its stooges (good to see UK, Fr, and Uk all on the same line, where they belong) show solidarity with the head choppers. How much longer can this endure? Posted by: jfl | May 12 2016 0:41 utc | 9 Moscow, Kiev agree on Ukraine demilitarized zone, well I’ll believe it when I see it. But seeing Moscow and Kiev on the same line is heartening. With a German, rather than an American, in between. Posted by: jfl | May 12 2016 0:56 utc | 10 The Afghans, Iraqis, Syrians, Libyans, Ukrainians, Yemenis … have learned. Posted by: jfl | May 12 2016 0:58 utc | 11 @9 jfl.. yes – that first link of mine @6 from the us state spokesperson was in response to being asked about the content of your @9 post! you ought to see how she wiggles around that landmine.. Posted by: james | May 12 2016 1:45 utc | 12 I KNEW there was something wrong w that whole BP story when they wrecked the Gulf of Mexico as a fine food supply. A great piece of investigative journalism here. Details the financial moves which revealed advance knowledge. I’ve no opinion on the UN business. Posted by: Penelope | May 12 2016 5:22 utc | 13 A TRIBUTE TO RADICAL HUMAN RIGHTS LAWYER Michael Ratner RIP Posted by: Jack Smith | May 12 2016 7:09 utc | 14 GLOCAL – (“reflecting or characterized by both local and global considerations”) Posted by: x | May 12 2016 7:33 utc | 16 Documentary re Shaddadi in northern Syria, liberated by the YPG. Posted by: Anon12May | May 12 2016 9:12 utc | 17 must see Posted by: Mina | May 12 2016 12:08 utc | 18 @7 Posted by: Harry | May 12 2016 14:22 utc | 19 14;Yes Ratner was a noble Jew,too bad he was an anomaly among his fellow religionists. Posted by: dahoit | May 12 2016 14:34 utc | 20 Sorry if this is old news, Janes reporting a new Russian base at Palmyra: Posted by: wwinsti | May 12 2016 14:42 utc | 21 The Israel Lobby and the European Union: Posted by: Gesine Hammerling | May 12 2016 18:45 utc | 22 @7, 8, 19 Posted by: jeanv | May 12 2016 20:55 utc | 23 So here are two takes on what is happening in Brazil. Posted by: psychohistorian | May 12 2016 21:23 utc | 24 @19 harry and @23 jeanv. Posted by: james | May 12 2016 22:22 utc | 25 what looks like the largest death toll in syria to date – read about it here or Posted by: james | May 12 2016 22:45 utc | 26 @26 – largest single death toll to date – this year.. neglected to qualify it.. Posted by: james | May 12 2016 22:46 utc | 27 @26 Didn’t Charles Lister just ask them to keep the massacres down a bit? Or was that some other moderate group? Posted by: dh | May 13 2016 0:20 utc | 28 @28 dh.. this is the same group russia asked the un the other day to define as a terrorist group, that the west under the leadership of the usa vetoed… listen to the us state spokesperson addressing the issue of Ahrar ash-Sham and whether they are a ”terrorist” group just yesterday.. apparently they are ”’moderate”’.. the usa doesn’t fucking get it.. alternatively all of their public bullshite is meant only for public consumption propaganda purposes only… the reality speaks 180% their publicly broadcast bullshite… thank you matt lee for raising the question.. thank you usa spokepeople for trying to put on a good face for such a monstrous country given over to war on others 24/7… Posted by: james | May 13 2016 0:39 utc | 29 @29 Ah yes. The Russian resolution got slammed. Apparently it interfered with efforts to find a peaceful solution. Posted by: dh | May 13 2016 0:50 utc | 30 @30 dh… one quickly comes to the conclusion the usa is a lying sack of shit.. Posted by: james | May 13 2016 2:53 utc | 31 gotta love mooser at mondoweiss. i used to follow the site more closer a number of years ago.. Posted by: james | May 13 2016 3:11 utc | 32 i agree with harry laws comment – another poster who visits moa Posted by: james | May 13 2016 3:16 utc | 33 Long before the color revolution erupted, the narrative had been hijacked. Posted by: Grieved | May 13 2016 4:39 utc | 34 here is a link to the article grieved cites… good article… casts a pale light on the charles lister’s and sohr type propaganda dispensaries while articulating a viewpoint lost on many in the west.. Posted by: james | May 13 2016 4:58 utc | 35 Here are a couple of interesting links. Posted by: psychohistorian | May 13 2016 5:51 utc | 36 http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/05/13/465295/Israel-Hezbollah-Syria-Lebanon-Damascus Posted by: Deebo | May 13 2016 10:04 utc | 37 32;Yeah,Mooser is self deprecating and on point in many of his posts.A righteous Jew. Posted by: dahoit | May 13 2016 14:04 utc | 38 @36 deebo – i was saying publicly months ago that things will heat up towards the end of summer.. that is astro based.. i hope i am wrong too.. glad to see b covering the content from a number of my posts on this open thread today in a new post.. Posted by: james | May 13 2016 15:28 utc | 40 a friendly reminder, fukus practically hogs the entire chart of top 100 bs of the century. Posted by: denk | May 13 2016 17:07 utc | 41 at nmb @ 1. The Hollande Gvmt.’s use of article 49.3 (to jam a law in by decree) has provoked two censure motions – which if voted in by the majority of deputés – causes the Gvmt. to fall. Posted by: Noirette | May 13 2016 21:57 utc | 42 @42 noirette Posted by: jfl | May 14 2016 0:57 utc | 43 jfl, I think no hope. The main problem as I see it is that the ‘frondeurs’ (left-er part of Socialists) who while some may be sincere even likeable ppl, as a group do nothing. They are involved in a kind of internal psychodrama of rifts, alliances, positions, and so on. They could bring the Gvmt down (they would have a lot of popular support) I reckon, but won’t do it, as they are part of the ruling clique. None of them wants to rock that boat… It is all very similar to the left wing of Syriza and Tsipras as ‘traitor.’ The more I think about it, same story, but flavored Camembert instead of Feta. Posted by: Noirette | May 14 2016 14:00 utc | 44 what an oxymoron ! Posted by: denk | May 14 2016 15:05 utc | 45 Davutoglu vs. Erdogan: Who Has Lost?
I read stuff like this and wonder if these authors and I are living on the same planet. The US loves madmen and chaos, and the ME is the perfect place for ’em as far as their mentors in Israel are concerned. The EU, Angela Merkel, crawls before Erdogan on her hands and knees, imprisons Germans – well, charges them – who dare to point out the sultan has no clothes. Posted by: jfl | May 15 2016 12:57 utc | 46 way to go, iran… Posted by: denk | May 16 2016 1:40 utc | 47 Heartening news from South America …
Posted by: jfl | May 16 2016 9:49 utc | 48 Saudi Arabia to launch new surveillance center: Report
Think any of the 1600 are Americans? Do bears shit in the woods? Do mercenaries shit in the dessert? Posted by: jfl | May 16 2016 9:55 utc | 49 Barack Obama and a quarter-century of US wars
If it’s wrestling its Professional Wrestling, American style.
Posted by: jfl | May 16 2016 11:02 utc | 50 murkka the shit stirrer. Posted by: denk | May 16 2016 15:47 utc | 51
Things are looking drear indeed. ‘Activists’ disavow an ‘outcome’ orientation. Stick to the right path because it is the right path, not because it is the way out of the woods. Posted by: jfl | May 16 2016 22:59 utc | 52 This is what’s been going on, what constitutes the most immediate challenge before us …
… yet we no longer hear, nor see, anything like what was said and done in the ‘bad old days’, when aggressive wars were fought sequentially, one by one ? …
Posted by: jfl | May 17 2016 0:07 utc | 53 52 Posted by: denk | May 17 2016 3:36 utc | 54 World powers approve arms for Libya’s new government
U.S. backs arming new Libyan government to fight Islamic State
US, Allies to Start Arming Libya’s ‘Unity Govt’
More death, devastation, and destruction from the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate / Professional Wrestler / POTUS. Posted by: jfl | May 17 2016 6:26 utc | 55 the shit stirrer never sleeps …… Posted by: denk | May 17 2016 16:28 utc | 56 Israel to release Duma arsonist from prison
‘Heh! We’re not as bad as Hitler!’ murkkan Posted by: denk | May 19 2016 2:12 utc | 58 robert neller, commander marine corp Posted by: denk | May 19 2016 3:45 utc | 59 Susette in answer to your comment 31 on the International Policy on Libya thread, There is much documentation to substantiate the ill effects of GMOs, I agree. Posted by: Penelope | May 19 2016 6:28 utc | 60 I guess Haitham Abu Said will be getting his pink-slip from the UN soon ?…
… talking like that about the UN/US/EU’s favorite terrorists will probably ruffle some feathers, nailing KSA and Jordan is like nailing the USA itself. Posted by: jfl | May 19, 2016 8:02:59 AM | 61 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 19 2016 16:04 utc | 62 In case you’re wondering why pres-elect Duterte of the Philippines is getting so much bad press in the West: “trigger-happy” “violent”, “sexist” “yaddida yaddida” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qFaomaWDf0 Posted by: ruralito | May 19 2016 16:58 utc | 63 Erdogan applies ‘the Armenian solution’ to the Kurds, in Turkey and out …
No problem for NATO …
… Erdogan is WWIII in motion. Posted by: jfl | May 20 2016 4:22 utc | 64 NATO genocide …
Move along. Nothing to see here. Looks just like the work of the UN/US/EU/KSA/Turkish-supported killers and goons in Syria. More NATO aggression in Syria and Iraq … terrorism in ph….MADE IN USA. Posted by: denk | May 20 2016 15:34 utc | 67 over at okinawa, another rape cum murder .. Posted by: denk | May 20 2016 15:50 utc | 68 |
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