Open Thread (NOT U.S. Election) 2016-18
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Posted by b on May 11, 2016 at 17:50 UTC | Permalink
@1
What it would take to get Americans out on the streets? Yet for some reason most Americans think they're tough and freedom-loving and the French are neither.
Saw a photo of demonstrations in Athens, where things have gone from awful to worse in the last couple of days. Way in the background there was some graffiti on a wall that said: "Your couch, your complicity."
In much of the West couches are still way too comfortable.
Posted by: Ken Nari | May 11 2016 18:34 utc | 2
sadr city - poorer suburb of baghdad - constantly being on the receiving end of car bombs and suicide bombers - another one today - 70 odd dead and many more wounded.. when does this shit stop? media is calling it sectarian violence but it seems to me this is a one way street for the most part - wahabbi types murdering shia cause they consider them heretics.. i wonder when the world addresses this perverse sickness called wahabbism?
Posted by: james | May 11 2016 19:42 utc | 4
James at #4 - Certainly the Wahabbi violence against Shia and basically everyone else who doesn't follow a narrow, violent, and racist perversion of Islam is horrible. However, we do need to keep in mind the Shia-led ethnic cleansing that followed the US invasion of Iraq, displacing whole Sunni communities as well disrupting their ability to continue to make a living at their old jobs (especially true for anyone who worked in the government, military, education, etc.). Without the violence, ethnic cleansing, and economic devastation, there would not be fertile ground for the vileness of Wahabbism to spread from its roots in Saudi Arabia. The US invasions of Iraq and Libya, followed by the imprisonment of thousands of Sunnis, gave rise to Daesh and its kin, and Daesh has been fostered by many hands from the Gulf States and Turkey as well. But until non-sectarian opportunities exist for all, Wahabbism will likely continue to be a factor. I think this would be true even if its external support was removed--although that would hugely reduce its influence.
Posted by: WorldBLee | May 11 2016 19:54 utc | 5
@5 worldblee.. that is true regarding shai led ethnic cleansing following the us invasion of iraq.. one could argue the usa (and others) have tried to cultivate ethnic conflict in the region and i think that would be true too.. i see go back to some of these supposed followers of mohammad are not playing with a full deck.. anyone who thinks murdering another person has anything to do with religion may as well move back to the dark ages.. of course this is just what some of the 'fundamentalist'/'puritanical' followers best represented by 'isis' and associated with 'wahabbism' or 'salafism' are wanting to do.. stone folks back to the 800's in the golden age of mohammad when chopping off body parts for a perceived or actual wrong was the way it was done.. there is nothing religious about any of it.. 'insane' death cult is more like it..
speaking of which : Elizabeth Trudeau, Director of Press Relations - U.S. Department of State - Daily Briefing: May.11.2016 on on the topic - "Are Jaysh al-Islam & Ahrar al-Sham the same as al-Nusra? according to the usa at this time, they are not, in spite of Jaysh al-Islam identifying with salafism ( same as ISIS), using human shields and etc - they are still a part of the ''moderate'' team usa/saudi arabia/turkey..
as for Ahrar al-Sham "according to US intelligence officials, a few al-Qaeda members released from prisons by the Syrian government have been able to influence actions of the group, and install operatives within the senior ranks of Ahrar ash-Sham." still doesn't count~! they are a part of the same '''moderate''' opposition that the usa/west and etc are peddling to anyone stupid enough to believe a word of it.. obviously the usa has a clear agenda here and are willing to use whoever they can to get the 'regime' change they have been hell bent on for however long..
what a bunch of bullshite artists..
Posted by: james | May 11 2016 23:23 utc | 6
Russia equivocates in Syria, Iran is confused and al-Qaeda takes the initiative
The Damascus and Moscow alliance faced with the cooperation of the Middle Eastern regional countries and the United States in Syria is failing at the moment. Al-Qaeda in al-Sham (Jabhat al-Nusra) although excluded from the Cease-fire, grabbed the initiative on the ground and counter attacked south of Aleppo with many allies: Ahrar al-Sham, Jund al-Aqsa, Jaish al-Sunnah and the Turkestan forces (all not excluded from the Cease-fire) fighting within the ranks of Jaish al-Fateh, the “army of conquest,” which includes more jihadist organizations and others more moderate.
Read entire articlePosted by: Jack Smith | May 11 2016 23:37 utc | 7
@7 js.. thanks for the link to Elijah J M's latest article.. i tend to like what he has to say, but he seems pretty dark and negative on russia's position - 'sinking in the diplomacy realm' quagmire while the rebels re-tool for a better onslaught.. he might be right.. i tend to think russia is doing the best it can given the deceptive nature of all the players gathered together to either get rid of assad or have an isis caliphate in syria.. with such a wide collection of maniacs pushing for greater madness in syria - apparently iraq and libya are not enough - it is hard to know just what russia's back up plan is here, but i suspect they have one or two anyway...
Posted by: james | May 12 2016 0:31 utc | 8
@6 james, 'still doesn't count~! they are a part of the same '''moderate''' opposition that the usa/west and etc are peddling'
UK, US, France block Russia’s bid to blacklist Syria militant groups
Britain, France, the United States and Ukraine have reportedly blocked Russia’s request to add two Syrian militant groups to a UN terror blacklist and sideline them from the Syrian peace process.The four members of the UN Security Council on Tuesday blocked Russia’s request that the so-called Jaysh al-Islam (Army of Islam) and Ahrar al-Sham terrorist groups be added to the sanctions list for their ties to al-Qaeda and Daesh militant groups.
The USA and its stooges (good to see UK, Fr, and Uk all on the same line, where they belong) show solidarity with the head choppers. How much longer can this endure?
Posted by: jfl | May 12 2016 0:41 utc | 9
Moscow, Kiev agree on Ukraine demilitarized zone, well I'll believe it when I see it. But seeing Moscow and Kiev on the same line is heartening. With a German, rather than an American, in between.
I think it the long run that Putin's 'let them have their wish' strategy is going to prevail. Ukraine will be a mess, but that's what they wished for with their eyes tight shut, and the "West" will want nothing to do with Ukraine other than to buy the pieces at bargain basement prices. Ukraine's only real choice will be the natural one : Russia.
It's a pity the US/EU have put the poor Ukrainians of all stripes through hell, all for what was at best a crap-shoot. Not a neo-con problem, on to the next gathering of the floating crap-game. Do we think that anyone will learn what absolute poison the US/EU are?
The Syrians and Libyans surely have learned ... I guess the question ought to be : Do we think that everyone will have finally learned what absolute poison the US/EU are?
Posted by: jfl | May 12 2016 0:56 utc | 10
The Afghans, Iraqis, Syrians, Libyans, Ukrainians, Yemenis ... have learned.
Posted by: jfl | May 12 2016 0:58 utc | 11
@9 jfl.. yes - that first link of mine @6 from the us state spokesperson was in response to being asked about the content of your @9 post! you ought to see how she wiggles around that landmine..
Posted by: james | May 12 2016 1:45 utc | 12
I KNEW there was something wrong w that whole BP story when they wrecked the Gulf of Mexico as a fine food supply. A great piece of investigative journalism here. Details the financial moves which revealed advance knowledge. I've no opinion on the UN business.
Posted by: Penelope | May 12 2016 5:22 utc | 13
A TRIBUTE TO RADICAL HUMAN RIGHTS LAWYER
Michael Ratner RIPMichael Ratner (1943 – May 11, 2016) was an attorney, President Emeritus of the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR), a non-profit human rights litigation organization based in New York City, and president of the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights (ECCHR), based in Berlin.
Posted by: Jack Smith | May 12 2016 7:09 utc | 14
GLOCAL – (“reflecting or characterized by both local and global considerations”)
Part of the resistance is to work and focus on local events which are usually found to be connected by some outside ‘shadow’ system as in ‘that man behind the curtain’.
Please meet UK’s Mr Graham Edwards, CEO of Telereal Trillium (a large outfit striving to maintain a good PR image - www.linkedin.com/company/telerealtrillium) who, behind the scenes, has an interesting network of off-shore accounts and an ‘invisible’ house address in NZ. There's been at least one bloody murder (possibly 4) in SE Africa related to his 'hidden' ventures via an Australian mining company chasing titanium (the other white powder). See how it’s done behind the curtains today (chart included). He’s not unique and an all too common type it seems. Any other links to Mr Edwards’ vulture capitalism intrigue will be much appreciated.
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“Curiosity over UK property owner’s links to Xolobeni” (By Mike Loewe on May 10, 2016)
“Curiosity is growing over the emergence of London property and mining financier Graham Edwards as a role player in the violence-wracked attempt to mine at Xolobeni.
Last week, international anti-mining campaigners publicly accused Edwards of being the financial muscle behind MRC, the Australian-led mining company and its BEE partners Xolco and Blue Bantry.
They called on Edwards to divest from MRC, which is involved in a vicious struggle with the anti-mining Amadiba Crisis Committee (ACC) that claims majority support in Xolobeni.
ACC and its national and international network of supporters are stating that four anti-mining members of the Xolobeni community have died in the conflict.
On Facebook last week Edwards challenged his detractors to supply the police with any information they possessed.
Yesterday, Edwards, who is CEO of major UK property corporation, Telereal Trillium, with head offices in smart 140 London Wall, replied briefly to Dispatch questions about his shareholdings in MRC.
He used public relations heavyweight Jonathan Hawker, of Slate Campaigns, to reply: “Thanks for your e-mail to my client, Graham Edwards. I can confirm his total interest in MRC is less than 25%.”
But London-based Kingston University economics and social research associate professor, Andy Higginbottom, author of the report “Follow the money – from Pondoland to London Wall”, accused Edwards of owning more of MRC.
Higginbottom questioned the secret identity of the three next largest shareholders in MRC.
These were the “blind nominee shareholders” represented by banks Citicorp (16.7%), JP Morgan (14.5%), and HSBC (10.1%).
“Following the money to a front company and investment trust reveals that Edwards is indeed not only the biggest beneficiary of MRC shareholdings, but has major interests in several other mining companies.”
Using blind nominee shareholdings was part of Edwards’ strategy of complex “financial engineering”, wrote Higginbottom. He said he traced two blind nominee shareholders in a major mining international investment company, D&A Income, registered in the “UK’s very own tax haven” of Jersey, directly to Edwards.
Higginbottom dug out a quote from a financial report produced by DMCI Holdings, a consortium partner of D&A Income, which stated that D&A Income was “an investment company owned by a trust of which the principal beneficiary is Graham Edwards, chief executive of Telereal Trillium, which is one of the UK’s largest property companies”.
Yet, D&A’s annual returns revealed only that its shares were held in trust by two accounts at HSBC bank. These were “exactly the kind of blind trusts that would show up as HSBC nominees on shareholder records like MRC’s,” said Higginbottom.
He also unravelled Edwards’ ownership of AU Mining, which is registered in the British Virgin Islands and has a Wellington, New Zealand address.
He did this by unearthing a document lodged with the Australian stock exchange which stated that Edwards was the sole director and beneficial owner of AU Mining. ([email protected])”
www.dispatchlive.co.za/news/curiosity-over-uk-property-owners-links-to-xolobeni/
Other related links if any interest etc.
www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/mining-and-murder-in-south-africa/7335796
www.smh.com.au/business/mining-and-resources/perth-miner-caught-up-in-stoush-over-south-africa-cultural-site-20150712-giahfx.html
Posted by: x | May 12 2016 7:33 utc | 16
Documentary re Shaddadi in northern Syria, liberated by the YPG.
Grim scene near start, but afterwards not so bad.
Very watchable.
Absolutely overwhelming damning evidence of Turkey's support of ISIS.
Should be more widely seen.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WOERUP9miZ4
Posted by: Anon12May | May 12 2016 9:12 utc | 17
must see
https://www.rt.com/news/342707-isis-tunnels-bunkers-syria/
Posted by: Mina | May 12 2016 12:08 utc | 18
@7
Russia cares about its interests only, realpolitics at the core is quite comparable to US'. Yes Syria was screwed in recent ceasefire, so were Donbass people before that. If Russia is willing to sacrifice Russian civilians in Ukraine, why they wouldnt Syrians? Russia cant allow either of them to fall, but doesnt allow them to win either.
Its about long term big-picture realpolitics IMO. Russia tries to appease US as much as it can (without bending to its will) to ease off superpower's exit, to avoid direct confrontation and to spend as little resources as they can.
Speaking of longer term Syria's situation, Russia's (near) exit and stopping Syria's offensive will by default extend war indefinitely, and with Hezbollah and Iran reducing their manpower in battlefields, some (if not a lot) of regained territory will be lost.
Syria is heading for de-facto partitioning, US' plan all along, and Russia is on board too (still negotiating terms it seems). Just remember how Churkin was attacking Assad for desire to reclaim all of Syria , so we know now what Russia's position is. Syria and Iran are furious, but Russia is who it is - stabbing alies in the back when its suits its goals.
Posted by: Harry | May 12 2016 14:22 utc | 19
14;Yes Ratner was a noble Jew,too bad he was an anomaly among his fellow religionists.
He also was a DNA pioneer,and had long term prisoners released.
KSM;Evidence destroyed by the govts judge,in collusion with prosecutors.
Another can of worms.
Lehman says Saudi govt. were complicit in 9-11.
And yeah,will Russia release the hell bitches Emails?Actually it might help her,as then they could accuse Russia of election interference.
Posted by: dahoit | May 12 2016 14:34 utc | 20
Sorry if this is old news, Janes reporting a new Russian base at Palmyra:
http://www.janes.com/article/60102/russia-sets-up-palmyra-base
Posted by: wwinsti | May 12 2016 14:42 utc | 21
The Israel Lobby and the European Union:
http://europalforum.org.uk/en/uploads/upload_center/kH1JNtI1qm1q.pdf
Posted by: Gesine Hammerling | May 12 2016 18:45 utc | 22
@7, 8, 19
When I read that Elijah J article yesterday I was puzzled, but at the same time I can see clearly that things are changing on the front lines (following Al Masdar) since Russia par withdrawal. It's clear that Nusra and friends are making progress. I can understand Moscow's realpolitik up to a certain point, but after reading this article from Engdahl, http://journal-neo.org/2016/05/04/putin-plays-energy-chess-with-netanyahu/ I was flaggerblasted. Taking this perspective into account, it might explain that partial withdrawal of russian forces in Syria. Even if I can't believe my eyes of such a deal between Putin and Nethanyahoo, it would be a win-win solution for both: Russia would be back on the international scene with a vengeance, and Bibi would be too happy to stab Obama in the back.
Posted by: jeanv | May 12 2016 20:55 utc | 23
So here are two takes on what is happening in Brazil.
My $0.02 is that the global plutocrats are doing a "good job" of ongoing Shock Doctrine" treatment of South America. It is sad and is being further manipulated by the MSM as a failure of socialism/communism/ anything but the capitalism myth of private finance.
Posted by: psychohistorian | May 12 2016 21:23 utc | 24
@19 harry and @23 jeanv.
thanks for the article jeanv.. the geo-politics are complicated.. coming to a firm viewpoint on it when it's in a state of flux is foolish.. this has been my difficulty in accepting the many theories and implications of russia's ever changing approach to syria... the dynamic reminds me of playing chess on a high level.. one might think they know the next move, but chess masters are looking 5 or 6 moves beyond that.. i am reminded of sanjit ray who created a good film which also happened to highlight some of the different rules as played traditionally verses the sped up version introduced by britian - the chess players... at any rate, i think the situation is in a state of fluid flux and while we can speculate on how this will play out, i think it is too early to tell.. and, i think because it is very fluid - it can change very quickly. this is why i tend to downplay harrys analysis @19.
on a related note - 3 minute video from usa state dept rep e. trudeau - US opposes sale defensive missile system to Iran. 10 May 2016 how does that tie into all this? i have too many questions to form a strong view/opinion on russia or the usa's actions here.. well, i have opinions, but so does everyone else - more or less informed or not..
Posted by: james | May 12 2016 22:22 utc | 25
what looks like the largest death toll in syria to date - read about it here or
here .. depressing to say the least and the uk/usa/sa/turkey etc. etc. continue to pour what military gear and money they can into it to help feed this monster..
Posted by: james | May 12 2016 22:45 utc | 26
@26 - largest single death toll to date - this year.. neglected to qualify it..
Posted by: james | May 12 2016 22:46 utc | 27
@26 Didn't Charles Lister just ask them to keep the massacres down a bit? Or was that some other moderate group?
Posted by: dh | May 13 2016 0:20 utc | 28
@28 dh.. this is the same group russia asked the un the other day to define as a terrorist group, that the west under the leadership of the usa vetoed... listen to the us state spokesperson addressing the issue of Ahrar ash-Sham and whether they are a ''terrorist'' group just yesterday.. apparently they are '''moderate'''.. the usa doesn't fucking get it.. alternatively all of their public bullshite is meant only for public consumption propaganda purposes only... the reality speaks 180% their publicly broadcast bullshite... thank you matt lee for raising the question.. thank you usa spokepeople for trying to put on a good face for such a monstrous country given over to war on others 24/7...
Posted by: james | May 13 2016 0:39 utc | 29
@29 Ah yes. The Russian resolution got slammed. Apparently it interfered with efforts to find a peaceful solution.
“Russia publicly attempting to designate groups that are parties to the cessation of hostilities could have damaging consequences to the cessation just as we are trying to de-escalate the situation on the ground,” said a spokesperson for the US mission to the United Nations.
Posted by: dh | May 13 2016 0:50 utc | 30
@30 dh... one quickly comes to the conclusion the usa is a lying sack of shit..
speaking of which, interesting post at sst on saudi arabia and 9-11 connections.. i've always thought it was in inside job with some parties made to look like the guilty ones.. it looks like it is time to throw the saudi's under the bus.. meanwhile those 5 dancing israeli's never seem far away in any of it.. i note mondo did a piece on trumps comments back in nov 2015 on this.. fascinating..
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/11/celebration-laughing-israelis/
the first few response's to phils post are from mrw, is the same mrw who visits moa..
here's the abc page i think ttg is encouraging direction to -
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1
Posted by: james | May 13 2016 2:53 utc | 31
gotta love mooser at mondoweiss. i used to follow the site more closer a number of years ago..
"I don’t go up in any building taller than a single-wide. Concrete, steel, feh!. Stuff turns to talcum if you give it a good whack. Falls down at free-fall speed.
Undersize 2x4s, plywood and asbestos shingles, that’s the way to build. Has a structure built like that ever collapsed into powder?" mooser comment..
Posted by: james | May 13 2016 3:11 utc | 32
i agree with harry laws comment - another poster who visits moa
http://mondoweiss.net/2016/05/excerpt-syrians-revolution/
Posted by: james | May 13 2016 3:16 utc | 33
Long before the color revolution erupted, the narrative had been hijacked.
There's a discussion of sorts at Saker right now. Intibah Gadi has an article that speaks of the interlocutors, the gatekeepers - those who visit from afar and take over and speak on behalf of indigenous issues, and who change the narrative accordingly. And how much of this is innocent and how much is gamed.
Intibah is wife and co-author with Ghassan Kadi - analysts both, from the Levant and with that particular view. Her article speaks greatly of the Syria experience, and how the true indigenous narrative is submerged beneath the western liberal adoption of same. They are both analytical contemporaries with Sharmine Narwani, who in my opinion has written the definitive account of the Syrian narrative, how it was seized and changed, and how it was made to fit into color revolution.
Intibah Gadi's article at the Saker is: "Orientalists, Gatekeepers, Evangelists and Subverters of the Syrian Defense Community"
Posted by: Grieved | May 13 2016 4:39 utc | 34
here is a link to the article grieved cites... good article... casts a pale light on the charles lister's and sohr type propaganda dispensaries while articulating a viewpoint lost on many in the west..
Posted by: james | May 13 2016 4:58 utc | 35
Here are a couple of interesting links.
The first one is about the 7th annual meeting between China and the Arab states focusing on the current Belt and Road initiative.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2016-05/13/c_135355140.htm
The second link is a video of China's Xi sending a message to the 7th annual meeting linked to above.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/video/2016-05/13/c_135355827.htm
China is actively cultivating influence in the world and starting to exert its voice.
Another Bretton Woods type of meeting where private finance no longer maintains control is my dream, and it can't come to soon.
Posted by: psychohistorian | May 13 2016 5:51 utc | 36
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/05/13/465295/Israel-Hezbollah-Syria-Lebanon-Damascus
Israel has once again gone too far. I hope im wrong but like i said i have a baddd feeling about this summer. All the regional moved are pointing in that direction!!!
Hope im wrong
Posted by: Deebo | May 13 2016 10:04 utc | 37
32;Yeah,Mooser is self deprecating and on point in many of his posts.A righteous Jew.
How about the Donald yesterday;We've killed untold numbers in our bombing attacks,and while America has lost thousands,the ME has lost millions.We never should have gone there.(Iraq)
The MSM didn't note it,of course.
And the Zionist killed a Hezbollah commander,and the NYTs says he was responsible for Hariri's death 11 years ago,whose investigation has been on hold forever,probably because all signs point to Zion.
A travesty of reality.
Posted by: dahoit | May 13 2016 14:04 utc | 38
@36 deebo - i was saying publicly months ago that things will heat up towards the end of summer.. that is astro based.. i hope i am wrong too.. glad to see b covering the content from a number of my posts on this open thread today in a new post..
Posted by: james | May 13 2016 15:28 utc | 40
a friendly reminder, fukus practically hogs the entire chart of top 100 bs of the century.
zwo watch rule 1
never trust anything coming outta the wh or downing st ...unless its officially denied !
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44638.htm
Posted by: denk | May 13 2016 17:07 utc | 41
at nmb @ 1. The Hollande Gvmt.’s use of article 49.3 (to jam a law in by decree) has provoked two censure motions - which if voted in by the majority of deputés - causes the Gvmt. to fall.
One from the ‘frondeurs’ - more radical - in Hollande’s Socialist Party - to not lose face with their electorate, the other from the Républicains - who think the law doesn’t go far enough. Both these motions will fail or have already, I haven’t kept up, because the majority can’t be attained (as any absent deputy is counted as voting against the censure measure.)
The ‘reform’ is 100% motivated, no, better, coerced, by the EU. It is part of a long standing list of what France must accomplish.
The first step in this direction taken was to permit (force..?) work on Sundays, which also created quite a storm but did not make the int’l press. This present ‘reform’ is at once somewhat ‘broad’ as it treats a large number of topics, it is sort of half-a-stab at indeed giving employers (corporations..) more power, but it is also in some aspects cosmetic.. Professional discussions by the serious (not from the *right*) have been mixed - puzzled - even occasionally laudatory about some aspects - wary or strongly condemnatory, hysterical about others. (I’m not for in case of any doubt.) The details are too complex to go into here.. The protests are motivated by anti-Hollande/Valls, against any attack on workers, turning away from the Socialists, etc.
Use of art. 49.3 is not at all uncommon in F. Valls (present Hollande Gvmt.) has already used it 3 times. Michel Rocard (Socialist Gvmt. under Mitterand) used it 28 times.
Pic of a man holding the F labor-law book. He won’t be holding it in his hands for long as it weighs more than a kilo and you can’t see his glasses to read the minuscule font. The PDF download is 2,880 pages.
Reforming or changing this body of law is an impossible task, from any quarter. The law(s..) aren’t even applied because it is too complicated. So the conflict is taking place outside of legislation. Which the French cannot admit, as they are attached to the rule of law..
Posted by: Noirette | May 13 2016 21:57 utc | 42
@42 noirette
Thanks for the explanation. So there's no hope of bringing down Hollande/Valles?
Posted by: jfl | May 14 2016 0:57 utc | 43
jfl, I think no hope. The main problem as I see it is that the ‘frondeurs’ (left-er part of Socialists) who while some may be sincere even likeable ppl, as a group do nothing. They are involved in a kind of internal psychodrama of rifts, alliances, positions, and so on. They could bring the Gvmt down (they would have a lot of popular support) I reckon, but won’t do it, as they are part of the ruling clique. None of them wants to rock that boat… It is all very similar to the left wing of Syriza and Tsipras as ‘traitor.’ The more I think about it, same story, but flavored Camembert instead of Feta.
The other problem is the FN, against this law but not clearly so.. Marine Le Pen pointed out (more or less correctly) - there is a contradiction between being against this law and pro-EU (as the law comes from the EU - who amongst the Socialist voters can actually hear that??) and that the law is only in favor of Big Corps, Mega Biz, who are the only ones who will be able to apply it: it doesn’t “solve” the problems of small and medium businesses who desperately need ‘deregulation’ (though she doesn’t use that word) to fill their order books. This is all congruent with a FN stance, but amounts to merely sitting it out. Marine in F:
http://www.frontnational.com/loi-elkhomri-salaries-jetables-pme-oubliees-pour-nous-cest-non/
Posted by: Noirette | May 14 2016 14:00 utc | 44
what an oxymoron !
*War danger grows following new US provocation in South China Sea*
*The deployment of jet fighters against a US warship indicates that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) regime concluded it would escalate its own reactionary preparations for a military confrontation with the war machine of the US and its allies*
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/05/11/chin-m11.html
Posted by: denk | May 14 2016 15:05 utc | 45
Davutoglu vs. Erdogan: Who Has Lost?
As for the fate that awaits Davutoglu, he’s more of an intellectual character than a street fighter, so he will directly confront Erdogan only if he has the support of the West. And there’s every reason for the West to provide it. After all, Washington and Brussels have nothing to gain from the rebellious madman at the position of Turkish President that is getting stronger by the day. Davutoglu, in comparison, is way more humble, he’s not making a cult out of his personality, and he’s always willing to negotiate. That is why Western leaders are sympathetic with Davutoglu. One shouldn’t forget that during their visit to Turkey German Chancellor Angela Merkel and the President of the European Council Donald Tusk were meeting with the Prime Minister, not the President. Hillary Clinton also strongly supported Davutoglu and she’s going to visit Turkey soon. In addition, the resignation of Ahmet Davutoglu jeopardizes the implementation of the migration agreement between Brussels and Ankara, notes the Financial Times.
I read stuff like this and wonder if these authors and I are living on the same planet. The US loves madmen and chaos, and the ME is the perfect place for 'em as far as their mentors in Israel are concerned. The EU, Angela Merkel, crawls before Erdogan on her hands and knees, imprisons Germans - well, charges them - who dare to point out the sultan has no clothes.
The Western "leadership" is leading all of us over the cliff, yet we just vacantly follow along, hoping something better will turn up. An 'illegal' power he's assumed - a political party running the government from the sidelines. Merkel, Clinton or Trump, or Bernie will pivot on a dime and talk to Erdogan's son-in-law, or to whomever he gives the job of Prime Minister ... no more elections in Turkey. Erdogan just does what he wants ... and his enablers in Germany and the US keep right on enabling him.
Maybe I'm wrong. Time will tell. But Obama, for one, looks to be playing the neo-cons' blonde-haired, blue-eyed boy right up to the end. And Clinton is a neo-con, and Adelson just bought Trump. On the outside track, Bernie is a not particularly independent American Jew.
Posted by: jfl | May 15 2016 12:57 utc | 46
way to go, iran...
http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160515/1039649356/iran-us-lawsuit.html#comments
Posted by: denk | May 16 2016 1:40 utc | 47
Heartening news from South America ...
Latin American leaders refuse to recognize Temer’s government
The leaders of Venezuela, Cuba, Ecuador, Bolivia, Nicaragua and El Salvador have supported Rousseff, challenging the legitimacy of her ouster and the authority of her successor Michel Temer.El Salvadorian President Salvador Sanchez Ceren said in a statement on Saturday that Rousseff’s suspension had “the appearance of a coup d'etat.”
President Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela and his Bolivian counterpart Evo Morales on Thursday also called Rousseff’s suspension a coup.
Cuba also questioned the legality of the suspension, calling it a “judicial-parliamentary coup d’etat.”
Colombia’s President Juan Manuel Santos said Rousseff’s suspension could have a negative impact on the stability of the region.
Posted by: jfl | May 16 2016 9:49 utc | 48
Saudi Arabia to launch new surveillance center: Report
The National Center for Joint Security Operations, based in Mecca Province, will monitor security via 18,000 surveillance cameras, which will be “linked to smart applications,” the Saudi Gazette daily reported on Sunday.It also said that 1,600 officers trained overseas and fluent in English will manage and operate the center, which will need 400 people on every shift.
The Saudi newspaper did not specify where the officers had been trained and when the center will officially open, but said the Road Security Control, a section of the broader center, is already operating from the new premises.
According to the report, the center will have two giant screens, where images from the security cameras will appear.
Officials are scheduled to make “911” the number to call for any security-related problems in Saudi Arabia, the report said, adding that anyone who calls will be passed to the new security hub “within seconds.”
Think any of the 1600 are Americans? Do bears shit in the woods? Do mercenaries shit in the dessert?
Posted by: jfl | May 16 2016 9:55 utc | 49
Barack Obama and a quarter-century of US wars
In a front-page article published on May 15, the New York Times calls attention to a significant milestone in the presidency of Barack Obama: “He has now been at war longer than Mr. Bush, or any other American president.” Obama overtook his predecessor on May 6. But with eight months still to go in the White House, he is on target to set yet another record. The Times writes: “If the United States remains in combat in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria until the end of Mr. Obama’s term—a near-certainty given the president’s recent announcement that he will send 250 additional Special Operations forces to Syria—he will leave behind an improbable legacy as the only president in American history to serve two complete terms with the nation at war.”Mark Landler, the author of the Times article, notes Obama’s status as a Nobel Peace Prize winner in 2009 without any sense of irony. Rather, he portrays the president as “trying to fulfill the promises he made as an antiwar candidate…” Obama “has wrestled with this immutable reality [of war] from his first year in the White House…”
If it's wrestling its Professional Wrestling, American style.
Obama as professional wrestler. I hadn't thought of that way, but it fits.
Professional wrestling (colloquially abbreviated to pro wrestling or wrestling) is an athletic form of entertainment based on a portrayal of a combat sport.[1] Taking the form of live events held by touring promotions, it portrays a unique style of combat based on a combination of adopted styles, which include classical wrestling, catch wrestling and various forms of martial arts, as well as an innovative style based on grappling (holds/throws), striking, and aerialism. Various forms of weaponry are sometimes used.The content including match outcomes is choreographed and the combative actions and reactions are executed in special manners designed to both protect from, yet simulate, pain.[2] These facts were once kept highly secret, but they are now openly declared as the truth. By and large, the true nature of the content is ignored by the performing promotion in official media in order to sustain and promote the willing suspension of disbelief for the audience by maintaining an aura of verisimilitude. Fan communications by individual wrestlers and promotions through outside media (i.e., interviews) will often directly acknowledge the fictional nature of the spectacle.
Real people dying miserable deaths all around the world. All for the 'entertainment' of his American audience? I guess it's like 'You're having fun now! Say my name!'. Fun?The USA is about as securely in the gutter as its ever been in my lifetime. But if i live longer I'll see worse. It can always get worse.
Posted by: jfl | May 16 2016 11:02 utc | 50
murkka the shit stirrer.
INDIA'S CHINA WAR 1962...MADE IN USA !
* As to what lies behind the aggressive attitude of the Nehru government, it must be borne in mind first of all that the imperialist world, particularly the U.S. would like nothing better than to see the two principal Asiatic powers, the two powers which hold the greatest revolutionary promise for mankind in the east, locked in military combat, shedding the blood of thousands, absorbing the resources and energies of millions of people, which should be used to construct a revolutionary way of life.
The efforts of the U.S. government, it must be noted, have been directed, insofar as India is concerned, not only to make it economically and financially dependent upon U.S. monopoly interests, but also to inflame the Indian bourgeoisie, particularly its right-wing extremist elements, against the Chinese people's Republic.
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Since the Indian Prime Minister left the shores of the U.S. there have been only rare intervals in which there has been a let up in the war fever fanned by the Indian bourgeoisie and its agent Nehru. For a long time Nehru played the role of moderator between left and right in the Indian-China border dispute, cautioning the extremist elements of the bourgeoisie in Parliament, and repudiating suggestions for offensive operations by his military advisers.
But his October 4 decision, taken after a cabinet meeting, made it clear beyond any shadow of a doubt that he had completely capitulated to the right wing on this issue and was kowtowing to U.S. imperialist interests.
http://www.workers.org/marcy/cd/samwith/within/pcnvrt05.htm
Posted by: denk | May 16 2016 15:47 utc | 51
I think of the good, decent, peace-loving people I have known by the thousands, and I wonder. How many of them are so afflicted with the wasting disease of normalcy that, even as they declare for the peace, their hands reach out with an instinctive spasm ... in the direction of their comforts, their home, their security, their income, their future, their plans — that five-year plan of studies, that ten-year plan of professional status, that twenty-year plan of family growth and unity, that fifty-year plan of decent life and honorable natural demise.“Of course, let us have the peace,” we cry,
“but at the same time let us have normalcy, let us lose nothing, let our lives stand intact, let us know neither prison nor ill repute nor disruption of ties.”
And because we must encompass this and protect that, and because at all costs — at all costs — our hopes must march on schedule, and because it is unheard of that in the name of peace a sword should fall, disjoining that fine and cunning web that our lives have woven, because it is unheard of that good men should suffer injustice or families be sundered or good repute be lost — because of this we cry peace and cry peace, and there is no peace. There is no peace because there are no peacemakers. There are no makers of peace because the making of peace is at least as costly as the making of war — at least as exigent, at least as disruptive, at least as liable to bring disgrace and prison and death in its wake.
--Daniel Berrigan
“The good is to be done because it is good, not because it goes somewhere,” he [Daniel Berrigan] told me [Chris Hedges].
“I believe if it is done in that spirit it will go somewhere, but I don’t know where. I don’t think the Bible grants us to know where goodness goes, what direction, what force. I have never been seriously interested in the outcome. I was interested in trying to do it humanely and carefully and nonviolently and let it go.”
Things are looking drear indeed. 'Activists' disavow an 'outcome' orientation. Stick to the right path because it is the right path, not because it is the way out of the woods.
I wonder if a 'wag' might not then say, in that case, that Daniel Berrigan was the spokesperson for the Ministry of Silly Walks. What's needed is perseverance. Let us each polish our personal, particular silly walk.
Posted by: jfl | May 16 2016 22:59 utc | 52
This is what's been going on, what constitutes the most immediate challenge before us ...
Barack Obama and a quarter-century of US wars
The events of September 11, 2001 provided the opportunity for the launching of the “War on Terror,” a propaganda slogan that provided an all-purpose justification for military operations throughout the Middle East, Central Asia and, with increasing frequency, Africa. The military strategy of the United States was revised in line with the new doctrine of “preventive warfare,” adopted by the US in 2002. This doctrine, which violated existing international law, decreed that the United States could attack any country in the world that was judged to pose a potential threat — not only of a military, but also an economic character — to American interests.The administration of the second President Bush ordered the invasion of Afghanistan in the autumn of 2001. In speeches that followed 9/11, Bush used the phrase “wars of the twenty-first century.” In this case, Bush spoke with great precision. The “War on Terror” was, from the beginning, conceived as an unending series of military operations all over the globe. One war would necessarily and inevitably lead to another. Afghanistan proved to be a dress rehearsal for the invasion of Iraq. The scope of military operations continuously widened. New wars were started while the old ones continued. The cynical invocation of human rights was used to wage war against Libya and overthrow the regime of Muammar Gaddafi. The same hypocritical pretext was employed to organize a proxy war in Syria. The consequences of these wars, in terms of human lives and suffering, are incalculable.
The strategic logic of the US drive for global hegemony has led to conflicts that extend beyond bloody neocolonial operations in the Middle East and Africa. The geopolitical ambitions of the United States have led to increasingly dangerous confrontations with China and Russia. In fact, the ongoing regional wars are becoming transformed into component elements of the rapidly escalating conflict of the United States and its European and Asian allies with Russia and China.
... yet we no longer hear, nor see, anything like what was said and done in the 'bad old days', when aggressive wars were fought sequentially, one by one ? ...
Our apologies good friends
for the fracture of good order the burning of paper
instead of children the angering of the orderlies
in the front parlor of the charnel house
We could not so help us God do otherwise
For we are sick at heart
Our hearts give us no rest for thinking of the Land of Burning Children …
We say: Killing is disorder
life and gentleness and community and unselfishness
is the only order we recognize …
How long must the world’s resources
be raped in the service of legalized murder?
When at what point will you say no to this war?
We have chosen to say
with the gift of our liberty
if necessary our lives:
the violence stops here
the death stops here
the suppression of the truth stops here
this war stops here …--Daniel Berrigan at Catonsville, 1968
Posted by: jfl | May 17 2016 0:07 utc | 53
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WARNING.. this is a repost.
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im re-posting old stuffs just to show some things never change innit ?
the arsonist fanning the flame...
*Chances are you won’t hear a single word about US-Indian military links in the mainstream media’s reporting about US President George W. Bush’s first visit to India this week. For months the media in both countries have been encouraged to speculate about whether a deal on US-Indian cooperation on civilian nuclear power would be ready in time for Bush’s visit, but that deal is just the quid pro quo. The actual "quo" was a de facto military alliance between India and the United States, but we don’t talk about that in front of the children.
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They are building an alliance that is bound to alarm the Chinese, who cannot fail to see it as directed against them. There is absolutely no evidence for aggressive Chinese intentions towards India or anywhere in South Asia, but Washington and New Delhi are laying the foundations for a new Cold War in Asia.* [1]
[1]
http://www.island.lk/2006/03/01/features7.html
epilog
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the untold story of chinese indians persecution during the 1962 border war.
http://www.sacw.net/article11747.html
Posted by: denk | May 17 2016 3:36 utc | 54
World powers approve arms for Libya's new government
Major world powers convening in Vienna on Monday said they were prepared to lift a UN arms embargo on Libya's new unity government to help it secure control over the chaotic North African oil state.
U.S. backs arming new Libyan government to fight Islamic State
Kerry said it was "imperative" for the international community to support the 6-week-old government in Tripoli, which he called "the only legitimate one in Libya and which must now start to work.”
US, Allies to Start Arming Libya’s ‘Unity Govt’
The US has apparently decided the unity government is more legitimate than the elected Tobruk parliament, however, and the Treasury Department imposed sanctions on the Tobruk parliament’s president last week for not endorsing the unity government as superior to his own.The initial UN plan was for the “unity government” to bring together the Tobruk and Tripoli parliaments, but instead it seems now the plan is to just anoint them as the “only” government and work to destroy the existing parliaments.
More death, devastation, and destruction from the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate / Professional Wrestler / POTUS.
Posted by: jfl | May 17 2016 6:26 utc | 55
the shit stirrer never sleeps ......
*US deputy assistant secretary of defense for East Asia Abraham M Denmark had said that “we have noticed an increase in capability and force posture by the Chinese military in areas close to the border with India.”* [1]
this moron must be under some rock all these yrs when india was frantically beefing up its troops and logistics at the border.
“It is difficult to conclude on the real intention behind this,*
well honey, i've no doubt about your intention, here to stir up shit again eh ?
neither do we need to second guess delh's motive, just like their murkkan soulmates, indians are very TRANSPARENT about how they'r gonna fix their perceived enemy.
*Following the government’s recent in-principle clearance to raise a Mountain Strike Corps, a debate over the efficacy of the decision to spend over Rs 64,000 crores on the new accretion has begun. Noted Strategic Affairs expert, former Rear Admiral Raja Menon writing in The Hindu categorically asserted:
"A geographically limited one axis offensive will not destabilise the PLA, but a flotilla of nuclear submarines and a three carrier air group in the Indian Ocean can economically cripple mainland China. * [2]
can u imagine the hysteria if the chinese dare to utter something so provocative !
washington of course has no qualm openly discussing its war plan on tv, as if they'r talking about the weather !
india isnt too far behind, its missile progress for example, was tagged according to the chinese city it could destroy. !
thus *agni-4 could vaporise shanghai*....
the agni-5 was actually nick named *china killer* ! [3]
i guess this is part n parcel of the democrazies vaunted *freedom of speech*,
sorry chicoms , eat your heart out,
hehehehe
p.s.
hey uncle scam, is it conceivable the alleged [4] chinese border activities are precautionary measure against another *fwd thrust* by bharat as in 1962....courtesy of that sleazy snake? [5]
[1]
http://atimes.com/2016/05/china-to-us-were-wise-enough-to-solve-border-row-with-india/
[3]
India is readying the first canister test of its so-called “China killer” long-range ballistic missile.
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/designation-beijing-india-test-china-killer-nuke-missile-12156
[4]
zwo watch rule 1
never take fukusi[ndia] accusation at face value, ESPECAILLY WHEN THE ACCUSED IS CHINA !
[5]
http://www.workers.org/marcy/cd/samwith/within/pcnvrt05.htm
Posted by: denk | May 17 2016 16:28 utc | 56
Israel to release Duma arsonist from prison
An Israeli court has ruled for the release of Meir Ettinger, an Israeli settler who was behind the burning to death of a Palestinian family in the West Bank.Ettinger will be freed on June 1, a court ruled on Tuesday, after being detained for eight months without being charged for leading a terror group.
The ruling came as the Israeli Security Agency decided not to extend Ettinger’s detention.
The 24-year-old settler was arrested in August 2015 for leading Israeli attackers who firebombed a Palestinian home and killed three members of the family. The victims were an 18-month-old boy and his parents.
'Heh! We're not as bad as Hitler!'
You're bad enough. A pissant little country like Israel can never kill the numbers of people 'up close and personally' that the German Reich killed ... but proportionately they're right up there. And as far as hypocrisy goes Netanyahoo and the Israelis are head and shoulders above Hitler and NAZI Germany.
Have a gander at Meir Ettinger. A nice Jewish boy from Brooklyn, NY. Meir Kahane's grandson. He always smiles when he thinks about killing Palestinian children.
murkkan
*Well, the Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, and Vietnamese were kind of short, but they were all distinct in appearance. But they did have one thing in common. During the period we fought them, they were the nastiest most barbaric soldiers on the planet. We always seem to get into fights with the worst.*
Posted by: denk | May 19 2016 2:12 utc | 58
robert neller, commander marine corp
* Beijing Doesn't 'Support Stability' of South China Sea Region* [1]
what, the mad chinaman wanna strangle his own jugular ??
neller
*We are a nation of laws, we go out and do what we do to support international law*
hmm
chinaman doesnt seem to have gone crazy,
otoh, must be something in the murkkans water, flint may be just the tip of an iceberg !
[1]
http://sputniknews.com/asia/20160517/1039777157/robert-neller-south-china-sea.html
Posted by: denk | May 19 2016 3:45 utc | 59
Susette in answer to your comment 31 on the International Policy on Libya thread, There is much documentation to substantiate the ill effects of GMOs, I agree.
I was surprised to find that newborn babies are vaccinated, and that kids are supposed to receive 113 injections by kindergarten. Dr. Sherry Tenpenny has extraordinary certifications and experience. After all her experience she was greatly surprised to find out about the factual basis and scientific knowledge about vaccines that is being overlooked. This video relies heavily on CDC info and on published medical studies. Everything is straight out of the studies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1VwVBmx0Ng
While epidemics from manmade viruses are technically possible, they may be too risky to use. At any rate, it's too speculative to be discussed briefly.
My concern about contrails is not that they could be a delivery system for pathogens, about which many conclusions have been reached w/o data. Rather, the use of aerosols cannot avoid cooling. It reduces TSI Total Solar Irradiation reaching the surface. The now-ubiquitous haze which has replaced the normal saturated-blue sky w clouds indicates the presence of nanoparticle aerosols. A normal sky can be seen only after a heavy rain, until there are new "contrails". The cooling effect is being hidden by fictitious reports of "warming", and the omission of cold weather occurrences in weather reporting. I can't fathom any reason for it except the hastening of the expected Cold Event due to the current Solar Cycle's being the weakest in 200 years. This event, expected by all to be less severe than the Little Ice Age is widely predicted, especially among Russian scientists. That our energy grid should be vastly reduced at this time is especially ominous.
I don't think it's warranted to ascribe other motives to the oligarchs than a desire for global rule w vastly decreased population, in a technocratic feudalism.
Regards.
-P
Posted by: Penelope | May 19 2016 6:28 utc | 60
I guess Haitham Abu Said will be getting his pink-slip from the UN soon ?...
'Saudi Arabia providing banned chemical munitions to Nusra Front'
A senior European official says Saudi Arabia is providing members of the al-Qaeda-affiliated Nusra Front with internationally-banned chemical weapons.Secretary General of the European Department for Security and Information (DESI) Haitham Abu Said the terrorists regularly use the munitions in their attacks against Syrian civilians.
Abu Said said Wednesday that the ammunition are being supplied to the extremists monthly under a plan drawn up in Bulgaria, and sneaked into Syria through militant-held areas on the border with Jordan.
... talking like that about the UN/US/EU's favorite terrorists will probably ruffle some feathers, nailing KSA and Jordan is like nailing the USA itself.
Posted by: jfl | May 19, 2016 8:02:59 AM | 61
It's unusual to see an Axis of Resistance member using the West's chemical weapons trope as a propaganda tool against pro-West Saudi Barbaria. I thought the West owned the Copyright and Patent on that hokum.
Although one couldn't describe them as harmless, there are several reasons for the decline in popularity of chemical weapons after WWI and WWII. They're very inefficient, imprecise, unreliable and unpredictable compared with traditional/ conventional methods of mass-slaughter.
The following article explains it comprehensively and well. Feel free to scroll down to the Conclusions before wading through the whole article.
Rethinking Chemical Weapons
https://gowans.wordpress.com/2015/06/27/rethinking-chemical-weapons/
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 19 2016 16:04 utc | 62
In case you're wondering why pres-elect Duterte of the Philippines is getting so much bad press in the West: "trigger-happy" "violent", "sexist" "yaddida yaddida" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qFaomaWDf0
Posted by: ruralito | May 19 2016 16:58 utc | 63
Erdogan applies 'the Armenian solution' to the Kurds, in Turkey and out ...
Turkish army shelling Kurdish-populated city in Mardin Province
Turkish military forces have continued the heavy shelling of a Kurdish-populated city in the country’s southeastern province of Mardin ... 792 kilometers (492 miles) east of the capital, Ankara, following bombardments by Turkish army forces.The development comes as activists and eyewitnesses say the Turkish army has purportedly used internationally-banned phosphorus bombs in its military campaign against Nusaybin ... “After the bombardments, we saw a pillar of white smoke followed by a black cloud of smoke. Flames leaped from the targeted buildings later on,” he said.
“Turkish army forces have burned more than 28 houses of civilians in neighborhoods of Zein al-Abedin and Kanika inside the city,” a local source told ARA News earlier this month.
Around 35,000 civilians trapped in the city since March 14 ... over 1,000 civilians have been killed ever since the Turkish military started its campaign against Kurdish-populated cities and towns in southeastern Turkey last July.
The Turkish military has also been conducting offensives against the positions of the group in northern Iraq and Syria.
No problem for NATO ...
"Russia's lake": The Black Sea fleet vs. the new Ukrainian-Turkish naval coalition
As far as is known, this could be a dress rehearsal for the activities of a future NATO Black Sea fleet, the creation of which is planned to be discussed on July 8th-9th at the alliance’s summit in Warsaw. The Black Sea member states of NATO and their Ukrainian and Georgian partners have supported the idea.Following the formal approval of such a project, the American, German, Italian, and Turkish navies’ ships and aircraft will join the ranks of such a feet along with Ukraine and Georgia’s participation. All of this will, to put it mildly, cause a disturbance at Russia’s borders.
... Erdogan is WWIII in motion.
Posted by: jfl | May 20 2016 4:22 utc | 64
NATO genocide ...
'Unprecedented destruction' of Kurdish city of Cizre
An extensive independent report from the Turkish human rights NGO Mazlumder concludes that Turkish army campaigns in the predominantly Kurdish city of Cizre in the country's far southeast turned the city into a "war zone" where over 200 people were killed during the curfew. More than 10,000 homes were destroyed.Mazlumder's report concludes that between 203 and 266 people were killed during the military curfew and the fighting between state forces and militants in Cizre, the majority of whom were killed when Turkish security forces stormed three residential basements in which hundreds were sheltering from the fighting.
"A total of 85 people lost their lives before the basement incidents. All those 85 people were locals of Cizre and their official place of residence was Cizre. We knew who they were and where they were living," Kadir Kunur, co-mayor of Cizre, told the NGO. "A total of 176 people were massacred altogether in three basements."
The storming of the basements, which is referred to by Cizre residents as the "basement massacre" is the focus of many of the worst suspected rights abuses.
Residents describe how the neighborhoods surrounding the basements were attacked by state forces using tanks and artillery. According to co-mayor Kunur, following the worst of the fighting the security forces extended the military curfew for a further 19 days to cover up the evidence of abuses.
"The buildings which were not demolished during the clashes were destroyed. Debris mixed with human remains were dumped on the banks of the Tigris River," Kunur said.
"There is little point in expecting justice from the Turkish courts, in fact the government is now working on a law that will protect state forces from prosecution in the future because of this conflict," she told DW.
"However if the EU or UN would have sent missions to Cizre during the curfews it might have been different - perhaps some of the dead would still be alive today."
Move along. Nothing to see here. Looks just like the work of the UN/US/EU/KSA/Turkish-supported killers and goons in Syria.
The Turkish genocide of the Kurds is like the Israeli genocide of the Palestinians ... the UN/US/EU/NATO don't want to know.
Just get it over with quickly. Then we will all wail aloud, tear our garments, and gnash or teeth. Until we stop. Till next time.
More NATO aggression in Syria and Iraq ...
NATO mulls deploying AWACS ‘against Daesh’
Daesh/al-CIAduh have no airforce ... at least Trukey and Saudi Arabia have not yet flown strafed and bombed Syria.
This will enable the US/NATO to relay coordinates of Syrian/Russian airplanes to Daesh/al-CIAduh to shoot down, using US/NATO weaponry supplied by Turkey, KSA, and the GCCs to the collection of murderers they've gathered up worldwide and sent to Syria as "rebels"?
terrorism in ph....MADE IN USA.
QED
http://atimes.com/2016/05/meiring-murder-subversion-and-treason-dutertes-beef-with-us/
Posted by: denk | May 20 2016 15:34 utc | 67
over at okinawa, another rape cum murder ..
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36339402
Posted by: denk | May 20 2016 15:50 utc | 68
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