Open Thread 2016-15
News & views ...
Posted by b on April 20, 2016 at 17:46 UTC | Permalink
« previous pagehttp://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2016/04/one-more-scandal-in-european-parliament.html
EU passed legislation which would mean publishing whistleblowers' information could result in the affected businesses suing the publisher for damages.
Looks like the EU reps want to enact this kind of corporate benefit prior to getting into treaty law. ACK.
Posted by: jawbone | Apr 23 2016 17:18 utc | 102
Interesting that western propaganda has NOT demonized Chinese leaders as it has Putin. Although China a much bigger threat to western hegemony
Posted by: Vollin | Apr 23 2016 17:20 utc | 103
Jawbone @ 100,
"fired on" but didn't down them? Hmm, curious. If it's real was it sposed to be warning shots?
Posted by: Penelope | Apr 23 2016 17:41 utc | 104
Richard Lindzen, lead author of IPCC Chapt 7, "Physical Climate Processes and Feedbacks," third assessment report. Professor of meteorology, MIT for 20 years. An atmospheric physicist w specialties in dynamics of the middle atmosphere, atmospheric tides, and ozone photochemistry. Published more than 200 scientific papers, and books.
"As MIT climate scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen stated, “The latest IPCC report has truly sunk to the level of hilarious incoherence—it is quite amazing to see the contortions the IPCC has to go through in order to keep the international climate agenda going.”
"After all these years, IPCC still doesn’t get it—we’ve been thawing out from the Little Ice Age for several hundred years but still are not yet back to pre-Little Ice Age temperatures that prevailed for 90% of the past 10,000 years. Warming and cooling has been going on for millions of years, long before CO2 could have had anything to do with it, so warming in itself certainly doesn’t prove that it was caused by CO2.
"Their misrepresentation of data is ridiculous. In Fig. 1, the IPCC report purports to show warming of 0.5°C (0.9°F) since 1980, yet surface temperature measurements indicate no warming over the past 17 years (Fig. 2) and satellite temperature data shows the August 13 temperature only 0.12°C (0.21°F) above the 1908 temperature (Spencer, 2013). IPCC shows a decadal warming of 0.6°C (1°F) since 1980 but the temperature over the past decade has actually cooled, not warmed." https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/10/03/the-2013-ipcc-ar5-report-facts-vs-fictions/
If you want peer-reviewed, look up the (Spencer, 2013) study that Linzen cited.
Posted by: Penelope | Apr 23 2016 18:22 utc | 105
Jawbone @ 100,
"fired on" but didn't down them? Hmm, curious. If it's real was it sposed to be warning shots?
Posted by: Penelope | Apr 23, 2016 1:41:24 PM | 104
Good question.
Satanyahoo lies about everything. If the Russians had fired on an Israeli jet in Syrian airspace it would be a pile of scrap metal at the end of a skidmark.
If it's not, then they didn't.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 23 2016 18:50 utc | 106
fukus citizens commenting on china's plan to explore mars in 2020.
............................................................................................................
*guess they will have to build a rocket first…………….chuckle……chuckle.chuckl*
have these people been under some rock or something ?
*WATTTY, GLASGOW, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago
Take it that means we will have to up our aid donations to them.*
wow, uk giving aid donations to china, thats news to me ?
i seem to recall brit pm trooping to beijing hat in hand since at least a decade ago.
*jmatt, Northampton, 4 hours ago
Kinda surprised the greedy Chinese haven’t already declared that Mars belongs to them. They seem to believe they can plunk down an artificial island in any sea they want and declare it all belongs to them.*
so speak the greatest land grabber in human history !
*Ailsa6, upnorth, United Kingdom, 5 hours ago
Good., then maybe they’ll take all their people there and trash it!*
*Phil, Hull, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
So how much aid do we send them?*
sic
*username unavailable, Cardiff, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago
Send them, send them all! Bye china!!*
*liz in LA, altadena, United States, 9 hours ago
best news I have heard all day. Should send all their over population there.*
Posted by: denk | Apr 24 2016 3:06 utc | 107
duterte, the front running prez candidate who say NO to washington,
now under twin attack from uncle sham and its deputy...
These countries' ambassadors to the Philippines have been publicly critical of the candidate's “rape joke.” He was caught on video at his campaign rally, narrating that when he saw the corpse of the gang-raped Australian lay missionary in 1989, he thought she was pretty and was mad at the criminals who beat them to her.
Amanda Gorely, Australian ambassador to the Philippines,
*“Rape and murder should never be joked about or trivialized. Violence against women and girls is unacceptable anytime, anywhere.”*
US ambassador to the Philippines Philip Goldberg, for his part, expressed his agreement with corely.
*statements by anyone, anywhere that either degrade women or trivialize issues so serious as rape or murder are not ones that we condone.”*
http://www.rappler.com/nation/politics/elections/2016/130439-ambassadors-comments-duterte-rape-joke
Posted by: denk | Apr 24 2016 6:15 utc | 108
95 & 96, Formerly T-Bear & Okie Farmer,
I didn't find a single climate fact in your comments-- not even an invented one. Ad hominems can't hide that you have neither opposing facts nor arguments. You seem to hold your positions on a strictly emotional level. I quote & link to scientists, NASa & NOAA. And you only quote the Guardian! They don't even pretend to cover any side except alarmism:
“Spring is arriving earlier each year as a result of climate change, the first ‘conclusive proof’ that global warming is altering the timing of the seasons, scientists announced yesterday.”
Guardian, 26 Aug 2006.
(Winter snows & record cold temperatures persisted into April in many countries this year.)
Sept 17,2013 "final collapse of Arctic sea ice within 4 years": Prof Waldham.
(The ice quadrupled in the following 6 months, and at the summer lowpoint was still nearly 50% greater. This was at least the 6th similar prediction. Newspapers are supposed to cover both sides of a controversy. It's called "objectivity")
You like the Guardian because it fulfills your emotional hopes for disaster. For shame. Don't you know that science is supposed to be rational & logical?
Posted by: Penelope | Apr 24 2016 6:17 utc | 109
Posted by: denk | Apr 23, 2016 11:06:15 PM | 107
(China will have to build a rocket first...)
They must have missed the story about the global angst arising from China destroying one of its own redundant satellites about a decade ago.
It's pretty hard to dismiss such precision and expertise as the result of luck...
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 24 2016 6:50 utc | 110
Berlin Pirate Party Leader Arrested for Erdogan Insult
“When people slightly criticize the government in Turkey, they are persecuted, beaten or disappear. At the same time, the dictator Erdogan is allowed to significantly restrict the right of assembly and the freedom of expression in Germany, simply for saying that he beats Kurds and Christians,” Kramm wrote in a statement on the party website.
Insulting Muslims all over the world is OK if your name is Charley, but you'll do time for naming a NATO murderer if your name is Bruno?
Posted by: jfl | Apr 24 2016 7:09 utc | 112
Hoarsewhisperer 110
also their gratuitous malice to the *chinks* is truly
a mystery to me.
*send all those trash to mars* !
what've those chinks ever done to fukus,?
0,none, nade, zilch.
whereas fukus assault on the chinese dated back to the
opium war, the greatest genocide of all time. its still ongoing !
Posted by: denk | Apr 24 2016 7:52 utc | 113
Sanders Adviser Says Campaign May Need to 'Re-Evaluate' Future
"There is not a single doubt in my mind that the strong campaign that Bernie Sanders is waging right now is making the Democratic Party better, stronger and more focused on the populist progressive issues that we need to take on if we are going to be successful in November," Sroka said.
This is from people on Bernie's side! "Making the democratic Democratic Party stronger" ... so that Hillary can ... "be successful in November".
New York Suspends Clerk Who Wiped 126,000 Voters from the Books
Diane Haslett-Rudiano, who has served since 1999, was suspended “without pay, effective immediately, pending an internal investigation into the administration of the voter rolls in the Borough of Brooklyn,” said a Board of Elections press release Thursday night.The board may fire her as soon as Tuesday, and the New York Daily News reported that colleagues said she is being “forced out.”
They've found one who'll fall on her sword, take one for the Hill. Brooklyn, of course, is the Bern's home borough.
I hope that these folks who've been Berned ... all of them and not just those literally disenfranchised ... get the message, and write-in the name of people they'd actually like to see as their president, their congressional representative, their senator on their ballots in November.
No more donkeys, no more elephants. Ordinary, honest people with theirs and their neighbors' interests at heart.
If we'd begun in 2004 we'd be done by now.
@113 denk
That'd be Austria-Hungry's, France's, Germany's, Italy's, Japan's, Russia's, the United Kingdom's, and the United States' assault on the Chinese, wouldn't it? Pierre Loti tells the story from the point of view of a 'Great Power' adventure. He showed up after the brunt of the genocide, but his description - of the Chinese and the Western fantasy - is something to read.
|@ Little Chicken 109
Of course you didn't find anything, that would be highly predictable, it is called confirmation bias, and for many, they are completely unaware they're under its influence - as you yourself attest in your remarks. You get no marks on that one.
One of the hallmarks of the reactionary mind is to claim others have the very faults you exhibit yourself so your aspersions of emotionalism are about as fake as your thesis. Whoever would think warm could be used as an aspersion - talk about emotional frame-up, so very GOP that is. No marks there either.
The Guardian was quoted as that was where the report was made. Your issue is with either the writer of the article or the editor that approved the article for publication. Since I did not write nor publish the article and had no access to the information, I refrained from commenting but your shallow comprehension level did not allow you to conceive that fact. When you address either the writer or editor with your corrections to their journalistic transgressions and they reply, be sure to let us know in detain your victory, but most likely you will not even get the time of day with your shite. Still no marks for you there either.
There is a sport that with three strikes you're out - looks like three there already. In case a question arrises lets look a bit more 'meta' into the foundation of your being - the conspiracy theory which your thesis "The Sky Is Not Falling, 90+% of environmental experts are wrong and my conspiracy theory is more correct" is based. Link to another The Guardian:
Some pertinent passages:
“Today, if you are 15 or 16 years old, you’re going to ask questions – but the problem is never the question, it’s who gives the answer,” Huchon said. “Today – and for the last 10 years – the people who answer questions like ‘Was Charlie Hebdo a conspiracy?’ are conspiracy theory believers. That’s the problem. As journalists we produce content that can answer these questions. But how can you fight people who do not respect any kind of journalistic rules?”
Huchon said successful conspiracy theories had four essential ingredients: a plausible villain, a victim, an underlying theory and a twist or revelation. [Numerous repetitions could be added to the list] (my emphasis)
For that last part - you get full marks - for your efforts.
Hereafter please address yourself to someone who gives a shite about your delusions.
Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Apr 24 2016 9:20 utc | 116
Tensions rise in ISIS capital of Raqqa as locals complain about poor treatment
“They come from Chechnya, the Gulf, Tunisians and Libyans. They are everywhere.”“They confiscated the houses, before, they were living in clusters, now they are spreading out.”
“Foreigners are getting paid in dollars, while the Syrians are getting paid in Syrian pounds.”
Gee, I wonder who supplies the dollars? The CIA? Some of those left over pallets of billions 'liberated' ... along with Iraq?
jfl 115
cant acess your link, says connection *not safe*,
my pc has been bugged by cia/nsa for many yrs already :-(
are u talking about the eight nations alliance, ?
fukus was there too.
a partial list of fukus assaults on chinese
opium war,
8 nations alliance,
1959 tibet rebellion,
1962 indo sino war, [backed by fukus]
tibet, xinjiang bloodbath,
tw intervention,
hk destabilisation,
sars, birdflu , bio attacks,
terrorists attacks in africa, the stans, seasia,
asia pivot.....
5 centuries of unremitting assault and ongoing....
ps
tip of a iceberg !
Posted by: denk | Apr 24 2016 14:02 utc | 118
Of course global warming is a vast conspiracy to impose government regulations on the free market and democracy. What is absolutely astonishing to me about this particular conspiracy is that literally tens of thousands climate scientists composed of practically every nationality, religious, ethnic, and race have suddenly chosen to conspire on this issue. Wow! I never realized that the free market anti-regulatory sentiment ran so deeply in the world today that 97% (according to surveys of published peer reviewed papers) of accredited/degreed researchers would sign on without a leak to the enormity of this conspiracy.
I’m dumbfoundd.
Posted by: juannie | Apr 24 2016 14:27 utc | 119
So much so that I can’t even spell my emotion correctly. :-)
Posted by: juannie | Apr 24 2016 14:31 utc | 120
re 119.
"What is absolutely astonishing to me about this particular conspiracy is that literally tens of thousands climate scientists composed of practically every nationality, religious, ethnic, and race have suddenly chosen to conspire on this issue."
Their jobs depend on it, that's why. Go out on your own, and you're out of a job.
Posted by: Laguerre | Apr 24 2016 16:58 utc | 121
@118 denk
Lose the 's' in 'https'. It's a self-signed certificate - that's 'not safe' according to the mob. They want everyone to send a message on access to the certificate issuer everytime an https page is hit ... and pay for it. Just as they make people pay for their own taps - spiPhones. Of course they can't 'make' us do anything, Look at the number of gmail accounts and chrome browsers in the world. People lap it up. Please, read my email, and that of all my correspondents! Please, track me all over the internet and note what I do there!
Tip of the iceberg? I thought it was 'the greatest genocide of all time'? The opium wars ... the British empire forcefully pushing opium, grown by its colonial serfs in India, in China seems to me to be one of the greatest indictments of Western rapine and rapacity, not to mention hypocrisy - the "white man's burden" - of all time.
Posted by: jfl | Apr 24 2016 21:51 utc | 122
@121 laguerre, 'Their jobs depend on it'
That's true of every corporate employee in Neolibraconia. It is especially true of scientists - or used to bes - on the captive government corporate payroll. The EPA is another captive - sludge is good for you, and the NIH - so is glyphosate.
But sludge is not good for you, neither is glyphosate, nor fossil-fuels, and the climate is changing, nonetheless.
Yet some people take great comfort in, and derive great benefit from, defending 'commonsense', stasis rather than change - the status quo.
Posted by: jfl | Apr 24 2016 22:02 utc | 123
Laguerre @121:
Their jobs depend on it, that's why. Go out on your own, and you're out of a job.
How many retire every year?
It seems to me that energy companies would pay well for such 'truth-telling' retirees. Yet we don't see that happening.
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 24 2016 22:40 utc | 124
No one pays much attention to Donbass anymore - it's just another case of permanent shelling of civilians, not unlike the Israelis constant attacks on Gaza, just presently more frequent and more intense. But now things seem to be picking up. Full Report: Sharp Increase in Donbass fighting - last 72 hours.
What do the Europeans make of this? We Americans are comatose, apparently. Certainly the imperial wars seem not worth mentioning during the run-up to the 2016 elections. Like Palestine, everyone just seems to wish it were over. Then it can be another 'tragedy' to bemoan.
Posted by: jfl | Apr 24 2016 23:25 utc | 125
108
Amanda Gorely, Australian ambassador to the Philippines,
*“Rape and murder should never be joked about or trivialized. Violence against women and girls is unacceptable anytime, anywhere.”*
US ambassador to the Philippines Philip Goldberg, backed up corely.
*statements by anyone, anywhere that either degrade women or trivialize issues so serious as rape or murder are not ones that we condone.”*
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here's a sample of comments from murkkan commandants on okinawa rape victims./resistance
+goddamned bunch of nuts, bunch of wimps+
+whats all the fuss, boys will be boys+ [referring to the GI rapists]
+this is the price u pay for your PROTECTION+
pacom cic on three marines gang raping a preteen in a hired van
+forchrissake, for the price of the rental they could've paid for the sex+
on e timor massacre by indon shock troops, green lighted by pacom cic denis blair,
+sounds like fun”. , “sounds like the population are in raptures.*
on e timor resistance fighter deriding indon troops as *impotent invaders*
+If ‘the enemy was impotent’, as stated, how come they are daily raping the captured population? Or is the former a result of the latter?+
Posted by: denk | Apr 25 2016 5:28 utc | 126
A new tack taken on the 'create the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate's legacy' course ...
Israelis can’t wait for Obama to be out of office: Poll
Israelis want US President Barack Obama out of the White House as soon as possible, a new poll suggests.Fifty-one percent of Israelis think that any of the US presidential candidates will be better for Israel than Obama, who is set to leave office on January 20, 2017, according to the poll conducted by Israel’s Channel 1.
Saudi Arabia May be in for a Nasty Shock
The Saudi leaders are more or less openly saying that they are waiting for the departure of President Obama from the White House to resume their status of most favoured ally of the US. The permanently anti-Saudi bias of the present administration, though usually verbal rather than operational, came across clearly in the interviews with Mr Obama and his top officials in the Atlantic by Jeffrey Goldberg.
If the Israelis hate him and the Saudis hate him ... well then he must have done something right.
Notice that its Jeffrey Goldberg quoted on the Saudis, and previous to the quote above in the same article, tauting the incompetence of the Saudi leadership, it's AIPAC spin-off WINEP ...
The king did not look at the group but at a giant television screen hanging from the ceiling of the room on which was appearing prompts. Simon Henderson, the Saudi expert at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, who tells the story, writes that off to one side in the room was an aide who “furiously hammered talking points into a keyboard”.
... looks like this PR brainstorm is 100% Israeli. Which is a bit more telling, isn't it. Patrick Cockburn ain't no Alexander.
In reality, acting as the 'You want it you got it' puppet of the fusiliers, financiers, and fossil-fuelers for eight long years, Barack Obama acted against the interest of the American people on virtually every decision of any import at all that crossed his desk.
Another tell from the first article on Israel ...
And 42 percent said that Trump would get along better with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, 32 percent thought Clinton would have better relations with him while 26 percent were undecided or thought neither would manage to get along with Bibi.
... since Hillary will be Bibi's doormat this must be the Israeli's crying, 'Whatever you do, don't throw me in that Clinton briar patch!'.
Posted by: jfl | Apr 25 2016 6:25 utc | 127
Bernie Sanders Says There Is 'Evidence of Saudi Role in 9/11'
The Isreali ploy of blaming the Saudi government for 9/11 seems to be catching on. I personally suspect Israeli involvement far in excess of whatever role the Saudis - other than the patsies on the planes - played.
What Bernie and Israelis are saying is 'No re-investigation, no truth board, on 9/11!` ... the Saudis did it!
Given their funding of terrorists in Syria, Yemen, Libya and Europe ... the Saudis are the guys everyone loves to hate right now. Very astute of the Israelis, and their complicit American helpers ... the CIA, Cheney and others in the know in the Bush administration, the Pentagon? ...
Posted by: jfl | Apr 25 2016 6:40 utc | 128
Formerly T-Bear @ 116,
You mentioned Charlie Hebdo and seem to think it somehow inappropriate to question the government & media's presentation of the story. But isn't that exactly what we are all doing on this site? Are we not mocking the State Dept and govt & media for purposely excluding the truth in order to deceive the American people?
I think that's the definition of "conspiracy"-- a group secretly planning wrongdoing. I guess by accusing the govt & media of withholding the truth on international politics that makes you a conspiracy theorist, too. Did you know that the CIA coined the term "conspiracy theorist" in their memo 1035-960? Really. It was to be used to mock and intimidate Americans who were investigating the sad murder of John Kennedy. That was the beginning of our losing America, wasn't it? https://memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/20/cia-document-1035-960-foundation-of-a-weaponized-term/
The media and unthinking citizens have used it ever since -- against themselves really. If there's anything we need it's more questioning and accusing of govt & media.
The article you quoted is typical of the genre: There's something wrong with people who question govt authority. I don't think that you, on reflection, really believe that. You've just become attached to the AGW argument w/o knowing anything about the other side. And so you strike out by any means you can to hurt people who debunk AGW.
As to Charlie Hebdo, I have no idea whether people were killed in their offices. But anyone who's not afraid of criticizing authority can see there's something fishy about these short clips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Res6sCptdY4 Busted! Hilarious Keystone Cops.
Paul Craig Roberts introduces this clip. It's the second time he's weighed in as a "conspiracy theorist." First time was Sandy Hook. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40731.htm Wait for the slo-mo, gets slower & slower. Looks like perp's been pushed, hands tied together, no gun. Are we supposed to believe he's holding a pistol? That he's traded his kalishnikov or whatever for a pistol? Are they shooting blanks? Glass on at least right side of door is unbroken, still supports papers taped to it. So why are his hands tied together? Can't figure it out. Reportedly one of the brothers called a TV station from the cafe & confessed. That's in addition to leaving an ID in the car, while carefully hiding his identity with a balaclava.
Posted by: Penelope | Apr 25 2016 7:01 utc | 129
Formerly T-Bear @ 116,
You still didn't present a single fact or argument in favor of AGW. Insults aren't a substitute for arguments. I criticize the Guardian for accepting money from the Billionaire's Club to push biased and untrue scare-mongering. My charge is documented in the Senate Report, as you know.
It is the reponsibility of newsmedia to cover both sides of a controversy and they're not doing it. They've repeatedly reported "scientific" comments that all the Arctic ice is going to melt when it's only 7% below average; they should also consult the other side so that such nonsense is debunked when presenting it to the public. I can't imagine how you can argue that it's OK for a newspaper to consistently report only one side. Don't you know anything about objectivity in reporting the news? The school he works for sends a press release to the Guardian and they supplement it w a phone interview. It's their responsibility to ask tough questions like, "What are you basing that on?" And to invite comment from dissenting scientists. The article should make a slight attempt to INFORM the public as to the facts, not just pass on unthinking alarm. The school gets 15% of the govt grant off the top for "overhead. They pressure their employees to keep the gravy coming. This whole AGW bunk is a gold-mine for the climate dept & they know what they have to do to keep it coming.
Posted by: Penelope | Apr 25 2016 7:15 utc | 130
Juannie @ 119,
97% of scientists agree with AGW, huh? Did you feel that you had fulfilled the responsibility of being a citizen by just uncritically glomming onto such silliness the moment you read it? Don't you know that the corporate media is controlled by the same people who control the big corporations and the banks and the administration whose campaigns they fund? Surely you know you can only expect to find there what suits their interests. AGW suits their interests because it is the means of opening vast additional powers for themselves. Oh, the power to control energy and therefore industry & development will "officially" belong to the UN, but of course they will control it behind the scenes.
I'm sure you know that 97% never agree on anything. If you'd like to be a little more serious about what you consider knowledge you could google "97% hoax". Or, you can continue to use your mind as a kind of playground and the ideas you espouse as having no effect in the world. I don't know if we are going to get out of the fix we are in, but for sure we aren't if we don't assume responsibility for seriously analyzing the issues of the day. You're clever enough to compose witty sarcasm; you're probably clever enough to learn the other side of the issue. Good luck!
Posted by: Penelope | Apr 25 2016 7:19 utc | 131
Jackrabbit @ 124,
A good many retired scientists are speaking up about the way AGW "is ruining science." Many are former NOAA * NASA employees. They say their still-employed colleagues are not permitted to mention "natural climate change." Only Mann's hockey stick has ever proclaimed that science was unchanging-- until CO2, of course. The climate has always changed, as every study shows. It has been warmer in the past, and w/o increased CO2, but this must be hidden.
Those not on the AGW gravy train complain again & again that science should not be politicized. Willie Soon, an authority on solar science, was attacked because his published paper reported facts not supportive of AGW. He worked for the Smithsonian & received his assignments & pay from them. Yet he was attacked and slandered as having tailored his findings to the skeptic side.
He's a brilliant man who's full of integrity. But the Rockefeller foundations and the vast array of other foundations outlined in the Senate Report are desperate to finally achieve a monopoly on energy-- thru UN treaties. They are continuing to deindustrialize EU & the US thru the most basic industry of all: energy. http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/6ce8dd13-e4ab-4b31-9485-6d2b8a6f6b00/chainofenvironmentalcommand.pdf
Posted by: Penelope | Apr 25 2016 7:45 utc | 132
@ Little Chicken 129
When you present verifiable proof of your opinions, then, and only then will attention be paid your piles of shite, no matter how often they are deposited. End of discussion.
Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Apr 25 2016 8:44 utc | 133
If USA drops military drill with Seoul, North Korea will stop nuke test: North’s foreign minister Saturday 23 April 2016
On Saturday, North Korea’s foreign minister told a western news agency that if the U.S. puts an end to its annual military drills in the South, the country will stop conducting nuclear test.“Stop the nuclear war exercises in the Korean Peninsula, then we should also cease our nuclear tests,” Foreign Minister Ri Su Yong said in his first-ever interview with Western media. “If we continue on this path of confrontation, this will lead to very catastrophic results, not only for the two countries but for the whole entire world as well.”
Foreign Minister Ri Su Yong also said that North Korea has the right to maintain a nuclear deterrent and will not be bullied by international sanctions.
How long does it take for the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate to spit in the eye of an opponent bearing an olive branch and to reject peace out of hand ... ?
Obama rejects North Korea’s offer to suspend missile tests Sunday 24 April 2016
President Obama said Sunday he doesn’t take seriously North Korea’s offer to suspend its missile program if the U.S. ends annual military exercises with South Korea.
... one day.
Posted by: jfl | Apr 25 2016 9:26 utc | 134
Saudi-backed Yemeni Army captures Mukalla from Al-Qaeda
The Saudi-backed Yemeni National Army – alongside private security forces – imposed full control over the strategic city of Al-Mukalla in southern Yemen after a day long battle with Al-Qaeda of the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP).
Al-CIAduh hands over the city to the Saudi 'regulars'.
Democrats move to shut down criticism of Clinton’s Wall Street ties
In the aftermath of last week’s New York primary and the run-up to key primaries this week in Northeastern states, a chorus of Democratic figures has demanded that Bernie Sanders, the self-styled “democratic socialist” challenging Hillary Clinton for the party’s presidential nomination, mute criticism of the frontrunner’s ties to Wall Street, as a first step to conceding the nomination.The attacks are focused on Sanders’ demand that Clinton make public the transcripts of speeches she gave to major financial firms in exchange for millions of dollars in fees. Clinton has flatly refused to release the transcripts, which would expose her flattery of financial parasites whose reckless and criminal activities crashed the US and world economy and caused untold social devastation.
- Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada last week attacked Sanders for carrying out a “negative campaign,” while
- Dick Durbin of Illinois, the No. 2 Senate Democrat, called on Sanders to help “unify our party and stand behind Hillary Clinton.”
- Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia called Sanders’ demands that Clinton publish her speeches to Wall Street firms “over the top,” and
- Senator Robert Menendez of New Jersey scolded him for attacking “Secretary Clinton’s honesty and integrity.”Sanders, for his part, is a long-time ally of the party establishment and has repeatedly said he will support the eventual Democratic nominee.
If the fire Berns out on demand we'll know the fix is in. How will all those people crying for change who've been Berned react?
Write-in people you actually want to serve you as president, representative, and senator on your ballot on 8 November, and every election day thereafter.
1. Write-in / 'spoil' more ballots than either the donkey or the elephant receives in as many districts as possible.
2. Organize our own polls and primaries to elect majority candidates and to seize power in those districts next election.
3. Spread the word to all the other districts coast to coast : it CAN happen here.
4. Rinse and repeat.
If we had begun in 2004 we'd be home by now.
jfl, speaking of Korea--
"
“After destroying North Korea’s 78 cities and thousands of her villages, and killing countless numbers of her civilians, [General] LeMay remarked, “Over a period of three years or so we killed off – what – twenty percent of the population.” It is now believed that the population north of the imposed 38th Parallel lost nearly a third its population of 8 – 9 million people during the 37-month long “hot” war, 1950 – 1953, perhaps an unprecedented percentage of mortality suffered by one nation due to the belligerance of another" http://www.globalresearch.ca/know-the-facts-north-korea-lost-close-to-30-of-its-population-as-a-result-of-us-bombings-in-the-1950s/22131
We stopped bombing cuz there was nothing left over two stories high.
They continue to ask for a simple peace treaty, but we won't give it to them. A few years ago during war games, we overflew them & dropped dummy bombs!
Posted by: Penelope | Apr 25 2016 9:57 utc | 137
Oh, no. While I was getting that Korea link, I discovered Global Research has become a "conspiracy theorist", too:
"THE BRUSSELS ATTACKS: FAKE VIDEOS AND IMAGES "THE MAN IN THE HAT"
They don't mention the drill that Brussels held though. I posted a link to it in several places. It was complete w realistic wounds, but everyone was grinning at each other enjoying their "injuries."
Posted by: Penelope | Apr 25 2016 10:11 utc | 138
The Sultan, his feelings hurt much.
...
"Ok. The police are at the door. No joke."
http://m.sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160424/1038518096/turkey-arrest-reporter-twitter.html
Posted by: MadMax2 | Apr 25 2016 10:47 utc | 139
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/04/17/the-great-green-game-china-to-supply-paris-agreement-sanctioned-coal-power-to-europe/ EU to meet restricted CO2 emissions will import power from China-- produced by coal burning plants!!
There's a lot of this unintended consequences of the climate agreement. Last time I looked, producing ethanol and biofuels created more CO2 than using oil or gasoline, because farmers sacrificed forests, etc to grow the corn or other biomass needed.
And Britain is starting a hideously expensive hydrogen project: They split natural gas, burying the carbon part beneath the North Sea, then they pipe the hydrogen fraction to people's homes for cooking. Hydrogen is so flammable that just mixing it with air often causes spontaneous combustion. It also causes brittle, fatigued metal.
De-industrialization on steroids, guys. Club of Rome decided years ago that their global oligarchy w/b easier to achieve if everyone had the same standard of living. I keep telling you that they are purposely taking down the economy of EU and of US. All over southern Europe child labor is back! If Dad's disabled and the welfare net is gone, kids are giving up going to school to work. I saw a program on Telesur last year-- kids 10, 12, 15.
Britain: 2012 story-- hypothermia deaths double. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/9078273/Hypothermia-deaths-double-over-five-years.html
It's important that you should see thru the AGW hoax soon; it's killing people.
Posted by: Penelope | Apr 25 2016 10:48 utc | 140
Penelope @132:
A good many retired scientists are speaking up ... Many are former NOAA * NASA employees....
This sounds like a dodge. I suspect that a very very small percentage of those that have retired are supporting the skeptics. And NOAA/NASA employees? The largest pool of ex-scientists would be from academia.
Those not on the AGW gravy train complain again & again that science should not be politicized.
This neutral statement doesn't support your case. Virtally ALL scientists would agree. And "politicized" works both ways. The skeptics (many of whom are funded/promoted by energy interests) politicize also.
And your "deindustrialization" motive is dubious. USA manufacturing has moved to high-tech, high-ticket items like defense. And we lost our edge in other manufacturing - like autos - decades ago.
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If it is true that scientists are staying silent because they would lose their job if they spoke the truth then outraged retired scientists should/would be speaking out in droves. And if they are so driven by financial concerns, then they could likely get $$ from energy companies or energy billionaires (like the Kochs) to do so.
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 25 2016 12:54 utc | 141
Penelope @138
Thanks for the link to the Brussels attack.
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 25 2016 12:56 utc | 142
Obama sends 250 more SpecOps to Syria
Reuters mentions "Race for Raqqa"; More than 2 months after MoA
THE RACE FOR RAQQAU.S. special forces teams providing close air support could ultimately help the Kurds advance on Raqqa, Islamic State's main Syrian stronghold and de facto capital.
“This places them in another quandary. Do they coordinate their attack on Raqqa with the Syrian army and the Russian air force, who are ... advancing on Raqqa? ... The question is who's going to get there first,” Ripley said.
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 25 2016 13:11 utc | 143
jfl
@114: This is from people on Bernie's side! "Making the democratic Democratic Party stronger" ... so that Hillary can ... "be successful in November".@136: If the fire Berns out on demand we'll know the fix is in. How will all those people crying for change who've been Berned react?
The Democratic Party is 'owned' by the 'Blue-dog'/"Centrist"/'DINO' 'establishment' and their monied backers. Progressive candidates are not supposed to win and several barriers have been erected to ensure that this expectation is realized: Super-delegates; Super Tuesday; 'party loyalty' oaths and policing, etc. For this reason, Black Agenda Report (BAR) called progressives that run for the Democratic nomination "Sheepdogs" who protect the 'mainstream' candidate's left flank.
Despite his nominal independence, Bernie is a Democratic loyalist that: 1) has caucused with the Democrats for two decades; 2) had the support of Schumer and Obama in his election to the US Senate; and 3) calls Hillary a 'friend' (another excuse not to attack her).
Sanders' 'issue-oriented' campaign refrains from attacking Hillary on character issues - he has no answer to her protests that she *IS* a progressive and she easily brushes aside his questions of 'judgment'. He issued a press-release about DNC-Hillary collusion WEEKS AFTER it was revealed (and only one day before the crucial NY primary!). AFAIK, Sanders has not made an issue of Hillary's winning 6 of 6 coin flips OR the numerous voting irregularities reported to have occurred in the NY primary.
Sanders' meekness sharply contrasts with the forcefullness with which other candidates have taken on Hillary:
In the very first Democratic debate, Lincoln Chafee forcefully questioned Hillary's character. A debate or two later, Sanders would exclaim: 'enough with the e-mails' - and not raise the e-mail issue again despite damaging revelations.Trump has attacked Hillary on her e-mails and character for months. He called her "the worst Secretary of State" ever while Sanders hardly ever mentions her time as Sec. of State. And, while Sanders refused to attack Hillary during the crucial NY primary campaign, Trump issued the "Crooked Hillary" moniker just before that primary.
Sanders' calls for a funny kind of "revolution". His "revolution" is focused on re-orienting the Democratic Party: working within the establishment to change the establishment. Sanders has NOT tried to build an independent movement that could pressure the Democratic Party and his campaign's hope to entice Super-delegates at the Convention is a pipe-dream.
VOTE THIRD PARTY
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 25 2016 14:31 utc | 144
I think a lot of progressives will find 'crooked' Hillary to be too distant from their anti-oligarch, anti-empire views. More progressives will abandon the Democrats in this election than any since 2000.
The biggest factor in whether Hillary wins or not, though, will likely be the Republican Party split: the biggest since Ross Perot's populist run - which resulted in the election of Bill Clinton.
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 25 2016 15:34 utc | 145
Interesting book review from John Gray
http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2016/04/left-wing-firebrands-who-turned-right
Posted by: aaaa | Apr 25 2016 22:24 utc | 146
Jackrabbit @ 142, You're welcome. Here's more Brussels attack, including the drill photos. https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/03/27/the-dark-truth-behind-the-brussels-attacks/
In the newscoverage for the "real" event one of the "witnesses" was still wearing his badge on a lanyard, though it wasn't entirely visible. I guess they filmed the witness statements at the drill. There was very little video coverage of the event online. Probably they only showed the "wounded" on local TV.
Posted by: Penelope | Apr 26 2016 6:02 utc | 147
Jackrabbit, If I remember right, you indicated that you had seen the video of David Wheeler (lobbyist for gun control) in a 2nd Sany Hook role: swat/FBI on the day of the incident.
There's another wrinkle to that. It was a set up to discredit internet investigators (aka conspiracy theorists). Wheeler DID play the FBI part, and he did try to hide himself, as if not wanting to be recognized. But his uniform was incorrect, which drew attention to him. Just to be positive that he would be recognized he was centerpieced as the cover photo on FIVE major media. Of course Wheeler wasn't needed as FBI; they had plenty. So why did they risk their main lobbyist?
When he was recognized and an expose video had been circulated on the net, they struck! When they put Wheeler in those cover positions he was wearing dark glasses, so all they had to do to cast doubt on the identification was add a fleshy earlobe to the one visible ear BEFORE publication. Then, to complete the debunking they trotted out another guy that they said had been the swat/FBI image. One of his ears in the debunking photo looks like it's dripping down his face. But never mind. The debunk worked.
Posted by: Penelope | Apr 26 2016 6:19 utc | 148
Jackrabbit,
Warmists have been invited to publicly debate the issue many times, but refuse. On the 1 or 2 occasions that they have done so they were beaten. In my personal experience in researching AGW I have found every argument to contain a demonstrable error. I find many presentations to be fraudulent: In several cases a graph that shows oscillating values has been cropped to show only the portion that is ascending.
AGW consists of tremendous amounts of money including money from abroad, monopolization of the press, support by the US administration, control over most grants. Models which have universally failed. Arguments/presentations that are plausible-- so long as one doesn't know the answering position. I have been unable to find any factual basis whatever in support of AGW. I am always willing to examine any argument or fact.
The money power behind the warmists attacks scientists who don't agree, even threatening them with a RICO prosecution. Climategate revealed that warmist scientists tried to prevent publication of opposing studies. I have not seen a single instance of this behavior by Skeptics.
The Heartland funds a skeptics climate convention. Fully 40% of skeptic literature comes from this one source. The conservative think tanks put most of their climate money behind supporting carbon regulations & taxes. The Heartland is largely funded by Koch Industries, who have oil interests. I don't like some of their political activities, but who else is going to defend the oil & gas industry? The American people don't have the money to defend the energy that they need. It isn't illegal to defend one's own industry, and they are completely open in doing so. Compare them with the Rockefellers' wars, thuggery & looting.
Warmists, acting under the instrux of their overseers have slandered the skeptics' funding, alleging hidden, "dark" money for which there is no evidence. Skeptics have NOT on any occasion that I know of slandered warmists' funding. The Senate report isn't slander. It is a factual, documented expose of hidden financing. It is the truth and that must always be acceptable.
The image of well-funded skeptics powered by the oil companies is mostly false. Mega oil
is on the warmist side. The skeptics also have a few non-profits, and all sorts of blogs.
The only reason that a movement so underfunded and so seriously outweighed in the media is STILL not beaten is that it has the truth on its side. Therein lies its power.
Posted by: Powell | Apr 26 2016 7:48 utc | 149
The Cuban People Will Overcome
I shall soon turn 90, such an idea would never have occurred to me and it was never the result of an effort, it was sheer chance. I will soon be like everyone else. We all reach our turn.But the ideas of the Cuban communists will remain as proof that on this planet, working with fervor and dignity, can produce the material and cultural wealth that humans need, and we must fight relentlessly to obtain these. To our brothers in Latin America and the world we must convey that the Cuban people will overcome.
We will set forth on the march forward and we will perfect what we should perfect, with the utmost loyalty and united force, just as Martí, Maceo and Gómez, in an unstoppable march.
Remarks by the leader of the Cuban Revolution, Fidel Castro Ruz, during the closing of the 7th Party Congres
Posted by: jfl | Apr 26 2016 9:02 utc | 150
File under Terminally Tone-Deaf ...
US seizure of USD 2 billion in Iranian assets highway robbery: Zarif
“It is a theft. Huge theft. It is highway robbery. And believe you me, we will get it back,” Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif told The New Yorker in an interview published on Monday.
Highway robber : yes that's an apt description of the once mighty US empire. As the British privateers - and American in the Colonial days and for a while thereafter - can attest its a very profitable business - while it lasts. But when the Big Kahuna does bite the dust his henchmen and lackeys look like the slime, the garden variety criminals they and he really are under all their shuck and jive.
Israel training Saudi forces: Hezbollah
Dozens of Saudi military officers are being trained after secret contacts developed into military cooperation, Sheikh Naim Qassem told Lebanese media."The Saudis are currently fulfilling the cycle of the Israeli project in public and secret meetings,” Sheikh Qassem was reported as saying.
"So why are Israel’s allies in the region anchored by Saudi Arabia? Because Iran’s regime loathes Israel," it said, also mentioning Hezbollah which "threatens Israel."
When Israeli minister of military affairs "Moshe Ya’alon was speaking at INSS (Institute of National Securities Studies) he made an offhand comment that he 'prefers IS (Daesh) to Iran,'" the JPost said.
What do you suppose the Shia - who pump the oil, run the refineries, load the tankers, and are daily oppressed and periodically beheaded by the Saudis think of the 'good thing' the Saudis and the Israelis have going together?
Not to mention al-CIAduh and the 'Devout' Daesh?
Saudi unveils ambitious plan to become arms manufacturer
Defense Minister Mohammad Bin Salman Al Saud said on Monday Saudi Arabia would boost its military sector dramatically so it can purchase 30-50 percent of its needs for weapons from domestic manufacturers.“Does it make sense that we are the world’s fourth-largest military spenders in 2014 and third in 2015 and we do not even have a local military industry?” the Saudi defense minister said.
“We spend more on military than the [British], more than France, and we do not even have a local military industry.”
So now the Saudis are going to have the same Shia above - I don't imagine there's a Sunni in Saudi Arabia who's ever done a day's work, do you? - are going to put into those weapons? Their hearts and souls? or their spare monkey wrenches? a la the occupied provincials of Donbass manufacturing armament for the Kiev NAZIs.
Terminally Tone-Deaf. So out of touch with what the curl their lips to call ... 'meat space' ... that they cannot hear the crescendo, their very own crescendi building in the background.
Say goodnight, your Graceless Majesties; your Nobel Peace Prize lying, murderous, thieving Laureate-ship.
Posted by: jfl | Apr 26 2016 14:17 utc | 151
Terminally Tone-Deaf II ...
How Wartime Washington Lives in Luxury
In no place in America are the abrupt changes in the nation’s security posture so keenly reflected in real estate and lifestyle than the Washington, D.C. metropolitan area. In the decade after 9/11, it has grown into a sprawling, pretentious representation of the federal government’s growth, vices and prosperity, encompassing the wealthiest counties, the best schools, and some of the highest rates of income inequality in the country.
Why do they (ordinary Americans) hate us (the pigs in Washington DC)?
Posted by: jfl | Apr 26 2016 14:21 utc | 152
more on the stock exchange movements on the eve of sept11
http://www.lesechos.fr/11/09/2007/LesEchos/20001-166-ECH_11-septembre-2001---des-volumes-inhabituels-sur-les-options-peu-avant-l-attentat.htm#
old article but still worth reading
Posted by: Mina | Apr 26 2016 14:23 utc | 153
Terminally Tone-Deaf III. As Iraq goes, so goes Arabia?
Followers of Sadr rally in Baghdad in support of reforms
Protesters waved Iraqi flags and sang songs praising al-Sadr while chanting slogans against those blocking change in the political and economic system.Local media said the gathering was the biggest in the capital in weeks as demonstrators filled a main road stretching nearly two km (1.3 miles) from Tahrir to the Green Zone, a heavily fortified area which is home to main government offices and the parliament. Security forces blocked off all other roads leading to the square with razor wire and concrete blocks.
Posted by: jfl | Apr 26 2016 14:24 utc | 154
Erdogan provides the pincer to the Obama/Merkel/Turkey terrorist safe zone along the Turkish border?
Turkey FM: Ankara to station US rocket system on Syria border
In an interview with Turkey’s Haberturk newspaper published on Tuesday, [Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut] Cavusoglu said the US High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) would be "deployed on the Turkish border in May as part of an agreement" with Washington.The system would enable Turkey to "hit ISIS (Daesh) targets more effectively," Cavusoglu claimed.
HIMARS would allow Turkey to hit Daesh positions within a 90-kilometer (56-mile) range, while Turkish artillery has a limited range of only 40 kilometers (24 miles), the minister stated.
He said the deployment is meant to seal off an area around the city of Manbij in Aleppo Province, northern Syria.
Turkey is seeking to establish a safe zone in the 98-kilometer (60-mile) stretch between Manbij and the border to shelter Syrian refugees, the Turkish foreign minister said.
Cavusoglu made the remarks during a recent trip to the Saudi capital, Riyadh.
I guess 100 is what the depth of the strip will be ... just 100 kilometers rather than 100 miles?
And if Russia/Syria shoot down the Turkish missiles? Can they? I'm sure they will if they can. Too good an opportunity to miss.
Posted by: jfl | Apr 26 2016 14:32 utc | 155
cia trg manual
---------------------
how to make a country turn right...
case study --- india.
the ghandi clan in india suffered the same tragic fate as the kennedys in usa.
indira ghandi was assasinated by her sikh bodyguard, allegedly in revenge for the indian army's assault
on the holy sikh temple. rajiv ghandi was blown to bits at point blank, allegedly by a tamil tiger
suicide bomber,his bro sanjay died in a light air craft *accident*
ian fleming's law of probability...
*once is accident,....................thrice, enemy action* !
who could be that enemy ???
the same one who has done these leaders in ?
nepals king birendra [murdered]
najib of malaysia, [under intense attack]
yingluck of thailand [ousted]
prez raja of sri lanka [ousted]
yatohama of jp [ousted]
rudd of oz [ousted]
sukarno of indon [ousted]
for exactly the same reason ......CHINA ???
*It must be a source of worry to Rajiv Gandhi. And why not? If we regard his proximity to the Soviet leaders of his time, his landmark handshake with Deng Xiaopeng and his strident disapproval of the Chandrasekhar government's refuelling facilities given to American war planes that were heading for the Gulf during the first war against Iraq. All this made him stick out like a sore thumb with the Americans. Just compare the two situations. BJP's foreign minister Jaswant Singh invites American troops to fight the Afghan war from Indian soil. And here was Mr Gandhi unrelenting on a core principle against foreign troops.*
http://www.countercurrents.org/ind-naqwi271106.htm
Posted by: denk | Apr 26 2016 17:10 utc | 156
@127 Yeah, that Obama really is tough when it comes to Israeli genocide ...
US to Give Israel Largest Military Aid Package in History
"We are prepared to sign an MOU (memorandum of understanding) with Israel that would constitute the largest single pledge of military assistance to any country in U.S. history," a White House official told Reuters on Tuesday.
... funds it like no other Nobel Peace Prize Laureate slash US presidential war criminal in history.
Posted by: jfl | Apr 26 2016 17:31 utc | 157
@153 mina
Thanks for the link. I googled the authors' names and found Detecting abnormal trading activities in option markets, Available online 26 March 2015.
I haven't read it yet, but it looks interesting. Here's a table from same, Summary of airline sector Jan 1996–Apr 2006.
This one's in English.
Posted by: jfl | Apr 26 2016 17:59 utc | 158
@153 mina
Lars Schall, Clues for 9/11 Terror Trading, which came up in that same search, is a summary of findings of the paper above, and draws attention to its findings in options trading in the financial industry ,,,
When asked about the difference between the latest version of that work and the ones before, Paul Zarembka replied:The difference in the present version of the Chesney, et al., paper from the 2010 and 2011 versions is that the airline sector is highlighted in the main paper, while a Supplemental Appendix is now used to focus on the financial sector, and some other firms. In other words, the discussion is now, for the most part, split and the main paper is shortened thereby. The methodology used and data reported earlier are unchanged, but some important new data are provided for the financial sector that were not reported earlier.
Within the airline sector over the period 1996 to 2006, as before, eight of fifteen cases with evidence for informed trades relate to the events of September 11, 2001. Within the financial sector the earlier evidence remains, but now in the Appendix. There is, however, more extensive analysis to cover the period of the 2007-2009 financial meltdown. In fact, lots of significant evidence is obtained for that period. The expanded list of firms analyzed includes AIG, Bear Stearns, Fannie May, Freddie Mac, Goldman Sachs, Lehman, Wachovia, and Wells Fargo, along with HSBC and five centered in Europe. The Appendix could be converted in the future to a regular stand-alone paper focusing on finance.
Posted by: jfl | Apr 26 2016 18:09 utc | 159
@156 denk
You and Tony C seem both to be partisans of the Plutocrats' Republic when it comes to your shared, all-consuming fascination with the USA ... but you've picked different vehicles for the US' aims in Thailand, Tiny Tony C has the Shinawatra clan as the stooges of the USA and you have the USA overthrowing them. Maybe you should compare notes. Full marks for both of your 'pure hatred', though, as St Clair quotes Cockburn. I think Tony C is on the PRC's payroll, although I think you are driven purely by hate.
I agree with both of your assessments of our USA for the most part. I just don't believe that butter won't melt in the mouths of the Plutocrats' of the Republic of China, as you and Tony both seem to do, as they walk on the waters, of the Mekong, for instance.
Tony C seems not to care for the interests of the Thai people at all, he's totally given himself over to geopolitical power concerns. He's rooting for the Royal Thai Army Dictatorship in Thailand! I can't imagine you're so far gone.
Posted by: jfl | Apr 26 2016 18:31 utc | 160
jfl 160
* Tiny Tony C has the Shinawatra clan as the stooges of the USA and you have the USA overthrowing them.*
both of us could be right.
murkka's road to full spectrum domination is littered with the corps of stooges who's pass their used by date.
how many times have i highlighted this very astute observation here ???
+Located on the geostrategic Malacca Strait, Malaysia is a predominantly Muslim oil-producing nation with
a "Look East" policy allying itself with Japan and China. Last year the Malaysian and Chinese governments established an economic alliance, which includes Asian access to world oil reserves. In the eyes of Washington and its allies, these are sufficient grounds to treat Kuala Lumpur as an adversary.
Even though the Malaysian police force has cooperated closely with the US Embassy in the war on terror,
which led to arrests of top-ranking Al Qaeda-linked terrorists, that is not good enough. The late Moammar Gaddhafi of Libya and Syrian President Bashar al-Assad also aided Washington in post-911 anti-terrorism, and look where it got them. It is not enough to be a friend of America. For a leader to survive, he must be a groveling yes-man, a political slave - and never mind America's long-forgotten principles of sovereignty or self-determination. +
http://www.rense.com/general96/mh370.html
ironically tony c's take on thailand also intrigued me ......for exactly the opposite reason to yours !
i think yingluck ,*murkkan stooge* or otherwise, was brougt down by the usual suspect cuz she committed the one cardinal sin , cozying up with china. [1]
+China and Thailand enjoy a long standing relationship over thirty six years. Their relationship in the past has testified that China-Thailand ties serve as a model for peaceful co-existence, mutually beneficial cooperation and common development. This visit was a major diplomatic initiative strengthening the bilateral ties and has opened a new chapter in their traditional friendship. During the visit the two nations signed a numerous documents on strengthening cooperation in trade, justice, disaster management and other areas. Thailand became the first country among ASEAN to sign a Plan of Action for the twenty-first century with China, to establish strategic cooperative relations with China and to sign a zero tariff agreement on trading vegetables and fruits. [2]
This visit is significant for Thailand because the Chinese Vice President placed a four point proposal to
promote China-Thailand relations, emphasizing the need to elevate their strategic cooperation to a higher level, enhance high level exchanges, add impetus to the growth of bilateral ties and to deepen their cultural exchanges.
The most important was the currency swap deal between the Bank of Thailand and the People’s Bank of China, worth 70 billion RMB to strengthen trade and investment. This agreement will permit Thai and Chinese exporters to settle their trade deals in their own currencies, thus decreasing the influence of US dollar in their trade. This agreement will last for three years and will be extended by mutual consent
[3]. +
yingluck had just planted a bullseye on her own back !
leaders got busted by the usual suspects right after they party up with the chinese, the list is long
and illuminating.
think ian fleming's law of probability !
wayne madsen is another writer who invited *gossips*, but i'll take his pov on thailand over tony c's.
shill or no shill.
at the end of the day we have to rely on our own critical thinking, reality check, circumstantial evidences, historical background and last but not least, our hunch.
so far my six sense has never failed me !
w madsen [some call him cia] on thailand
http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/12257
Posted by: denk | Apr 27 2016 3:11 utc | 161
jfl 160
*You and Tony C seem both to be partisans of the Plutocrats' Republic when it comes to your shared, all-
consuming fascination with the USA* [1]
my compilation of uncle sham's crimes isnt available on other alternate media, never mind the msm.
i'd have thought any anti-imperialist would appreciate it !
how does it make me a prc supporter btw ???
this reminds me of libya when violence first broke out..
when brian and me suggested cia' hand in the unrest we were branded by some *veterans* here as *assad apologists* !
frankly im tired of correcting such elementary logical fallacies.
*I agree with both of your assessments of our USA for the most part. I just don't believe that butter won't
melt in the mouths of the Plutocrats' of the Republic of China, as you and Tony both seem to do, as they walk on the waters, of the Mekong, for instance.*
there u go again with your *china no angel either* refrain !
since no country is without blemish, argument like this amounts to a carte blanche for the unitedsnake to attack ANY country at will, !
there'r even *progressives* who claim that in tibet, xinjiang, cia is doing the *right thing* for once [sic]..!
*tony c an agent *?
it crossed mind mind once, but for exactly opposite reason to yours !
i think the thaksin clan was brought down by cia.
i posted a reply on that but its eaten by the spam software, lets just leave it at that.
*driven by hate*
i stand guilty as charged.
murkka, a destroyer of lives, families, societies, environment.
its fortune was built on the misery of the rest of the world.
in the previous list i omitted sk,
by tweaking the nk boogeyman, uncle sham has managed to turn another china's friend into potential enemy.
another feather in the cap. !
Posted by: denk | Apr 27 2016 16:06 utc | 162
Well, you're certainly right in so far as you go ... although I have no way of judging some of your assertions ... like the assassination of the Nepali royal family by one of its own ... but in general, yeah. We were there and we done all of that.
But we were, and yet are, 'just' the biggest, baddest thugs and goons among the "western" pack, with all of Europe / Oceania hanging on our coattails, since WWII, for sure, maybe WWI, and you seem to have lost that part of the perspective. Now with the US' sun sinking slowly in the West the same old thugs and goons from whose loins we sprang and whom we used to 'lead' are beginning to stir their stumps and rise once again. Intentionally, at any rate, probably - hopefully - they cannot deliver. But of course the formerly exclusive western disease has now globalized, spread world-wide. It ain't just the Japanese (Taiwanese and Koreans) anymore.
Posted by: jfl | Apr 29 2016 11:33 utc | 163
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oct 2012,
*Since the United States handed control of Okinawa back to Japan in 1972 there have been 25 murders, 127 rapes, 306 assaults, 25 arsons, 385 burglaries and 2,827 thefts by US troops. There have been more than 170 courts-martial for sexual assault, but the Pentagon prefers to keep these cases as hushed as it possibly can. It doesn’t always succeed; in 1995, 40 years to the day after little Yumiko’s murder by a US Marine, two Marines and a sailor kidnapped a 12-year-old girl before brutally beating her, binding her with duct tape and gang raping her. They made no effort to cover their tracks.
....................................
Marine Corps Lt. Gen. Earl Hailston on okinawans who protested...
* those are just a bunch of goddamned “nuts and a bunch of wimps” * [1]
-------------------------------------------------------
on judgement day,
god is determined to nail the snake for its epic crimes on earth.
he slammed a charge sheet of 5000 pages on the desk and fireed off his first shot.
*u ought to go to hell for what u did to the native americans *
snake
+ the only good injun is a dead injun +
god
*how could u be so cruel to the chagosians ?*
snake
+there' were only some tarzans and man fridays my honor,
the brit fm can vouch for it , u cant find more honorable witness than those.+
*jeju* ?
+u mean those uneducated, ignorant farmers and fishers, good bye and good riddance !* ? [2]
*okinawa, those were harmless and gentle folks* ?
+yeah but why do u bother with some nuts and wimps +
*marshall island* ?
+actually i treated them like your *chosen people*, the israelis my lord+
*indonesia genocide ?*
+that was actually a masterpiece, sending 3m commies bastards to an early grave,hehehe+
*east timor massacre?*
+folks were actually in RAPTURE, a blessing in disguise +
*Indochina, 4m deaths ?*
+fucking kooks+
*u put the me in flame*
+if i didnt fight them sandniggers terrarists over there, i'd be fighting them in washington dc+
.................
after throwing 5000 charges at the snake god still is getting nowhere,
in exasperation, he brought out his coup de grace..
*now your most heinous crime yet, igniting ww4 in 2017and brought about the end of the world*
snake was getting pissed off by the incessant grilling ...
+goddamned it, u know i was a firefighter right ?,
how's a man to make a living if there aint no fires ?+
[1]
http://morallowground.com/2012/10/18/the-american-rape-of-okinawa-continues/
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*The Governor of Jeju at the time admitted that the repression of the Island’s 300,000 residents led to the murder of as many as 60,000 Islanders, with another 40,000 desperately fleeing in boats to Japan. Thus, one-third of its residents were either murdered or fled during the “extermination” campaign. Nearly 40,000 homes were destroyed and 270 of 400 villages were leveled. One of Robert’s cohorts, Colonel Rothwell Brown, claimed that the Islanders were simply “ignorant, uneducated farmers and fishers,”
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/pressroom/news/2012/04/27/us-and-south-korea-assault-an-idyllic-island--not-for-the-first-time
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