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February 14, 2016

"Race To Raqqa" Discussion Thread

To provide additional comment space for further discussion of the "Race to Raqqa" in Syria.

The earliest mention of this race came from Andrew Korybko in October 2015:

At that time the U.S. formed the Syrian Democratic Forces out of the Syrian-Kurdish YPG in eastern Syria and an assortment of Arab groups. The idea was to send that force against the Islamic State in Raqqa but the Kurds declined. We see a similar  scenario as discussed then but now with Turkish and Saudi troops aiming for Raqqa.

Our pieces on the race:

Today Elijah J Magnier provided additional information about the race from his sources within the Syrian-Russian-Iranian-Hizb command in Damascus:

Please at least skim through the above pieces before jumping into the discussion.

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Posted by: james | Feb 15 2016 17:59 utc | 101

The "Northern Thunder" military "exercise" organized by the Saudis has placed a large "coalition" force poised to invade Syria. I would like to ask again if there is information indicating that the 101st Airborne will lead any portion of these forces into Syria?

Posted by: Perimetr | Feb 15 2016 18:08 utc | 102

somebody@99- Kurdish groups re Turkey

Posted by: Nana2007 | Feb 15 2016 18:10 utc | 103

I was going to post this in the previous thread, but the "not related to the war in Syria" title threw me, because it is indeed related to that.

In an earlier thread the merits of the Sanders candidacy were being debated, and I felt and expressed that his stance on domestic issues might outweigh what he thinks about international affairs. This is and was very wrongheaded of me, as a couple of articles at counterpunch.org this morning have pointed out to me. It's all connected. Here's the second very good one:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/15/special-places-in-hell-for-madeline-hillary-and-bernie/

Sanders' advocacy towards the Saudis as the ones who should be leading the way in the Middle East simply beggars understanding. I often wondered about that granite mountain supposedly representing Martin Luther King in DC. This country's common wealth, its treasury, has been diverted into military might, a granite mountain issuing forth rivers of blood, and Sanders has said that's fine and dandy because he's only concerned about domestic issues.

We can't have another wink-wink president! Time to stop hoping Bernie will say something we can believe in - that ship has sailed.

Posted by: juliania | Feb 15 2016 18:48 utc | 104

@104

. . . or sunk.

Posted by: juliania | Feb 15 2016 18:49 utc | 105

NPR news here in the USA has been heavy on hospitals in northern Syria being bombed or hit by missiles. Russian, of course. It began with 2 hospitals and has grown to 4 last I heard.

Posted by: jawbone | Feb 15 2016 18:56 utc | 106

@ jawbone | Feb 15, 2016 1:56:09 PM | 106

It seems those incubators for infants in Kuwait have grown somewhat in the meantime, but into whole hospitals? Good luck trying to see if that propaganda will work a second time; it certainly went missing when Zionist Terrorist-Thug-Thief Occupied Palestine did the same to Gazan hospitals and schools (and homes). I suppose the 'missile' shards can tell much about maker of the missile and direction from whence it came (funny how that works, with stuff like evidence, unfounded accusations tend to wither away but may never die).

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Feb 15 2016 20:02 utc | 107

T-Bear @107

"hospitals in northern Syria being bombed or hit by missiles. Russian"

Are these moderate terrorist hospitals? Are the French involved? All to familiar a pattern here. Who writes the Western Narrative? Who or whom ever seems to only have one song to sing. And it is getting very, very stale.

The truth is on the ground! 'Blut und Stahl'

Posted by: Alberto | Feb 15 2016 20:20 utc | 108

@106-8

Here's BBC-Reuters on the Second MSF Hospital Bombed in Syria, 9 Dead. No hint of who dunit ... I guess we're sposed to conclude it was the Russians ... probably a good bet for the Beeb's/Reuters audience ... if they've been swallowing all the other swill from those swollen streams of disinformation.

Posted by: jfl | Feb 15 2016 23:26 utc | 109


jfl | Feb 14, 2016 6:20:57 PM | 70
@45 tom

*China could, China should, China won't ...*

*china could*

u sure about that ?
u think china has the kind of naval and air projection capabilities like russia, unitedsnake ?

when was the last time china intervened in a foreign war ?
thats almost 70 yrs ago in korea forchrissake,unlike the unitedsnake, china hasnt fought a war ever since.

*china should*

the usn is picking fight at china's doorstep, do u think the scs, russia should give a hand ?


Sam Paku | Feb 15, 2016 9:33:50 AM | 93

*And the coward China remains silent, pretending that nothing that happens in Syria regards to her.*

talk is cheap.
well i've got news to u son,
murkka is run by psychopaths like madeline [500000 iraq children are worth it] albright.
those *brutal* ccp actually care more about their people, they wouldnt shed blood unecessarily until they'r backed to the wall.
in korea 1950, those *cowardly* chicoms fought with vantage rifles against murkkan tanks, artilleres, bombers and kicked their ass. just ask gen macarthur.

Posted by: denk | Feb 17 2016 2:49 utc | 110

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