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February 6, 2016
Open Thread 2016-07
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Elijah J M has a couple of posts up today and yesterday… Posted by: james | Feb 6 2016 18:22 utc | 1 The U.S. should be declaring war on Iran any day now. Well, maybe a false-flag or Iranian spring to get the party started, but then the cruise missiles will fly.
Maybe the rest of the world will finally realize the profound danger posed by the criminal psychopaths actually running the United States today. And I’m 100% serious about the war part. I could care less what currency they want to use for oil trade, but the people with their fingers on the nukes report to a different master. Posted by: PavewayIV | Feb 6 2016 20:10 utc | 3 2 Posted by: Chipnik | Feb 6 2016 20:28 utc | 4 3 Posted by: Chipnik | Feb 6 2016 20:40 utc | 5 This is “perfect”: Posted by: dumbass | Feb 6 2016 20:42 utc | 6 @3 Paveway Posted by: MadMax2 | Feb 6 2016 20:54 utc | 7 Chipnik@4&5- I needed some laughs, thank you for that. Posted by: Nana2007 | Feb 6 2016 20:56 utc | 8 Saudi Arabia and Bahrain announced that they want to send Sunni soldiers in Syria to rescue the Sunni Islamist terrorists who are about to be anihilated. Posted by: virgile | Feb 6 2016 20:59 utc | 9 @9 McCain started working the Sunni Army idea ages ago. Posted by: dh | Feb 6 2016 21:44 utc | 10 @ virgile | 9 Posted by: Ort | Feb 6 2016 21:50 utc | 11 9 Posted by: Chipnik | Feb 6 2016 21:51 utc | 12 12 Posted by: Chipnik | Feb 6 2016 21:58 utc | 13 @Paveway #3 Posted by: Thirdeye | Feb 6 2016 22:01 utc | 14 @ort#11 Posted by: Thirdeye | Feb 6 2016 22:08 utc | 15 Someone asked me about the latest refugee influx on the Turkish border at the Aziz border crossing. I wrote some answers based on what I have seen in the last few days: Posted by: Petri Krohn | Feb 6 2016 22:11 utc | 16 The Ukrainian government continues to make all the wrong moves and Europe’s patience is wearing thin. Posted by: Thirdeye | Feb 6 2016 22:13 utc | 17 Iran is trying an important diplomatic rapprochement with Europe. The Iranians could have traded in Yuan but prefered the Euro. And Europe knows that to solve the refugee’s crisis it will need the Iran more than ever. Turkey and Saudi Arabia are criminal rogue states these days. Posted by: Nick | Feb 6 2016 22:43 utc | 18 Israeli military gives demolition notices to families of seven Palestinian assailants
The Israeli’s – and the all the West’s – Final solution to the ‘Palestinian problem’ proceeds on schedule. Posted by: jfl | Feb 6 2016 22:50 utc | 19 @ Posted by: Petri Krohn | Feb 6, 2016 5:11:08 PM | 16
Yes, that was my impression.. and agree the numbers are small for such a large total population … Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Feb 6 2016 22:56 utc | 20 @3 PW @14 3rdi Posted by: jfl | Feb 6 2016 23:03 utc | 21 @14 thirdeye.. no doubt iran is in a stronger position, but it doesn’t change the fact many astute folks are watching here anticipating the real possibility of all hell breaking lose, including @3 paveway… i lean towards @3’s position too… i hope i am wrong.. i think we are moving towards something much bigger in terms of world conflict… i’ve said this before and i really hope i am wrong.. Posted by: james | Feb 6 2016 23:23 utc | 22 Longtime lurker, first time poster.
Speaking of Ukraine, I’ve been watching a series of retrospective documentaries on the events of 2014 that I think people here would enjoy, called Roses Have Thorns. See write-up here. Evidently put together by an Australian in his free time (see Saker interview), it’s a very skillful assembly of MSM, existing doc film, livestream, and bystander footage, edited with minimal commentary and presented in neat chronological order starting in January 2014. It’s now on it’s 17th hour+ episode, covering mid-July 2014. Very compelling to see multiple camera angles unequivocally documenting the Posted by: Adjuvant | Feb 6 2016 23:29 utc | 23 US cannot become bankrupt. It prints paper money backed by the full faith and credit of the US gov. at will and gives it away to the ppl that don’t need it. Its value is enforced by the US armed forces as both Gadaffi (We came, we saw… he died) and Saddam Hussein (spider hole) have recently learned. There were many others before them who mocked the power of printed Mason paper and learnt the hard way. Posted by: fast freddy | Feb 6 2016 23:36 utc | 24 Washout west care to comment on these developments?
Posted by: Nana2007 | Feb 6 2016 23:56 utc | 25 Paveway–Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, and Japan are all using rubles, yuan, euros, or yen for energy transactions. OPEC has oil priced by a basket of currencies. Petrodollar recycling’s days are numbered. Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 7 2016 0:00 utc | 26 I think everyone is wondering the same thing: What’s next? How will the Assad must go! Coalition respond to the rebel/jihadi defeat in Aleppo/Northwest Syria. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 7 2016 0:17 utc | 27 @19. My coat may be under my arm, but it is while I’m standing an educational vigil in Seattle, USA, letting people know about Palestine. We got mainly support today (cars honking support and pedestrians giving us thumbs up). Posted by: lindaj | Feb 7 2016 0:19 utc | 28 …at times, prophetic. Posted by: MadMax2 | Feb 7 2016 0:37 utc | 29 1. Syria FM warns against any foreign ‘ground intervention’
2. Saudi military intervention in Syria amounts to war: Russian deputy
3. Russia Is Preparing the Syrian Army to Repel Any Turkish Incursion
4. The US And Saudi Arabia Discussing Ground Operation In Syria
5. Reshaping of the Middle East Has Begun
6. Threat of wider war looms as Saudi monarchy proposes Syria intervention
Number 1 makes the obvious case for invasion, aggression, as war from the Syrian side. Number 2 does the same from the Russian side. Number 3 above is from a Syrian source, not Russian, but is consistent with the facts thus far. Number 4 shows equivocation at State, a possible reassessment and backdown should a bluff not work. Number 5 rightly places responsibility for the increasingly bellicose developments on the USA. ‘Let’s you and him fight’. Interestingly, earlier on the assertion is made that Ankara has already committed the bulk of its best forces to fighting the Kurds in Turkey. Number 6 calls attention to the fact that it is US Defense and State that seem to be ‘in charge’. The Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is simply acquiescing to Yet Another US Aggression Led From Behind. Behind himself, as well. Posted by: jfl | Feb 7 2016 0:48 utc | 30 Posted by: PavewayIV | Feb 6, 2016 3:10:53 PM | 3 Posted by: Jack Smith | Feb 7 2016 0:54 utc | 31 The New York Jews have begun to be very concerned: their neoliberal narrative that has held together for the past 35 years is beginning to die; spools of derivatives lie waiting to unwind and bring down the system; planes like the F35 with billions invested refuse to fly; Boeing has outsourced all its wing-making to Japan and everything else. America is Jew country. Don’t tell me I didn’t tell you so (J.J. Cale I think.) Posted by: Lochearn | Feb 7 2016 1:06 utc | 32 Listen to this lunatic! https://youtu.be/_xTN1reQimI Posted by: Tom Murphy | Feb 7 2016 1:18 utc | 33 Posted by: jfl | Feb 6, 2016 5:50:03 PM | 19 Posted by: Jack Smith | Feb 7 2016 1:19 utc | 34 I have no credentials to speak of military matters, but I am impressed by a nation that’s 7,000 years old and that has watched its known enemy very closely for the last 50 years, all the while being under sanctions and yet still organizing and empowering the entire region’s resistance to this same enemy. Posted by: Grieved | Feb 7 2016 1:20 utc | 35 Bernie Sanders, Israel, Palestine, and Me Posted by: Jack Smith | Feb 7 2016 1:29 utc | 36 Anyone still remembers Edward Snowden asylum in Russia, Chelsea Manning locked up in Federal penitentiary, Leavenworth Kansas and Julian Assange holed up in Ecuadorian Embassy in London? This is what Bernie implied …Bernie Sanders backs the prosecution of Edward Snowden Posted by: Jack Smith | Feb 7 2016 1:49 utc | 37 @35 / Grieved Posted by: dumbass | Feb 7 2016 2:19 utc | 38 It’s STILL likely to be a bluff. For years & years Erdogan has refused to go into Syria in any serious way, absent the US accompanying him. Now that he has seen Saudi Arabia’s mercenaries in action I don’t think he’ll go w just them. Obviously the US is pushing him, but surely he knows the US will betray him. If he should be so reckless it’s possible that TURKEY could end up being partitioned. Posted by: Penelope | Feb 7 2016 2:29 utc | 39 Under the heading of random bullshit — Madeline Albright has come out for Hillary — saying “there’s a special place in hell for nonsupporters” — as if an endorsement by this war mongerer was a “good thing” …
as if this were not utterly insulting … Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Feb 7 2016 2:33 utc | 40 @ 33 / Tom Murphy Posted by: dumbass | Feb 7 2016 2:35 utc | 41 It is really dangerous to let KSA fight ISIS directly. Think of all the equipment that ISIS would get as trophies! But there are positive aspects as well. Apparently, GCC cannot fight in two wars and they pulled all air support from the war with ISIS to be able to fight Yemeni “rebels”. If they left Yemen to be sorted out between native factions for the sake of attacking ISIS, it would be a definite plus for Yemen, while ISIS would not gain much, perhaps, GCC equipment relies on expensive spare parts so it may be of limited use. Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 7 2016 2:43 utc | 42 >> Iran Dumps Dollar in Foreign Oil Sales Posted by: dumbass | Feb 7 2016 2:49 utc | 43 Posted by: dumbass | Feb 6, 2016 9:49:46 PM | 43 Posted by: virgile | Feb 7 2016 3:22 utc | 44 A new jaysh is born: Jaysh Halab!
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/kurdish-forces-enter-rebel-heartland-in-northern-aleppo/ | Al-Masdar News Posted by: virgile | Feb 7 2016 3:26 utc | 45 Kissinger’s Vision for U.S.-Russia Relations
Posted by: virgile | Feb 7 2016 3:53 utc | 46 38 Posted by: Chipnik | Feb 7 2016 4:11 utc | 47 MadMax2@7 – “…Does Iran see weakness in the USofA, using a fresh nuclear bond as window to dip the toe outside of the reserve currency water, so to speak…?” – I think it’s more awareness of their own strength and their relationship with China and Russia. Everyone (except the U.S.) can see which way the tide is going. Plus Iran must hate the U.S. and it’s thieving bankers. If I were them, I would do it for no other reason than to stick it to us yanks. Posted by: PavewayIV | Feb 7 2016 4:28 utc | 48 There is a mass psychosis in the USA like Germany in the 30’s up to about 43. Maybe 1 in 40? or so are not affected Posted by: Jak Jones | Feb 7 2016 4:43 utc | 49 Massive Pegida marches through Europe today Dresden, Prague, Calais, Dublin, Birmingham (UK), Amsterdam
(For perspective, record Pegida turnout January 2015, a year ago, 25,000 … Post-Cologne NYE march 3000… ) Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Feb 7 2016 5:26 utc | 50 Defenders of the petrodollar are sharpening their knives as we kibitz. “Super Sunday” tomorrow, good day to ignite the festivities. In any event, it’s coming soon. Posted by: ben | Feb 7 2016 5:31 utc | 51 eta: My error not “massive” marches, but impressive mobilization and ambition … Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Feb 7 2016 5:31 utc | 52 Whaaaat??
H/T @green_lemonnn Posted by: PavewayIV | Feb 7 2016 5:37 utc | 53 Everyone is all pissed off about Korea’s new rocket … and front page Guardian worrying about “siege” and “starvation” in Aleppo … I’m exhausted by all this … Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Feb 7 2016 5:43 utc | 54 “Russia is lining up seven state companies, including airline Aeroflot, for potential privatisation.” Posted by: ben | Feb 7 2016 6:04 utc | 55 @Susan Sunflower. I don’t trust the official numbers of demonstrators for anything. In any country. Too easy to dismiss protests because of low official numbers, which can easily be manipulated. Posted by: Mischi | Feb 7 2016 6:34 utc | 56 So, the establishment candidate is a robot. Haha Posted by: Nick | Feb 7 2016 7:32 utc | 57 @48 PavewayIV Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 7 2016 7:41 utc | 58 on election porn…. Posted by: denk | Feb 7 2016 10:18 utc | 59 @39 Jack, I posted a comment over at that blog post “Bernie Sanders, Israel, Palestine, and Me” Posted by: Tom Murphy | Feb 7 2016 10:49 utc | 60 Jak Jones says: Posted by: john | Feb 7 2016 14:06 utc | 61 http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160204/1034245385/kissinger-vision-russia-us-relations.html Posted by: Bluemot5 | Feb 7 2016 15:49 utc | 63 So, the establishment candidate is a robot. Haha Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 7 2016 16:11 utc | 64 The U.S. should be declaring war on Iran any day now. Well, maybe a false-flag or Iranian spring to get the party started, but then the cruise missiles will fly. — Paveway at 4. Posted by: Noirette | Feb 7 2016 16:21 utc | 65 − Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 7 2016 16:26 utc | 66 Tomorrow (US time zones) or today China February 8th will be Chinese New Year, the year of the donkey. For 1.3 billion Chinese are known as Spring Festival. Three cities; Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou especially train stations’ bear the blunt massive travelers for reunion in their ancestor home. Posted by: Jack Smith | Feb 7 2016 18:01 utc | 67 i think the part about ‘declaring war’ that is missed by a lot of folks is the financial sanctions all attempts at isolating others… that is tantamount to declaring war as i see it.. we don’t need an official declaration.. we get it when the financial sanctions hit.. i suppose one could say all bets are off when they remove the financial sanctions, but as with russia one can note this isn’t happening…. doesn’t look like it will happen any time soon either.. Posted by: james | Feb 7 2016 18:01 utc | 68 b, Posted by: Jack Smith | Feb 7 2016 18:06 utc | 69 @58 hopefully the referees will call a good game. Some of the calls this season have been absolutely atrocious. NFL seems to be corrupt Posted by: aaaaaa | Feb 7 2016 18:18 utc | 70 This is good, but at the same time I admit that as an American Kerry admitting the new position of the Empire had a mixed effect on me. Then I saw this, from Gibbon:
Posted by: Tom O. | Feb 7 2016 18:30 utc | 71 I’ve got a couple of new things up at https://archive.org/details/@altviewstv-fanclub Jack@69-I’ve forwarded you all my move on, Bernie, and Trump spam-thanks! Posted by: Nana2007 | Feb 7 2016 19:39 utc | 74 @ 45 / virgile Posted by: dumbass | Feb 7 2016 21:05 utc | 75 @77 da ‘the EMU (NATO) is inseparable from (if not a de facto supercolony of) Oceania’ Posted by: jfl | Feb 7 2016 21:49 utc | 76 @73 to Posted by: jfl | Feb 7 2016 21:53 utc | 78 @67 noirette Posted by: jfl | Feb 7 2016 22:03 utc | 79 interesting quote in the daily sabah – turkey propaganda channel “”In some parts of Aleppo the Assad regime has cut the north- south corridor … Turkey is under threat,” Turkish President Tayyip Erdoğan told reporters on his plane back from a visit to Latin America.” not sure how cutting the n-s corridor makes it a threat to turkey, but maybe other parts of the conversation are missing! Posted by: james | Feb 7 2016 22:52 utc | 80 @65 bm5, Thanks for the link to the link … Russia should be perceived as an essential element of any new global equilibrium. … HK at the meeting honoring Evgeny Primakov …
This lying mo’fo’ is still poison, projecting his bizzaro image of the state of world affairs. ‘… Russian military moves in the Caucasus in 2008 and Ukraine in 2014 …’
The lyin’ mo’fo’ continues : black is white and white is black … ‘… How does Russia exercise its security interests without raising alarms around its periphery and accumulating adversaries? Can Russia gain a respected place in global affairs with which the United States is comfortable? …’ I’ve started actually to read Chalmers Johnson, and he’s the same way … we’ve just made some mistakes … we need to ‘clean up our act’ and … proceed along the same way. He did get one thing right though … the rest of the world fears, hates, and despises the USA and wants nothing more to do with any state of ‘global affairs with which the United States is comfortable.’
‘Ukraine needs to be embedded in the structure of European and international security architecture … Regarding Syria, it is clear that the local and regional factions cannot find a solution on their own.’ Posted by: jfl | Feb 7 2016 22:55 utc | 81 more interesting quotes – President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, speaking over the weekend to journalists on the return flight from his Latin America trip that took him to Chile, Peru and Ecuador, said the U.S. should decide who its regional partner is, Turkey or the terrorists in Syria. Posted by: james | Feb 7 2016 22:56 utc | 82 Thanks for the links, james … found the ‘facts’ more interesting than the quotes … Posted by: jfl | Feb 7 2016 23:27 utc | 83 @85 erdogan is in a rough way… he is caught in a vice press between many within his country ( who wonder when his craziness will stop) and his bigger ambitions… i wonder if he can be counted on to do more stupid stuff? he seems like a useful fool for a number of special interest agendas.. Posted by: james | Feb 8 2016 1:14 utc | 84 Thanks jfl, enjoy. I just put another one up – some very interesting stuff about Zimbabwe, a country that’s been in the news quite a bit lately. And by “been in the news” I mean “dragged through the media mud”. @87 guest Posted by: jfl | Feb 8 2016 1:56 utc | 86 The contents of the vaccination given the pregnant women. Note all the aluminum, which many doctors believe to be neurotoxic. Posted by: Penelope | Feb 8 2016 3:06 utc | 87 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc-20VK9TbA Posted by: Bil Gates | Feb 8 2016 3:16 utc | 88 60 PKK members killed in terror raid in Cizre.. that was earlier today.. that can’t bode well for erdogan or turkey either…. Posted by: james | Feb 8 2016 4:04 utc | 89 Is China Being Wooed by Fantasies of Western ‘Acceptance’? Good question …
… Is the USA dangling G2 status before the Chinese oligarachs and are they falling for it? With Henry K’s overture – such as it is – to Russia is the US triangulating, trying to play off Russia and China against one another other as ‘real-partner’ of the US? Posted by: jfl | Feb 8 2016 10:49 utc | 90 >> Youtube vid of Billionaire Bill Gates discussing his plan to reduce the population using vaccines to cause sterilisation Posted by: dumbass | Feb 8 2016 11:35 utc | 91 The pollution problem really is a slo-mo global catastrophe. Doing nothing to stop it — which has long been the current and foreseeable plan — for longer will lead to the need to institute policies that are even more dramatic. Posted by: dumbass | Feb 8 2016 11:37 utc | 92 Paul Craig Roberts and Michael Hudson have some free advice for Vladimir Putin …
… let’s hope that the Russians who care for Russia and can see through the phony G2 talk take it. Posted by: jfl | Feb 8 2016 12:19 utc | 93 thanks to many for interesting links, not that i have managed to read them all for now. Posted by: Noirette | Feb 8 2016 14:30 utc | 94 re 96. That’s a very good article about Valls. He is certainly in power these days, but where he’ll go after the 2017 election is hard to say. Into the wilderness for a while, I suppose, as Hollande is not too likely to get back (though not much opposition). Posted by: Laguerre | Feb 8 2016 15:55 utc | 95 hahahahaha
From ATCC Product Page, Zika Virus (ATCC® VR-84™): ATCC Press Release:
nothin to see here, volks, move along, move along
but remember folks: Storage Conditions -70°C or colder – just in case anyone is thinking of putting an order in . . . Posted by: Another hoax | Feb 8 2016 16:02 utc | 96 >> Youtube vid of Billionaire Bill Gates discussing his plan to reduce the population using vaccines to cause sterilisation Posted by: Another hoax | Feb 8 2016 16:04 utc | 97 PS – you can then send Bill Gates a “Thank YOU” note for the privilege Posted by: Another hoax | Feb 8 2016 16:05 utc | 98 It’s par for the course that Dem establishment blogs like Daily Kos haven’t gone into overdrive outrage mode over this remark by the elderly feminist Gloria Steinem:
I can’t remember the last time I heard someone unintentionally say something so funny. This alone would have killed Clinton’s campaign for good if there were any kind of free press left in the US. Steinem has reportedly apologized (I saw a headline) but Albright stands by her “special place in hell” statement. Stupid is as stupid does. And Clinton has the temerity to say she’s not “establishment” Clinton is outdoing Al Gore in the “making it impossible for Nader/Sander’s voters to vote for her in the general election” department and we’ve months to go. Personal animosity makes voting LOTE difficult. Also missed coverage “former NAACP head endorses Sanders.” (Ben Jealous). Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Feb 8 2016 16:53 utc | 100 |
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