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January 11, 2016
Open Thread 2016-03
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What is going on? NYT wants Merkel to go. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/10/opinion/sunday/germany-on-the-brink.html?_r=0 Posted by: Karl | Jan 11 2016 18:39 utc | 1 Following their “civilized” allies: Saudi jets bomb health facility in northern Yemen Posted by: nmb | Jan 11 2016 18:48 utc | 2 Posted by: Karl | Jan 11, 2016 1:39:39 PM | 1
All sorts of folks are quietly “safely” in oblique fashion pushing a nativist line by attacking Merkel … praying for a bloody crash and burn … if for no other reason than that she and Germany said “Yes We Can” and thus far, warts and all, are making it work, more or less (she makes us look like the cowards we are) There is crowing about her asking for more authority to deport those convicted of crimes (apparently currently successful asylum petitioners are protected from “repatriation” of the country of the past “persecution” and of course, no one else wants them or has any obligation to accept or hold them) … see also, call for more stringent screening is being heralded as another “admission of failure” with the train station attacks “proving” the inadequacy of the current screening methods (all in advance of the findings as to exactly what happened and how/why). Guardian.
Sweden is now responding to charges that there was a coverup of mob sexual assault (primarily groping) at a youth music festival last summer — again by foreigners … Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Jan 11 2016 19:21 utc | 3 Interesting story anyone have more info on this person of interest? Posted by: jo6pac | Jan 11 2016 19:31 utc | 4 Thanks for the link … and the name … I heard a long interview with him on the BBC which seemed obviously tintended to push him as part of the “After Assad” narrative …
Gosh, I think we’ve already seen this movie … He’s the designated ex-pat whose going to save Syria … Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Jan 11 2016 19:43 utc | 5 The capture of “El Chapo” serves the Government of Mexico and serves the DEA; it enables them to show accountability and gain more resources for a war that year after year is unsustainable. But it does not serve to stop the killings, kidnappings, extortion; neither does it serves to curb drug trafficking. Posted by: Maracatu | Jan 11 2016 19:56 utc | 6 David Bowie – Blackstar Posted by: Neretva’43 | Jan 11 2016 20:36 utc | 7 Excellent news!!! Posted by: Mina | Jan 11 2016 20:53 utc | 8 For all of those who keep on arguing about the benefits of one US candidate over the other, they could save their energy for more constructive efforts.
Posted by: Lone Wolf | Jan 11 2016 20:56 utc | 9 What is the mechanism that forces American presidents to go along with what the deep state decides? Posted by: lysias | Jan 11 2016 21:05 utc | 10 @4 joe6pac.. that guy has no biz wearing a kilt.. Posted by: james | Jan 11 2016 21:10 utc | 11 What is the mechanism that forces American presidents to go along with what the deep state decides? Posted by: john | Jan 11 2016 21:31 utc | 12 Bhadrakumar piece is more wrong than right. Posted by: Harry | Jan 11 2016 21:39 utc | 13 @12, Only a coward would submit to such a threat, instead of regarding it as a challenge to be defied. If the worst came to the worst, one would at least have died heroically. And such a president, if he did die, could have taken steps before he died to make sure the public would learn how and why he died. So it would not be a death without purpose. Posted by: lysias | Jan 11 2016 21:41 utc | 14 @10 Blackmail? Posted by: Lozion | Jan 11 2016 21:58 utc | 15 @ 15, Surely the answer to such a threat would be to threaten to make it public if it were repeated. Posted by: lysias | Jan 11 2016 22:03 utc | 16 @lysias@10 Posted by: Lone Wolf | Jan 11 2016 22:22 utc | 17 What is the mechanism that forces American presidents to go along with what the deep state decides? Posted by: Bluemot5 | Jan 11 2016 22:23 utc | 18 Merkel is getting taken out by Deep State, with this “rapefugee” BS. This is about her wavering on Syria. Posted by: L Bean | Jan 11 2016 22:29 utc | 19 @19 Maybe only two rapes but a lot of groping. Unless all those women were lying. I’m not sure why you want to defend that kind of behaviour. Posted by: dh | Jan 11 2016 22:36 utc | 20 @4/5/11 The latter (11) spot on, the wanker need a dirk in the ribs for that. 4th para is a dads army TA unit, nothing more. Not elite or for that matter SF. Posted by: Kevin | Jan 11 2016 22:38 utc | 21 @15 This is excuse making for falling for Obama who openly admired Reagan, claimed the right to bomb anything anywhere without working with local governments, surrounded himself with pigs, and even denounced Moveon for their ad about Petraeus. Posted by: NotTimothyGeithner | Jan 11 2016 22:45 utc | 23 @22 My apologies. I thought you were suggesting that the events in Cologne were some kind of hoax perpetrated by the MSM to make young Arab refugees look bad. Posted by: dh | Jan 11 2016 22:46 utc | 24 For everyone on deep state there is this. Posted by: jo6pac | Jan 11 2016 23:22 utc | 25 David Bowie – Moon of Alabama 😉 Posted by: Klaus | Jan 11 2016 23:28 utc | 27 @10 ‘What is the mechanism that forces American presidents to go along with what the deep state decides?’ Posted by: jfl | Jan 12 2016 0:00 utc | 28 @24 “an across the board push by the relict aryan purists in Germany to fire up the Grand Old Party line.” Posted by: dh | Jan 12 2016 0:07 utc | 29 @25 ‘It could just be ordinary German folk getting pissed off.’ Posted by: jfl | Jan 12 2016 0:22 utc | 30 I doubt if anyone in Germany will admit to being an ‘aryan purist’ these days. Perhaps ‘war guilt’ was an afterthought. But it does seem to motivate Merkel to some extent. Posted by: dh | Jan 12 2016 0:34 utc | 31 Debunking Madaya’s lies and deceit by the MSM/pro-takfiris internet media/CIA fronts “human rights” organizations. Other battlefronts in Syria. Posted by: Lone Wolf | Jan 12 2016 0:39 utc | 32 The system is totally corrupt. If you make it to Congress, you’ve got favors to pay back. If you don’t work for the corporate interests (already aligned with deep state) you won’t get the money to run a second term. Some other craven asshole will take your job whether you want it (by demonstrating total acquiescence) or not (by trying to be Mr.Smith in Washington). Posted by: fast freddy | Jan 12 2016 0:46 utc | 33 Fuck “Bundy” We Don’t Need No “Bundy” Posted by: blues | Jan 12 2016 0:54 utc | 34 Posted by: Lone Wolf | Jan 11, 2016 7:39:18 PM | 32 Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Jan 12 2016 0:56 utc | 35 Blues @34 Posted by: juliania | Jan 12 2016 1:33 utc | 36 Lone Wolf @ 9 Posted by: juliania | Jan 12 2016 1:50 utc | 37 Posted by: juliania | Jan 11, 2016 8:33:53 PM | 36 Posted by: Jack Smith | Jan 12 2016 2:09 utc | 38 @ 31 Posted by: Lochearn | Jan 12 2016 2:38 utc | 39 Ground Control to Major Tom (Ten, Nine, Eight, Seven, Six) Posted by: Cynthia | Jan 12 2016 2:49 utc | 40 An excellent site with a deep look at the deep state; Posted by: V. Arnold | Jan 12 2016 2:57 utc | 41 Lone Wolf @ 9 & 17: Yep, that about covers it. Thanks. Posted by: ben | Jan 12 2016 3:04 utc | 42 Jimmy Carter seems like a real nice fellow. It should be remembered, however, that Brzezinski was Carter’s National Security Adviser. Now that was probably the deep state hanging that albatross around ol’ Peanut Boy’s neck (as a minder, perhaps). In any case, Carter didn’t do anything to stop that son of a bitch from his evil doings in Afghanistan. Posted by: fast freddy | Jan 12 2016 3:05 utc | 43 More fraud about Syria Posted by: GoraDiva | Jan 12 2016 3:23 utc | 44 Joanne Leon, Posted by: Penelope | Jan 12 2016 3:27 utc | 45 Apr 8, 2012 NOTE: There is no refuges at this date. Posted by: Neretva’43 | Jan 12 2016 3:36 utc | 46 Historic Militia Moment! Heavily Armed Idaho 3 Percenters Roll Up On FBI Compound Burns Oregon Posted by: Neretva’43 | Jan 12 2016 3:49 utc | 47 Jane Mayers new book says Koch Brothers father built a major oil refinery for Hilter … It looks to be another corker …
NYT: Father of Koch Brothers Helped Build Nazi Oil Refinery, Book Says.
So many stories — they definitely are trying to build an audience … The big news is in physics Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Jan 12 2016 3:54 utc | 48 Neretva’43 @7, Posted by: Cynthia | Jan 12 2016 3:56 utc | 49 “WWII guilt…” Posted by: Neretva’43 | Jan 12 2016 3:57 utc | 50 Posted by: Neretva’43 | Jan 11, 2016 3:36:55 PM | 7 & klaus at #27 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 12 2016 4:01 utc | 51 @ Cynthia | Jan 11, 2016 10:56:23 PM | 50 Posted by: Neretva’43 | Jan 12 2016 4:06 utc | 52 One of the results of the Western cultural, among other things, imperialism is Orientalism. Posted by: Neretva’43 | Jan 12 2016 4:35 utc | 53 @Lochearn no. 39 Posted by: sleepy | Jan 12 2016 4:38 utc | 54 The Radical New Face of the Jewish Settler Movement
Its really not at all mysterious why the Saudis and Israelis get on so well … Posted by: jfl | Jan 12 2016 6:02 utc | 55 @ Neretva’43 at 53 Posted by: Jen | Jan 12 2016 6:19 utc | 56 Final Madayan puzzle piece of the day:
Madaya last received aid, iirc, in July. Foah and Kefraya are miles away in the Northeast and are probably next for humanitarian rescue operation … see map.
Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Jan 12 2016 6:46 utc | 57 @39, “Much like Stalin consigned to the Gulag Russian soldiers returning from WWII in Germany” How do you know this? Posted by: ruralito | Jan 12 2016 6:46 utc | 58 Interesting piece of war/foreign exchange porn … Posted by: jfl | Jan 12 2016 7:01 utc | 59 Here is a link I find interesting because it is China making pronouncements about monetary policy and not the US Fed. The finance policy war is out in the open now. Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 12 2016 7:31 utc | 60 39 Posted by: Chipnik | Jan 12 2016 7:59 utc | 61 @10 “What is the mechanism that forces American presidents to go along with what the deep state decides?” Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jan 12 2016 8:13 utc | 62 Great story chipnik … you should continue in that vein more often.
The author pours it on thick with zero references but, overall … Posted by: jfl | Jan 12 2016 8:30 utc | 63 When b asked why The German government allowed Syrian refugees to cross into Europe a couple of months ago, everyone mentioned wage reduction pressure, fake PR benefit for helping refugees, empting out of the Syrian population, etc, which quickly turned into a miss-treatment and abuse of refugees. Posted by: tom | Jan 12 2016 8:41 utc | 64 Sorry, missed the links … O tempora, o mores … mutatis mutandis. Posted by: jfl | Jan 12 2016 8:50 utc | 65 14 Posted by: Chipnik | Jan 12 2016 8:51 utc | 66 14 Posted by: Chipnik | Jan 12 2016 9:15 utc | 68 Posted by: dh | Jan 11, 2016 7:34:51 PM | 31 Posted by: somebody | Jan 12 2016 9:37 utc | 69 add to 70 Posted by: somebody | Jan 12 2016 9:40 utc | 70 The Internet Dimensional Intelligence of Things (IDIoT)- Posted by: Chipnik | Jan 12 2016 11:45 utc | 71 Muslims, Go Home Posted by: john | Jan 12 2016 12:09 utc | 72 Courtesy of Naked Capitalism, from Unbalanced Evolution. The Troika has a new batter in the on-deck circle, in case Tsipras fails to deliver.
I’m not sure how realistic the Euro-wide “united front” might be. Tsipras losing his majority as Syriza dissidents get fed up is far more likely. Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 12 2016 13:11 utc | 73 oops, here’s the link to Unbalanced Evolution Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 12 2016 13:12 utc | 74 Is Turkey finally faced with betrayed old friends? Posted by: Virgile | Jan 12 2016 13:31 utc | 75 ^
Who said CNN has no sense of humor? Turkey is one of the biggest supporters of those groups, including ISIS. Only Saudis can claim to be bigger supporter, and they as well play this game “we are against the terrorists, we swear!”:) Posted by: Harry | Jan 12 2016 13:53 utc | 76 Once again, to kill all speculation on Russia’s stand next to Syria’s Assad, Putin dispels all rumors once and for all.
Posted by: Lone Wolf | Jan 12 2016 14:20 utc | 77 What happens if the Dutch vote to reject the EU agreement with Ukraine: https://irrussianality.wordpress.com/2016/01/12/taking-ukraines-carrot/ Posted by: KMF | Jan 12 2016 14:24 utc | 78 https://theintercept.com/2016/01/06/the-deceptive-debate-over-what-causes-terrorism-against-the-we Posted by: metni | Jan 12 2016 14:42 utc | 79 Re: Posted by: metni | Jan 12, 2016 9:42:25 AM | 80 Posted by: Julian | Jan 12 2016 15:05 utc | 80 What is the mechanism that forces American presidents to go along with what the deep state decides? Posted by: Noirette | Jan 12 2016 15:47 utc | 81 metni @80
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 12 2016 16:41 utc | 82 @81 Posted by: metni | Jan 12 2016 18:11 utc | 83 @83 said: Posted by: metni | Jan 12 2016 18:31 utc | 84 10,15;Yes their own corruption makes them captive of the Zionist media,to whom mossad has the goods to give to keep those corrupt in line.Imagine the real damage they could do to shillary,and haven’t?And her Bent dick husband,and the Bush family legacy,which was only fodder on the net. Posted by: dahoit | Jan 12 2016 22:09 utc | 85 22;imagine all the scientific and exploration people at risk now in the Muslim world,and probably beyond,nobody likes US anymore. Posted by: dahoit | Jan 12 2016 22:13 utc | 86 Israel receives fifth German nuclear-capable submarine
The German government covered one third the cost … admitted to covering one third the cost. The German-Israel relationship seems to be inverting. It started out as recompense for NAZI genocide of Jews, but as the Israeli genocide of Palestinians becomes ever more undeniable … just what is it that the Germans are arming and funding? Posted by: jfl | Jan 12 2016 23:59 utc | 87 @88 Posted by: metni | Jan 13 2016 0:08 utc | 88 Bowie;Anything from Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars was awesome.Moonage Daydream and Starman come to mind.Rock and Roll suicide.Five Years.Suffragette City. Posted by: dahoit | Jan 13 2016 0:11 utc | 89 @82 noirette Posted by: jfl | Jan 13 2016 0:14 utc | 90 @Noirette@82 Posted by: Lone Wolf | Jan 13 2016 1:45 utc | 91 *I told you earlier all the talk of America’s economic decline is political hot air. Well, so is all the rhetoric you hear about our enemies getting stronger and America getting weaker. The United States of America is the most powerful nation on Earth. Period. It’s not even close. We spend more on our military than the next eight nations combined. [sic] [1] Our troops are the finest fighting force in the history of the world. No nation dares to attack us or our allies because they know that’s the path to ruin. Surveys show our standing around the world is higher than when I was elected to this office, and when it comes to every important international issue, people of the world do not look to Beijing or Moscow to lead — they call us.* Posted by: denk | Jan 13 2016 2:53 utc | 92 No. 93 would seem to be a fragment from the State of the Union Address. Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 13 2016 5:44 utc | 94 Lozion 94, rm 95 Posted by: denk | Jan 13 2016 6:18 utc | 95 Lil’Kim Go BooBoo Posted by: Chipnik | Jan 13 2016 8:06 utc | 97 83 Posted by: Chipnik | Jan 13 2016 8:21 utc | 98 Denk Posted by: Chipnik | Jan 13 2016 8:48 utc | 99 Looks like they are destroying the evidence of serious organized crime …?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/01/11/breaking-us-destroys-isis-banking-facility-in-mosul/ Posted by: doveman | Jan 13 2016 11:22 utc | 100 |
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