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January 1, 2016
Iran Fends Off Childish New Sanction Threats

Last years agreement over Iran's nuclear program could have cleared the way to better relations between the U.S. and Iran. Better relation could lead to cooperation in solving conflicts in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Yemen.

But the U.S. is not willing to go there. It is trying to keep Iran hostile even with the nuclear issue solved.

Just follow recent headlines:

Dec 9 – US official: Iran tested another ballistic missile in Nov.

The test occurred Nov. 21, according to the official, coming on top of an Oct. 10 test Iran confirmed at the time.

Dec 28 – Iran ships 25,000lb of low-enriched uranium to Russia as part of nuclear deal

“I am pleased to report that we have seen important indications of significant progress towards Iran completing its key nuclear commitments under the deal,” the US secretary of state, John Kerry, said.

Dec 30 – U.S. preparing missile sanctions against Iran

Dec 30 – US says Iran launched 'provocative' rocket test near ships

Iran fulfills the nuclear deal and ships out enriched Uranium. It thereby gives away its meager means to even produce one nuclear weapon. This is immediately followed by a hostile move from the U.S. together with some nonsense propaganda over small fireworks in the Gulf, the Persian Gulf.

Iran immediately reacted to these crazy moves.

Dec 31 – Iran's IRGC denies firing rockets near U.S. warship in Persian Gulf

Dec 31 – Iran Denounces U.S. Sanctions Over Missiles, Saying It Will Build More

Israel, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Pakistan and the U.S. all have ballistic missiles that can hit Iran. Why should Iran not have a capability to deter them with its own ballistic missile force? Given that Iran has no nuclear weapons program there is no sound reason to deny it conventional missile capabilities. China, Russia and the Europeans accept that and will prevent any UN sanctions over the issue.

Only after Iran made it clear that it will not take part in the childish games the Obama administration wanted to play did the administration retract.

Jan 1 – White House Said To Delay Sanctions On Iran After Tehran Retaliates

Duh! Why make the threat in the first place when it was clear from the onset that it would be a bad move?

Tally this up as other own goal the Obama administration inflicted onto itself.

Who came up with the crazy idea of sanctioning Iran over harmless ballistic missile tests? Why do this at a time, just after Iran shipped out its Uranium, that make it look like intended sabotage of the nuclear deal? The deal with Iran is the only major foreign policy success the Obama administration ever had. Why endanger this legacy?

It will be interesting to read and compare the self serving memoirs of Obama administration officials when their time in office is over. My perception is that Obama is completely disinterested in policies. That Susan Rice, his National Security Adviser, has the retarded mindset of a junior highschool brat. That the neolibcons at the State Department run circles around a hapless John Kerry. And that the Pentagon, CentCom and the CIA are all running the own tunnel vision policies without any regard of a bigger national strategy.

Unfortunately there is little hop that the next administration will be any better.

Comments

# 97 The futile -and naive debate
What an arrogant nihilist.

Posted by: From The Hague | Jan 2 2016 17:20 utc | 101

Actually, I wonder whether the execution of al-Nimr wasn’t intended to provoke a Shi’a revolt, so that the Saudis could go in and execute a full-scale massacre, reducing the numbers of Shi’a by a few hundred thousand, and ending their threat to the oil-fields. Dangerous move though. Just for recall, if you’ve forgotten, all the Saudi oil-fields are under land occupied by the Shi’a. The princes are quite paranoid about this point; it is the major motor of Saudi foreign policy.

Posted by: Laguerre | Jan 2 2016 17:46 utc | 102

re 101. Or ‘a’ major motor.

Posted by: Laguerre | Jan 2 2016 17:52 utc | 103

@laguerre
Watch the escalation of the rocket attacks from Yemen into Saudi Arabia. By murdering a peaceful dissenter, Saudi Arabia has open the gate to violence. It will pay very dearly for that crime. Iran has a long memory
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/02/saudi-mass-execution-iran-syria-yemen-impact-sheikh-nimr

Posted by: Virgile | Jan 2 2016 17:55 utc | 104

Is the murder of Al Nimr Saudi Arabia’s response to the killing of Zahran Alloush?

Posted by: Virgile | Jan 2 2016 18:00 utc | 105

@84 Agree that The Interpreter is a truly awful rag. So many of the rumors about Russia invading Ukraine through the Donbass seemed to mushroom from the bowels of its editorials, but reported as breaking news. Repeatedly.

Posted by: yellowsnapdragon | Jan 2 2016 18:04 utc | 106

From The Hague@100
The worse part of the “presidential” debate here at MoA, is to have non-US posters such as this one, with no knowledge about US politics, giving their pompous, opinionated comments about who should be the “best” president for us, crooked Trump or la bitch Clinton. Now, that’s what I call true arrogance, foolish nincompoop.

Posted by: Lone Wolf | Jan 2 2016 18:04 utc | 107

@71 tom.. well, maybe my comment was a bit over the top, but posting long commentary with countless links is something that has to be dear to a person to want to read.. on the other hand, if you want to write a book – those who like reading books might enjoy what you have to say.. the 9-11 issue isn’t dear to my heart.. at most i will say it raised a lot more questions then it answered while casting suspicion in a number of different directions.. i generally never go along with any official line offered by gov’ts, but that’s me…

Posted by: james | Jan 2 2016 18:06 utc | 108

@ 96 You think firemen are going to play along with an agenda and “pretend” a building had large fires in it? What you are saying makes no sense. No one died in WTC7. WTC7 was just a building near the targeted towers. Focusing on it is a misdirection from the motive for the attack.
https://youtu.be/44wK72Snm6Y
You are falling for the misdirection perpetrated by people like Dan Rather: https://goo.gl/LyrftX
And you miss the point, see this video playlist too: “WTC7 Collapse Was Firemen’s Concern On 9/11” https://goo.gl/3ZBjp0 (the point being that firemen were saying these things that afternoon and not after the fact!)

Posted by: Tom Murphy | Jan 2 2016 18:36 utc | 109

@103 Guardian: “Countries such as Britain and the US, closely allied to Riyadh, are already embarrassed by Saudi human rights abuses.”
As if. UK and US consistently exploit head chopping and other atrocities for the explicit purpose of escalating whatever military action they desire at the time. If Nimr was executed for the New Year holiday, video of his death will come at a strategically important moment for the US. Never mind any revenge King Salman gets for Alloush. I can’t help thinking that Salman is being played by US to weaken the Kingdom while maintaining the alliance.
Meanwhile, Iran isn’t playing the part US assigned it to play and will no doubt have a surprising, thoughtful, and strategic response. Double that if Putid has advised Iran.

Posted by: yellowsnapdragon | Jan 2 2016 18:38 utc | 110

Tom Murphy at 62 —
I might have edited and re-formatted it a bit, but overall a fine piece of work. Some A HREF= tags, like LW at 97 has going on, would be a great help.
Why should anybody have any sort of sustained discussed, when a few epithets and sound bites will do?
“Wall of Text” — weren’t they an an 80’s band?

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 2 2016 18:39 utc | 111

What happened dis what happened. Describing what happened as the “official line” or “the official story” is just a manipulative what to characterize it. It is a ploy to get people to think they are rebelling against officials. How much clearer does the case of WTC7 have to be with all the info I gave about all those firemen saying what they did about WTC7? I have yet to hear someone give ,e a logical explanation why “secret agents” would think it necessary to “trick” the public into thinking a nearby building collapsed due to fires about 7 hours after the collapse! What the hell purpose would THAT serve? Seriously, what is the significance of WTC SEVEN and what is achieved in “tricking” the public into thinking it collapsed late in the afternoon due to fires? see all the videos in this playlist: “WTC7 Collapse Was Firemen’s Concern On 9/11″https://goo.gl/3ZBjp0

Posted by: Tom Murphy | Jan 2 2016 18:43 utc | 112

@111 https://goo.gl/3ZBjp0

Posted by: Tom Murphy | Jan 2 2016 18:45 utc | 113

And where the hell is Bandar Bush? After getting sacked by Salman, he has disappeared back into the viper pit that is the House of Saud.

Posted by: yellowsnapdragon | Jan 2 2016 18:48 utc | 114

Lone Wolf @ 107
The world has everything to say about how the US operates outside her borders.
Someone has to stop the CIA, the DoD, the bombing, the torturing, the killing (direct or via proxies).
Obomba didn’t and Hitlary won’t.
You get one more chance in 2016.
The Russians came to Paris (Napoleon) and Berlin (Hitler).
If it must, they will come to Washington D.C.(Hitlary) and the rest of the US.

Posted by: From The Hague | Jan 2 2016 19:06 utc | 115

And now al Arabiya reporting that Iranian ambassador summoned for scolding over Iran’s response to Nimr. Riyadh says Iran responsible for protecting Saudi embassy.

Posted by: yellowsnapdragon | Jan 2 2016 19:06 utc | 116

Posted by: Laguerre | Jan 2, 2016 12:46:58 PM | 102]]
Saudis and Turks, are getting worried,thinking that US is becoming less engaged, or American mode is becoming, to support a disengagement, of taking a side. All along the Saudi’ effort since the Iranian revolution (due to their own insecurity)to change this dispute/war from a proxy war, between Iran and KSA/Gulfies, to change to a general street level war, between the shih and Sunni has failed, with all bombing and killing of shih in various ME states including Pakistan and Afghanistan this has not yet become an openly Shia vs Sunni in a street level. This is all because Iran and Shih grand clergies are not taking the bate otherwise was easy for them to do the same and kill the innocent Sunnis, and move the war to an open sectorial war. Today’ execution of highest Shia clergy in KSA, is a continuation on the same effort to intimidate the Shia, after Erdogan’ trip to KAS, hoping to widen the war and forcing US wider engagement. IMO it will fail again and will open KSA to a further internal disability, with her own largest minority, sort what turkey has with Kurds.

Posted by: kooshy | Jan 2 2016 19:09 utc | 117

@ Tom Murphy
You place too much faith in the media, US government and their employees, including some fireman. You quote them as if they are a paragon of truth, while in reality you dont know what happened, you just blindly trust them. Why? Do you know them personally? Have you been in this building and saw who/what started the fires and how it went? Plenty of cases in history when workers or even experts of ANY field can be employed in shady things, propaganda or coverups.
That said, I dont know for sure what happened with WTC7, however it would seem WTC7 was build like some Indian slums to collapse so fast due to fires. Much worse fire cases I have seen didnt cause such collapse even after MUCH longer periods of more extensive fires.
Speaking of 9/11, regardless if you believe it was done by Al Qaeda, or by US itself, in either case US government was responsible. US created Al Qaeda, funded, trained and armed them, if you forgot. Or it was simply a new implementation of Operation Northwood. I’m not splitting hairs about specifics, fact remains US was responsible, directly or indirectly.

Posted by: Harry | Jan 2 2016 19:12 utc | 118

Most of the time there is an effort to fight the fires. you overlook that they were not fighting the fires in WTC7 AND that several floors had sprinklers not working because the Twin Towers had collapsed and severed water lines.
You are making several assumptions about me and about WTC7. See this video: https://youtu.be/UHFhACaej4Q

Posted by: Tom Murphy | Jan 2 2016 19:18 utc | 119

To all those arguing about the best possible future POTUS… The problem here is systemic. By voting, you are endorsing a thoroughly corrupt system. The only power they have is given to them by us, and can be taken away by noncompliance and abstinence from participation in that whole silly “democracy” debacle.
Dont vote….and certainly don’t get sucked into arguments over future puppet muppets…

Posted by: Dan | Jan 2 2016 19:25 utc | 120

@ LoneWolf 107
Normally I Luke what you have to say. Alit of it concerns various political figures globally. This is not an American blog, and everyone has a point of view.

Posted by: Dan | Jan 2 2016 19:40 utc | 121

kooshy: “IMO it will fail again and will open KSA to a further internal disability”
Which makes one wonder who is ultimately guiding policy in KSA. The Saudi/Iran rivalry is about access to resources and transport routes to market gas and oil. The Sunni/Shia divide is exploited to recruit armies and inflame passions for the service of resource owning elites. If it is true, as Prof. Meirsheimer of ACEWA believes, that as China and Asia will replace Europe as the most regionally important area for the US, how might that shift US strategy for controlling actors in the ME, where the oil and gas fields are? Is the fight for control of Syria the last effort to transport resources to the EU before all sales are directed to China? KSA is the loser in that scenario and Iran is the winner. Everybody loves a winner.

Posted by: yellowsnapdragon | Jan 2 2016 19:47 utc | 122

re Kooshi 117

Today’ execution of highest Shia clergy in KSA, is a continuation on the same effort to intimidate the Shia, after Erdogan’ trip to KAS, hoping to widen the war and forcing US wider engagement.

You haven’t understood that Saudi hatred of the Shi’a is not a generic hatred, although that also exists, but rather a very specific one. *All* the Saudi oil-fields are inhabited by the Shi’a minority. If they revolt, the Saudi princes will lose their revenues entirely. The Saudi princes are frightened. Executing al-Nimr was a major move. Was the intention to frighten the Shi’a into obedience, or to provoke a revolt, which would permit the Saudis to genocide the Shi’a, and reduce them to manageable numbers? A very dicey decision which way things will go.

Posted by: Laguerre | Jan 2 2016 20:10 utc | 123

“You haven’t understood that Saudi hatred of the Shi’a is not a generic hatred,
Posted by: Laguerre | Jan 2, 2016 3:10:12 PM | 123
Nor did I say it is, you didn’t read or fully understood my comment, I “emphasized “ wrote:
“ All along the Saudi’ effort since the Iranian revolution (due to their own insecurity)to change this dispute/war from a proxy war, between Iran and KSA/Gulfies, to change to a general street level war, between the shih and Sunni has failed”
Everyone knows Saudis are not doing this for religion, but they want to widen it to a sectorial war. What has prevented this to spread to streets is the Shia clergy in Najaf, Qom, cleverly, they are holding off their constituencies from a retaliation of kind. Blaming it on extremist takfirist Sunnis, like if they are crazy/insane.

Posted by: kooshy | Jan 2 2016 20:30 utc | 124

@Dan@121
Normally I Luke what you have to say. Alit of it concerns various political figures globally. This is not an American blog, and everyone has a point of view.
You’re absolutely right, this is not an American blog, and everyone is entitled to their opinion. That’s all I did when I expressed my opinion about the futility of debating if Sanders is better than Trump, or la Clinton is better than both, since I strongly believe that no matter who is elected, US geopolitical strategy will be guided by those who control the establishment, the Deep State.
I was then targeted ad-hominem for saying that, and your comments are based on my response to the attack. Sorry if I gave the impression people who are not Americans cannot opine about any subject under heaven pertaining the US, of course they do, anyone, on anything. My criticism has to do with their vain attempts to express opinions on issues that are over their heads.
US politics is a complex matter, elections one of the tools the political system uses to perpetuate itself in power, and part of their manipulation consists in keeping the masses focused on personalities and their “expertise,” or lack thereof, to run the country. In reality, not one of the figureheads call “presidents” do that, it is done for them, as Obama has confirmed it once and again.
Focusing on personalities, however, keeps the masses busy debating ad nauseam, which is exactly what the system wants them to do, see the trees, not the woods, while the puppeteers keep on laughing all the way to the bank. That is, of course, my humble opinion. Everyone else is entitled to theirs.

Posted by: Lone Wolf | Jan 2 2016 21:30 utc | 125

@ rufus magister | Jan 2, 2016 1:39:43 PM | 111

“Wall of Text” — weren’t they an an 80’s band?

You may be thinking of ZZTop and their wall of sound. My ears are still ringing from those concerts.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Jan 2 2016 21:38 utc | 126

(due to their own insecurity)

I wouldn’t disagree with you, but I’m inversing the importance. The general issue of Saudi versus Shi’a is only signficant in relation to Saudi fears over the Eastern Province. It’s a central issue. Go where they want, and Saudi revenues will be cut.

Posted by: Laguerre | Jan 2 2016 21:46 utc | 127

@96 LW
Why do you use url shorteners on all your links?
Nationalists March in Kiev to Mark Birthday of Fascist Collaborator
Nationalists March in Kiev to Mark Birthday of Fascist Collaborator at sputniknews.com
There aren’t enough men-in-the-middle in this world? I don’t/won’t follow them. If you use the original title I can usually use that to get at the original and read it myself … if I’m interstested enough to take that extra step that you impose on me. Why on earth do you inflict the extra effort on me and on yourself?
Cui bono? To none of ours. Makes one wonder, certainly. The people making the between the link itelf, yourself, and the people who follow your links are deviving enough financial benefit to provide the ‘free’ – as in the customer is the product – service. Who’s paying for that information? Why are you providing it for free? Why are you providing the identities of those who unthinkingly follow your links to their commidifiers? What is the benefit to you or to any other human? Why are you doing this? I ask because you seem to know exactly what you’re doing.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 2 2016 22:06 utc | 128

125 @Lonewolf
With regards to the “puppet masters laughing all the way to the bank”, insofar as my research has led me to believe, the puppet masters are already at the bank.

Posted by: TrueNorth | Jan 3 2016 0:41 utc | 129

@jfl@128
@96 LW
Why do you use url shorteners on all your links?

Mostly with Sputnik links, it was my experience MoA server blocked them, maybe not anymore? Have to try without shorten URL.

Posted by: Lone Wolf | Jan 3 2016 1:19 utc | 130

@98 Lone Wolf
Thanks for the article. We should expect more movement in Europe like this. With the faulty-bank driven EU-Austerity project with Frau Merkel as spokesperson driving the weaker EU nations into debt saturation, what can we expect…? Some countries are just seeing the writing on the wall, and turn their nose up at their EU/Troika overlords. The EU has itself to blame. We look forward to the rise of the right as the nationalists demand control of their borders.
Nuland: f**k the EU.
And that is exactly what’s happening. In one moment, Greece is forced to accept the erosion of democracy and accept the debt that CAN NEVER be repaid so that Goldman-Sachs and co. dont lose their bet that Greece won’t default…and in the very next breath, the IMF are busy re-writing their ‘not another argentina’ rulebook so that they can write off the debt they owe – €3B to who…? Russia.
Its high crime in broad daylight – but, I don’t mind how long EU mismanagement goes on for…i dont mind how long EU states play the vassal to the USA…because, if you look around, it is clearly not working…and the longer the current status quo is held, the bigger the blowback when euro states grow the balls enough to bite back and say ‘enough F**k off’… The bigger the f**k-up, the bigger the reaction, the bigger the swing away from what we know as the status quo causing lasting foreign policy change – and with any luck nato will be dismantled in favour of UN decree.
The US handle diplomacy with the subtlety of a rusty chainsaws…they are the true extremists of this age…back door barry n co… can’t whack old dogs with big sticks forever, and ppl are waking up to that…

Posted by: MadMax2 | Jan 3 2016 1:20 utc | 131

*so that Ukraine can write off

Posted by: MadMax2 | Jan 3 2016 1:23 utc | 132

@TrueNorth@129
125 @Lonewolf
With regards to the “puppet masters laughing all the way to the bank”, insofar as my research has led me to believe, the puppet masters are already at the bank.

Yes, they own the banks, the banksters.

Posted by: Lone Wolf | Jan 3 2016 1:24 utc | 133

@jfl@128
There aren’t enough men-in-the-middle in this world? I don’t/won’t follow them. If you use the original title I can usually use that to get at the original and read it myself … if I’m interstested enough to take that extra step that you impose on me. Why on earth do you inflict the extra effort on me and on yourself?
Cui bono? To none of ours. Makes one wonder, certainly. The people making the between the link itelf, yourself, and the people who follow your links are deviving enough financial benefit to provide the ‘free’ – as in the customer is the product – service. Who’s paying for that information? Why are you providing it for free? Why are you providing the identities of those who unthinkingly follow your links to their commidifiers? What is the benefit to you or to any other human? Why are you doing this? I ask because you seem to know exactly what you’re doing.

jfl, I didn’t read the rest of your post when I answered it above, I went back and realized there was more to it besides your question. I don’t use shorten URLs for any of the twisted purposes you’re insinuating, as I said, I used them only with Sputnik links. Someone else had questioned my use of shorten URLs and I gave him the same explanation. I am not the only one using shorten URLs here, so I don’t understand your sudden suspicions.
You’re welcome not to touch any of my links, if your distrust is so paranoid. End of story.

Posted by: Lone Wolf | Jan 3 2016 1:44 utc | 134