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November 19, 2015
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“German Interior Minister Says Suicide Bomber’s Syrian Passport “May Have Been Planted”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-18/german-interior-minister-says-suicide-bombers-syrian-passport-may-have-been-planted
I love when a politician are playing hide and seek, or better playing to be naïve. It is consistent with type of the state gangsterism, with the state propaganda what’s following up such events, what we have seen in the Western metropoles. “They” are not what concerns me but those who are believing in choreography presented on their TV sets. I guess constituency is trying to maximize ROI, by watching, on their newly acquired HDTV sets.
Posted by: Neretva’43 | Nov 19 2015 14:07 utc | 1
Media are calling for boots on the ground, pretending that Raqqa bombing is useless.
Al Jazeera 2 days ago: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/11/syrians-insane-nights-french-bombing-151117052945111.html
and now the BBC: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34855514
Posted by: danx | Nov 19 2015 14:13 utc | 2
France discovered Military Keynesianism.
France swats aside EU budget rules in rearmament blitz
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11999544/France-swats-aside-EU-budget-rules-in-rearmament-blitz.html
So, in effect after all, France’s ruling establishment kill two (of three) birds with one shoot. One is they bring control over its border back to Paris thus preventing inflow and admittance, or transfer to UK, of refuges. And they circumvent EU/Brussels rules. Lastly, they introduce Military Keynesianism in order to revive dismal state of economy.
France is in serious stagnation, if we measure by the Growth metric and IMF parameters. Shock Doctrine was needed to revive France from its comatose state of economy.
Posted by: Neretva’43 | Nov 19 2015 14:24 utc | 3
When Finland lost its Cold War role thus she fell out as a darling of the US establishment, CIA’s capital was withdrawn from Nokia, when Microsoft acquired Nokia that move meant slow dead of former telecoms giant. Competitors must be destroyed a same faith is waiting BlackBerry. When Finland has became sufficiently neoliberal and the reactionary that was the end for Finland. Imposing sanctions of Russia just exacerbated the Finland problems. Political landscape is familiar and that can be seen across the world. The countries size, assuming they give up own sovereignty, of Greece and Finland have nothing to do in Big Boys club, they are periphery and serve only as a market of the Big Boys.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/12001895/Finlands-depression-is-the-final-indictment-of-Europes-monetary-union.html
Posted by: Neretva’43 | Nov 19 2015 14:38 utc | 4
@nmb # 5
Thanks nmb.
……..destroyed entire nations (Iraq, Libya, Syria) in order to throw the “brutal dictators”, when at the same time they tolerate the most brutal regime, that of Saudi Arabia (Ukraine and Israel)…..
Posted by: Jack Smith | Nov 19 2015 15:32 utc | 6
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/11/19/shooting-to-kill-operation-get-corbyn/
Once I discussed an article (was it Daily Telegraph) that in its title offered an analysis what is a more grave danger to the United Kingdom: ISIS or Russia? And the conclusion was, Jeremy Corbyn. Corbyn constitutes current grave danger to the Kingdom, primarily by abandoning the key concept of loyal opposition, which includes everything we hold holy and dear, like Tridents (do not asks, blue and red bloodied Britons love their Tridents for some reasons, but Corbyn and “Celtic nationalists” do not), impromptu policies of shoot to kill terrorists (after a bombing in UK, it was a smashing success, police quickly gunned down a Brazilian who fit all aspects of terrorist profile: in his 30-ties, darkish skin, leather jacket, except that he was a genuine Brazilian, in inconsequential detail), bombing abroad and so on.
Which of the threats to the Kingdom will be eliminated within three years: Russia, ISIS or Corbyn? Or will it become a republic?
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 19 2015 15:36 utc | 7
Media are calling for boots on the ground, pretending that Raqqa bombing is useless.
These reports are coming from a partisan source which wants arms for the FSA, not Western boots on the ground. The latter would be catastrophic for their credibility.
Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 19 2015 15:57 utc | 8
From TRNN, and Glen Ford on France’s colonial past:
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=15109
Posted by: ben | Nov 19 2015 16:06 utc | 9
@7 Putin, Assad and Corbyn will all be exiled to St. Helena and denied any form of media communication.
Posted by: dh | Nov 19 2015 16:28 utc | 10
For various reasons Jews very often like to pretend to be Moslem
‘Your Muslim husband is a Jew’ The Australian
In 1964, the men’s wives were flown to Paris to be met by a Mossad officer who told them that their husbands were secretly Jews.
The Mossad station chief told the women they could either join their husbands in a Jewish community, or they could be resettled in an Arab country of their choice.
The women chose to remain with their husbands and so they were converted to Judaism.
David Headley.
‘Moslem’ terrorist David Headley visited various Jewish sites in India.He claimed to be Jewish when he reportedly stayed at the Chabad centre in Mumbai in July 2008.
The American FBI found a book in his bag in Chicago entitled ‘To Pray as a Jew’.
So was this a case of
OR (equally likely)
- ‘Jewish Mumbai terrorist pretended to be Moslem’
Posted by: Cryptos | Nov 19 2015 16:34 utc | 11
No way will the Zionists permit cooperation of their self made enemies in the region with US,as their success is Israel’s loss of hegemony.These wars are all about divide and conquer.
Jeb is ready to sacrifice more thousands of dead and maimed soldiers for Zion.
Posted by: dahoit | Nov 19 2015 16:35 utc | 12
Hillary just gave her foreign policy speech to the Council on Foreign Affairs, and of course it was covered in totality on CNN.
Over the top hypocrisy regarding our “allies”, the Saudis, Turkey, [Qatar] and Israel. Interesting how she skirted her way around her regime change policies in Ukraine, Libya, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Syria and Lebanon….then very very tactfully said we should discourage “individual” private citizens from Saudi Arabian from funding terrorists….and we should politely ask Turkey to stop bombing the Kurds. Good luck Hillary. She acts like she has already been elected.
Then Austin Carter asking for more money. Really?
Posted by: shadyl | Nov 19 2015 16:47 utc | 13
Lavon Affair.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
Pinhas Lavon
The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers. The bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, “unspecified malcontents” or “local nationalists” with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt’s Suez Canal zone.[2]
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http://www.inminds.com/jews-of-iraq.html
“I write this article for the same reason I wrote my book: to tell the American people, and especially American Jews, that Jews from Islamic lands did not emigrate willingly to Israel.
To force them to leave, Jews killed Jews, and to buy time to confiscate ever more Arab lands, Jews on numerous occasions rejected genuine peace initiatives from their Arab neighbors.
I write about what the first prime minister of Israel called “cruel Zionism.”
I write about it because I was part of it.”
ABOUT THIS ARTICLE:
The Link interviewed Naeim Giladi, a Jew from Iraq, for three hours on March 16, 1998, two days prior to his 69th birthday. For nearly two other delightful hours, we were treated to a multi-course Arabic meal prepared by his wife Rachael, who is also Iraqi.
“It’s our Arab culture,” he said proudly.
In our previous Link, Israeli historian Ilan Pappe looked at the hundreds of thousands of indigenous Palestinians whose lives were uprooted to make room for foreigners who would come to populate confiscated land.
Most were Ashkenazi Jews from Eastern Europe. But over half a million other Jews came from Islamic lands.
Zionist propagandists claim that Israel “rescued” these Jews from their anti-Jewish, Muslim neighbors. One of those “rescued” Jews-Naeim Giladi -knows otherwise.<
In his book, "Ben Gurion's Scandals: How the Haganah & the Mossad Eliminated Jews", Giladi discusses the crimes committed by Zionists in their frenzy to import raw Jewish labor.
Newly-vacatedEthnically-Cleansed farmlands had to be plowed to provide food for the immigrants and the military ranks had to be filled with conscripts, willing or unwilling, to defend the nwely-stolen lands.
Mr. Giladi couldn’t get his book published in Israel, and even in the U.S. he discovered he could do so only if he used his own money.
The Giladis, now U.S. citizens, live in New York City. By choice, they no longer hold Israeli citizenship. “I am Iraqi,” he told us, “born in Iraq, my culture still Iraqi Arabic, my religion Jewish, my citizenship American.”
Posted by: Cryptos | Nov 19 2015 16:50 utc | 14
https://www.google.ru/search?q=zionist+bombing+campaign+in+iraq
Posted by: Cryptos | Nov 19 2015 16:56 utc | 15
@6 – “”……..destroyed entire nations (Iraq, Libya, Syria) in order to throw the “brutal dictators” “”
American foreign policy is oddly personalized and grudge-filled. No matter how many times we “cut off the head of the snake” of whichever cause only to find the cause alive-and-well, even resurgent … our “strategists” cannot resist the “baseball card” approach to fighting terrorism … what nasty boys and girls they must have been … and none too bright.
There’s been little to no follow up of our recent targeted assassination in Libya, although the authorization for that is a bit unclear as was telegraphed early on by labeling this alleged ISIS leader as Al-Qa’eda as if these were the same organizations. whatever.
If anyone finds something to suggest Al-Qa’eda has broken radio silence — please share. Ditto news of AQAP. I’m very surprised there has not been more speculation that they have indeed joined forces and/or that individual Al-Qa’eda converts to ISIS have not provided the sort of skills (technical and logistical and educational/language) that ISIS had previously lacked. Al-Qa’eda mothership was composed of well-educated Saudis, ISIS not.so.much.
Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Nov 19 2015 17:02 utc | 16
David Ben-Gurion, Israel’s First Prime Minister was also the author of Cruel Zionism and was responsible for false-flag bombs set off by Zionazi agents in the M.E.
This lead to his resignation in 1954
This is the sort of “Kinder gentler zionist Left” that Zio-Nazi mouthpieces likes to pretend existed prior to the timely re-entry of the Extreme Rightwing Jabotinskities (e,g. Menachim Begin) back into ZioNazi Political scene, just before the ZioNazis engineered the war of 1967.
Prior to their re-entry the ZioNazis liked to publicly pretend that openly Nazi-like Begin was persona-non-grata. The truth was very different however.
In truth no such Kinder gentler zionist Left” EVER existed, despite the lies told about it by the likes of the Zionists Noam Chomsky or Bernie Sanders
Left-Wing ZioNazism was every bit as cruel and Nazi-like toward Palestinian Arabs and Christians as the Right Wing Zionism the lying Zionist Mouthpieces like to blame the excesses of Jewish Racism (Zionism) upon.
Left Wing ZioNazi Gov’ts instigated most of the racist and bigoted policies enacted by the ZioNazi Land thieves in Palestine.
The dishonest and disgusting pretence of the ZioNazi mouthpieces, that the period between 1948 and 1967 was somehow better for the victims of Jewish Racism is no more than the usual bag of lies for which such ZioNazis have become notorious
Posted by: Cryptos | Nov 19 2015 17:15 utc | 17
@10 dh.. not a bad answer!
@12 dahoit.. that is basically how i see it too. there will be no cooperation with russia when the unipolar one has an agenda to take down russia..
@13 shadyl.. with h clinton in the drivers seat, you pretty well know how things will go.. “our “allies”, the Saudis, Turkey, [Qatar] and Israel.”
British Cabinet Minister: “We’re Going To War” and john helmer from yesterday THE BARBARIANS ARE AT THE GATE OF CIVILIZATION, BUT WHICH EMPIRE IS FALLING?
Posted by: james | Nov 19 2015 17:59 utc | 19
Who is going to deal with KSA sponsored terrorism? The prophetic answer.
Isaiah brilliantly predicted that Iran (biblical Elam) must and will destroy Arabia.
“The burden against Dumah” (Isaiah 21:11)
“The burden against Arabia” (Isaiah 21:13)
“All the glory of Kedar will fail” (Isaiah 21:16)
These “Dumah” and “Kedar” are all in Arabia which is literally mentioned as “Arabia” in verse 13. It can’t get any clearer than this, which is destroyed by Iran “Elam” (Isaiah 21:2) in a complete wipe out.
Posted by: Sun Tzu | Nov 19 2015 18:08 utc | 20
You are about to view one of America’s youngest and most able investigative journalists provide a careful and objective presentation of the conflict in Israel, Gaza and the Occupied Territories.
http://salsa4.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=IuBinueMyvTkDsML3vV%2FAgC2gTw75v1%2F
Posted by: okie farmer | Nov 19 2015 18:09 utc | 21
Cameron encourages private sector to bomb Syria
Snark alert….
Posted by: jawbone | Nov 19 2015 18:12 utc | 22
Al-Qa’eda mothership was composed of well-educated Saudis, ISIS not.so.much.
Posted by: Susan Sunflower | Nov 19, 2015 12:02:36 PM | 16
tsk tsk
Jewish Al Qaeda.
The Phony (Mossad) Al Qaeda Cell in Palestine:
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon … said that al-Qaeda militants were operating in the Gaza Strip and Lebanon. “We know that they are there. We know that they are in Lebanon, working closely with Hezbollah. We know that they are in the region,” he said. [BBC News – 12/5/2002]
Officials from the Palestinian Authority have accused the Israeli spy agency Mossad of setting up a fake al-Qaeda terrorist cell in Gaza. Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat said that Israel had set up the mock cell in order to justify attacks in Palestinian areas. [BBC News – 12/8/2002]
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Adam Pearlman: The Jewish “Muslim Terrorist”
official FBI wanted poster for terrorist Adam Pearlman [Yahiye Gadahn]<
The FBI lists Pearlman/Gadahn's aliases as Abu Suhayb Al-Amriki, Abu Suhayb, Yihya Majadin Adams, Adam Pearlman, and Yayah.
But Adam Pearlmen is his REAL name.
Adam is the grandson of the late Carl K. Pearlman, a prominent Jew in Orange County, and also a member of the board of directors of the Jewish smear-group "Anti-Defamation League"{ADL], which was caught spying on Americans in 1993, much like another Jewish Political pressure/smear group AIPAC has been caught up in spy scandals.
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Yet another Jewish “Muslim Terrorist” surfaces!
Big scary hairy Muslim Yousef al-Khattab, owner operator of scary sounding RevolutionMuslim.com, turns out to be a Jewish guy called
Joseph Cohen
On any given day, log on to RevolutionMuslim.com and a host of startling images appear:
The Statue of Liberty, with an ax blade cutting through her side;
Video mocking the beheading of American journalist Daniel Pearl, entitled “Daniel Pearl I am Happy You’re Dead 🙂 “;
Video of a puppet show lampooning U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq;
The latest speech from Sheikh Abdullah Faisal, an extremist Muslim cleric convicted in the UK and later deported for soliciting the murder of non-Muslims.
Even more surprising is that RevolutionMuslim.com isn’t being maintained in some remote safe house in Pakistan. Instead, Yousef al-Khattab, the Web site creator, runs it from his home in the New York City Borough of Queens.
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Formerly known as Joseph Cohen, al-Khattab is an American-born Jew who pretends to have converted to Islam
Cohen had been born to a Jewish family from Queens in New York City. He later became an Orthodox Jew and moved to Israel, where he studied at an Orthodox rabbinical school which he later described as a “racist cult.” (which it is)
After returning to New York, he pretends to have converted to Islam about 2000
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Jewish ISIS
British Jew Simon Elliot aka ISIS head-honcho Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
http://croah.fr/corbeau-dechaine/simon-elliot-alias-al-baghdadi-de-pere-et-mere-juifs-et-agent-du-mossad/
In August 2014, it was reported that Edward Snowden had claimed Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is a Jewish actor whose real name is Simon Elliot (Elliot Shimon) who, having been recruited by Mossad, was trained in espionage and psychological warfare.
Posted by: Cryptos | Nov 19 2015 18:26 utc | 23
This excellent letter to Assad from US state Senator for Virginia Richard Black proves that all US politicians are not insane. https://www.facebook.com/syria24english/posts/938859799483136:0
Posted by: harry law | Nov 19 2015 18:38 utc | 25
So it is official –
French and Russian military and secret services to coordinate in Syria
Posted by: somebody | Nov 19 2015 18:54 utc | 26
Yet another Jewish man has been caught pretending to be an “Moslem Terrorist”
Australian “Moslem Terrorist” exposed as Jewish boy living in Florida!
Yet another Jewish man has been charged with pretending to be an “Moslem Terrorist” after a FBI joint investigation with the Australian Federal Police based on information provided by Fairfax Media..
Joshua Goldberg, a 20-year old living at his parents’ house in US state of Florida, is accused of posing online as “Australi Witness,” an IS supporter who publicly called for a series of attacks against individuals and events in western countries.
In recent days Australi Witness has claimed online that he is working with other jihadists to plan attacks in Australia and the United States. He distributed pictures of a bomb that he was working on with “2 lbs of explosives inside”.
The “Australi Witness” sockpuppet fooled members of the international intelligence community as well as journalists, with well-known ZioNazi “analyst” Rita Katz of Mossad Front-group SITE Intelligence, saying the “IS supporter” held a “prestige” position in online jihadi circles and was “part of the hard core of a group of individuals who constantly look for targets for other people to attack”.
Which tells us that Ritz Katz and SITE are just as phony as Joshua Goldberg, as if we did not already know that
Posted by: Cryptos | Nov 19 2015 19:05 utc | 27
Cryptos, can you stop filling the entire page with Anti-Semitism please.
Theres a difference between anti Zionism and Anti-Semitism, and not only have you crossed that line, but youre spamming half the comments section with your commentary.
Posted by: Massinissa | Nov 19 2015 19:21 utc | 28
The Double Identity of an “Anti-Semitic”: Smearing a Progressive Website to Support Israel . (ht Oui)
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 19 2015 19:26 utc | 29
All statements are factual –
all individuals bar al Baghdadi and Headley can be definitively and correctly identified as Jewish
All individuals identified as Jewish have also been caught pretending to be “Moslem Terrorists”
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Like all Zionist trolls you ignore the content and attack the messenger. Like all Zionist trolls you are desperate to distract people from the content
Posted by: Cryptos | Nov 19 2015 19:28 utc | 30
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/18/turkey-cut-islamic-state-supply-lines-erdogan-isis
How could Isis be eliminated? In the region, everyone knows.
All it would really take would be to unleash the largely Kurdish forces of the YPG (Democratic Union party) in Syria, and PKK (Kurdistan Workers party) guerillas in Iraq and Turkey. These are, currently, the main forces actually fighting Isis on the ground. They have proved extraordinarily militarily effective and oppose every aspect of Isis’s reactionary ideology. But instead, YPG-controlled territory in Syria finds itself placed under a total embargo by Turkey, and PKK forces are under continual bombardment by the Turkish air force. Not only has Erdoan done almost everything he can to cripple the forces actually fighting Isis; there is considerable evidence that his government has been at least tacitly aiding Isis itself. It might seem outrageous to suggest that a Nato member like Turkey would in any way support an organisation that murders western civilians in cold blood.
That would be like a Nato member supporting al-Qaida. But in fact there is reason to believe that Erdoan s government does support the Syrian branch of al-Qaida (Jabhat al-Nusra) too, along with any number of other rebel groups that share its conservative Islamist ideology.
Posted by: okie farmer | Nov 19 2015 19:36 utc | 31
@28 & 29
I’ve read all of Cryptos’ comments and have yet to see any of this “Anti-Semitismus” that you claim exists.
Until either of you two can substantiate your claims of AS then I think it is best to consider you both as Cryptos does – “Zionist Trolls” trying to distract people with false claims of AS
Posted by: Anon | Nov 19 2015 19:38 utc | 32
Cryptos – yer 7 for 32 so far.. how many more posts are you going to leave on jews/zionists and etc?
Posted by: james | Nov 19 2015 19:44 utc | 33
IS rats are leaving the ship…they can smell they are next…
URGENT: ISIL’s Top Commanders Evacuating Syria’s Raqqa, ISIL Changing Capital
TEHRAN (FNA)- The top leaders and commanders of the ISIL terrorist group were seen by locals and citizens to be escaping from the Syrian city of Raqqa after sustaining heavy casualties in the Russian airstrikes and long-range cruise missile attacks from its Mediterranean fleet.
Intelligence sources confirmed citizens’ reports on Thursday that militants’ leaders are fleeing the so-called capital of the ISIL terrorist group after hundreds of ISIL members escaped the city on Wednesday to save their lives.
Various sources from citizens of Raqqa to local villagers and intelligence sources have reported in the last 24 hours that the terrorist group has started hasty evacuation of Raqqa after the Russian strikers and long-range bombers intensifying airstrikes on the strongholds and command centers of the ISIL militants in Raqqa in recent days.
The Russian military has also been pounding the ISIL stronghold in Raqqa with cruise missiles fired from the Mediterranean Sea since Tuesday.
Meantime, reports disclosed on Wednesday that the ISIL terrorists retreated from the Southern parts of Hasakah province, located North of Raqq, as Syrian army and popular forces, backed by Russian and Syrian airstrikes, continue to strike heavy blows at the militants […]
Posted by: Lone Wolf | Nov 19 2015 19:59 utc | 34
Further to my comment at 32, I decided to do a little digging.
Found this from May 2015, at the L.A. Times, published by Jewish real estate entrepreneur Sam Zell’s Tribune Publishing group.
Perhaps Mr Zell is also an “Anti-Semite” for publishing both the story and the headline?
Adam Gadahn: Al Qaeda terrorist, California native and grandson of a Jew.
Which seems to comfirm everything Cryptos’ comment said about Mr Pearlman – He was the Grandson of an ADL board Member, he was Jewish, he was an “Al Qaida Terrorist”, he did claim to have converted to Islam.
Seems to me that Crytos’ comments regarding Adam Pearlman are correct and those here that are making accusations of “Anti-Semitism” are probably doing so because they cannot find anything factual with which to disagree or dispute, so they opt for smears and innuendo instead.
How very Zionist of them. 🙂 – Former Israeli Minister Shulamit Aloni; “Anti-semitic” accusations? , “its a trick, we always use it”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUGVPBO9_cA
Posted by: Anon | Nov 19 2015 20:04 utc | 35
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-l-phillips/research-paper-isis-turke_b_6128950.html
Turkey Provides Military Equipment to ISIS
Turkey Provided Transport and Logistical Assistance to ISIS Fighters
Turkey Offers Medical Care to ISIS Fighters
Turkey Offers Medical Care to ISIS Fighters
Turkey Supports ISIS Financially Through Purchase of Oil
Turkey Assists ISIS Recruitment
Turkish Forces Are Fighting Alongside ISIS
Turkey Helped ISIS in Battle for Kobani
Turkey and ISIS Share a Worldview
Posted by: okie farmer | Nov 19 2015 20:04 utc | 36
Curious to investigate, American Citizens would be afraid to click on those scary websites for fear of becoming disappeared by their own government. One wonders how long those sites have been up and how long they will continue to be up.
Seems the US GWOT Homeland Security Team would pounce on them post haste, arrest the perps and shut them down.
Yet is has been inferred that these nasty websites have been running for some time without interference from US Authorities.
Perhaps they are a government sponsored sting operation to lure hapless dopes for persecution. The giant GWOT Homeland Apparatus justifies their paychecks in this manner.
They still love to infiltrate Quaker Meetings and such, no doubt.
Posted by: fast freddy | Nov 19 2015 20:04 utc | 37
Cryptos – yer 7 for 32 so far.. how many more posts are you going to leave on jews/zionists and etc?
Posted by: james | Nov 19, 2015 2:44:41 PM | 33
People here are claiming that AQ are all Saudis, and ISIS all “Moslem Terrorists”
I disagreed and, not only that, provided several pieces of evidence that many alleged “Moslem Terrorists” are in fact Jewish.
This is the first time online anyone has ever tried to attack me for providing evidence for claims I make
Like the people at 28 and 29 the mere existence of this information/evidence seems to bother you greatly
I wonder why that is
Posted by: Cryptos | Nov 19 2015 20:12 utc | 39
Problem with Cryptos is that he’s turning MoA into a DEBKAfile.
Posted by: Lone Wolf | Nov 19 2015 20:15 utc | 40
“IS rats are leaving the ship…they can smell they are next…
URGENT: ISIL’s Top Commanders Evacuating Syria’s Raqqa, ISIL Changing Capital”
Posted by: Lone Wolf | Nov 19, 2015 2:59:26 PM | 34
Off back home to Tel Aviv no doubt, for a little R n’R
Posted by: Anon | Nov 19 2015 20:17 utc | 41
The differences between antisemitism and antizionism get blurred sometimes, largely due to hazbara (Israeli propaganda) equating antizionists with rightwing antisemitism. “If you don’t like Israeli policy you must be a Nazi” type bullshit. This, in turn, causes blowback among the more educated, whose reaction seems to be, a lot of the time, “if you think I’m a Nazi, take a closer look at your entire national policy”, thus equating Israelis (most of whome are Jewish) with rightwing extremism.
It seems to be a touchy subject for a lot of “progressives”… But its all just namecalling bollocks. Most Jews probably don’t give a shit… Like most people everywhere. Antisemitism sucks. Antizionism, on the other hand, is vital to this worlds healthy future…
There is a lot to be said for powers of discrimination…
Posted by: Dan | Nov 19 2015 20:44 utc | 42
I think Cryptos comments raise very relevant questions. Questions which are largely ignored.
There are examples of Zionists that have acted to gain sympathy on the Left by hyping antisemitism; and others where Zionists (both Christian and Jewish Zionists) have hyped the terrorist threat into a ‘Clash of Civilizations’.
In each of these, Zionists skirt critical issues and inconvenient truths like Palestine and KSA support for extremists.
Oligarchs act in much the same way, contributing to all political parties that might further their agenda.
The nexus between fundamentalists (Jewish, Christian, and Islamic) and oligarchs is the fundamental problem of our age. Civil Society is being torn apart.
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 19 2015 21:02 utc | 43
The Russian air forces in Syria have switched to 24 hour a day operations, and to ‘free hunting’ for oil tankers.
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201511191724-sa0c.htm
There a 4 aircrew per aircraft, allowing for 24 hour bombing.
http://www.russiadefence.net/t4693p75-russian-military-involvement-and-aid-to-syria-5#135735
Putin placed 40 oil dealers in the crosshairs. Not surprisongly, at least one of them is Turkish – Bilal Erdogan, the son of wannabe “Sultan” Erdogan, controller of a Turkish shipping company BMZ used to smuggle Daesh oil.
“At a minimum, this violates UN Security Council resolution 2170. Under the light of Putin’s message of going after anyone or any entity engaged in facilitating Daesh’s operations, Erdogan’s clan better come up with some really good excuses.”
http://russia-insider.com/en/fight-against-isis-russia-aint-taking-no-prisoners/ri11296
Posted by: Yonatan | Nov 19 2015 21:07 utc | 44
ISIS FINALLY UNMASKED!
I think I figured it out! ISIS is really just a PRIVATE ARMY hired by the rich would-be kings, or nominal kings, such as the Saudis.
Their biggest problem is that they must hide the fact of their true status as a private army.
They accomplish this by simply pretending to be a fanatical religious army.
Private enterprises do not literally chop peoples heads off or bomb airliners. But fanatical religious movements sometimes do.
I think that this is how they conceal their private army status.
Posted by: blues | Nov 19 2015 21:28 utc | 45
Update on fronts near Queires airbase and south of Aleppo.
Posted by: Thirdeye | Nov 19 2015 21:31 utc | 46
Pictures of ISIS terrorists typically appear to be staged. Also, the parts of the faces which can be seen give the appearance of white men. One recent photo shows a man with a prosthetic leg. Now they’re leaving the war zone. How convenient. Never were scaredy cats before “Putie” started whacking them a bit. Speaking of cats, Rita Katz and SITE group is a fraud. She is directly connected with the clandestine agencies and on the payroll of the US government.
Posted by: fast freddy | Nov 19 2015 21:33 utc | 47
@blues 45 completely agree. But, add in all the help from NATO and USA that has been given to rebels in the name of regime change.
No one that is part of this private army wants to disclose who is providing the weapons, money and direction. Huge secret.
Posted by: shadyl | Nov 19 2015 21:34 utc | 48
Cryptos’ posts show an interesting sidelight on anti-Muslim psywar efforts, both by Israeli professionals and amateur hacks.
Posted by: Thirdeye | Nov 19 2015 21:43 utc | 49
http://democracynow.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=7c55dbbfa32e541749065a92a&id=e668ac2dce&e=013a812223
Glenn Greenwald on “Submissive” Media’s Drumbeat for War and “Despicable” Anti-Muslim Scapegoating
Posted by: okie farmer | Nov 19 2015 21:54 utc | 50
I have been waiting for an open thread to clarify the details around the battle going on with China and the IMF. I stated in a few comments about how the US Congress was going to keep China from becoming part of the IMF SDR formula. What I was not clear on was how exactly that was.
In 2010 the IMF, under substantial global pressure, came up with a set of reforms that would include China in the SDR formula and a bunch of other equalizing sorts of things. The US holds a lock on the IMF approval of those reforms with its voting percentage of 16.74 and a requirement for passage of the reforms set at 85%. In spite of the coming recommendation of the full IMF board on China’s currency being included in the SDR formula on November 30, there is, IMO, a negative chance of the IMF reforms passing Congress anytime soon.
That given is why I keep harping on about how China has the AIIB and is setting up alternative “backoffice” international finance technology and REAL SOON NOW, the world will call for a Bretton Woods meeting and the US dollar will stop being the Reserve Currency.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 19 2015 22:11 utc | 51
Just so you know, you’ll see them on twitter, “CONFLICT NEWS” is a Rita Katz SITE Group disinformation media source.
Not much can be done about white supremacy, bigotry, xenophobia and hatred of brown ppl. Fox News is the most trusted news source. Murdoch recently bought Nat’l Geographic. Not a terrible loss considering that it was co-opted by the CIA anyway.
Posted by: fast freddy | Nov 19 2015 22:16 utc | 52
@blues:
Seymour Hirsh explains the origins in The Redirection (2007):
In the past few months, as the situation in Iraq has deteriorated, the Bush Administration, in both its public diplomacy and its covert operations, has significantly shifted its Middle East strategy.
To undermine Iran, which is predominantly Shiite, the Bush Administration has decided, in effect, to reconfigure its priorities in the Middle East…. A by-product of these activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda.
… clandestine operations have been kept secret, in some cases, by leaving the execution or the funding to the Saudis, or by finding other ways to work around the normal congressional appropriations process, current and former officials close to the Administration said.
The policy shift has brought Saudi Arabia and Israel into a new strategic embrace, largely because both countries see Iran as an existential threat.
Nasr compared the current situation to the period in which Al Qaeda first emerged…. This time, the U.S. government consultant told me, Bandar and other Saudis have assured the White House that “they will keep a very close eye on the religious fundamentalists. Their message to us was ‘We’ve created this movement, and we can control it.’ It’s not that we don’t want the Salafis to throw bombs; it’s who they throw them at—Hezbollah, Moqtada al-Sadr, Iran, and at the Syrians, if they continue to work with Hezbollah and Iran.”
There’s much more in that article (a ‘must read’).
Then consider what Biden said in October 2014 (in answer to a question), as related by CBS:
“… our biggest problem is our allies” who are engaged in a proxy Sunni-Shiite war against Syrian President Bashar Assad. He specifically named Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the UAE.
“What did they do? They poured hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of tons of weapons into anyone who would fight against Assad – except that the people who were being supplied were (Jabhat) al-Nusra and al-Qaida and the extremist elements of jihadis coming from other parts of the world,” he said.
Within days of this truth-telling gaffe, Biden
“… apologized for any implication that Turkey or other allies and partners in the region had intentionally supplied or facilitated the growth of [ISIS] or other violent extremists in Syria.”
But Syrian conflict has also been aided and abetted by other countries that have sought to benefit, including: US, France (arms deals) and Israel (free hand with Palestinians, hopes to annex Golan heights), among others.
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 19 2015 22:30 utc | 53
@Jackrabbit 53, you have now answered my question regarding the recent Israeli/Saudi love feast.
And from wiki:
Qatar is an influential player in the Arab world, supporting several rebel groups during the Arab Spring both financially and through its globally expanding media group, Al Jazeera Media Network.
Posted by: shadyl | Nov 19 2015 22:40 utc | 54
Speaking of Israeli Lovefests, . . .
The Israelis do seem to have quite a Lovefest going with the alleged “Mad Muslim Jihadis” operating just over their North-East Border.
Israeli Military Admits to Supporting Al Qaeda and ISIS in Syria
24 Jul 2015 … The alternative press has noted for months that Israel is supporting [it’s alleged “enemy” ISIS] in Syria. But Israel has consistently denied these allegations … until …
http://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-syrian-rebels-keeping-druze-safe-in-exchange-for-israeli-aid/
29 Jun 2015 … Israeli officials have previously balked at confirming on the record that the …. Israel, unfortunately, is supporting . . . [it’s alleged “enemy”] . . . ISIS.
UN documents reveal Israel’s support for ISIS and al-Qaeda in Syria.
The ISIS Islamic Terrorists are Supported by the US, Israel and …
20 Sep 2015 … “[ISIS headchoopers] would receive support and send the injured in [to Israel] on condition that the Israeli fence area is secured by [it’s alleged “enemy” ISIS]
The alleged “enemy” is to “secure” the border area?
Looks like the Israel/ISIS “lovefest” is a damn sight more incestuous than it might first appear.
Posted by: Anon | Nov 19 2015 23:03 utc | 55
“…US dollar will stop being the Reserve Currency.”
What would this mean exactly, in operational terms?
Posted by: paulmeli | Nov 19 2015 23:20 utc | 56
The Most Important Question About ISIS That Nobody Is Asking
We wonder how long until someone finally asks the all important question regarding the Islamic State: who is the commodity trader breaching every known law of funding terrorism when buying ISIS crude, almost certainly with the tacit approval by various “western alliance” governments, and why is it that these governments have allowed said middleman to continue funding ISIS for as long as it has?
MORE:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-19/most-important-question-about-isis-nobody-asking
Posted by: shadyl | Nov 20 2015 0:07 utc | 57
in re cryptos — I would think the use of the term “ZioNazi” counts as anti-semitic, and I think Massinnissa correct. But it’s right to be outraged — no need to fake Islamist terrorists, plenty of real ones.
What exactly is the argument these factoids are supposed to support? Is it being alleged that all these jihadis are fake?
And is it a new or returning troll?
Posted by: rufus magister | Nov 20 2015 0:10 utc | 58
@51 psycho ‘That given is why I keep harping on about how China has the AIIB and is setting up alternative “backoffice” international finance technology and REAL SOON NOW, the world will call for a Bretton Woods meeting and the US dollar will stop being the Reserve Currency. ‘
China has been conspicuously absent from the ongoing eruption in the Middle East. If you cant beat ’em, join em? Or, as someone posited, have they really been coldly concentrating on their alternative backoffice international financial technology, and is the IMF SDR application their take it or leave choice for the US? Last chance to suit actions to words or we nuke you?
I for one am tired already of rooting for Syrian+4 DD&D to counter US/EU/KSA/GCC/Turkey DD&D. It’s all DD&D in the real world. The financial nuke could put an end to what’s fueling it all, greenbacks. As well – though the financial world would be vaporized by Russia and China acting to unison – its effect on the real world would actually be much less than we have all been led to fear. Certainly for the areas exposed to terrestrial DD&D- which, after Paris, has come to include Europe and perhaps the Western Hemisphere as well. The Chinese dispatched some Da’esh the other day, themselves.
Or is China really at the if you can’t beat ’em join em stage. Someone else guessed that the US would accede to the Yuan in the basket, but superficially so, attaching implementation details that would essentially negate even this half-measure. I guess the decision on 30 November + a few days’ analysis to discover what really went down, and the subsequent Chinese reaction will tell the story. I’m afraid the Pluocrats’ Republic has decided ‘they’ are too heavily invested in Neolibraconia to actually pull the plug. Moving China’s chair to a sunnier spot on the deck of the Titanic will be good enough for them. IBGYBG. That’s the resounding refrain throughout Neolibraconia, from way out west to way out east. Real Plutes are all long of tooth.
We’ll know relatively soon, won’t we? Christmas time, the New Year. Or else we won’t, and things will continue on their death gyre.
Posted by: jfl | Nov 20 2015 0:13 utc | 59
@56 paulmeli
You asked what the implications would be of the US Dollar no longer being the Reserve Currency under the Bretton Woods agreement.
It represents a shift from a world led by global private finance owned by the global plutocrats where we do not really know who the decision makers are to…….who knows, it is not a done deal yet. But it should represent a significant move towards more sovereign financial management and services.
One could say socialist or communist even…..GRIN! I am one who thinks anything would be better than the parasite lock the global plutocrats have on society through private finance currently.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 20 2015 0:20 utc | 61
@59 jfl
I think China is the reason we are not in nuclear war with Russia. China is the semi-silent partner of Russia in the ME situation at this time.
I see this all as a battle over private/sovereign finance. Private finance has been in control for centuries but may be in its denouement phase……hopefully, IMO
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 20 2015 0:42 utc | 62
RT-News has its middle East headquarters located in a hotel in Tel Aviv, Israel… Maybe RY should relocated to Malta, Cyprus or Greece, outside of the zionist war machine’s grip…
Posted by: james k. sayre | Nov 20 2015 0:53 utc | 63
@ paulmeli | Nov 19, 2015 6:20:08 PM | 56
In simplest term it means that you are not going to have a credit cards any more. Or, you will have it but not dozen of them or half dozen, CC will be issued on certain amount and the like, that is you will have to live within your income.
The US doesn’t have a budget, I think, from 2008, imagine that. When you read that Greece must cut budget deficit it will mean that the US will live within its limits aka GDP. It will mean that there will be no 55% tax money spend on military.
All the calamity and mayhem, death and destruction that the US is creating around the world won’t be possible.
http://www.amazon.com/Exorbitant-Privilege-Dollar-International-Monetary/dp/0199931097
https://youtu.be/w–Pv8edD6M
Posted by: Neretva’43 | Nov 20 2015 1:02 utc | 64
ISIS fighters, finally seriously harassed by Russia, will soon retreat to Iraq as Erdogan is closing the northern borders to avoid having them move back to Turkey.
Once they are in Iraq, Russia’s bombing job is over, it would be up to the USA and France ( and the UK?) to continue in Iraq, unless the Iraqi government begs Russia to get in. That would force the USA to get involved even more and … spend more as the Gulf countries will do nothing in Iraq that may re enforce the Shias…
Soon the USA will be entangled in another expensive war in Iraq for a long long time as Clinton or the republicans are in favor or a military involvement against ISIS in Iraq.
Russia and Iran would have succeeded in throwing the USA into a deadly trap.
Posted by: Virgile | Nov 20 2015 1:03 utc | 65
Harry Law @25 There is no “Senator Richard Black” from Va. The US Senators from Virginia are Kaine and Warner.
Posted by: Lefty665 | Nov 20 2015 1:10 utc | 66
Advisory: Don’t feed the troll @58.
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 19, 2015 7:19:59 PM | 60
At the risk of feeding the troll @ 58
To my knowledge the term “ZioNazi” is a version of the term “JudeoNazi” coined by Jewish Israeli polymath Yeshayahu Leibowitz circa 1968, to describe exactly the sort of people accepted back into power just before the Judeo/ZioNazis deliberately and purposefully engineered the 1967 war.
Is this toll @ 58 the same troll who has been laughing, with apparent approval no less, at the plans of one of the most well known and rabid Judeo/ZioNazis in the current extreme Right Wing ZioNazi Gov’t, Mr Naftali Bennett? The same Naftali Bennett who openly conspires and discusses his great plan to steal what little land and water the Palestinians yet posses.
Why, yes, I think it is!
And Is the toll @ 58 not the same troll who has been recently quoting, with apparent approval no less, the words of Ze’ev Jabotinsky, propagandist for the “Young Turks” and regular correspondent of Mr Fascism himself, Il Duce Benito Mussolini?
Why, yes, I think it is!
And all this while claiming to be “a Communist”
If anything I’d say the little ZioNazi Troll @ 58 is determined to give Communists a bad name.
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I personally like the term “ZioNazi” because it gets right up the nose of almost every little racist ZioNazi I ever met, present company NOT excepted, and is a useful tool to flush the little blighter’s out from underneath their many dishonest disguises (present company NOT excepted).
Seems to have worked with the ZioNazi troll @58 anyway.
Posted by: Cryptos | Nov 20 2015 1:12 utc | 67
“ZioNazi” is certainly an apt term for anyone that would react with pleasure to anything Naftali Bennett had to say on the subject of Palestinian land and water rights, and it’s also a very very very apt term for anyone that would quote Jabotinsky with approval
Posted by: Cryptos | Nov 20 2015 1:15 utc | 68
@50 OKf
Thanks for the Intercept-free link to Greenwald, I’m glad to see he’s keeping other avenues of communication open.
Greenwald did a very good job on the MSM ‘expert’ Woolsey, who should be in prison and not on TV. And he pointed out the MSM’s piggy-backing ‘encryption is a crime’ and ‘Snowden is to blame for the Paris massacre’ on top of the testimony of one of the real criminals behind the Paris massacre, a former CIA/USG official. As the reference to the testimony of DIA director Michael Flynn proves.
Certainly Greenwald’s got one of the sharpest eyes around for the cogs and wheels of the MSM putting their message – in this case ‘Muslim guilt’ – over the top of whatever words come out of their prop’s mouths during their ‘interviews’, and he shamed and demolished the two CNN shills for doing just that.
Later in the interview they drag out the ‘our response to terrorism actually increases terrorism’ nugget … by now it’s become apparent to even the slowest among us that this is not an ‘unintended consequence’ but that increasing terrorism is and has been the whole point of our ‘response’ to it.
There was an intersting little table – State Department data – included in an article ISIS Wants to Destroy the ‘Grey Zone’. Here’s How We Defend It linked to here by karlof1, I think, that shows the increase in ‘terrorism’ – the real terrorism is the terrorizing of whole nations and regions in ‘response’ to ‘terrorism’ – since ‘terrorism’ was inaugurated at the WTC on 9/11. The article itself points out the essential unity of the Da’esh and Bush XLI main thrust – with us or against us – the rock on which terrorism is founded.
Greenwald references the rise in Raytheon and other ‘defense’ stocks on Monday the 16th, following Friday the 13th. There’s no doubt left that profits for the MIC are very high on the list of interests driving the GWOT – Great Wager On Terrorism – the US’ Last Best Bet of maintaining primacy in a world in which it no longer wishes to compete on non-financial terms.
Posted by: jfl | Nov 20 2015 1:26 utc | 69
“ZioNazi”, is this means Christian Zionism or Jewish one, or both?
Posted by: Neretva’43 | Nov 20 2015 1:27 utc | 70
“Since September 2015 the owner of Le Bataclan is Lagardere company, one of the world’s media giants. Before that is was owned by Pascal and Joel Laloux and they are both directors of two important French artistic production companies like Alias and Asterios respectively. The brothers after the sales of La Bataclan allegedly emigrated to Israel.
Boston Marathon World Run: an interactive race raising funds for charity Developed by Lagardère Unlimited, the Boston Marathon World Run (BMWR) app is a complete experience for running enthusiasts who can participate virtually in the Boston marathon wherever they are by completing the distances of their choice and sharing them. This digital platform offers runners all over the world the opportunity to join a community that celebrates activity, fitness and healthy living. It includes a feature that enables participants to commit to walking or running a certain distance
In 2014, Lagardère invested in Magma Venture Partners, a venture capital fund specialising in digital technology based in Tel Aviv (Israel). Israel is the fastest-growing country in terms of breakthrough innovation, just behind the United States. Over the last 20 years, a number of leading innovative companies have emerged in Israel in areas such as mobile telecoms, social media, digital advertising platforms and even security. This relates to the dynamism of local entrepreneurs, the presence of numerous R&D centres set up by multinationals, and a structured network for finance innovation. With this investment, alongside other financial investors, Lagardère has established a true partnership with Magma Venture Partners, who will provide their experience as a digital investor while benefiting from the expertise of the Group’s four divisions.”
Posted by: Neretva’43 | Nov 20 2015 1:57 utc | 73
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Independent Digital News and Media Limited (The Independent UK) — Captagon: The tiny amphetamine pill fuelling the Syrian civil war and turning fighters into superhuman soldiers — 11/19/15
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/captagon-the-tiny-amphetamine-pill-fueling-the-syrian-civil-war-and-turning-fighters-into-superhuman-a6740601.html
A tiny, highly addictive pill produced in Syria and now widely available across the Middle East, its illegal sale funnels hundreds of millions of dollars back into the war-torn country’s black-market economy each year, likely giving militias access to new arms, fighters and the ability to keep the conflict boiling, according to the Guardian.
“Syria is a tremendous problem in that it’s a collapsed security sector, because of its porous borders, because of the presence of so many criminal elements and organized networks,” the U.N. Office on Drugs and Crime (UNDOC) regional representative, Masood Karimipour, told Voice of America. “There’s a great deal of trafficking being done of all sorts of illicit goods — guns, drugs, money, people. But what is being manufactured there and who is doing the manufacturing, that’s not something we have visibility into from a distance.”
A powerful amphetamine tablet based on the original synthetic drug known as “fenethylline,” Captagon quickly produces a euphoric intensity in users, allowing Syria’s fighters to stay up for days, killing with a numb, reckless abandon.
“You can’t sleep or even close your eyes, forget about it,” said a Lebanese user, one of three who appeared on camera without their names for a BBC Arabic documentary that aired in September. “And whatever you take to stop it, nothing can stop it.”
“I felt like I own the world high,” another user said. “Like I have power nobody has. A really nice feeling.”
“There was no fear anymore after I took Captagon,” a third man added.
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But — This is no civil war. This is a stealth proxy war. Fought by a private army of mercenaries hopped up on super-speed drugs and big money. And nothing else.
It’s not about religion or culture or any of that. It’s just a big game for sociopathic power junkies. And the whole world of normal people is paying for it. Along with the millions of direct victims.
Posted by: blues | Nov 20 2015 2:27 utc | 74
I have other thoughts about what happens after US Reserve Currency goes away, partially or entirely.
Transition period could go from easy/whimper to nuke war because the global plutocrats didn’t get their way. Either way there will be a gigenormous debt jubilee/amnesty settlement that will establish the groundwork for whatever is next. If private finance does not go away entirely the settlement will be complicated by the “legal” derivative and ownership standing of the global plutocrats and their banks, insurance companies, etc.
Sovereign or sovereign/private global finance should be expected to be much more understandable than the BS myth of capitalism that reality is painfully forced to be viewed as. Hopefully banking will be viewed as a public utility that still controls credit much like now but with all benefits going to the public instead of private bankers and their owners. Management of credit and debt should work much better because of the assumed transparency of public process and not based on greed/maximum profit.
The only other thing left to do is neuter that global rules of inheritance so that none can continue to buy governments. Its establishment of the public commons.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 20 2015 2:42 utc | 75
“Arnauld Lagardere (Lagardere Group, Hechette, Larousse, France Telecom, Vuitton, Lazard, Vivendi Universal… the list is too long) is the new Bataclan owner since 09/11/2015.
The man is connected to Baron Edmond de Rothshild and he’s one of the first Israeli IDF military sponsors, while another Rothshild, Daniel, is one of the IDF heads. Mossad is a IDF division while the largest Lagardere Group stockholders is the Emir of Qatar (the first ISIS sponsor).
So we have a clean connection between a Rothshild agent, Arnauld Lagardere, the terrorist attacks in Paris and ISIS, a CIA/Mossad false flag operation financed by the Gulf regimes money.”
Posted by: Neretva’43 | Nov 20 2015 3:01 utc | 76
And JR, how nice of you to help james by policing his list! You have just the petty, bullying attitude that works so well in that role. Good luck in your new profession of censor!
Posted by: rufus magister | Nov 20 2015 3:24 utc | 79
I guess I don’t care about the grief I will get for posting this link to Bernie Sander’s speech today about what he calls democratic socialism
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/live-bernie-sanders-speaks-democratic
Bernie ain’t perfect but I will take his delusions over any other US presidential contenders. If we don’t have hopium, we are dead.
I sure as hell am not going to post a link to Clinton’s speech today.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 20 2015 3:25 utc | 80
77
Yes, we can all see that you have indeed returned.
Posted by: Mike Czech | Nov 20 2015 3:33 utc | 81
Cryptos, can you stop filling the entire page with Anti-Semitism please.
Theres a difference between anti Zionism and Anti-Semitism, and not only have you crossed that line, but youre spamming half the comments section with your commentary.
Posted by: Massinissa | Nov 19, 2015 2:21:08 PM | 28
Toss out your Hasbara Fictionary, Massinissa, and buy a Goy Dictionary.
Cryptos hasn’t said anything anti-Palestinian.
Quite the reverse, in fact.
Anti-Semitism is what Jews have been doing to semitic Palestinians in Palestine (i.e. stealing their land, destroying/hijacking their businesses, demolishing their homes and killing their children) for 70+ years.
If you ‘forget’ again, I’ll ‘remind’ you again.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 20 2015 3:41 utc | 82
Is this not an open thread? Is not Cryptos information about covert Israeli ploys to shape the image of muslim fundamentalists relevant?
The term antisemitic is pure rubbish. The most antisemitic country in the world is Israel. The word is used purely to still debate and anyone who uses it is automaticaly disqualified in taking part in rational debate.
Zionism is a scourge on mankind.
Posted by: Norwegian Bob | Nov 20 2015 3:45 utc | 83
Lol Hoarsewhisperer #82, you beat me to it. Thanks for elaborating more on the same point i tried to make in regard to what semitism actually implies.
Posted by: Norwegian Bob | Nov 20 2015 3:55 utc | 84
@ 80: No grief from this corner, Thanks for the link. With all his foreign policy warts, right now, he’s the best candidate, IMO.
Posted by: ben | Nov 20 2015 4:11 utc | 85
I collected most – don’t claim to have them all – of Cryptos’ drive-by so that it can be reviewed in more compact form without having to bounce all over MoA. I don’t see it as anti-Semitic or anti-Ashkenazic, but I cannot look into cryptos’ alleged ‘blackheart’. It’s all about highlighting people, mostly/all Jewish, trying their best to blacken the name ‘Muslim’, often Jews impersonating Muslims to do so, with a couple/three bona-fide Israeli false-flags mixed in. A couple are probably off the wall, at least totally undocumented. Calling cryptos’ posts anti-Semitic is inaccurate, in my view. Anti-Zionist OK. Count me in the number of anti-Zionists as well.
Posted by: jfl | Nov 20 2015 4:33 utc | 87
A vote for Sanders is a vote for the souless, nameless, zombie inside the Obama the Black American suit, who’ll zip-out and rezip-in to the Bernie the Jewish Mensch suit. No difference. Same souless imposter inside.
Ralph Nader says Bernie’s chance at redemption comes when he loses the nomination to Clinton … he can then make public demands in return for his endorsement – or just roll-over. See if he doesn’t just roll-over. He’s just warming up Clinton’s audience.
Posted by: jfl | Nov 20 2015 5:08 utc | 88
in re 83 —
I find it interesting that it’s only folks who hate the Jews that use “anti-semitic” in this sense. To apply this criteria, then I think Saudi Arabia and its Gulf allies are the most “anti-semitic” state. ISIL is killing largely Arabs, and of course KSA is intervening in Yemen directly.
Posted by: rufus magister | Nov 20 2015 5:12 utc | 89
http://johnhelmer.net/?p=14441#more-14441
Through the collapse of the international commodity trade and the cutoff of their international financing, the indebtedness of the oligarchs has resulted in their virtual nationalization by the Russian state banks. Individually, oligarchs remain for as long as Putin and the security services judge them to be patriotic and loyal; and on condition they accept their new role as state trustees rather than entrepreneurial capitalists.
[This strengthens the influence of the military General Staff, since the oligarchs are weaker.]
Cronyism in US governance is also maladaptive in the present situation. This is because no American ruler can implement any undertaking he makes, either to friend or foe, so US war gambits cannot be agreed on with allies (as the Afghanistan, Iraq and Libyan wars once were). Nor can negotiated peace settlements with rivals or adversaries be stable.
[The inability of cronyism to rule outcomes as it once did in the US, has now been undermined by the volatility of factional strife.]
Posted by: Penelope | Nov 20 2015 5:35 utc | 90
So we have a clean connection between a Rothshild agent, Arnauld Lagardere, the terrorist attacks in Paris and ISIS, a CIA/Mossad false flag operation financed by the Gulf regimes money.”
Posted by: Neretva’43 | Nov 19, 2015 10:01:41 PM | 76
Surely, if I were a financial mogul orchestrating a black flag operation, I would make it damn sure that it would result in a massacre in one of my properties. Logical! Or not so much. First, it does not explain attacks of cafes and restaurants with no Rothschild connections, and more importantly, why I would prefer to have a massacre on my own premises?
Actually, one should think (in itself, a good idea) starting from “cui bono”? The massacres benefit ISIS most. Why? A movement like that lives by attracting supporters and allegiance, and what is that it can offer? Basically
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Baddest
Urban Dictionary
Baddest. Toughest, coolest. Always used complimentary, unless used by someone who has poor grammar and does not know that the superlative form of “bad” …
Everybody knows a strange attraction of “being bad”, “being a rebel” and so on. Or the attraction to the most crazy guy on the block. Not shared by everyone, but not too look too far, check the status of GOP primaries in USA. Chockfull of strategists.
The top guy quickly rolled out his post-Paris ideas: close problematic mosques, require everyone to carry an ID indicating religion (so atheists would be inspected at bus station with utmost diligence, I presume). The second most popular contender apparently had a wise idea that USA should have some allies, but he could not propose any. The third most popular candidate, having a distinction of being the most sane (unlike with the other among top four, it takes few minutes to figure out that he is deranged), put his ideas in writing, and he clearly learned from expert advise (one of the scourges over here, the choice between think tankers and ISIS is not an obvious one). Rubio’s idea number one:
“When I am president, what I will do to defeat ISIL is very simple: whatever it takes.”
Sadly, Rubio stays firmly inside think-tank envelope and his ideas do not offer anything new. The start is low key — stop the refugees etc. Then the good oldie “I would build a multinational coalition of countries willing to send troops into Iraq and Syria to aid local forces on the ground. When I am president, I will tell my commanders that the mission is the total destruction of ISIL and will send them the forces necessary to succeed.” Before, under G.W. Bush, no such clever instructions were given, so it would be a much needed novelty. But what about that tried and failed concept of “coalition of the willing”? You scrounge a company from Lithuania, a battalion from Poland, few regiments from United Kingdom. Then those bastards have elections and a new government is unwilling.
When I, Piotr Berman, am a president, I would make a coalition of unwilling. All countries participating in maritime trade would have their cargoes sized unless they would cooperate — if nobody would cooperate, the piracy would turn our budget to surplus, so not a total loss! The cooperating countries would have to contribute troops in proportion to their population: USA contributes 100,000, so Pakistan has to contribute 50,000, and similar contingents from Indonesia and Bangladesh, China and India would have to send 300,000 each, pretty soon we are talking about 1,000,000. This approach does not touch countries with no sea access, but that it beats the coalition of the willing.
P.S. Can a native speaker help me with the understanding of “When I am a president…”? Does it refer to a certain future, somewhat possible future, hypothetical but not preposterous future? I guess, for myself I should write “If I were a President”, indicating the f…g way possible.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/11/rubio-isil-strategy-213377#ixzz3s0wVlthv
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 20 2015 7:46 utc | 91
Lefty665, @66 it should be State Senator Richard Black. Presumably he does not hold his position by virtue of the golem-handlers, and is thus free to speak his mind.
Posted by: Ivan | Nov 20 2015 7:47 utc | 92
Posted by: Neretva’43 | Nov 19, 2015 10:01:41 PM | 76
All this, and Hollande’s war metapher, just to forget the fact that French and Belgian citizens went to Syria to terrorize the civilian population there and returned to do the same in their own countries.
Posted by: somebody | Nov 20 2015 8:20 utc | 93
Piotr Berman @90,
In political/business speech, it’s intended to demonstrate confidence and a readiness to perform. You could consider it an aspirational future.
Posted by: Jonathan | Nov 20 2015 8:44 utc | 94
French TV M6 reports that a group of ten people who came in 3 cars with Belgian immatriculation came to “clean” the appartment of the girl’s mother in Aulnay Sous Bois 24 hours before the police came.
This would mean the girl’s phone had been bugged while the mother was not under watch? Everything is possible with the French police, but that bad?
Posted by: Mina | Nov 20 2015 9:02 utc | 95
Posted by: Mina | Nov 20, 2015 4:02:33 AM | 94
There was a time when French media romantizised Syrian “rebels”, it was clear PR to join. Even then it was clear that this war was taken out on civilians (like every modern war) and the sectarian undertones could not be missed.
This book came out this year.
French President Francois Hollande admitted to delivering weapons to Syrian rebels in 2012 despite an embargo, according to a new book coming out in France this month.
“We began when we were certain they would end up in the right hands. For the lethal weapons it was our services who delivered them,” Hollande told author Xavier Panon in an interview in May last year.
The book by the journalist specializing in diplomatic and military issues, is entitled “In the corridors of French diplomacy.”
Panon wrote that France delivered canons, machine guns, rocket launchers and anti-tank missiles to the rebels fighting Bashar Al-Assad’s regime in an uprising that has turned into all-out civil war and drawn in thousands of foreign jihadists.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights says over 200,000 people have been killed in the fighting.
Panon said the weapons delivered in the second half of 2012 were aimed at aiding the rebellion as opposed to having a decisive effect on changing the course of the conflict.
This at a time, when it was clear to Washington that “the Salafists, the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda in Iraq are the driving forces of the rebellion in Syria”
France in that period would have done zero to prevent the recruitment of Arab speaking youth in the banlieues. They would have tried to use them to control events in Syria.
“Cleaning” the flat of the mother sounds very professional. No “cell” would be interested in doing that. My bet it would be secret service work.
The cui bono of the attack is very clear and it goes against the ideological blinders of most people commenting on this website.
Russia entering the Syrian war decisively has changed the calculus of Iraqi Ex-Baathists for sure.
From November 2014
For example, recently there have been rumours about high level defections inside IS, persuaded to leave by anti-IS individuals who infiltrated the group. Using logic, money and promises of protection, the infiltrators apparently persuaded the defectors that it would be in their best interests to leave. Many analysts have already explained that, although former Baath party members share a common ambition with IS – to restore Sunni rule in Iraq – they also have some big ideological differences.
And while it’s hard to know exactly who the defectors, or the infiltrators, were, many believe that a recent statement issued by Baghdadi saying recruitment should be conducted more slowly and carefully was the direct result of the recent defections.
Posted by: somebody | Nov 20 2015 9:44 utc | 96
@95 someone
The ‘Iraqi ex-baathists’ enjoyed the the aid and funding of which three-letter agency and its pals in which littoral mediterranean country who both viewed the IQxBs as their antidote to their common shia/iranian problem? I think most people commenting on this site can answer that question. The Baathists just had tired blood, needed some geritol, provided by their new found young friends in three-letter’s prison. Now the KSA is providing geritol to all, gratis, 24/7. Comes with the job. Every day is a good day to die.
Posted by: jfl | Nov 20 2015 10:07 utc | 97
the girl is the cousin, the one who blew a suicide jacket off
Posted by: Mina | Nov 20 2015 10:54 utc | 100