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Islamic State Plane Attack Claim Could Be Helpful
Today a Russian civil airliner came down over the Sinai peninsula. All 224 on board of the Airbus A-320 were killed. The Islamic State in Sinai claims to have "brought down" the plane.
That is unlikely. According to flight radar data the plane was flying at 30,000 feet when whatever happened occurred. IS in Sinai has anti-air weapons but those reach no higher than 10,000 feet. It is in principle possible that IS infiltrated the airport at the Egyptian tourist resort Sharm el-Sheikh where the plane was was coming from and smuggled someone on board. But it is unlikely. The usual travel arrangements for Sharm el-Sheikh are group travels where anyone not belonging to a group would be suspicious. Security at Sharm el-Sheikh is usually tight. There is also a report that preliminary investigations point to a technical failure.
But IS claimed responsibility and the fact that it did can be used. How about a salvo of cruise missile on "IS targets" in Syria and Iraq? No one could really complain now if some of those cruise missiles hit IS … or something else …
But whatever. That IS claims to have taken down an airliner shows that it has intent to do such. That is then the end of stupid arguments to work with IS or to let it live and prosper. The claim will also the end to any attempt to give serious air defense weapons to "insurgents" in Syria. The weapons could easily end up in al-Qaeda or IS hands and it is now clear what they would be doing with them.
Syria. Broad topic stretched to anything is now the norm (I disaprove, but so what. I mean the MSM is full of drama and flash news, there are multiple sites to post that stuff, imho it is better to stick to one topic, such as this air crash, to actually get somewhere in a discussion.)
View: Obama is a white knight in disguise and resisting the neo-cons ’n libs. (If he is now ‘doing the right thing’ for his legacy is immaterial.) Can be correct, in the sense of Obama as a repository for various cross-forces, and having no other role than to compose, stabilize, temporise, compromise – like the committee man he is. Or just the CEO of USA-inc, the confused, stumbling, public face.
Or, which is probably closer to the truth as I see it, a ‘leader’ who is obliged to ‘let down’ part of the US political sphere and public thru a forced reality check, i.e. the waning of Pax Americana. Radicals (McCain, Hillary, etc.) have louder voices (as per usual in the ‘opposition’) but they have less power and are struggling.
Or false, in the sense that he is 100% on the aggro US side but needs to appear ‘respectable’ to others on the international scene, while perpetuatin’ myths to the US public (US fights IS etc.)
We cannot know his motivations, and they probably don’t count for much. He probably doesn’t know how to handle them whatever they are, himself.
The Vienna declaration re. Syria – while it has no impact on the ground, kinda, for now, empty diplomacy (read fights between different parties) – makes large concessions to Russia and Iran and so is significant in that sense. (Syria as unitary, S. Gvmt. to be decided by Syrians, elections)
http://eeas.europa.eu/statements-eeas/2015/151030_06.htm
Article 6 is the crux: Da’esh, and other terrorist groups, as designated by the U.N. Security Council, and further, as agreed by the participants, must be defeated. Which throws the definition of ‘terrorist groups’ (various proxies) to another level, UN, where other power-struggles and rules are at play.
Demian, i never said Ukr. were sorry, of course they are not. Cf. from the Dutch, yikes. The messages, about the crash of the Russian-filled plane in the Sinai, shown there say ‘yeah great’, ‘i love it’, ‘revenge…’, ‘find it fun’ is repeated over and over, ‘let them rot in hell’, all against Russia, as these twitterers, i suppose, accept that Russia BUK-ed MH17.
http://russia-insider.com/en/i-am-ashamed-be-dutch/ri10880
Posted by: Noirette | Nov 1 2015 15:22 utc | 81
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